**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 20 03:02:32 2005 Dec 20 03:04:35 hey ade|desk & zecke Dec 20 03:05:41 hey Dec 20 03:06:03 ph5's OpenSwan issue is due the new GNU make beta3 Dec 20 03:06:11 (as I have not seen his patch being pushed) Dec 20 03:10:42 stupid gnu Dec 20 03:20:01 koen: at least debian updates the most important packages in time ;) Dec 20 03:20:34 ~lart Trolltech for the Helpfile Preprocessor... Dec 20 03:20:34 * ibot gives Trolltech an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending Trolltech to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple for the Helpfile Preprocessor... Dec 20 03:21:52 nevermind Dec 20 03:22:13 ~lart tt for makeqpf Dec 20 03:22:14 * ibot farts in tt's general direction for makeqpf Dec 20 03:23:31 hrw|work: I somehow sense thats not your most favourite software Dec 20 03:23:59 lol Dec 20 03:24:12 XorA: its shitty tool to generate fonts in shitty format Dec 20 03:24:38 XorA: ofcourse its the only tool which can do it and it needs framebuffer access Dec 20 03:24:57 and it does not give any info why some fontsize/rotations are not generated Dec 20 03:25:00 hrw|work: did you not make ttf work in opie? Dec 20 03:25:09 koen: can i go ahead with #534 ? Dec 20 03:25:26 XorA: I did - but maybe some users want qpf ones for sharp-compat-libs stuff Dec 20 03:25:26 please do Dec 20 03:25:58 hrw|work: make them like the debian contrib packages that download stuff then compile it locally :-) Dec 20 03:26:52 XorA: I automated generating qpf fonts so dejavu update takes 5-20 minutes Dec 20 03:27:39 ~lart samba Dec 20 03:27:39 * ibot gives samba a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" Dec 20 03:27:47 ~lart gtk for incompatible API's Dec 20 03:27:48 * ibot whips out a shotgun, trudges over to gtk, and goes postal for incompatible API's Dec 20 03:31:40 ~lart larters Dec 20 03:31:41 * ibot executes killall -TERM larters Dec 20 03:31:54 ~rlatt Dec 20 03:31:56 ~rlart Dec 20 03:31:57 oh no! a meta-lart Dec 20 03:31:58 * ibot decapitates dhr conan the destroyer style Dec 20 03:34:15 why that .... samba decide that after few second after I open file it was changed... Dec 20 03:34:26 notifies in gvim make it hard to sue Dec 20 03:34:27 use Dec 20 03:34:38 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rd96ef395... 10/packages/gpe-screenshot/gpe-screenshot_0.4.bb: gpe-screenshot: add 0.4 Dec 20 03:34:41 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rbc0c675d... 10/packages/scap/scap_0.1.bb: scap: don't install .desktop Dec 20 03:37:30 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * raaae42e7... 10/packages/meta/meta-gpe.bb: meta-gpe: ship gpe-screenshot by default Dec 20 03:37:58 monotone on old computers is fun :) Dec 20 03:38:29 ade|desk: I use it on a pretty new nslu2 ;) Dec 20 03:39:29 koen: why not on corgi? Dec 20 03:39:54 corgi doesn't have 100Mbit networking :) Dec 20 03:40:00 and 120GB disk Dec 20 03:41:55 well i've moved from a p2/400 to a p3/500 :) Dec 20 03:42:49 is CIA tracking dev today ? Dec 20 04:05:08 03ade 07org.oe.dev * r1bc88b3c... 10/packages/x11/ (files/xim.patch diet-x11_6.2.1.bb x11_6.2.1.bb): Diet-x11 6.2.1: add more xim stubs Dec 20 04:36:16 03ade 07org.oe.dev * re8e7132a... 10/packages/rdesktop/rdesktop_1.4.1.bb: rdesktop 1.4.1: add rdesktop 1.4.1 Dec 20 04:36:31 yay! Dec 20 04:36:35 rdesktop Dec 20 04:46:57 is the usb in akita/spitz still broken with 2.6 kerneL? Dec 20 04:47:29 katossi_uni: it is not broken Dec 20 04:47:35 katossi_uni: usb client is missing Dec 20 04:47:55 missing != broken (for me) Dec 20 04:48:10 you're right Dec 20 04:48:47 but, if I connect a gps device (usb), would it work? I don't know if in those cases we need host usb or client usb Dec 20 04:49:12 host Dec 20 04:49:27 and you'll probably need the pl2303 kernel module Dec 20 04:50:14 katossi_uni: if you connect something to Z-usb then you use host. if you connect Z-usb to other computer then you use client Dec 20 04:50:51 aha, thanks Dec 20 04:51:17 thats weird: ok i fucked up, i thought i had added the strip.patch file for rdesktop .. but it hasn't Dec 20 04:51:37 any experience here with gps? I know it'd be powered by the pda, and I don't know how power-hungry they are Dec 20 04:52:11 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1d8a85d2... 10/packages/bluez/ (6 files in 2 dirs): bluez-utils: added "Socket Rev. G" card to pcmcia/bluetooth.conf - close #539 Dec 20 04:54:55 #539 is nice bugraport Dec 20 05:00:33 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5c447cd9... 10/packages/netkit-base/netkit-base_0.17.bb: netkit-base: switched to update-rc.d bbclass - close #544 Dec 20 05:03:04 ade|desk: could you add strip.patch? Dec 20 05:03:24 am trying to commit atm, its a bit slow ;) Dec 20 05:04:30 still pulling hrw's bits Dec 20 05:05:16 koen: looks like i had forgotten to add the directory Dec 20 05:11:06 last two tweaks goes to branch too Dec 20 05:12:13 mt pull --set-default is for database or for working-copy? Dec 20 05:15:23 ade|desk: tell when you end pulling - I have something to push Dec 20 05:15:42 am merging atm, sorry for the delay Dec 20 05:15:48 np Dec 20 05:16:00 god i need a faster system Dec 20 05:17:09 I need quieter one (it there such word as 'quieter' at all?) Dec 20 05:17:57 less noisification Dec 20 05:20:01 hrw|work: ok pushed Dec 20 05:20:18 ok Dec 20 05:21:00 ade|desk: to vanille or ewi? Dec 20 05:21:21 ewi Dec 20 05:23:05 hrw|work: would you think about adding bluez 2.23? or does that create problems? Dec 20 05:23:22 ArjanS: I'm not bluez expert at all Dec 20 05:24:10 ArjanS: does not it need newer dbus that the one which gpe use? Dec 20 05:25:06 hrw|work: oh sorry, I thought you were the maintainer. about dbus: I have no idea Dec 20 05:25:59 03ade 07org.oe.dev * r70d8a72e... 10/packages/rdesktop/rdesktop-1.4.1/strip.patch: rdesktop 1.4.1: add strip fix for cross compiler Dec 20 05:27:42 ArjanS: such tweaks like that last one can be added by anyone as they dont change nothing special **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 20 06:34:06 2005 Dec 20 06:35:21 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r86961384... 10/packages/opie-bluepin/ (opie-bluepin.inc opie-bluepin_1.2.1.bb): Dec 20 06:35:21 opie-bluepin: change APPTYPE to binary to get package correct Dec 20 06:35:21 - partialy close #528 Dec 20 06:38:08 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rcb7f9eda... 10/packages/opie-bluepin/ (opie-bluepin.inc opie-bluepin_1.2.1.bb): Dec 20 06:38:09 opie-bluepin: change APPTYPE to binary to get package correct Dec 20 06:38:09 - partialy close #528 Dec 20 06:38:09 taken from .dev Dec 20 06:41:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r99ec1d02... 10/packages/gnome/libwnck_2.10.2.bb: libwnck: add 2.10.2 Dec 20 06:44:41 _law_: I dont think that rc6 will help for your card. but reporting problem to lakml or Pierre Ossman or RMK will help Dec 20 06:45:34 _law_: otherwise that problem will stay forever in our buglist Dec 20 06:45:58 <_law_> hrw|work, is your problem fixed? Dec 20 06:46:40 _law_: not tested Dec 20 06:46:58 but dont think so Dec 20 06:49:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re302bc56... 10/packages/gnome/libgnome_2.12.0.1.bb: libgnome 2.12.0.1: fix staging Dec 20 06:49:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc80f887b... 10/packages/gnome/libgnomeui_2.12.0.bb: libgnomeui 2.12.0: fix staging Dec 20 06:49:52 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.14+2.6.15-rc6-r3: task do_patch: completed Dec 20 06:52:47 <_law_> hrw|work, send a mail to Pierre Ossman Dec 20 07:00:44 you mean 'sent'? Dec 20 07:04:21 <_law_> hrw|work, yes Dec 20 07:05:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r15a20b8c... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-desktop_2.10.2.bb: gnome-desktop 2.10.2: fix staging Dec 20 07:08:08 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rebddfffc... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-panel_2.10.1.bb: gnome-panel: add 2.10.1 Dec 20 07:10:38 <_law_> koen, are you installing gnome on your device? ;-) Dec 20 07:10:52 just tsclient + deps Dec 20 07:11:10 <_law_> i should rebuild gnome-bluetooth after my hd crasch Dec 20 07:11:14 <_law_> crash Dec 20 07:11:53 <_law_> http://d.hatena.ne.jp/nyanonon/20050822#p1 :-) Dec 20 07:12:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb13b7afc... 10/packages/tsclient/tsclient_0.140.bb: tsclient: add 0.140 Dec 20 07:19:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r457cc426... 10/packages/tsclient/tsclient_0.140.bb: tsclient: rdepend on rdesktop Dec 20 07:46:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re0ff1081... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/ (3 files in 2 dirs): matchbox-panel 0.9.2: add 2 patches to fix wireless applet and cpu/mem applet, courtesy Patrick Steiner Dec 20 07:47:24 <_law_> koen, thanks Dec 20 08:06:34 CosmicPenguin: Did you get any feedback about me borrowing an Alchemy board ? Dec 20 08:07:40 hey, I didn't Dec 20 08:07:43 * CosmicPenguin grumbles about his boss Dec 20 08:07:58 Thanks for reminding me Dec 20 08:08:11 CosmicPenguin, np. I'm taking my pb1500 home over the holidays. I'll start on it. Dec 20 08:08:34 lrg: yeah, I probably wouldn't have anything for you until after the holidays anyway Dec 20 08:08:53 CosmicPenguin, ok, Thanks Dec 20 08:11:07 RP: my dtl1_cs patch (adding one ID) was sent to linux-pcmcia by you? Dec 20 08:13:22 hrw|work: Not yet. It won't go in during a -rc period so I'm waiting Dec 20 08:13:41 ok Dec 20 08:15:42 hrw|work: I'll push all our new device ids in one go Dec 20 08:16:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rac51bb62... 10/packages/libgsf/libgsf_1.13.3.bb: libgsf: add 0.13.3 Dec 20 08:16:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2c106253... 10/packages/gnome/goffice_0.1.2.bb: goffice: add 0.1.2 Dec 20 08:19:29 RP: hi rp Dec 20 08:19:33 RP: does bug #421 exist at all in current kernels? Dec 20 08:19:50 RP: after flashing/installing a borzoi i have a "hdd2 error" and a flashing hdd led... Dec 20 08:20:06 RP: any ieda? Dec 20 08:20:52 hrw|work: It does exist and I think I know why. Dec 20 08:21:06 greentux_alt2: I've never seen that before - how did you make that happen? Dec 20 08:21:18 which part of the system is displaying the error? Dec 20 08:21:19 RP: ok. I'm browsing though 'my' bugs Dec 20 08:22:08 RP: :) used updater.sh + gnu-tra + hdimag1.tgz Dec 20 08:22:30 RP: after installing the device want reboot... and doesnt comes up Dec 20 08:23:11 greentux_alt2: So updater.sh disaplyed the error or did the error appear after a reboot? Dec 20 08:24:16 RP: after reboot... Dec 20 08:25:26 greentux_alt2: You did use the right names for the files when flashing - the ones you've listed above are wrong Dec 20 08:26:44 RP: lala thinks that the zimage is missing... gggr. will check Dec 20 08:27:21 RP: ok. its the problem :) sorry RP Dec 20 08:28:09 greentux_alt2: Yes, that would do it :) Dec 20 08:34:35 ok.. away Dec 20 08:39:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r34d7e2a1... 10/packages/gnumeric/gnumeric_1.6.1.bb: gnumeric: add 1.6.1 Dec 20 08:46:29 ooh - lasterror rules Dec 20 08:46:46 wow... monotone is insanely slow Dec 20 08:50:22 a question: how should I request generation of gpe-contacts_cvs ? Dec 20 08:50:44 obergix[home]: more details? Dec 20 08:50:56 is something like PREFERRED_VERSION_gpe-contacts = "0.42+cvs20051217" valid ? Dec 20 08:51:14 probably Dec 20 08:51:56 then which package would it generate : gpe-contacts_0.42-r0_armv5te.ipk ? Dec 20 08:52:05 or something with cvs in the package's name ? Dec 20 08:52:14 with cvs Dec 20 08:52:49 hmmm... so there is something weird with my environment... Dec 20 08:52:57 ~lart apmd Dec 20 08:52:57 * ibot beats apmd over the head with a microkernel Dec 20 08:53:23 what provide run-parts and is not busybox? Dec 20 08:57:11 init? Dec 20 08:57:35 <_law_> OT: how can i download o complet dir from an ftp? Dec 20 08:57:36 e2fsck is in busybox trunk ;)) Dec 20 08:57:38 <_law_> rsync Dec 20 08:57:40 <_law_> ? Dec 20 08:57:48 _law_: wget -r ? Dec 20 08:59:30 fuser, less, e2fs tools... I like busybox Dec 20 08:59:51 obergix[home]: looks like bitbake -i + filerebuild worked... now have a gpe-contacts*cvs*.ipk Dec 20 09:00:00 hrw|work: there's even a patch to integrate ipkg into busybox Dec 20 09:00:25 hrw|work: that save an extra copy of libbb Dec 20 09:00:39 'mdev is a mini-udev implementation' Dec 20 09:01:32 _law_: wget -r -np ftp://serwer/dir/ Dec 20 09:14:36 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0b9d1fff... 10/packages/debianutils/ (debianutils_2.14.3.bb debianutils_2.15.2.bb): debianutils: updated 2.14.3 to 2.15.2 (current 'sid' one) Dec 20 09:14:40 03xora 07org.oe.dev * ra762683e... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): dillo-0.8.5: add dillo 0.8.5 version, this is a gtk 1.2 program but its a lot more modern than the gtk2 0.6.6 version that is available. Dec 20 09:14:44 * hrw|work vote for removing "-b" from bitbake help and renaming it to other name Dec 20 09:15:39 bitbake --ignore-all-deps file.bb Dec 20 09:16:26 or even: bitbake --I-know-that-this-will-skip-all-dependencies-but-I-need-to-use-that-switch file.bb Dec 20 09:16:42 heh Dec 20 09:17:26 another 'user' complain that bitbake does not work for him Dec 20 09:18:34 hrw|work: bitbake --lartme Dec 20 09:18:45 bitbake didn't work for me either. Dec 20 09:19:02 I even tried putting my zaurus in the oven, set to 350 degrees, for 15 minutes :( Dec 20 09:19:03 hrw|work: The thing is that option is extremely useful if you understand what it does... Dec 20 09:19:38 should I bake my bits at a different temperature? or maybe a deep fryer? Dec 20 09:20:10 RP: I know - I use it very often Dec 20 09:20:13 * raduga damns all developers Dec 20 09:20:39 RP: probably more often then without any params Dec 20 09:22:40 raduga: This would be a bad place to do that, esp. if you're a zaurus owner ;-) Dec 20 09:23:06 rp: i see. Dec 20 09:23:23 --lartme doesn't work either, though. I guess my attitude needs no re-adjustment. Dec 20 09:26:43 bbrebuild rox Dec 20 09:28:28 touchscreen takes too much time to resume... Dec 20 09:29:13 cu Dec 20 09:48:22 anyone know why im getting this when trying to use va_start?:ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code Dec 20 10:34:23 * Philippe is back (gone 64:16:58) Dec 20 10:40:06 Philippe, I'll send you my abstract tomorrow. Appologies, i've had a busy week. Dec 20 10:46:05 RP: there is an email on lakml that might interest you wrt support Dec 20 10:46:35 lrg, no problem. You're welcome Dec 20 10:49:51 hey, can abybody tell me from wot ip i was appernetly just logge din from? Dec 20 10:50:03 cos i just got logged in as dan2003_ and i could see a dan2003 already here Dec 20 10:51:10 *** dan2003 is n=dan2003@cpc3-ware3-3-0-cust39.lutn.cable.ntl.com (dan) Dec 20 10:51:16 *** dan2003 was n=dan2003@cpc3-ware3-3-0-cust39.lutn.cable.ntl.com (dan) on chan Dec 20 10:51:19 you could /who yourself ... Dec 20 10:51:24 *** dan2003_ was n=dan2003@cpc3-ware3-3-0-cust39.lutn.cable.ntl.com (dan) on cha Dec 20 10:51:35 cheers, thats very odd tho! Dec 20 10:51:45 emte: i think he wanted to know what IP he had before he got booted, and came back Dec 20 10:51:53 dan: no chance that I can see Dec 20 10:52:07 then its /whowas Dec 20 10:52:08 er. Dec 20 10:52:11 no change. Dec 20 10:52:23 emte: yes. which he could do just as well as we could. Dec 20 10:52:28 emte: sorry for spamming Dec 20 10:52:29 i left, as i saw i was in as dan2003_, but as i was leaving i noticed dan2003 already there, whihc im confuesd about as i only just opened my irc client! Dec 20 10:52:32 lol Dec 20 10:52:50 nevermind! Dec 20 10:53:31 anybody mentioned any simpad andvances latley? Dec 20 12:32:34 re Dec 20 12:32:46 pH5: your openswan breakage is due your new make ;) Dec 20 12:33:21 hi zecke. did you reproduce it? Dec 20 12:33:52 pH5: yes and read the changelog of my debian installation Dec 20 12:34:01 ahh :) Dec 20 12:34:20 I think it was the NEWS file Dec 20 12:34:44 pH5: so please push the change, it should not impact other users Dec 20 12:35:24 this news file is full of incompatibility warnings. i'll push it, then. Dec 20 12:37:50 hehe Dec 20 13:04:29 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r5d168bb5... 10/packages/openswan/ (2 files in 2 dirs): openswan-2.2.0: fix makefile for make 3.81beta Dec 20 13:05:04 openswan 2.2.0 seems to be kind of old... Dec 20 13:14:28 hy all Dec 20 13:14:52 anyone using the marmalade arm 720 touchscreen kits? Dec 20 13:17:26 unlikely Dec 20 13:20:07 nite guys Dec 20 13:21:20 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r8588d9ef... 10/packages/python/ (9 files in 3 dirs): python: remove 2.4.1, add 2.4.2 (from .dev, but without tcl/tk) Dec 20 13:21:24 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * ree83672e... 10/packages/dreambox/dreambox-dccamd.bb: dreambox-dcccamd: add dm7025 support Dec 20 13:21:28 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb87c22c4... 10/conf/distro/opendreambox-1.2.conf: opendreambox-1.2: use python 2.4.2 Dec 20 13:21:32 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb0c10f88... 10/packages/enigma2/enigma2/enigma2.sh: enigma2: start in ~ Dec 20 13:36:28 yea kergoth im here :) Dec 20 14:40:37 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re8079d7d... 10/packages/enigma2/enigma2/enigma2.sh: enigma2: fix root home in start directory Dec 20 15:51:14 * Philippe is away: visual contact - comfy bed Dec 20 15:54:06 hello! Dec 20 15:54:43 getting an error from monotone - anyone able to help me out? Dec 20 15:55:01 bash-3.1$ monotone --db=stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev Dec 20 15:55:01 monotone: fatal: std::runtime_error: failure extracting schema from sqlite_master Dec 20 15:58:56 Spyro: Which version of monotone? Dec 20 15:59:10 You need 0.24 Dec 20 15:59:23 hello btw - nice to see you online! Dec 20 15:59:52 I have .24 Dec 20 16:00:07 just saw the note about -fno-omit-frame-pointer and -fno-strict-aliasing Dec 20 16:00:14 wondering if it might be a problem... Dec 20 16:01:52 btw- nice to see you too :) Dec 20 16:01:58 its been a while :) Dec 20 16:02:03 lifes been hectic Dec 20 16:03:00 Spyro: Things are settling down a bit or no chance of that? :) Dec 20 16:06:13 heh. long LONG story... Dec 20 16:06:55 my primary relationship has taken a nosedive, fortunately, not a screaming set-the-lawyers-on-you kind Dec 20 16:07:31 I'll be moving house soon, to a nearby place so I can still be involved with the kids. I'll probably have custody of one of them. Dec 20 16:07:46 Ah, sorry to hear that :-( Dec 20 16:08:12 shit happens Dec 20 16:08:45 I've been fighting with bleeding edge stuff to get my Athlon64X2 stable (finally managed it with a 2.6.15-rc6 kernel Dec 20 16:09:10 its REALLY fast Dec 20 16:10:06 Sounds like a nice system. Lets hope the 64 bit issues in OE doesn't getyou :-/ Dec 20 16:11:42 its the 2GHz one with 512k cache per CPU. I have 2GB PC3200 in there too. Dec 20 16:15:33 03arjan 07org.oe.dev * re08d7922... 10/packages/xcursor-transparent-theme/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xcursor-transparent-theme: add patch to install the busy cursor as 'watch' instead of 'watcha' Dec 20 18:31:10 * kergoth chuckles at the opie-devel threads he finally got around to reading Dec 20 18:32:30 I remember back before ljp got hired at trolltech, when his attitudes weren't all an exact mirror of those of trolltech. Funny how much money and corporate brainwashing affects things. Dec 20 21:53:03 is anyone else having probs building openswan?? i keep failing on it while building opie-image?? Dec 20 22:21:37 http://www.frappr.com/zaurus <= feel free to add yourself Dec 21 00:43:12 <_law_> morning Dec 21 01:55:26 morning Dec 21 01:57:14 morning all Dec 21 02:43:56 morning Dec 21 02:44:51 moring hrw Dec 21 02:44:53 morning all Dec 21 02:45:06 hi lrg Dec 21 02:45:25 morning lrg|home, hrw|work Dec 21 02:46:14 * lrg|home has a customer using 2.4.2 in a new project Dec 21 02:46:59 lrg|home: You need a cluebat :) Dec 21 02:48:08 RP: They need a cluebat :) Dec 21 02:48:21 I only sell them a chip Dec 21 02:48:33 lrg|home: suggest 2.2.10 for them Dec 21 02:48:42 lrg|home: I presume you've mentioned they're mad? Dec 21 02:48:44 heh Dec 21 02:49:02 RP: I'm about to. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 21 02:59:56 2005