**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 04 02:59:57 2005 Dec 04 03:25:07 morning all Dec 04 03:25:11 hi rp Dec 04 03:36:30 <_law_> hi RP Dec 04 03:50:42 <_law_> does anyone else have sd card problems with newer linux kernels? Dec 04 03:54:12 _law_: They read my SD and mmc cards ok... Dec 04 03:56:02 <_law_> RP: hmm with 2.6.14-rc1 my sd work, after that it doesn work again :-( where there any big changes in mmc/sd kernel stuff? Dec 04 03:59:01 _law_: I think there have been lots of small ones Dec 04 03:59:15 If you can isolate the change that breaks it, that would help Dec 04 03:59:55 <_law_> RP: how :-) Dec 04 04:00:49 Look over the linux kernel patches for mmc/sd changes, reverse those changes on your kernel tree, see if it helps Dec 04 04:07:50 <_law_> RP: ok, is there any tool to see all changes from rc1 to git3 ? any git webview like viewcvs? Dec 04 04:13:37 _law_: www.kernel.org/git - look at the torvalds-2.6 tree Dec 04 05:00:09 * pb_ stabs debian Dec 04 05:00:29 seems that if you do "/etc/init.d/courier-imap restart", it happily prints "Restarting courier-imap: done", but... doesn't actually restart anything. Dec 04 06:45:57 Good morning, all Dec 04 07:04:07 =) Dec 04 07:04:36 guys, i'm trying to bitbake nano, but it goes through parsing 2906/2906 files everytime i restart Dec 04 07:04:44 is there any way to speed up things ? Dec 04 07:04:53 BBMASK apparently Dec 04 07:05:06 You can also specifiy which bb file to process Dec 04 07:09:14 yeah, i remember trying that but it failed because i didn't have quilt in freebsd Dec 04 07:09:29 so i tried to bitbake autonconf-native Dec 04 07:09:53 hmm Dec 04 07:09:56 because of the --exclude flag Dec 04 07:10:17 quilt is one of the first things it tries to build? Dec 04 07:11:35 yeah Dec 04 07:12:12 I don't know what the consequneces of not having quilt are Dec 04 07:14:11 i hope they added autoconf with --exclude in 0.8.3 Dec 04 07:14:16 * CSMan installs automake Dec 04 07:15:04 all that stuff just works for me thankfully Dec 04 07:15:32 building a specific file works good once you have all the dependecies etc built Dec 04 07:15:42 and are just working on one particular build Dec 04 07:21:17 now i have to bitbake autoconf-native Dec 04 07:21:24 because of that flag Dec 04 07:21:37 that's where i got stuck with freebsd i think Dec 04 07:21:48 so, i'm trying natively Dec 04 07:24:57 It sounds like you are trying to do something the hard way .... Dec 04 07:26:04 well, i don't have too much power in the desktop Dec 04 07:26:41 parsing all those files take like 40 mins in the desktop and 7 times more in the pda Dec 04 07:26:53 ouch Dec 04 07:27:04 what PDA u have ? Dec 04 07:27:20 i wonder if it takes seconds with a pentium 4 machine Dec 04 07:27:29 running OE on a pda is impressive Dec 04 07:27:29 an H5550 Dec 04 07:27:39 it still takes a few minutes on P$ Dec 04 07:27:43 er p4 Dec 04 07:27:52 why is that process so slow Dec 04 07:28:39 i don't think gentoo's emerge take that long to even start building Dec 04 07:30:45 imho i think the way freebsd handles building apps is very efficient Dec 04 07:30:58 ports in this case Dec 04 07:31:31 on my athlon64 2.0GHz take few minutes ... less the 5 surelly specially if isn't the first time they was checked Dec 04 07:49:14 NOTE: package autoconf-native-2.59-r3: task do_patch: started Dec 04 07:49:14 NOTE: Applying patch 'program_prefix.patch' Dec 04 07:49:14 ERROR: function do_patchcmd failed Dec 04 08:10:01 morning Dec 04 08:39:42 Hello, I am trying to compile some thing which should compile, but I get the error: main.c: (.text+0x26c): undefined reference to `sendCommand' --- I googled for it and some people say it is an error in the compiler. Is that true ? how can I fix the problem ? thank you Dec 04 10:15:21 Good evening. Dec 04 10:56:33 it looks like without quilt i can't do anything. Dec 04 11:38:07 do you know where can i find getopt ? Dec 04 11:38:16 i need it for bitbake /o\ Dec 04 11:39:13 i can only find a perl module Dec 04 11:50:13 heh, i found one in 0.8.2 Dec 04 11:50:17 (familiar) Dec 04 11:57:36 RP: I'm back, BT has experienced some adsl problems locally. I've almost got a working dpm for suspend resume. I'm going to get something to eat now , back in an hour or so. Dec 04 12:02:23 i suggest that bitbake makes a config check to see if you have ALL the tools installed before proceeding at all. Dec 04 12:02:43 Which tools? Dec 04 12:03:57 gawk, getopt, TILT Dec 04 12:05:30 What are those used for? I don't remember bitbake depending on gawk or getopt. Dec 04 12:05:43 try bitbaking autoconf-native Dec 04 12:05:45 I'm not sure I even know what TILT is. Dec 04 12:05:52 sorry, quilt Dec 04 12:05:55 not tilt. Dec 04 12:06:07 oh, right. Dec 04 12:06:18 bitbake should build quilt (or patcher, whichever you selected) for itself. Dec 04 12:06:37 yeah, i found one in familiar's feed Dec 04 12:06:51 but I need autconf-native because of the --exclude flag Dec 04 12:07:58 I see Dec 04 12:08:22 well, if autoconf-native does need gawk and getopt, adding a check for those to bitbake.conf sounds like a fine idea. Dec 04 12:08:38 does it actually need to be gawk, or will any awk do? Dec 04 12:08:39 bitbake -b ../org.openembedded.dev/packages/autoconf/autoconf-native_2.59.bb : attempt #14 Dec 04 12:08:57 <[lala]> hi Dec 04 12:09:07 <[lala]> there seems to be a problem with module-init-tools Dec 04 12:09:34 <[lala]> bitbake thinks that module-init-tools_3.2-pre4.bb ist newer than module-init-tools_3.2.1.bb Dec 04 12:09:41 <[lala]> any idea why? Dec 04 12:10:22 that does sound like a bug. Dec 04 12:10:36 what does bbread report for PV, PR, and DEFAULT_PREFERENCE in the two cases? Dec 04 12:11:32 it also needs quilt Dec 04 12:12:05 like I say, it will build that one for itself (and you can elect to use patcher instead). Dec 04 12:13:59 <[lala]> for pre4: PV="3.2-pre4", PR="r0" Dec 04 12:14:38 <[lala]> for 3.2.1: PV="3.2.1", PR="r0" Dec 04 12:15:19 <[lala]> default_preference ist not set Dec 04 12:16:19 pb_: where do you set you can use patcher? Dec 04 12:17:24 INHERIT += "patcher" Dec 04 12:18:27 that in conf/local.conf? Dec 04 12:18:31 yes Dec 04 12:18:54 [lala]: mm, right. "-" sorts later than ".", so that behaviour is expected (if not entirely intuitive) Dec 04 12:19:16 | perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libperl.so.5: undefined symbol: __umodsi3 Dec 04 12:19:24 sh1t Dec 04 12:19:52 <[lala]> pb_: then someone should fix default_preference parameter in 3.2.1 Dec 04 12:19:54 i guess i'll go try again on the desktop. Dec 04 12:19:58 oh, hm, actually, "-" should sort earlier than "." according to my computer. Dec 04 12:20:29 I guess you'd need to take that up with Coremaster Zecke or some similar luminary. Dec 04 12:20:52 <[lala]> since pre4 is hardly available on any mirrors module-intit-tools won't be built anymore Dec 04 12:21:20 that is unfortunate Dec 04 12:21:31 <[lala]> well, i will ask someone tomorrow morning Dec 04 12:21:44 good plan Dec 04 12:21:48 <[lala]> :) Dec 04 12:23:20 http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/familiar/279/27919.html Dec 04 12:25:08 <[lala]> oh there is a bugreport already (#498), thats good Dec 04 12:25:50 * CSMan installs zecke's ipk Dec 04 12:26:37 i wonder how much will things speed up if a stick some flash storage Dec 04 12:27:13 unfortunately any of those flash cards double the price of any usb stick (which are more valuable) Dec 04 12:30:44 CSMan: upgrade your perl Dec 04 12:31:44 working on that ( http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed/perl_5.8.7-r14_arm.ipk ) =) Dec 04 12:32:53 don't forget to update libperl too Dec 04 12:33:03 koen|tv: how come you guys chose something like bitbake instead of adapting debian's apt-get Dec 04 12:33:27 (hmmm, i think apt-get doesn't build anything) Dec 04 12:43:32 libc6 (>= 2.3.5+cvs20050627) libgcc1 (>= 3.4.4) Dec 04 12:43:38 this is getting odd. Dec 04 12:43:58 i guess you cannot go to far with a basic familiar installation. Dec 04 12:44:17 you need unstable feeds Dec 04 13:02:09 Ciao all Dec 04 13:20:40 hi pigi Dec 04 13:21:17 hi pb_ ! it's a long time.... how things are going ? Dec 04 13:23:14 Pigi: good, thanks. how are things with you? Dec 04 13:23:31 a bit tired, but well, thanks. Dec 04 13:30:22 bbl Dec 04 13:30:27 * Pigi is away: I'm busy Dec 04 13:31:45 if anybody has some free time , please help me to get this working Dec 04 13:31:47 http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=404 Dec 04 13:32:23 if somebody gets that atmelwlandriver ipk patched and ready to install, it'd be so much appreciated. thanks. Dec 04 13:36:00 hi Dec 04 13:36:46 #15 : failed. Dec 04 13:39:28 RP: you have new mail :-( Dec 04 13:39:45 Mardy: I was just reading that... Dec 04 13:39:56 Mardy: Have you tried this code on your desktop? Dec 04 13:40:13 no, I don't have the uinput module Dec 04 13:41:35 Mardy: I'd try and get it working on your desktop first... Dec 04 13:42:14 ok, time to upgrade the kernel :-) Dec 04 13:43:34 Mardy: what crosstool are you using ? Dec 04 13:44:00 Mardy: I might have some example code you can use for uinput... Dec 04 13:45:14 CSMan: bitbake Dec 04 13:45:21 * CSMan runs Dec 04 13:45:29 Mardy: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/tsemu.c Dec 04 13:45:33 #16 : failed. Dec 04 13:45:57 compiles, runs, isn't useful but might give you ideas Dec 04 13:47:01 RP: thanks Dec 04 13:47:09 does it run on the Z., too? Dec 04 13:48:02 Mardy: I've never tried to be honest. If it runs on the desktop but not the Z, we have a problem... Dec 04 13:49:06 # 17 Dec 04 13:50:56 : failed. Dec 04 13:51:52 CSMan: what are you building? Dec 04 13:52:42 nano (laughs) Dec 04 13:52:55 natively (shrugs) Dec 04 13:53:19 i better install all those perl modules. Dec 04 13:54:54 the thing is how do i fetch them all Dec 04 14:53:53 * Pigi is back (gone 01:23:26) Dec 04 14:58:42 nite all Dec 04 15:22:08 hi ljp Dec 04 17:19:16 * chouimat is away: TV Dec 04 18:35:07 morning all, is anyone else having errors ;ike this? "exceptions.NameError:name 'base_set_filespath'" Dec 04 18:40:31 all fix don't worry Dec 04 19:15:44 * chouimat is back. Dec 05 00:56:58 good morning Dec 05 00:57:56 If you were a bag of screws, where would you hide? Dec 05 00:58:09 alan|laptop: BTW, sorry for lack of updates on oz-ljr :( Dec 05 00:58:54 luke-jr_: hi ! cool to see you :) Dec 05 00:59:26 don't worry about oz-ljr, i don't have much time to spend on my Z those days Dec 05 01:00:00 neither do I :/ Dec 05 01:00:04 not useful w/o WiFi Dec 05 01:00:22 i will have one for christmass ^^ Dec 05 01:00:28 hm? Dec 05 01:00:41 I have a wifi card... just the only network is my own Dec 05 01:01:08 tho it'd be nice to get that new Sprint stuff Dec 05 01:01:28 what Sprint stuff ? Dec 05 01:01:29 it supports sticking a WiFi router in your car's cig lighter and get instant WiFi anywhere Dec 05 01:01:34 via cell towers Dec 05 01:01:43 like $50/mo Dec 05 01:01:43 wow... Dec 05 01:01:48 ouch Dec 05 01:01:53 not too ouch Dec 05 01:01:57 it's broadband speeds Dec 05 01:02:42 this + web access at home + cell phone = ouch anyway... Dec 05 01:02:42 so you could use it for your home connection too, if you didn't mind being down there when away Dec 05 01:04:18 mmm... i mainly use web acess at univ or home. I guess this service is not for me. Anyway, it's not availiable in france for now. Dec 05 02:16:46 morning all Dec 05 02:17:49 good morning RP Dec 05 02:42:20 morning Liam Dec 05 02:43:05 morning Richard Dec 05 02:56:25 morning Dec 05 02:56:36 hey hrw|work Dec 05 02:56:46 wifi cards... mine is 1Mbps only Dec 05 02:56:46 morning hrw|work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 05 02:59:56 2005