**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 16 02:59:58 2006 Jan 16 03:01:38 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf4af3ba6... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: added conditionals around the init code for machine specific modules Jan 16 03:01:39 CP|Dresden: when is AMD starting the "Free AMD' Multi Core CPU for Zecke" program? Jan 16 03:01:44 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4795257e... 10/conf/distro/slugos.conf: slugos.conf: defined libc-for-gcc to be glibc Jan 16 03:01:48 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r5ea9ec22... 10/ (15 files in 3 dirs): nas100d-kernel: subsumed into ixp4xx-kernel for LudeOS. Jan 16 03:01:50 I have read in the news about it, and it sounded appealing Jan 16 03:01:53 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rbc335043... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: add loft EEPROM MAC support in 2.6.15 Jan 16 03:18:01 morning... Jan 16 03:18:15 morning Jan 16 03:18:18 Ello Jan 16 03:20:37 could anyone taka e alook at this http://paste.plone.org/1875 and tell me what the problem can be? Jan 16 03:20:50 CP|Dresden: another one from Dresden... fine Jan 16 03:22:01 greentux: you are in Dresden? Jan 16 03:23:18 CP|Dresden: yes, you are at amd i see Jan 16 03:23:22 I am Jan 16 03:25:24 CP|Dresden: ok, i am in the city... small company. seurity issues Jan 16 03:25:46 CP|Dresden: what are you doing there? any au15xx related? Jan 16 03:26:16 Not specifically this time - but we do have people here that worked on the au1550/au1200 Jan 16 03:27:00 katossi_uni: check the packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb file, on my system all text is repeated twice, breaks bitbake Jan 16 03:27:26 greentux: of course, I'm just visiting - I normally am in Colorado, USA Jan 16 03:27:29 CP|Dresden: ok whe have some zaurus related jobs here.. and au15xx with mycable.de boxes Jan 16 03:33:53 rp:? Jan 16 03:37:05 greentux: hi Jan 16 03:37:23 RP: hi, do you have plans for visiting fosdem? Jan 16 03:37:39 greentux: Yes, I should be there Jan 16 03:38:08 RP: we are think about visiting... Jan 16 03:39:28 greentux: If you go, let me know and we can try and meet up... Jan 16 03:39:35 RP: any hotel recommendation? Jan 16 03:40:37 hi Jan 16 03:41:40 hrw: hi... are you going also to fosdem cinf? Jan 16 03:41:55 greentux: My boss is handling this and I don't know what he has in mind yet- a flat might be cheaper given the number of openedhand people who might be going... Jan 16 03:41:56 hi hrw Jan 16 03:42:24 greentux: no cash for it so no Jan 16 03:42:31 hmm I need a place to crash as well (fosdem) Jan 16 03:42:42 RP: ah yes. ok will see on the website... Jan 16 03:42:53 hrw: how much cash are you lacking? Jan 16 03:42:59 zecke_: are you in the company on wednesday afternoon? Jan 16 03:44:00 greentux: currently not, I have to focus on Uni stuff so my engagement at ROAD is currently almost halted Jan 16 03:44:02 zecke_: truely speaking I did not even looked how much I would need. I'm broken rather and need to collect cash for wedding things Jan 16 03:44:25 hrw: ah okay (I have my paypal account to plunder) Jan 16 03:44:27 zecke_: ok, right decision i think. :) Jan 16 03:46:03 I'm still in contact with them though Jan 16 03:46:14 greentux: are you going to visit the office? Jan 16 03:46:28 zecke_: yes Jan 16 03:46:32 wow.. new train was done.... EuroNight Warsaw-Poznan-Berlin-Frankfurt/Mein Jan 16 03:46:36 29EUR Jan 16 03:46:44 zecke_: with the boss... Jan 16 03:47:57 hrw: wow that is cheap Jan 16 03:48:15 hrw: your are going to mery anna (I'm so bad at names...) Jan 16 03:48:20 zecke_: 29EUR Warsaw<>Brussel was Jan 16 03:48:29 zecke_: Anna - 08.07.2005 Jan 16 03:54:21 goverment changed so train to europarlament is not needed.. Jan 16 03:55:38 '2h free internet access/month' - nice offer;) Jan 16 04:10:40 CoreDump|afk: does altboot support 2.6 c7x0 devices? Jan 16 04:22:00 RCONFLICTS_${PN} = is valid for a .bb that generates more than one package? Jan 16 04:22:24 XorA: It won't be applied to the subpackages Jan 16 04:22:50 RP: thats what I want, I messed up mplayer/mplayer-atty as the libpostproc's both hate mplayer :-) Jan 16 04:23:08 I got this error compiling gconf_dbus: checking for GCONF_DBUS... configure: error: You need either ORBit or D-BUS for IPC Jan 16 04:23:16 but dbus was compiled Jan 16 04:23:46 XorA: You need to add RCONFLICTS_subpackagename = as well then Jan 16 04:24:00 RP: the subpackages dont conflict Jan 16 04:24:44 XorA: Ah, you're ok then :) Jan 16 04:25:05 I misunderstood what you meant... Jan 16 04:25:06 RP: I pulled the libpostproc package out of mplayer-atty anyway, as its an unofficial version Jan 16 04:25:32 RP: but I accidently had the libpostproc.ipk that mplayer produces conflicting with mplayer-atty Jan 16 04:25:47 hrw: I am able to reproduce that dependency issue. I'll have to look into it further to find the bug in bitbake... Jan 16 04:28:22 RP: cool Jan 16 04:28:36 I'm now building 3.5.4-prefinal Jan 16 04:29:21 with bitbake r330 Jan 16 04:29:57 btw - I 'fixed' my wifi card yesterday Jan 16 04:30:32 hrw: Using a hammer? :) Jan 16 04:31:41 nearly - added some hardpaper into card cover to push antenna down Jan 16 04:31:58 now it connect on 1st attempt and I can get 730KB/s Jan 16 04:32:15 hrw: Excellent! How did you figure that out? Jan 16 04:33:03 RP: took cover out, touched antenna, pressed it and hold dugin 'wget home/plik (10M file)' and watched how it fly.. Jan 16 04:33:32 hrw: Sounds like there might be a loose connection somewhere... Jan 16 04:34:26 RP: yep.. but I dont want to fully open card and search for equipped stuff which will fix it correctly Jan 16 04:35:26 hrw: I can understand that. I guess if it fails completely, you now know what to look for though Jan 16 04:35:54 sure Jan 16 04:36:20 now I know how wifi can react.... fast Jan 16 04:36:38 hrw: doing any builds on .dev branch? Jan 16 04:37:04 XorA: now branch build. dev was last week Jan 16 04:37:19 XorA: my .dev build wait until RP will fix my bug Jan 16 04:38:05 hrw: oh, having problems with xserver-kdrive, and just wondered if it was local only Jan 16 04:38:21 XorA: update, rebuild pkgconfig Jan 16 04:38:33 sort of Jan 16 04:39:03 hrw: is there a bwowser for opie recommended? the konq has bugs. ugly bugs Jan 16 04:39:18 greentux: we have only konq/e Jan 16 04:39:30 hrw: mmmh Jan 16 04:39:44 greentux: can you code? Jan 16 04:39:57 when I do build on ewi I know what I can miss.. hmm.. how that kind of machine behave as workstation... Jan 16 04:39:58 XorA: no. sorry. Jan 16 04:40:24 greentux: pity, a good project for opie would be to wrap links in an opie wrapper, it makes a nice PDA browser on X11 Jan 16 04:40:28 greentux: and on fb Jan 16 04:40:29 XorA: we can fix some bugs... but konq/e is unmaintained Jan 16 04:40:59 XorA: or make opie browser based on khtml/webcore Jan 16 04:41:28 hrw: longer term that would be cool, but I suspect links could be wrapped by a Qt coder in time for 3.5.4 Jan 16 04:41:42 hrw: Unfortuneately C++ qt stylee is beyond me Jan 16 04:42:37 that reminds me that opie-notes needs work. Jan 16 04:43:48 morning all Jan 16 04:43:53 hi liam Jan 16 04:43:58 hi liam Jan 16 04:45:00 RP: I've now got the tosa (with the sharp firmware) Jan 16 04:45:10 hrw: rebuilding pkgconfig doesnt help Jan 16 04:45:15 someone remember how much 2.4 platforms we have with PCI support? Jan 16 04:45:37 hi liam Jan 16 04:45:37 XorA: koen did some work to get kdrive building iirc Jan 16 04:46:05 lrg|home: Excellent. I suggest decontaminating it at once ;-) Jan 16 04:46:53 RP: aggreed :) Jan 16 04:47:19 ~hail bitbake shell Jan 16 04:47:25 * ibot bows down to bitbake shell and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jan 16 04:47:58 hrw: no viewmtn to see what he did though :0-( Jan 16 04:50:01 ewi works now Jan 16 04:51:13 hrw: how difficult is it to use the latest konq/e snapshot? should we try or is it impossible :) ? Jan 16 04:51:35 greentux: we use last qt2 based one Jan 16 04:52:02 hrw: ok i see th eproblem. Jan 16 04:52:19 hrw: http://oe.pastebin.com/508015 Jan 16 04:52:48 XorA: LDFLAGS need more libs Jan 16 04:52:49 hrw: using of qt3 is a bunch of work... Jan 16 04:53:03 hrw: I guess that, I wonder why it suddenly changed Jan 16 04:53:52 XorA: Revision: 66afcbdfde8b0f501813085fa469f8b04fe7268e Jan 16 04:53:56 XorA: in branch Jan 16 04:55:45 hrw: are there any plans for upgrading qt? Jan 16 04:57:59 to qt4/x11 but lack develtime Jan 16 04:59:32 hrw: qt4 has x11 support? Jan 16 05:00:08 greentux: each qt has x11 support Jan 16 05:00:29 hrw: but not the one used in opie... Jan 16 05:01:18 greentux: each qt version has x11 support - qt2/x11 qt2/e, qt3/x11 qt3/e, qt4/x11 qt4/e Jan 16 05:01:38 hrw: ok, so we have no xserver on opie... understand. Jan 16 05:02:11 <[lala]> hrw: i think the question was if qt/e has x11 support :) Jan 16 05:03:08 no, qt/embedded doesn't have x11 support. Jan 16 05:03:30 greentux: x/qt is rootless xserver for qt/e Jan 16 05:05:17 hrw: hey thats we need. looks good Jan 16 05:05:29 hi rwhitby Jan 16 05:06:07 hi hrw Jan 16 05:06:15 hrw: cheers for that Rev no Jan 16 05:07:49 <[lala]> hrw: have u already tried x/qt? Jan 16 05:08:12 CIA-4: ping Jan 16 05:08:15 [lala]: never Jan 16 05:12:20 hrw: genius, that fix should come back from branch to .dev Jan 16 05:13:27 two new 'bugs' are for mickeyl ;) Jan 16 05:14:18 time to read people complains about 3.5.4-rc and add fixes.. Jan 16 05:15:10 [lala]: x/qt needs some fixes for OZ version of Qte and for some assumptions made about fb, but it basically works Jan 16 05:19:33 NOTE: package ttf-dejavu-2.1-r0: task do_unpack: completed Jan 16 05:19:39 hm need update to 2.2 Jan 16 05:26:40 speaking about fonts and qt... Jan 16 05:26:51 ~curse trolltech for makeqpf Jan 16 05:26:55 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, trolltech for makeqpf ! Jan 16 05:27:54 hrw: heh heh, you will never get away from it until opie moves to qt4/x11 Jan 16 05:28:48 ~ewi Jan 16 05:28:52 somebody said ewi was ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Jan 16 05:29:07 is monotone alive on ewi today ? Jan 16 05:30:11 XorA: opie use ttf by default Jan 16 05:30:32 ade|desk: no - koen does not start it on machine init Jan 16 05:31:25 ah ok cheers Jan 16 05:38:24 170kbps upload kills.. Jan 16 05:38:36 ~lart you trolltech Jan 16 05:38:37 * ibot does a little 'dpkg -P you trolltech' action Jan 16 05:39:17 qpf fonts are great they say... too bad that they forget how much space it take Jan 16 05:56:47 lrg|home: are u @fosdem? Jan 16 05:58:57 greentux: yes Jan 16 06:00:24 lrg|home: ok, i hope also. then we can there do the borsoi transport. Jan 16 06:00:46 greentux: ok Jan 16 06:01:10 lrg|home: so u have found a hotel near the meeting? Jan 16 06:02:01 greentux: not yet, I was trying for the same hotel as RP, but it looks like all of OH will be in a flat. Jan 16 06:02:20 greentux: I'll probably book something later this week Jan 16 06:02:29 lrg|home: is there a speakers hotel? Jan 16 06:03:02 greentux: I don't know, I've submitted an abstract but not been confirmed as speaking Jan 16 06:03:26 greentux: asoc maybe too specific or narrow for FOSDEM audience Jan 16 06:04:00 greentux: I'll let you know where I book. Jan 16 06:06:15 lrg|home: mmmh ok. fine :) Jan 16 06:15:22 <[lala]> is mt on ewi down? Jan 16 06:15:28 [lala]: yes Jan 16 06:15:32 koen|sleep: wakeup Jan 16 06:16:35 have a nice weekend at fosdem - I just checked when exactly it will be and now I know that I can not go definitly - important meeting locally. Jan 16 06:17:17 <[lala]> hrw: and a working mirror would be? dominion? Jan 16 06:18:03 vanille Jan 16 06:18:18 or none Jan 16 06:19:57 so who is going to FOSDEM? Jan 16 06:20:12 * lrg|home is going to FOSDEM Jan 16 06:20:42 greentux: I think they normally put the speakers in the Novotel. Jan 16 06:21:59 pb_: ah tnx... Jan 16 06:22:16 lrg|home: novotel? Jan 16 06:23:21 greentux: ok, looking at website now Jan 16 06:24:53 greentux: looks nice, I'll try and book it soon Jan 16 06:25:08 lrg|home: same for [lala] and me... Jan 16 06:25:28 greentux: cool, probably same for Dirk Jan 16 06:25:50 greentux: (iirc, the Tour Noire one; there are at least two other novotels in Brussels) Jan 16 06:25:57 hmm, is monotone.vanille out of action again? Jan 16 06:26:37 pb_: yes saw it on the fosdem site Jan 16 06:26:54 pb_: are you going ? Jan 16 06:27:20 lrg|home: not sure, depends on how many other gpe-type folk will be there. Jan 16 06:28:15 lunchtime now, bbiab Jan 16 06:35:44 <[lala]> i can not connect to vanille either Jan 16 06:35:58 <[lala]> says connecting and nothing happens Jan 16 06:51:15 same here Jan 16 06:51:33 anyone trying to compile a module that is external to a 2.6.xx tree? Jan 16 06:52:33 koobla: I did it yesterday with hostap-modules 0.3.9 Jan 16 06:52:49 ok - i am trying to port peak can drivers Jan 16 06:52:58 giving me slight headaches Jan 16 06:53:17 it won't find the kernel includes while compiling (!) Jan 16 06:53:18 any info about non-official fosdem accomodation? Jan 16 06:58:14 ah, hrw, did you try a kbuild-based module lately? Jan 16 06:59:00 koobla: no Jan 16 06:59:15 ok Jan 16 07:02:24 hi Jan 16 07:02:27 Ahhh :)) now I got it -- arch stuff is moving from ppc to powerpc in 2.6.15, thats why... Jan 16 07:02:39 dreambox? Jan 16 07:02:59 no, a custom ppc board for industrial control Jan 16 07:03:17 need to build can, spi and other busses Jan 16 07:03:24 I get this error: checking for GCONF_DBUS... configure: error: You need either ORBit or D-BUS for IPC Jan 16 07:03:40 while compiling gconf_dbus Jan 16 07:04:00 it says it needs dbus, but it's already there, any idea? Jan 16 07:07:02 lrg|home, greentux: Looks like OH will be in a hotel afterall. Not sure which one yet though... Jan 16 07:07:33 RP: ah, were all looking at the novotel. lloks nice. Jan 16 07:07:40 looks Jan 16 07:09:30 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5b4b332f... 10/packages/linux-hotplug/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jan 16 07:09:30 linux-hotplug 20040920: added patch which remove message about lack of PCI events Jan 16 07:09:30 - added as OpenZaurus specific now - I don't know how much machines Jan 16 07:09:30 with 2.4 and PCI exist in OE world. Jan 16 07:09:30 taken from .dev Jan 16 07:09:34 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r8bcac21a... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Jan 16 07:09:35 ixp4xx-kernel: fix boot setup parameters in 2.6.15 Jan 16 07:09:35 - there is now a default machine-specific command line and an override Jan 16 07:09:36 for the memory config to provide a useable default per-machine. Jan 16 07:09:40 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r9055433c... 10/packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb: gconf-dbus_svn.bb : Remove the repeated data in the .bb file, as approved by florian. Jan 16 07:09:44 03xora 07org.oe.dev * re246d7fc... 10/packages/sylpheed/sylpheed_1.9.12.bb: Jan 16 07:09:45 sylpheed_1.9.12.bb : fix hard coded -I/usr/include that happens Jan 16 07:09:47 Added to EXTRA_OECONF --includedir=${STAGING_INCDIR} as otherwise Jan 16 07:09:49 I end up with a -I/usr/include which breaks building on my system Jan 16 07:09:51 as it trys to get FD_* macros from files in /usr/include and not Jan 16 07:09:53 the arm compatible ones. Jan 16 07:09:54 morning Jan 16 07:09:55 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r1dabfc31... 10/packages/mplayer/ (mplayer-atty_1.1.5.bb mplayer_1.0pre7.bb): Jan 16 07:09:57 mplayer_1.0pre7.bb, mplayer-atty_1.1.5.bb : small changes to packaging Jan 16 07:09:59 Remove the libpostproc package produced by mplayer-atty as this is an Jan 16 07:10:01 * RP notes koen has poked a server :) Jan 16 07:10:02 unnofficial mplayer version. Jan 16 07:10:03 Fix the RCONFLICTS so only mplayer/mplayer-atty conflict, not libpostproc Jan 16 07:10:05 as well. Jan 16 07:10:06 morning chouimat koen Jan 16 07:10:08 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r8752c2bf... 10/packages/mplayer/mplayer-atty_1.1.4.bb: mplayer-atty_1.1.4.bb : delete old version. Jan 16 07:10:10 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf44050a3... 10/packages/ipkg-utils/ (6 files): Jan 16 07:10:12 RP: ok... we try the lrg novotel :) Jan 16 07:10:12 ipkg-utils(-native), ipkg-link: fixed SRCDATE to 20050404 Jan 16 07:10:14 Last change in CVS was 20050330 but OpenZaurus 3.5.3 used 20050403 CVSDATE Jan 16 07:10:16 and we need to keep upgrades possible. Jan 16 07:10:18 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r4aff7df6... 10/packages/linux-hotplug/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jan 16 07:10:20 linux-hotplug 20040920: added patch which remove message about lack of PCI events Jan 16 07:10:22 - added as OpenZaurus specific now - I don't know how much machines Jan 16 07:10:24 with 2.4 and PCI exist in OE world. Jan 16 07:10:56 hey hrw & RP Jan 16 07:11:10 RP: any chance you will be in london in february? Jan 16 07:11:59 koen: Always a chance. It depends if mallum wants to see me :) Jan 16 07:12:18 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r55baaf02... 10/packages/sylpheed/ (files/Makefile-am.patch sylpheed_1.9.12.bb): Jan 16 07:12:18 sylpheed_1.9.12.bb : Proper fix for the /usr/include problem, this time Jan 16 07:12:18 patched out the bug in Makefile.am Jan 16 07:12:36 I'll be in london on 10-13 feb, so I thought I could meet up with mallum and other people for some drinks Jan 16 07:12:57 koen: trust you to be there just before valentines :-) Jan 16 07:14:10 koen: I doubt I'll be in London that close to FOSDEM to be honest. I'd like to meet you though :) Jan 16 07:15:02 I'll also be at fosdem by the looks of it Jan 16 07:15:36 talking abnout how flash is writable and rom isn't ;) Jan 16 07:15:43 ~stab gprs lag Jan 16 07:15:47 * ibot runs at gprs lag with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Jan 16 07:16:23 You should see the lag I'm seeing here. My ISP has just been taken over. Network latency has trebled :-( Jan 16 07:16:43 RP: which ISP so we can avoid :-) Jan 16 07:16:44 RP: ISP was and now ?? Jan 16 07:17:00 Freedom 2 Surf, now Pipex Jan 16 07:17:11 f2s were really good :-/ Jan 16 07:17:41 metronet were good until they got taken ver Jan 16 07:17:59 RP: Im with pipex, not had a problem until my current house which is too far from exchange Jan 16 07:18:29 XorA: I suspect Pipex is just throwing the ex f2s customers to the dogs :-( Jan 16 07:19:02 but I'll avoid Pipex in the future as their technical support has been none existant... Jan 16 07:19:20 They're just ignoing all the complaints from f2s customers... Jan 16 07:19:50 XorA: try living in the middle of nowhere, but i can see my exchange, its on the horizon many many miles away, ain't flat land crap :( Jan 16 07:19:51 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r40dd65ee... 10/packages/libcontactsdb/libcontactsdb_cvs.bb: Jan 16 07:19:52 libcontactsdb_cvs.bb : add DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" as the cvs version Jan 16 07:19:52 doesnt build, but overrides the 0.1 version which does. Jan 16 07:20:16 ade|desk: I am 5km from mine, I can see it across valley Jan 16 07:20:36 RP: I agree on technical support, last year they just nose dived into Indian Call Center hell Jan 16 07:21:03 you guys have wireless isp? Jan 16 07:21:15 * RP wishes he wasn't tied into a years contract :-( Jan 16 07:21:28 my isp seems to only have one guy answering calls sales and tech in sheffield, might as well be in india Jan 16 07:22:00 hrw: Not wireless, no. Jan 16 07:22:35 RP: they have them in wales and north norfolk where BT can't be arsed Jan 16 07:23:07 koen: is it ok to bring your fix for xserver-kdrive in branch into dev? Jan 16 07:23:14 lrg|home, greentux: Looks like we're going for the novotel as well :) Jan 16 07:23:26 ade|desk: That figures... Jan 16 07:23:34 RP: excellent. drinks on me :) Jan 16 07:23:42 XorA: if it beraks in .dev, yues Jan 16 07:23:50 lrg|home: did the device arrive yet? Jan 16 07:23:52 a better idea would be to update pkgconfig to 0.20 Jan 16 07:24:06 0.20 should have some crosscompiling tweaks Jan 16 07:24:07 koen: which does not survive a autoreconf Jan 16 07:24:30 zecke: yes thanks, this morning. The postie put it through the catflap. Jan 16 07:24:41 *puh* Jan 16 07:24:42 zecke: I now need to update the wiki Jan 16 07:24:44 RP: fine... Jan 16 07:25:11 lrg|home: my gal was an exchange in yorkshire and I had 90% packet loss Jan 16 07:25:39 XorA: if hrw agrees you can switch oz-unstabvle to gpe 2.8 as well Jan 16 07:25:51 XorA: feel free Jan 16 07:26:02 zecke: mail isn't very reliable/fast in the UK atm :( Jan 16 07:26:37 gosh she was an exchange student... doing too many things at once ATM Jan 16 07:26:41 lrg|home: ah now we have other than Royal Mail, things will improve *cough* Jan 16 07:26:54 lrg|home: 'Pat the postman' found better job? Jan 16 07:27:07 hrw: koen thats the last of my fixes to make an image build with gpe 2.8 Jan 16 07:27:10 lrg|home: have fun with the device, talk to mickeyl if you don't want/need it anymore Jan 16 07:27:17 hrw: I will commit the change to openzaurs-unstable now Jan 16 07:27:20 ade|desk: hopefully :) Jan 16 07:27:37 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rba38bd62... 10/packages/xserver/xserver-kdrive_20050207.bb: Jan 16 07:27:38 xserver-kdrive-20050207.bb : bring compile fix from .oz354fam083 branch into Jan 16 07:27:38 the .dev branch as its needed there as well. Jan 16 07:27:49 XorA: thanks Jan 16 07:27:52 hrw: ah, you mean Postman Pat and his black and white cat. classic kids TV ;-) Jan 16 07:27:54 who except Dirk and mickeyl has own tosa in oe team? Jan 16 07:28:06 lrg|home: i think that royal mail still does the last mile though :( Jan 16 07:28:29 lrg|home: classic but good Jan 16 07:29:13 heh.. I'm getting tired of those ;penis enlargement; mails.. but adding bogofilter as default to kmail kills it nearly... Jan 16 07:29:17 zecke: Thanks, Dirk has sent me apatch so I've only got a few issues to sort out. Hopefully, I'll be able to send it back in Feb (or give it to someone at FOSDEM) Jan 16 07:29:30 ~lart kmail for being one-thread app Jan 16 07:29:31 * ibot gives kmail an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending kmail to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple for being one-thread app Jan 16 07:29:31 * koen gets back to work Jan 16 07:30:44 postman pat has changed lately, they've gone multi culture kids tv, for a yorkshire village, there is quite a diverse and widespread spectrum of society Jan 16 07:31:08 ade|desk: Have you ever seen Balamory? Jan 16 07:31:41 XorA: thankfully no Jan 16 07:31:47 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r11e32f6f... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-unstable.conf: openzaurus-unstable.conf : Change GPE version to 2.8 Jan 16 07:32:05 ade|desk: for a small town on a scottish island, Im pretty sure there is no scottish kids ever in an episode :-) Jan 16 07:32:07 ade|desk: Have you been to a Yorkshire village recently? Last time I was in one, the bar staff were from Poland, Latvia and Lithuania :) Jan 16 07:32:30 RP: lol Jan 16 07:32:38 XorA: how true Jan 16 07:33:46 now to work out why orbit2-native doesnt compile anymore Jan 16 07:34:04 RP: atleast I could go in and tell 'jedno piwo proszÄ™' :) Jan 16 07:34:05 RP: its been a while since i went into a pub in london and found any bar staff that speak english, south african is the closest Jan 16 07:36:59 I thought all bar/restaurant staff in the UK came from Australia Jan 16 07:37:21 certainly feels like it in Edin Jan 16 07:37:43 hrw: Thankfully ordering beer via sign langauge is quite easy :) Jan 16 07:37:51 a few years ago, the backpacking massive from oz yes, now its the south africans Jan 16 07:38:10 i just point at the guinness sign ;) Jan 16 07:38:12 RP: sure Jan 16 07:39:34 hmm. I gave up on opie-pim api for now. Jan 16 07:41:01 anyone recognise this error and have a fix off top of head? configure.in:124: error: possibly undefined macro: PKG_CONFIG_MIN_VERSION Jan 16 07:41:22 pkgconfig m4 too old? Jan 16 07:42:02 hrw: we havent gone backwards in .dev with pkgconfig versions though Jan 16 07:42:11 hrw: unless I missed a change somewhere Jan 16 07:42:42 florian updated pkgconfig.m4 some time ago Jan 16 07:44:37 opie-pm will get patched. Jan 16 07:45:05 hrw: can you pull that mplayer revision into the branch, want me to add it to #350? Jan 16 07:45:32 add to #350 Jan 16 07:45:54 I'm now working on fixing some games Jan 16 07:48:27 XorA: we would need to discuss about kind of 'acked by NICK' to allow package maintainers to update their stuff in branch Jan 16 07:49:01 hrw: Im happy to work through #350, the idea makes sense for me Jan 16 07:52:57 re Jan 16 07:55:32 <_law_> i cant build quilt-native is nogun.org down? Jan 16 08:21:54 <_law_> same problem with gnu-config-native :-( Jan 16 08:26:44 how to check which exactly revs are going to be pushed? Jan 16 08:26:58 monotone said 24 revs for branch... I have 2 Jan 16 08:33:52 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rff723ed5... 10/packages/ (12 files in 2 dirs): dejavu font: updated to 2.2 in both formats: TrueType and QPF Jan 16 08:33:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r36b037a4... 10/packages/opie-packagemanager/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jan 16 08:33:57 opie-packagemanager: added backport from CVS of two new config options Jan 16 08:33:57 - "Force resursive" for -recursive ipkg option Jan 16 08:33:57 - "Verbose fetch" for -verbose_wget ipkg option Jan 16 08:37:45 XorA: I don't think so. Never tested it with a 2.6 kernel Jan 16 08:38:07 hi Jan 16 08:40:10 hi CoreDump|home Jan 16 08:40:27 CoreDump|home: cheers for the answer Jan 16 08:41:27 np =) Normal booting might just work, however, all the fancy stuff like SD / CF / NFS will not Jan 16 08:41:45 When I get my release out I'll have a go at Akita 2.6 Jan 16 08:47:23 Is there a way to figure out which kernel a .bb is being compiled for? I'm trying to compile a module, but I need to know the kernelversion. Jan 16 08:51:46 <_law_> any ideas? http://pastebin.com/508253 Jan 16 08:55:25 ~lart the one who 'maintain' libmimedir Jan 16 08:55:26 * ibot takes out the one who 'maintain' libmimedir with the trash Jan 16 08:56:09 NAiL: MAJOR_KERNEL_VERSION give 2.4/2.6 KERNEL_VERSION give 2.6.15-umbaumba3-tymtyrymtym14 Jan 16 08:56:24 hrw: thanks :-D Jan 16 08:57:15 phear the "umbaumba" releas Jan 16 08:57:48 CoreDump|home: there are rumours that Angstrom first release will be codenamed 'umbaumba' Jan 16 08:57:57 is there any reason the nfsd kernel module was deactivated for the collie kernel? Jan 16 08:57:59 Note that Zaurus 2.6 kernels might soon have arm kexec Jan 16 08:58:16 hrw: I thought that was your secret version of OE with the working konq/e you dont let mortals have :-) Jan 16 08:58:24 hrw: really? heh =) Does it have any meaning besides sounding funny? Jan 16 08:58:48 RP: how about FUSE ? Jan 16 08:58:49 CoreDump|home: not in Polish Jan 16 08:58:59 and not in german either Jan 16 08:59:43 just makes me think, Umbongo Umbongo they drink it in the COngo Jan 16 08:59:54 ade|desk: If someone wanted to add the patch set they could. I'm not doing it though... Jan 16 09:01:40 RP: does that on days we are really depressed let us boot the sharp kernel :-) Jan 16 09:01:46 fuse was not added into mainline kernel? Jan 16 09:02:17 XorA: Or any other kernel... Jan 16 09:02:22 XorA: you can boot sharp kernel even without kexec - batery out d+b and batery on Jan 16 09:02:33 hrw: it could well have been. I haven't been paying attention :) Jan 16 09:02:55 ade|desk, hrw: If it has, enabling it should be easy Jan 16 09:03:19 its just changing the def-config to allow module for FUSE Jan 16 09:03:20 <_law_> there is an gnu-config (config_savannah.gnu.org__20050701.tar.gz) in my sources dir, why OE wants to get an new one? Jan 16 09:04:12 ade|desk:I'll try and remember to enable it if people want it. Remind me when I frget ;-) Jan 16 09:04:27 sure np Jan 16 09:05:46 ade|desk: or add it to defconfig and send patch to RP Jan 16 09:10:45 XorA: you did not removed mplayer-atty-1.1.4 dir.... Jan 16 09:11:40 hrw: crapit, cheers for reminging me Jan 16 09:12:07 XorA: and next time add patch to #350 not info which revs.. I'm going though it now Jan 16 09:17:25 XorA: atty.jp is not working... Jan 16 09:17:41 RP: eep, since my last upgrade, my Z doesn't charge! Jan 16 09:17:50 http://atty.skr.jp/?Zaurus%2Fmplayer now Jan 16 09:18:16 hrw: bloomin people keep moving websites :-) Jan 16 09:23:19 anybody know how to show the dependencies via bitbake? Jan 16 09:23:36 bitbake -v Jan 16 09:24:14 easy enough (-; Jan 16 09:24:56 Luke-Jr: That isn't a bug report I can work with... Jan 16 09:37:31 law... bug #417 Jan 16 09:39:48 RP: not sure what else to say Jan 16 09:39:51 hrw: ? Jan 16 09:40:17 law_: you reminds me about it Jan 16 09:40:48 hrw: a :-) Jan 16 09:41:21 Luke-Jr: For starters which device. And how you know its not charging... Jan 16 09:41:48 C760 Jan 16 09:41:57 battery is dead for a few days ;) Jan 16 09:42:36 Luke-Jr: But it powers up when plugged in? Does the charging light come on? Jan 16 09:42:51 hello. setting up oe, i got the OE bzipped snap shot, renamed to oe.db. When i got to checkout using that i get " monotone: misuse: database schemas do not match: wanted 1509fd75019aebef5ac3da3a5edf1312393b70e9, got bd86f9a90b5d552f0be1fa9aee847ea0f317778b. try migrating database" Jan 16 09:43:06 tyz: upgrade to monotone 0.25 Jan 16 09:43:07 montone 0.24 req Jan 16 09:43:34 ahh okay thx Jan 16 09:44:14 RP: plugged in, everything looks normal Jan 16 09:45:30 Luke-Jr: and the device is left suspended? Jan 16 09:45:49 Luke-Jr: You have tried charging it more than once? Jan 16 09:46:21 yes Jan 16 09:46:23 to both Jan 16 09:46:28 the monotone servers will be synced again in 15 minutes Jan 16 09:46:49 okay, confusion... ctrlproxy doesn't build, so lets just take it out via a BBMASK - easy enough. Then, i get an early error that nothing provides it, yet nothing lists it in DEPENDS in the .bb files. where do i need to look? Thanks! Jan 16 09:47:22 koen: look at #568 if you can (libmimedir again) Jan 16 09:49:07 XorA: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.message/a336f is not quite right, as it will break the -dev packages, I 'solved' it with the gimp with some sed magic Jan 16 09:50:10 hrw: autotools_stage_all for libmimedir Jan 16 09:50:47 koen: thats not in branch... Jan 16 09:52:41 I added autotools_stage_all a few weeks ago Jan 16 09:53:20 koen: to 0.3.1 Jan 16 09:53:36 _cvs still has own do_stage() Jan 16 09:53:50 both has DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = 1 Jan 16 09:55:50 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * raeada295... 10/packages/ (12 files in 2 dirs): dejavu font: updated to 2.2 in both formats: TrueType and QPF Jan 16 09:55:55 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * red5e7827... 10/packages/opie-packagemanager/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jan 16 09:55:55 opie-packagemanager: added backport from CVS of two new config options Jan 16 09:55:55 - "Force resursive" for -recursive ipkg option Jan 16 09:55:55 - "Verbose fetch" for -verbose_wget ipkg option Jan 16 09:55:55 taken from .dev Jan 16 09:56:01 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9625acb7... 10/packages/mplayer/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Jan 16 09:56:03 mplayer-atty_1.1.4.bb : delete old version. Jan 16 09:56:06 taken from .dev Jan 16 09:56:07 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1ee7baeb... 10/packages/mplayer/ (mplayer-atty_1.1.5.bb mplayer_1.0pre7.bb): Jan 16 09:56:11 mplayer_1.0pre7.bb, mplayer-atty_1.1.5.bb : small changes to packaging Jan 16 09:56:12 Remove the libpostproc package produced by mplayer-atty as this is an Jan 16 09:56:14 unnofficial mplayer version. Jan 16 09:56:16 Fix the RCONFLICTS so only mplayer/mplayer-atty conflict, not libpostproc Jan 16 09:56:18 as well. Jan 16 09:56:20 taken from .dev Jan 16 09:56:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf31c9140... 10/conf/machine/collie.conf: Jan 16 09:56:24 collie.conf: added altboot to base system Jan 16 09:56:27 - this add possibility to: Jan 16 09:56:27 Franc hail Jan 16 09:56:28 - boot from SD, CF, NFS Jan 16 09:56:31 - drop into emergency shell Jan 16 09:56:32 France hail Jan 16 09:56:32 All those 'boot on SD' scripts/hacks should die now. Jan 16 09:56:34 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rae14c4df... 10/packages/bluez/bluez-utils-nodbus_2.24.bb: bluez-utils-nodbus: added 2.24 which someone forgot Jan 16 09:57:50 France did you get my mail ? Jan 16 09:59:51 koen: was refixed the proper way with help of pb Jan 16 10:02:47 koen: I am however totally stumped by pkgconfig problems Jan 16 10:03:26 * XorA needs to go catch train home Jan 16 10:05:56 ah, i get it. the "top level" dependencies are simply listed in the various .conf files. duh. Jan 16 10:07:49 gerwinin: I am reading it now, I spent some time with friends (3 day weekend in the USA) Jan 16 10:08:26 gerwinin: got the 2nd e-mail, .... :-D Jan 16 10:08:35 hello i make monotone pull and monotone update Jan 16 10:08:37 gerwinin: should be ready for u in a few minutes. Jan 16 10:08:38 monotone: moving dir MT/tmp/351 -> packages/boost Jan 16 10:08:38 monotone: moving file MT/tmp/352 -> packages/boost/boost-jam-native_3.1.11.bb Jan 16 10:08:38 monotone: misuse: rename target 'packages/boost/boost-jam-native_3.1.11.bb' already exists Jan 16 10:18:57 zecke: wiki page now updated wrt tosa Jan 16 10:19:48 Anyone else having trouble building tcl-8.4.11-r2? Jan 16 10:25:09 bb soon Jan 16 10:25:16 * france is away: Away Jan 16 10:26:14 I'm getting all kinds of breakage from its configure script... Jan 16 10:32:20 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r15542ca1... 10/packages/libcontactsdb/ (libcontactsdb_0.3.bb libcontactsdb_cvs.bb): libcontactsdb: Update to 0.3. Jan 16 10:32:27 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r3c2f828e... 10/packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.49.bb: gpe-bluetooth: Add version 0.49. Jan 16 10:32:31 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r191eb393... 10/packages/libgpelaunch/libgpelaunch_0.14.bb: libgpelaunch: Add 0.14 release. Jan 16 10:32:35 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rdf78dcfe... 10/packages/gpe-taskmanager/gpe-taskmanager_0.19.bb: gpe-taskmanager: Add version 0.19. Jan 16 10:32:39 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb5e355fc... 10/packages/gpe-mininet/gpe-mininet_0.6.bb: gpe-mininet: Add version 0.6. Jan 16 10:32:46 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r6430ac8e... 10/packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.5.bb: xserver-common: Add new release 1.5. Jan 16 10:32:51 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rd0f7b214... 10/packages/startup-monitor/startup-monitor_0.18-2.bb: startup-monitor: New package. Jan 16 10:32:54 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rfa2f4d33... 10/packages/mplayer/mplayer-atty-1.1.4/ (6 files): mplayer-atty-1.1.4 : remove forgotten directory Jan 16 10:33:02 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rb34de7d4... 10/packages/mplayer/mplayer-atty_1.1.5.bb: mplayer-atty_1.1.5.bb : Update the URL of HOMEPAGE Jan 16 10:44:37 Zecke I have given your e-mail adres to a guy who needed to know something about rt linux and soccer :) Jan 16 11:59:50 cu Jan 16 12:25:51 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r37095a40... 10/packages/devio/ (devio-native_1.2.bb devio_1.2.bb devio-native.inc devio.inc): Jan 16 12:25:52 devio: release 1.2 Jan 16 12:25:52 - this release moves the devio installation in OE to the /bin directory Jan 16 12:25:52 from /sbin Jan 16 13:27:13 evening Jan 16 13:27:37 * Philippe is back (gone 20:26:29) Jan 16 13:28:29 hey reenoo_ Philippe Jan 16 13:28:46 hello lrg|home Jan 16 13:29:54 Philippe: any news on fosdem wrt asoc audio talk ? Jan 16 13:30:04 I think you can assume you can come to Fosdem. When do you need official confirmation? Jan 16 13:30:45 We might have to drop one or two talks but I believe your talk is not one of them. Jan 16 13:31:00 Philippe: ehm, probably by the end of Jan Jan 16 13:31:37 Philippe: ah, I wasn't sure if the subject matter was too narrow or specific for the audience. Jan 16 13:32:08 lrg|home, no that's good. I actually have a collegue that is really interested in knowing what is going on there. Jan 16 13:32:26 Philippe: cool. Jan 16 13:33:08 Philippe: I'm also going out to Shanghai later this month to integrate it with a tier 1 manufacturers new chip Jan 16 13:35:55 lrg|home, sounds good Jan 16 13:36:14 Philippe: pun intended ;-) Jan 16 13:49:26 hey lrg|home Jan 16 13:50:08 hi reenoo_ Jan 16 14:12:13 lrg|home: I can confirm I'm in the Novotel for Fosdem Jan 16 14:13:34 RP: cool, I'm trying to book atm. It has to go through an admin person, so I'll hopefully know tomorrow Jan 16 14:13:49 I arrive on the Friday and leave on the Monday Jan 16 14:14:16 RP: I arrive on Thursday (meet dirk on Fri) and depart Monday. Jan 16 14:14:36 RP: how are you getting on with git and oe ? Jan 16 14:14:39 Is Dirk there for the weekend? Jan 16 14:14:46 I think so. Jan 16 14:15:11 ok. Hopefully we'll get to meet then... Jan 16 14:15:19 git and oe can get on ok... Jan 16 14:15:35 yes, I'm due you a berrel of beer ;) Jan 16 14:15:39 barrel Jan 16 14:16:07 I'm not too sure how my boss would view that ;-) Jan 16 14:16:14 but I'm sure we can work something out :) Jan 16 14:17:01 RP: reason I'm asking is that I'm getting my server signed off soon. It should have a fast connection and will have git installed. This could be used as a uk oe mirror. Jan 16 14:17:28 Ah, I understand what you mean about git now. I've no had a chance to setup the test server... Jan 16 14:17:43 I must get that done. Its about item 10 on my out of work hours todo list :) Jan 16 14:17:57 RP: np, although I could install any other scm for oe Jan 16 14:18:25 RP: It would be a shame to waste all that bandwidth ;) Jan 16 14:18:30 Another monotone server probably won't go amiss if we're still using it... Jan 16 14:18:52 RP: that's what I was thinking. Jan 16 14:19:34 RP: it would have quite good uptime and support, so it would probably make a good mirror Jan 16 14:19:39 I need to understand git a bit better. I'm sure it can do what we want faster than monotone but I admit its a rather raw scm. cognito is probably going to be better for most people from what I've heard Jan 16 14:20:06 lrg|home: It sounds like a very good idea :) Jan 16 14:21:57 The only problem with using git on the server would be that each user of it would need ssh access :-/ Jan 16 14:22:15 RP: how much of Zaurus stuff goes to 2.6.16? Jan 16 14:23:12 hre|gone: Not too much this time around, just a few misc fixes Jan 16 14:23:40 forgot to nick change Jan 16 14:23:57 hrw: The main missing features are ASoC and leds. Both are in the process of being submitted but will probably make 2.6.17 Jan 16 14:24:33 hrw: lrg|home will know more about what he plans to do with ASoC of course ;-) Jan 16 14:24:39 ;) Jan 16 14:25:24 do not try to use hostap-modules 0.3.9 with 2.6.15-git9... they work until card remove Jan 16 14:25:35 hrw: I'll hopefully have ASoC in alsa-kernel by end Jan. I've been a little delayed with support lately :( Jan 16 14:28:18 lrg|home: I'm not to upset with the progress. Working sound for the cxx0 and cxx00 makes me happy :) Jan 16 14:28:39 and the fact I know it will end up in mainline, just a question of time Jan 16 14:29:08 2.6 is nice for zaurus line... Jan 16 14:29:33 too bad that collie will stay on 2.4.18 ;( Jan 16 14:29:33 hrw: I'll keep that in mind. I think the 2.6 kernels are internal hostap only now really... Jan 16 14:29:39 poodle probably too Jan 16 14:29:42 RP: I've also got some developer docs to write for takashi, so I think January, will be busy for me Jan 16 14:30:43 hrw: There's no reason poodle can't change Jan 16 14:30:50 hrw: As for collie, who knows... Jan 16 14:31:22 lrg|home: My work todo list just got very busy as well. OE is looking to be an out of work time activity only for now Jan 16 14:31:24 RP: does anyone work on poodle? no. Jan 16 14:31:55 We need someone to tackle power management on poodle. Its an absolute nightmare and nobody will... Jan 16 14:32:14 RP: ah, does that mean you have more commercial stuff ? Jan 16 14:33:37 lrg|home: Something that needs more of my time has come up, yes Jan 16 14:33:57 RP: cool, glad to hear that. :) Jan 16 14:43:10 night all Jan 16 14:43:19 'night liam Jan 16 14:43:27 n8 lrg|home Jan 16 14:43:43 3.5.4 test images released to users Jan 16 14:44:52 hrw: I've never thought "n8" works... Jan 16 14:45:26 ... ;) Jan 16 14:45:48 8 = eight = ate (they're pronounced the same). mate can therefore be m8. night != nate :) Jan 16 14:46:05 but given the way text messaging has gone, who knows :) Jan 16 14:47:13 i got oops... Jan 16 14:49:32 hrw: oops :) Jan 16 14:51:07 how to kill Z: boot, insert my wifi card, hostap loaded, found firmware. then complain about lack of firmware.. eject card = oops.. insert card = hang ;) Jan 16 14:51:40 not good :-/ Jan 16 14:51:45 This was with pcmciautils? Jan 16 14:51:58 yep Jan 16 14:53:00 There's some issue in hostap then and it probably needs to be reported... Jan 16 14:53:18 I busy going around in circles with your dependency loop btw :) Jan 16 14:54:07 ;) Jan 16 14:54:18 which firmware in hostap? we had today some card insert/ejects and no hang Jan 16 14:54:30 greentux: 1.1.1/1.8.4 Jan 16 14:54:45 same here Jan 16 14:54:52 1.8.4 is wpa enabled Jan 16 14:55:32 1.7.4+ are wpa enabled Jan 16 14:56:27 yes. Jan 16 14:56:37 RP: git9 make Z a bit harder to power-on-to-boot and flash white screen before go. Jan 16 14:57:32 greetings ! Jan 16 14:57:52 hrw: Mine always has flashed a white screen at that point for me Jan 16 14:58:03 greentux: Note this is a different white screen to the one you see Jan 16 14:58:04 RP: few times? Jan 16 14:58:56 hrw: Something must have changed in the console code Jan 16 14:59:25 We might have to rethink some parts of w100fb then... Jan 16 14:59:26 RP: wihite screens ... hey @fosdem we can show you the screen. perhaps we can fix that with some vodkas Jan 16 15:00:39 re Jan 16 15:00:45 qm zecke Jan 16 15:00:59 some one of you in Eindhoven or Maastricht tomorrow? Jan 16 15:01:02 greentux: We might do, yes :) Jan 16 15:01:03 greentux: CE Europe way? 'some vodkas' :) Jan 16 15:01:10 hi zecke Jan 16 15:03:26 hrw: CE? Jan 16 15:03:59 central east Jan 16 15:04:07 Before i ask any question, i would like to introduce myself. My name is Stelios Koroneos, i am from Athens/Greece. Jan 16 15:04:15 hrw: yes, my wife is half russian :) Jan 16 15:04:17 ifaistos: nice to meet Jan 16 15:04:23 ifaistos: xairw Jan 16 15:04:43 :) Jan 16 15:04:51 :-) Jan 16 15:05:38 i am looking on different options availiable for an embedded linux build system Jan 16 15:05:53 #oe Jan 16 15:06:02 you're in the right place Jan 16 15:06:18 nice to hear that :) Jan 16 15:07:14 welcome ifaistos Jan 16 15:07:26 How do I update to HEAD? -rHEAD just says "no match for selection 'HEAD'" Jan 16 15:07:27 Currently we are working with Mini-Itx (EPIA) boards, broadcom MIPS (on Asus 500) and Xilinx based PPC Jan 16 15:08:32 we have all kind of "build systems" (aka scripts and stuff from here and there) Jan 16 15:08:33 DataBeaver: skip '-r' Jan 16 15:08:57 So just monotone update? Jan 16 15:09:09 yes Jan 16 15:09:19 ok Jan 16 15:09:24 and i am looking if there is something that can help to get things "clean up" a bit Jan 16 15:09:31 atleast I think it will work DataBeaver Jan 16 15:10:07 get a common build enviroment for all the platforms Jan 16 15:10:21 ifaistos: In theory, you can type things like "bitbake bootstrap-image" and bitbake/oe will generate a toolchain and then a complete filesystem for you Jan 16 15:12:17 are platform specific pathces handled by the recipies ? Jan 16 15:12:40 ifaistos: yes Jan 16 15:12:44 ifaistos: Yes, you have control at various levels Jan 16 15:12:53 ifaistos: platform, machine, distro specific Jan 16 15:13:45 * Philippe is away: visual contact - dreams Jan 16 15:14:40 in the docs it mentions that there is support for epiam x86 and wrt54 (Broadcom) Jan 16 15:14:54 has anyone had any experience/work with ppc ? Jan 16 15:15:21 ifaistos: .dreambox branch is for ppc based set-top-boxes iirc Jan 16 15:16:33 That works ok ! I have a couple of db's myself :)) Jan 16 15:16:53 ifaistos: I think people have used ppc but the ppc toolchains are ageing a little bit. Nothing a little bit of care wouldn't fix Jan 16 15:17:24 ifaistos: OE does sound pefect for the problem you've got Jan 16 15:17:51 exactly Jan 16 15:18:43 i am looking at the docs for a few days now, and i think i will give it a try during this week Jan 16 15:19:02 any "gotsas" for new developers ? Jan 16 15:19:14 x86 and broadcom for starters Jan 16 15:19:48 x86 use 2.6.11 iirc in OE so update probably will be needed but thats simple Jan 16 15:20:25 mipsel support is working quite good - I build some extra packages for my openwrt powered linksys Jan 16 15:20:58 mipsel/glibc is tested by meshcube guys which added it and maintain from time to time Jan 16 15:21:18 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r371d4704... 10/packages/minilite/minilite_0.50.bb: minilite: Add version 0.50. Jan 16 15:21:22 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rad95dcf7... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.69.bb: gpe-calendar: Add version 0.69. Jan 16 15:21:55 ifaistos: If you have problems, mention them here and hopefully someone can point you in the right direction Jan 16 15:22:36 Do you think i should start from the epia, x86 or mipsel ? Jan 16 15:23:16 epia is x86 for me.. and I would start from it Jan 16 15:25:34 my build machine is an amd 3200, with debian and/or ubuntu. i have seen that same packages are availiable Jan 16 15:25:44 should i use them or start from source ? Jan 16 15:26:07 start from GettingStarted wiki page Jan 16 15:26:42 i have been looking at it for a couple of days :) Jan 16 15:27:33 you need monotone 0.24/0.25, subversion, cvs, wget, gcc, python 2.3+, patch, make and few more listed Jan 16 15:28:17 Thanks guys !! Jan 16 15:28:35 ifaistos: be back when found problem Jan 16 15:28:50 and even without problems of course Jan 16 15:29:46 If things go well there is a bottle of Ouzo for the developers :)) Jan 16 15:30:57 each or one to rule them all? :] Jan 16 15:31:35 each ! Jan 16 15:32:00 hrw: http://sam.rpsys.net/bitbake-circular-r1.patch should fix your circular problems Jan 16 15:32:02 one is just enough for a single shot :) Jan 16 15:33:28 RP: will fetch it for ewi and look Jan 16 15:33:42 zecke: You might also want to look at the above and see if I've lost the plot :) Jan 16 15:34:32 thanks to all for the info ! Jan 16 15:34:52 bye Jan 16 15:34:58 ifaistos: Good luck - You'll hopefully be impressed :) Jan 16 15:36:29 RP: don't you want a RecursionGuard Object? Jan 16 15:37:56 RP: ++ you kill the strings that carry the semantic Jan 16 15:38:22 RP: -- the recursion is always tricky to handle, you add return somewhere and forget the decrementing Jan 16 15:51:27 opie-help-en/opie-help-en_cvs.bb returned status 1 sayingsvn: Commit failed (details follow):svn: '/home/zecke/scm_convert/svn_wc/packages/linux-input/files' is not under version control and is not part of the commit, yet its child '/home/zecke/scm_convert/svn_wc/packages/linux-input/files/snes232.patch' is part of the commit Jan 16 15:51:38 hmm monotone->svn is the most painful one Jan 16 15:54:26 zecke: I'm not familar with recursionGuard objects... Jan 16 15:54:48 zecke: Thankfully in this case all the increments and decrements are confined to one function... Jan 16 15:54:56 zecke: I'm open to a better way of doing this... Jan 16 15:55:09 RP: will you be around thirty more minutes? Jan 16 15:55:17 zecke: yes Jan 16 15:55:35 good I need to finish writing the analysis of the offline-min problem Jan 16 15:57:52 zecke: np. This can wait... Jan 16 15:59:01 RP: NOTE: package meta-opie-1.0: completed Jan 16 16:01:56 This patch isn't right. It would prevent us seeing two packages DEPENDing on each other... Jan 16 16:02:07 ok Jan 16 16:02:24 but it allowed me to find another bug Jan 16 16:02:50 :) Jan 16 16:03:33 What was the bug? Jan 16 16:04:03 opie-sshkeys rdepend on ssh which should be virtual probably but thats other story.. Jan 16 16:04:17 opie-sshkeys shoudl rather depend on ssh-agent Jan 16 16:06:39 Hmm. I see: ERROR: Nothing provides runtime dependency libsqlite-bin Jan 16 16:06:39 ERROR: No buildable providers for runtime opie-pimconverter Jan 16 16:07:12 we need the sqlite2 sqlite binary Jan 16 16:07:32 how do i start qpe starting in deamon mode? Jan 16 16:07:53 sorry, stop Jan 16 16:07:53 ! Jan 16 16:09:56 dan2003: /opt/QtPalmtop/bin/qpe -nodaemon is you need? Jan 16 16:10:17 thanks, that seems to do it ;) Jan 16 16:10:24 RP: debian.bbclass strikes back Jan 16 16:10:25 gd n8 Jan 16 16:10:40 debian sucks we need a ubuntu.bbclass ;) Jan 16 16:11:13 zecke: ubuntu sucks, we need g3nt00.bbclass Jan 16 16:11:31 pb_: good thinking! Jan 16 16:14:28 either we have a screwed monotone db or tailor's svn support needs some work Jan 16 16:15:08 hrw: Yes. That packages sounds like a binary that shouldn't be called that as a package anyway. See fontconfig for the fix... Jan 16 16:15:17 pb_: may I fuzz your linux ipv6 stack? Jan 16 16:15:38 I can't figure out a nice way to error on DEPENDS loops but not on RDEPENDS ones :-/ Jan 16 16:15:41 night all Jan 16 16:15:46 hrw: cya Jan 16 16:15:47 'night hrw Jan 16 16:16:15 zecke: of course Jan 16 16:16:48 pb_: well I don't want to oops your machine now, will do it later though :} Jan 16 16:16:54 heh Jan 16 16:17:46 pb_: 2006 will be the yearh of theLinux ipv6 exploits Jan 16 16:18:11 yeah, probably Jan 16 16:18:28 I guess you are safe on freebsd :-} Jan 16 16:19:26 I doubt that as well Jan 16 16:20:15 * zecke should try harder to find+publish his first exploit Jan 16 16:27:11 This circular DEPENDS/RDEPENDS business makes my brain hurt :-( Jan 16 16:27:48 yeah last cset and tailor is in a infinite loop :} Jan 16 16:28:59 zecke: doh Jan 16 16:29:32 451d8c0761e16d84691a529f9f26a9989e138fc6 Jan 16 16:31:31 885f0d1a464ff96243c264eb85939e9787f98 Jan 16 16:34:25 hopefully I will not dos koen's machine (going out of memory...) Jan 16 16:35:15 let's hope Jan 16 16:35:45 I guess you still have a few days to use mickey's machine before he gets back from his vacation. Jan 16 16:36:16 pb_: that is tempting... but I hope I will not give in Jan 16 16:36:25 luckily I'm on vacation for the next two days Jan 16 16:36:43 ah, very good Jan 16 16:36:47 have fun :-) Jan 16 16:37:34 * zecke will start over with the svn conversion Jan 16 17:03:18 France I still got some questions are you available ? Jan 16 17:10:14 'night all Jan 16 17:17:37 cya Jan 16 17:17:44 RP: ping Jan 16 17:20:15 RP: well I need to postpone applying the patch ;) Jan 16 17:20:17 good nite Jan 16 20:40:12 I deleted the opie-irc files from work and deploy/ipk, but when I 'bitbake opie-irc' it still doesn't actually build it. bitbake -f doesn't force it to build either, how can I force it to rebuild? Jan 16 20:43:29 rm -f tmp/stamps/opie-irc* Jan 16 20:44:12 ah, thanks Jan 16 21:09:59 even after deleting the stamps, it's using some kind of cache to recompile opie-irc Jan 16 21:10:10 I purposefully added syntax errors to the source, yet it still compiles cleanly Jan 16 21:11:26 oh, it stopped using cvs and started using the tarball :/ Jan 16 21:11:36 stupid mistake Jan 16 23:55:07 * emte loves obscure errors ... Jan 17 00:14:13 Is there some bitbake command to rebuild (if needed) all the packages I have previously built? Jan 17 00:28:55 rm -Rf tmp Jan 17 00:28:57 :) Jan 17 00:30:14 emte: NO! that loses old images/ipks Jan 17 00:32:15 Yeah, definitely not that Jan 17 00:33:07 well rebuilding would infer that the images and ipks would be invalid Jan 17 00:33:32 Not necessarily all. Jan 17 00:33:37 pfft, so archive them Jan 17 00:34:02 * emte shrugges Jan 17 00:34:03 and it could also mean that he just wants to rebuild Jan 17 00:34:13 in which case, the old ones would stick around until the new ones were ready Jan 17 00:34:22 ... Jan 17 00:34:45 why would you have net access to the sources in your compile directory ? Jan 17 00:34:46 maybe with optimized CFLAGS Jan 17 00:34:46 What I want is an easy way to rebuild all the packages which have been updated on the upstream side Jan 17 00:34:57 emte: ??? Jan 17 00:35:10 Luke-Jr in which case, the old ones would stick around until the new ones were ready Jan 17 00:35:13 emte: tmp/deploy isn't sources Jan 17 00:35:34 i am aware Jan 17 00:35:46 sources is also not normally stored in tmp/ Jan 17 00:35:56 and I'm talking about not-removing ipks when rebuilding Jan 17 00:35:59 Yes they are, in tmp/work Jan 17 00:36:03 its usually one directory up from build Jan 17 00:36:35 BTW, I think there might be a loophole in the GPL that makes distributing tarballs or compressed sources illegal =p Jan 17 00:36:47 Eh, why? Jan 17 00:36:53 since compressed files aren't the preferred form for editing Jan 17 00:37:10 and thus don't qualify for the GPL's definition of sources Jan 17 00:37:16 I could just find|sed|xargs the ipk directory to bitbake, but it would be nice if there was some easier way... Jan 17 00:37:34 Anyways, gotta go now, bus leaving in 7 minutes. Jan 17 00:38:18 DataBeaver, i hope you are aware that depending on upstream changes it may render most of your "current" stuff invalid Jan 17 00:39:50 even packages between snapshots of the main distros are rarly compatable Jan 17 00:40:41 is org.oe.dev still broken? Jan 17 00:40:53 * emte shrugges Jan 17 00:41:03 cant say i've any issues Jan 17 00:41:25 aside from a sysv problem Jan 17 00:41:42 eh, what's w/ the topic, then? Jan 17 00:42:06 Luke-Jr: I still can't build here Jan 17 00:42:07 regarding? Jan 17 00:42:27 emte: '... to avoid breakage' Jan 17 00:42:45 that has to do with meta structuring changes Jan 17 00:43:01 DEPENDS, RDEPENDS< USE, etc Jan 17 00:51:27 right... does it still apply? Jan 17 00:51:37 as far as i know Jan 17 00:52:11 i expect it will be removed and a message sent to the mailing list when it is done Jan 17 00:56:25 as per mailing list there are issues Jan 17 00:56:32 especially with meta-sdl Jan 17 00:56:50 er Jan 17 00:56:52 meta-sdk Jan 17 01:02:03 Luke-Jr, http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/current/5516.html Jan 17 01:03:26 anyway time for sleep while it crunches to the failure point Jan 17 01:03:40 we shall see if i fixed the issue ... Jan 17 01:04:12 no point in watching glibc compile for 1/2 an hour Jan 17 01:26:32 morning all Jan 17 01:38:04 re Jan 17 01:38:08 morning all Jan 17 01:38:12 morning hrw Jan 17 01:39:57 ewi need resetmonkey again? Jan 17 01:44:26 2.6.16-rc1 released. Jan 17 01:45:29 15 minutes ago anyway so not on mirrors yet Jan 17 01:45:57 4M bzipped.. big Jan 17 01:48:02 and it does not apply to my 2.6.15 tree.... Jan 17 01:51:35 heh.. forgot about swsusp2 Jan 17 01:54:44 morning Jan 17 01:55:21 hi XorA Jan 17 02:00:27 ~lart everyone who does -I$(includedir) in Makefile.am Jan 17 02:00:29 * ibot readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at everyone who does -I$(includedir) in Makefile.am Jan 17 02:19:12 ~lart pkgconfig that is in OE Jan 17 02:19:13 * ibot smacks pkgconfig that is in OE up side the head with a clue-by-4 Jan 17 02:25:26 re Jan 17 02:25:44 re? Jan 17 02:26:18 re as welcome back Jan 17 02:30:38 morning all Jan 17 02:31:27 hi Liam Jan 17 02:31:36 hi liam Jan 17 02:32:46 hi bluelightning Jan 17 02:32:57 hi hrw Jan 17 02:32:59 hi all Jan 17 02:35:34 time to hack opie-console again Jan 17 02:36:00 hrw: #include rxvt Jan 17 02:36:04 hrw: I'm glad someone is still working on opie Jan 17 02:36:11 hey people Jan 17 02:36:15 hi mithro Jan 17 02:36:18 bluelightning: I do some polish mainly Jan 17 02:36:33 mithro: are you coming to LCA? Jan 17 02:36:40 in fact, is anyone here going? Jan 17 02:38:20 * hrw does not goes to LCA or any that kind meeting this year Jan 17 02:38:32 bluebugs: sadly no, I'm in Europe at the moment Jan 17 02:38:43 s/ bluebugs / bluelightning / Jan 17 02:38:43 mithro meant: bluebugs: sadly no, I'm in Europe at the moment Jan 17 02:39:02 * mithro ponders ibot Jan 17 02:39:07 s/bluebugs/bluelightning/ Jan 17 02:39:09 mithro meant: bluelightning: sadly no, I'm in Europe at the moment Jan 17 02:39:26 who taught ibot about s/ ? Jan 17 02:41:51 heh Jan 17 02:41:53 ibot knows all Jan 17 02:41:55 and don't you forget it Jan 17 02:42:00 LOL Jan 17 02:42:01 ;) Jan 17 02:42:23 legendary Jan 17 02:42:24 ibot to cwana bestia jest Jan 17 02:42:36 wtf Jan 17 02:42:52 ha! I knowed that he (ibot) did not understand Polish ;) Jan 17 02:45:59 hrw: maybe he does and just chose not to respond? Jan 17 02:46:20 so bluelightning you going to LCA then? Jan 17 02:47:33 mithro: yeah, I figured it would be a shame not to seeing as it's in NZ this year Jan 17 02:47:35 even if it is at the other end of the country Jan 17 02:51:18 I like my fewliners in opie source Jan 17 02:52:28 bluelightning: http://home.hrw.one.pl/oe/diffs/20060117_opie-console-use-default-fixed.diff - what do you think as opie dev? Jan 17 02:53:10 hrw: I'm not really an opie dev... I can already see by looking at that patch that you know more than I do :) Jan 17 02:53:22 at this stage I've only sent in a few minor patches Jan 17 02:53:23 ;) Jan 17 02:53:50 I've done lots of testing though... which reminds me I have tons of things I'm supposed to be doing for Familiar Jan 17 02:53:56 bluelightning: most of my opie work are few minor/major patches. this one is polishing Jan 17 02:56:10 sometimes it is good to be sick for longer time then it is needed **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 17 02:59:58 2006