**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 02:59:56 2005 Dec 14 03:00:51 RP: thank above Dec 14 03:00:58 RP:arm-linux-ld: unrecognized option '-Wl,-rpath-link,/opt/oe/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib' Dec 14 03:01:41 pezi: there is no -= or =- modifiers Dec 14 03:01:47 <[lala]> oyo: those flags are only for linking with arm-linux-gcc Dec 14 03:02:19 lala : these flags is necessary? Dec 14 03:02:39 <[lala]> oyo: either rewrite your makefile to use gcc as linker or empty ldflags for that package Dec 14 03:03:32 would _RDEPENDS = " " including all necessary packages without ppp package work? Dec 14 03:04:40 what about setting ipkg-utils to 20050401 (last change was 20050330)? Dec 14 03:04:40 lala : I remember that have some ways to empty ldflags . Dec 14 03:05:49 <[lala]> oyo: e.g. oe_runmake LDFLAGS= Dec 14 03:06:35 lala : how to set ldflag is null in bbfile? Dec 14 03:06:49 oe_runmake LDFLAGS="" ? Dec 14 03:07:27 <[lala]> in do_compile of the .bb file Dec 14 03:07:29 <[lala]> yes Dec 14 03:07:48 lala : thank a lot , let me try .: ) Dec 14 03:10:32 <_law_> mplayer works with ogg and wav but now with mp3 Dec 14 03:10:42 <_law_> internal speaker also work :-) Dec 14 03:23:12 good morning Dec 14 03:23:35 hi Bernardo Dec 14 03:25:29 morning Dec 14 03:26:40 hi Bernardo, mickeyl Dec 14 03:26:53 hrw|work: you said yesterday on #opie that opie on qt/embedded was a dead end, why? Dec 14 03:28:34 Bernardo: I dont see qtopia as platform for which any new serious software will be written Dec 14 03:28:44 hi mickeyl Dec 14 03:29:06 so what alternatives do we have? malmo? Dec 14 03:29:36 Bernardo: moving opie to x11 world Dec 14 03:30:21 so it would be something more of a kde-light Dec 14 03:30:49 who knows.. Dec 14 03:31:15 kde light would be nice :-) Dec 14 03:31:52 opie on gtk would be even nicer :-) Dec 14 03:32:11 nah Dec 14 03:32:24 * Bernardo shivers thinking on opie on gtk Dec 14 03:32:40 * XorA hides as he didnt realise mickeyl was awake Dec 14 03:32:47 :)) Dec 14 03:33:10 though I must say, I prefer gpe to gnome, and I prefer opie to kde, so both projects are onto a good thing Dec 14 03:36:24 actually, i'm more picky when it comes to the language than when it comes to widget sets Dec 14 03:36:31 does anybody have an opinion on this libtool issue? http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/48/4833.html Dec 14 03:37:24 mickeyl: do it in Khmer language Dec 14 03:37:41 I'm more picky on the base "attitude" - and the reasons linus posted to not use gnome are the same as I have Dec 14 03:39:00 'gnome is too simple' one? Dec 14 03:40:51 vs gnome is too hard to configure (I do hate gconf) Dec 14 03:41:38 gconf-editor... argh Dec 14 03:42:38 hey guys...i have a question... Dec 14 03:42:58 i just built gpe-image...and my touchscreen stopped working... Dec 14 03:43:00 * XorA really misses the days of a couple of .rc files in text Dec 14 03:43:00 LoDown: dont ask to ask but ask Dec 14 03:43:12 LoDown: machine? Dec 14 03:43:25 alright hrw Dec 14 03:43:28 h5555 Dec 14 03:43:33 so h5400 Dec 14 03:43:49 i flashed it back to an older version...and it is working again... Dec 14 03:44:01 LoDown: rm /etc/pointercal and recalibrate Dec 14 03:44:37 ok...i will try that...thank you hrw|work Dec 14 03:46:15 btw., we should experiment with shipping precomputed /etc/pointercal Dec 14 03:46:27 i guess on some models it will be accurate enough Dec 14 03:46:57 mickeyl: what about those where it wont be? Dec 14 03:47:16 hrw|work: s/models/series/ Dec 14 03:47:31 someone with c7x0 can show his pointercal? Dec 14 03:47:46 12385 -11 -2745024 -84 8666 -1958788 65536 on my c760 Dec 14 03:48:08 from memory, that looks pretty close to mine, but I need to check on the actual device Dec 14 03:53:04 good morning mickeyl Dec 14 03:57:02 morning pb_ Dec 14 03:57:06 he mickeyl Dec 14 03:57:11 tachchen woglinde Dec 14 03:57:31 mickeyl did you look at xynth? Dec 14 03:58:17 woglinde: the windowing system? Dec 14 03:58:41 mickeyl yes Dec 14 03:59:48 XorA: ping Dec 14 04:00:20 woglinde: this is the first time i heard about it. I'm printing the white paper about it Dec 14 04:02:13 hrw|work: pong Dec 14 04:02:25 XorA: show your /etc/pointercal from husky Dec 14 04:02:48 mickeyl *g* Dec 14 04:02:53 12548 -99 -2971592 -82 8683 -1955220 65536 Dec 14 04:03:05 mickeyl how goes your diserta XorA: thx. Dec 14 04:05:55 woglinde: slow as molasses :D Dec 14 04:11:07 bye Dec 14 04:42:46 hrw|work, i just flashed my iPaq with the lastest image again...and I don't have /etc/pointercal... Dec 14 04:43:18 my system is trying to calibrate...but the touchscreen is not reading any input...and the LCD back light is not turning on... Dec 14 04:43:25 LoDown : of course as this file missing will force it to claibrate Dec 14 04:43:35 yes... Dec 14 04:43:37 looks like kernel problem maybe or tslib.. Dec 14 04:43:37 LoDown arg Dec 14 04:43:55 do you have usb access ? Dec 14 04:44:07 or console in general ? Dec 14 04:44:11 rob_w-cgi, i have serial access.... Dec 14 04:44:15 yes...i am using minicom now... Dec 14 04:45:08 you maybe wanna check the /dev/input files if they give you any output .. then /etc/tslib.conf configures the output Dec 14 04:45:41 ok... Dec 14 04:45:54 install tslib-utils and use ts_print/ts_print_raw Dec 14 04:46:01 maybe TSLIB_DEVICE is wrong etc.. Dec 14 04:46:02 hmm...my /dev/input is empty Dec 14 04:46:14 LoDown: 2.4 or 2.6? Dec 14 04:46:35 2.4 Dec 14 04:46:48 hrw|work: gpe uses detect-stylus to find the right ts device Dec 14 04:46:57 koen: aha Dec 14 04:47:30 TSLIB_TSDEVICE=/dev/touchscreen/0raw Dec 14 04:48:04 on h5xxx? Dec 14 04:48:09 yes Dec 14 04:48:13 leave the battery out for a few hours Dec 14 04:48:23 ok...and then? Dec 14 04:48:34 then you ts will automagically work again Dec 14 04:48:38 your* Dec 14 04:48:40 just start up as normal? ...ok Dec 14 04:48:59 it's one of those machine 'features' Dec 14 04:49:05 ah... :-D Dec 14 04:49:12 it worked fine under an older image... Dec 14 04:49:36 when i flashed to the newest image it stopped working...so I flashed back, and it worked fine... Dec 14 04:49:46 and then back to the newest...and it was not working... Dec 14 04:49:56 oh well... Dec 14 04:51:04 thank you all for your help... Dec 14 04:51:43 koen: heh those ipaq features.. friend upgraded from fam 0.8 to 0.8.2 and now complain about fscked apm each time when we meet Dec 14 04:55:41 koen: so all detect-stylus do is tries to find proper ts interface? Dec 14 04:58:18 hrw|work: yes and set TSLIB_* vars Dec 14 04:58:37 if you remove the last ~20 lines from the .c file it won't even require X Dec 14 04:59:23 koen: does not our images come with predefined TSLIB_* vars already? Dec 14 04:59:40 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * red866985... 10/packages/libcontactsdb/libcontactsdb_cvs.bb: libcontactsdb: add libcontactsdb, needed by gpe-contacts cvs Dec 14 05:00:21 koen: and it does not check sharp TS entries.. Dec 14 05:08:51 hrw|work: TSLIB_TSDEVICE=`detect-stylus --device` Dec 14 05:09:34 hrw|work: that's why opie is broken on hx4700 and gpe works Dec 14 05:14:41 cool, I didn`t know about this led blinking in the akita! Dec 14 05:15:24 koen: yhym. Dec 14 05:16:08 hrw|work: but yes, for some devices gpe ships hardcoded ts entries Dec 14 05:16:55 koen: so detect-stylus x11-less could be nice addition to images Dec 14 05:17:15 hrw|work: yes Dec 14 05:17:25 I've been saying that for almost a year now Dec 14 05:17:41 ever since some 2.6 update reversed event1 and event0 on my h2210 Dec 14 05:17:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbdc1a306... 10/packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_cvs.bb: gpe-contacts: Add dependency on libcontactsdb Dec 14 05:17:57 whoops sorry, missed that Dec 14 05:18:08 :) Dec 14 05:20:45 my akita enters sleeping mode but doesn't wake up? any trick or something? Dec 14 05:21:44 katossi_uni: what kernel, 2.6? Dec 14 05:22:38 yeps Dec 14 05:22:49 but but an old 2.6.14 it worked! Dec 14 05:23:13 give it some itme Dec 14 05:23:16 time Dec 14 05:23:28 not it's a 2.6.14 + 2.6.15 Dec 14 05:23:51 there is a i2c timeout, I manage to get mine to recover if I press the "ok" button for some time - 10-15 secs Dec 14 05:24:15 but I think RP fixed that since the monotone upgrade Dec 14 05:24:30 when did you build your image? Dec 14 05:25:39 Bernardo: yesterday Dec 14 05:26:01 I'll try that Dec 14 05:28:48 I have to flash the one I built tonight, will see if it still has the same problems Dec 14 05:29:02 but right now I need to use my akita for work... Dec 14 05:29:17 no problem, thx Dec 14 05:45:33 koen...shouldn't I have a TSLIB_CONFFILE in my environment variables? Dec 14 05:45:44 nvm...it is showing up...i'm an idiot Dec 14 05:45:47 hi Dec 14 05:46:13 RP: on my borzoi at /home is the flash mounted... is it right? Dec 14 05:47:44 greentux: No, that was fixed in OE recently Dec 14 05:48:08 RP: fine ;) Dec 14 05:48:24 RP: will recieve the fax in the next 2 hours ... Dec 14 05:49:01 greentux: ah, good, thanks Dec 14 05:49:30 somebody watched some instabilities while eject/insert usb devices? Dec 14 05:49:50 i reinserted a usb-network adapter sometimes. the udhcpc stops the whole Z... Dec 14 05:49:53 It usually works for me... Dec 14 06:04:08 greentux: Not good. It shouldn't be able to lock the Z up... Dec 14 06:04:27 * gridzero bangs his head against http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=345 - does anyone know if I can just use uicmoc-native4 instead of uicmoc-native (assuming that v4 is 64-bit clean) and if so how? Dec 14 06:04:59 or are there oddities that requier an older version? Dec 14 06:05:41 qt/e and oddities, who would think of that? Dec 14 06:07:51 gridzero: qt/e does not compile cleanly with anything newer then gcc 2.95 and you want it to be 64bit clean? Dec 14 06:08:26 64bit clean is fluff Dec 14 06:08:59 compiling is fluff Dec 14 06:09:53 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc7515f28... 10/packages/gtk+/ (71 files in 6 dirs): gtk+: drop older 2.8 versions 2.8.[0-6] Dec 14 06:10:05 heh Dec 14 06:10:07 71 files Dec 14 06:11:29 ah well, I get to choose then... either keep replacing (int) with (intptr_t) in the hope of getting something that eventually compiles (and maybe runs), or go back to my 32bit box and have everything take 3 times as long, I guess.... :-/ Dec 14 06:12:07 gridzero: or use 64bit machine in 32bit chroot Dec 14 06:13:20 I could, I guess, but that sounds a bit too hacky for this nice new box I was trying to keep clean... :) Dec 14 06:14:42 koen: one could take this as a sign that our gtk is too heavily patched Dec 14 06:16:35 true Dec 14 06:19:16 pH5: 1st maemo one was even more patched Dec 14 06:19:50 hrw|work: that's an explanation, no excuse ;) Dec 14 06:20:01 ;) Dec 14 06:30:40 someone use firefox on pda? on desktop it take >150M for 3 tabs... Dec 14 06:31:10 hrw|work: i do Dec 14 06:32:44 XorA: how much ram it take? Dec 14 06:34:13 less than 64 Dec 14 06:34:23 with 2 tabs Dec 14 06:35:20 maybe 1.5 was made memoryhog.. Dec 14 06:35:29 I dont remember when used 1.0.x Dec 14 06:35:56 last I tried 1.5 on desktop it sucked big time speed/memory wise Dec 14 06:37:28 hrw|work: 1.0.X on FC4 is taking 128M for register.co.uk Dec 14 06:41:49 hrw|work: one day we can dream of minimo and gpe-mini-browser being the bees knees PDA browsers Dec 14 06:56:12 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r2f988c9c... 10/packages/avahi/ (16 files in 5 dirs): avahi: fix 0.6.1 for dbus 0.60, remove old versions 0.[1-5] Dec 14 07:15:38 what package provides gpe mini-browser? Dec 14 07:16:06 guess :) Dec 14 07:16:11 gpe-mini-browser? Dec 14 07:16:41 ar x foo.ipk | tar zxf control.tar.gz | grep OE control Dec 14 07:17:22 that should return the .bb file name Dec 14 07:18:41 I want to get rid of it, but I didn`t find it in meta-gpe Dec 14 07:23:43 is it possible to say that ext2 is used as the fs for the image? Dec 14 07:24:01 for what image? Dec 14 07:24:10 the OS image Dec 14 07:24:18 the rootfs Dec 14 07:24:34 jffs or cramfs are the image fs of choice atm i think Dec 14 07:25:22 IMAGE_FSTYPE="jffs2 tar ext2" Dec 14 07:25:38 that will give you 3 images Dec 14 07:26:20 okay Dec 14 07:26:38 and does exist a variable in which I write how large the image should be? Dec 14 07:26:57 cobelius yes it exists Dec 14 07:27:07 and what is the name of it? Dec 14 07:27:10 and what is the name of it? Dec 14 07:27:12 sorry Dec 14 07:27:43 look in the conf directory for you hardware model Dec 14 07:27:51 your Dec 14 07:28:08 EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext2 = "" Dec 14 07:28:53 Would ROOT_FLASH_SIZE also work? Dec 14 07:29:00 no Dec 14 07:29:27 in theory it should, but it doesn't do much usefull stuff at the moment Dec 14 07:29:44 partially because a lot of machine lie about their flashsize Dec 14 07:30:04 see http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=439 Dec 14 07:31:01 For wich program are the options of EXTRA_IMAGECMD_ext2 for? Dec 14 07:31:18 genext2fs Dec 14 07:32:38 okay, thanks a lot Dec 14 07:40:39 gridzero: I managed to build most stuff on my athlon64, only to get a "image too big for the akita" error when buildingthe kernel, so I'd guess it's better to stick to 32bits for now... Dec 14 07:47:40 I have openssh as required package for my custom image, it compiles, but I don't see it in the image, how could I debug this and find why is not being installed? Dec 14 07:48:08 hey mickeyl Dec 14 07:50:29 katossi_uni: add openssh to BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS Dec 14 07:51:08 Bernardo: is that 2.6.14-2.6.15-rc2 ? Dec 14 07:52:22 I added it to the RDEPENDS in my modified bootstrap.bb Dec 14 07:52:27 ade|desk: no, it was rc5, and it was building at the same time perfectly on a athlon32 beside it Dec 14 07:52:46 Bernardo: ah ok Dec 14 07:53:29 hrw|work: in which file should I do that? Dec 14 07:55:00 hi zecke Dec 14 07:56:02 <_law_> gnumerice doesnt build (http://pastebin.com/463724) any ideas? Dec 14 07:56:16 katossi_uni: any config (if you use task-bootstrap) Dec 14 07:56:33 <_law_> i mean gnumeric Dec 14 07:56:52 I use a custom version of task-bootstrap, and openssh is in DEPEND and RDEPEND Dec 14 07:57:38 <_law_> i need gtk-dev on host ;-) Dec 14 07:57:54 katossi_uni: so you dont need nothing more Dec 14 07:58:22 I thought so, but I have no ssh server or anything on the pda Dec 14 07:58:41 I guess there's a problem in the installation stage or something Dec 14 08:00:33 katossi_uni: openssh provide few packages Dec 14 08:01:32 at least a ssh client or server, I was expecting Dec 14 08:01:50 is there any log that shows if the package was installed? Dec 14 08:02:30 katossi_uni: tmp/work/*image/temp/log.do_rootfs* Dec 14 08:03:31 I'm trying to install oe on a new build machine (following the wiki) and have run into a monotone issue. I have monotone 0.23 installed and after downloading todays db snapshot I get a "database schemas do not match" when trying to do a checkout (wiki stage 6) Dec 14 08:03:57 lrg because the snapshot ist monotone 0.24 Dec 14 08:04:00 lrg|home: you need monotone 0.24 Dec 14 08:04:10 ah thnaks Dec 14 08:18:20 hrw|work: can you please check this and tell me if it's normal : http://pastebin.com/463751 Dec 14 08:22:42 katossi_uni: yes Dec 14 08:28:16 hrw|work: I have to leave, or I'll miss the bus, thx for your help, I'll ask you later Dec 14 08:28:22 bye all Dec 14 08:30:15 np Dec 14 08:31:50 so...leaving the battery out of my iPaq for a couple hours did not solve the problem... Dec 14 08:32:14 the touchscreen is still not reacting to input...and the LCD backlight still does not come on... Dec 14 08:32:32 I got answer from rmk Dec 14 08:33:41 yes? Dec 14 08:34:29 LoDown: thats for my card problem Dec 14 08:34:37 got another place to hack Dec 14 08:34:48 ah...sorry :-D Dec 14 08:35:39 np Dec 14 08:40:48 hrw|work: what did rmk have to say ? Dec 14 08:41:08 ade|desk: increase timeout for command Dec 14 08:41:22 hrw|work: It'll be interesting to see if it helps Dec 14 08:41:46 RP: me too Dec 14 08:42:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r95588e59... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: familiar 0.8.3: add note on zap-root-passwd Dec 14 08:47:24 koen, you around? Dec 14 08:49:24 RP: ;( Dec 14 08:49:54 RP: I'll reboot to have clean enviroment and will restart test Dec 14 08:50:09 hrw|work: It failed? Dec 14 08:52:54 yes Dec 14 08:53:08 maximum timeout for command... Dec 14 08:53:40 hrw|work: Another test might be to limit the speed the card runs at and see if that helps... Dec 14 08:53:58 RP: tell me how and I'll do it Dec 14 08:57:44 rebooted, ddtest started Dec 14 08:58:57 failed after 70s Dec 14 08:59:23 hrw|work: Try forcing MMC_CLKRT to 6 in pxamci_start_cmd Dec 14 09:00:15 If that works, try 5, 4, 3 etc. That will speed up the clock to the mmc card each time trying to make it go faster... Dec 14 09:00:36 0=20Mhz, 6 = 20Mhz/64 Dec 14 09:01:19 ok. but not now - I have to go now Dec 14 09:01:23 hrw|work: The PXA Developers Guide gives info about what each of these registers do Dec 14 09:02:37 ok Dec 14 09:03:14 hrw|work: This is all just guesswork but if it works, it might mean we need that flowchart I mentioned Dec 14 09:03:15 http://www.directfb.org/images/RIP-X.png lol Dec 14 09:07:10 zecke: could you point me somewhere i can learn howto setup crosstools in fbsd ? Dec 14 09:09:12 RP: http://www.hrw.one.pl/tmp/mmclog2.txt Dec 14 09:09:43 cu Dec 14 09:10:59 CSMan: I use OE for generating my toolchain :} (with some manual handediting) Dec 14 09:12:12 hmm, because i found arm-elf-* in ports Dec 14 09:12:41 zecke: handediting at paths or specific freebsd stuff ? Dec 14 09:13:05 zecke: did you push that libgcc fix? Dec 14 09:13:36 koen: good question Dec 14 09:14:16 koen: it sits on ewi... Dec 14 09:15:20 zecke: ? Dec 14 09:21:44 koen|770: let us see what I broke Dec 14 09:31:32 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4648f865... 10/packages/gcc/gcc-package-cross.inc: Dec 14 09:31:32 packages/gcc/gcc-package-cross.inc: Dec 14 09:31:32 Apply patch from Andreas Oberritter to use the right Dec 14 09:31:32 path for libgcc_s.so.* when striping. Dec 14 09:53:44 hi Dec 14 09:58:52 im trying to get started with oe, i read through local.conf but theres no conf file for my machine under /stuff/org.openembedded.dev/conf/machine/ and im not sure what distro should i set ... im really lost Dec 14 10:04:51 where/how should i get started? Dec 14 10:05:23 What machine are you building for? Dec 14 10:05:38 familiar would be a good choice for a pda distro :) Dec 14 10:07:18 and i think you can reuse the blueangel config Dec 14 10:08:52 CosmicPenguin: htc universal Dec 14 10:09:22 thats a new one to me Dec 14 10:10:45 yes, afaik theres no project for this one... so i was hoping i could manage to do something myself... Dec 14 10:12:09 url? Dec 14 10:13:33 url of what? Dec 14 10:13:43 describing the device? Dec 14 10:14:05 I guess I could have googled it Dec 14 10:14:09 ive just been told there's someone already working on it Dec 14 10:14:18 let me see Dec 14 10:14:53 Whats the processor? Dec 14 10:15:16 arm Dec 14 10:15:20 its a ... Dec 14 10:15:21 hmm Dec 14 10:15:30 intel blueverde i think Dec 14 10:15:45 pxa270 iirc Dec 14 10:26:51 http://reviews.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/handhelds/0,39023880,39234854,00.htm Dec 14 10:27:15 anyway how do i get started? i never cross-compiled before Dec 14 10:32:26 oxi: set DISTRO to familiar-0.8.3 (after removing the bbfatal line from conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf) and set the machine to the one the blueangel uses Dec 14 10:32:44 that should be a good start Dec 14 10:33:00 i know how to write c++, but its just that this oe thing is out of my scope for the moment, so im willing to help port the thing Dec 14 10:33:35 i already did that im getting lots of errors when compiling nano Dec 14 10:34:18 thanks btw :) Dec 14 10:40:57 im obviously missing something very silly... i get lots of "ERROR: name 'base_set_filespath' is not defined while parsing" Dec 14 10:45:29 are you using bitbake from svn? Dec 14 10:45:52 i just found i had a bad BB path Dec 14 10:45:55 whats svn? Dec 14 10:46:07 but now im getting another error Dec 14 10:49:58 <[lala]> is there a working bugtracking available? Dec 14 10:50:26 <[lala]> bugs.openembedded.org <- nonworking Dec 14 10:50:35 [lala]: It works here? Dec 14 10:51:02 <[lala]> i just get a place holder page from treke.net Dec 14 10:51:32 <[lala]> quilt download is no longer working Dec 14 10:51:41 <[lala]> they changed there cvs to pserver Dec 14 10:52:26 [lala]: That page works here so perhaps although I did remeber seeing something about there having been some issues with treke's server recently so perhaps DNS is still updaing or something Dec 14 10:52:39 update your monotone tree Dec 14 10:52:46 <[lala]> koen|770: i just did Dec 14 10:53:14 <[lala]> maybe its a cache issue from bitbake again Dec 14 10:54:31 [lala]: In the bug report it mentions you might have to remove the svn files from your sources directory Dec 14 10:54:57 <[lala]> i see Dec 14 10:55:22 <[lala]> i'll try that after i have finished compiling the rc5 kernel Dec 14 10:55:56 <[lala]> do you know if there where any usbfs fixes between rc2 and rc5? Dec 14 10:56:18 <[lala]> i have a strange problem with an usb etoken here Dec 14 10:57:02 [lala]: The best place to look would be the mainline git tree. I have seen usb patches but can't remember the specifics Dec 14 10:58:10 <[lala]> yeah, i'm just looking into the kernel changelogs from kernel.org Dec 14 11:00:33 yay! Dec 14 11:00:37 eabi support Dec 14 11:01:17 koen|770: in OE? :) Dec 14 11:01:28 in the oe ml :) Dec 14 11:01:29 <_law_> XorA|gone: abiword doesnt work :-( Dec 14 11:01:39 eabiword ;) Dec 14 11:03:26 Very nice. Perhaps he's seeing a PREFERRED_VERSION and PREFERRED_PROVIDER interaction Dec 14 11:03:49 <_law_> how can i install dejavu fonts? Dec 14 11:03:52 or whetever that bug I fixed was,,, Dec 14 11:04:03 how do i select a branch? i did "monotone --db=/oe/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083" and "monotone --db=/oe/oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de org.openembedded.oz354fam083" and also set local.conf " BBFILES := "/oe/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/*/*.bb" " but its yet telling me: " ERROR: Unable to parse conf/bitbake.conf (conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf:7: unparsed line: '"$ Dec 14 11:05:13 its opening the file under org.openembedded.dev instead of the one under org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Dec 14 11:06:33 I suspect BBPATH still points to the .dev location Dec 14 11:08:05 <[lala]> RP: removing the sources dir has fixed the quilt issue - thanks! Dec 14 11:08:07 oops o:) Dec 14 11:08:27 thank you koen Dec 14 11:09:10 argh Dec 14 11:09:12 boost sucks Dec 14 11:09:14 it really really sucks Dec 14 11:09:29 th ec++ lib? Dec 14 11:09:36 yeah Dec 14 11:09:43 why? Dec 14 11:09:50 it's c++ Dec 14 11:10:03 * koen hates c++ more than c Dec 14 11:10:05 And it won't compile on my amd64 Dec 14 11:10:10 so maybe gentoo sucks Dec 14 11:10:16 somebody sucks, thats for sure Dec 14 11:10:25 gentoo amd64 also here :) Dec 14 11:10:33 g3nt00 sucks Dec 14 11:10:38 :P Dec 14 11:10:49 Really, the only thing that doesn't suck in this situation is obviously the AMD64 Dec 14 11:10:54 heh Dec 14 11:11:25 when will amd launch a arm cpu? Dec 14 11:11:40 I'm getting sick of xscales Dec 14 11:11:42 The day after never Dec 14 11:11:50 We're all about the x86 everywhere mantra Dec 14 11:12:07 isnt boost intented to provide typedefs for different integer lengths?... how could that not work on amd64... Dec 14 11:12:12 alchemy is mips, right? Dec 14 11:12:20 yeah Dec 14 11:13:27 so, to be fair, we're "x86 everywhere... starting... now" Dec 14 11:18:08 CosmicPenguin, monotone runs on my athlon (which is why you care about boost?) Dec 14 11:29:58 * Philippe is back (gone 19:48:35) Dec 14 11:31:41 http://pastebin.com/464009 <----- why? Dec 14 11:31:44 Crofton: something funky about my compiler I guess - boost gets stuck on a file and it never completes Dec 14 11:32:05 it works on FC4 :) Dec 14 11:32:24 So I blame gentoo Dec 14 11:32:36 gentoo is for ricers :) Dec 14 11:32:38 or Redhat for not telling everyone about the fix Dec 14 11:32:59 the patches should be in the soure rpm :) Dec 14 11:33:02 whatever is the 1337 :-D Dec 14 11:33:05 oxi: you need this patch: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=62a13cceccb2a9f9a837a47331ce5a6c671dec67&id2=71d0721314ae057e3f023995018fa44ebf288004 Dec 14 11:33:18 *gentoo... Dec 14 11:34:57 thank you koen Dec 14 11:35:50 oxi: it will fail on some parts I think, but it should fix most SRC_URIs Dec 14 11:35:57 ~lart savannah.gnu.org Dec 14 11:35:57 * ibot beats savannah.gnu.org over the head with a microkernel Dec 14 11:36:32 koen...taking the battery out of my iPaq did not fix the problem.. Dec 14 11:36:47 do you have any other ideas that I might pursue to get my touch screen working? Dec 14 11:36:55 the LCD backlight isn't even coming on either... Dec 14 11:37:30 try leaving out the battery overnight Dec 14 11:37:49 ok :-D Dec 14 11:39:39 hey Dec 14 11:40:08 hey zecke Dec 14 11:40:17 bad zecke ! Dec 14 11:40:29 you didn't pull + update before pushing Dec 14 11:41:41 koen: I did Dec 14 11:42:04 koen: look in my bash history on ewi Dec 14 11:42:26 check how far back that merge goes Dec 14 11:43:37 koen: weird. I have comitted that change somewhen after replacing the oe.db Dec 14 11:43:56 koen: now I haved pulled, merged, update, pushed... Dec 14 11:44:06 koen: did I revert anything? Dec 14 11:44:53 no, just a huuuuge merge Dec 14 11:45:24 koen: how did that happen, how can I avoid it next time? Dec 14 11:49:30 pull + update before committing Dec 14 11:50:34 do13: ping Dec 14 11:51:02 good evening, btw. Dec 14 11:51:24 hey mickeyl Dec 14 11:51:28 mickeyl: eabi! Dec 14 11:51:32 yeah! Dec 14 11:51:36 bero rocks Dec 14 11:52:03 so in a few moment you can build a eabi gcc4 qt4 opie image ;) Dec 14 11:52:39 * mickeyl sings the Ângström song Dec 14 11:52:46 mickeyl: what did he do? Dec 14 11:52:54 what is the problem with the glibc part? Dec 14 11:53:10 mickeyl: ahhh Dec 14 11:53:22 zecke: see oe mailing list Dec 14 11:57:29 * koen heads of to a meeting Dec 14 12:13:01 mickeyl: saw his eabi post thanks Dec 14 12:14:00 hi Dec 14 12:14:05 mickeyl: pong Dec 14 12:14:32 hi Dec 14 12:21:36 do13: good news from trisoft. you will get something per Snail Mail asap :D Dec 14 12:21:57 do13: they just got it yesterday - but only in paper form Dec 14 12:22:56 mickeyl: If we are talking about the same, I got it yesterday from a friendly guy. But can't talk about his name:) Dec 14 12:23:20 * obergix[home] thinks there are misteries here Dec 14 12:23:22 do13: aah. excellent. if it's in electronic form, i wouldn't mind a copy *whistle* Dec 14 12:23:32 obergix[home]: the whole life is about misteries, isn't it? :)) Dec 14 12:23:49 mickeyl: unless when you have the source ;) Dec 14 12:23:54 heh, right Dec 14 12:24:12 * obergix[home] thinks of some Monthy Pythons movies... Dec 14 12:24:19 mickeyl: Email isn't allowed. But no word about hardcopies:) Dec 14 12:24:49 :) Dec 14 12:33:29 mickeyl: I'am still waiting for toshiba docs. He's working on this. Dec 14 12:33:51 ok, excellent. that leaves me with hopes Dec 14 12:34:53 I got a first document. But this isn't very detailed. Dec 14 12:36:29 mickeyl: any clue on the glibc issue bero is seeing? Dec 14 12:37:31 not offhand, but i'll take a look Dec 14 12:37:32 koen: missing file, unsatisfied depenency.. Dec 14 12:47:42 could anyone do me a small favor? I need the type and major/minor dev numbers for /dev/tun... Dec 14 12:48:02 crw------- 1 root root 10, 200 2005-01-28 15:14 /dev/net/tun Dec 14 12:48:20 thx Dec 14 12:54:06 * france is back (gone 19:43:12) Dec 14 13:14:21 <_law_|iBook> does anyone know http://www.xynth.org/ Dec 14 13:15:11 just read the announcements today Dec 14 13:15:27 woglinde pointed to that yesterday Dec 14 13:16:04 So, is it a X emulator? Dec 14 13:16:14 yet another 'embedded' 'fast' thing Dec 14 13:17:23 No - its its own engine Dec 14 13:17:24 yawh Dec 14 13:17:27 yawn even Dec 14 13:18:38 It doesn't do acceleration - so this is basically just a newer version of Picogui and Microwindows Dec 14 13:19:34 though they did port gtk, gotta give em credit for that. doesnt sound very interesting though Dec 14 13:19:50 heh - there's a nano-x port of gtk too - god help us all Dec 14 13:20:01 DirectFB! ;) Dec 14 13:20:10 CosmicPenguin: oh my Dec 14 13:20:49 real guis integrate into the kernel Dec 14 13:20:49 * koen|meeting runs Dec 14 13:21:12 At least directFB has built in acceleration Dec 14 13:34:34 Anybody suggest a good program for 'monotone: help required for 3-way merge / No external 3-way merge command found' ? Dec 14 13:35:01 meld Dec 14 13:35:55 hi im using a prebuilt toolchain for arm 3.4.3 and trying to build modutls-2.4-27.r7 and i get Error: cannot represent SWI relocation in this object file format Dec 14 13:36:31 pH5: thx... will try that Dec 14 13:36:33 my arm-linux-gcc path is ok since i just handbuilt busybox . dropbear etc Dec 14 13:37:58 handbuilt by saying "bitbake busybox" which uses the arm-linux-gcc found in path Dec 14 13:39:37 3.4.4 version doesnt throw the same error Dec 14 13:48:56 pH5: not really that obvious which version are where due to limitations until new version is out, if I understand, but that does the work Dec 14 13:50:07 avi_: did you google yet? Dec 14 13:53:14 zecke: i did Dec 14 13:53:20 the problem Dec 14 13:54:13 it seems is that the prebuilt toolchain libc doesnt have query_module() , while the newer 3.4.4 one does so im guessing that what causing the build to fail, i have no idea how to get around it Dec 14 13:54:51 although configure has --enable-use-syscalls for libc that does not have query_module, but this doesnt seem to fix it either Dec 14 14:19:50 zecke: ok i got a little further by hardcoding which unistd.h to use, now there are a bunch of parse errors ! Dec 14 14:20:14 sys_cm.c:38: error: parse error before "_create_module Dec 14 14:21:57 sys_cm.c:38::static inline _syscall2(long, _create_module, const char *, name, size_t, size) Dec 14 14:23:08 anybody using a GUI frontend to monotone ? Dec 14 14:25:50 There's an intellegent idea - make monotone slower by slapping a few buttons on it Dec 14 14:26:48 CosmicPenguin: sometimes graphics are more easyly understood than listings Dec 14 14:43:06 monotone-viz is actually cool Dec 14 14:52:25 with 2.6.14+2.6.15 kernel I see no cf card modules to assign, is there any problem with those modules? Dec 14 14:56:16 * obergix[home] is away: having rest while openzaurus compiles Dec 14 15:35:26 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r59056c0d... 10/packages/base-files/ (3 files in 3 dirs): base-files: spitz/borzoi fstab: allow automount of /home and /media/hdd Dec 14 15:35:30 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9d5b1bbc... 10/packages/gcc/gcc-cross-initial_4.0.2.bb: gcc-cross-initial: add 4.0.2 Dec 14 15:35:34 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9a1b15f6... 10/packages/glibc/ (glibc-cvs/dl-cache-libcmp.patch glibc_2.3.3+cvs20050221.bb): glibc: make glibc 2.3.3+cvs20050221 compile for arm Dec 14 15:35:39 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r59a79f16... 10/packages/ (9 files in 2 dirs): hostap, linuz-oz-2.6: Change hostap-utils/hostap-daemon to depend on virtual/kernel-hostap which can either be provided by external modules or the kernel itself depending on the machine configuration. Dec 14 15:43:36 * Philippe is away: visual contact - dreamland **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 20:46:39 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 20:47:00 2005 Dec 14 22:55:36 oh shit.. thought this was about Ole English 40 ouncers Dec 15 00:35:57 koen: besidey buying a dell once you have it... you should not stick an apple sticker on it... Dec 15 01:33:28 <[lala]> hi Dec 15 01:33:56 <[lala]> what's the best way to update the kernel on borzoi? Dec 15 01:34:04 <[lala]> is it possible to that via ipkg? Dec 15 01:34:16 <[lala]> or do i have to use the flash method Dec 15 01:35:16 <[lala]> (currently running opie-image with 2.6.15rc2) Dec 15 01:39:48 <_law_> [lala], ipkg update (updates kernel modules), after that flash your Z only with kernel image on your cf card (dont but initrd.bin on it) Dec 15 01:40:06 <_law_> i have done it in this way with my sl760 Dec 15 01:40:46 <_law_> if you but initrd.bin on it you?ll have a totaly new Z ;-) Dec 15 01:47:12 morning Dec 15 01:47:49 <_law_> hi XorA Dec 15 01:57:51 <[lala]> law: that's what i wanted to avoid ;-) Dec 15 02:13:31 hi Dec 15 02:13:37 RP: ping Dec 15 02:13:47 morning hrw|work Dec 15 02:13:49 hey hrw|work Dec 15 02:16:47 ~lart RP for breaking base-files Dec 15 02:16:47 * ibot squishes RP like a bug for breaking base-files Dec 15 02:19:02 or someone else who did it Dec 15 02:19:26 hrw|work: whats broken? Dec 15 02:21:03 NOTE: package base-files-3.0.14-r45: task do_package: started Dec 15 02:21:03 ERROR: function do_install failed Dec 15 02:21:48 r44 worked Dec 15 02:21:51 how do I dial this german number internationally? Dec 15 02:21:56 030/477 54740 Dec 15 02:22:04 0049 30 477 54740 Dec 15 02:22:25 +49 30 477 547 40 Dec 15 02:23:32 depends which you use for call. cellphone will be +49, otherphone 0049 Dec 15 02:24:43 thanks Dec 15 02:25:02 + == replace with international call code :P Dec 15 02:27:03 morning all Dec 15 02:29:05 in australia you have to dial 0011 to call internationally Dec 15 02:46:21 fg Dec 15 02:48:40 IOError: [Errno 28] No space left on device Dec 15 02:48:42 again ;( Dec 15 02:49:59 <_law_> hrw|work, with sd? Dec 15 02:51:02 _law_: no - hdd at home Dec 15 02:51:34 ~lart bitbake for confusing messages Dec 15 02:51:34 * ibot duct-tapes bitbake to the floor and drools on him for confusing messages Dec 15 02:52:16 hrw|work: have you disabled ccache? Dec 15 02:52:32 ccache was sucking in gigs of cache, so I disabled it Dec 15 02:55:29 koen: I have ccache on other partition **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 15 02:59:59 2005