**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 21 02:59:56 2005 Dec 21 03:06:26 ~lart zone alarm Dec 21 03:06:27 * ibot keeps mailing zone alarm free America Online CDs until he drowns Dec 21 03:39:54 is familiar-0.8.3 development being moved to the oe.oz.. branch? I was trying to build gpe-image with the oe.dev branch and got a message about it Dec 21 03:40:21 fyli1: yes Dec 21 03:42:35 if I want to build 0.8.3 for h3900, do I need to using the meta data in oz or do I just need the familiar-0.8.3.conf file from there? Dec 21 03:43:06 I mean build gpe-image Dec 21 03:43:13 fyli1: you want all the meta data from oz354fam83 branch, there are changes there that are different from ones in .dev Dec 21 03:43:25 .dev is purely for unstable developemnt Dec 21 03:44:18 fyli1: new stuff goes to .dev - .oz354fam083 gets only needed updates Dec 21 03:45:16 btw.. I have to update dropbear in oz 3.5.3 which had 0.45-r1 - which one will be better: 0.45-r2 or 0.47-r0? Dec 21 03:45:39 ok, I tried both branches and got stuck both times. now I know which one to use Dec 21 03:47:06 monotone on vanille will be down due to NFS breakage Dec 21 03:47:54 and good morning all Dec 21 03:48:17 ok Dec 21 03:48:35 he koen Dec 21 03:48:39 fyli1: if you want to build what will become fam-8.3 use the oz354fam83 branch Dec 21 03:49:06 ~hail ssh-copyid Dec 21 03:49:07 * ibot bows down to ssh-copyid and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Dec 21 03:49:14 hi koen Dec 21 03:50:05 good morning koen, monotone complains org.openembedded.oz354fam083 has multiple heads... it seems it needs to get merged Dec 21 03:50:29 shit. Dec 21 03:52:31 oh, and can someone with write access to .oz354fam083 get rev e08d7922d94471121612d28cd1f9522991c33d7a from .dev too? thanks Dec 21 03:52:34 ArjanS: viewmtn show one head Dec 21 03:52:57 ArjanS: bug#350 is for that kind of wishes :) Dec 21 03:53:29 oh that's why the build is getting stuck, I downloaded the old oz354fam083 branch from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ Dec 21 03:53:43 actually that rev is one of the heads :) Dec 21 03:54:09 I guess I should just set up monotone first Dec 21 04:04:20 ah, a new monotone co fixed the problem :) Dec 21 04:04:24 ~lart ipkg for -force-downgrade which does not work Dec 21 04:04:25 * ibot beats ipkg severely about the head and shoulders with a rubber chicken for -force-downgrade which does not work Dec 21 04:04:31 koen: what did I do wrong? Dec 21 04:04:52 ArjanS: nothing, I just merged the heads :) Dec 21 04:05:09 okay, that's a relief :) Dec 21 04:06:32 RP: when will 'reboot' command really reboot c7x0? Dec 21 04:07:49 koen: does familiar 0.8.2 has any 'upgrades' feed? Dec 21 04:08:10 it does, but I never got around to really using it Dec 21 04:08:48 so I can close dropbear bug after it is available for oz 3.5.3 as it wont be available for fam082? Dec 21 04:09:15 familiar has it's own bugtracker :) Dec 21 04:09:39 I know Dec 21 04:10:27 and no info about dropbear securityfix at all Dec 21 04:13:49 koen: did you read mallum's response? http://bugzilla.openedhand.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56 Dec 21 04:14:28 I have now :) Dec 21 04:15:37 ah okay, any idea? under which gpe bugzilla category should I file it? Dec 21 04:15:59 mickey|reading: pong Dec 21 04:16:02 hrw|work: When someone works out what the problem is and fixes it. Do you mean rebooting hanging or reboot ot restarting without a power key press? Dec 21 04:16:15 s/ot/not/ Dec 21 04:17:51 RP: reboot == restart without power key press Dec 21 04:18:16 RP: poweroff == restart with power key press (for me) Dec 21 04:18:30 now reboot == poweroff on c7x0 Dec 21 04:19:24 Its due to the kernel using the watchdog timer to do the reboot Dec 21 04:19:42 I like the poweroff as it lets you reflash Dec 21 04:20:04 RP: when I want to reflash I can use 'poweroff' command Dec 21 04:20:57 What does the poweroff command currently do on the c7x0? Dec 21 04:21:01 vanille is up again Dec 21 04:22:10 RP: goes to 'Power down.' and halts instead of cutting power (like reboot does) Dec 21 04:23:17 I suspect its the sharp bootloader being broken... Dec 21 04:23:39 It can probably be worked around but maybe not in a mainline acceptable manner. Dec 21 04:23:52 RP: ;( Dec 21 04:24:20 I know I once compared the sharp reboot code with 2.6's and its different Dec 21 04:27:31 too much to get accepted by mainline? Dec 21 04:29:10 hrw|work: There are ways and means. Its just not something that's really bothered me Dec 21 04:30:17 ok Dec 21 04:33:11 hrw|work: 0.47 is in http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.2/feed/updates/ now Dec 21 04:35:23 koen: thx for info Dec 21 04:36:06 closed bug Dec 21 04:42:28 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r2b5bed6f... 10/packages/python/python-2.4.2-manifest.inc: python-2.4.2: from .dev: add python-2.4.2-manifest.inc Dec 21 04:42:32 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r3cb4772b... 10/packages/xcursor-transparent-theme/ (2 files in 2 dirs): xcursor-transparent-theme: fix busy cursor, backported from .dev Dec 21 04:42:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3987696e... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/ (matchbox-panel-0.9.2/kernel2.6.patch matchbox-panel_0.9.2.bb): matchbox-panel 0.9.2: update system monitor patch Dec 21 04:42:42 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r645a134e... 10/conf/distro/ (familiar-0.8.3.conf familiar-unstable.conf): familiar: remove '0.8.3' and replace it with 'unstable' Dec 21 04:54:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rffb9eb1a... 10/packages/xcursor-transparent-theme/xcursor-transparent-theme_0.1.1.bb: xcursor-transparent-theme: bump PR Dec 21 04:54:59 ~kill phpbb lovers Dec 21 04:55:02 * ibot shoots a neutron gun at phpbb lovers Dec 21 04:57:04 RP: where I should look in kernel to be able to change reboot/poweroff behaviour? Dec 21 05:09:59 hrw|work: Try reboot=s on the commandline Dec 21 05:10:26 files that control it include arch/arm/kernel/process.c and include/asm-arm/arch-pxa/system.h Dec 21 05:13:10 hrw|work: Looks like we need to implement a pm_power_off() function as well Dec 21 05:17:04 ok Dec 21 05:17:54 RP: reboot=s in kernel CMDLINE? Dec 21 05:27:14 hrw|work: yes Dec 21 05:27:55 RP: btw - rc6 works on my Z Dec 21 05:28:14 hrw|work: Does it help the SD card> Dec 21 05:28:15 ? Dec 21 05:28:43 RP: not at all Dec 21 05:29:22 hrw|work: Ok, just wondered. I don't think much changed apart from the SCR fix Dec 21 05:55:03 booting 'reboot=s' kernel Dec 21 05:58:38 now rebooting with 'reboot' Dec 21 05:59:00 RP: power off as usual Dec 21 05:59:24 ~lart am__fastdepCXX Dec 21 05:59:24 * ibot urinates on am__fastdepCXX Dec 21 06:01:35 console=ttyS0,115200n8 console=tty1 noinitrd root=/dev/mtdblock2 rootfstype=jffs2 dyntick=enable debug reboot=s Dec 21 06:03:36 ~lart autotools Dec 21 06:03:37 * ibot blasts autotools to oblivion with a kamehameha wave Dec 21 06:19:03 ~seen cosmicpenguin Dec 21 06:19:20 cosmicpenguin was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 13h 18m 42s ago, saying: 'they're getting off left and right'. Dec 21 06:26:56 <_law_> any ideas why my bluetooth phone always losts paring after i restart my Z ? Dec 21 06:27:32 _law_: zaurus lose not phone Dec 21 06:28:16 <_law_> hrw|work, but my phone removes the Z from his list also Dec 21 06:28:42 hmm.. Dec 21 06:28:44 <_law_> hrw|work, any ideas why the zaurus those this? Dec 21 06:29:08 bluez store in /var/lib/bluetooth/ which is tmpfs Dec 21 06:29:21 iirc there was suggestion to store it in /etc/bluetooth/ Dec 21 06:29:53 <_law_> hrw|work, a Dec 21 06:32:36 hrw|work: The next step is to find exactly what the sharp 2.4 kernel did and comapre it with system.h then... Dec 21 06:34:33 ok Dec 21 06:34:35 luncht ime Dec 21 07:00:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r10d19bfc... 10/packages/dbh/dbh_1.0-18.bb: dbh: fix staging Dec 21 07:02:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbf715e5e... 10/packages/xfce-utils/ (xfce-utils.inc xfce-utils_4.2.2.bb): xfce-utils: package and install mcs-plugins as well Dec 21 07:02:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r06d0fb11... 10/packages/xfce4-panel/ (xfce4-panel.inc xfce4-panel_4.2.2.bb): xfce4-panel: package and install mcs-plugins as well Dec 21 07:02:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9984e202... 10/packages/xfdesktop/ (xfdesktop.inc xfdesktop_4.2.2.bb): Dec 21 07:02:21 xfdesktop: packaging tweaks Dec 21 07:02:21 * package and install mcs-plugins as well Dec 21 07:02:21 * include panel plugins in main package Dec 21 07:02:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r29084181... 10/packages/xfwm4/ (xfwm4.inc xfwm4_4.2.2.bb): xfwm4: package and install mcs-plugins as well Dec 21 07:08:33 koen: fighting with xfce bugs? Dec 21 07:08:51 I think I've solved most of them Dec 21 07:09:26 xfwm still have a serious bug: it doesn't work with 16bit displays when XCOMPOSTITE is enabled Dec 21 07:09:41 -T somewhere Dec 21 07:10:40 XCOMPOSITE Dec 21 07:10:52 that one Dec 21 07:11:08 that will report 24 bit (16bit color + 8 bit alpha) Dec 21 07:11:21 and that breaks a lot of wrong assumptions Dec 21 07:13:58 (xfwm4:5283): Gdk-WARNING **: gdkpixbuf-drawable.c:1257: Depth of the source drawable is 16 where as the visual depth of the colormap passed is 24 Dec 21 07:15:34 hrw|work: hi, do you know if there are mips projects in OE? Dec 21 07:16:01 nylon? Dec 21 07:16:48 hrw|work: looking at xfce-panel and xfce-desktop, I think it would be nice for Ångström to ship a xfce image too Dec 21 07:22:00 koen: good idea Dec 21 07:22:12 greentux: mips(el) - wrt54, meshcube Dec 21 07:22:25 mmh Dec 21 07:22:25 greentux: first machine is wrt54, second is nylon Dec 21 07:23:33 ok. i have a AMD Au1500 CPU Hardware.. Dec 21 07:23:49 see http://mycable.de Dec 21 07:24:18 greentux: CosmicPenguin toys? Au1xxx Dec 21 07:31:58 hrw|work: cosmic penguin toys? Dec 21 07:32:07 hrw|work: au1500 yes Dec 21 07:34:11 greentux, I have a pb1500 on my desk. I'll be doing some audio stuff with it soon Dec 21 07:34:39 lrg|home: hi lrg. the xxs1500 board has simple ac97 on board Dec 21 07:35:16 greentux: the board I have is modded to allow different ac97 codecs. Dec 21 07:35:35 lrg|home: ok Dec 21 07:35:50 i think we have to start a new target for that nice board we wanna use Dec 21 07:36:20 greentux: i was thinking the same. :) Dec 21 07:36:23 greentux: iirc cosmic use au1xxx for something Dec 21 07:36:55 hrw|work: I wonder if he has a machine file for it Dec 21 07:37:15 ~seen CosmicPenguin Dec 21 07:37:20 cosmicpenguin was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 14h 36m 42s ago, saying: 'they're getting off left and right'. Dec 21 07:38:24 the AMD build-engineer has push access, but needs to confirm he's using the correct db Dec 21 07:39:29 koen: btw I'm starting the uda1330 driver now Dec 21 07:39:36 great! Dec 21 07:40:00 time to unbreak my h2200's bootloader Dec 21 07:40:40 koen: is there any good resource on the h2200 hw, in particular audio schematics ? Dec 21 07:40:41 koen: cosmigpenguin is amd engineer? Dec 21 07:41:05 greentux, yes Dec 21 07:41:11 greentux: afaik CP is the manager managing the engineers Dec 21 07:41:37 fine. will contact Dec 21 07:41:50 lrg|home: all docs we have are in http://handhelds.org/platforms/hp/ipaq-h22xx/ Dec 21 07:42:00 koen: thanks Dec 21 07:42:20 lrg|home: otherwise mreimer, joshua___ and pb_ would know Dec 21 07:49:29 [lala]: perhaps there is a OE chance for au15xx Dec 21 08:20:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1f3c5209... 10/packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.3.bb: xserver-common: add 1.3 Dec 21 08:20:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd64eb3fa... 10/packages/xfwm4/xfwm4_4.2.3.2.bb: xfwm4: update to 4.2.3.2 Dec 21 08:23:40 I nearly finished #524 fix Dec 21 08:31:22 pushed to BT Dec 21 08:38:17 lets hope trac gets monotone support Dec 21 08:40:57 time to upgrade mysql in repo Dec 21 08:41:08 4.1.10 and 4.1.12 are not fetchable anymore Dec 21 08:42:42 koen: have some spare cpu time/diskspace on ewi maybe? Dec 21 08:42:53 sure Dec 21 08:43:34 so lets make builddir there. Dec 21 08:44:30 /var/www/OE/OE.db.bz2 is the db snapshot Dec 21 08:44:50 I know Dec 21 08:45:35 hi all, so I now have a booting kernel on my Samsung Nexio XP30 Dec 21 08:46:07 how what do I do now to get OE with gpe and Opie on this baby with her 800x480 res Dec 21 08:46:08 ? Dec 21 08:46:33 write a machine config file Dec 21 08:46:46 conf/machine/h2200.conf would be a nice example Dec 21 08:46:52 add kernel Dec 21 08:46:53 and I also have a semi-populated rootfs built from buildroot Dec 21 08:47:02 ok Dec 21 08:48:01 should I keep the buildroot fs or create a new one from scratch? Dec 21 08:48:32 for oe Dec 21 08:48:50 keep for now - you will need fstab and maybe few others files Dec 21 08:51:39 ok Dec 21 08:53:57 koen: nl.debian.org? Dec 21 08:54:07 yes Dec 21 08:54:27 that will give you a nice 100MBit lan connection to debian :) Dec 21 09:00:13 ok Dec 21 09:03:33 bitbake mysql 4.1.16 started Dec 21 09:04:03 heh.. ewi does 1st time parsing faster then my machines do it 2nd time Dec 21 09:08:31 koen: have DL_DIR on ewi which I could use as CVS_TARBALL_STASH? Dec 21 09:10:03 ok. found Dec 21 09:18:00 Hi CosmicPenguin Dec 21 09:18:19 CosmicPenguin: heard you are working at au15xx oe support? Dec 21 09:20:39 good morning CosmicPenguin Dec 21 09:23:44 seems busy. ok, perhaps i read that and can dro me a mailcontact to m@box.li Dec 21 09:23:59 s/i/he Dec 21 09:30:38 ooops Dec 21 09:33:34 NOTE: package mysql-4.1.16-r0: task do_build: completed Dec 21 09:33:38 CosmicPenguin: xfce-image builds again Dec 21 09:33:47 nice Dec 21 09:33:57 * CosmicPenguin should build that again sometime... :) Dec 21 09:34:12 That was so long ago -thats the problem with being at a company - you bounce around so much Dec 21 09:34:21 xfce does need some RDEPEND/RRECOMMEND loving Dec 21 09:49:39 cu Dec 21 11:18:44 Trying to build gpe-image from oz354fam083, I'm getting this: Packaged contents of kernel into /opt/oe/build/tmp/deploy/ipk/kernel_2.6.13-hh1+cvs20051212-r0_h2200.ipk Dec 21 11:18:44 kernel-image-2.6.13-hh1OpenEmbedded Dec 21 11:18:44 *** Error: Package name contains illegal characters, (other than [a-z0-9.+-]) Dec 21 11:18:53 suggestions? Dec 21 11:19:10 I have no local changes in my checked-out tree Dec 21 11:20:37 I might have Dec 21 11:20:39 * koen checks Dec 21 11:23:03 mreimer: I have an uncommitted change Dec 21 11:26:39 mreimer: if you monotone pull you should have a working defconfig Dec 21 11:26:48 thanks koen Dec 21 11:27:33 my branding efforts collided with debian package naming and module dependency generation Dec 21 11:28:17 oops Dec 21 11:28:35 thanks for fixing that koen Dec 21 11:28:59 * Philippe is back (gone 19:37:36) Dec 21 11:31:00 hi Dec 21 11:31:29 gah - too little code, too much crap Dec 21 11:48:05 hmmm Dec 21 11:48:18 the shell has issues with working directory on failures, somtimes Dec 21 11:56:12 is there a reason why konq/e is being built with a version date in 2003? Dec 21 11:56:29 when building opie-image Dec 21 12:01:49 how about this error building konq? "*** No rule to make target `-lpcre', needed by `konqueror'. Stop." Dec 21 12:03:42 hmm... libpcre3-dev needs to be installed on the build machine? I thought that OE built all of the dependancys it needs. Dec 21 12:11:08 <[lala]> bipolar: it's a known bug - afaik there is no maintainer atm Dec 21 12:11:14 dammit - nothing is working today Dec 21 12:14:39 ah Dec 21 12:15:02 [lala]: is there another opie compatable browser in the system? Dec 21 12:15:03 bipolar: you can bypass problem, remove libcre stuff from Makefile.in line 228, and LIBCRE from MakeFile in konqueror-embedded-snapshot-20030705/konq-embed/src Dec 21 12:15:15 aquadran: thanks! Dec 21 12:15:50 bipolar: there is links in text mode Dec 21 12:15:58 heh... ouch Dec 21 12:16:21 bipolar: you could enable the SDL driver and see how that goes in opie Dec 21 12:16:37 I guess that since opie is qt based, a khtml based browser is the way to go... Dec 21 12:16:43 XorA|gone: thats and interesting idea Dec 21 12:17:01 bipolar: I checked in a links-x11 today for my own use Dec 21 12:17:31 bipolar: links in gfx mode makes quite a nice PDA browser Dec 21 12:18:04 XorA|gone: that would need gpe though, right? Dec 21 12:18:27 bipolar: links-x11 would, but no reason you couldnt do a links-sdl in asimilar way Dec 21 12:19:06 bipolar: Im just not sure if SDL supports touchscreen in opie, never tried it and dont have an opie machine Dec 21 12:20:17 I've just got a 5500 Zaurus. Working with ko/pi and ka/pi. Dec 21 12:27:51 Links is horribly easy to hack Dec 21 12:34:37 CosmicPenguin: a Qt/e gfx driver for it would solve opie's lack of working browser problem Dec 21 12:37:29 I made a nano-X version of Links in a few days Dec 21 12:37:33 of course, that was a couple of years ago Dec 21 12:41:32 CosmicPenguin: cool Dec 21 12:41:42 CosmicPenguin: maybe someone will get the itch for opie Dec 21 13:36:24 hey Dec 21 13:39:18 looks like I missed another ping in here Dec 21 13:49:03 zecke_: long time no type Dec 21 14:24:11 * france is back (gone 38:09:14) Dec 21 14:51:46 good evening Dec 21 14:52:16 hey mickeyl Dec 21 14:54:49 hey mickeyl Dec 21 14:55:03 hey bipolar! t's been a long time. how are you doing? Dec 21 14:55:26 hey bipolar, mickeyl, koen Dec 21 14:55:28 doing ok. Dec 21 14:55:31 hi kergoth Dec 21 14:55:39 hey kergoth Dec 21 14:55:48 mickeyl, koen: hows oe coming along? havent messed with it in quite a while now Dec 21 14:55:59 my older brother (who works with me now) just got an iPaq, and I got the itch to work on my Z... Dec 21 14:56:00 hey Dec 21 14:56:03 it's looking pretty good Dec 21 14:56:05 kergoth: hiya Dec 21 14:56:11 zecke_ yo Dec 21 14:56:17 the gangs all here ;) Dec 21 14:56:23 hehe Dec 21 14:56:30 time for a small party ;) Dec 21 14:56:43 * bipolar starts dancing on his desk Dec 21 14:56:45 * zecke_ asks Harlekin to join Dec 21 14:57:30 kergoth: fairly well. we have some mid size restructurations to do after the next set of oz/fam releases - need to enforce a bit more consitsency and policies for distro and machine things as well as revamping the bootstrap stuff to get some more fine granular task-based selection. maintainer situation and bug report situation is not bad as well, so I think we're ok :)) Dec 21 14:58:05 and we have a whopping 13 people with write access Dec 21 14:58:21 which will probably double after the nslu2 people clean up their db Dec 21 14:58:26 yeah Dec 21 14:58:32 * Twiun yawns Dec 21 14:58:35 hey guys whats the latest dev branch that is being used? is it still org.openembedded.dev?? Dec 21 14:58:47 Ops Morning All Dec 21 14:58:47 nice Dec 21 14:59:02 I just built opie-image... time to see if it works. Dec 21 14:59:03 how is the automated testing and such that zecke was messing with, going? Dec 21 14:59:04 hmmm Dec 21 14:59:07 for quality control and all that Dec 21 14:59:14 * koen needs rdev Dec 21 14:59:28 kergoth: some things are a bit halted due to zecke loading too much things on his small shoulders Dec 21 14:59:31 ah Dec 21 14:59:32 same here, btw. Dec 21 14:59:33 thats too bad Dec 21 14:59:53 I'll be more or less out of reach until mid next yera Dec 21 14:59:55 year, even Dec 21 14:59:56 if only uni wouldn't exist... Dec 21 15:00:02 heh, yeah Dec 21 15:00:12 then i wouldn't need to graduate Dec 21 15:00:13 heh Dec 21 15:00:41 * kergoth is thinking about going back to school and getting a 4 year degree at some point here Dec 21 15:00:49 And Uni+Part Time job does not get me more time :( Dec 21 15:01:32 kergoth: might be a wise decision, if you can afford it somehow Dec 21 15:01:53 ZonE-HaKin9: yep, .dev is the latest stuff. oz354fam083 contains the "stable" branch Dec 21 15:01:56 i'd like to move out of the code monkey positions and more into a higher level architectural / design role Dec 21 15:02:14 but those tendn to require both technical and business skill, most likely an appropriate degree from one or both Dec 21 15:02:18 OT: If you like Berlin OE, QtE, Linux on ARM (any match) we have plenty of stuff to offer! Dec 21 15:02:27 Harlekin! hey Dec 21 15:02:35 bipolar: now we are even more complete Dec 21 15:02:38 veterans party Dec 21 15:02:45 * mickeyl opens a beer Dec 21 15:02:56 * zecke starts hacking Perl to get the @INC out of the registry... Dec 21 15:02:57 * kergoth blows the dust off an sl5500 Dec 21 15:02:57 eek Dec 21 15:03:00 :) Dec 21 15:03:07 * koen waves a leffe brun in front of mickeyl Dec 21 15:03:19 mmh.... leffe brun Dec 21 15:03:22 k00l thanx mickeyl Dec 21 15:03:31 hey kergoth Dec 21 15:03:34 might be the best reason to come to FOSDEM :D Dec 21 15:03:57 zecke: :) Dec 21 15:04:08 mickeyl: FOSDEM! Dec 21 15:04:32 twin zecke Dec 21 15:04:38 Philippe: I'm still want to talk, kust have to find the time to mail a proposal Dec 21 15:04:39 yeah. we need to decide on doing something or not before Philippe runs out of slots Dec 21 15:04:58 zecke: nokia is looking into making maemo work on qvga Dec 21 15:05:05 koen: cool Dec 21 15:05:17 koen: keypad input as well? Dec 21 15:05:34 zecke: that's the plan Dec 21 15:05:43 * mickeyl solely using his 770 as browser for dict.leo.org atm. Dec 21 15:05:44 they want world domination ;) Dec 21 15:05:59 koen: Nokia is evil anyway ;) Dec 21 15:06:08 yeah Dec 21 15:06:11 koen: and will probably fail quickly :-) Dec 21 15:06:13 they don't pay you and all Dec 21 15:06:15 koen: I battle them on the DVB-H front Dec 21 15:06:47 * zecke remembers Nokia bashing at interop workshops... Dec 21 15:09:02 I wish ko/pi and ka/pi were better at qvga. I might have to rob a bank and buy a newer Z. Dec 21 15:09:27 i'd like a 770, but honestly dont know what i'd use it for Dec 21 15:09:44 Annoying mindfunk Dec 21 15:10:46 He was annoyed when he found out I got one for $100 through dev program Dec 21 15:11:02 hehe Dec 21 15:11:06 hehe Dec 21 15:11:19 mindfunk still in omap ssp, hacking on drivers? Dec 21 15:11:29 best thing was that simply mentioning my involvement in OE to be enough to be accepted for the discount Dec 21 15:11:42 haha, nice Dec 21 15:11:42 he's still at TI not sure what exactly he is doing Dec 21 15:13:03 go easy on Blue_Sky, he's a new guy :) Dec 21 15:13:18 I'll go lart him for using colour Dec 21 15:13:24 hehe, thanks Dec 21 15:13:47 he's a couple of cubes over Dec 21 15:13:52 ah :) Dec 21 15:13:52 and struggling Dec 21 15:15:55 hmm he's staring at a hung download Dec 21 15:15:57 much like me Dec 21 15:16:21 any volunteers for adding an eabi toolchain? Dec 21 15:16:36 * mickeyl hides Dec 21 15:17:01 eabi? sounds like something you say when you're consipated Dec 21 15:17:18 koen: we do not need volunteers, we are democrats! Dec 21 15:17:30 * zecke proposes to elect pb_ for adding an EABI toolchain to OE Dec 21 15:17:42 Please Cast your votes now Dec 21 15:17:48 lol Dec 21 15:18:18 pb_ wouldn't be a good democrat if he would not accept the result of this free election Dec 21 15:18:19 * mickeyl points at pb_ as well Dec 21 15:18:22 the only big hurdle is eabi enabled kernel headers Dec 21 15:18:57 * zecke should try harder to get some money for OE development... Dec 21 15:19:13 ha koen, back from the cinema then... Dec 21 15:19:37 Philippe: yup Dec 21 15:19:52 koen, mickeyl : well I can hold on to a slot for a while. Dec 21 15:20:09 hmmm Dec 21 15:20:24 maybe using a x86 rdev on an arm kernel isn't such a good idea Dec 21 15:20:45 btw koen, it is Leffe Brune... Anyhow the radieuse is even better... Dec 21 15:21:09 Philippe: I'm halfeay through my stock of radieuse Dec 21 15:21:15 Philippe: that'd be cool. I really would like to have a small Opie Q/A session, but I'm not sure whether I'll have time to prepare a talk or not. Dec 21 15:21:59 mreimer: the new lab is working Dec 21 15:22:09 koen: great! Dec 21 15:22:21 mickeyl, I can keep something open for at least two weeks if that helps... Dec 21 15:22:23 koen: I have some OE patches for you... Dec 21 15:22:26 I'm building a new zImage + modules to put in my rootfs Dec 21 15:22:37 good Dec 21 15:22:39 mreimer: you have access yourself :) Dec 21 15:22:46 ok :-) Dec 21 15:22:46 Philippe: ok, i'll get you a definitive statement until then. thanks Dec 21 15:22:56 koen: just want to get your approval first Dec 21 15:23:14 koen: 1) florian released blueprobe 0.16 which contains the h2200 bt detection patch Dec 21 15:23:51 koen: 2) I needed to add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "1" to xextensions_1.0.1.bb in order to get xserver-kdrive to build Dec 21 15:24:26 mreimer: blueprobe is already in: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev Dec 21 15:24:36 koen: but of course :-) Dec 21 15:24:39 speedy Dec 21 15:24:40 and go ahead on the xextensions thing Dec 21 15:24:49 don't tell me you committed that change during the movie Dec 21 15:25:00 koen: 3) h2200-bootloader.bb needs to be tweaked to not error out if mtdblock and/or hamcop_nand are built-in Dec 21 15:25:52 koen: shall I commit #3 as well? Dec 21 15:34:42 let's see, where's that commit message guide? Dec 21 15:42:12 mreimer, koen, joshua_: which one of you is the main LAB guru? I'm thinking of getting LAB to the h1940 too, but don't know if that's even possible, and what needs to be done for that Dec 21 15:42:29 * mreimer nudges joshua_ Dec 21 15:43:35 g'night guys Dec 21 15:46:07 I gotta look into opie-image to see how it's made so I can make my own custom image. Dec 21 15:48:41 joshua_: ping Dec 21 16:16:58 guys, I just built konqueror as part of opie-image and it seems to be working fine Dec 21 16:30:42 heh... XorA|gone was the one I was talking to about that... Dec 21 16:32:14 hmm... konq/e doesnt to https Dec 21 16:43:56 * Philippe is away: visual contact - comfy bed Dec 21 17:18:30 * joshua_ nudged Dec 21 17:18:33 ArjanS, Hello! Dec 21 17:35:11 anyone here had problems with monotone not accepting a private key passphrase after the db upgrade? Dec 21 17:40:54 does anyone know how to get dd to append to an existing file? Dec 21 17:41:37 seek= Dec 21 17:41:46 skips that number of blocks in the output file Dec 21 17:41:48 set that to the file size Dec 21 17:41:59 (in dd blocks, naturally) Dec 21 17:42:40 ah. ok. thanks kergoth Dec 21 17:42:44 np Dec 21 17:42:56 skip is input, seek is output Dec 21 17:42:56 iirc Dec 21 17:51:20 kergoth: happy something or other! Dec 21 17:53:33 kergoth: that worked. thanks! Dec 21 17:53:47 kergoth: had to resize an ext2 image to 165M for my Z :) Dec 21 17:54:27 no problem Dec 21 17:55:19 I'm amazed at how much better the whole system works when using altboot with an image on the sd card. Dec 21 17:59:08 kergoth: is there a command I can run in the build system to refresh the Packages file? Dec 21 18:00:52 it isnt a function of the buildsystem persay. its the usual ipkg-make-index you'd use for any feed Dec 21 18:01:00 kergoth: oh, ok. Dec 21 18:01:07 the image creation process uses it for package installation, so its out in staging's bindir Dec 21 18:01:15 gotcha Dec 21 18:25:05 Is koen's server uptodate? Dec 21 18:25:21 I get a warning about unmet dependencies Dec 21 18:30:02 Laibsch: could it be your database is corrupt? Dec 21 18:32:38 anyway good nite Dec 21 18:32:49 nite Dec 21 18:32:49 Laibsch: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/47/date.html Dec 21 18:32:58 Laibsch: I do not find the exact message Dec 21 18:33:46 I get the unmet dependencies too, but I update it again and it has less revs to process Dec 21 18:35:23 is it normal to have to update several times before I get all the revisions? I'm trying to get the database for the first time Dec 21 18:37:22 * france is away: Away Dec 21 18:43:30 sorry, it's a monotone problem Dec 21 18:44:00 this comment about the new X release is awesome: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=171888&cid=14313175 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 21 23:15:38 2005 Dec 22 01:48:47 morning Dec 22 02:49:12 morning all Dec 22 02:49:34 hi Dec 22 02:50:30 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r3f4f2f6a... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: h2200 defconfig: commit working version Dec 22 02:50:36 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4e7429b2... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: familiar-0.8.3: tweak some cvs dates Dec 22 02:50:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5c9ed579... 10/packages/xfcalendar/xfcalendar_4.2.3.bb: xfcalendar: add 4.2.3 Dec 22 02:50:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r718f1973... 10/packages/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager_4.2.3.bb: xfce-mcs-manager: update to 4.2.3 Dec 22 02:50:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r112e2a14... 10/packages/xfce-mcs-plugins/xfce-mcs-plugins_4.2.3.bb: xfce-mcs-plugins: update to 4.2.3 Dec 22 02:50:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4c0352e7... 10/packages/libxfcegui4/ (libxfcegui4_4.2.3.bb libxfcegui4.inc): Dec 22 02:50:56 libxfcegui4: Dec 22 02:50:56 * fix staging Dec 22 02:50:56 * add 4.2.3 Dec 22 02:51:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd1aa9760... 10/packages/xffm/ (xffm_4.2.3.bb xffm.inc): xffm: ship mcs-plugins as well and update to 4.2.3 Dec 22 02:51:05 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rbb06a937... 10/packages/links/ (3 files in 2 dirs): links_2.1pre20, links-x11_2.1pre20: add the latest version of the links2 browser and create a bb file for the x11 version as default is fb/gpm based. Dec 22 02:51:09 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r21768dfb... 10/packages/mysql/ (11 files in 4 dirs): Dec 22 02:51:09 mysql: update to 4.1.16 - close #485 Dec 22 02:51:09 - dropped 4.1.10a, 4.1.12 Dec 22 02:51:09 - removed MAINTAINER field Dec 22 02:51:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rfc703f16... 10/packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.1.27.bb: gpe-conf: add 0.1.27 Dec 22 02:51:18 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r408a9f01... 10/packages/blueprobe/blueprobe_0.16.bb: blueprobe: add 0.16 Dec 22 02:53:30 ~hail koen Dec 22 02:53:34 * ibot bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Dec 22 02:55:35 vanille is back up then :-) Dec 22 02:55:37 congrats to XorA and hrw too, btw Dec 22 02:55:45 hi XorA ^^ Dec 22 02:56:11 alan|laptop: congrats? Dec 22 02:56:52 well, for corrections to bb files... Dec 22 02:57:10 alan|laptop: just me skiving my work :-) Dec 22 02:57:18 :) Dec 22 02:58:25 XorA: i went to london yesterday. It had been a long long time since i last came. You know what : i missed england, and i didn't know how much ^^ Dec 22 02:59:05 * RP dislikes London... Dec 22 02:59:06 alan|laptop: cool, next time go to edinburgh Dec 22 02:59:16 XorA: much better ;-) Dec 22 02:59:30 XorA: ok. RP : that is because you don't know Paris... Dec 22 02:59:36 * XorA waits for OE people to make it here so he can buy them beer **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 22 02:59:58 2005