**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 17 02:59:57 2005 Dec 17 03:26:10 moin Dec 17 03:27:10 moin zecke Dec 17 03:28:41 hi all Dec 17 03:30:10 hey Mardy Dec 17 03:51:38 <_guillermo> morning all Dec 17 03:53:05 hey _guillermo Dec 17 03:53:39 mickeyl: ping Dec 17 03:53:54 koen: how did your update to dapper work? Dec 17 03:54:53 after regenerating the initrd and grub, it went pretty ok Dec 17 03:55:06 x (and gnome) start up FAST now Dec 17 03:55:23 koen: wasn't X fast anyway? Dec 17 03:55:50 in usage yes, but starting X and a gnome/kde/whatever session wasn't Dec 17 03:56:25 from pressing enter after typing my passwd to a workable desktop in less than a second Dec 17 03:56:48 and my ati binary drivers seem to be working too Dec 17 03:56:49 koen: I have auto login anyway (just kidding) Dec 17 03:57:08 koen: I'm updating now, I hope things go well Dec 17 03:58:01 something did went wrong with gnome (as usual) Dec 17 03:58:16 no icons in the menu and the theme config won't start Dec 17 03:58:31 but all the mono stuff works :) Dec 17 03:58:49 koen: the only gnome app I use regulary is gnome-terminal Dec 17 03:58:59 koen: as long as xkb is not broken I can work Dec 17 03:58:59 that sucks Dec 17 03:59:07 it doesn't do keyrepeat Dec 17 03:59:21 koen: I use tab completion in vi anyway Dec 17 03:59:33 try scrolling in vi Dec 17 04:00:33 I hope I didn't remove my xglx build Dec 17 04:00:45 morning all Dec 17 04:00:50 hi Dec 17 04:01:05 hey pH5 Dec 17 04:01:13 hey zecke, koen Dec 17 04:02:01 every time I use linux on a desktop I get annoyed within 5 minutes Dec 17 04:02:05 OSX has spoiled me Dec 17 04:02:44 koen: the only thing that annoys me are the regressions Dec 17 04:02:56 heh Dec 17 04:02:58 koen: cups is broken for me and kmail's gnupg integration Dec 17 04:03:07 I use GNOME, that's one pile of regressions :) Dec 17 04:03:13 * koen wants gnome 1.4 back Dec 17 04:03:54 I could settle for 2.4 Dec 17 04:04:06 anyone played with the python loggin framework yet? Dec 17 04:04:36 koen: I hate the error reporting capabilities of kmail "Could not initialize backend"... Dec 17 04:04:41 do I have to indent my passwords to use it? Dec 17 04:05:11 koen: I tried hard to no not write login ;) Dec 17 04:05:31 koen: I want to slightly improve bitbakes error reporting capabilities Dec 17 04:05:47 koen: the log levels do not cut it Dec 17 04:05:51 I'd like to use python, but I can't stand the indenting it forces on me Dec 17 04:06:24 koen: fork it and introduce {,} Dec 17 04:08:03 there is no spoon Dec 17 04:09:16 zecke: you could make bitbake accumulate all errors and print them like ipkg does Dec 17 04:09:41 I bet python would even indent them nicely Dec 17 04:11:44 pH5: I think the cleanest way to solve the eabi issue is to make our our linux-libc-eabi-headers package Dec 17 04:12:25 koen: that's a great idea. just remember me next time not to clean out my old abi toolchain for this. Dec 17 04:12:32 heh Dec 17 04:12:49 don't clean out your old abi toolchain Dec 17 04:12:59 koen: thanks Dec 17 04:13:15 I have this: TMPDIR=/home/koen/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO} Dec 17 04:13:42 that way I only have to change DISTRO, instead of BBPATH,BBFILES, etc Dec 17 04:17:42 my task-bootstrap fails at openswan: http://pastebin.ca/33958 Dec 17 04:17:49 any idea what i'm missing here? Dec 17 04:18:57 at a guess, you have LDFLAGS trouble. Dec 17 04:19:35 I don't know why that would have just started happening, though, if you haven't changed the openswan .bb file. Dec 17 04:20:57 monotone diff openswan Dec 17 04:20:59 # no changes Dec 17 04:28:24 heh Dec 17 04:28:39 well, in that case I guess you need to figure out why openswan's internal libraries are missing from the final link Dec 17 04:31:31 ~lart freenode Dec 17 04:31:47 koen: you will get kicked and banned for that ;) Dec 17 04:34:41 * ibot hereby declares freenode a troll Dec 17 04:39:30 zecke: is there a difference between being kicked and some bozo rebooting servers at random? Dec 17 04:40:00 but at least we've found something with worse QA as OE Dec 17 04:43:06 * zecke tries to raise some money for QA on OE... Dec 17 04:43:07 koen: :) Dec 17 04:47:00 hehe **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 17 04:47:49 2005 Dec 17 04:50:29 'how to kill peoples backlog' by Rob Levin Dec 17 04:51:07 koen: OT: did anyone read the Xbox cracking/hacking paper as well? Dec 17 04:52:08 the 17 mistakes one? Dec 17 04:52:23 I've read that a while ago Dec 17 04:52:44 we can now safely mention LGPL again Dec 17 04:53:26 koen: I find the A20 hack genuis... Dec 17 04:53:45 bbl Dec 17 04:58:52 pb_: there is an empty rule in programs/Makefile.program for "%: %.c" to force make to use the "%: %.o" rule instead Dec 17 04:58:56 pb_: but for some reason my make decides to use the builtin "%: %.c" rule nonetheless. Dec 17 04:59:42 pb_: and I can't use make -r because the Makefiles rely on the builtin "%.o: %.c" rule Dec 17 06:55:10 anyone here know python? i'm guessing so :) i have zero experience with it. therefore, the following error while building dbus in bitbake has me stumped: http://pastebin.com/467763 . Dec 17 06:55:27 can someone give me a pointer? looks like it's a problem with my setup rather than the dbus code itself... Dec 17 06:57:26 hi Dec 17 06:57:50 Bernardo, hi Dec 17 06:57:51 Minase: apt-get install python-pyrex Dec 17 06:57:56 Minase: or equivalent Dec 17 06:58:27 minase@kimiko:~]$ which pyrexc Dec 17 06:58:27 /usr/bin/pyrexc Dec 17 06:58:30 not sufficient? Dec 17 06:59:26 eh python[version]-pyrex. you need /usr/lib/pythin[version]/site-packages/Pyrex Dec 17 07:00:26 ah how i miss apt sometimes. Dec 17 07:00:42 i have no idea where that pyrexc binary came from though - slackware has no pyrex package :\ Dec 17 07:03:42 hi koen, finished christmas shopping? Dec 17 07:04:06 yeah Dec 17 07:04:18 a few kilos of candy :) Dec 17 07:04:28 pH5: thanks, it appears to be building now :) Dec 17 07:04:44 hey koen Dec 17 07:04:50 hey pH5 Dec 17 08:01:30 if you have two foo_.bb files, how do you control which one bitbake looks at by default? Dec 17 08:03:17 Minase: PREFERRED_VERSION_foo = "" in your conf. otherwise bitbake uses the one with the biggest version numbers. Dec 17 08:04:47 ah, i just realised - it's probably not picked up the new file (with a higher version number) because i didn't tell it to reparse everything. Dec 17 08:05:30 Minase: I think you can also use filereparse if you don't want to reparse the whole tree. Dec 17 08:06:01 thanks. needs a full path i guess? i tried just the filename itself and bitbake crashed :) Dec 17 08:06:22 most probably :-) now you have to reparse everything Dec 17 08:06:26 yay \o/ Dec 17 09:27:17 what is the recommended way to get around the savanah pserver problem with quilt? I do have the quilt_savannah.nongnu.org_VER_0_42.tar.gz tarball in my download dir Dec 17 09:27:58 remove the affected packages in DL_DIR/cvs/ Dec 17 09:34:13 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra5e50ffc... 10/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): orinoco modules + gnu-config: fix SRC_URI for savannah stuff Dec 17 09:36:54 koen: thanks Dec 17 09:37:56 * Bernardo just had to blast his tmp dir because of a strange libgpg-postinst error Dec 17 10:40:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4f6c7596... 10/packages/xchat/xchat_2.6.0.bb: xchat: add 2.6.0 Dec 17 10:44:49 hi Dec 17 10:45:10 hey kergoth Dec 17 10:45:14 hey oxi Dec 17 10:45:47 hey Dec 17 10:46:06 hey kergoth Dec 17 10:48:26 kergoth: ever thought about a job as corrector or editor? Dec 17 10:49:21 or something else that involves cluebatting people for money? Dec 17 11:52:13 arm-linux-ld: no machine record defined <---- what does this mean? Dec 17 12:02:35 k found out myself Dec 17 12:17:42 * Philippe is away: trying to develop social skills Dec 17 13:03:51 when BB says, "NOTE: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package:"... how does one get it to put them in the package? Dec 17 13:04:12 Minase: add them to the FILES variable Dec 17 13:04:25 or FILES_packagename Dec 17 13:04:47 best to look at other recipes how it's done Dec 17 13:04:48 ah. what is that by default? Dec 17 13:05:02 okay. i've been looking at some. Dec 17 13:05:30 there is some logic in, i think base.bbclass, that puts files into lib/dev/binary packages by file type. Dec 17 13:06:09 ah. i'd just assumed that it basically calls make install, and then scoops up whatever files had resulted and sticks them in a package :) Dec 17 13:07:26 sort of Dec 17 13:07:41 it scoops ut files in predefined directories Dec 17 13:07:52 eg /etc, /usr/share, etc Dec 17 13:07:59 depending on the class you inherit Dec 17 13:11:18 i'm guessing it looks in /usr/share/ by default? that's probably the problem, i just realised this package is called somerhing different to it's /usr/share directory Dec 17 13:14:21 FILES_${PN} += "${datadir}" should scoop up everything in /usr/share Dec 17 13:15:17 thanks. i've just added something similar. what is ${D} BTW? Dec 17 13:15:44 destdir Dec 17 13:16:07 the place where it should end up for OE to pick it up Dec 17 13:16:29 ah Dec 17 17:20:27 * Philippe is back (gone 05:02:43) Dec 17 18:16:54 * Philippe is away: visual contact - comfy bed Dec 17 19:58:03 can the kernel framebuffer allocate split ranges of physical mem? Dec 17 19:58:31 to virtually use it as it was continuous, of course Dec 18 01:10:42 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Dec 18 02:59:56 2005