**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 10 02:59:57 2005 Dec 10 03:28:54 <_law_> hi Dec 10 04:35:56 hi Dec 10 04:40:06 kergoth: did you look my tslib patch? Dec 10 08:36:19 <_law_> hi Dec 10 09:08:27 he koen Dec 10 10:01:55 hi Dec 10 10:18:46 hi Dec 10 10:35:35 hi Dec 10 11:05:26 hi Dec 10 11:05:32 hi hrw Dec 10 11:05:35 ~seen greentux Dec 10 11:05:40 greentux was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 20h 1m 12s ago, saying: 'ok. cu. '. Dec 10 11:05:59 ibot: botmail help Dec 10 11:06:04 hi pH5 Dec 10 11:06:51 1G card for Z.. lot of space Dec 10 11:10:38 hi all Dec 10 11:10:51 hi pb_ Dec 10 11:11:05 libx11-6 (>= 6.2.1cvs20050830) Dec 10 11:11:10 does anybody have that ipk ? Dec 10 11:11:19 see topic Dec 10 11:11:42 hi pb_ Dec 10 11:11:48 hi pb, RP Dec 10 11:11:55 and hrw :) Dec 10 11:11:58 koen|770: hey koen Dec 10 11:12:21 RP: time for me to stop using nandflash on Z :) Dec 10 11:12:23 uhm, i tried to install minimo/gpe-mini-browser from utwente, but it doesn't have that ipk Dec 10 11:15:42 hrw: You've broken it again? Dec 10 11:16:00 RP: no - I got 1GB sd card Dec 10 11:16:05 koen|770: Whats the plan for enabling write access to OE? Dec 10 11:16:19 hrw: Ah, handy :) Dec 10 11:17:14 RP: poor koen. I just asked the same question on #gpe Dec 10 11:17:18 (19:07:17) koen|770: after mickeyl and I are sure everyone has the correct db Dec 10 11:17:57 koen|770: I suspect the only safe way to do it is to enable people one by one once they confirm they've converted Dec 10 11:18:26 RP: that's why mickeyl and I can push :) Dec 10 11:19:01 koen: I told that converted about 1h after clean-db release Dec 10 11:19:23 koen: I can confirm I've changed over Dec 10 11:19:46 and you don't have unpushed commits? Dec 10 11:20:11 a merge is something I don't want to risk right now Dec 10 11:20:39 I haven't any unpushed commits as I've a totally new database... Dec 10 11:21:40 koen: I already did two commits and a merge locally after the changeover. Should I restart from a snapshot? Dec 10 11:21:47 RP, hrw: you should be able to push now Dec 10 11:21:51 pH5: please do Dec 10 11:21:55 koen: thanks Dec 10 11:21:59 koen: thx Dec 10 11:23:28 hmmm Dec 10 11:23:43 'cool runnings' in <10 minutes.. funny movie Dec 10 11:24:05 where are the other 32mb of rom in the ipaq h5550 ? Dec 10 11:24:26 there is no rom in a h5550 Dec 10 11:26:32 where are the other 32mb of permanent storage? Dec 10 11:26:56 there is no other 32mb Dec 10 11:27:33 hrw: Are you pushing anything or can I try and commit a few things? Dec 10 11:27:45 RP: feel free Dec 10 11:27:58 RP: I dont have something to push Dec 10 11:29:07 hrw|tv: Just wondered as I don't fancy being to one to break monotone :) Dec 10 11:29:43 ;) Dec 10 11:30:03 pull, update, commit should be safe Dec 10 11:30:04 RP: I'm now building new opie-image for card Dec 10 11:30:08 * koen crosses fingers Dec 10 11:30:26 the test commit one hour ago worked Dec 10 11:30:43 I have pull/merge/update as aliases (mtpull = vanille, mtpulle = ewi) Dec 10 11:31:35 koen: I've just commited something and it seemed to work fine. I'll start commiting the queue of zaurus 2.6 updates... Dec 10 11:32:17 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=c9a54a7b961da8e95c8a999e0d4278c244dd59ce Dec 10 11:33:01 looks like the 'fix' works Dec 10 11:33:16 lets hope so Dec 10 11:33:59 the rebuild needed to support a roster enabled monotone should get rid of those tainted csets forever Dec 10 11:34:22 * koen composes an email to oe@ Dec 10 11:38:18 koen: I fetched the 20051210 OE.db snapshot, did a pull and fresh checkout. Dec 10 11:42:37 RP: give info after push Dec 10 11:42:43 pH5: that worked? Dec 10 11:43:52 koen: yes. i've got everything up to RP's quilt revision now. Dec 10 11:44:25 pH5 was the correct key, right? Dec 10 11:44:30 and ph5 the old one Dec 10 11:44:50 hrw|tv: info? Dec 10 11:44:51 yes Dec 10 11:45:18 pH5: ok, you can push again, but wait till RP has pushed his kernel changes Dec 10 11:46:22 koen: thanks. my commits were only avahi 0.6.1 and libnss-mdns 0.7, not terribly important right now :) Dec 10 11:56:16 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev still show the correct stuff Dec 10 11:57:20 koen: It appears to be working ok. I'm pulling into my other repository which I'll then sync as well Dec 10 11:57:35 (with no merging) Dec 10 11:58:06 CIA: gmailfs: update python-libgmail and DEPENDS Dec 10 12:00:13 CIA: LAB: add Linux As Bootloader Dec 10 12:00:53 CIA: linux-oz-2.6: Update to 2.6.15-rc5, making this the default due to the size issues with -git3. Lots of ALSA updates from Liam and myself - ALSA sound is now fully operational on c7x0 and cxx00 models. Some mainline merging and led updates. Dec 10 12:00:57 CIA: bootshim: add 0.2 Dec 10 12:01:09 CIA: linux-oz-2.6.inc: Autoload sound modules Dec 10 12:01:14 that were the commits I needed to make Dec 10 12:01:22 CIA: zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: Add sound modules and their dependencies. Also add some network module dependencies. This can be simplified when we correct 2.6 kernel module package dependencies. Switch to kernel internal hostap. Dec 10 12:01:32 CIA: base-files: Update fstab for spitz to use hda2 as home and mount hda3 under /media. Correct the extremely out of date fstab for brozoi to match spitz. Dec 10 12:01:42 CIA: quilt: Add 0.42 - I've been using this locally for a while with no issues Dec 10 12:01:45 RP: super! Dec 10 12:01:56 pulling... Dec 10 12:02:38 if you don't mind a ~60 minute lag: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev Dec 10 12:07:14 hrw|tv: I think there's a depenency of alsamixer missing - I've tried to add it to the default clamshell image Dec 10 12:08:25 * RP wanders off for food Dec 10 12:08:48 our alsa userland is also a bit outdated Dec 10 12:09:17 koen|tv: Outdated perhaps but it does work :) Dec 10 12:11:13 +CMDLINE_ROOT_c7x0 = "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootfstype=ext2 rw" Dec 10 12:16:20 man.... Dec 10 12:16:23 some people..... Dec 10 12:16:34 should follow instructions or quite whining Dec 10 12:16:45 (yes, mr day has sent yet another clueless email) Dec 10 12:16:47 heh. Dec 10 12:17:03 quit. Dec 10 12:39:55 RP: defconfig-c7x0 has bug in 1138 line Dec 10 12:41:02 RP: s/^=/# Dec 10 12:41:56 how does one install the monotone deb from venge.net on Debian unstable? I'm getting errors about unmet dependencies, but I'm not familiar enough with dselect/apt-get to fix it Dec 10 12:43:18 mreimer_: http://handhelds.org/~hrw/ - monotone 0.24 for current sid Dec 10 12:43:29 mreimer_: upstream one is too old Dec 10 12:44:02 thanks hrw|tv Dec 10 12:44:27 np Dec 10 12:55:28 hey mreimer Dec 10 12:57:17 mreimer: if you can send me the defconfig for lab2210 we should have everything in place :) Dec 10 12:57:58 hi mreimer Dec 10 13:03:28 hey koen, pb Dec 10 13:08:12 koen, I just committed my current LAB config to arch/arm/configs/h2200_lab_defconfig, so you should be able to just "oe_runmake h2200_lab_defconfig" in the .bb Dec 10 13:08:52 koen, I'll be gone most of today, so email me with LAB questions Dec 10 13:09:58 koen: to fix LAB on your h2200, use the .htc file if you're using the rescue bootloader, or the .bin file if you're dd'ing right to flash Dec 10 13:10:15 mreimer just to ask LAB should/can work also for h3600 ? Dec 10 13:10:34 mreimer: enjoy lww Dec 10 13:13:54 gremlin[it]: theoretically it should be able to work on anything, if it's configured correctly and the first-stage bootloader or haret can load it. Dec 10 13:14:06 koen|770: thanks. Did you finish the book yet, or see the movie? Dec 10 13:14:26 still waiting for the books Dec 10 13:15:04 koen|770: I just pulled and updated my db and fresh trees without errors, so you can re-enable mreimer@openembedded.org when you get a chance. Thanks for handling all that mess! Dec 10 13:15:21 time to do some Christmas shopping. bye all Dec 10 13:19:24 where is an irc channel where i can ask question about arm & kernel ? Dec 10 13:27:01 hi Cwiiis Dec 10 13:30:31 8,9§§§7,6 ÇäÐàÂñÒâÓéÒå 11ÌàËü×èØêÈ 7È 13ÄåÂ÷ÅíÊè 8,9§§§ Dec 10 13:30:44 let he die in flames Dec 10 13:34:30 CIA-2: fixed DEPENDS in lirc Dec 10 13:41:29 CIA-2: fixed typo in c7x0 defconfig Dec 10 13:42:06 CIA: add LAB defconfig for h2200 and update bootshim Dec 10 13:42:44 someone remember rules about using discspace? I would like to move my OE files to hh.org from hrw.one.pl Dec 10 13:43:14 s/discspace/discspace on handhelds.org Dec 10 13:43:17 hrw|tv: good thing schurig doesn't read bugreports, or he would have deleted lirc Dec 10 13:43:33 koen|tv: because it depend on libx11? Dec 10 13:43:48 yeah, because the depends is wrong Dec 10 13:44:02 and diskspace on hh.org is a bit low Dec 10 13:44:23 on the webserver at least Dec 10 13:44:28 ok. I will stay with keeping them where they are Dec 10 13:44:29 no idea on the rest of the farm Dec 10 13:45:08 lirc fix have to go to branch too Dec 10 13:49:35 howto get free mem... quit all java apps Dec 10 13:54:13 hi nail Dec 10 13:54:40 heh Dec 10 13:59:03 Hey hrw|tv Dec 10 14:00:46 how things Cwiiis? Dec 10 14:05:31 funny.. I use opie for nearly 2 years and had to read non opie page to discover context menu in it.. Dec 10 14:06:08 context menus are fluff Dec 10 14:06:25 they are Dec 10 15:20:19 ciabot will be offline for some more hours... I need to let it repull 3536 from scratch... Dec 10 15:20:28 hi mickeyl Dec 10 15:20:28 revisions, that is Dec 10 15:20:34 good evening, btw. Dec 10 15:20:37 NOTE: package hrw-opie-image-1.0-r1: task do_build: completed Dec 10 15:21:14 hey mickeyl Dec 10 15:26:42 mickeyl: fwiw, our branch was unaffected by the breakage Dec 10 15:27:02 koen|770: cool. so it was local to the nslu? Dec 10 15:27:09 or .dev Dec 10 15:27:16 .dev Dec 10 15:29:31 VFS: mounted root (ext2 filesystem) Dec 10 15:30:24 hey lamikr Dec 10 15:30:53 hi koen. I pulled the oe.db ok with 0.24. Dec 10 15:31:02 ok Dec 10 15:32:00 The static mt bin available in the monotone page did not work in Mandriva, so I build the monotone by myself. Dec 10 15:33:29 gomunicator fixes for h63xx are also now in the gomunicator cvs... Dec 10 15:34:23 hmm.. lots of i/o errors ;( Dec 10 15:34:48 lamikr: did the monotone pull succeed? Dec 10 15:35:32 Yes, at least it said it was ok... I can put the log message from console to pastebin Dec 10 15:35:53 hrw|tv were the i/o errors from me? Dec 10 15:37:11 lamikr: your key has been reactivated Dec 10 15:37:55 thanks... I thought hrw|tv was speaking that my monotone pull was causing io errors... Dec 10 15:38:05 no its my sd card Dec 10 15:38:16 :-) or :-( Dec 10 15:40:34 booting into flash.. have to test does Z like that card or not.. Dec 10 15:42:59 dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=/dev/null bs=2048 ends in i/o errors ;( Dec 10 15:43:42 the 1G one? Dec 10 15:43:54 yes Dec 10 15:44:02 highspeed one Dec 10 15:44:29 highspeed doesn't matter a lot with 1 bit SD Dec 10 15:44:34 I know Dec 10 15:46:17 'night all Dec 10 15:47:14 n8 koen Dec 10 15:47:51 n8 koen Dec 10 15:47:53 bbl Dec 10 15:47:55 now dd'ing on desktop Dec 10 15:50:50 1000341504 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 164.745 seconds, 6.1 MB/s Dec 10 15:51:04 no problem on desktop... so problem is on Z side not card Dec 10 15:52:45 hrw:tv what is Z Dec 10 15:53:15 Zaurus Dec 10 15:53:32 Sharp Zaurus C760 to be exact (PDA) Dec 10 15:57:09 lamikr: today I got 1GB sd card (it was kind of donation) Dec 10 15:57:31 And you are able to mount it with sharp? Dec 10 15:59:27 mount yes, but accessing it result in i/o erros sooner or later Dec 10 16:03:01 hrw|tv h63xx kernel is in the 2.6.14 level but rootfs mount from the 512 MB SD cards failed also to following errors for me when I tried it some weeks ago: Dec 10 16:03:03 mmcblk0 mmc0:1f3f SK512 483840KiB Dec 10 16:03:04 mmcblk0 <7>MMC1: Data CRC error, bytes left 0 Dec 10 16:03:06 mmcblk0: error 2 transfering data Dec 10 16:03:07 mmcblk0: error 2 transfering data Dec 10 16:03:09 end request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 Dec 10 16:03:11 Buffer I/O error on on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 Dec 10 16:03:12 mmcblk0: error 2 transfering data Dec 10 16:03:14 mmcblk0: error 2 transfering data Dec 10 16:03:15 end request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0 Dec 10 16:03:16 Buffer I/O error on on device mmcblk0, logical block 0 Dec 10 16:03:18 unable to read partition table Dec 10 16:03:19 Bridge firewalling registered Dec 10 16:03:21 VFS: No root yet, retrying to mount root on mmcblk0p2 (unknown-block(254,2)) Dec 10 16:05:45 Have you followed arm-kernel mailing list? There seemed to be some new thread conserning 1 and 4 bit modes in SD cards. Dec 10 16:05:54 my Z is able to read partition table under 2.6.15-rc2/rc5, card is automounted ok but then it fail Dec 10 16:06:05 my zaurus is 1bit Dec 10 16:08:39 16m mmc works ok. will look with 64m sd Dec 10 16:09:46 We have all MMC cards that I know working now. 64, 128,256,512 MB. Earlier we had problems with 512 mb cards but they got fixed when we updated to 2.6.14 kernel. Dec 10 16:10:18 64m works Dec 10 16:10:40 for you? Dec 10 16:10:46 yes Dec 10 16:10:59 I have 16mmc, 64sd, 256sd, 1G sd Dec 10 16:11:24 1G sd gives i/o errors in random sectors Dec 10 16:11:27 So it was SD, really nice. Dec 10 16:12:19 now 256M sd.. Dec 10 16:12:42 Are you able to hotplug those? Dec 10 16:13:11 yes Dec 10 16:13:39 So you are booting from flash? Dec 10 16:13:54 iirc zaurus c7x0 was one of platforms where mmc/sd support for 2.6 was tested before pushing to mainline Dec 10 16:13:57 yes Dec 10 16:14:20 zauruses are linuxPDA from start Dec 10 16:14:55 256m sd works ok (dd test) Dec 10 16:15:29 Yes, I know that... I was once planning to buy one when I saw it in some conference... I just took some years after that until they finally arrived to really available. Dec 10 16:15:39 dd test = 'dd if=/dev/mmbclk0 of=/dev/null bs=2048' Dec 10 16:16:05 arm-kernel-list had following from the different cards: same thing here in 4 bits mode. Some cards (Sandisk for example) are working Dec 10 16:16:06 fine, other cards (Low cost, no brand, or Danelec) are not working in 4 bits Dec 10 16:16:08 mode. Dec 10 16:16:12 I saw that Dec 10 16:16:35 but pxa25x based zauruses are 1bit only Dec 10 16:17:04 who know. maybe card is 4b only :) Dec 10 16:17:20 will have to meed with friend and check it in his ipaq3870 Dec 10 16:17:28 Well, that may well be the case. Dec 10 16:18:01 one thing is sure - card is totally noname Dec 10 16:18:57 I have always thought that there is only one big factory whose cards are branded with tens of names. :-) Dec 10 16:19:55 ;) Dec 10 16:20:13 few companies makes core, many brand them Dec 10 16:20:33 for example there is no such manufacturer as 'kingston' - its only brand Dec 10 16:20:34 to another issue, have you btw played with alsa on gpe? Dec 10 16:20:41 I use opie Dec 10 16:21:28 "kingston" and "sandisk" are the most common "name" at least in local shops in finland. Dec 10 16:22:03 That reminds me that I should sometimes try to build and boot opie image. Dec 10 16:22:49 I saw kingstons made by toshiba or hitachi Dec 10 16:23:13 there are rumours that panasonic are best Dec 10 16:23:43 I'll test on Z under 2.4.18-crapix... Dec 10 16:23:53 Are SD cards available with "Panasonic" name? Dec 10 16:24:06 yes Dec 10 16:25:42 ;(((((( Dec 10 16:25:58 under 2.4.18-crapix card fails too Dec 10 16:26:16 the 1 g one? Dec 10 16:27:10 yes Dec 10 16:28:14 buu Dec 10 16:31:08 I am playing with alsa-sounddriver startup not made by me for omap-tsc2101 but can not hear anything with h6340 :-( The problem is just that I am not even sure could it be just a mixer settings or do I really try to fix the driver... Dec 10 16:31:54 http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/alsa/info.html Dec 10 16:33:50 Yes, I noticed that today from wiki... Do you know who are working with this? Dec 10 16:34:05 RP and lrg Dec 10 16:34:49 iirc lrg started it and RP helps with zaurus testing and pushing mainline Dec 10 16:37:15 So Irg knows alsa drivers, spi, mscbs2, etc. well. I would really need some help with this one. Dec 10 16:37:55 he works at company which make WM* chips Dec 10 16:38:40 Sorry, again new term... WM? Dec 10 16:38:50 WM8731, WM8750 Dec 10 16:39:04 Oh, yes... :-) Dec 10 16:39:34 I'm not familiar with pda internals Dec 10 16:41:20 Well, I have tried to learn now... Bought even one book, but even it was big, I think failed to explaing the things from which I am most interested in... By hacking I learn slowly but ... Dec 10 16:47:45 time to sleep Dec 10 16:47:55 good n8 lamikr Dec 10 18:42:26 any progress with a beta for GPE on the spitz? Dec 10 18:43:04 really don't like using Cacko that much, I want pure X that runs faster than X/qt. Dec 10 18:43:12 the speed of X/qt is pittiful inside of cacko Dec 11 02:26:02 hi Dec 11 02:33:23 hi zecke Dec 11 02:44:52 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 11 02:59:57 2005