**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 21 02:59:57 2005
Nov 21 03:03:19 <hrw|work> re
Nov 21 03:14:03 <greentux> hi lrg
Nov 21 03:20:27 <lrg|home> greentux: good morning
Nov 21 03:20:55 <greentux> lrg|home: morning, and sound up to date ;)
Nov 21 03:21:44 <lrg|home> greentux: It should be. I sent 0.7 to RP on Friday, however I wasn't able to test wm8731
Nov 21 03:23:27 <greentux> will see
Nov 21 03:23:40 <RP> lrg|home: The 2.6.15-rc2 kernel has SoC 0.7 - tested and works on cxx00 - not tested on the wm8731 but I have faith :)
Nov 21 03:23:54 <lrg|home> RP: cool :)
Nov 21 03:24:17 <RP> lrg|home: You might want to look over: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/soc_platform_upd-r0.patch
Nov 21 03:24:38 <lrg|home> RP: ok
Nov 21 03:25:22 <RP> lrg|home: Its just the updates I had to make to get it working on 2.6.15-rc2. I've not done the machine specific controls yet. 
Nov 21 03:25:31 <hrw|work> RP: so we can expect -rc2-RP on days?
Nov 21 03:25:45 <greentux> lrg|home: "It is missing logic to detect hp/mic insertions" that can be fixed if you recieve the borzoi?
Nov 21 03:26:05 <RP> hrw|work: 2.6.15-rc2 is in OE now ;-)
Nov 21 03:26:16 <lrg|home> RP:  yes, unfortunately the ms2 does not have any hp detection. thanks
Nov 21 03:26:45 <RP> lrg|home: I think the snd_assert is the only thing you probably need to pick up for your tree
Nov 21 03:27:10 <RP> I'll merge the corgi driver patches and let you have that once I've sorted it out a bit more
Nov 21 03:27:22 <lrg|home> RP: ok, I'll then put it all in 0.8
Nov 21 03:27:33 <hrw|work> RP: so I have to update..
Nov 21 03:28:32 <lrg|home> RP: got good feedback from ChipZilla wrt ASoC on pxa
Nov 21 03:28:43 <hrw|work> brb
Nov 21 03:29:03 <lrg|home> RP: They are going to help out soon
Nov 21 03:29:25 <RP> lrg|home: Good to know. The changes to the i2c probing in the codecs look good to me btw
Nov 21 03:30:10 <RP> lrg|home: I'm still a little confused with which devices and drivers we have. I'm beginning to wonder if ASoC should become its own bus type but I need to think about it a bit more :)
Nov 21 03:30:37 <lrg|home> RP: thanks, I still have a few more cleanups todo. I'm working on some txt developer docs today.
Nov 21 03:31:27 <lrg|home> RP: bus type is interesting. I've also been thinking about moving dpm out to alsa core. Takashi sugested it would be good for laptops
Nov 21 03:32:08 <RP> lrg|home: I can see the advantages of that as the power domains idea isn't just limited to handhelds/SoCs
Nov 21 03:34:32 <greentux> what stands "SoC" for?
Nov 21 03:34:46 <lrg|home> greentux: System on Chip
Nov 21 03:35:18 <hrw|work> re
Nov 21 05:02:17 <greentux> rp: we are trying now 2.6.15-rc2... :)
Nov 21 05:12:48 <hrw|work> | drivers/built-in.o(.text+0x3a0d8): In function `sharp_probe':
Nov 21 05:12:48 <hrw|work> | hwmon.c: undefined reference to `map_read32'
Nov 21 05:13:01 <hrw|work> thats with linux-oz 2.6.15-rc2 here
Nov 21 05:13:18 <hrw|work> ops.. thats with collie MACHINE..
Nov 21 05:13:52 <hrw|work> we need Pavel Machek to cooperate..
Nov 21 05:16:04 <CIA-3> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r88725fb2... 10/: suspend-desktop: New package providing a desktop entry to suspend some devices using apm or the pm helper.
Nov 21 05:27:39 <RP> hrw|work: I have a patch which fixes that...
Nov 21 05:28:13 <hrw|work> ~lart firefox 1.5rc
Nov 21 05:28:13 * ibot hits firefox 1.5rc with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha
Nov 21 05:28:16 <RP> hrw|work: I'll probably try and pull the remaining bits of collie support from Pavel's tree as things are a lot closer to working in mainline now
Nov 21 05:28:46 <hrw|work> ok
Nov 21 05:33:40 <hrw|work> NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.14+2.6.15-rc2-r0: task do_build: completed
Nov 21 05:33:55 <hrw|work> uf.. anyway my c760 is at home - lost charge during night
Nov 21 05:36:49 <rob_w-cgi> hi i need some little help : what is the command to update my openembedded tree ?? 
Nov 21 05:39:03 <rob_w-cgi> sorry , now am back .. 
Nov 21 05:40:03 <v8jlene> rob_w-cgi: Does the item "7. To update the tree later..." on the getting started wiki cover what you want?: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted
Nov 21 05:45:01 <rob_w-cgi> thats it , thanks v8jlene ! 
Nov 21 05:49:50 * v8jlene is away: Doing other things...
Nov 21 06:44:55 <greentux> hrw|work: student found for opie network settings2 upgrade... :)
Nov 21 06:46:52 <hrw|work> greentux: great - opie-devel@handhelds.org is proper ML for him then
Nov 21 06:52:24 <lrg|home> ~lart some customers for using 2.4.19 in new projects
Nov 21 06:52:25 * ibot declares some customers a moron for using 2.4.19 in new projects
Nov 21 07:03:14 <rob_w-cgi> lrghome  what is that 
Nov 21 07:04:01 <lrg|home> rob_w-cgi: is what ?
Nov 21 07:06:23 <rob_w-cgi> that project you mentioned 
Nov 21 07:06:53 <lrg|home> rob_w-cgi: ah, you mean the project. I don't know. I've just had a request for support on using the wm9713 in a new project and the kernel being used is 2.4.19.
Nov 21 07:09:41 <chouimat> morning
Nov 21 07:10:09 <rob_w-cgi> ah nice 
Nov 21 08:09:10 <rob_w-cgi> hi ,, how long will a pull take ??
Nov 21 08:10:13 <hrw|work> mt pull?
Nov 21 08:10:14 <hrw|work> ~ewi
Nov 21 08:10:16 <ibot> hmm... ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2
Nov 21 08:10:25 <hrw|work> longer then getting snapshot probably
Nov 21 08:10:53 <rob_w-cgi> but i want to be uptodate ??
Nov 21 08:11:10 <hrw|work> how much revs you have to pull now?
Nov 21 08:11:28 <rob_w-cgi> certs 6854 and revs 1815
Nov 21 08:12:07 <rob_w-cgi> ah  certs now jumped to already done 1600 and revs in is now counting up at 70
Nov 21 08:13:15 <rob_w-cgi> ok now i reached over 100 revs which equals 1 % ,, that is ok ,, could be finished within 1 or 2 hours in that speed .. 
Nov 21 08:13:58 <univac_> Hmm
Nov 21 08:14:06 <univac_> Polacy okupuja
Nov 21 08:17:38 <greentux> 2.6.15-rc2 built fine
Nov 21 08:17:45 <greentux> and running of course
Nov 21 08:18:57 <hrw|work> rob_w-cgi: when I have >200 revs to pull I grab snapshot
Nov 21 08:19:01 <hrw|work> greentux: nice
Nov 21 08:19:49 <rob_w-cgi> how frequentlly are the snapshots done ??
Nov 21 08:22:10 <rob_w-cgi>  ah , ididnt know they they happen so frequent .. .ok then i now this also but i maybe drop back to the snapshot also !  thanks  anyway 
Nov 21 08:22:11 <hrw|work> daily
Nov 21 08:22:28 <hrw|work> np
Nov 21 08:25:24 <rob_w-cgi> so to clarify ,, i get the snapshot ,,, then i can just start building again via bitbake , right ?
Nov 21 08:26:43 * CosmicPenguin smacks his head
Nov 21 08:26:44 <hrw|work> you get snapshot, then pull to get revs pushed after snapshot creation (small amount of them) and then start building
Nov 21 08:26:49 <CosmicPenguin> I always forget there's a OE tree in the damn bitbake svn
Nov 21 08:27:08 <hrw|work> rob_w-cgi: ofcourse after fetch/pull dont forget to update working copy
Nov 21 08:31:25 <rob_w-cgi> sorry , what do you mean by " update working copy " exactly ?
Nov 21 08:32:01 <hrw|work> "monotone update" command
Nov 21 08:32:46 <hrw|work> getting repo only gives you monotone database. you have to get it contents to plain files to get bitbake running. thats what 'monotone update' do
Nov 21 08:33:15 <CosmicPenguin> hmmm... I guess I should read the bitbake mailing list more often
Nov 21 08:33:53 <rob_w-cgi> ok
Nov 21 08:35:01 <CosmicPenguin> hmmm... somethings not working out here
Nov 21 08:36:20 <CosmicPenguin> grrr....
Nov 21 08:36:38 <rob_w-cgi> crap now i get a fatal error saying : failure extracting schema from sqlite _master
Nov 21 08:36:43 <CosmicPenguin> Ok, whats up with the bitbake svn?  It seems to have been reverted
Nov 21 08:36:45 <rob_w-cgi> on the pull 
Nov 21 08:40:52 <hrw|work> rob_w-cgi: which monotone you have? <0.20?
Nov 21 08:45:21 <rob_w-cgi> .22
Nov 21 08:46:31 <hrw|work> strange
Nov 21 08:48:30 <rob_w-cgi> maybe i scrab all and start over from the "Getting Started "  no worry`s ,, i get back if it doesnt work 
Nov 21 08:51:30 <rob_w-cgi> the latest OE.db.bz2 is about 30 MB and the OE-TODAYDated is about 15MB as all the others
Nov 21 08:52:38 <hrw|work> my database is 201M
Nov 21 08:55:20 <rob_w-cgi> hmm now i extracted the OE-20051121.tar.bz2 which extracts the whole org.openembedded.dev dir 
Nov 21 08:55:56 <rob_w-cgi> i try again .. i will report back today evening .. cu and thanks so far
Nov 21 08:56:08 <hrw|work> np
Nov 21 09:10:15 <hrw|work> RP: ping
Nov 21 09:19:22 <hrw|work> RP: http://pastebin.ca/29968
Nov 21 09:43:57 <RP> hrw|work: Looks interesting - be interesting to see how much difference it makes :)
Nov 21 09:44:29 <RP> They're mostly new options that have only appeared on recent kernels
Nov 21 09:47:33 <hrw|work> 1246124 contra  1167568
Nov 21 09:49:00 <RP> We could probably use that saving on spitz as spitz's kernel is getting too large
Nov 21 09:49:19 <RP> Says he who overwrote his boot area the other day :-/
Nov 21 09:49:24 <hrw|work> ;)
Nov 21 09:49:40 <RP> Looks like the size limit in OE doesn't quite work...
Nov 21 09:54:13 <RP> hrw|work: I think I'd prefer not to set the optimise for size though - we want speed :)
Nov 21 09:56:31 <hrw|work> RP: sure - can you enable jffs2 summary?
Nov 21 10:02:01 <RP> hrw|work: just about to test
Nov 21 10:02:28 <hrw|work> I will look into this at home
Nov 21 10:02:36 <hrw|work> sumtool probably is in mtd-utils
Nov 21 10:03:35 <hrw|work> I will look into this at home at /home 
Nov 21 10:03:36 <hrw|work> ;)
Nov 21 10:04:08 <hrw|work> nope.. it is not there
Nov 21 10:06:51 <hrw|work>  * $Id: sumtool.c,v 1.8 2005/11/07 11:15:14 gleixner Exp $
Nov 21 10:06:57 <hrw|work> a little update will be needed
Nov 21 10:09:30 <RP> hrw|work: It should add a summary to an image already on the disk making subsequent reboots faster
Nov 21 10:11:40 <hrw|work> o.. I was thinking that only sumtool do this
Nov 21 10:12:30 <RP> hrw|work: I'd guess it will be added at first boot if it hasn't already. Just a guess though :)
Nov 21 10:17:53 <RP> hrw|work: You do need to add it at image generation time
Nov 21 10:18:25 <hrw|work> I know
Nov 21 10:19:17 <RP> hrw|work: There are actually two summary patches - Erase Block Summary and Centralised Summary. I was thinking of one and you the other :)
Nov 21 10:19:35 <RP> EBS has made mainline, CS is still being worked on
Nov 21 10:19:46 <hrw|work> EBS is added by sumtool and I was thinking of it
Nov 21 10:21:09 <Noodles> If I want to just write a whole mtd filesystem, can I just dd it to the device?
Nov 21 10:21:36 <hrw|work> Noodles: openwrt people even recommend it 
Nov 21 10:21:52 <Noodles> Excellent.
Nov 21 10:23:56 <Noodles> Oh, RP, you were talking about using your Z for in car GPS, weren't you? I took mine with me this weekend and drove to Kent (from Norwich) with gpsdrive.
Nov 21 10:24:18 <Noodles> Slight problem in that I hadn't loaded all the maps onto it, but aside from that it was quite cool.
Nov 21 10:24:23 <RP> Noodles: Neat. Where did you end up getting the map data from?
Nov 21 10:24:26 <RP> ah :)
Nov 21 10:24:32 <Noodles> gpsdrive will pull from Expedia.
Nov 21 10:24:45 <Noodles> Though I recorded the track and have fed it into OpenStreetMap.
Nov 21 10:24:53 <Noodles> I really need to find some time to hack gpsdrive to use OSM.
Nov 21 10:24:59 <RP> I really need to build some packages and get it working. Just need more time...
Nov 21 10:25:11 <RP> I bought the gps and have never used it :-(
Nov 21 10:25:15 <Noodles> I had no problems building gpsdrive from OE.
Nov 21 10:25:20 <RP> not out the house anyway...
Nov 21 10:25:46 <hrw|work> time to go home and try 2.6.15-rc2 on Z
Nov 21 10:26:23 <hrw|work> cu
Nov 21 10:26:26 <RP> hrw|work: It runs here, with defconfig changes you mentioned
Nov 21 10:26:34 <RP> I'll check them in shortly?
Nov 21 10:26:39 <Noodles> I heard one of the direction finding companies were considering releasing an ARM Linux version.
Nov 21 10:26:53 <hrw|gone> RP: schedulers part is OE bug #41 iirc
Nov 21 10:27:15 <RP> hrw|gone: We can finally mark that as fixed soon then :)
Nov 21 10:27:36 <RP> Noodles: I really hope someone does...
Nov 21 10:28:07 <Noodles> I'd rather they released an OS version and just sold the data.
Nov 21 10:28:34 <RP> Noodles: That would be better again :)
Nov 21 10:28:52 <Noodles> Which is why I've been keen on OSM. Though no really useful clinets for it yet.
Nov 21 10:29:31 <RP> Making gpsdrive use it would be a good first step, as you say
Nov 21 10:43:46 <hrw> re
Nov 21 10:43:52 <Cwiiis> Hey hrw
Nov 21 10:44:00 <RP> wb hrw 
Nov 21 10:44:01 <hrw> hi Cwiiis 
Nov 21 10:44:03 <RP> hi Cwiiis 
Nov 21 10:44:20 <hrw> Cwiiis: can you test does current collie kernels still need that ugly apm hack which you added to gpe-dm?
Nov 21 10:44:36 <hrw> Cwiiis: from my simple test it looks like it is not needed anymore
Nov 21 10:47:10 <hrw> its good to have 1.5Mbps at home when it comes to fetching kernels
Nov 21 10:47:43 <hrw> ~lart wifi at home for 58KiB/s from husky->AP->desktop
Nov 21 10:47:43 * ibot teaches wifi at home the basics, including how to RTM for 58KiB/s from husky->AP->desktop
Nov 21 10:50:13 <Cwiiis> hrw: I don't have my collie here at the mo - but if that apm patch that went in a while ago actually worked, it shouldn't be necessary, no
Nov 21 10:50:43 <hrw> Cwiiis: ok. so I will drop it
Nov 21 10:50:55 <Cwiiis> hrw: Will soon hear if it's necessary ;)
Nov 21 10:51:16 <hrw> Cwiiis: I would rather get this checked by gpe user(s) before release..
Nov 21 10:51:45 <hrw> I could even try to provide own -rc gpe-image
Nov 21 10:52:01 <Cwiiis> hrw: Might be worth asking on oe-forums? I'll probably have my collie in a couple of weeks if it's not urgent
Nov 21 10:52:18 <hrw> oesf-forums you mean?
Nov 21 10:53:39 <hrw> RP: could you test one thing for me on spitz?
Nov 21 10:54:26 <RP> hrw: What's that?
Nov 21 10:54:42 <Cwiiis> hrw: oesf, yeah
Nov 21 10:54:55 <hrw> RP: does CapsLock work for you in console?
Nov 21 10:55:00 <hrw> Fn+Tab
Nov 21 10:55:15 <hrw> RP: I vote for 'no' ;)
Nov 21 10:55:48 <RP> hrw: I looked at those patches and cxx00 need the same fix. It doesn't work - just checked
Nov 21 10:56:15 <hrw> ok. so I will push 4 devices changeset
Nov 21 10:56:23 <RP> Someone screwed that up when they wrote the keymap - other things to worry about I guess :)
Nov 21 10:56:32 <RP> hrw: fine with me
Nov 21 10:57:09 <hrw> 'PCMCIA control ioctl' will be off on my c7x0 ;)
Nov 21 10:57:43 <hrw> RP: can zauruses use 'execute-in-place' kernels?
Nov 21 10:58:19 <RP> hrw: No, no bootloader support. Waste of time on something with as much memory as the Zaurii anyway
Nov 21 10:58:26 <hrw> ok
Nov 21 10:59:55 <hrw> RP: one more thing about kernel.. what for hwmon is used on Z?
Nov 21 11:00:39 <RP> hrw: Its not?...
Nov 21 11:00:58 <hrw> its in kernel..
Nov 21 11:02:15 <RP> lets remove it then :)
Nov 21 11:02:20 <hrw> ;)
Nov 21 11:02:29 <RP> I'll do it with the rest of the defconfig updates
Nov 21 11:02:32 <hrw> ok
Nov 21 11:02:58 <hrw> when I will move with / to sd then I will probably also dump dropbear in favor of openssh
Nov 21 11:05:52 * RP -> food
Nov 21 11:05:57 <hrw> smacznego RP
Nov 21 11:40:56 <hrw> RP: what is eraseblock on husky?
Nov 21 11:43:24 <hrw> ignore that - found in machine.conf ;)
Nov 21 12:01:35 <hrw> ~lart ljp
Nov 21 12:01:35 * ibot does a little 'renice 20 -u ljp'
Nov 21 12:08:39 <zecke> hi
Nov 21 12:09:51 <hrw> hi zecke
Nov 21 12:24:09 <hrw> greentux: you have 3100?
Nov 21 12:24:33 <greentux> hrw: yes, why?
Nov 21 12:24:51 <hrw> greentux: CapsLock does not work in console? Fn+Tab
Nov 21 12:25:14 <greentux> hrw: oh 3100 is in @work, i am @home now...
Nov 21 12:25:25 <hrw> ok
Nov 21 12:25:27 <greentux> do you know how to swicth back from real console?
Nov 21 12:25:35 <hrw> Fn+left/right
Nov 21 12:25:50 <greentux> how many consoles there are?
Nov 21 12:26:16 <hrw> by default 1 + opie or gpe
Nov 21 12:26:41 <greentux> ah nice to know. 
Nov 21 12:26:48 <hrw> argh... kernel decided to not find cardreader..
Nov 21 12:27:51 <greentux> mom, bringing child to bed...
Nov 21 12:29:11 <hrw> ~lart something for lack of nodes in /dev/ for reader
Nov 21 12:29:11 * ibot whips something for lack of nodes in /dev/ with a wet and grimy noodle just because for reader
Nov 21 12:29:14 <greentux> what cardreader?
Nov 21 12:29:37 <hrw> multiport one which always work 
Nov 21 12:29:41 <greentux> there are a doc about ibot anywhere? :)
Nov 21 12:29:56 <greentux> ok, not SIM-card reader...ok
Nov 21 12:29:58 <hrw> ~ibot
Nov 21 12:30:00 <ibot> methinks ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org/<chan>/ , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported.
Nov 21 12:30:40 <greentux> ~help
Nov 21 12:31:28 <hrw> arhg.. I dont like wifi@home
Nov 21 12:31:56 <greentux> @home?
Nov 21 12:32:52 <hrw> @home == here
Nov 21 12:33:37 <hrw> I mostly use wifi at home where I have dlink dcf-660w (PRI:1.1.1 STA:1.8.4) and linksys wrt54gs (openwrt whiterussian rc3)
Nov 21 12:34:02 <hrw> I disabled wep and still 60KB/s 
Nov 21 12:34:21 <greentux> i know the developer of dd-wrt if you know
Nov 21 12:34:32 <hrw> when it finally connect and get dhcp lease
Nov 21 12:34:42 <greentux> good.distri, we use it for a city wide wlan net
Nov 21 12:34:47 <Crofton_> which wrt54 should I buy?
Nov 21 12:35:05 <greentux> 54gs (version that linux supports. version 5 doesnt).
Nov 21 12:35:18 <Crofton_> thanks
Nov 21 12:35:20 <greentux> flash your 54gs with dd-wrt distri
Nov 21 12:35:26 <Crofton_> I need to pick one up eventually
Nov 21 12:35:39 <greentux> sorry, you can flash distro u want :)
Nov 21 12:36:41 <greentux> there are newer 54gs doenst running linux
Nov 21 12:43:37 <hrw> heh.. I love that 6-24KB/s over wifi
Nov 21 12:48:54 <greentux> hrw: uses openwrt also OE?
Nov 21 12:49:36 <hrw> greentux: I use openwrt as base distro but extra stuff is from openwrt or OE
Nov 21 12:50:26 <greentux> hrw: but the openwrt guys dont use bitbake/oe environment?
Nov 21 12:51:02 <hrw> they dont use
Nov 21 12:51:21 <hrw> but we have 'wrtoe' distro which is quite coompatible
Nov 21 12:52:15 <greentux> its pitty...
Nov 21 12:53:39 <greentux> somebody knows what sharp delivers next xear (after 3100)?
Nov 21 12:54:29 <hrw> ~hail usbnet
Nov 21 12:54:29 <gremlin[it]> i will ike to know ;) 
Nov 21 12:54:30 * ibot bows down to usbnet and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
Nov 21 12:54:47 <hrw> 600KB/s is nicer then 6-24KB/s over wifi
Nov 21 12:55:18 <greentux> i use 54gs + dlink 660 wirh wpa, 600kB
Nov 21 12:55:54 <hrw> hmm..
Nov 21 12:56:07 <hrw> maybe I will try dd-wrt then ;)
Nov 21 12:56:21 <greentux> ok, cu tom.
Nov 21 12:56:42 <hrw> RP: no success with sumtool - I cannot nandwrite to /dev/mtd3 due to bad blocks ;(
Nov 21 12:57:09 <hrw>  nandwrite /dev/mtd3 /media/card/home.jffs2.sum
Nov 21 12:57:09 <hrw> Input file is not page aligned
Nov 21 12:57:10 <hrw> Data did not fit into device, due to bad blocks
Nov 21 12:57:12 <hrw> ;(
Nov 21 12:57:20 <RP> hrw: :-(
Nov 21 12:57:40 <rob_w> ok , my oe is working again 
Nov 21 12:59:44 <RP> hrw: You should be able to convert the root fs in mtd2 by running sumtool before flashing the image
Nov 21 13:00:13 <hrw> RP: sure - but why not mtd3 too.. it takes 12s to mount it...
Nov 21 13:00:58 <hrw> hmm.. this time I got one step ahead.. 
Nov 21 13:01:12 <hrw> writing data to block 0, 4000, i/o error
Nov 21 13:01:18 <RP> hrw: I know - it would be nice to replace it...
Nov 21 13:02:41 <hrw> does any mtdtool can do scan for badblocks? (other then sharp diagnostic)
Nov 21 13:04:59 <RP> Its normally taken care of by the sharpsl mtd driver itself...
Nov 21 13:06:00 <hrw> sure - but if jffs2 can work with them then why I cannot write jffs2 image into flash due to them?
Nov 21 13:06:26 <CIA-3> 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r158afdd8... 10/: linux-oz-2.6: Update dev kernel defconfigs with changes suggested by hrw.
Nov 21 13:06:53 <RP> hrw: Googling on nandwrite suggests that page alignment is the real problem and that the bad block message is bogus
Nov 21 13:07:35 <hrw> RP: http://pastebin.ca/30047
Nov 21 13:07:47 <hrw> no page aligment
Nov 21 13:08:19 <RP> hrw: Was the image too big for the partition?
Nov 21 13:09:09 * RP has to go again
Nov 21 13:09:09 <hrw> 9M?
Nov 21 13:09:17 <RP> should work :-/
Nov 21 13:09:24 <RP> back much later...
Nov 21 13:09:25 <hrw> 9027584  /media/card/home.jffs2.sum
Nov 21 13:09:47 <hrw> cu RP 
Nov 21 13:16:02 <CIA-3> 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3cdaadf3... 10/: 
Nov 21 13:16:02 <CIA-3> initscripts: fix CapsLock in 2.6 keymaps for Zaurus clamshells
Nov 21 13:16:02 <CIA-3> - this fix problem on akita/borzoi/c7x0/spitz
Nov 21 13:16:02 <CIA-3> - close (again) #107
Nov 21 13:19:44 <hrw> cu
Nov 21 13:42:12 <zecke> hi woglinde , alwin_ 
Nov 21 13:42:41 <gremlin[it]> hi zecke 
Nov 21 14:02:10 <TyggerBob> hrm.. what's the line that goes in the .bb file to specify an extra include directory?
Nov 21 14:06:47 <epronk> good evening
Nov 21 14:10:59 <TyggerBob> good evening..
Nov 21 14:13:40 <epronk> I'm trying to boot my rootfs with qemu
Nov 21 14:14:19 <epronk> I get the famous "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel"
Nov 21 14:14:29 <epronk> can someone help me?
Nov 21 14:16:25 <gremlin[it]> maybe something about the kernel parameters :) 
Nov 21 14:17:03 <epronk> any suggestions?
Nov 21 14:17:31 <epronk> i'm using ony root=/dev/hda
Nov 21 14:18:06 <gremlin[it]> there is a init=  ?
Nov 21 14:19:19 <epronk> no. does init=bin/busybox make any sense? I build bootstrap-image
Nov 21 14:20:04 <gremlin[it]> nope i think ... 
Nov 21 14:20:09 <CosmicPenguin> That does not make any sense at all
Nov 21 14:22:49 <epronk> so what has to be done to make the bootstrap-image rootfs bootable?
Nov 21 14:45:46 <TyggerBob> dumb question.. 
Nov 21 14:45:57 <TyggerBob> can you not have these two things together in a .bb file:
Nov 21 14:45:58 <TyggerBob> EXTRA_OEMAKE = "LDFLAGS=-L${STAGING_LIBDIR}"
Nov 21 14:46:10 <TyggerBob> CFLAGS_prepend = "-I${STAGING_INCDIR}/bluetooth "
Nov 21 14:46:54 <TyggerBob> if I put the first one in, the second doesn't seem to take
Nov 21 14:47:19 <CosmicPenguin> you wouldn't want a -l statement in CFLAGS anyway
Nov 21 14:47:47 <TyggerBob> ?
Nov 21 14:47:57 <TyggerBob> that's an I
Nov 21 14:48:41 <CosmicPenguin> oh heh
Nov 21 14:48:59 <TyggerBob> if I take the first one out, I get unresolved references..
Nov 21 14:49:19 <TyggerBob> if I put them both in, the second one seems to get ditched and the header files aren't found
Nov 21 14:52:39 <TyggerBob> the short story is that basically, the make file has a -lbluetooth 
Nov 21 14:52:46 <TyggerBob> I want to fix that so it points to the bluetooth libs in the staging dir
Nov 21 14:58:10 <CIA-3> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r01542c7b... 10/: nas100d-kernel: Latest 2.6.15-rc1 patches added.
Nov 21 15:20:40 * v8jlene is back (gone 09:30:49)
Nov 21 15:28:01 <TyggerBob> got it..
Nov 21 16:21:46 <gerwinin> lo
Nov 21 17:24:06 <duffolonious> anyone tried a 2.6 kernel with a h38xx?  (I used 2.6.12.6 with the defconfig that came with) - but it doesn't show any text. 
Nov 21 17:25:03 <duffolonious> I may be making my rootfs incorrectly - are there any in depth details on how to create a 'correct' rootfs?
Nov 21 17:31:17 <gerwinin> I have made newt available for those who want
Nov 21 17:31:51 <duffolonious> info? url?
Nov 21 17:32:17 <gerwinin> Oh I need to post that somewhere :)
Nov 21 17:32:28 <gerwinin> I will post it in bugzilla :)
Nov 21 17:38:45 <duffolonious> good call
Nov 21 17:44:27 <gerwinin> Done :)
Nov 21 17:45:07 <gerwinin> pffff 16mb @ 3.5 seconds to download 
Nov 21 17:51:50 <duffolonious> http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/ - this bugzilla?  I don't suppose you have a link?
Nov 21 18:11:12 <v8jlene> duffolonious: This one I think: http://bugs.openembedded.org
Nov 21 18:11:29 <duffolonious> ahh.
Nov 21 18:30:52 * v8jlene is away: Doing other things...
Nov 21 19:51:22 * gerwinin tries to compile mysql :)
Nov 21 19:55:07 * gerwinin get's a headache of those via tv-outs
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Nov 21 21:27:40 <JoseRonnick> hiya.. is this a good channel to discuss pdaXrom zaurus stuff?
Nov 21 21:29:37 <v8jlene> JoseRonnick: Isn't there a #zaurus channel? This one would be more about building stuff for it using OE I guess.
Nov 21 21:29:57 <JoseRonnick> okay, cool thanks..  I'll check that one out :D
Nov 22 00:48:26 <CIA-3> 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r8f866792... 10/: ixp4xx, ixp425-eth: Updated latest versions to use staging/kernel-config instead of trying to work out the correct version number (which does not seem to be available to module.bb).
Nov 22 01:23:55 <gerwinin> lo
Nov 22 01:36:17 <greentux> morning 
Nov 22 01:40:02 <gerwinin> Morning
Nov 22 01:40:33 <gerwinin> Greentux , can you help with some compile error I get all the time when I try to compile php ?
Nov 22 01:41:03 <greentux> gerwinin|sorry, im not a developer...
Nov 22 01:41:34 <gerwinin> hehehe :)
Nov 22 01:41:49 <gerwinin> I am a bit a developer but compare to the other guys I am a rookie
Nov 22 01:47:11 <greentux> which platform do u use?
Nov 22 01:47:18 <gerwinin> x86
Nov 22 01:47:49 <gerwinin> I got some all stack of via boards overhere and I am compiling a couple of different distributions for it 
Nov 22 01:50:05 <v8jlene> gerwinin: Which machine are you configuring for? (ie which conf file in conf/machine directory is being used).
Nov 22 01:50:16 <gerwinin> epia
Nov 22 01:51:29 <v8jlene> gerwinin: First thing to do would be to copy the php entries from site/i686 to site/i386.
Nov 22 01:53:16 <gerwinin> v8jlene let me check somethings 
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Nov 22 02:12:58 <linnuxxy> hi guys
Nov 22 02:13:19 <linnuxxy> i could get the gcc work for the ixp420
Nov 22 02:13:57 <NAiL> ?
Nov 22 02:14:50 <RP> morning all
Nov 22 02:14:55 <NAiL> morning, rp
Nov 22 02:15:06 <linnuxxy> i had some problem with that..and guys here helped me alot
Nov 22 02:15:21 <linnuxxy> morning RP
Nov 22 02:21:09 <greentux> morning rp
Nov 22 02:34:07 <gerwinin> mmm it seems it doesn't work :(
Nov 22 02:36:41 <gerwinin> I can not get php to compile 
Nov 22 02:39:34 <v8jlene> gerwinin: Check the do_configure log and see which site command is being included (check for CONFIG_SITE in oetmp/work/php-5.0.5/temp/do_configure.*). It might be i586 for epia not i386 as I said.
Nov 22 02:39:54 <gerwinin> Okay
Nov 22 02:41:22 <v8jlene> gerwinin: I assme that was your error in the bugzilla? If not you better stick up your current errors on pastebin.com The bugzilla one appears to be just those missing entries in the site file...
Nov 22 02:41:39 <gerwinin> yes
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