**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 28 02:59:57 2005 Nov 28 03:06:39 Tygger_Bob: ping Nov 28 03:16:20 hi hrw|work Nov 28 03:16:23 hi zecke, lrg|home , rp Nov 28 03:16:31 morning all Nov 28 03:16:42 hrw|work: glad you liked nand-disk :) Nov 28 03:16:53 morning lrg|home Nov 28 03:22:34 hey Nov 28 03:27:18 ~lart debian Nov 28 03:28:57 currently I feel that gentooized debian is needed.. so many transitions are already in 'unstable' that its hard to build something kde related. there are 3 versions of kde available (3.4.2, 3.4.3, 3.5-rc1) etc.. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 28 03:50:16 2005 Nov 28 04:34:38 do13: Do you have an updated set of patches for tosa yet btw? Nov 28 04:45:57 hi all Nov 28 04:46:06 RP: Yes. http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/temp/tosa-2.6.15.patch Nov 28 04:49:49 do13: Thanks, Am I ok to merge that? Nov 28 04:51:27 RP: Yep. Probably the defconfig-tosa needs some changes, but we can do this later. Nov 28 04:51:30 oh bugger Nov 28 04:51:37 do13: how is touch on the tosa ? Nov 28 04:51:44 do13: I also created http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/tosa_fixes-r0.patch which is probably similar to one of your patches. Do you mind if I pass that to Russell? Nov 28 04:52:38 bought an akita, its been delivered at home, and my wife doesn't know about me buying it , there could be trouble tonight :( Nov 28 04:53:01 RP: Done: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/patches/viewpatch.php?id=3170/1 Nov 28 04:53:36 do13: I'm also going to enable tosa in the corgi_defconfig that's included in mainline if that's ok with you. It does mean bugs in tosa will get more exposure via kautobuild but I keep an eye and fix the zaurus models if anything breaks Nov 28 04:54:09 lrg|home: Haven't looked at this since week. Lack of time :-) Nov 28 04:54:27 do13: Ah, good, thanks. I'm evidently lagging a bit :) Nov 28 04:54:41 do13: same here, I'm going to do the pm stuff for it this week. Nov 28 04:55:14 lrg|home: great :) Nov 28 04:58:08 RP: collie still fails at kautobuild :( Nov 28 04:59:19 RP: btw - why not tosa_defconfig instead of adding tosa bits to corgi_defconfig? Nov 28 05:01:06 hrw|work: For mainline, building all in one defconfig makes more sense and looks neater on kautobuild. I'm thinking of putting poodle into corgi_defconfig as well... Nov 28 05:01:30 ah.. spitz too? Nov 28 05:02:05 hrw|work: One kernel can in theory support poodle, corgi* and tosa all from one defconfig. We just don't do it as it wastes space. Nov 28 05:02:21 The pxa27x models can't be in the same kernel as the pxa25x ones Nov 28 05:02:50 So we have spitz, corgi and collie defconfigs. Nov 28 05:03:11 ok Nov 28 05:03:17 just wanted to know Nov 28 05:04:37 hi to all Nov 28 05:06:38 someone know why the h3800.patch (http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/kernel-discuss/11/1111.html) wasn't accepted ??? just to not make the same mistakes :) Nov 28 05:35:01 http://www.digital-cube.co.kr/ seems to use OE too :) Nov 28 05:43:31 hostap-utils depend on hostap-modules... Nov 28 05:48:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rba3347dd... 10/: ghettotooth: RPEDEPEND on perl and some style fixes Nov 28 05:49:28 ghettotooth can be rewritten in pure ash probably Nov 28 05:50:15 probably Nov 28 05:59:18 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/ not working ? Nov 28 06:01:00 hrw|work, you pinged me? Nov 28 06:01:05 Tygger_Bob: yep Nov 28 06:01:12 sorry.. I was taking my squirt to school.. Nov 28 06:01:14 sup?> Nov 28 06:02:08 * Tygger_Bob needs to go back to his .bb's and revisit the depends, I think.. Nov 28 06:02:09 Tygger_Bob: looked into your stuff.. weird things Nov 28 06:02:30 NOTE: package hrw-opie-image-1.0-r0: task do_build: completed Nov 28 06:02:33 yeah :) Nov 28 06:03:26 other than the depends, what kinds of weird things? Nov 28 06:04:33 http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/OE.htm <- monotone log | grep Author, then counted and sorted Nov 28 06:06:09 I'm 6th.. was 4th Nov 28 06:07:10 I suspect my stats got inflated by applying all the patches to .oz354fam083 Nov 28 06:07:12 * Tygger_Bob 's pretty new at these, hrw|work, so if you have suggestions or better ways of doing things, I'm all eyes :) Nov 28 06:07:45 or I guess I could turn on my festival plugin for xchat and be all ears... Nov 28 06:08:48 Tygger_Bob: add homepage, author, more info in description (or in comments) Nov 28 06:09:31 Tygger_Bob: files naming.. bluesnarfer_0.1.bb instead of PV="0.1" inside Nov 28 06:09:38 Tygger_Bob: naming is PN_PV.bb Nov 28 06:10:09 Tygger_Bob: DEFAULT_PREFERENCE is not needed when there is no other versions Nov 28 06:11:16 Good stuff.. thanks for the feedback.. Nov 28 06:12:19 Tygger_Bob: order of fields Nov 28 06:13:31 http://pastebin.ca/31523 Nov 28 06:29:05 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r3b622325... 10/: linux-oz-2.6: dev kernel tosa updates from Dirk, ohci fix, add collie mtd update patch and remove the pm_legacy dependency from arm apm Nov 28 06:29:30 I just built image... Nov 28 06:31:03 hrw|work: There isn't anything that really affects c7x0 in that update Nov 28 06:31:31 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r239d71ae... 10/: tosa-2.6.conf update from dirk Nov 28 06:32:56 ok Nov 28 07:15:41 someone remember how should be script be done to get it working as apm event? I have extra script in /etc/apm/event.d/ names 02dtl1_cs.sh - script works OK when started from shell but not called by apm Nov 28 07:59:34 hrw|work: I didn't think those scripts ever got called, though that was a while back Nov 28 08:40:36 fsck Nov 28 08:41:59 so that maybe a reason why my c7x0 does not use alarms Nov 28 08:44:51 arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_eh - strange.. Nov 28 09:10:24 hi jbowler Nov 28 09:12:08 hi hrw Nov 28 09:12:51 jbowler: may I nitpick you a bit? Nov 28 09:13:01 sure Nov 28 09:13:23 your commit messages could be reformatted in future? Nov 28 09:13:31 package: something Nov 28 09:13:34 - one thing Nov 28 09:13:37 - second thing Nov 28 09:13:47 will pastebin something... Nov 28 09:14:15 I'm following the formatting rules specified on the mailing list. Nov 28 09:14:20 sure Nov 28 09:14:23 'lo Nov 28 09:15:03 The '-' was part of the specification... Nov 28 09:15:35 http://pastebin.ca/31542 Nov 28 09:16:35 Can you update the formatting rules? (I can't even find them any longer...) Nov 28 09:16:38 second version is more readable iirc Nov 28 09:16:47 will Nov 28 09:17:25 There is also ambiguity about how to handle non-package changes and changes were a single commit alters multiple packages. Nov 28 09:17:58 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/MonotonePhraseBook has some examples Nov 28 09:18:08 feel free to expand that page with more examples Nov 28 09:19:08 koen: which is ment to be authoritative, the regular expression or the example (since they differ) Nov 28 09:20:19 White space is also unspecified in the RE Nov 28 09:20:55 I don't understand 'package category' (so, so far as I know, I've never used it) Nov 28 09:22:50 I interpret as | , but I think I've actually used 'class file' (because 'base' is difficult to understand, unlike base.bbclass) Nov 28 09:24:30 is a lot better as Nov 28 09:28:20 koen: is base.bbclass is better or worse than just base? Nov 28 09:29:23 I would use full name Nov 28 09:31:46 That's what I favour too (i.e. base.bbclass). Nov 28 09:38:23 What about multiple packages? E.g. in revision 5f7ba48aad3647f22d5633150744eab40efbf473 I just used "db" as the package name, despite the fact that I had to change pretty much every package which used db to be consistent with the db change. Nov 28 09:38:38 I listed the changed packages at the end... Nov 28 09:41:20 that would be ok (I guess) Nov 28 09:41:59 has anyone tried monotone 0.24 yet? Nov 28 09:42:12 koen: I did Nov 28 09:42:59 jbowler: http://pastebin.ca/31546 one? for me it looks ok (even with original formatting) Nov 28 09:44:57 jbowler: Alavaro said that cherokee can be as small as 100k :) Nov 28 09:45:27 I'll poke him to make a new release with the 'embedded' option Nov 28 09:48:50 hrw|work: yes, that one Nov 28 09:49:56 bye Nov 28 09:50:33 koen: the unpacked package comes out to 821kbytes at present - that will actually fit in a ucslugc flash image. Nov 28 09:50:43 s/821/812/ Nov 28 09:51:21 nice Nov 28 09:51:26 cherokee-logo.png is 69555 bytes though - and that won't compress further. Nov 28 09:51:35 it should be a JPEG Nov 28 09:52:13 we could always replace it with a jpeg in OE Nov 28 09:53:46 yes, or maybe separate that stuff out into a separate package - someone who configures the whole site doesn't need it. Nov 28 09:54:48 Sill /usr is most of it - 643kbytes, with /usr/lib 591k Nov 28 09:56:32 It looks like most of the plugins are optional (/usr/lib/cherokee - 371kbytes) Nov 28 09:57:12 ipv6 disabled? Nov 28 09:57:14 hmmm Nov 28 09:58:32 On NSLU2: CONFIG_IPV6=m Nov 28 09:59:26 Like pretty much everything not required for boot - because there's only 1MByte for the compressed kernel. Nov 28 10:01:31 and ipv6 is huge Nov 28 10:04:15 jbowler: I know the feeling. The zaurii have 1.2MB ish and we're cutting the limit rather fine at the moment... Nov 28 10:04:17 135k compressed, and the kernel image is currently 890k compressed - so it might just fit, but it is really close. Nov 28 10:05:49 RP: it works out OK on NSLU2 because the network cannot be in the kernel (because of the Intel ETH driver licensing issues) - in fact even if the eth driver could be compiled in it wouldn't fit... Nov 28 10:06:58 jbowler: We have ext3 in kernel which is half the problem. It means we can boot direct from the microdrive though Nov 28 10:10:42 ipv6 works great as a module Nov 28 10:10:53 I'm wondering why cherokee disables ipv6 Nov 28 10:13:57 speaking about ipv6... what does ipv6 gives for ipv4 user? Nov 28 10:17:37 at the moment nothing Nov 28 10:18:00 but is has better multicast support, no more fragmentation, option for mobileIP, etc Nov 28 10:19:05 I use it to work around my stupid dhcp server Nov 28 10:34:44 cu Nov 28 10:38:11 :ibot Nov 28 10:38:33 ~ibot Nov 28 10:38:35 rumour has it, ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org// , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. Nov 28 10:39:15 can ibot list availiable packages for OE ? Nov 28 11:01:34 re XorA Nov 28 11:16:53 Anyone had any luck building minimo for collie? Mine keeps stopping with Nov 28 11:16:54 /build/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lxpcom Nov 28 11:19:11 the one in .0z354fam083 uses the wrong cvs tree and the one in .dev doesn't build right now Nov 28 11:19:50 Aha, thanks. Are there any binaries (ipk) around? Nov 28 11:23:16 they should be in the feeds for your distro Nov 28 11:27:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r44ef2a80... 10/: xserver-kdrive 20050207: remove apm-hack patch from h3600 since there may or may not be possible problems Nov 28 12:11:10 <_law_> pb_: any ideas http://pastebin.com/441269 Nov 28 12:11:47 no idea, sorry Nov 28 13:30:28 hi folks Nov 28 13:30:49 hey ade|desk Nov 28 13:30:53 still alive? Nov 28 13:31:12 or hasn't the mailman shown up yet? Nov 28 13:31:33 my wife is out at aerobics Nov 28 13:31:47 do13: It looks like tosa keyboard needs updating after the make input device dynamic patches in mainline Nov 28 13:31:52 she hasn't said anything atm, i wait in fear Nov 28 13:33:07 ok right where does one get an easy image to start with from home, my oe build sys is at work :( Nov 28 13:36:05 openzaurus.org? Nov 28 13:36:43 wow, that seems old hehe, oh well its a start :) Nov 28 13:37:46 ade|desk: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/www.openzaurus.org/official/unstable/3.5.4-RC/sl1000/ Nov 28 13:38:04 am downloading now thanks Nov 28 13:38:20 with loads of RC bugs ;) Nov 28 13:39:04 hmm what fun tomorrow, a .dev build or ozfam Nov 28 13:40:02 I should really make a decent 2.6 image for akita owners :) Nov 28 13:40:32 RP: i start work at 9 ;) Nov 28 13:40:47 only joking Nov 28 13:41:19 RP: which changes do you mean? Nov 28 13:45:38 do13_: It's ok, it has been converted, sorry. There are a few compiler warnings about it though Nov 28 13:47:03 RP: Yep. It works. I'll fix the warnings and send this to the input people. Nov 28 13:48:38 do13_: Be warned that they can take an age to respond (3 months in the case of corgi). I'd cc Dimitry Nov 28 13:49:05 RP: Thanks Nov 28 13:49:39 I ended up going via akpm to get spitz sorted out Nov 28 13:56:50 do13: I take it you've seen the led code btw? Hopefully it will make LED support easy :). I've also just started to refactor the sharpsl_pm suspend/resume code. I live in hope that this will be useful for tosa as well as collie. I'm not very familar with tosa's charging/suspend/resume requirements though Nov 28 13:57:36 If there is anything I can do to make the sharpsl_pm code more useful for tosa, please ask :) Nov 28 13:59:41 RP: I found the LED code. I think this useful for tosa too. Nov 28 14:00:40 do13: I'm hoping to push this into mainline but its going to cause some friction :-/ Nov 28 14:00:59 RP: :) Make rmk happy. Nov 28 14:02:45 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r02c04a86... 10/: pvrusb2-mci: added several releases that somehow did not make it to the archive Nov 28 14:02:49 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r4fb1223f... 10/: cdstatus: created; made patch that allow both LE and BE machines to write a proper wav header Nov 28 14:04:18 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r264f8902... 10/: linux-oz-2.6: dev branch LED code improvements. Refactor sharpsl_pm as requested by mainline to assist adaption to collie Nov 28 14:04:49 RP: sharpsl_pm. With the expansion jacket tosa has 2 main batteries. So wee need to change some parts Nov 28 14:06:34 do13: I wondered about that. I'm open to suggestions (patches?) as to how to handle it... Nov 28 14:08:13 do13: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/sharpsl_pm_move-r0.patch shows the direction I'm currently going... Nov 28 14:08:49 Its not an easy diff to read though :-/ Nov 28 14:11:09 RP: Does corgi or spitz has a backup battery? Nov 28 14:11:43 do13: No, just the single main battery Nov 28 14:12:27 RP: Ok then tosa has up to 3 batteries:) Nov 28 14:13:35 do13: eek :) Nov 28 14:14:11 has anyone tried the tosa kdrive fix yet? Nov 28 14:15:17 koen: tosa kdrive fix? yellow lines? Nov 28 14:15:24 yes Nov 28 14:15:43 the trick is to write to a (the?) shadowfb Nov 28 14:16:09 the patch: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=395 Nov 28 14:16:15 koen: That's just a hacky workaround, not a fix Nov 28 14:16:23 the bug: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=490 Nov 28 14:17:02 RP: yeah, but it gives us a releasable X image for the time being Nov 28 14:17:14 it seems kdrive attracts ugly fixes ;) Nov 28 14:17:28 I'd prefer to leave the bug visible until someone fixes it properly... Nov 28 14:17:45 certainly Nov 28 14:17:57 that's why the apm bug is still open Nov 28 14:32:51 hmm had to do a speedy exit there ;) Nov 28 15:39:50 mickey|zzZZzz: I can host you too ;) Nov 28 17:16:21 good nite Nov 28 17:20:21 I'm a loser baby... Nov 28 17:20:32 so why dont you kill me Nov 28 18:16:41 Hum, anyone know how to remove the branch tag from a clearly erroneous but not yet merged set of commits? Nov 28 21:50:59 is there a fix for flite-1.2-r2? I'm getting 10k messages that look like "cmu_us_kal_diphone.c:110931: warning: initialization discards qualifiers from pointer target type" Nov 28 21:51:25 maybe I have to update my gcc or something Nov 28 21:57:32 jumpkick: If they are only warnings then they shouldn't stop it from building. There must be an error in there somewhere? The warnings are probably due to using a newer compiler than what it has been tested with. Nov 28 21:57:47 v8jlene: I think your right Nov 28 21:58:05 I got past all the warnings and there is an internal errror with gcc Nov 28 21:58:07 :( Nov 28 21:58:21 | arm-linux-gcc: Internal error: Killed (program cc1) Nov 28 21:58:42 That's probably OOM Nov 28 22:00:42 jbowler-away: OOM? Nov 28 22:00:46 what's that Nov 28 22:00:54 Out Of Memory Nov 28 22:01:23 dmesg - i.e. look in the syslog - it will probably say that the system has run out of memory and that processes are being killed Nov 28 22:03:02 ah Nov 28 22:03:07 k, I'll check Nov 28 22:03:23 yup, that's it Nov 28 22:04:18 jumpkick: Just run a build with gcc 3.4.4 and it completed fine. I also got those same 10k warnings. Watching memory usage the highest I spotted was 420M for one of the files... Nov 28 22:06:45 v8jilene: that would be my problem... I'm running only 256 MB w/o swap Nov 28 22:07:17 used to be able to build on that config back in the pre-monotone days Nov 28 22:07:34 looks like I'll need the swap now Nov 29 01:22:22 morning Nov 29 01:22:57 morning XorA ans all Nov 29 01:30:36 where I can get tarball of org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch Nov 29 02:05:08 morning all Nov 29 02:12:51 'morning RP Nov 29 02:16:39 morning all Nov 29 02:17:14 morning ade|desk Nov 29 02:18:02 koen: where I can get tarball of org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch Nov 29 02:18:09 moin btw Nov 29 02:19:10 gints: nowhere, you have do a monotone pull to get the branch Nov 29 02:19:21 hi Nov 29 02:19:34 :( Nov 29 02:20:19 I hate monotone... could you pls pls be so kind and prepeare for me one Nov 29 02:20:27 tar ball Nov 29 02:22:06 and it's ok if you will just say no Nov 29 02:23:06 morning Nov 29 02:23:07 ~ewi Nov 29 02:23:10 methinks ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Nov 29 02:23:37 gints: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE-20051129.tar.bz2 maybe? Nov 29 02:23:37 morning hrw Nov 29 02:23:49 there is .dev branch imo Nov 29 02:24:00 and it complains so Nov 29 02:24:18 gints: why you want !.dev? Nov 29 02:24:19 that familiar-0.8.3 is not maintained there Nov 29 02:24:38 hrw|work: I do not want Nov 29 02:24:42 there is dev Nov 29 02:24:47 in link you gave Nov 29 02:24:55 aha ok Nov 29 02:25:17 gints: grab snapshot of database and checkout Nov 29 02:25:28 I need monontone for that Nov 29 02:25:39 but I do not want to compile it on my work computer Nov 29 02:25:39 hmmm.... anyone know if #familiar is supposed to be about the distro ? Nov 29 02:26:26 obergix[work]: familiar chanel imo is #handhelds.org Nov 29 02:27:29 ok... me vas thinking that no title on the chan was suspicious ;) Nov 29 02:27:58 thx gints Nov 29 02:28:09 np Nov 29 02:28:32 gints: why compile monotone? which distro you run? Nov 29 02:28:44 gints: but maybe someone will know here too : Nov 29 02:28:47 anyone here having regenerated a gpe-image for h39xx ? Nov 29 02:28:56 familiar Nov 29 02:29:11 I stumble upon a missing patch... Nov 29 02:29:21 gints: on buildmachine? Nov 29 02:29:23 probably something which was not committed into monotone Nov 29 02:30:03 oh sory Nov 29 02:30:07 RH8 Nov 29 02:30:33 Qtopia Phone 2.2 released. Nov 29 02:30:48 morning all Nov 29 02:31:03 gints: and monotone homepage does not provide binaries? Nov 29 02:31:05 hi Dirk Nov 29 02:31:14 there is some kind of Nov 29 02:31:17 moment Nov 29 02:31:40 hi marcin Nov 29 02:35:00 bb in 10 minutes Nov 29 02:37:58 hrw: I need libstdc++.so.6 for that binary to work Nov 29 02:39:13 <_law_> is this normal? warning: underquoted definition of _AC_PTH_ERROR Nov 29 02:40:02 <_law_> get this errors on every autoconfig package Nov 29 02:45:59 hi dirk Nov 29 02:46:07 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rb1001082... 10/: osb-nrcit: add missing patch Nov 29 02:46:12 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r83d5ccaf... 10/: Nov 29 02:46:12 ixp4xx-csr: attempt to fix build timestamp problems in 2.1 Nov 29 02:46:12 - The make of the kernel module (.ko) sometimes fails to result in Nov 29 02:46:12 a rebuild of the .ko, probably as a result of it not seeming out Nov 29 02:46:12 of date with respect to the other files. This fix works by Nov 29 02:46:13 explicitly removing the initial (too small) .ko and .mod.o Nov 29 02:46:27 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r2be4c1fa... 10/: nslu2-kernel: add maclist proc entry to 2.6.14.3 and 2.6.15-rc2 Nov 29 02:46:33 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rf7da4369... 10/: nslu2-kernel: change board setup to call maclist in 2.6.14.3, 2.6.15-rc2 Nov 29 02:46:39 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * re7056e4c... 10/: lbreakout: set SDL_CONFIG (see bug #500) Nov 29 02:46:44 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * r849f38b9... 10/: libsdl-mixer: set SDL_CONFIG (see bug #500) Nov 29 02:46:49 03frederic 07org.oe.dev * r6944e1f3... 10/: supertux: set SDL_CONFIG (see bug #500) Nov 29 02:46:54 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rdac65a99... 10/: Nov 29 02:46:55 hey richard Nov 29 02:46:56 ixp400-eth: change to use maclist MAC values in 1.5 Nov 29 02:46:58 ixp4xx-csr: remove single PHY configuration options in 2.1 Nov 29 02:54:01 hi all. Nov 29 02:54:18 I need to build a x86, what shall i do ? Nov 29 02:54:29 I am a freshman in oz Nov 29 02:54:50 First of all ,I think to set several keyt items in local.conf . would you give directions to me? Nov 29 02:55:04 =>MACHINE = "x86" | TARGET_ARCH = "i386" | DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4" | KERNEL_VERSION = "2.6" **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 29 02:59:56 2005