**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Nov 30 02:59:56 2005 Nov 30 04:10:42 * koen watches glibc do_package crawl by Nov 30 04:11:47 koen: I know the feeling... Nov 30 04:12:00 * RP wishes he had time for bitbake-mt Nov 30 04:12:17 luckily I only have to see it twice for my image run Nov 30 04:12:27 one for arm and one for armv5 Nov 30 04:13:05 I really need to sort out multi machine builds now I have a few devices... Nov 30 04:14:13 include multimachine.inc and have a script like this: http://pastebin.com/443381 Nov 30 04:15:35 koen: so your build have mixed pacakges? one for arm4, other for arm5? or each one for arm4 and arm5? Nov 30 04:16:51 bitbake doesn't know that armv5 can run armv4, so all those packages are duplicated Nov 30 04:17:25 ok Nov 30 04:18:20 so I end up with 2*needed packages instead of 7*needed packages Nov 30 04:18:42 in angstrom (when finally it starts) how much sa11xx machines we will get? collie/h3600/maybesimpad only? Nov 30 04:19:04 that would be my guess Nov 30 04:27:47 omg Nov 30 04:27:53 the nas200d costs a fortune Nov 30 04:28:39 hmm Nov 30 04:28:43 wrong channel :P Nov 30 04:34:26 NAiL: is that a ppc or armeb device? Nov 30 04:36:22 wtf? Nov 30 04:36:30 a p4 2ghz is a NAS?!?! Nov 30 04:37:07 heh Nov 30 04:37:08 yeah Nov 30 04:37:18 and it runs wintendo :P Nov 30 04:38:38 my god Nov 30 04:38:46 who whould think of that? Nov 30 04:39:21 if it didn't cost a fortune, it'd be interesting. But it costs waaay too much. You can build a box for 1/3rd of the price and get a better nas Nov 30 04:40:47 http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews/images/scrnshots/iomega_nas200d/iomega_200d_128M_read.png is a pretty interesting graph Nov 30 04:42:03 ooh Nov 30 04:42:28 the terastation looks interesting Nov 30 04:43:21 RP: I'm about to cc you on an alsa email. Nov 30 04:44:11 the terastation looks kinda like the Synology DS101g+ Nov 30 04:44:48 double ram, four P-ATA channels Nov 30 04:45:27 and doesn't appear to be sold in .no Nov 30 04:46:23 lrg|home: ok Nov 30 04:46:36 I'm looking for something to replace my 8x80GB raid 5 Nov 30 04:46:39 koen: Thanks for the updated script - I think I remember seeing one of your older ones :) Nov 30 04:46:51 after 2 years most fans are getting louder... Nov 30 04:46:58 koen: ah, in that case, the terastation looks nice Nov 30 04:47:12 I'm hoping to get my DS101 running soon Nov 30 04:47:48 RP: I'm thinking of expanding it for kernel 2.4/kernel 2.6 on multible machines Nov 30 04:48:01 but that will require some thought on how to handle that Nov 30 04:48:53 koen: yes. The different dependencies will make that tricky... Nov 30 04:49:44 I think you need an extra 'bitbake zaurus-updater (-c clean)' in that script Nov 30 04:50:25 where 'that' is the pastebin one Nov 30 04:52:43 LOL Nov 30 04:52:46 'Please, backup your /home/root/.xinitrc before installing wmaker-pdaxrom.' Nov 30 04:53:09 there is a good reason why packages shouldn't touch $HOME Nov 30 04:53:21 koen: user-friendliness roxx Nov 30 04:53:44 lrg|home: Has Giorgio had a change of heart about ASoC? Nov 30 04:54:04 lrg|home: I don't follow alsa-devel very closely :-/ Nov 30 04:56:16 RP: looks like it. He's submitting code that is teid to pxa2xx and not really platform independent :( Nov 30 04:56:40 Hi all Nov 30 04:57:07 RP: he has even re written Nico's pxa dma driver.. Nov 30 04:57:15 hi Dirk Nov 30 04:57:51 hi Marcin Nov 30 05:09:35 hi dirk Nov 30 05:10:04 lrg|home: At least it doesn't look destined for mainline. I'd like to know why he didn't use Nico's DMA code... Nov 30 05:10:54 RP: me too, although some one else did point that out to him on the list Nov 30 05:12:16 hi Richard, Liam Nov 30 05:12:44 hi Dirk Nov 30 05:13:07 wow.. I looked at KAutoBuild - all ARM machines have the same status Nov 30 05:17:59 hrw|work: -rc3 was a bit of a disaster for arm :) Nov 30 05:18:29 hrw|work: I'm hopeful the build after this will make the Zaurii look good though Nov 30 05:20:29 I see Nov 30 05:40:03 does oz354 with 2.6 kernel still need the 2.95 toolchain ? Nov 30 05:42:35 ade|desk: no Nov 30 05:44:39 RP: cheers Nov 30 05:58:15 ade|desk: IIRC, nothing w/ 2.6 kernels have ever needed 2.95... Nov 30 05:58:37 ~zauruskernels Nov 30 05:58:39 somebody said zauruskernels was By default Zaurus use 2.4.18 or 2.4.20 and you need GCC 2.95.3 to compile them - all is described in OE wiki: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels There is also work on 2.6: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels26 Nov 30 06:00:17 hrw|work: ... Nov 30 06:12:38 , Nov 30 06:17:13 omg, thought i'd try a build on an old system rather than my system and just leave it for a while, its taken 27mins just to parse 70% of the bbs Nov 30 06:17:52 might get an image sometime late december Nov 30 06:19:06 lol its a P2-400 Nov 30 06:19:25 wow.. p2/400.. Nov 30 06:19:38 friend builds familiar on such hardware... Nov 30 06:23:20 ade|desk: if you time it right you'll have a nice christmas present ;) Nov 30 06:23:55 fwiw, I use OE on a 266MHz armv5eb cpu Nov 30 06:24:00 that's slooooooow Nov 30 06:32:02 lol missing "/" in local.conf for DL_DIR , and reparsing again Nov 30 06:40:04 for monotone-challenged people: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/org.openembedded.oz354fam083-20051130.tar.bz2 Nov 30 06:42:37 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rad0e8641... 10/: simpad.conf: apply 2.4/2.6 selector from .dev Nov 30 06:48:43 I currently try to write the metainfo for a hardware Nov 30 06:48:57 ic have written the machine file and now writing the descripton for the kernel Nov 30 06:49:23 when I try du make 'bitbake bootstrap-image' bitbake gives me the following output Nov 30 06:49:30 http://pastebin.com/443484 Nov 30 06:49:50 the machine configuration is called coolfox-II.conf Nov 30 06:50:15 http://pastebin.com/443487 Nov 30 06:50:43 an the kernel .bb file is called coolfox-II-kernel_2.4.27.bb Nov 30 06:56:40 Cobelius: you were missing and R : http://pastebin.com/443494 Nov 30 06:58:33 hey Nov 30 06:59:01 ahh i c Nov 30 06:59:02 thank you Nov 30 07:03:33 I guess it's time I have a go at creating a machine as well Nov 30 07:04:15 machine.conf? Nov 30 07:06:44 koen: ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/tmp/pcourse.pdf ;) Nov 30 07:07:17 hey zecke Nov 30 07:09:05 * koen wonders why opie-image needs uicmoc3 Nov 30 07:09:40 koen: translations, opie-lupdate and lrelease are Qt3 apps Nov 30 07:10:00 but qt3 is too slow!!! Nov 30 07:10:09 and gpl is about open source!!!! Nov 30 07:10:31 koen: this is why we run it on your überfast desktop qtopia gadget Nov 30 07:10:39 Nov 30 07:11:11 koen: luckily we don't need to talk about Miguel's, Ximian's and RedHat FUD's Nov 30 07:11:18 heh Nov 30 07:11:41 zecke: nice pdf.. Nov 30 07:11:49 I wonder if Miguel drops out of the GNOME Foundation Board... Nov 30 07:11:50 Ximian Mexico is pretty cool Nov 30 07:12:11 koen: they have an office there? Nov 30 07:12:12 they gave me pizza :) Nov 30 07:12:22 zecke: yes Nov 30 07:13:14 the front: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/Gallery/MexicoGulev2005/IMG_1785 and inside: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/Gallery/MexicoGulev2005/IMG_1784 Nov 30 07:14:01 koen: well they should have given you nachos Nov 30 07:14:25 koen: hmm doesn't look too beautiful Nov 30 07:14:27 hey.. Koen has a Canon digital camera.. which model? Nov 30 07:14:31 koen: but pizza sounds good ;) Nov 30 07:14:52 TyggerBob: those pictures were made with a ixus 400 Nov 30 07:15:11 TyggerBob: as the exif beneath the picture says ;) Nov 30 07:15:32 Ahh.. uses the same file format as the Canon Nov 30 07:15:32 koen: I do not think your QtE criticism is valid (most of the time) you should try it with Qtopia Nov 30 07:15:48 koen: there are so many contradictions you could attack Nov 30 07:16:33 I don't think a 400MHz vga machine with 4GB of diskspace is embedded Nov 30 07:16:50 koen: maybe implanted in the future Nov 30 07:16:54 ergo qt is the right choice for that, not qt/e Nov 30 07:17:18 Doh, the ixus is a Canon.. Nov 30 07:17:21 :) Nov 30 07:17:33 hmmm, new version of monotone out Nov 30 07:17:50 * koen will wait for monotone 0.25 Nov 30 07:19:00 nice shots, koen Nov 30 07:19:18 speaking about qt/e... I still dont know does it have working font substitutions.. manual say that it has but all tests fails Nov 30 07:19:22 my tests Nov 30 07:23:50 hrw|work: hmm not something as powerful as fontconfig Nov 30 07:24:26 zecke: all I want is 'give me first monospaced when I request monospaced' Nov 30 07:24:49 zecke: without it we have fscked opie-console or have to supply 'fixed' font Nov 30 07:25:26 hrw|work: definately it can not do that Nov 30 07:25:45 well 'fix' it by calling monospaced fixed Nov 30 07:25:56 fonts are fluff Nov 30 07:26:06 lets remove them to get a lean and mean opie again Nov 30 07:27:57 koen: Maemo is crap it can not run on my eight segment display Nov 30 07:28:07 :) Nov 30 07:28:34 'some parts are more opensource than others' Nov 30 07:28:51 hrw|work: qfontdatabase.cpp looks pretty dumb to me (without Xft) Nov 30 07:30:10 ERROR: log data follows (/home/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/work/arm-linux/opie-aboutapplet-1.2.1-r1/temp/log.do_patchcmd.29485) Nov 30 07:30:13 | Importing patch /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/opie-aboutapplet/./add-hrw-to-authors.patch (stored as add-hrw-to-authors.patch) Nov 30 07:30:16 | cp: cannot stat `/home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/opie-aboutapplet/./add-hrw-to-authors.patch': No such file or directory Nov 30 07:30:19 | Failed to import patch add-hrw-to-authors.patch Nov 30 07:30:20 hrw|work: could you add that patch? Nov 30 07:33:07 forgot? argh... Nov 30 07:35:03 will add (have to pull branch first) Nov 30 07:39:44 monotone is slow Nov 30 07:39:58 * chouimat goes do something while waiting Nov 30 07:44:13 wb koen|uni Nov 30 07:44:34 koen|uni: pushed to ewi Nov 30 07:44:40 hrw|work: ok Nov 30 07:45:52 starting the build again Nov 30 07:48:48 crap, I forgot to bring a notebook Nov 30 07:49:03 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8eb564cd... 10/: opie-aboutapplet: added forgotten patch Nov 30 07:50:19 added opie-notes to branch Nov 30 08:06:11 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2067f589... 10/: opie-notes: added 0.4 and CVS Nov 30 08:16:19 hi Nov 30 08:16:51 i have a patch which fixes a build failure for gcc-cross Nov 30 08:17:10 or - to be more accurate - an install failure Nov 30 08:17:11 attach it to the bugtracker Nov 30 08:17:59 obi: please use bugs.openembedded.org ;) Nov 30 08:18:17 obi: will you be at the 22c3? Nov 30 08:18:57 maybe, i don't know yet Nov 30 08:20:56 wouldn't it be easier to send the patch to somebody who already has a bugtracker login? :) Nov 30 08:21:10 it's a one liner Nov 30 08:22:15 http://saftware.de/patches/gcc-package-cross.inc.diff Nov 30 08:22:42 libgcc_s.so.* is moved to ${D}${target_base_libdir} some lines above that Nov 30 08:23:25 obi: well mail me ;) Nov 30 08:23:58 obi: well I guess thank you ;) Nov 30 08:24:32 :-) Nov 30 08:26:28 obi: I will need to get home before I can push this change Nov 30 08:26:57 no problem, i think the bug was there for years Nov 30 08:29:05 Are students also pay the fee like a pupil? Nov 30 08:29:11 Or do they have to pay the normal fee? Nov 30 08:29:15 cu Nov 30 08:29:49 Cobelius: which fee? Nov 30 08:29:58 Cobelius: I think we pay the normal fee at 22c3 Nov 30 08:30:13 Cobelius: even disabled/handicapped get no discount Nov 30 08:30:26 so the 75 euro Nov 30 08:35:36 or you could join the club ;) Nov 30 08:37:03 http://www.trolltech.com/company/careers/brisbane.html#position1 Nov 30 08:37:14 Who wants to be the "International World LEader" Nov 30 08:43:43 zecke: sound like a very demanding job ... Nov 30 08:47:38 hello. i just got an OE.db snapshot (couldn't get monotone to work on my box). I'm trying to patch a package, besides bitbake , what else do i need, and how do i apply a patch ? Nov 30 08:55:12 NOTE: package opie-image-1.0-r19: task do_rootfs: started Nov 30 08:55:22 it's working again for h3600 Nov 30 08:55:57 * ade|desk grumbles something about autoconf needing something from emacs to configure ..grrr Nov 30 08:57:11 koen|uni: http://www.trolltech.com/company/careers/brisbane.html#position1 Nov 30 08:57:26 koen|uni: take that ;) Nov 30 08:57:43 are there any tar.gz snapshots of OE ? Nov 30 08:58:08 zecke: heh - you made it sound like a threat... :) Nov 30 08:58:34 CosmicPenguin: use your imagination, koen as a world leader paid by Trolltech Nov 30 08:58:40 ;) Nov 30 08:58:46 muhahahahaha Nov 30 08:59:04 CSMan: you want a tar.gz of the current checkout? Nov 30 08:59:18 And the KDE world shivers in fear Nov 30 08:59:54 zecke: i have a problem with the latest monotone (the one that connects) with freebsd 5.4 , so i can't install that version. Nov 30 09:00:03 CosmicPenguin: Ximian/Novell should have bought Trolltech ;) Nov 30 09:00:10 I'm trying to install a ready package, and work with a downloaded .db snapshot Nov 30 09:00:18 i guess that'll be a workaround Nov 30 09:00:21 CSMan: I can't follow you, sorry Nov 30 09:00:31 zecke: heh - that would have been scary. Remember the last time a company from Utah had that much power? Nov 30 09:00:53 CosmicPenguin: no Nov 30 09:00:58 I'm too young for that Nov 30 09:01:37 atm, i can only get monotone 0.16 Nov 30 09:01:53 CSMan: My FreeBSD has monotone .23 from the ports Nov 30 09:02:04 zecke: 5.4 ? Nov 30 09:02:29 CSMan: yes but 'current' ports Nov 30 09:02:35 ah Nov 30 09:02:44 CSMan: and the static monotone 0.22 worked too Nov 30 09:02:50 i'm using RELEASE Nov 30 09:03:08 zecke: but again, from 'current' Nov 30 09:03:25 CSMan: building using OE on FreeBSD is still troublesome though Nov 30 09:03:57 ok, i'll switch to native. hopefully there is some monotone ipkg Nov 30 09:04:16 CSMan: http://www.venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone-0.20-freebsd4.11-x86.bz2 Nov 30 09:05:27 k, thanks Nov 30 09:07:53 RELEASE is 6.0 now ... 5.4 is legacy 4.11 is even more legacy current is 7.0 iirc Nov 30 09:08:28 chouimat: right Nov 30 09:09:40 try to understand why his old p200mmx doesn want to get updated this morning ... it's just a test box and my second dns but I like when it works Nov 30 09:12:49 RP: some good news. audio pm is now working. just cleaning up now. ac97 is also supported so tosa support should be trivial Nov 30 09:15:12 chouimat: it's nice to work with legacy hardware =) Nov 30 09:17:42 HAH! this old monotone doesn't have a checkout command =| Nov 30 09:18:00 nm Nov 30 09:18:17 * CSMan is delussional this morning. Nov 30 09:19:00 CSMan: I'm confident it does have one ;) Nov 30 09:19:38 yeah, i think i'm trying not in the right order (makes me remember trying to ls path/to/this -rtl in freebsd =P Nov 30 09:24:36 zecke: thanks for the link. monotone 0.16 is definitely OLD Nov 30 09:27:29 right Nov 30 09:27:39 cvsup ports-cvsupfile ;) Nov 30 09:30:55 CSMan: yup ... Nov 30 09:32:10 zecke: i tried that, i tried portupgrade, and i tried portmanager. The dependency icu fails to build. Nov 30 09:33:28 anyway, i checked out the snapshot, i can't find minimo in it =( Nov 30 09:33:49 found it =P Nov 30 09:34:18 but it's empty =| Nov 30 09:34:41 maybe it's here when i should checkout from mozilla.org, right ? Nov 30 09:39:05 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rc4da1177... 10/: Nov 30 09:39:07 boost-jam-native: release 3.1.11 Nov 30 09:39:09 boost: release 1.33.0 Nov 30 09:39:22 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rebcf7913... 10/: monotone-5: release 0.24 Nov 30 09:45:40 lrg|home: I've never dared hope for pm sound support :) Nov 30 09:45:46 that is great news... Nov 30 09:47:05 ~hail lrg|home Nov 30 09:47:07 * ibot bows down to lrg|home and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Nov 30 09:47:14 RP: i've only tested against ac97 as my i2c setup is a little flakey when the power is switched, but it should work with i2c codecs. Nov 30 09:47:27 lrg|home: We'll soon find out ;-) Nov 30 09:57:47 lrg|home: Where is the patch? :) Nov 30 09:58:23 do13: I'm just cleaning up. Give me about 2 hrs (I've also got some support todo) Nov 30 09:58:45 incinerator: going to xmas meal tomorrow ? Nov 30 09:59:12 hi liam, yes I will Nov 30 09:59:25 incinerator: see you there Nov 30 10:00:05 incinerator: what pda do you have ? Nov 30 10:00:28 Zaurus SL-860, shepherd? boxer? Nov 30 10:00:54 and a Palm Tungsten T3, as well Nov 30 10:01:37 incinerator: can you bring them tomorrow night. Nov 30 10:01:50 Sure, can do Nov 30 10:01:57 cool Nov 30 10:02:11 However, I have cacko running on the zaurus atm Nov 30 10:02:28 and palm os on the T3, the Linux port hasn't progressed that far, yet... Nov 30 10:02:48 any extra gear I should bring along? wifi card etc.? Nov 30 10:03:29 noclouds, I just want a look at the SL-860. thanks Nov 30 10:03:43 oops wrong person Nov 30 10:04:20 ah ok Nov 30 10:05:05 lrg|home: Thats ok. I have to leave for 3 hrs. Thanks. Nov 30 10:05:42 do13: I'll do the touch pm tomorrow Nov 30 10:07:55 lrg|home: ok Nov 30 10:16:06 anyone having problems building a gpe image from .dev? Nov 30 10:16:22 I keep getting problems with the orinoco-0.15 modules Nov 30 10:20:59 rehi Nov 30 10:21:21 <_law_> i have updated to .dev git3 kernel now i get this: mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version Nov 30 10:21:24 <_law_> any ideas Nov 30 10:21:35 <_law_> sd doesnt work Nov 30 10:23:52 _law_: Did that card used to work? Nov 30 10:24:50 <_law_> RP: with kernel 2.6.14-rc2 it worked Nov 30 10:25:33 _law_: I'd try the -rc2 kernel and see if that fixes it... Nov 30 10:26:06 _law_: sd works here (on -rc2) Nov 30 10:26:18 <_law_> RP: i know :-( Nov 30 10:44:43 bye Nov 30 11:15:58 <_law_> sound also doesnt work :-( Nov 30 11:16:14 <_law_> which soundmodule do i need for my sl-760c? Nov 30 11:16:35 _law_: The wm8731 one Nov 30 11:19:14 _law_: I'm starting to make sound module selection more automatic i.e. it depends on your selected machine Nov 30 11:20:01 what is the importance of the oe.db file? Nov 30 11:20:21 <_law_> whats kernel-module-snd-soc-wm8731-2.6_2.6.14-git3-r6_c7x0.ipk ? Nov 30 11:20:24 <_law_> soc? Nov 30 11:21:06 _law_, SoC = System on Chip, it's the sound driver for the wm8731 codec Nov 30 11:21:08 SystemOnaChip Nov 30 11:21:27 <_law_> so i need both? Nov 30 11:21:36 yes, Nov 30 11:21:38 <_law_> kernel-module-snd-soc-wm8731-2.6_2.6.14-git3-r6_c7x0.ipk kernel-module-wm8731-2.6_2.6.14-git3-r6_c7x0.ipk Nov 30 11:22:43 _law_, you may want to wait until ASoC 0.8 is released later today. RP will the add it to the kernel. Nov 30 11:23:53 _law_: You'll need most of the snd modules the kernel builds Nov 30 11:24:25 _law_: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/inssound is a good hints file :) Nov 30 11:24:26 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8b8aeff1... 10/: gpe-session-scripts 0.66: remove fontfix patches since we're going to use 100DPI in the release Nov 30 11:29:21 hi Nov 30 11:29:23 lrg|home: I'm off out for a while - I'll put any patches on the server when I see them though Nov 30 11:29:32 cheers Nov 30 11:32:40 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r51fcedab... 10/: Nov 30 11:32:42 xserver-common: set dpi to 100 for every device because most programs assume 96 dpi Nov 30 11:32:44 ~lart stupid assumptions Nov 30 11:32:45 * ibot strangles stupid assumptions with a 9-pole serial cable Nov 30 11:33:12 koen: thks for archive :) Nov 30 11:33:27 how long does monotone --pull typically take? Nov 30 11:35:42 from scratch? Nov 30 11:37:55 <_law_> will there be an sd support again? Nov 30 11:42:48 i downloaded the OE.db.bz2 file, checked out org.openembedded.dev Nov 30 11:44:11 in that case a few minutes Nov 30 12:13:53 <_law_> is there an mmc db anywhere on my Z? an other mmc works and on my collie both work fine? Nov 30 12:13:57 <_law_> mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version Nov 30 12:15:11 good evening Nov 30 12:15:21 <_law_> hi mickeyl Nov 30 12:15:58 hey mickeyl Nov 30 12:25:05 I'm a bit disappointed about the lack of dyntick impact. Perhaps we're still doing something wrong? Nov 30 12:35:40 mickeyl: good evening Nov 30 12:35:53 <_law_> is the sd card stuff direct in kernel or a module? Nov 30 12:36:32 hi pb_ , mickeyl Nov 30 12:36:37 _law_: which device/kernel ? Nov 30 12:36:38 _law_: kernel, you can have root on sd Nov 30 12:37:02 hi gremlin[it] Nov 30 12:37:09 <_law_> mickeyl: husky/2.6.14 Nov 30 12:37:22 <_law_> koen: no module ? Nov 30 12:38:00 defconfig-c7x0:CONFIG_MMC=y Nov 30 12:38:17 <_law_> mickeyl: thanks Nov 30 12:38:21 np Nov 30 12:38:50 koen is right, we may want to have root on sd and that needs an initrd or sd support built in the kernel Nov 30 12:42:30 <_law_> with 2.6.14-rc1 my sd?s (both) work wih 2.4.16-git3 only one works :-( Nov 30 12:44:07 sounds like a timing issue. any information in dmesg? Nov 30 12:50:16 <_law_> mickeyl: mmc0: unrecognised SCR structure version Nov 30 13:06:05 Im recieving an error when attempting bitbake. Can i safely ignore this? (conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf:7: unparsed line: '"${@bb.fatal('This file is unmaintained in the org.oe.dev branch, use the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch instead Nov 30 13:07:35 mickeyl: Download done. Nov 30 13:07:48 do13: k Nov 30 13:08:30 jt_dnb: this error message is pretty self explanatory, don't you think? Nov 30 13:10:13 mickeyl: Funny japanese characters:) Btw Now I have an own expansion jacket. Nov 30 13:10:52 do13: ah excellent! :) Nov 30 13:18:37 <_law_> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=506 Nov 30 13:20:30 How do I use the oz354fam083 branch? Nov 30 13:21:03 and will this work for hx4700's as well? Nov 30 13:24:07 <_law_> jt_dnb: check it out and change your local.conf Nov 30 13:27:00 Howdy. Can I use OE to cross compile for a PPC device? Nov 30 13:27:27 I think so Nov 30 13:28:15 it should work for PPC, the question is, has anyone done it yet Nov 30 13:29:02 I see some PPC targets in distro/machine Nov 30 13:29:03 abrewer, do you know what a lite5200 is? Nov 30 13:29:04 greg72 did work for powerpc Nov 30 13:29:12 and linksys routers are powerpc Nov 30 13:29:16 There is a machine file for that Nov 30 13:29:44 koen|bar, are you using a 770 in the bar? Nov 30 13:30:10 Crofton_|laptop: no, my powerbook in the meetingroom above it Nov 30 13:30:19 ah Nov 30 13:33:04 lite5200 looks interesting. like you said, has someone done the port??? Nov 30 13:33:39 well, I would set up local.conf to build for that machine Nov 30 13:33:50 and see what you get from bitbake bootstrap-image Nov 30 13:34:19 no maintainer listed for the file Nov 30 13:34:30 can you have MAINTAINER in machine files? Nov 30 13:34:44 Crofton_|laptop: sure Nov 30 13:37:34 looks like I'll be giving this a go in few weeks. I see all the kernel support for my particular device is there... Nov 30 13:37:49 that is a good start Nov 30 13:38:23 i'm no kernel stud, so you can imagine how relieved i was! looks like freescale has quite a few people contributing. Nov 30 13:38:28 http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=Lite5200&parentCode=MPC5200&nodeId=0162468rH3bTdG0898# Nov 30 13:38:52 you can always copy from other files Nov 30 13:39:01 i already had that link open (-; Nov 30 13:39:04 that is how I got the OSK kernel going Nov 30 13:39:05 heh Nov 30 13:39:13 OSK? Nov 30 13:39:43 OMAP starter kit Nov 30 13:40:25 that's a TI thing? Nov 30 13:40:31 yeah Nov 30 13:40:37 ARM + DSP Nov 30 13:41:10 OE is a pain, until you start to get how it is working Nov 30 13:41:19 the guys here are pretty hepful Nov 30 13:42:27 it is quite a hill to get the hang of it. Nov 30 13:42:48 are there any decent royalty-free alternatives? Nov 30 13:42:58 dunno Nov 30 13:43:09 I figured out oe :) Nov 30 13:43:21 * CosmicPenguin bits his tounge Nov 30 13:43:39 (-; i like the gentoo portage system, but seems like embedded work still lags OE. Nov 30 13:43:42 Geode's are better! Nov 30 13:43:47 heh Nov 30 13:44:11 Geodes are different - saying they're better then OMAP is a bit of a stretch Nov 30 13:44:23 I meant better than a PPC :) Nov 30 13:44:28 We like the MPC 82xx series. fast, gigE... we don't care about DSP though. Nov 30 13:44:29 well duh Nov 30 13:44:57 we care about the low power stuff Nov 30 13:45:02 and low power. we looked at the geode. they came in second. Nov 30 13:45:13 heh Nov 30 13:45:15 Good to know we were in the top three Nov 30 13:45:21 unless of course, you only evaluated two Nov 30 13:45:40 CosmicPenguin is at amd.com :) Nov 30 13:46:16 we looked at five, as i recall: fsl, amd, intel, and two other i can't remember. SOC stuff. Nov 30 13:46:25 via? Nov 30 13:46:33 probably. Nov 30 13:46:35 sweet Nov 30 13:46:53 * CosmicPenguin savors the small victories Nov 30 13:46:53 <_law_> whats the difference between depends and rdepends? Nov 30 13:46:57 intel was last (-; Nov 30 13:46:59 amd, always seconf to someone :) Nov 30 13:47:05 er second Nov 30 13:47:12 Crofton_|laptop: so that means you're gonna send back your opteron box? Nov 30 13:47:14 depends is for build time Nov 30 13:47:19 athlon Nov 30 13:47:24 we are cheap :( Nov 30 13:47:28 athlon64 though Nov 30 13:47:30 right? Nov 30 13:47:31 yeah Nov 30 13:47:56 I told the boss I needed to see if our stuff runs on a 64 bit machine Nov 30 13:47:58 :) Nov 30 13:48:10 thanks guys, see ya around. Nov 30 13:48:16 _law_, RDEPENDS is for runtime Nov 30 13:48:19 _law_: build depends and Runtime depends Nov 30 13:48:32 RDEPENDS is for anything shlibs code doesn't pick up Nov 30 13:48:42 wow, direct user support right from the bar Nov 30 13:48:45 RDEPENDS should be a subset of depends Nov 30 13:48:53 Thats dedication Nov 30 13:49:08 I should indeed move down to the actual bar instead of the office Nov 30 13:49:18 yeah Nov 30 13:49:20 grrr Nov 30 13:49:31 I need to go work on "other peoples code" Nov 30 13:49:40 * Crofton_|laptop hates "other peoples code" Nov 30 13:49:41 Other people suck Nov 30 13:55:26 mickeyl: hello. I think dyntick is only going to make a difference on the pxa27x devices Nov 30 13:58:57 not on pxa255? Nov 30 13:59:06 * koen|bar looks at his h2210 Nov 30 14:00:21 RP: i see Nov 30 14:01:07 koen|bar: I don't think the pxa255 has a useful idle mode? Nov 30 14:01:33 We'll soon find out on the pxa27x when I test it. The high suspend current worries me though Nov 30 14:01:49 I also think I know why Sharp limited the backlight values - power consumption Nov 30 14:02:33 How can I obtain a bleeding-edge gpe-image for the hx4700 with openembedded? Nov 30 14:05:48 RP: what do you consider to be a "useful idle mode"? Nov 30 14:06:40 pb_: I suspect the fact you're asking the question means I'm confused :) Nov 30 14:07:49 heh. well, not necessarily, but the pxa255 certainly does have an idle mode and I can't immediately think of any reason why it'd be useless. Nov 30 14:08:43 I think the power consumption of the idle mode on the pxa270 is better than the pxa255 and hence dyntick might have more of an effect? Nov 30 14:10:12 That might be true, but even on the pxa255 idle mode is significantly better (by about a factor of four from what I remember) than active mode. Nov 30 14:10:40 So, I'd kind of expect that you would see at least some measurable difference on those devices. Nov 30 14:10:50 http://monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn/index.psp is giving me an error message Nov 30 14:12:08