**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 12 02:59:57 2005 Dec 12 03:00:43 _law_: The in kernel hostap was working for me. I think we might need to upgrade some of the wireless utils versions to work with it though Dec 12 03:02:02 hi greentux Dec 12 03:02:03 morning Dec 12 03:02:12 read mail. Dec 12 03:02:13 morning greentux Dec 12 03:02:14 hey greentux Dec 12 03:02:19 greentux: got card. card not working in my Z :( Dec 12 03:02:25 why? Dec 12 03:02:39 i think its to big. 1 GB... Dec 12 03:02:51 SD card? Dec 12 03:02:53 greentux: 1G are supported in Z - larger are not Dec 12 03:03:12 mmmh i have no experience Dec 12 03:03:37 greentux: card is recognized, mounted and then fail.. its c7x0 Zaurus problem because card works in usb card writer, works also in collie Dec 12 03:03:58 hrw|work: ok, so you have something to fix :) Dec 12 03:03:58 They should work but it sounds like a problem with the pxa mmc driver or the mmc layer in 2.6 linux Dec 12 03:04:26 greentux: yep Dec 12 03:07:53 greentux: I go faxing Dec 12 03:16:03 <_law_> RP should i try update my wireless utils? Dec 12 03:17:29 greentux: fax sent Dec 12 03:20:32 _law_: Out of interest are you trying to use an encrypted connection? Dec 12 03:20:57 _law_: If so, upgrading things like wpa-supplicant might help, otherwise, perhaps not Dec 12 03:20:57 hrw|work: tnx Dec 12 03:22:31 zecke: will be at your company in januar :) Dec 12 03:41:27 moin lala Dec 12 03:44:44 morning Dec 12 03:44:55 mickeyl: time to turn off tv? :) Dec 12 03:44:58 heh Dec 12 03:45:04 the ciabot script no longer works with 0.24 Dec 12 03:45:16 any idea what to change 'monotone cat -r ' into ? Dec 12 03:45:20 looks like it needs a path now Dec 12 03:45:24 *sigh* Dec 12 03:48:05 morning mickeyl Dec 12 03:49:24 mickeyl: hi! Dec 12 03:49:33 hey mickeyl Dec 12 03:49:45 mickeyl: simply replace monotone with git, now that git push finally works :-) Dec 12 03:50:07 ~lart schurig for suggesting git Dec 12 03:50:08 * ibot whips out a hot clue gun and makes sure that schurig is stuck to the floor for suggesting git Dec 12 03:50:09 ;) Dec 12 03:51:09 schurig: I think the problem with git might be the ssh access needed rather and having a dedicated server mode? Dec 12 03:51:17 But I'd like to use git for it... Dec 12 03:51:20 RP: according to sd card problem - who I should contact? other then lkml Dec 12 03:52:14 mickeyl: I think you can replace it with 'monotone log --last=1' Dec 12 03:52:19 hrw|work: You could mention it to Pierre/lkml or rmk/lakml Dec 12 03:52:54 I don't know if its a pxa specific problem or one related to the whole mmc stack Dec 12 03:53:10 RP: ok. will subscribe lakml then Dec 12 03:53:39 There have been other people mentioning problems on there recently - I don't know if its related Dec 12 03:55:04 mickeyl: http://viewmtn.angrygoats.net//file.psp?id=e1a9bb574bc2679d6ac4e5e851c602500826a077&path=contrib/ciabot_monotone_hookversion.py Dec 12 03:57:36 @kaliningrad? Dec 12 03:57:37 RP: not necessarily, see git-http-put, that works via HTTP/DAV. git-send-pack works via ssh, thought. Dec 12 03:58:34 to summarize: it still sucks rocks in the OE use case Dec 12 04:00:31 RP: and according to the file "pull-fetch-param.txt" in my git repository, there are even more methods, it mentions rsync://, http://, https://, git:// and ssh:// Dec 12 04:06:26 unsurprisingly 0 (zero) people have tested other SCMs in the past few months Dec 12 04:06:46 so there are still 0 (zero) people with a right to comment Dec 12 04:07:13 schurig: I'd seen mention that http and rsync didn't deal with concurrency issues very well Dec 12 04:07:56 RP: sadly, pushing was an after-thought for git ... Dec 12 04:09:03 schurig: Sadly, yes :-( Dec 12 04:10:15 koen: I haven't tested OE with git but I did intergrate it into bitbake/OE so I've half done the job :) Dec 12 04:12:43 koen: you can't really know who tested which SCM in what time, can't you? So please be kind and don't deny people to comment on SCMs ... :-) Dec 12 04:14:53 RP: hehe, as a crude hack make rsync only accept one connection at a time (bitkeeper only allowed one person at a time, if I remember correctly) Dec 12 04:18:41 ~lart me for forgetting to set / on mmc CMDLINE Dec 12 04:18:41 * ibot installs a bad bootloader on xora and turns xora into a brick for forgetting to set / on mmc CMDLINE Dec 12 04:21:29 * schurig connects XorA to his JTAG device for unbricking Dec 12 04:23:16 :) Dec 12 04:25:58 log = m.log(rid, 1) Dec 12 04:25:58 rev = m.get_revision(rid) Dec 12 04:26:05 log and rev are different operations Dec 12 04:26:25 at least they were in the old script Dec 12 04:29:09 aaa-ha Dec 12 04:29:12 # 'cat revision' replaced with 'automate get_revision' (mt >0.22). Dec 12 04:32:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra21c2393... 10/packages/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-usb-3.4.1.0/add-compaq-usb-ids.patch: atmelwlandriver: add missing patch Dec 12 04:33:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb3b602a2... 10/packages/atmelwlandriver/ (2 files in 2 dirs): atmel-wlandriver: move file to the correct directory Dec 12 04:33:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re3b7aead... 10/packages/atmelwlandriver/atmelwlandriver-3.4.1.0/fix-kernel-version-test-for-hh.patch: atmelwlan-driver: add last mising patch to make it compile Dec 12 04:33:10 hey we are on board again Dec 12 04:33:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc9a54a7b... 10/packages/quilt/ (quilt-native_0.42.bb quilt_0.42.bb): quilt: Add 0.42 - I've been using this locally for a while with no issues Dec 12 04:33:17 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rb6713f40... 10/packages/base-files/ (3 files in 3 dirs): base-files: Update fstab for spitz to use hda2 as home and mount hda3 under /media. Correct the extremely out of date fstab for brozoi to match spitz. Dec 12 04:33:21 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r15e1daae... 10/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: Dec 12 04:33:21 zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: Add sound modules and their dependencies. Also add Dec 12 04:33:21 some network module dependencies. This can be simplified when we correct 2.6 Dec 12 04:33:21 kernel module package dependencies. Switch to kernel internal hostap. Dec 12 04:33:26 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r1e49a682... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus.inc: linux-oz-2.6.inc: Autoload sound modules Dec 12 04:33:31 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ra929e928... 10/packages/linux/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Dec 12 04:33:31 linux-oz-2.6: Update to 2.6.15-rc5, making this the default due to the size Dec 12 04:33:31 issues with -git3. Lots of ALSA updates from Liam and myself - ALSA sound is now Dec 12 04:33:31 fully operational on c7x0 and cxx00 models. Some mainline merging and led Dec 12 04:33:31 updates. Dec 12 04:33:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6415f0bb... 10/packages/ (fuse/gmailfs_0.6.bb python/python-libgmail_0.1.3.3.bb): gmailfs: update python-libgmail and DEPENDS Dec 12 04:33:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf74e492e... 10/packages/linux/LAB-kernel_cvs.bb: LAB: add Linux As Bootloader Dec 12 04:33:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f749bd2... 10/packages/bootshim/bootShim_0.2.bb: bootshim: add 0.2 Dec 12 04:33:46 CIA-4: you flooder... Dec 12 04:33:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r240c181c... 10/packages/linux/LAB-kernel/h2200/defconfig: LAB-kernel: add defconfig for h2200 Dec 12 04:33:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * red923def... 10/packages/bootshim/bootShim_0.2.bb: bootshim: put both rescue and dd-able images in deploy Dec 12 04:33:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r505a6e21... 10/packages/lirc/lirc_0.7.1.bb: lirc 0.7.1: fix DEPENDS - close bug #514 Dec 12 04:34:00 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0e56c375... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.14+2.6.15-rc5/defconfig-c7x0: Dec 12 04:34:00 linux-openzaurus 2.6.14+2.6.15-rc5: fixed typo in c7x0 defconfig Dec 12 04:34:00 | .config:1138: *** empty variable name. Stop. Dec 12 04:34:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r134ba30e... 10/packages/gtk+/ (14 files in 2 dirs): gtk+: add latest stable release (2.8.9) Dec 12 04:34:09 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r95dedd03... 10/packages/avahi/avahi_0.6.1.bb: avahi: bugfix release 0.6.1 with avahi-utils Dec 12 04:34:13 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r5634d011... 10/packages/libnss-mdns/libnss-mdns_0.7.bb: libnss-mdns: add latest release (0.7) Dec 12 04:34:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r44189b34... 10/packages/irssi/irssi_cvs.bb: irssi cvs: bump PR since 0.8.10 was released today Dec 12 04:34:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * red2d8d9d... 10/packages/irssi/ (irssi_cvs.bb irssi_svn.bb): irssi: adapt .bb to build from svn instead of cvs Dec 12 04:34:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra3f58148... 10/packages/irssi/irssi_0.8.10.bb: irssi: add 0.8.10 Dec 12 04:34:28 * mickeyl hugs CIA-4 for being back again Dec 12 04:34:31 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc587d70c... 10/packages/alsa/ (4 files): Dec 12 04:34:31 ALSA upgraded to 1.0.10 (lib, oss, tools, utils) Dec 12 04:34:31 - tools marked as BROKEN Dec 12 04:34:31 - alsa-utils RRECOMMEND ALSA_PACKAGES instead of RDEPENDS on them Dec 12 04:34:31 (someone could have them in kernel) Dec 12 04:36:21 RP: now that alsa has been upgraded to 1.0.10, I'll make all the xxx_t to struct changes in asoc Dec 12 04:42:30 lrg: Ok, that sounds good, as long as we can import a patch into the Zaurus tree to keep up with those changes Dec 12 04:44:18 koen: any more people for write access yet? Dec 12 04:45:18 RP: np, I'll send you the 0.9 patch today. (only the version has changed from the last patch). I'll then do the xxx_t changes and start on Giorgios driver Dec 12 04:47:33 RP: I'll also speak with CosmicPenguin about adding the au1200 platform layer as I've already made a start to this. This should give the wm8731 driver testing on another platform. Dec 12 04:48:29 Hi LIam. Any news on the 9712 touch? Dec 12 04:49:48 do13: Hi Dirk, I'll send you a patch later today as I've got some room in my schedule. Got PM suspend and resume working, I just need to clean up. Dec 12 04:50:11 do13: appologies for being late with this. Dec 12 04:50:27 lrg: np. Thanks. Dec 12 04:55:51 mickey|lunch: http://pastebin.com/460664 Dec 12 04:58:56 lrg: It all seemed to be working well on both corgi and spitz in the testing I've done Dec 12 04:59:24 RP: excellent :) Dec 12 04:59:58 lrg: I've not tested the recording as I don't have an input source to test Dec 12 05:00:07 lrg: giorgios code handles the uda1380 and akXXXX? Dec 12 05:00:24 RP: I'll be able to do that this week Dec 12 05:00:44 koen: yes, I'll start with the uda first. Dec 12 05:00:58 ah, cool Dec 12 05:01:07 that should work on my h2210 Dec 12 05:01:07 I'll have some 2.6 testing images for cxx00 and c7x0 available soon Dec 12 05:01:33 We need to convince Giorgio of the value os ASoC... Dec 12 05:02:21 RP: I'm hoping when he's seen the uda driver and how easy it is he'll be convinced. Fingers crossed. Dec 12 05:02:41 RP: also DPM is a big bonus Dec 12 05:04:42 lrg: Agreed on both counts. Fingers crossed Dec 12 05:04:59 It certainly really helped spitz/corgi audio :) Dec 12 05:22:50 http://sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/autobuild/ Dec 12 05:24:19 RP: do you think it would be a good idea to add an autoload for ppp_async? Dec 12 05:24:54 XorA: Not really - Not ervyonoe is ging to use that Dec 12 05:25:24 RP: how do we get it to load itself when used then, having to manually modprobe sucks Dec 12 05:26:32 <_law_> XorA, i also want ppp_async ;-) Dec 12 05:27:22 XorA: It should probably get loaded by the scripts related to whatever uses ppp Dec 12 05:31:46 RP: the multimachine stuff worked? Dec 12 05:32:12 koen: It does, thanks Dec 12 05:32:38 koen: I'm planning to try and semi automate image building... Dec 12 05:33:17 zecke and I had that running for tinderbox a while back Dec 12 05:34:03 The idea here is to have some uptodate images available for 2.6 oz Dec 12 05:34:10 The plan was to run unit test against an ipaq connected to the server Dec 12 05:34:23 but the new semester started to early Dec 12 05:34:32 it always does :) Dec 12 05:35:00 I'm hoping if there are regular images appearing, users might submit bugs and bug fixes for them... Dec 12 05:35:09 * RP is obviously dreaming but... ;-) Dec 12 05:35:42 OZ users and testing.... Dec 12 05:36:00 or rather Dec 12 05:36:07 OZ users and bugreporting.... Dec 12 05:36:55 I bet the users are going to complain about too many updates Dec 12 05:37:17 We'll never win Dec 12 05:37:55 RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/autobuild/ Dec 12 05:38:28 koen: Ah, that will be useful, thanks - might save some of my bandwidth :) Dec 12 05:38:50 it should have all the stuff in ~40 minutes or so Dec 12 05:39:04 how do you revert pages on wiki to normal ? Dec 12 05:39:17 its been spammed by "cache2" Dec 12 05:39:24 RecentChanges -> blue i -> revert Dec 12 05:39:55 you have to have a login for that Dec 12 05:40:54 pages reverted Dec 12 05:41:22 cheers Dec 12 05:42:48 morning Dec 12 05:43:02 Good morning Dec 12 05:47:30 ~hail shlibs code Dec 12 05:47:31 * ibot bows down to shlibs code and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Dec 12 05:48:11 I can't stop laughing at other 'distro' which use handcrafted control files Dec 12 05:48:18 distros* Dec 12 05:50:57 * XorA thinks more ***X*** stupidity is about to enter channel Dec 12 05:51:33 XorA: you guessed what I was talking about Dec 12 05:51:44 I was reading a thread about gaim not working Dec 12 05:52:42 'distros' Dec 12 05:53:06 hrm.. are we talking about P*****m? Dec 12 05:53:18 TyggerBob: yes Dec 12 05:53:21 Ahhh Dec 12 05:53:21 ok Dec 12 05:54:16 we darent say the last word as koen turns purple Dec 12 05:54:32 heh Dec 12 05:54:52 I really should send a patch for the mkfs.jffs2 commandline Dec 12 05:56:44 in 'gaim issue in rc12' thread I would write 'maybe libumbaumba is needed?' post but pdax people will shout too much then Dec 12 05:57:30 for i in lib*.ipk ; do ipkg install $i ; done Dec 12 05:57:57 koen: their ipkg does not allow 'ipkg install lib*ipk'? Dec 12 05:58:09 oh wait, you have to search a zillion different feeds first Dec 12 05:58:39 you can't download the ipkgs because hostap-modules is missing Dec 12 05:58:52 but that's part of the 'experience' Dec 12 05:59:14 mickeyl: do we use ewi/tmp/OZ/ images as 3.5.4-rc2 or not? Dec 12 06:00:20 I have a cool codename for the first Ångström release: 'umbaumba' Dec 12 06:00:36 ;))) Dec 12 06:00:47 The files in my autobuild are near enough 3.5.4.1-rc1 Dec 12 06:00:47 my 'umbaumba' word going to be famous Dec 12 06:01:13 RP: let first 3.5.4 out... Dec 12 06:01:25 I'm tempted to make a libumbaumba .ipk Dec 12 06:01:39 sounds similar to umpalumpa out of charlie and the chocolate factory :) Dec 12 06:02:09 RP: didnt watched it yet Dec 12 06:02:16 heh Dec 12 06:02:18 hrw|work: Yes, it will only getreleased after that as it will need the 3.5.4 feed Dec 12 06:02:24 the book is better Dec 12 06:02:38 I've not seen the film Dec 12 06:03:15 watch the trailer and read the book :) Dec 12 06:03:23 the ending is a bit bad Dec 12 06:03:30 I've read the book Dec 12 06:03:43 a long time ago... Dec 12 06:04:51 heh Dec 12 06:05:06 someone asks a 'how fast' question in a openbsd forum Dec 12 06:05:31 I suspect openbsd people use benchmarks as toiletpaper Dec 12 06:05:45 openbsd on Z make infinite loop in 3s less then under sharprom Dec 12 06:08:50 hrw|work: sounds good to me. lets put it into an official directory Dec 12 06:08:54 (r2) Dec 12 06:08:56 (rc2, even) Dec 12 06:09:13 ~lartviewmtn for needing a rw database Dec 12 06:09:16 ~lart viewmtn for needing a rw database Dec 12 06:09:17 * ibot beats viewmtn into protomatter with the andromeda galaxy for needing a rw database Dec 12 06:09:56 mickeyl: a rw directory even Dec 12 06:10:35 bummer Dec 12 06:10:42 'This is monotone.vanille.de, running monotone 0.22, serving branches org.openembedded.{dreambox,dev}' Dec 12 06:11:20 yeah, has to be upgraded Dec 12 06:11:30 BTW: monotone.vanille.de/viewmtn is online again Dec 12 06:12:11 the icons aren't working ;) Dec 12 06:12:37 what icons? Dec 12 06:13:09 mickeyl: vi style.css add 'text:black;' into body{} part Dec 12 06:13:24 'Unable to get list of heads for org.openembedded.dev: misuse: database /path/to/monotone.db does not exist' Dec 12 06:13:37 hrw|work: hit reload Dec 12 06:13:44 hrw|work: that's monotone codetalk for 'database locked' Dec 12 06:13:49 AttributeError: Monotone instance has no attribute 'toposort' Dec 12 06:13:51 that too? Dec 12 06:13:53 lrg: hi lrg Dec 12 06:13:58 hmm it works from here Dec 12 06:14:01 hi greentux Dec 12 06:14:04 guess you have some old things in cache Dec 12 06:14:05 I've seen at least 4 different messages for 'file busy' stuff with 0.24 Dec 12 06:14:22 lrg: is the borzoi helpful? Dec 12 06:15:13 do we want http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/oe/ to get updated again? Dec 12 06:15:15 that default viewmtn listing of last changes is nice but could be more compact (like bk had ;) Dec 12 06:15:27 greentux: yes, playback seems to be ok now, so I'm going to start on capture this week Dec 12 06:15:59 lrg: sounds very nice, so voip session could be possible (minisip) Dec 12 06:16:24 koen: yeah, can't hurt Dec 12 06:16:24 greentux: should be possible, yes Dec 12 06:16:34 viewmtn is so slow nowadays Dec 12 06:16:42 mickeyl: do you know who own the 'oe' project on hh.org? Dec 12 06:16:47 owns* Dec 12 06:17:13 kergoth Dec 12 06:17:21 ok Dec 12 06:17:33 I'll mail admin@ to get access to the oe cvs tree Dec 12 06:18:11 proj_oe group? Dec 12 06:19:05 yup Dec 12 06:19:59 hrw|work: do you have instructions for building monotone from source on debian? Dec 12 06:20:15 koen: apt-get -c source monotone Dec 12 06:20:20 iirc Dec 12 06:20:45 koen: or wget http://handhelds.org/~hrw/monotone_0.24-0.2.deb;dpkg -i monotone_0.24-0.2.deb Dec 12 06:20:53 if I remember filename correct Dec 12 06:21:17 hrw|work: I want to build the cvssync branch, so I can automate update to hh.org cvs Dec 12 06:22:01 tar-xvzf monotone-0.24.tgz; cd monotone-0.24; configure;make ;-) Dec 12 06:22:10 koen: grab source, cd source, dh_make -s;'debuild -b -uc' (or 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' if no devscripts installed) Dec 12 06:22:25 boost is up to date in sarge? Dec 12 06:22:34 sarge is old Dec 12 06:22:51 sarge is stable so it is old - monotone 0.16 iirc Dec 12 06:22:53 all my computers run sarge Dec 12 06:23:09 koen: so you have to backport boost, then monotone Dec 12 06:23:15 crap Dec 12 06:23:30 thats sarge - debian 'stable' Dec 12 06:23:46 if it stable then it does not have updates other then security Dec 12 06:25:34 * france is back (gone 09:53:05) Dec 12 06:42:02 lunch time.. Dec 12 06:44:05 hi Dec 12 06:46:42 yay! Dec 12 06:46:51 3 machine mentors already: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/_c5ngstr_f6mMachineMentors Dec 12 06:49:00 <_law_> RP, i dont need wpa stuff Dec 12 06:49:17 <_law_> RP or is it required? Dec 12 06:49:36 <_law_> wpa-supplicant-nossl-0.2.6-r3 is installed Dec 12 06:50:24 law deepnds what you're trying to do... Dec 12 06:54:14 <_law_> RP installing hostap kernel modules (2.6.15-rc5) Dec 12 06:57:22 _law_: problems with the hostap on kernel 2.6.15? Dec 12 06:58:06 <_law_> Bernardo, yes they wont load Dec 12 06:58:42 same here Dec 12 06:59:08 yesterday night I blasted my tmp dir, and rebuilt all from scratch for the akita to check if there was any problem with my env Dec 12 06:59:09 koen: 4 Dec 12 06:59:27 I can get hostap to load if I load the ieee80211 modules before Dec 12 06:59:43 but still my sandisk connect card won't be recognized Dec 12 07:02:09 I'd guess ieee is missing from the current zaurus rootfs images which might be the problem Dec 12 07:02:41 doesn't the kernel shlibs take care of that? Dec 12 07:06:56 RP: but I installed the ieee kernel modules, and that didn't help Dec 12 07:08:31 koen: kernel module dependencies seem to be totally broken for 2.6 kernels Dec 12 07:08:59 Bernardo: What was the error from dmesg? Dec 12 07:11:03 someone know who is Toru Ishizaki? Dec 12 07:15:41 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=16301&st=0&p=106837&#entry106837 - could not resist Dec 12 07:16:44 RP: it has no errors after loading the ieee modules and then hostap, but if I try to load then the hostap_crypto modules, I get a couple of undefined references Dec 12 07:17:42 Bernardo: Some further kernel module must be missing... Dec 12 07:18:21 dmesg should list the missing symbols Dec 12 07:18:25 the missing references are to hostap_something Dec 12 07:18:32 modprobe hostap Dec 12 07:18:34 RP: I take modinfo doesn't list dependencies anymore? Dec 12 07:18:47 I know, but I had to restore a working image to use my akita at work today Dec 12 07:18:57 and hostap is loaded Dec 12 07:20:47 koen: I've not looked into why its broken Dec 12 07:21:50 15:22 hrw@work:0915$ ./tmp/cross/bin/arm-linux-modinfo -V Dec 12 07:21:50 modinfo (Linux modutils) 2.4.27 Dec 12 07:22:05 thats why probably Dec 12 07:24:12 no module-init-tools-cross? Dec 12 07:25:06 koen: modutils-cross was build after module-init-tools-cross probably Dec 12 07:26:38 looks like bug to fixing Dec 12 07:37:01 angstrom? Dec 12 07:37:49 chouimat: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/NewDistroNames Dec 12 07:37:56 RP: I can try reflashing with th 2.6.15 image, if you want me to do any tests Dec 12 07:39:00 Bernardo: I'm not really in a position to look into this at the moment. It sounds like you need to find the kernel module that provides your missing symbols Dec 12 07:39:34 and/or fix the kernel module package dependencies Dec 12 07:39:37 hrw|work: thanks ... now I understand ... Dec 12 07:41:30 RP: could be. The strangest is that even though hostap by itself loads (after ieee80211) without errors, it won't bind to my card Dec 12 07:44:08 WARNING: Couldn't open directory /home/hrw/devel/build/0915/tmp/work/c7x0-linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.14+2.6.15-rc5-r1/image/lib/modules/2.6.14+2.6.15-rc5: No such file or directory Dec 12 07:44:53 will look after pacakges generation Dec 12 07:46:11 Bernardo: Perhaps you need to add your cardid to the hostap driver? Dec 12 07:53:23 Depends: update-modules, kernel-image-2.6.15-rc5, kernel-module-bluetooth-2.6 Dec 12 07:54:01 what is needed: module-init-tools-cross (not modutils-cross like it can be) and KERNEL_RELEASE set Dec 12 07:54:43 or we should install modinfo-cross as modinfo.26/modinfo.24 Dec 12 07:56:21 RP: it worked with all previous versions, so the cardid should be there Dec 12 07:56:41 I am assuming that it is something that got broke between rc4 and rc5 Dec 12 07:57:55 CIA-4: linux-openzaurus: added KERNEL_RELEASE to get module dependencies generated Dec 12 07:57:56 - it also need modinfo from module-init-tools-cross but thats other bug Dec 12 07:58:01 hrw|work: the kernel-image ipk is empty? Dec 12 07:58:04 Bernardo: In previous images from OE, the external module was used Dec 12 07:58:12 koen: Z one yes Dec 12 07:58:23 FILES_kernel-image = "" Dec 12 07:58:23 ALLOW_EMPTY = 1 Dec 12 07:58:35 ok Dec 12 07:59:51 as long as noone will be so crazy to hack sharp bootloader Dec 12 08:00:32 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc9968659... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files): Dec 12 08:00:32 linux-openzaurus: added KERNEL_RELEASE to get module dependencies generated Dec 12 08:00:32 - it also need modinfo from module-init-tools-cross but thats other bug Dec 12 08:00:39 I wonder if one could install LAB as zImage and use that as bootloader to boot other kernel (from sd or something) Dec 12 08:01:23 koen: where I can read about LAB? Dec 12 08:03:15 hrw|work: http://handhelds.org/projects/bootldr-ng.html Dec 12 08:03:34 hrw|work: it a linux kernel with a serial console that can boot other kernels Dec 12 08:03:59 kind of like a small initrd Dec 12 08:04:08 aha Dec 12 08:06:16 koen: so LAB is kernel+initrd in one? or just kernel which need initrd from somewhere? Dec 12 08:07:01 the terminal emulator is inside the kernel Dec 12 08:07:12 hey CosmicPenguin Dec 12 08:08:00 morning Dec 12 08:08:09 hi CosmicPenguin Dec 12 08:08:51 morning CosmicPenguin Dec 12 08:08:55 koen: your idea as having as zImage would rock Dec 12 08:09:33 XorA: We use it on the ipaq h2210 as a second stage bootloader Dec 12 08:09:47 needs some work, but it's quite nice already Dec 12 08:10:13 koen: users just dont get the need to reflash kernel, ipkg install kernel-blah.umbaumba would be nice Dec 12 08:10:16 koen: controlled only from serial? Dec 12 08:10:43 XorA: on collie I prefer reflashing Dec 12 08:11:25 hrw|work: if you wanted, you could load usbserial and use that Dec 12 08:11:29 hrw|work: only because its stuck on 2.6 Dec 12 08:11:38 but atm we only use real serial Dec 12 08:11:57 hrw|work: erm 2.4 Dec 12 08:11:59 XorA: no - because it has 16M flash only Dec 12 08:12:16 hrw|work: but if kernel is on mmc, what do you care for internal flash Dec 12 08:13:44 now when someone makes SD microdrives :-D Dec 12 08:15:56 hi people Dec 12 08:16:12 who is the admin of the hh.org wiki? ie. has the power to delete pages? Dec 12 08:16:32 bluelightning Dec 12 08:16:43 paule -at- handhelds.org Dec 12 08:17:44 koen: thank you! Dec 12 08:22:08 RP: what was the name for the 'boot from cf' patch again? Dec 12 08:28:17 XorA: rather 'kernel is on cf' - I dont count on sd/mmc support under 2.6 for collie Dec 12 08:30:47 | /home/hrw/devel/build/0915/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lgcc_eh Dec 12 08:30:50 ? Dec 12 08:31:20 I had that problem some months ago Dec 12 08:31:27 no idea how I solved that Dec 12 08:36:45 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf0e1a0a2... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: familiar-0.8.3: slide cvsdate forward Dec 12 08:41:29 time to add report to bugtracker Dec 12 08:42:46 that modinfo is major not blocker/critical Dec 12 08:44:40 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7c0002b5... 10/packages/pcmcia-cs/files/arm/pcmcia: pcmcia-cs: fix module loading on strongarm, courtesy Matthew Reimer Dec 12 08:44:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rce8e8e19... 10/packages/pcmcia-cs/files/arm/pcmcia: pcmcia-cs: fix module loading on strongarm, courtesy Matthew Reimer Dec 12 08:45:14 * XorA is confused by left/right controls on c7x0 with rc5 Dec 12 08:45:37 headphone l/r, mono on speaker? Dec 12 08:46:20 koen: pcmcia-cs for any strongarm fix or for h3600? Dec 12 08:46:29 any Dec 12 08:46:30 koen: headphone Dec 12 08:46:41 koen: left or right both control boths channels volume Dec 12 08:47:36 my good full volume is loud now Dec 12 08:47:58 XorA: I suspect that's a bug in the codec driver Dec 12 08:48:19 I have ideas on how to fix it... Dec 12 08:48:39 microphone is headphone left mono Dec 12 08:48:43 RP: mute also seems to turn the loud noises into square waves :-) Dec 12 08:49:01 I agree, what codec and control ? Dec 12 08:49:08 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524 'Module dependencies can not be generated in few situations' Dec 12 08:49:24 lrg: It'll be the both bits in the wm8731 Dec 12 08:49:31 ah Dec 12 08:49:37 I copied some code from the wm8750 abd it doesn't apply Dec 12 08:49:56 sound is looking good though Dec 12 08:50:08 its nice to be able to get woring sound just from one modprobe Dec 12 08:50:28 * RP was pleased with that :) Dec 12 08:50:44 Sound will resume after a suspend whilst playing audio now as well Dec 12 08:50:48 * lrg too Dec 12 08:51:19 RP: scary Dec 12 08:53:04 hmm, need to make mplayer obey vt's and could just suspend a playing video then Dec 12 08:53:29 XorA: indeed :) Dec 12 08:54:16 that would be really nice for on the train Dec 12 09:01:04 koen: what do you think about #524? Dec 12 09:01:34 sounds like a good idea Dec 12 09:01:42 I bet OOo needs modutils too Dec 12 09:03:55 and psmisc-cross Dec 12 09:04:31 it even requires PAM! Dec 12 09:04:57 Paula Amelia Monica? Dec 12 09:05:08 pluggable auth modules Dec 12 09:06:37 what about shipping prism3-support in handhelds-common.conf? Dec 12 09:07:18 koen: if lowflash does not get it then yes Dec 12 09:07:58 with the current zaurus hacks, the clamshells won't get it either Dec 12 09:09:23 so which variable was choosen as kernel 2.4/2.6 switcher? Dec 12 09:10:19 hrw|work: the zaurus machines should use overrides instead of duplicating configfiles in different locations Dec 12 09:10:53 the whole point of *-common.conf files is to centralize options Dec 12 09:11:43 koen: The zaurus config file does something quite different to handhelds-common and I really don't see the problem with it Dec 12 09:11:43 (excepting are possible, as always) Dec 12 09:12:13 koen: I know - but to get them cleaner we need unified kernel 2.4/2.6 switch variable in overrides. So I ask which it is? Dec 12 09:12:29 If the code in the two were identical, I'd see the problem but it isn't... Dec 12 09:13:12 hrw|work: Kernel switching isn't the issue here and I now prefer the inlude method to the overrides one in this case Dec 12 09:13:43 ok then - I dont have more question. my machine does not even need kernel switch;) Dec 12 09:15:32 Lets just bin 2.4 kernel support for c7x0 and cxx00 and then the whole problem goes away :) Dec 12 09:15:55 ( ;-) ) Dec 12 09:16:08 RP: what about tosa or poodle? Dec 12 09:16:21 right into the bin for toxic waste Dec 12 09:16:34 removing 2.4 for clamshel is something for which I can vote Dec 12 09:17:45 using of 2.4-crapix should be forbidden by international laws Dec 12 09:17:53 i had no idea clamshells had 2.4 kernels ;) Dec 12 09:18:34 * RP wishes he didn't Dec 12 09:20:33 ade|desk: take off AC, take off battery. hold DB keys, connect battery, press On/Off, pull DB keys - you will get 2.4 emergency boot (atleast on c7x0) Dec 12 09:43:10 http://www.bananaguard.com/ Dec 12 09:43:23 why didn't I think of that? Dec 12 09:43:53 which OS gives 'seconds from unix epoch' with date('%Y', time())? Dec 12 09:44:50 no idea Dec 12 09:45:03 one of our clients has such Dec 12 09:45:15 I do know that we'll need >32 bits in 2038 to handle unixtime Dec 12 09:45:35 * XorA will be old aged and not give a damn by then Dec 12 09:49:03 heh Dec 12 09:49:23 being 66 will rock Dec 12 09:49:24 our pda will eat dirt Dec 12 09:49:44 look on the bright side, we will all come out of retirement and earn $$$ fixing this. Dec 12 09:49:53 :) Dec 12 09:49:53 I fully expect when Im 66 UK will be a wasteland with no electricity to charge my PDA batteries Dec 12 09:49:54 66.. next year I will be 30 Dec 12 09:51:03 * koen will turn 23 in 16 days Dec 12 09:52:15 * Bernardo will turn 40 in 4 months Dec 12 09:52:31 * lrg will turn 32 in 2 months Dec 12 09:52:43 mickeyl in 14 days iirc Dec 12 09:52:55 34 in 14 days, yes. Dec 12 09:52:58 *sigh* Dec 12 09:53:05 time to add it into pim Dec 12 09:53:09 :) Dec 12 09:53:25 :) Dec 12 09:53:49 mickeyl: on the 25th? Bad luck... only one gift for christmas+birthday Dec 12 09:54:20 26th Dec 12 09:54:32 yeah, i always suffered because of this date Dec 12 09:54:56 when i was a kid there wasn't a chance to celebrate on the 26th. All other kids were busy with their relatives Dec 12 09:54:58 sorry, I meant the 26th Dec 12 09:55:16 it has changed now - many people can come on 26th, so it's ok Dec 12 09:55:22 :) Dec 12 09:55:40 I celebrated 26th last years with friends Dec 12 09:56:11 its my old nick day: Szczepan Dec 12 09:56:23 who will spell it correctly? :) Dec 12 09:57:33 hehe Dec 12 09:57:39 tough Dec 12 09:57:44 * mickeyl bites in his tounge trying that Dec 12 09:57:47 ouch Dec 12 09:57:56 shezepan ? Dec 12 09:59:00 hmm. how to write it fonetic... Dec 12 09:59:54 Shchepan maybe.. sz is hard, cz is hard Dec 12 10:03:12 mickeyl: good afternoon Dec 12 10:04:25 well, time to go, see you guys later Dec 12 10:04:40 good afternoon pb_, how are things? Dec 12 10:04:46 bye Dec 12 10:04:47 in other words: 26th is Saint Stephen's day Dec 12 10:05:42 ~seen justinp Dec 12 10:05:46 justinp was last seen on IRC in channel #openzaurus, 48d 15h 56m 29s ago, saying: 'AppleBoy: haven't really noticed, no. Wasn't watching when I was downloading. I'll try to remember to pay attention next time ;-)'. Dec 12 10:05:51 time for home Dec 12 10:11:52 time for home sounds nice Dec 12 10:19:01 mickeyl: ah, pretty good. our first product is on sale in the shops now, which is quite exciting. Dec 12 10:19:19 pb_: congrats. have a link? Dec 12 10:19:52 pb_: nice Dec 12 10:20:22 <_law_> hi Dec 12 10:20:31 mickeyl: try http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=srmr&page=title&r=ELEC&title=819525 Dec 12 10:20:36 <_law_> any news with hostap? Dec 12 10:21:31 _law_: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=c9968659a81b25f44fc1c28e45874da85f15684b Dec 12 10:21:31 night all Dec 12 10:22:26 pb_: pretty cool! Dec 12 10:22:45 _law_: rebuild module-init-tools-cross then kernel Dec 12 10:23:02 someone want to update m-i-t(-c) to 3.2.2? Dec 12 10:23:23 <_law_> hrw|work: ok i?ll try Dec 12 10:25:26 cu Dec 12 10:26:12 cu hrw Dec 12 10:26:16 night lar Dec 12 10:26:17 d Dec 12 10:26:18 man Dec 12 10:27:07 good evening Dec 12 10:28:32 hey pH5 Dec 12 10:29:14 hey koen|770 Dec 12 10:30:12 mickeyl: heh, thanks Dec 12 10:31:18 http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/601-8711991-7508969?asin=B0007U8MSA Dec 12 10:33:21 heh Dec 12 10:33:24 quite a gift Dec 12 10:34:48 is there a reason why some of the .la files in ${STAGING_LIBDIR} should contain installed=yes and some installed=no? Dec 12 10:35:50 i learned yesterday that binaries linking against installed=yes libraries contain rpath references to the staging libdir Dec 12 10:47:06 morning kergoth **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Dec 12 10:50:11 2005 Dec 12 10:54:31 hey Dec 12 10:57:29 kergoth: had any exciting job offers lately? Dec 12 10:59:34 hi Dec 12 10:59:44 hey Mardy Dec 12 11:00:30 no :\ Dec 12 11:18:19 ~seen do13 Dec 12 11:18:30 do13 is currently on #oe (22h 51m 16s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 6h 28m 2s Dec 12 11:33:17 re Dec 12 11:34:56 lrg: Thanks, mail received. Dec 12 11:35:51 someone know is it possible to look who manufactured card? I have /sys/block/mmcblk0/device/manfid but want to check who it is Dec 12 11:42:47 * CosmicPenguin shrugs Dec 12 11:43:01 I know the format of the information is CIS, so maybe they're the same as the CIS manfids? Dec 12 11:43:47 who knows. Dec 12 11:44:43 yah, probably Dec 12 12:05:13 does gitweb access does not allow to go older then some revs? Dec 12 12:06:48 probably Dec 12 12:06:54 ;( Dec 12 12:07:01 git isn't what I'd call 'well designed' Dec 12 12:07:02 I wanted to trace mmc subsystem changes Dec 12 12:30:20 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfd926748... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: h2200 defconfig: compile in SD support Dec 12 12:30:41 mmm... SD support Dec 12 12:30:53 yeah Dec 12 12:31:05 took me a week to figure out why booting from SD doesn't work Dec 12 12:31:11 heh Dec 12 12:31:26 booting from SD... something which I want to do Dec 12 12:32:17 cu Dec 12 12:32:28 I enabled preempt, fastfpe and deadline IO too Dec 12 12:32:57 3 changes at once so I'm sure it will break for the testers Dec 12 12:45:34 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rdcaee108... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: h2200 defconfig: compile in sd modules Dec 12 13:24:46 * Philippe is back (gone 21:32:52) Dec 12 13:55:42 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra6102a3e... 10/packages/gpe-timesheet/gpe-timesheet_0.19.bb: gpe-timesheet: add 0.19 release Dec 12 16:08:16 RP: wget finished: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/mirror/sam.rpsys.net/openzaurus/autobuild/ Dec 12 16:33:01 * Philippe is away: visual contact - dreamland Dec 12 17:36:37 I can't svn...svn: Can't connect to host 'svn.berlios.de': The timeout specified has expired Dec 12 17:36:44 is there a different server? Dec 12 17:55:03 anyone? Dec 12 17:57:55 well, it works now, thanks anyway Dec 12 18:11:08 morning all, is anyone else having a monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match? i'm using the OE.db file from ewi546.ewi....etc is anyone else getting the same error or know a fix? Dec 12 18:33:38 Guy's FYI, just tried a build of OZ3.5.4 for tosa from scratch again. as I do once a week and it dies in the compile of psmisc Dec 12 18:43:52 hey Geo_KM: have u updated the db and branch and got a misuse: database schemas do not match? or any other errors while updating? Dec 12 19:29:17 ZonE-HaKin9|wrk: Yeah I got heaps of errors, let me try again and see what it was Dec 12 19:31:29 ZonE-HaKin9|wrk: Actually nah the errors I got are heaps of these..... Dec 12 19:31:32 monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet ea1b1fd1c744adb0b6a3d4bfd0d80654e097fee8 with unmet dependencies Dec 12 19:39:49 NOTE: Fetch cvs://anoncvs:@savannah.nongnu.org/cvsroot/quilt;method=ext;rsh=ssh;module=quilt;tag=VER_0_42 Dec 12 19:39:53 CVS moved to cvs.savannah.[non]gnu.org Dec 12 19:39:55 Check http://savannah.gnu.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=4168 for details. Dec 12 19:39:58 Anonymous access over SSH is replaced by the (more efficient) pserver. Dec 12 19:40:08 quilt seems broke, any suggestions? Dec 12 19:41:24 Geo_KM: i got them with my current oe.db, so i d/l a new one from ewi546.ewi... then started to get misuse: database schemas do not match? or any other errors while updating Dec 12 19:52:53 ZonE-HaKin9|wrk: Maybe its time for a fresh load of the db. from scratch. Dec 12 19:58:05 anyone tell me why quilt is broken? Dec 12 20:01:30 Geo_KM: maybe... but my laptop is only a PIII-700 so would probly take me days :( Dec 12 20:02:40 Zero_Chaos: quilt seems fine on my sys, try deleting/move/rename the build/tmp dir and start again, otherwise i have no idea sorry Dec 12 20:05:10 ZonE-HaKin9|wrk: you read my error? Dec 12 20:07:01 how do I pull cvs from pserver instead of ssh? Dec 12 20:10:19 Zero_Chaos: no idea... check the OE wiki may have the info u seek Dec 12 20:58:38 :pserver:anonymous@blah.blah:/where/we/want/to/go Dec 12 21:12:10 emte_: that was to me? where do I put it? Dec 13 01:29:32 morning all Dec 13 01:48:33 <_law_> morning Dec 13 01:48:52 <_law_> could someone tell my why install -m 0755 ${S}/etc/ppp/peers/3g-peer ${D}${sysconfdir}/ppp/peers/3g-peer Dec 13 01:48:55 <_law_> dont work Dec 13 01:49:23 <_law_> alway get: !!! Failed to move ./etc/ppp/peers to /home/law/devel/oe/build/husky_gpe_002/tmp/work/law-configs-0.0.1-r0/install/law-configs/./etc/ppp/peers Dec 13 01:49:23 <_law_> !!! [Errno 39] Directory not empty Dec 13 01:49:25 _law_: I have no frelling idea! Dec 13 01:49:46 hehe, frelling. i miss that show :( Dec 13 01:52:00 <_law_> koen your solution (copy the whole dir) also doesnt work :-( Dec 13 01:53:41 <_law_> my bb file (http://pastebin.com/462012) Dec 13 02:06:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra6dfe9e9... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: Dec 13 02:06:47 h2200 defconfig: tweaks Dec 13 02:06:47 * compile in hamcop dma Dec 13 02:06:47 * change localversion to 'openembedded' Dec 13 02:22:03 morning Dec 13 02:27:51 morning Dec 13 02:28:37 morning XorA , hrw|work Dec 13 02:29:18 cedric: Out of interest do you know what the current status of poodle 2.6 is? Dec 13 02:33:15 heh.. looks like sdcard experiments need to wait until evening Dec 13 02:58:09 <[lala]> hi guys Dec 13 02:59:09 <[lala]> hrw|work: i have installed an usb kbd on my zaurus but i can't find any suitable keymaps. is there a pkg with keymaps somewhere in oz? Dec 13 02:59:39 what doesn this mean: monotone: warning: discarding revision data packet ea1b1fd1c744adb0b6a3d4bfd0d80654e097fee8 with unmet dependencies Dec 13 02:59:50 [lala]: dont know **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Dec 13 02:59:56 2005