**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 14 02:59:57 2005 Nov 14 03:01:18 hi hrw|work Nov 14 03:04:10 hi dirk, greentux Nov 14 03:05:07 RP: morning, usually your patches are in the repository? when i use machine=borzoi they will be included? Nov 14 03:05:23 hi richard Nov 14 03:18:41 RP: do you have 2.6.15-rc1 running? Nov 14 03:21:02 greentux: they will Nov 14 03:21:55 hrw|work: ok a start with building a simple "nano" :) perhaps, i have a working wpa_supplicant in the evening... Nov 14 03:24:18 greentux: what was a problem with wpa_supplicant? Nov 14 03:25:06 hrw|work: the latest stable doesnt work with with 2.6.14 wireless extensions... there are many changes Nov 14 03:25:30 ok Nov 14 03:25:50 hrw|work: i talked with the author and he recommend to use latest devel. so i will check that asap Nov 14 03:31:51 hi lardman Nov 14 03:48:02 * obergix[work] is away: I'm busy Nov 14 03:51:00 do13: do you read the 2.5.15-rc1 changelog? Nov 14 03:51:45 hi hrw|work Nov 14 03:52:38 greentux: which part of the changelog? Nov 14 03:53:52 do13: the "grep purdie changelog" part :) i think he has 2.6.15-r1 running ... Nov 14 03:55:10 do13: Yes, I've had 2.6.15-rc1 running on spitz Nov 14 03:55:55 RP: could you send me the bb- file Nov 14 03:56:08 RP: I need to update my patches Nov 14 03:56:18 do13: If you're trying for it on tosa, you'll probably need the revert-bootmem patch which I've not updated yet Nov 14 03:57:57 RP: Yep, this patch doesn't apply (and a few others) Nov 14 04:00:12 do13: I'm still working on a .bb file which sorts all the problems. This isn't an easy rediff... Nov 14 04:01:28 OT: dejavu fonts version 2.0 going into OE Nov 14 04:04:51 in moments like this I feel that source archive would be useful (currently _pliki/oe/files/ dir takes 76M) Nov 14 04:10:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7ba18936... 10/: DejaVu fonts: updated to version 2.0 (both TrueType and QPF versions) Nov 14 04:11:15 do13: I'll have an updated .bb for you shortly (with several patches missing) Nov 14 04:11:49 <_law_> any ideas why gpsdrive doesnt build? http://pastebin.com/428854 Nov 14 04:14:20 RP: thanks Nov 14 04:17:02 _law_: are the assembler instructions def for ARM? Nov 14 04:17:27 <_law_> lardman|work, how can i check this? Nov 14 04:18:04 _law_: no idea, but this seems to be a likely source of the error Nov 14 04:18:36 _law_: fldcw assembler instructions looks like x86 code Nov 14 04:18:48 do13: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/linux-openzaurus_2.6.14+2.6.15-rc1-git2.bb Nov 14 04:18:51 some bozo but /usr/include in the -I path for gpsdrive Nov 14 04:18:56 s/but/put/ Nov 14 04:19:25 do13: I'm not touched the ipaq code or the bootmem patch yet but I will sort them. You should be able to rediff against what's there... Nov 14 04:19:48 RP: thanks. I'll look into this. Nov 14 04:22:15 do13: I removed the tosa patches I knew had been merged, I've put the others into the tosa section until you can sort out what's needed and rediff them Nov 14 04:23:19 RP: I'am working on this. Nov 14 04:31:07 <_law_> koen, so this is only a problem with the .bb file? Nov 14 04:31:22 _law_: no, with the developers Nov 14 04:37:26 koen: I plan to push directly to oz354fam083 branch two things: kdepimpi 2.2.5 (qte only) and dejavu fonts 2.0 Nov 14 04:38:07 hrw|work: go ahead Nov 14 04:38:19 hrw|work: you can push (tested) opie updates too if you want Nov 14 04:38:44 koen: sure - but first things which cannot be done via #350 Nov 14 04:39:34 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6f7e5a3e... 10/: Nov 14 04:39:34 xserver kdrive 20050207: sync with .dev Nov 14 04:39:34 * add faster rotated patch for devices where fb orientation does not match screen rotation Nov 14 04:39:34 * apply apm hack to some more machines Nov 14 04:40:09 are the 2.6 cxxxx images built from .dev or from the branch? Nov 14 04:41:49 koen: yes Nov 14 04:42:03 ? Nov 14 04:42:10 koen: no other choice as the support is missing in the release branch Nov 14 04:42:34 koen: I need to talk to mickeyl about it... Nov 14 04:43:24 (That's yes, they're built from the .dev branch in case anyone is confused - I am :) Nov 14 04:46:55 monotone: 313.2 k | 101.0 k | 388 | 77 | 1 Nov 14 04:47:03 * koen gets a large cup of coffee Nov 14 04:47:35 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rba703e26... 10/: DejaVu fonts: updated to version 2.0 (both TrueType and QPF versions) Nov 14 04:48:04 RP: I asked because of #458 Nov 14 04:50:20 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ree5e53fb... 10/: kdepimpi: updated to 2.2.5 (current stable) Nov 14 05:07:10 koen: There was a spitz 2.6 image released from the release branch but its probably missing the xserver apm patch. The spitz kernel in .dev is much improved Nov 14 05:08:36 RP: I just updated kdrive in the branch Nov 14 05:25:22 hrw|meeting: tried bluetooth, but doenst work. if you are back we can tolk about that Nov 14 05:43:33 <_law_> koen, removed -I/usr/include http://pastebin.com/428903 Nov 14 05:47:16 _law_: looks like a missing #include "something.h" Nov 14 05:47:25 gpsdrive cvs is a *huge* mess Nov 14 05:47:49 wpa_supplicant latest devel works very well! Nov 14 05:48:04 version 0.4.6 Nov 14 05:52:14 do13: revert_bootmem-r2.patch now works Nov 14 05:56:57 wpa2 (AES) also working. with d-link card Nov 14 05:57:25 greentux_alt: which driver? hostap? Nov 14 05:57:28 RP: thanks Nov 14 05:58:12 greentux: which driver? hostap? Nov 14 05:58:20 schurig: yes hostap Nov 14 06:00:08 greentux_alt: I've WPA-PSK running with some HERMES2 based chip, but the driver from Agere sucks and is basically unmaintained. Need to look for a better card. Nov 14 06:00:14 greentux_alt: which D-Link are you using? Nov 14 06:00:58 schurig:dcf-66w Nov 14 06:01:34 schurig: dcf-660w Nov 14 06:18:39 n #elinux Nov 14 06:22:02 schurig. which one do u have? Nov 14 06:22:17 Artem CC CF b H2 STD Nov 14 06:22:31 greentux: don't use this Artem card ! :-) Nov 14 06:22:39 d-link is available at trisoft f.e. Nov 14 06:22:59 du u have a bluetooth card? Nov 14 06:23:10 greentux: no, this is a CF one Nov 14 06:23:29 greentux: in one of my devices I have a Bluetooth module built in, at a serial port Nov 14 06:23:46 which device u are using? Nov 14 06:24:10 greentux: the one with Bluetooth is called "MNCI Ramses", but currently I work on something smaller Nov 14 06:24:23 greentux: http://www.holgerschurig.de/ramses.html Nov 14 06:27:03 something todo with kernel concepts? Nov 14 06:27:37 greentux: no, not really. I've seen Florian once or twice, that's all Nov 14 06:28:17 greentux: at some exhibition or Linuxtag, don't know it any more :-) Nov 14 06:29:06 my current device is just for mobile telnet usage, so it has only PXA, 32 MB Flash, 64 MB SDRAM, WLAN, keyboard, barcode scanner. But being the newer device, it's based on Linux 2.6 :-) Nov 14 06:30:18 makes it much cheaper, but less versatile. It's also smaller and weights less. Nov 14 06:30:54 and my operation time with one fully charged accu is now about 8 hours (one work shift) Nov 14 06:30:55 schurig: mnci-rx also linux supported? Nov 14 06:31:15 greentux: sure, only Linux supported. it's on the web site I posted. Nov 14 06:31:41 greentux: "Software offerings:" ... "Linux kernel (version 2.4.2x)" ... "Any customer can get all of this (and more) in source code." :-) Nov 14 06:49:59 morning Nov 14 07:04:26 re Nov 14 07:06:53 is a bootloader available for oz? so i can decide which kernel to boot? Nov 14 07:07:59 no, the bootloader is closed source and practically irreplacable Nov 14 07:08:22 ok, so i can try the new build kernel, if not working -> reflash? Nov 14 07:08:34 yes Nov 14 07:08:44 the sharp loader has a rescue kernel in flash Nov 14 07:09:04 how to activate? b+d keys? Nov 14 07:09:23 standard reflash method Nov 14 07:09:40 no idea which on that is on a borzoi Nov 14 07:10:03 ok, understand. Nov 14 07:28:05 RP: Pavel will get tcx3106 connector - have someone who will make serial cable for him. Nov 14 07:35:17 hrw|work: That's good news. He's our best chance of Collie support :) Nov 14 07:35:48 now I have to dig out all that 'howto make serial cable' ;) Nov 14 07:36:13 I made one and dont plan to make more (cwiis got it) Nov 14 07:36:40 hrw|work: You have one yourself as well? Nov 14 07:37:05 RP: no - plan to make one but with my shaking hands and tiny of connector I gave up Nov 14 07:37:30 hrw|work: :-( Nov 14 07:38:55 RP: maybe now when I have to send one to Pavel I will take care and send few to friend which will solder it for me Nov 14 07:39:21 RP: do you know who should get serial cable too? Nov 14 07:40:26 hrw|work: Good question. I'm not really aware of anyone else who really needs one... Nov 14 07:40:53 I'm annoyed with my erial lead as it only works one way on spitz :-/ Nov 14 07:41:52 Pavel = collie (will get), John Lenz = collie/poodle (mia), c7x0 = RP (have), cxx00 = RP (have), tosa = Dirk (have) Nov 14 07:41:59 did I miss something? Nov 14 07:42:04 or someone? Nov 14 07:42:32 RP: iirc zecke got tosa to help with kernel porting.. I dont know does he has serial cable or not. Nov 14 07:43:02 hrw|work: No, I think that sums it up (mickely will have one I guess?). Yes, zecke might be useful - depends what he plans to do with tosa... Nov 14 07:43:29 iirc mickeyl have one Nov 14 07:43:49 RP: Maybe we have some fun with the JTAG pins on the connector :) Nov 14 07:44:39 do13: I've often wondered about that :) Nov 14 07:46:37 RP: spitz -> pc works, pc -> spitz not? Nov 14 07:47:17 hrw|work: correct - the voltage levels are all wrong Nov 14 07:47:36 RP: you have simple wires only? Nov 14 07:47:52 RP: which cable do you have? sharp or serialio Nov 14 07:47:55 hrw|work: I need to run some tests on my lead - I'm not sure if it has resistors built into it or not Nov 14 07:47:59 Its a serialio Nov 14 07:48:03 ah.. Nov 14 07:49:16 If it has no resistors, I'll build a level convertor... Nov 14 07:50:40 RP: max232? Nov 14 07:51:34 hrw|work: I think that was 5V and I'll need 3.3V but something like that, yes Nov 14 07:51:43 rp: where to get pxa_serial_hack? Nov 14 07:51:46 I'm trying to build a bb file for some local sw that uses autotools Nov 14 07:52:00 but I keep getting the message nothing to configure. Nov 14 07:52:18 Crofton|laptop: check does "S" is correct set Nov 14 07:52:18 rp: i need the fileressources from your bb file... Nov 14 07:52:33 doh Nov 14 07:52:54 greentux: Those file:// patches are included in OE Nov 14 07:53:24 thanks, senior moment .... Nov 14 07:53:47 rp:i tried the 2.6.14-git3 for your 2.6.15.bb, but serial patch failed... Nov 14 07:54:30 greentux: Don't use the 2.6.15.bb file yet. That was just for Dirk's benefit Nov 14 07:55:13 rp: ok trying 2.6.14... Nov 14 08:34:45 ~curse mc authors Nov 14 08:34:47 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, mc authors ! Nov 14 08:48:17 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r34e46884... 10/: wpa-supplicant: Add missing patch to versions 0.3.6 and 0.3.8 Nov 14 08:48:21 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0755e18c... 10/: Nov 14 08:48:22 gdb 6.3: Add hack to remove references to arm mapping symbols. These are used to Nov 14 08:48:22 mark boundaries between arm and thumb code but gdb 6.3 doesn't understand them Nov 14 08:48:22 so having it ignore them is preferable to corrupting the output. Nov 14 08:48:25 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * red5a7cf0... 10/: gcc: Add version 4.0.2. Known to at least compile code on softfloat arm. Nov 14 08:48:30 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r0fa61bea... 10/: pcmcia-cs 3.2.8: gcc4 fixes Nov 14 08:48:33 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r730cfc68... 10/: openswan 2.2.0: gcc4 fixes Nov 14 08:49:57 RP: 4.0.2, cool Nov 14 08:50:14 I thought it might be liked :) Nov 14 08:50:28 no idea if images produced with it work yet mind... Nov 14 08:50:38 the downside is that you're now a toolchain export ;) Nov 14 08:51:09 koen: I was keeping quiet about knowing anything about them... Nov 14 09:00:30 hmmm Nov 14 09:00:37 still no mention of eabi in 4.0.2 Nov 14 09:02:35 hm. I have to meet Gregor and do sd<>cf swapping.. Nov 14 09:02:43 http://www.codesourcery.com/public/gnu_toolchain/arm/2005q3-1/arm-2005q3-1-arm-none-linux-gnueabi.src.tar.bz2 Nov 14 09:02:44 then I can test 4.0.2 image on c760 Nov 14 09:02:46 'only' 101MB Nov 14 09:04:46 What does EABI give in the way of neat stuff btw? Nov 14 09:04:47 koen: you can fetch from cvs Nov 14 09:05:13 Noodles: standardization Nov 14 09:05:35 and it allows you to mix soft and hardfloat binaries (to some extent) Nov 14 09:06:31 Noodles: & softfloat is vfp rather than fpa! (fp internals endianness is the same as the processor endianness) Nov 14 09:08:00 RP: to which softfloat does 4.0.2 default to? fpa? Nov 14 09:09:28 and one important thing: debian plan to move to eabi (iirc) Nov 14 09:10:09 rp: is there a simple way to switch off building of (nobuilding-)openswan in bootstrap image? Nov 14 09:10:21 greentux: edit configs Nov 14 09:10:29 i tried some... Nov 14 09:11:12 rebuilt task-bootstrap? Nov 14 09:13:14 ok, next try tomorrow.a working wpa_supplicant was the task for today :) Nov 14 09:13:43 greentux: got one built? attached it to bugtracker? Nov 14 09:14:36 hrw|work: yes 0.4.6 built and worked perfectly with hostap-driver (other not tested) Nov 14 09:14:53 hrw|work: attach to which bugtracker? (sorry) Nov 14 09:14:59 greentux: look in topic Nov 14 09:15:07 OE has only one bugtracker Nov 14 09:15:52 ok, i wanna try the mailing-list but seemes low traffic Nov 14 09:17:13 ok: i open a bug, attach the .bb file and then? Nov 14 09:17:34 koen: I've never understood why you can't mix certain softfloat and hardfloat binaries anyway... Nov 14 09:17:50 koen: I know I've managed it quite happily on the Zaurus Nov 14 09:19:09 greentux: and then someone will take it, look does it build and add into repo Nov 14 09:19:27 greentux: if it will take more then week then you can complain and pester us to do it Nov 14 09:20:20 ok, so i think you will check all "closed" bugs. well, will do this next days. i have a journey to berlin tomorrow. Nov 14 09:20:48 I had wpa-supplicant building before so I don't mind taking a look at that one. I don't check the bugs system that often though... Nov 14 09:21:20 greentux: rather 'not resolved' ones Nov 14 09:21:46 for example 455 looks easy Nov 14 09:22:52 ok, cu. Nov 14 09:23:04 hrw|work: They didn't say 2.4 or 2.6 though :) Nov 14 09:23:26 (It will be 2.4 given its oz 3.5.3) Nov 14 09:24:05 RP: I read it rather as "in kernel which will be used for release" Nov 14 09:59:15 For reference, the gcc 4.0.2 image booted fine... Nov 14 09:59:28 cool Nov 14 09:59:33 bootstrap? Nov 14 09:59:46 koen: bit more than that - xserver and some apps Nov 14 10:00:17 <_law_> perhabs someone could test gaim with sound enabled with gcc4 Nov 14 10:01:32 _law_: That doesn't quite fit with what I'm doing atm ;-) Nov 14 10:01:47 RP: good news. Nov 14 10:02:12 heh Nov 14 10:02:19 more C++ incompatibility Nov 14 10:02:47 as usual Nov 14 10:02:58 qt/e builds with gcc4 already Nov 14 10:28:56 <_law_> i am not able to install an ipkg (form my cf card) because in my feed there is a newer version :-( any ideas how i can manage this? -force-downgrade doesnt work Nov 14 10:45:12 remove the feed list Nov 14 10:46:30 koen: does familiar split feeds or you have big one? Nov 14 10:47:02 3 feeds Nov 14 10:47:19 base, qte dependant and x11 dependant Nov 14 10:48:07 so qpf fonts (opie/fonts) goes to feed/qte and ttf ones (x11/fonts) into feed/x11 - right? Nov 14 10:49:29 only if the qpf ipkgs have a dependency on qt/e (or something up the tree, like opie) Nov 14 10:50:34 they have SECTION="opie/fonts" and depend only on shell script Nov 14 10:51:01 those will go in to the base feed Nov 14 10:51:24 since the SECTIONs in OE are mostly bogus familiar ignores them Nov 14 10:53:25 aha ok Nov 14 10:53:38 ok. I go home now Nov 14 10:53:42 cu Nov 14 10:53:46 cu Nov 14 12:06:12 hi Nov 14 13:13:08 Ciao all Nov 14 13:13:22 ciao Pigi Nov 14 13:19:43 Can someone tell me how to make opie-image prefer hostap-modules_0.4.4 to hostap-modules_0.3.9? Nov 14 13:22:40 n/m, I'm a putz. Nov 14 13:35:01 have sense to send a patch for a new h3600_defconfig ??? cause seem with the old one the oe scripts fail ... Nov 14 13:35:14 old one --> Actual one Nov 14 13:42:07 a question, there is something to browse the monotone repository or OE ??? Nov 14 13:42:16 web based i mean :) Nov 14 13:59:19 mhh i just sync oe with monotone ... but now i got an error ... Nov 14 13:59:41 let me guess.... !!! Connection refused ? Nov 14 13:59:54 openswan-2.2.0-r4 --> | cp: cannot stat `/mnt/hda/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/openswan/openswan-2.2.0/./gcc4-fixes.patch': No such file or directory Nov 14 14:00:22 no,not connection refused Nov 14 14:00:28 no n i finish to sync ... but seem new versione of package isn't good as previous ;) Nov 14 14:04:20 check if the file is there.... Nov 14 14:05:59 mhh at now i'm looking for kernel compile correctly :) Nov 14 14:06:17 good luck then Nov 14 14:06:44 it have to be ... is my "mission" ... (for h3600) :) Nov 14 14:11:03 the patch file don't exist ... Nov 14 14:14:20 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r17dc4a2d... 10/: nas100d-kernel: More i2c updates from azummo Nov 14 14:37:02 good night ... Nov 14 14:59:28 nite all Nov 14 15:10:17 When do you need to inherit pkgconfig? Nov 14 15:10:43 when you have an library that creates one Nov 14 15:11:58 creates the pkgconfig files? Nov 14 15:12:07 Hmm, I do, therefore I should inherit Nov 14 15:12:24 there's a good lad Nov 14 15:13:48 omniorb really badly wants to install in STAGING/usr/lib etc Nov 14 15:14:02 I am trying --prefix=/ in conifgure Nov 14 15:48:18 anyone around? Nov 14 15:49:03 anyone want to tell me to write my own install to staging, rather than using make DESTDIR ... Nov 14 15:49:56 anyone know of a good example bb for something like nethack. It builds by first calling a setup script and then modifying a config.h. Nov 14 15:51:32 there isnt a bb for nethack? Nov 14 15:52:54 uE: Sound slike you just need to provider your own do_configure then? Lots of .bb's do that aleady... Nov 14 15:53:44 Crofton_: heh - yeah Nov 14 15:53:46 v8jlene: Thanks, I'll try that route. Nov 14 15:53:56 Crofton_: the nethack build system is a bit icky Nov 14 15:54:13 fortunately, it does have plenty of comments in the makefile for arm. Nov 14 15:54:30 this is painful because there are lot of header files to stage Nov 14 15:54:30 one day I set off to make a .bb, but then I actually had real work to do and it never got done Nov 14 15:54:32 it is just going through the pain of bb-izing it. Nov 14 16:01:11 CosmicPenguin: He, yeah I know what that's like. I moving from a custom build to oe for a router and some of the work required, even for to fix some of the existing .bb files, is enoug to drive you mad ;) Nov 14 16:06:23 hmm the clock on this athlon machine is screwy Nov 14 16:06:47 Crofton_: dual core? Nov 14 16:06:58 Crofton_: Isn't an X2 is it? Nov 14 16:07:15 dunno cheap machine from newegg Nov 14 16:07:52 ggr Nov 14 16:07:54 focus Nov 14 16:08:14 system monitor shows it burning about 1/2 cpu Nov 14 16:08:19 something funny is going on Nov 14 16:08:36 I thought I was ahving stupid ntp problems Nov 14 16:09:32 ah Nov 14 16:09:53 ~google fedora athlon fast clock Nov 14 16:36:30 good nite Nov 14 16:57:54 Hey Guys.... if anyone is here and using OZ 3.5.4-rc: are you also having probs playing MP3's?? with opie-mediaplayer Nov 14 16:58:55 zonehakin9_: read the topic. Nov 14 17:12:17 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1d77723a... 10/: openswan: add missing gcc4 patch Nov 14 17:35:48 * Geo_KM is away: Away at the moment Nov 14 18:17:36 is there a problem with the oe monotone branches? Nov 14 18:18:51 for example, this page doesn't work http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/ Nov 14 18:29:03 no ideas? Nov 14 18:33:56 Xumbi: viewmtn hasn't worked for a few days, but I think that's just a problem with the web interface rather than with the oe monotone branches... Nov 14 18:34:09 ah, ok Nov 14 18:34:57 I was trying to build something for familiar-0.8.3, it said that version was maintained in a different branch, but I couldn't check it out Nov 14 18:36:23 can't remember the name of the branch though, I don't have it in front of me Nov 14 18:39:15 Xumbi: Sorry, no idea. I'm not using familiar... Nov 14 18:39:52 not a problem, I'll get more information and come back tomorrow Nov 14 18:40:03 I just wanted to see if there was a known issue Nov 14 18:43:01 Xumbi: Pretty quite here this time of day, you need to be back in about 10-15hrs time when there's lots of people about ;) Nov 14 18:45:27 hah, ok Nov 14 18:52:14 lots of people are on European time Nov 14 18:52:24 best time for oe hacking is us AM :) Nov 14 18:53:22 ah, I'll keep that in mind Nov 15 00:08:04 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r63e5b79a... 10/: nslu2-kernel: fix IXP flash map driver (ixp4xx.c) in 2.6.15-rc1 Nov 15 00:34:46 morning Nov 15 01:38:08 morning Nov 15 02:37:11 hi,everyone Nov 15 02:37:19 how to ship extra files in a package ? Nov 15 02:38:13 <_law_> diesert, include it in the .bb file, there are many examples in the packages dir Nov 15 02:39:27 _law_: yes , there are. it seem that set the FILES = "filenames"? Nov 15 02:40:38 <_law_> diesert, file:// Nov 15 02:41:43 <_law_> look at matchbox-panel-hacks_0.3-1.bb Nov 15 02:42:52 _law_, thank a lot :) Nov 15 02:48:33 morning all Nov 15 02:48:46 morning RP :) Nov 15 02:49:10 morning Nov 15 02:49:18 hi hrw|work Nov 15 02:49:46 hi Nov 15 02:50:54 RP: gpe-bootsplash can be dynamic ? Nov 15 02:52:32 gcc4 build going nice Nov 15 02:54:21 diesert: I'd doubt it Nov 15 02:55:15 diesert: it simply display PNG or SVG picture Nov 15 02:57:29 RP: I make a gpesplash for a svg , but I need to let it can running Nov 15 02:58:59 What's up with http://www.openembedded.org? It worked last week for a day or two but that's the only time I've seen it work in the past month. I haven't been able to access it again for the past few days? Nov 15 02:59:10 v8jlene: http://oe.handhelds.org/ use Nov 15 02:59:27 ~pester kergoth or easydns to update zone Nov 15 02:59:29 kergoth or easydns to update zone: Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? .. Are we there yet? see http://beverlys.net/LJ/BuggingYou.swf Nov 15 02:59:34 hrw: it is just a static picture ? cannot make it move in some mothod? Nov 15 02:59:54 hrw|work: Ah, thanks. I'll bookmark that. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 15 02:59:56 2005