**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Nov 24 02:59:57 2005
Nov 24 03:00:11 <diesert> hrw: trying it on my spitz maybe is only way
Nov 24 03:00:24 <ade|desk> morning all
Nov 24 03:00:39 <hrw|work> hi ade
Nov 24 03:00:44 <diesert> hrw:anyway,thank for your patience.
Nov 24 03:00:49 <diesert> hi ade.
Nov 24 03:01:15 <hrw|work> diesert: you cannot test kernels on other device then device for which it is made iirc
Nov 24 03:04:22 <diesert> what does mean about 'irrc' , sorry ,I am ignorant person. please
Nov 24 03:04:46 <hrw|work> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/11/msg00019.html is nice
Nov 24 03:04:48 <hrw|work> ~iirc
Nov 24 03:04:50 <ibot> it has been said that iirc is "if I recall correctly"
Nov 24 03:07:45 <diesert> hrw:  iirc ? abbreviate ? :-/ 
Nov 24 03:08:09 <hrw|work> acronym
Nov 24 03:09:34 <diesert> hrw: i am fresh man , sorry for my ask. I dont know what does mean about 'iirc'. 
Nov 24 03:10:21 <hrw|work> iirc is 'if I recall correctly' like ibot said
Nov 24 03:10:27 <hrw|work> acronym/abbreviate
Nov 24 03:10:41 <diesert> hrw : thankS !
Nov 24 03:25:45 <greentux> morning
Nov 24 03:25:51 <hrw|work> hi greentux 
Nov 24 03:26:20 <greentux> some "news" about 3.5.4 release?
Nov 24 03:28:49 <hrw|work> ask mickeyl when he will back from vacations
Nov 24 03:29:02 <hrw|work> greentux: also look at #350 bug in bugtracker
Nov 24 03:29:55 <hrw|work> I have to find some time to put some fixes from bugtracker into .dev and .dev -> .oz354fam083
Nov 24 03:30:15 <greentux> oe is down, trying hh.org, just mom
Nov 24 03:30:25 <hrw|work> http://bugs.openembedded.org/ is down?
Nov 24 03:32:00 <greentux> no, www.openembedded.org is down :)
Nov 24 03:32:09 <greentux> hrw|work:  #350 is a wishlist?
Nov 24 03:32:19 <hrw|work> yes
Nov 24 03:33:12 <greentux> hrw|work:  is keyboard repeat possible? i think there is no interface...
Nov 24 03:34:36 <hrw|work> greentux: console-tools got fix for it
Nov 24 03:35:01 <hrw|work> so with current (.dev) console-tools you can change repeat from userspace
Nov 24 03:35:33 <greentux> hrw|work:  which command? (i read that there is a kernel patch for repeat rate to do)
Nov 24 03:36:01 <hrw|work> kbd_mode iirc
Nov 24 03:36:48 <hrw|work> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478
Nov 24 03:43:26 <greentux> ok, tried, but the maximum of 255 is to short :) perhaps ist should be better do patch a better middle value
Nov 24 03:44:45 <greentux> but it is no wmore usefull (-d 255 -r100 looks nice)
Nov 24 03:45:27 <greentux> sorry, -d accepts more that 255! all is fine
Nov 24 03:48:47 <hrw|work> if you find some good defaults then give them to RP - he will change them in kernel so we will give better defaults for release
Nov 24 03:49:34 <RP> I want to alter the kernel so each keyboard driver can provide sane defaults
Nov 24 03:52:15 <greentux> looks very good. the console is usable :)
Nov 24 03:52:25 <greentux> morning RP 
Nov 24 03:52:59 <RP> hi greentux 
Nov 24 03:53:07 <RP> and everyone else :)
Nov 24 03:54:32 <hrw|work> time to connect usb charger..
Nov 24 03:54:53 <hrw|work> RP: how long does your c7x0 stay with one charge?
Nov 24 03:55:50 <RP> hrw|work: I don't know - its always on charge when its at my desk
Nov 24 03:56:20 <hrw|work> at my it is not usually
Nov 24 03:56:40 <RP> We should really do some analysis of the power consumption of them and check sleep mode does consume as little power as under the sharp kernel
Nov 24 03:56:58 <hrw|work> and I sometimes feel that I dont know will it run or not when I want to resume it
Nov 24 03:57:25 <_law_> is there any way to install 2.6.14-git3 without reflashing? i cant install modules because ipkg thinsk 2.4.14-rc2 is newer 
Nov 24 03:57:27 <lrg> RP: I have a good bench psu and could measure this when I get my borzoi
Nov 24 03:58:15 <hrw|work> _law_: vi /usr/lib/ipkg/status and change 2.6.14-rc2 to 2.6.13
Nov 24 03:58:42 <RP> hrw|work: beat me to it :)
Nov 24 03:59:15 <hrw|work> RP: hmm.. where I put my leather whip...
Nov 24 03:59:31 <RP> lrg: It would be interesting to see how different things are - I have the equipment here to do it as well - just have never got around to it
Nov 24 03:59:40 <greentux> RP:  the cpu has sleeps states?
Nov 24 04:00:14 <RP> greentux: yes, several different ones - we use the suspend to memory one
Nov 24 04:00:35 <RP> hrw|work: I think that might not have translated too well :)
Nov 24 04:01:00 <hrw|work> RP: sure 
Nov 24 04:01:19 <greentux> RP:  but no cpu frequency scaling?
Nov 24 04:01:36 <hrw|work> greentux: pxa25x has cpufreq
Nov 24 04:01:37 <RP> greentux: No, once again, nobody has written the code for that (yet)
Nov 24 04:02:06 <RP> greentux: We've not had 2.6 running on the device for that long :)
Nov 24 04:02:55 <greentux> RP:  the next job i can talk about with my boss :)
Nov 24 04:03:08 <RP> greentux: sounds good :)
Nov 24 04:04:21 <greentux> moin [lala] 
Nov 24 04:05:28 <[lala]> moin 
Nov 24 04:06:25 <[lala]> actually i'm around since a couple of hours already ... just noticed i had my backup nick ;-)
Nov 24 04:06:50 <hrw|work> hi lala
Nov 24 04:07:09 <[lala]> hi hrw :)
Nov 24 04:07:38 <hrw|work> btw.. in Poland 'lala' == 'chick' ;P
Nov 24 04:08:02 <[lala]> lol
Nov 24 04:08:06 <[lala]> nice to know
Nov 24 04:08:40 <RP> Here, lala is a tellytubby :)
Nov 24 04:08:59 <[lala]> btw: the hint with local copy of conf files worked like a charm and now i have the wpa-supplicant in my opie-image
Nov 24 04:09:24 <[lala]> but i had to rm my cache to get rid of the dependency there
Nov 24 04:09:38 <[lala]> RP: i know :-)
Nov 24 04:10:16 <hrw|work> [lala]: 'touch conf/local.conf' is easier way to remove cache
Nov 24 04:10:38 <[lala]> cool
Nov 24 04:10:52 <[lala]> are those hints in any FAQ yet?
Nov 24 04:11:21 <RP> [lala]: That sounds like a bitbake bug - it should notice the new file and invalidate the cache itself...
Nov 24 04:12:04 <[lala]> well, u get the right dependencies if u do a bitbake -e
Nov 24 04:12:45 <RP> [lala]: you mean the tmp directory as well as the cache?
Nov 24 04:13:11 <[lala]> no, i just had to remove tmp/cache
Nov 24 04:13:38 <RP> [lala]: It sounds like a bitbake bug then...
Nov 24 04:45:46 <hrw|work> cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset.
Nov 24 04:45:48 <hrw|work> ;(
Nov 24 04:51:02 <hrw|work> RP: pcmcia subsystem suxx
Nov 24 04:52:00 <RP> hrw|work: I never see that error here :-/
Nov 24 04:52:06 <hrw|work> RP: I know that..
Nov 24 04:52:20 <hrw|work> ~seen lardman|work
Nov 24 04:52:27 <ibot> lardman|work <n=lardman@138.38.73.178> was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 17h 56m 38s ago, saying: 'night all'.
Nov 24 04:57:18 <RP> hrw|work: You're summoning powers are good :)
Nov 24 04:57:41 <RP> s/you're/your/ :-/
Nov 24 04:57:41 <hrw|work> lardman|work: do you have socket rev E bt card?
Nov 24 04:58:40 <lardman|work> hrw|work: nah, rev A iirc
Nov 24 04:58:58 <lardman|work> Was I summoned then?
Nov 24 04:58:59 <lardman|work> ;)
Nov 24 04:59:16 <hrw|work> lardman|work: anyway.. did you get "cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset." when inserted cf card?
Nov 24 04:59:20 <hrw|work> 24 12:53 < hrw|work> ~seen lardman|work
Nov 24 04:59:21 <lardman|work> Is there some trick I should use to make hostap-modules build for the correct kernel?
Nov 24 04:59:21 <hrw|work> 24 12:56 -!- lardman|work [n=lardman@138.38.73.178] has joined #oe
Nov 24 05:00:01 <lardman|work> magic hey
Nov 24 05:00:26 <lardman|work> how does hostap-modules decide which kernel it wants to build for?
Nov 24 05:01:00 <lardman|work> It's building for 2.6.14-git3, but I want it for our strangely named .15 version
Nov 24 05:01:27 <hrw|work> lardman|work: rm tmp/staging/arm-linux/kernel, rebuild 2.6.15-rc2, rebuild hostap?
Nov 24 05:03:36 <lardman|work> right, I've set my computer to it
Nov 24 05:03:58 <lardman|work> Why did you want to know if I had a rev E card anyway?
Nov 24 05:13:15 <do13> hi all
Nov 24 05:14:16 <hrw|work> hi dirk
Nov 24 05:15:34 <do13> hi hrw|work
Nov 24 05:20:20 <RP> hi dirk
Nov 24 05:22:54 <do13> hi richard
Nov 24 05:23:04 <TyggerBob> morning
Nov 24 05:55:22 <TyggerBob> Is there some master list of all the SECTIONS for .bb files/
Nov 24 05:55:23 <TyggerBob> ?
Nov 24 05:55:40 <TyggerBob> they seem to be a bit, well, arbitrary
Nov 24 05:57:03 <hrw|work> there is no such list ;(
Nov 24 05:57:26 <TyggerBob> OK.. I'll just try to keep it logical, based on other examples I've seen
Nov 24 05:57:33 <hrw|work> you can create such and pester us to fix it
Nov 24 05:57:56 <TyggerBob> maybe something like the portage list in Gentoo
Nov 24 05:58:55 <alan|home> morning
Nov 24 05:59:09 <hrw|work> hi alan
Nov 24 05:59:14 <hrw|work> TyggerBob: or section in Debian
Nov 24 06:02:59 <TyggerBob> ahhh
Nov 24 06:04:48 <TyggerBob> which is probably more appropriate :)
Nov 24 06:17:23 <lee_> root@kubuntu:/stuff/build/conf# bitbake -n task-bootstrap
Nov 24 06:17:23 <lee_> NOTE: Using cache in '/stuff/cache'
Nov 24 06:17:23 <lee_> ERROR: no files to build.
Nov 24 06:17:23 <lee_> NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 0 parsed, 0 skipped, 0 masked.
Nov 24 06:17:23 <lee_> ERROR: Nothing provides task-bootstrap
Nov 24 06:17:25 <lee_> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
Nov 24 06:17:39 <lee_> Did I miss something?
Nov 24 06:18:18 <hrw|work> yes
Nov 24 06:18:36 <lee_> I followed oe documentation.
Nov 24 06:18:36 <hrw|work> you fscked BBPATH etc..
Nov 24 06:18:56 <hrw|work> lee_: http://www.hrw.one.pl/2005/10/31/my-openembedded-enviroment/ will probably help you
Nov 24 06:20:52 <lee_> Thanks. I'll give it a try.
Nov 24 06:21:23 <TyggerBob> Is it possible to address the SHARE directory in the staging directory the same way you address bin, etc.. 
Nov 24 06:21:38 <TyggerBob> something like ${STAGING_SHARE} ?
Nov 24 06:21:56 <TyggerBob> oops, maybe ${STAGING_SHAREDIR} ?
Nov 24 06:22:04 <hrw|work> STAGING_DATADIR?
Nov 24 06:22:29 <TyggerBob> like if I have a readme that I want to ship with in the ipk.. 
Nov 24 06:22:47 <TyggerBob> to go in /usr/share/<app>
Nov 24 06:24:21 <TyggerBob> Ok.. I'll try that, thanks, hrw|work 
Nov 24 06:26:24 <TyggerBob> and the /etc dir?
Nov 24 06:26:39 <TyggerBob> sorry.. are these listed in some doc that I should be reading?
Nov 24 06:28:11 <lee_> exit
Nov 24 06:31:17 <hrw|work> bitbake --help 
Nov 24 06:31:23 <TyggerBob> ahhh.. 
Nov 24 06:31:24 <TyggerBob> ok
Nov 24 06:31:26 <hrw|work> look for "-e" description
Nov 24 06:43:32 <TyggerBob> just so I understand...
Nov 24 06:44:15 <TyggerBob> ${libdir} will be put into the ipk. ${STAGING_LIBDIR} is only used during the build?
Nov 24 06:49:04 <Cobelius> Hi
Nov 24 06:49:14 <Cobelius> I'm trying to make a description for a machine
Nov 24 06:49:30 <Cobelius> evertime when I try to compile something the build of glibc fails
Nov 24 06:49:38 <Cobelius> here is the error message of bitbake http://pastebin.com/437109
Nov 24 06:49:43 <Cobelius> can somebody help me?
Nov 24 06:51:08 <Cobelius> The machine file: http://pastebin.com/437111
Nov 24 06:52:05 <Cobelius> The file for the Kernel: http://pastebin.com/437112
Nov 24 06:56:59 <TyggerBob> hrw|work, what does this mean:
Nov 24 06:57:03 <TyggerBob> NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package:
Nov 24 06:57:03 <TyggerBob> NOTE:   /usr/lib/dsniff.magic
Nov 24 06:57:03 <TyggerBob> NOTE:   /usr/lib/dsniff.services
Nov 24 06:57:03 <TyggerBob> NOTE:   /usr/lib/dnsspoof.hosts
Nov 24 06:57:20 <TyggerBob> those files are in the working directory, but they don't seem to get installed
Nov 24 06:59:02 <dan2003> anybody familiar with arm7 or specifcally the STR71x fammily? are these devices clocked at 50MHz (45MIPS) sufficient to decode mp3/vorbis files ?
Nov 24 07:10:45 <zecke_> don't know
Nov 24 07:12:49 <hrw|work> Cobelius: kernel file is wrong - you need defconfig in SRC_URI
Nov 24 07:17:38 <Cobelius> okay
Nov 24 07:26:45 <Bernardo> hi
Nov 24 07:28:22 <magnet> hi
Nov 24 07:29:59 <zecke_> dan2003: /whois magnet 
Nov 24 07:31:52 <magnet> I'm so cute.
Nov 24 07:32:04 <zecke_> ;)
Nov 24 07:32:27 <zecke_> wanted to test your nick for sexism... like Babe Magnet as Real Name or such
Nov 24 07:33:55 <magnet> Babe magnet, damnit.
Nov 24 07:44:09 <hrw|work> does someone with 2.6 kernel (c7x0 or cxx00) got this: "cs: pcmcia_socket0: time out after reset." after cf card insert?
Nov 24 07:45:01 <RP> hrw|work: I saw it once when I'd broken the kernel - I'd stopped turning the power on to the card
Nov 24 07:45:30 <hrw|work> RP: I have it too often with my bt card
Nov 24 07:46:06 <RP> hrw|work: It could mean your card is slow to respond under certain circumstances...
Nov 24 07:46:34 <lardman|work> I've not got my Z here today - I'll check with my card when I get home later on
Nov 24 07:46:50 <hrw|work> its "socket rev E" - quite popular shitty bt card
Nov 24 07:47:08 <Bernardo> hrw|work: your card is also a socket rev E, right
Nov 24 07:47:22 * Bernardo mumbles slow irc today...
Nov 24 07:48:12 <Bernardo> hrw|work: I'll try tonight mine, I've got my laptop working again (burned hd), so I'll be able to generate a 2.6 image for the akita
Nov 24 07:49:48 <hrw|work> cool
Nov 24 07:50:52 <Bernardo> I haven't seen that with the sandisk wifi card, but as I haven't used much the socket E..
Nov 24 08:00:12 <hrw|work> meeting time ;(
Nov 24 08:06:00 <Cobelius> hmm
Nov 24 08:06:10 <Cobelius> the defconfig file did'nt help
Nov 24 08:06:25 <Cobelius> still got the same when I try compile the glibc
Nov 24 08:19:16 <Cobelius> does anybody had similar problem to compile the glibc?
Nov 24 08:37:18 <Cobelius> What is the format for the CVSDATE variable= YYYMMDD or different?
Nov 24 08:38:16 <hrw|work> YYYYMMDD
Nov 24 08:53:45 <Cobelius> thanks
Nov 24 09:27:52 <happycactus> koen: it happened again... http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/UsefulTargets
Nov 24 09:29:00 <hrw|work> reverted now
Nov 24 09:30:08 <koen> yep
Nov 24 09:30:48 <hrw|work> hmm.. we probably need to turn off registering etc..
Nov 24 09:31:11 <koen> like I said weeks ago, we need the loginpatch from the hh.org wiki
Nov 24 09:35:53 <zecke_> koen: hey
Nov 24 09:36:03 <koen> hey zecke_ 
Nov 24 09:41:45 <zecke_> wb
Nov 24 09:44:59 <hrw|work> someone use dvd and kde?
Nov 24 09:46:18 <zecke_> hrw|work: I did
Nov 24 09:46:22 <zecke_> hrw|work: kaffeine ;)
Nov 24 09:46:29 <hrw|work> zecke_: I know that kaffeine
Nov 24 09:46:44 <hrw|work> I need something ver simple: I put dvd into drive and press button
Nov 24 09:47:15 <hrw|work> to not teach someone how to watch dvd on my computer when I'm at work and that person is at home
Nov 24 09:47:24 <zecke_> oh
Nov 24 09:47:49 <zecke_> if kaffeine would start if the DVD gets inserted?!
Nov 24 09:47:55 <hrw|work> and I dont want to go to kde 3.5-rc1 at home
Nov 24 09:48:20 <hrw|work> zecke_: kind of - or a method to run kaffeine in dvdplay mode with one button
Nov 24 10:09:54 <hrw|work> zecke_: 'kaffeine DVD' command should be enough ;)
Nov 24 10:13:38 <mithro> is openembedded.org still down?
Nov 24 10:14:08 <hrw|work> oe.handhelds.org is working still, but openembedded.org is still not done
Nov 24 10:16:47 <mithro> who do we have to beat to get it fixed?
Nov 24 10:17:27 <hrw|work> kergoth
Nov 24 10:23:32 <CIA-3> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r57c6a114... 10/: matchbox-applet-cards: Add improved version of the pdaXrom card applet. A kind contribution by Patrick Steiner.
Nov 24 10:23:37 <CIA-3> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r48d440a2... 10/: simpad.conf: Use suspend desktop file, the button might be used otherwise.
Nov 24 10:23:41 <CIA-3> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb63afef0... 10/: handheld-common.conf: Remove scap from the default images, UI tools provide similar services. If necessary add to the target descriptions which need it directly.
Nov 24 10:23:46 <CIA-3> 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r00978981... 10/: mete-gpe: Add gpe-screenshot to the default gpe images.
Nov 24 11:08:21 <hrw|work> cu
Nov 24 11:09:09 <patw> hello!
Nov 24 11:09:33 <patw> just a quick question: if you build .ipk packages, why does the filename sometimes get prepended with lib?
Nov 24 11:09:34 <Cobelius> How can I configure that a glibc 2.3.5 from a stecific date is used?
Nov 24 11:09:40 <Cobelius> I trief CVSDATE
Nov 24 11:09:47 <Cobelius> but it didn't work
Nov 24 11:10:03 <Cobelius> s/trief/tried/
Nov 24 11:11:08 <Cobelius> oh sorry
Nov 24 11:11:14 <Cobelius> it worked
Nov 24 11:11:24 <Cobelius> but now there is anther problem
Nov 24 11:11:32 <Cobelius> | configure: error: add-on directory "linuxthreads" does not exist
Nov 24 12:42:24 <TyggerBob> I hate not knowing stuff.. 
Nov 24 12:42:44 <TyggerBob> I want to write a .bb file for ike-scan
Nov 24 12:43:26 <TyggerBob> it looks like it's doing some test that won't work in a cross-compile enviroment.. it has a check for cross-compiling, but it still fails..
Nov 24 13:00:49 <florian> hi all
Nov 24 13:36:41 <Pigi> Ciao all
Nov 24 13:36:52 <woglinde> hi pigi
Nov 24 13:37:07 <Pigi> hi woglinde 
Nov 24 13:37:38 <woglinde> hm how long might it take to see linux on the xbox360 in the wild
Nov 24 13:39:51 <florian> hey Pigi 
Nov 24 13:40:00 <Pigi> hey florian !
Nov 24 13:40:00 <florian> woglinde: heh
Nov 24 13:40:09 <woglinde> he florian
Nov 24 13:48:48 <Pendalar> probably awhile, no one cares with it crashing on games
Nov 24 13:48:50 <woglinde> ah I am looking at the ccc fahrplan
Nov 24 13:49:43 <woglinde> hihi
Nov 24 13:49:52 <woglinde> "Xbox" and "Xbox 360" Hacking
Nov 24 14:27:40 <TyggerBob> what's the recommended way to pass -lpcap to the build in a .bb file?
Nov 24 14:29:18 <TyggerBob> Other ones like -lbluetooth, seem to work, but I can never get it to pickup -lpcap
Nov 24 14:32:11 <TyggerBob> I thought this was right:
Nov 24 14:32:14 <TyggerBob> LDLAGS_prepend = "-L${STAGING_LIBDIR} -lpcap "
Nov 24 14:32:19 <TyggerBob> but it doesn't seem to be taking it.
Nov 24 14:32:42 <TyggerBob> or should I be using EXTRA_OEMAKE = ... ?
Nov 24 14:43:55 <florian> TyggerBob: maybe _append
Nov 24 14:48:42 <TyggerBob> :(
Nov 24 14:48:47 <TyggerBob> no joy
Nov 24 14:51:07 <TyggerBob> err.. got it, 
Nov 24 14:51:18 <TyggerBob> I just patched the Makefile instead
Nov 24 14:51:31 <TyggerBob> LIBS = $(LDFLAGS) -lpcap
Nov 24 14:51:34 <TyggerBob> and it worked
Nov 24 14:52:27 <Pigi> TyggerBob, you can try by modifying the bb file adding an oe_make function that contains LIBS=-lcap
Nov 24 14:53:14 <Pigi> so this env variable would be passed to make ( as you would do in a normal environment )
Nov 24 14:53:25 <TyggerBob> hrm.. 
Nov 24 14:53:47 <TyggerBob> do you know of any examples of doing this, off the top of your head?
Nov 24 14:54:04 <Pigi> wait one second
Nov 24 14:54:04 <woglinde> hm the tcpdump works ot of the box
Nov 24 14:55:29 <TyggerBob> woglinde, I'll take a look at that..
Nov 24 14:55:35 <TyggerBob> was trying to get p0f to compile
Nov 24 14:55:51 <woglinde> tygger sorry I meant that tcpdump isnt a good example
Nov 24 14:56:38 <Pigi> TyggerBob,  someting like 
Nov 24 14:56:38 <Pigi>  do_make() {
Nov 24 14:56:38 <Pigi>    LIBS=-lcap 
Nov 24 14:56:38 <Pigi>   make all
Nov 24 14:56:38 <Pigi> }
Nov 24 14:56:45 <Pigi> or similar
Nov 24 14:57:50 <TyggerBob> ahhh.. thanks woglinde 
Nov 24 14:57:53 <TyggerBob> thanks Pigi 
Nov 24 14:57:58 <TyggerBob> learning as I go :)
Nov 24 14:58:00 <Pigi> np
Nov 24 14:58:36 <woglinde> lpcap
Nov 24 14:58:38 <TyggerBob> I guess it's "better" to have the stuff in the .bb file rather than patching the Makefile, if you can get away with it?
Nov 24 14:58:39 <woglinde> *g*
Nov 24 14:58:47 <TyggerBob> heheh
Nov 24 14:58:49 <woglinde> tygger yes
Nov 24 14:59:46 <Pigi> TyggerBob, look at vlan_1.8.bb for some examples of what I mean
Nov 24 15:00:29 <woglinde> pigi?
Nov 24 15:00:36 <woglinde> have we the same vlan?
Nov 24 15:00:55 <woglinde> hm
Nov 24 15:01:07 <woglinde> LDLIBS = ""
Nov 24 15:01:14 <Pigi> dunno, it's only an example for giving variables to bb functions
Nov 24 15:01:15 <woglinde> inst usefull at all
Nov 24 15:01:27 <Pigi> it is, woglinde 
Nov 24 15:01:33 <Pigi> is an example
Nov 24 15:01:41 <woglinde> yes okay *g*
Nov 24 15:01:44 <Pigi> or look at at_3.1.8.bb
Nov 24 15:02:15 <Pigi> TyggerBob, have I been able to explain my idea ?
Nov 24 15:04:18 <TyggerBob> yes.. I think so
Nov 24 15:04:25 <TyggerBob> I will try it tomorrow..
Nov 24 15:04:37 <Pigi> ok
Nov 24 15:04:48 <TyggerBob> Thanks again for your help
Nov 24 15:04:51 <Pigi> np
Nov 24 15:04:54 <TyggerBob> added three more apps today :)
Nov 24 15:05:08 <Pigi> I'm waiting to llok at your image ;)
Nov 24 15:05:48 <Pigi> nite all
Nov 24 15:16:01 <TyggerBob> grr..
Nov 24 15:16:33 <TyggerBob> what's the variable for /etc?
Nov 24 15:16:53 <TyggerBob> I take it, it's not ${ETCDIR} :(
Nov 24 15:16:59 <florian> sysconfdir
Nov 24 15:18:27 <TyggerBob> As usual, thanks florian 
Nov 24 15:18:44 <florian> :-)
Nov 24 15:22:32 <TyggerBob>  install: cannot create regular file `/mnt/usbext2/bitbakery/oe/build/tmp/work/p0f-1.1-r0/image/p0f/': Is a directory
Nov 24 15:23:38 <TyggerBob>         install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}
Nov 24 15:23:38 <TyggerBob>         install -d ${D}${sysconfdir}/p0f
Nov 24 15:23:38 <TyggerBob>         install -m 0644 p0f.fp ${D}${sysconf}/p0f/
Nov 24 15:23:38 <TyggerBob>         install -d ${D}${bindir}
Nov 24 15:23:38 <TyggerBob>         install -m 0755 p0f ${D}${bindir}/
Nov 24 15:23:58 <TyggerBob> am I doing something obviously wrong?
Nov 24 15:25:40 <florian> TyggerBob: maybe you need to have the file name in the third "install" line. some versions of install seem to be very picky.
Nov 24 15:26:28 <TyggerBob> ahhh
Nov 24 15:28:26 <TyggerBob> hrm.. nope...
Nov 24 15:29:59 <florian> same situation in nr. 5
Nov 24 15:30:40 <TyggerBob> | install: cannot create regular file `/mnt/usbext2/bitbakery/oe/build/tmp/work/p0f-1.1-r0/image/p0f/p0f.fp': No such file or directory
Nov 24 15:30:54 <TyggerBob> seems like sysconfdir is not getting explanded..
Nov 24 15:30:58 <TyggerBob> expanded, even
Nov 24 15:31:10 <TyggerBob> anyway, a job for tomorrow..
Nov 24 15:31:26 <TyggerBob> thanks very much
Nov 24 15:31:33 <florian> TyggerBob: ahh in one line you have "sysconf"
Nov 24 15:31:45 <florian> (missing "dir")
Nov 24 15:32:56 <TyggerBob> that was it. 
Nov 24 15:32:59 <TyggerBob> thanks!!!
Nov 24 15:33:23 <florian> yw 
Nov 24 20:29:46 <TyggerBob> Heya koen
Nov 25 01:02:28 <joshua_> Hmm -- can someone build me a brctl for arm?
Nov 25 01:04:30 <joshua_>  configure: WARNING: `missing' script is too old or missing
Nov 25 01:04:33 <joshua_> hahaha.
Nov 25 01:11:02 * france is back (gone 32:06:52)
Nov 25 01:42:00 <hrw|work> morning
Nov 25 01:43:05 <hrw|work> hi XorA 
Nov 25 01:43:09 <XorA> morning
Nov 25 01:53:29 <diesert> morning hrw
Nov 25 01:53:44 <diesert> joshua:what is the brctl?
Nov 25 01:56:36 <hrw|work> bridge control util
Nov 25 01:56:51 <Pendalar> hrw, what I wanted the other day
Nov 25 01:56:58 <Pendalar> I saw the mirror notice at @oz.org
Nov 25 01:57:14 <diesert> hrw:thanks 
Nov 25 01:57:15 <Pendalar> if it helps, remember there's the mirror at oz.pdai.org for the feeds
Nov 25 01:58:15 <hrw|work> Pendalar: I know - we have it listed somewhere on site.. hmm.. maybe we should list mirrors in one place to have them visible...
Nov 25 01:58:38 <Pendalar> yep, it's pretty much forgotten now
Nov 25 01:58:50 <Pendalar> was using 20G bandwidth a month at one point
Nov 25 02:00:40 <hrw|work> what do you think about putting mirrors list under 'downloads'?
Nov 25 02:01:21 <RP> morning all
Nov 25 02:01:35 <Pendalar> for ours, being a feed mirror.. that would make sense
Nov 25 02:01:50 <Pendalar> or more sense to have it in the ipkg config as an alt
Nov 25 02:02:08 <Pendalar> for a web mirror, dunno.. maybe just a "choose your location link at the top"
Nov 25 02:02:39 <Pendalar> we were going to do a total mirror, but I wasn't given sql clearance
Nov 25 02:03:05 <Pendalar> and overall certain people were against a web mirror at the time
Nov 25 02:03:13 <XorA> morning RP
Nov 25 02:03:35 <hrw|work> Pendalar: which country your mirror is located?
Nov 25 02:04:45 <Pendalar> TX, USA iirc
Nov 25 02:04:51 <hrw|work> ok
Nov 25 02:06:36 <hrw|work> guys: have a look at openzaurus.org and tell does 'Downloads' section on left looks ok
Nov 25 02:07:43 <hrw|work> Pendalar: can you sync 3.5.3/upgrades/ and 3.5.4-rc/ dirs?
Nov 25 02:08:00 <Pendalar> it should do it automatically.. I haven't gotten any error emails
Nov 25 02:09:40 <Pendalar> Thu Nov 24 06:00:01 CST 2005
Nov 25 02:09:40 <Pendalar> Thu Nov 24 12:00:01 CST 2005
Nov 25 02:09:40 <Pendalar> Thu Nov 24 18:00:01 CST 2005
Nov 25 02:09:40 <Pendalar> Fri Nov 25 00:00:02 CST 2005
Nov 25 02:09:45 <Pendalar> weird.. no errors in the log
Nov 25 02:10:42 <XorA> hrw|work: looks fine to mke
Nov 25 02:10:53 <hrw|work> so I will leave it as it is for now
Nov 25 02:11:06 <Pendalar> I have a slight problem with it, but let me fix the sync first
Nov 25 02:11:49 <hrw|work> ok
Nov 25 02:11:53 <Pendalar> hmm someone's tweaked my unison source
Nov 25 02:12:00 <Pendalar> sf.net didn't like it
Nov 25 02:12:53 <hrw|work> Pendalar: we dont have feeds on sf.net...
Nov 25 02:12:58 <hrw|work> ops.
Nov 25 02:13:09 <hrw|work> whole feeds content moved to ewi
Nov 25 02:13:24 <Pendalar> nice of you guys to shoot me an email =-s
Nov 25 02:13:43 <Pendalar> it syncs with sf.net every 6 hours
Nov 25 02:13:48 <hrw|work> fsck.. forgot
Nov 25 02:13:56 <Pendalar> I'll need some info then
Nov 25 02:14:03 <RP> Pendalar: It was mentioned on the OZ lists
Nov 25 02:14:22 <Pendalar> which I do not receive
Nov 25 02:14:27 <RP> all rather hurried though :-/
Nov 25 02:14:30 <Pendalar> I no longer use a zaurus as mine broke
Nov 25 02:14:39 <RP> Ah :-(
Nov 25 02:14:40 <Pendalar> however I still support the community in the limited ways I can
Nov 25 02:14:55 <RP> thanks :)
Nov 25 02:15:05 <Pendalar> so hrw|work .. I'm going to need some ssh love.. and some path info
Nov 25 02:16:05 <Pendalar> and my home will need to be able to have read access of the oz home area 
Nov 25 02:16:21 <Pendalar> or I'll need an oz login like I had with sf.net
Nov 25 02:16:31 <Pendalar> whichever makes people sleep better at night
Nov 25 02:24:24 <hrw|work> Pendalar: currently we have to wait for mickeyl return. then oz 3.5.4 release talk, getting access for uploading feeds etc..
Nov 25 02:25:53 <Pendalar> ok
Nov 25 02:26:06 <Pendalar> the way I do it is via unison over ssh
Nov 25 02:26:26 <Pendalar> so I'd need unison on the server, matching the version I have (although I can update mine)
Nov 25 02:26:52 <Pendalar> and sufficent access to compare the repository to the mirror's and syncing one way
Nov 25 02:33:45 <hrw|work> Pendalar: I'm writing about mirrors situation to oz-devel
Nov 25 02:34:09 <Pendalar> anything I need to know?
Nov 25 02:36:20 <hrw|work> are you subscribed to openzaurus-devel@lists.sourceforge.net?
Nov 25 02:36:27 <hrw|work> if not then give me email
Nov 25 02:50:23 * france is away: Away
Nov 25 02:59:41 <alan|home> morning all
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