**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 29 02:59:58 2005 Dec 29 03:00:10 ok Dec 29 03:23:53 * koen tags familiar 0.8.3 Dec 29 03:30:42 * hrw|work looks how each attempt to get oz-sa built fails on one machine and works on other ;) Dec 29 03:40:18 koen: found. loadkeys failed Dec 29 03:42:43 hi Liam Dec 29 03:42:58 morning hrw|work Dec 29 03:44:22 NOTE: package openzaurus-sa-2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix-r22: task do_build: completed Dec 29 03:44:23 uf.. Dec 29 04:09:39 morning everyone Dec 29 04:09:50 hey alan__ Dec 29 04:10:25 hey koen Dec 29 04:18:56 mithro: that is the wrong talk? or was it replaced? Dec 29 04:19:40 i'm not sure Dec 29 04:20:17 Although computer-aided program verification and bug finding receives significant attention in academic circles, very little information on these efforts has been presented at conferences for security practicians; this talk intends to shed some light on the Dec 29 04:21:40 ah well my ical is outdatet again Dec 29 04:25:19 it is the correct talk Dec 29 04:25:28 just wasn't what we thought Dec 29 04:25:52 right Dec 29 04:26:03 it is getting more interesting now Dec 29 04:27:09 CIA-4: get ready Dec 29 04:49:29 zecke: where to now? Dec 29 04:49:40 i forgot to charge my laptop last night Dec 29 04:49:43 only got 1 hour left Dec 29 05:01:26 hrw|work: I restarted ciabot on vanille Dec 29 05:01:33 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra7674cb5... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ttf-gentium_1.01.bb: Dec 29 05:01:33 ttf-gentium: added Gentium TrueType font version 1.01 (license allow to distribute but not to changes) Dec 29 05:01:33 taken from .dev Dec 29 05:01:34 ok Dec 29 05:01:38 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r29622224... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ttf-hunkyfonts_0.3.0.bb: Dec 29 05:01:38 ttf-hunkyfonts: Added version 0.3.0 Dec 29 05:01:38 taken from .dev Dec 29 05:01:42 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * red58e139... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ttf.inc: Dec 29 05:01:42 ttf.inc (common for ttf-fonts/ttf-*.bb) updated Dec 29 05:01:42 - cleaned SECTION line (removed comment) Dec 29 05:01:44 - added OPIE stuff into DEPENDS/RSUGGESTS (still commented) Dec 29 05:01:46 taken from .dev Dec 29 05:01:48 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6c12bce0... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-dejavu_2.0.bb ttf-dejavu_2.1.bb): ttf-dejavu: updated to 2.1 Dec 29 05:01:51 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rfe12668d... 10/packages/qpf-fonts/ (10 files): qpf-dejavu*: updated to 2.1 Dec 29 05:01:56 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9cbff1d0... 10/packages/qpf-fonts/ (qpf-hunkysans_0.3.0.bb qpf-hunkyserif_0.3.0.bb): Dec 29 05:01:56 qpf-hunky(sans|serif): changed License to LGPL Dec 29 05:01:58 taken from .dev Dec 29 05:14:07 zecke: hows your talk? Dec 29 05:16:11 zecke: ping! Dec 29 05:18:04 ERROR: function do_munge failed Dec 29 05:18:08 ERROR: log data follows (/opt/oe/build/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1/temp/log.do_munge.25904) Dec 29 05:18:08 | mv: cannot overwrite directory `/opt/oe/build/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1/libc/ports' Dec 29 05:18:08 NOTE: Task failed: /opt/oe/build/tmp/work/glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1/temp/log.do_munge.25904 Dec 29 05:18:09 NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r1: task do_munge: failed Dec 29 05:18:09 ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting Dec 29 05:18:09 NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: failed Dec 29 05:18:18 I am giving the following errors? Dec 29 05:18:21 why? Dec 29 05:19:14 I found a gcc-4.0.2 TLS patch and I was trying to test it Dec 29 05:20:52 it is because I used a glibc snapshot from utwenty and if it is already contains them? Dec 29 05:37:08 RP: hi Dec 29 05:37:33 RP: sorry, i had big trouble with the wlan provider last days... so i had no chance to say good bye :) Dec 29 05:39:44 hi greentux Dec 29 05:40:02 hi hrw|work holydays finished? Dec 29 05:40:38 greentux: yep Dec 29 05:41:01 ok, i will start on 3th jan :) Dec 29 05:42:06 * lrg|home is working between christmas and new year Dec 29 05:42:46 * greentux yes. my boss had also two special tasks for me for holidays ... Dec 29 05:43:04 greentux: what were they ? Dec 29 05:43:51 lrg|home: to write a management-paper... what to do with these empedded stuff. if it is useful to invest in development etc etc Dec 29 05:44:20 greentux: have you finishedyet ? Dec 29 05:44:30 finished yet Dec 29 05:44:34 lrg|home: not started... Dec 29 05:45:30 lrg|home: he made big eyes seen th elinux on the Z working... and next week perhaps a voip call will be possible. Dec 29 05:46:45 greentux: yes, although I need to confirm the headset is working. Our headset order came back with the wrong headset :( I need to re-order in January Dec 29 05:47:19 lrg|home: i found at home a old one (mono, 3.5mm connector). will check that next week at office Dec 29 05:47:34 ~seen [lala] Dec 29 05:47:39 [lala] was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 7d 17h 36m 59s ago, saying: 'bipolar: it's a known bug - afaik there is no maintainer atm'. Dec 29 05:47:58 ...also holidays... :) Dec 29 05:48:08 greentux: excellent. I think I've done most of the coding so it should work. Dec 29 05:48:40 lrg|home: i will try to route the voip call via gprs-cf-card :) Dec 29 05:48:52 greentux: cool Dec 29 05:48:58 lrg|home: minisip has some low bandwidth codecs... will try that. Dec 29 05:50:49 lrg|home: ok, my 7 mont son wants to play with me :) Dec 29 05:51:45 greentux: cu Dec 29 05:51:51 cu greentux Dec 29 06:01:01 morning all Dec 29 06:01:18 morning RP Dec 29 06:02:05 RP: I've almost finished the uda codec stuff, I'll send later today. Dec 29 06:02:17 hey RP Dec 29 06:02:50 lrg|home: Sounds good - we just need to get hh.org interested :) Dec 29 06:02:54 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ref62b255... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-icon-theme_1.3.3.bb: gnome-icon-theme: fix DEPENDS and packaging Dec 29 06:03:07 I need to release a kernel update... Dec 29 06:03:07 RP: yes :) Dec 29 06:04:05 Hi all Dec 29 06:04:30 hi Dirk Dec 29 06:04:52 do13: I have a new patch for you as well :) Dec 29 06:05:11 Hi Liam. Great. resume working? Dec 29 06:05:11 do13: will send soon... Dec 29 06:05:26 do13: yes, and I've removed some bloat Dec 29 06:06:03 lrg|home: Did you changed the reset behaviour? Dec 29 06:07:07 do13: I'm going to #ifdef the warm reset out atm, util I get back to the office. It appears this requires a hw fix to work correctly on pxa255 :( Dec 29 06:07:20 ok so one more question just to clarify : if i do a bitbake -b gpe-image.bb ( after a -c clean of course ) will it gather all files again and create a totally new rootfs ? Dec 29 06:07:47 do13: the tosa may already have this fix. Dec 29 06:08:33 lrg|home: Which changes are required? Dec 29 06:09:52 do13: iirc, it's a rerouting of the ac97 sync line alt func gpio to another gpio. this way a warm reset can be performed manually by toggling the gpio in software Dec 29 06:11:10 hi RP Dec 29 06:12:11 rob_w-cgi: if you build all DEPENDS of gpe-image then it will create rootfs Dec 29 06:14:53 morning Dec 29 06:19:13 koen: http://notecase.sourceforge.net/ - another pdax pacakge for OE? Dec 29 06:19:48 looks like figment Dec 29 06:20:34 hrw|work: but let's add e17 first!! Dec 29 06:20:41 o wait, we have had that for months :) **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 29 06:48:40 2005 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Dec 29 06:56:54 2005 Dec 29 07:45:54 mithro_: https://events.ccc.de/congress/2005/wiki/Lightning_Talks Dec 29 07:46:50 hi there Dec 29 07:48:01 zecke: don't see anything much intresting there for me Dec 29 07:48:06 problem: when building a kernel image i get error with bluetooth modules: the following files were installed but not shipped in any package: bluetooth.ko, rfcomm.ko, .... ; any hints? Dec 29 07:48:37 mithro: fair enough OTR, ZFS are interesting to me Dec 29 07:50:24 zecke: did you register for a talk at FOSDEM yet? Dec 29 07:50:34 * koen just sent a proposal for an OE talk Dec 29 07:50:51 * lrg|home sent a proposal for an audio talk Dec 29 07:50:58 koen: No, I hope that mickeyl arranges something :} Dec 29 07:51:46 when is FOSDEM? Dec 29 07:52:08 25/26 feb Dec 29 07:52:56 hrm.... Dec 29 07:53:14 it's in Amsterdam right? Dec 29 07:53:30 brussels, afair Dec 29 07:53:57 www.fosdem.org Dec 29 07:54:31 is there any archive of the mailing list or the irc channel available? Dec 29 07:54:50 ~logs Dec 29 07:54:53 apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org// where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/.html.gz, or updated "nightly" Dec 29 07:55:00 and http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/ Dec 29 07:55:27 thx koen Dec 29 07:55:49 i would really like to go to FOSDEM but the timing/location is inconvient :/ Dec 29 07:57:56 do you have a list of people who are going? Dec 29 08:02:55 mithro: zecke, mickeyl, philippe and me Dec 29 08:03:00 that's the list thusfar Dec 29 08:03:09 florian will probably attend too Dec 29 08:03:20 and I suspect nokia will be there as well Dec 29 08:04:15 * RP is likely to be going (last I heard anyway) Dec 29 08:09:27 koen: can mail.app do nntp with some plugin? Dec 29 08:10:37 zecke: not afaik, but versiontracker.com might know Dec 29 08:23:16 * lrg|home is also likely to be going Dec 29 08:24:42 for asoc? Dec 29 08:25:01 koen: yes and to mingle Dec 29 08:25:18 koen: I'm due RP a beer or 2 :) Dec 29 08:25:49 the beer is excellent in .be Dec 29 08:25:59 ask mickey|working :) Dec 29 08:26:55 excellent, in fact I'll be taking my company credit card and have been encouraged to use it. I could use it for drinks for oe hackers :) Dec 29 08:27:00 sounds good :) Dec 29 08:27:21 lrg|home: And that sounds even better :) Dec 29 08:27:49 I should ask mallum about a company credit card :) Dec 29 08:28:03 RP: looks like the first couple of rounds are on me then :) Dec 29 08:28:12 is mallum coming as well? Dec 29 08:28:17 RP: yes, they are a good thing. :) Dec 29 08:28:46 Koen|770: Its likely. Most of OH could end up going... Dec 29 08:29:55 cool Dec 29 08:32:56 RP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/attachment.cgi?id=435 that patch is old? Dec 29 08:35:37 stupid me Dec 29 08:43:14 what's the oe-policy on config (and init.d) files? e.g. mpd does neither contain an init-script nor an reasonable mpd.conf - so does it hurt if i'd add one? Dec 29 08:43:59 i'd even go further an add platform-specific config-default. good/bad? Dec 29 08:44:29 mgoebl: see openssh for an example Dec 29 08:54:16 koen: in my local repo i have: SRC_URI_append_nslu2 =" file://lircd.init_nslu2" Dec 29 08:54:22 koen: do_install_append_nslu2() { install ${WORKDIR}/lircd.conf_nslu2 ${D}${sysconfdir}/lircd.conf " } Dec 29 08:54:40 re Dec 29 08:55:12 it's very tempting to pop over to FOSDEM Dec 29 08:56:05 koen: i'm used to well documented example configs that come with the packages and make the runnable (in debian). is the also the way for oe? Dec 29 08:56:12 fosdem - one of places where I will not be Dec 29 08:56:18 s/the/them/ Dec 29 08:57:40 mgoebl: that's how we like it to be Dec 29 08:59:47 hrw|work: probably quicker just to mention the places where you _will_ be, rather than listing the ones where you won't. Dec 29 08:59:59 ;)) Dec 29 09:10:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * refeec18d... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_cvs.bb: gpe-calendar cvs: adjust SRC_URI Dec 29 09:19:22 is fosdem website down? Dec 29 09:21:14 the 2006 one is Dec 29 09:21:20 the 2005 one works Dec 29 09:21:38 url? Dec 29 09:22:05 http://www.fosdem.org/2005/index/dev_room_embedded.html Dec 29 09:22:46 fodesm.org is returning nothing to me Dec 29 09:34:33 * france is back (gone 12:08:16) Dec 29 09:41:22 afternoon Dec 29 09:42:16 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r1afdc843... 10/packages/flac/flac_1.1.0.bb: flac: change do_stage to use autotools_do_stage in 1.1.0 Dec 29 09:42:20 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r5c22e08d... 10/packages/audiofile/audiofile_0.2.6.bb: audiofile: change do_stage to use autotools_do_stage in 0.2.6 Dec 29 09:42:24 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rc6358e39... 10/packages/libogg/libogg_1.1.bb: libogg: change do_stage to use autotools_do_stage in 1.1 Dec 29 09:42:28 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rcb4bdb35... 10/packages/db/db_4.3.29.bb: db: change do_stage to use autotools_do_stage in db4 4.3.29 Dec 29 09:47:26 cu Dec 29 09:53:22 need RCONFLICTS to be both-way? i'd like to create libao-alsa_*.bb (default libao has no alsa support) and would prefer NOT to touch libao_*.bb. so I'd add RCONFLICTS = "libao" & RPROVIDES = "libao" && PROVIDES = "libao" Dec 29 10:11:05 <_law_|iBook> hi Dec 29 10:25:14 * france is away: Away Dec 29 10:29:46 could someone enlighten me a little on this? Dec 29 10:30:06 how do I specify a particular kernel version to build for a board? Dec 29 10:31:38 see conf/machine/h2200.conf Dec 29 10:32:27 that shows how to specify virtual/kernel Dec 29 10:33:05 which is handhelds-pxa-2.6, Dec 29 10:33:14 yes Dec 29 10:33:20 but there are many *.bb files starting with that under packages/linux Dec 29 10:33:41 which one gets used in a build? Dec 29 10:34:15 PREFERRED_VERSION or DEFAULT_PREFERENCE Dec 29 10:34:49 or most recent Dec 29 10:34:57 in absence if those it will use the highest version number Dec 29 10:35:25 koen: need RCONFLICTS to be both-way, e.g. in libao AND libao-alsa, or is RCONFLICTS="libao" in libao-alsa.bb enough to prevent a concurrent installation? Dec 29 10:35:42 So I would put PREFERRED_VERSION_virtual_kernel = in the machine.conf Dec 29 10:35:52 ? Dec 29 10:38:03 PREFERRED_VERSION_kernelname="2.6.9" Dec 29 10:38:09 mgoebl: no idea Dec 29 10:38:48 koen: thanks anyway Dec 29 10:39:36 Koen|770: thanks. I think I will just "hijack" the existing kernel for mainstone for now. Dec 29 10:39:54 BTW, it seems to be a pain to build monotone. Dec 29 10:40:20 is there a daily snapshot of openembedded repositories? Dec 29 10:40:38 especially the dev branch. Dec 29 10:40:41 there is Dec 29 10:41:00 ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE Dec 29 10:41:20 cool. Big thanks. Dec 29 10:41:31 and I use the static monotone from venge.net for debian Dec 29 10:42:07 I tried one too, (forgot where it comes from) Dec 29 10:42:20 it has some issues with name resolving. Dec 29 10:42:28 it is 0.23 I think. Dec 29 10:43:00 btw, it might be useful to mention this link on the get started wiki site. Dec 29 10:43:15 actually can I modify the wiki site? :) Dec 29 10:43:24 * jsun goes checking ... Dec 29 10:43:51 you should be able too Dec 29 10:51:55 * jsun just made his first hack to oe wiki site :) Dec 29 11:21:39 | + ipkg-cl -f /home/jsun/build/oe/build/tmp/work/bootstrap-image-1.0-r0/temp/ipkg.conf -o /home/jsun/build/oe/build/tmp/rootfs update Dec 29 11:21:39 | ipkg: Cannot create directory `/usr/lib/ipkg': Permission denied Dec 29 11:22:13 any pointers? (hmhm, Koen|770 :0) Dec 29 11:22:56 that's harmless Dec 29 11:23:19 oh? but the build failed actually ... Dec 29 11:23:37 let me check ... Dec 29 11:23:37 but not on that Dec 29 11:23:50 grep for ERROR Dec 29 11:25:54 interesting. Could this be the error? Dec 29 11:26:04 An error ocurred, return value: 4. Dec 29 11:26:04 Collected errors: Dec 29 11:26:04 Cannot find package task-bootstrap. Dec 29 11:26:04 Check the spelling or perhaps run 'ipkg update' Dec 29 11:26:20 looks like it Dec 29 11:26:54 can you decrypt it? :) Dec 29 11:28:21 the task-bootstrap meta package is missing Dec 29 11:29:12 bitbake -i -> rebuild task-bootstrap Dec 29 11:29:52 this is really neat. Dec 29 11:30:38 that seems to be fine, btw Dec 29 11:30:49 I am trying to do bootstrap-image again Dec 29 11:34:14 same error. Dec 29 11:34:32 but there is a problem with building bootstrap-image: Dec 29 11:34:35 NOTE: removing /home/jsun/build/oe/build/tmp/stamps/task-bootstrap-1.0-r25.* Dec 29 11:34:35 shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory Dec 29 11:34:35 NOTE: package task-bootstrap-1.0-r25: task do_clean: completed Dec 29 11:35:27 this seems harmless though. Dec 29 11:38:06 yeah Dec 29 11:39:17 could it be because I removed kernel build from mainstone.conf? Dec 29 11:39:36 I wanted to build a userland only for now. Dec 29 12:54:43 zecke: would crosscompiling KDE be easier now that KDE is switching to scons? Dec 29 12:56:36 scons? Dec 29 12:56:38 * reenoo_ runs Dec 29 12:57:25 a 'different' scons of course Dec 29 12:57:34 it wouldn't be kde if they didn't fork it Dec 29 12:57:59 oh, right. yeah. of course Dec 29 12:58:12 they are calling it 'bk' Dec 29 12:58:22 heh Dec 29 12:58:35 beware of larry's lawyers Dec 29 13:50:18 * france is back (gone 03:25:04) Dec 29 13:56:43 man is this network lame Dec 29 13:57:12 is this a new discovery> Dec 29 13:57:57 zecke: all those script kiddies Dec 29 14:00:57 ~lart freenode Dec 29 14:00:58 * ibot judo chops freenode Dec 29 14:13:47 ~lart intel's pxa27x Dec 29 14:13:47 * ibot keeps mailing intel's pxa27x free America Online CDs until he drowns Dec 29 14:42:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7f4a4f1f... 10/packages/gpe-what/gpe-what_cvs.bb: gpe-waht: add cvs version Dec 29 14:56:41 mickey|working: ping Dec 29 15:35:20 Hello all, newbie here. Is someone using OE for anything other than the usual/provided targets? Dec 29 15:35:44 sort off Dec 29 15:36:25 Can I just create a machine description for, say, a Coldfire processor board, and expect things to work? Dec 29 15:36:52 maybe Dec 29 15:36:58 worth a try Dec 29 15:47:51 How can I found out which toolchain bitbake is going to build? (i.e. which revisions of binutils, gcc etc)? Dec 29 15:47:55 found=find Dec 29 17:28:04 ,m Dec 29 17:28:18 hey Dec 29 17:28:30 treke: is there a way to get bugs.oe.org do https? Dec 29 17:29:12 sure Dec 29 17:29:38 I think I can do https on that machine Dec 29 17:30:28 only if it doesn't take too much effort :} Dec 29 17:30:37 hehe Dec 29 17:30:55 assuming I have the ports open ( pretty sure I do ) it's just a matter of fiddling with apache Dec 29 17:58:14 good nite Dec 29 21:26:52 are there any OE people at 22c3? Dec 29 22:52:34 hi Dec 29 22:53:39 i wanna vlc-gpe based on gtk(gpe). does anybody know how to set "PREFERRED_PROVIDERS" in local.conf ? Dec 30 02:10:43 good morning all Dec 30 02:27:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc2b1258a... 10/conf/distro/familiar-unstable.conf: Dec 30 02:27:36 familiar unstable: tweaks Dec 30 02:27:36 * set cvsdate to 'now' Dec 30 02:27:36 * build opie from cvs HEAD Dec 30 02:32:53 morning all Dec 30 02:33:49 hey lrg|home Dec 30 02:34:31 hi lrg Dec 30 02:59:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd024c478... 10/packages/pango/pango_1.10.2.bb: pango: update to 1.10.2 which should be a lot faster as its predecessors **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 30 03:00:01 2005