**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 27 03:00:00 2005 Dec 27 03:06:28 hi all Dec 27 04:26:07 can someone explin me whe osb-jscore should not be linked against libstc++ ? it fails to build on gcc 4.0 because of missing __cxa_... ? Dec 27 04:36:51 hello is some oe developer there ? Dec 27 04:41:38 hello Dec 27 04:41:52 hi pb_ Dec 27 04:42:22 i am still trying to build osb-jscore :-( Dec 27 04:43:17 that is unfortunate Dec 27 04:44:34 whith wich version of gcc do you build your images ? Dec 27 04:45:07 to be honest I haven't built any images for months Dec 27 04:45:14 I guess I used gcc 3.4 or some such last tie Dec 27 04:45:17 last time, even Dec 27 04:46:30 yeah, after some time now I have found the problems, there are namspace problems with gcc4.0, and needs libstc++ Dec 27 04:47:07 ah Dec 27 04:48:08 i don't know if my changes are correct but it builds ... i will post it when i have an email connection, hopfully someone can verify it ... Dec 27 04:49:06 how can i tell bitbake that i wont to clean on package and then build new without parsing the bb files two times ? Dec 27 04:54:42 use "bitbake -b" Dec 27 04:56:04 ah i make bitbake -c clean -b some_package.bb -c build some-meta.bb, correct ? Dec 27 04:56:33 wrong it must be: bitbake -c clean -b some_package.bb -c build -b some-meta.bb, correct ? Dec 27 04:56:48 or 'reparse package ; rebuild package' in bitbake -i Dec 27 04:58:21 ~ibot help Dec 27 04:59:00 ok thanks, when now my bitbajke task-bootstrap is finished, how do i make jffs2 images or how are the images build ? Dec 27 04:59:16 bitbake bootstrap image Dec 27 04:59:33 bootstrap-image that is Dec 27 04:59:49 or gpe-image, opie-image, xfce-image, etc Dec 27 05:02:21 ok , thanks Dec 27 05:02:44 koen : may i ask a few questions please ? Dec 27 05:06:16 koen : I needed vlc-gpe based on gtk+. so I have executed following command that "bitbake vlc-gpe". but i got the vlc-gpe based on qte. how to get vlc-gpe based on gtk+ ? Dec 27 05:14:57 hi lrg|home Dec 27 05:15:36 hi greentux Dec 27 05:22:06 hi, I am getting endiannes was not defined for a mipsel target, how can I solve it? Dec 27 05:27:55 lrg|home: i have a headset now. is there any input code available? Dec 27 05:28:04 TARGET_ARCH = "mipsel" Dec 27 05:28:04 TARGET_OS = "linux" Dec 27 05:29:12 bora: you need a better glibc Dec 27 05:30:55 so glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1 is not enough? Dec 27 05:31:21 not if you are fetching the sources from cvs Dec 27 05:33:32 greentux, I've sent it to RP. It's version 0.10pre1 Dec 27 05:34:10 greentux, The switching logic is in the driver atm, although it will be moved out into alsa-lib eventually Dec 27 05:35:12 lrg|home: sometimes al will be the big oss coloss :) Dec 27 05:35:20 lrg|home: s/al/alsa Dec 27 05:35:39 greentux: :) Dec 27 05:35:42 lrg|home: but i think its much lighter Dec 27 05:36:12 greentux: there is also a userspace daemon to write Dec 27 05:36:26 lrg|home: for what? Dec 27 05:36:48 pb_, then PREFERRED_PROVIDER_glibc = "glibc-2.3.3" is the correct syntax? Dec 27 05:37:10 greentux: we need someway of monitoring the jack for insertion (and type detection) so that we can automagically set the driver into the correct profile Dec 27 05:37:38 lrg|home: ahh ok, in the moment we have to set it fix? Dec 27 05:38:04 greentux: this will also be able to display a dialog for machine that cant detect a jack type after a detectionm Dec 27 05:38:12 bora: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/51/5136.html Dec 27 05:38:20 greentux: atm we must manually do it using alsa-lib Dec 27 05:38:25 and alsamixer Dec 27 05:39:15 lrg|home: ok, if you can specify the user space daemon i can ask a developer here to do that job (in C?) Dec 27 05:40:29 greentux: RP already had some ideas for a generic daemon. I'll get together with him and come up with some requirements for you. Dec 27 05:40:48 pb_: thanks, I am examining it... Dec 27 05:40:48 hey mithro cb_away Dec 27 05:40:54 hey guys Dec 27 05:41:01 and over it is... Dec 27 05:41:04 (christmas, that is) Dec 27 05:41:10 lrg|home: in january we have to decide what to do with OE in our company 2006... so perhaps i will get some ressources **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 27 06:05:15 2005 Dec 27 06:21:39 mickey|snowwalk: mallum will need to fix that - I'll mention it Dec 27 06:21:44 hi greentux, lrg|home Dec 27 06:22:00 hey RP Dec 27 07:02:50 thanks to the link given by Koen, I passed endianness problem but at this time stuck with a nptl error Dec 27 07:03:25 that goes to me that http://www.spinics.net/lists/mips/msg20306.html Dec 27 07:05:22 jetzt saugen alle das hörbuch :) lustig Dec 27 07:05:56 selbst auf alt ist traffic Dec 27 07:06:19 mmh sieht schon komisch aus Dec 27 07:50:15 i got a problem during "bitbake gpe-image". bitbake request usbutils-0.70.tar.gz to unc.dl.sourceforge.net. i guess url deprecated. Dec 27 07:57:38 ~seen [lala] Dec 27 07:57:48 ~seen lala Dec 27 07:57:51 [lala] was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 5d 19h 47m 12s ago, saying: 'bipolar: it's a known bug - afaik there is no maintainer atm'. Dec 27 07:57:52 lala was last seen on IRC in channel #elive, 19d 12h 34m 51s ago, saying: 'tomyeah i love mac osx panther <= better tiger :P'. Dec 27 08:01:26 problem with building a kernel image: some modules are installed others not (e.g. bnep.ko is installed rfcomm.ko ain't) Dec 27 08:19:21 one question to the images, on my device i have now a custom kernel, i can directly flash the jffs2 image to another flash partition and mount it via mtd ? Dec 27 08:22:31 the jffs2 images are standard jffs2 images lik other ... ? Dec 27 08:30:46 boras: glibc is out of my area of expertise Dec 27 08:31:03 grma: you should be able to flash and mount it Dec 27 08:31:39 if mkfs.jffs2 used the correct, of course Dec 27 08:36:18 wonderfull, yeah, lets drive to mycompany and get the target ... yeah Dec 27 08:38:46 with what meta-data do i build my default kernel for my configuration ? Dec 27 08:39:25 packages/linux has a few examples Dec 27 08:39:32 thanks Dec 27 08:42:00 thx Koen Dec 27 08:52:11 is it normal to get an err message related to nptl if it is configured against to linuxthreads? Dec 27 08:52:30 -enable-add-ons=ports,linuxthread Dec 27 08:54:34 configure says "checking for MIPS TLS support... yes" Dec 27 08:55:52 also in the beginning "running configure fragment for add-on linuxthreads" Dec 27 08:56:20 I think we would give an --without-nptl or something like that Dec 27 09:00:24 where is the correct place to do it? cache/_opt_oe_org.openembedded.dev_packages_glibc_glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb? Dec 27 09:00:56 packages/glibc/ Dec 27 09:01:19 and add the flags you want to EXTRA_OECONF (or something similar looking) Dec 27 09:02:00 yes, I found it Dec 27 09:03:32 so I have to start everything from beginning? Dec 27 09:03:59 because cache is bypassed? Dec 27 09:04:39 bitbake -b would save you some time Dec 27 09:05:01 infact I am doing bitbake task-bootstrap Dec 27 09:05:59 still is it valid? or from beginning? Dec 27 09:12:17 i got the following error message during bitbake gpe-image. Dec 27 09:12:18 | oe_libinstall: cd src Dec 27 09:12:19 | oe_libinstall: install -d /home/stuff/build/tmp/staging/arm-linux/lib/ Dec 27 09:12:19 | FATAL: oe_libinstall: unable to locate shared library Dec 27 09:12:43 i don't know how to solve this problem. does anybody know how to solve this problem ? Dec 27 09:13:40 . /home/stuff/build/tmp/work/tslib-0.0cvs20051227-r32/temp/log.do_stage.2875 Dec 27 09:13:41 what .bb gives that error? Dec 27 09:13:47 tslib Dec 27 09:15:12 my environment : distro = openzaurus-3.5.4, machine = tosa (SL-6000L) Dec 27 09:15:38 monotone server : monotone.nslu2-linux.org Dec 27 09:16:22 cross build system : debian sarge -> arm Dec 27 09:18:09 wrong monotone server Dec 27 09:18:24 monotone.vanille.de ? Dec 27 09:18:30 that's the correct one Dec 27 09:18:55 and if you are building for oz-3.5.4 make sure you're using the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch Dec 27 09:19:34 use org.openembedded.oz354fam083 only ? Dec 27 09:20:38 hi all Dec 27 09:20:43 hey Mardy Dec 27 09:20:54 koen : thx. Dec 27 09:22:23 koen : i was used to org.openembedded.dev. Dec 27 09:22:46 kergoth: ping Dec 27 09:35:18 koen : '¤Ñ' i understand what u mean Dec 27 09:35:24 monotone --db=/home/stuff/oe.db pull monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.oz354fam083" Dec 27 09:35:25 BBPATH=/path/to/org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Dec 27 09:35:25 modify local.conf Dec 27 09:35:25 BBFILE=/path/to/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/*/*.bb Dec 27 09:35:32 koen : right ? Dec 27 09:36:02 that looks OK to me Dec 27 09:36:42 koen : thank u for your solution :-) Dec 27 09:41:10 glibc is really made for crosscompiling: minimum_kernel=`uname -r 2>/dev/null` || minimum_kernel= Dec 27 09:43:29 :) Dec 27 09:51:55 mickey|snowwalk: o-hand.com svn should be working again Dec 27 09:54:30 RP: That's what I call good service. OH even work on holidays :) Dec 27 09:57:07 lrg|home: we aim to please :) Dec 27 09:57:44 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rbd1a7af4... 10/packages/groff/ (groff_1.19.1.bb groff_1.19.2.bb): groff: remove bogus (hardcoded) RDEPENDS on libstdc++6 Dec 27 10:08:39 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r1af72bd5... 10/packages/man/ (man_1.5m2.bb man_1.5p.bb): man: set RDEPENDS_${PN} (for 1.5m2 too) Dec 27 10:19:33 --without-nptl doesnt work, I added --wtihout-__thread Dec 27 10:28:35 --wtihout-_thread also didnt work Dec 27 10:28:39 hi, need some advice on a bb file Dec 27 10:28:39 pvrusb2-mci requires tda9887 so I have added an RDEPENDS in the .bb file Dec 27 10:28:39 however, tda9887 needs to be started with port2=0 Dec 27 10:28:39 locally I can achieve that by adding in modprobe.conf: Dec 27 10:28:39 options tda9887 port2=0 Dec 27 10:28:42 (or I could stuff it in modutils) Dec 27 10:28:44 however, I have no idea how to achieve this in a .bb file Dec 27 10:28:46 actually I'm not even sure if I should do this in the pvrusb2 bb file it could equally well be done in kernel-module-tda9887 (but how to add things in there is completely out of my league). Dec 27 10:28:49 Advise anyone? Dec 27 10:28:51 ~ Dec 27 10:35:47 eFfeM: that does sound like something that should be done in kernel-module-tda9887. Dec 27 10:36:11 (assuming that you always need that argument on your particular MACHINE, anyway.) Dec 27 10:39:46 pb_, seems the best place to me as well, but although i can modify a .bb file I have no idea how to do something with ipkg's generated from the kernel Dec 27 10:43:45 I dont understant why --without-tls --without-__thread didnt work Dec 27 10:56:55 how can I prevent it from searching through nptl? Dec 27 11:11:21 RP: sorry, my city wlan dropped down... Dec 27 11:19:21 ~seen rp Dec 27 11:19:29 rp is currently on #openzaurus #gpe #handhelds.org #oe Dec 27 11:49:28 koen, do you have a view on the 63xx development? is there a chance for full usable linux smartphone? Dec 27 11:53:35 I think the h63xx will be able to make phone calls soon Dec 27 11:53:45 oh? Dec 27 11:53:50 that's cool Dec 27 11:54:00 hi treke Dec 27 11:54:06 hey treke Dec 27 11:54:33 greentux: the gsm stuff works, all that's left is to enable the soundchip to use mic + speaker Dec 27 11:55:24 greentux: and afaik the HTC blueangel can already make voice calls Dec 27 11:55:24 koen: ok, its possible to dial, but no audio communication possible... perhaps lrg can solve? Dec 27 11:55:37 bah Dec 27 11:55:43 dont tempt me into buying a 6300 Dec 27 11:56:07 koen: 8) dont expected that the blueangel is ready for voice calls... Dec 27 11:56:42 greentux: a minor downside is that only 1 open source application exist that can make voice calls on those units (http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator) Dec 27 11:57:19 koen: i saw the handsping with a linux kernel, but the guys dont use OE... Dec 27 11:58:00 ah, too bad Dec 27 11:58:07 greentux: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HpIpaqH6315 should have the latest status Dec 27 11:58:15 ~seen lamikr Dec 27 11:58:27 lamikr was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 5d 19h 14m 33s ago, saying: 'Yes, I repeaths phillippe's last sentence. :-)'. Dec 27 11:58:46 yes i know these sites, but i think you have a "feeling" if there is some progress... :) Dec 27 11:58:53 lamikr is the h6300 master in OE Dec 27 11:59:00 :) Dec 27 11:59:19 ah ok... will check if 63xx or blueangel have a usb host port... like the Z... Dec 27 11:59:48 i ordered a gsm/gprs cf card for the Z. hope this will work ... Dec 27 12:01:45 * koen has a phone to make phonecalls ;) Dec 27 12:02:36 yeh but i want to use ist for data and voice... perhaps. Dec 27 12:16:01 ~ibot Dec 27 12:16:04 methinks ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org// , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. Dec 27 12:35:42 hi ! i it a big problem for omeone to make this image opie.pics_anoncvs.handhelds.org__20051227.tar.gz? my cvs checkout hangs always on the same file ... Dec 27 13:02:31 hhey Dec 27 13:04:30 ~hail zecke Dec 27 13:04:33 * ibot bows down to zecke and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Dec 27 13:17:53 * treke bows before zecke Dec 27 13:45:29 ljp: ping Dec 27 13:45:59 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r93c67dae... 10/packages/gpe-mininet/ (gpe-mininet-0.5/makefile-fix.patch gpe-mininet_0.5.bb): gpe-mininet-0.5: Makefile fix for .dev Dec 27 13:46:04 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r02a38b91... 10/packages/gpe-what/ (gpe-what-0.33/makefile-fix.patch gpe-what_0.33.bb): gpe-what-0.33: Makefile fix for .dev Dec 27 13:48:32 cya later Dec 27 14:06:06 mithro: hey Dec 27 14:06:50 hey zecke Dec 27 14:06:56 you using socks for IRC yet? Dec 27 14:07:15 not yet Dec 27 14:34:24 pH5: autotools_stage_all fails when a .a is missing: install: cannot stat `libeel-2.a': No such file or directory Dec 27 14:36:34 hm. how to solve this? Dec 27 14:36:50 remove the -a switch from oe_libinstall in autotools_stage_all? Dec 27 14:37:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8f3dafaa... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-menus_2.12.0.bb: Dec 27 14:37:07 gnome-menus: add 2.12.0 Dec 27 14:37:07 * tweak packaging Dec 27 14:37:07 * enables python bindings Dec 27 14:38:25 mm, that's interesting. I wonder what conditions cause the .a not to get built. Dec 27 14:39:46 removing the -a flag is probably safe enough: nobody in their right mind ought to be using the static libraries anyway. still, it'd be nice to have something a little bit smarter than that. Dec 27 14:49:52 pH5: or touch all files before installing Dec 27 14:50:09 but that would create false .a files in staging Dec 27 14:51:44 yeah, that'd suck Dec 27 14:52:07 creating empty libraries in staging might provoke all kinds of weird results. Dec 27 14:55:24 the static library is installed if [ -f "$dota" -o -n "$require_static" ] Dec 27 14:55:42 so removing -a (aka require_static) seems to be the right thing here Dec 27 14:58:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r64a949f9... 10/packages/eel/eel_2.12.2.bb: eel: add 2.12.2 Dec 27 14:59:38 NOTE: package nautilus-2.12.2: completed Dec 27 14:59:45 removing -a seems to have done the job Dec 27 15:04:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r357daaae... 10/packages/nautilus/nautilus_2.12.2.bb: nautilus: add 2.12.2 Dec 27 15:24:06 NOTE: package r-native-2.0.0: completed Dec 27 15:24:08 sweet Dec 27 15:25:04 koen: -native? Dec 27 15:25:53 yep Dec 27 15:26:13 trying r_2.0.0.bb as we speak Dec 27 15:28:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r23cc3abc... 10/packages/r/r-native_2.0.0.bb: r: salvage r-native from nonworking/ as it seems to build again Dec 27 15:30:02 nice. nobody gets left behind :) Dec 27 15:38:20 boras: I can not identify with nickserv currently Dec 27 15:38:28 boras: can't aswert you due this Dec 27 15:38:34 * zecke listens to a BuildRoot talk... Dec 27 15:39:26 zecke: what do you mean? Dec 27 15:39:37 boras: I can not reply to you Dec 27 15:39:38 I dont know irc things Dec 27 15:39:57 boras: I'm at a public place and won't enter passwords in clear text Dec 27 15:40:03 ok Dec 27 15:41:36 i think there is an option accepting messages from somebody not identfified by nickserv Dec 27 15:41:53 set unfiltered on or similiar Dec 27 15:41:53 I will look into what is that command Dec 27 15:41:59 but I can not help much ATM Dec 27 15:42:06 ok Dec 27 15:45:29 zecke: I set the feature on Dec 27 15:45:45 hehe OE bashing Dec 27 15:46:21 zecke: are you wearing a 'buildroot sucks' t-shirt? Dec 27 15:46:43 koen: Well one 2.6 kernel for all ARCHS is enough ;) Dec 27 15:46:50 koen: just add your platform patches ;) Dec 27 15:47:07 :) Dec 27 15:47:13 "The core developers didn't like how OE works" Dec 27 15:47:32 yeah Dec 27 15:47:34 I do not even know how OE works.. how should OpenWRT devs know how it works... Dec 27 15:47:37 OE is too much like g3nt00 Dec 27 15:48:09 If I wouldn't be too tired and would not need power the plug... Dec 27 15:48:26 well I need an OE sticker for my laptop Dec 27 15:50:16 we need OE shirts Dec 27 15:50:27 * koen makes that his mission for FOSDEM Dec 27 15:51:33 I suspect I'll be wearing an o-hand shirt :) Dec 27 15:51:42 hmmm Dec 27 15:51:52 I believe mallum promised to send me one Dec 27 15:52:06 a well, I have some o-hand stickers left :) Dec 27 15:54:02 I have some of them somewhere as well for some reason... :) Dec 27 15:55:17 my c700 features an o-hand sticker Dec 27 15:55:55 * pH5 wants an "OE is like g3nt00" sticker Dec 27 16:00:09 * koen|bday -> beer Dec 27 16:00:11 later all Dec 27 16:00:58 bye koen|bday Dec 27 16:01:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdcd06605... 10/packages/intltool/intltool_0.34.bb: intltool: update to 0.34 Dec 27 16:01:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb17eed70... 10/packages/intltool/intltool-native_0.34.bb: intltool-native: update to 0.34 Dec 27 16:01:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r444c95ed... 10/packages/gnome/libwnck_2.12.1.bb: libwnck: update to 2.12.1 Dec 27 22:57:37 does anybody know how to solve following error ? Dec 27 22:57:38 root@sinc:/home/stuff# monotone --db=/home/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Dec 27 22:57:38 monotone: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.oz354fam083' is empty Dec 27 22:59:38 i got messages, when i pull the data from repository(monotone.vanille.de/org.openembedded.oz354fam083). Dec 28 01:00:06 hi , all Dec 28 01:01:02 I dont know why could not pull the db from monotone.vanille.de ? Dec 28 01:08:51 have anyone can succeed in fetching via monotone ? thankss Dec 28 01:47:35 hi Dec 28 01:48:06 good morning zecke Dec 28 01:49:26 hey Dec 28 01:49:31 how are you? Dec 28 01:51:36 very well. how's the 22c3? Dec 28 01:58:57 pb_: promising ;) Dec 28 01:59:16 pb_: the amount of young folk is... iritating Dec 28 01:59:26 pb_: I guess most of them are script kiddies :} Dec 28 02:01:04 hehe, I guess so Dec 28 02:03:09 cya later! Dec 28 02:03:15 * zecke takes breakfast now... Dec 28 02:05:05 bon appetit Dec 28 02:22:30 zecke: you're young, too :-) Dec 28 02:22:45 morning schurig, zecke, and pb Dec 28 02:23:03 treke: moin! You survived christmas? :-) Dec 28 02:23:09 indeed Dec 28 02:24:11 hi treke Dec 28 02:25:50 Good morning all! Dec 28 02:34:39 ping whoishere ? Dec 28 02:36:47 Morning darkschneider Dec 28 02:37:07 :) Dec 28 02:37:32 I have problems building a fresh opie-image ... Dec 28 02:37:40 gnu-config-native does not build. Dec 28 02:38:10 They say, they changed to pserver instead of ssh access, but bitbake tries ssh, even, if method=pserver. Dec 28 02:38:15 Any idea ? Dec 28 02:49:00 uv1: remove the gnu-config subdir in DL_DIR/cvs **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 28 02:59:58 2005