**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jan 20 02:59:58 2006 Jan 20 03:24:56 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8fe9e842... 10/packages/opie-ttf-support/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:24:56 opie-ttf-support: updated to 1.1 Jan 20 03:24:56 - this version generate line for 'fixed' font from first fixed width TrueType font Jan 20 03:24:56 - close #441 and #599 Jan 20 03:25:39 hrw|work: In branch, I suspect you need to change URI of libtiff, new patch is http://dl.maptools.org/dl/libtiff/old/ Jan 20 03:25:54 hrw|work: there is a newer version so they moved the old ones Jan 20 03:28:14 hrw|work: also, who is going to fill the source archive for 3.5.4 release? Jan 20 03:28:45 XorA: libtiff - add a patch to #350 Jan 20 03:28:58 XorA: the one who will build probably Jan 20 03:32:21 wb mickeyl Jan 20 03:32:50 hola! Jan 20 03:33:21 mickeyl: relaxing break? Jan 20 03:33:58 RP: indeed Jan 20 03:34:16 Lanzarote was great - as ever Jan 20 03:34:28 but 9 days are just not enough to get a real good tan Jan 20 03:34:57 :) Jan 20 03:34:59 RP: Is it decided whether you can make it to FOSDEM yet? Jan 20 03:35:40 I don't think I've seen much sunlight for 6 months and have the appropriate lack of colour :) Jan 20 03:35:59 mickeyl: Its all booked up. Most of OH will be in attendance! Jan 20 03:35:59 hehe Jan 20 03:36:17 RP: ah great! I'll handle my booking next week as well Jan 20 03:36:55 RP: I've seen you have done a lot work on .dev. Jan 20 03:37:00 * mickeyl need to catch up Jan 20 03:37:03 There appears to be quite a few #oe members going so it'll be interesting to meet people :) Jan 20 03:37:18 mickeyl: I've made the DEPENDS/RDEPENDS changes Jan 20 03:37:20 yeah, I'm looking forward to that Jan 20 03:37:31 mickeyl: Take a look at meta-opie ;-) Jan 20 03:39:24 aaah Jan 20 03:40:14 nice cleanups all over the place Jan 20 03:40:35 hail mickeyl Jan 20 03:40:54 Yes, BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS is no more and all kinds of other nice improvements Jan 20 03:40:57 hey pb_ Jan 20 03:45:31 <_law_> is there a way to clean the work dir like in bb like bitbake -b bla.bb -c compile -f Jan 20 03:49:14 hi mickeyl Jan 20 03:49:58 mickeyl: oz 3.5.4 is in testing phase - 43 testers with 50 machines - all machines covered Jan 20 03:51:16 _law_: -c clean? Jan 20 03:52:18 <_law_> RP -c clean removes the whole dir, is it possible on remove compiled files (like make clean)? Jan 20 03:52:38 hey marcin, how are things? Jan 20 03:52:48 _law_: cd into dir, do make clean Jan 20 03:53:03 mickeyl: I'm going to marry Ania in July Jan 20 03:53:12 <_law_> hrw|work, ok this should work thanks :-) Jan 20 03:53:17 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4f3dd283... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:53:17 poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix: added kernel for PXA255 poodle Jan 20 03:53:17 taken from .dev Jan 20 03:53:21 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r84dc799d... 10/packages/recode/recode-native_3.6.bb: Jan 20 03:53:21 recode: added native version - needed for fortune-mod - close #585 Jan 20 03:53:21 taken from .dev Jan 20 03:53:25 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5ae623a1... 10/packages/opie-ttf-support/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:53:26 opie-ttf-support: updated to 1.1 Jan 20 03:53:26 - this version generate line for 'fixed' font from first fixed width TrueType font Jan 20 03:53:28 - close #441 and #599 Jan 20 03:53:30 taken from .dev Jan 20 03:53:32 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9aa91991... 10/packages/fortune-mod/fortune-mod_1.99.1.bb: Jan 20 03:53:33 fortune-mod: added dependency on recode-native Jan 20 03:53:36 - fixed packaging - man pages goes to ${PN}-doc like they should Jan 20 03:53:38 taken from .dev Jan 20 03:53:42 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r420057b0... 10/packages/altboot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jan 20 03:53:45 altboot: update to same version as is in .dev Jan 20 03:53:47 - Fixed a typo preventing any NFS boots Jan 20 03:53:49 - Fixed a bug where altboot wouldn't prompt for the menu but do init 5 instead Jan 20 03:53:50 - Cosmetic changes (Thanks to andrewy@#openzaurus) Jan 20 03:53:53 - Fixed a bug where pressing enter to start altboot would launch the default option. (Thanks to prh@#openzaurus) Jan 20 03:53:57 - Disabled "Copy RootFS" menu item as this part is not finished, yet. Jan 20 03:53:59 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9bbf1292... 10/packages/linux/openzaurus-pxa_2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedix20031107.inc: Jan 20 03:54:00 hrw|work: great!!! i'm happy for you Jan 20 03:54:02 openzaurus-pxa/poodle255-kernel: fix build of kernel for PXA255 powered poodle Jan 20 03:54:04 - not bumping PR as noone had previous changeset before Jan 20 03:54:06 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r300aaee7... 10/packages/libsdl/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jan 20 03:54:12 libsdl-(qpe|x11|mixer): update to cleaned state from .dev Jan 20 03:54:14 - rev 849f38b93223ee6bb8e862ca52fb93cf822597c7 Jan 20 03:54:16 - libsdl-mixer: set SDL_CONFIG (see bug #500) Jan 20 03:54:18 - rev beeae2bd3ca26555bfc0b9e933ce7e51fc53ab80 Jan 20 03:54:19 - libsdl-x11 1.2.7: enable cdrom support, need for scummvm. Also bump PR for -qpe version Jan 20 03:54:22 - rev e5ed779bbcac2d7c6e324cc7fcabb5259dbed245 Jan 20 03:54:26 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r61ded4f8... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: openzaurus-3.5.4.conf: enable ELPP for c7x0 machines Jan 20 03:54:29 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * reec6f09d... 10/packages/bluez/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:54:31 bluez-utils: disable HIDD for OpenZaurus Jan 20 03:54:33 - Zaurus devices lack BT usually so users got error/warning message on boot Jan 20 03:54:35 taken from .dev Jan 20 03:54:36 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf071a88e... 10/packages/bluez/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:54:45 bluez-utils: added workaround for dtl1_cs CF cards Jan 20 03:54:47 - dtl1_cs driver does not support suspend/resume so after resume Jan 20 03:54:48 we have to eject/insert card to get it working again Jan 20 03:54:51 - close #417 Jan 20 03:54:53 taken from .dev Jan 20 03:54:55 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra66371df... 10/packages/gpe-what/gpe-what_0.42.bb: gpe-what: update to 0.42 Jan 20 03:55:02 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9fb57947... 10/packages/libcontactsdb/libcontactsdb_0.3.bb: libcontactsdb: update to 0.3 Jan 20 03:55:05 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2dec42ed... 10/packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.49.bb: gpe-bluetooth: update to 0.49 Jan 20 03:55:08 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra92c651a... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.69.bb: gpe-calendar: update to 0.69 Jan 20 03:55:11 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8da3909b... 10/packages/gpe-clock/gpe-clock_0.23.bb: gpe-clock: update to 0.23 Jan 20 03:55:18 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r133a2876... 10/packages/gpe-mininet/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gpe-mininet: Add new release 0.7 and remove ancient 0.4. Jan 20 03:55:21 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r827f4059... 10/packages/avahi/ (avahi-0.6.1/dbus-0.60-fix.patch avahi_0.6.1.bb): avahi: drop buggy 0.6.1 Jan 20 03:55:23 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r04fa0974... 10/packages/bluez/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:55:28 bluez-utils: disable HIDD for OpenZaurus Jan 20 03:55:29 - Zaurus devices lack BT usually so users got error/warning message on boot Jan 20 03:55:32 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9b2d4fdc... 10/packages/bluez/ (8 files in 2 dirs): Jan 20 03:55:34 bluez-utils: added workaround for dtl1_cs CF cards Jan 20 03:55:36 - dtl1_cs driver does not support suspend/resume so after resume Jan 20 03:55:38 we have to eject/insert card to get it working again Jan 20 03:55:40 - close #417 Jan 20 03:55:42 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rdf9da1d2... 10/packages/meta/slugos-image.bb: slugos-image: correct zImage name used in full .img in meta Jan 20 03:55:47 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rff246d61... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/matchbox-panel_0.9.2.bb: matchbox-panel: Include patches to fix polling and cancellation of panel messages. Jan 20 04:00:06 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r5e7566ba... 10/packages/libtiff/tiff_3.7.2.bb: Jan 20 04:00:07 tiff_3.7.2.bb : correct SRC_URI, this release has moved folder to make Jan 20 04:00:07 way for newer release. Jan 20 04:00:07 lrg|home: hi Jan 20 04:02:19 lrg|home: can u send me the url of the headset webshop you use for z? Jan 20 04:03:56 hey hey ! things are moving in OE world !! Jan 20 04:04:20 which oe server is online now? Jan 20 04:04:49 katossi_uni: all three should be up Jan 20 04:04:55 greentux: hi, we used farnell, but they sent they the wrong thing so I got one of the techs to make up a connected to connect hp and mic to a single 3.5mm stereo jack Jan 20 04:05:37 * lrg|home is writing gibberish this morning Jan 20 04:05:58 lrg|home: same here. ok so i will build some more headsets :) Jan 20 04:06:22 greentux: you could maybe even try a mobile phone shop. Jan 20 04:07:30 koen|sleep: mnt 0.26 can not yet convert the OE database Jan 20 04:12:48 Can anyone tell me what are the minimal library dependecies fot kdrive-fbdev X server, please ???? Jan 20 04:18:26 anja: look in the Packages file for a feed Jan 20 04:21:49 XorA: THX Jan 20 05:18:12 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r493a78d2... 10/packages/links/links-x11_2.1pre20.bb: Jan 20 05:18:13 links-x11_2.1pre20.bb : added --without-sdl to stop picking up hosts SDL Jan 20 05:18:13 as it was never intended this bb to link with SDL. Jan 20 05:30:04 hrw|work: could you add a Packages.gz into the updates feed? Jan 20 05:30:27 law_: prefer not Jan 20 05:30:54 this way I would not forget to update it each time when I add something there Jan 20 05:31:39 ok so i have to wget all manually :-) Jan 20 05:35:12 <[lala]> hrw|work: is there a shortcut for opie->menu->desktop? Jan 20 05:36:24 [lala]: 'Home' button Jan 20 05:36:49 <[lala]> hrw|work: hmm, home button cycles the tabs on my borzoi Jan 20 05:37:08 [lala]: and goes to desktop from application Jan 20 05:37:43 <[lala]> hrw|work: well, i want all windows from running application minimized Jan 20 05:38:07 <[lala]> that is what happens with opie->menu->desktop Jan 20 05:38:13 [lala]: and thats default option on Home button in opie Jan 20 05:38:37 <[lala]> hmm Jan 20 05:38:45 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4d2d8a15... 10/packages/gpe-mininet/gpe-mininet_0.7.bb: gpe-mininet: updated to 0.7 Jan 20 05:38:46 <[lala]> it works if the application is fullsize Jan 20 05:39:13 <[lala]> but not if the application is not full screen Jan 20 05:40:04 hm.. cant test it now - gpe on my c760 Jan 20 05:44:15 <[lala]> hrw|work: how do i minimize a single window? Jan 20 05:44:31 [lala]: no option Jan 20 05:44:47 <[lala]> thats pretty annoying isn't it? Jan 20 05:49:43 in the moment is it hard to decide gpe or opie... Jan 20 06:07:07 alarm works now with collie :-) Jan 20 06:08:59 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re62d04a8... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.15.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Add fix for akita sound problem (closes #584). Also add some experimental patches from dirk to intergrate tosa and corgi support. Jan 20 06:09:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r8a37972f... 10/packages/eds/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Add eds-dbus (svn version) Jan 20 06:09:15 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r4d2f2217... 10/packages/dates/dates_svn.bb: Add dates (svn version). Jan 20 06:09:20 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd4eb3e59... 10/packages/contacts/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add contacts 0.1 and svn versions Jan 20 06:09:23 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7be99bd4... 10/packages/puzzles/ (puzzles_r6358.bb puzzles_r6505.bb): puzzles: Upgrade from r6358 to r6505 Jan 20 06:09:27 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rdd761723... 10/packages/gnome/gconf-dbus_svn.bb: gnome-dbus_svn: Disable PARALLEL_MAKE. Jan 20 06:22:16 hmm if i press ctrl+c on my collies virtual keyboard calendar appears Jan 20 06:22:31 hrw|work: could you confirm this? Jan 20 06:30:27 law_: under gpe? dont have collie here Jan 20 06:30:46 hrw|work: yes gpe Jan 20 06:38:49 law_: remind me that when I will be during evening so I'll check it. Jan 20 06:39:05 law_: and ctrl+c you mean Fn+c, Fn+LShift+C? Jan 20 06:39:33 hrw|work: yes, but i also doesnt work with the screen-keyboard Jan 20 06:40:23 law_: so - if I press Fn+c on collie under GPE then virtual keyboard appears - yes? Jan 20 06:41:17 no i you press ctrl+c on the virtual keyboard gpe-calendar appears Jan 20 06:41:46 ah. ok Jan 20 06:42:56 law_: bonus feature :-) Jan 20 06:43:09 XorA: :-) Jan 20 06:43:19 like Fn+RShift jumping to menu in opie Jan 20 06:43:40 law_: on c760 it does not happen. Jan 20 06:43:48 hrw|work: i know Jan 20 06:44:04 law_: florian has gpe on his collie - could you talk with him about it? Jan 20 06:44:22 hrw|work: ok Jan 20 06:58:15 Anyone knows the Geode mantainer?? Jan 20 06:58:32 re zecke Jan 20 07:00:40 doppiaemme: its me Jan 20 07:03:02 Geode sc1100 soekris board: http://www.soekris.com/net4801.htm Jan 20 07:03:18 trying to build.... Jan 20 07:10:09 Where's the file that has all the default values (for sbindir, bindir etc)? Jan 20 07:10:48 nm ;-) Jan 20 07:10:54 NAiL: conf/bitbake.conf? Jan 20 07:12:49 yup Jan 20 07:13:37 Is there a way I can know exactly what kernel version is built for a specific distro? Jan 20 07:13:37 doppiaemme: sorry, I have a differnt username, and you have private msgs blocked Jan 20 07:14:08 anyway, nobody has built that for OE Jan 20 07:14:24 ie, openslug currently builds 2.6.15.1... How can I figure that out in a .bb? Jan 20 07:14:47 doppiaemme: once you get the kernel build you should be fine Jan 20 07:14:57 doppiaemme: just build for a i386 or i486 instruction set Jan 20 07:15:31 NAiL: you got it via KERNEL_VERSION variable Jan 20 07:15:50 NAiL: look at patch in #524 how I did 2.4/2.6 checking Jan 20 07:17:02 hrw|work: I just need to pass it to a Makefile Jan 20 07:17:32 the zd1211 kernel module has a braindead Makefile Jan 20 07:17:59 NAiL: EXTRA_OEMAKE = "kernel=${KERNEL_VERSION}" thing? Jan 20 07:18:53 CP|Laptop: oh, thanks.... I added a geodesc1100.conf in conf/machine and a packages/linux/linux-geodesc1100-2.6.12 folder with my defconfig.... I don't konw if it's the right procedure... If it won't work I'll try with just build i386 Jan 20 07:57:00 mickey|lunch: ping Jan 20 09:26:56 hrw|work: pong Jan 20 09:28:19 did CoreDump|afk recently appear again? Jan 20 09:28:24 mickeyl: no Jan 20 09:28:34 hmm bummer - he posted on zug didn't he? Jan 20 09:28:48 mickeyl: could you look at wireless bugs? WE18 for 2.4 and wireless-tools update? Jan 20 09:29:22 mickeyl: WE18 works on 2.4.18, wireless-utils 28pre13 on my c760 Jan 20 09:29:45 mickeyl: he did Jan 20 09:29:46 hrw|work: ok, i'll make some tests at weekend on collie. Jan 20 09:29:52 mickeyl: he was here last week Jan 20 09:29:57 hrw|work: if it goes well, i'll commit the stuff Jan 20 09:30:12 JustinP: ping Jan 20 09:30:21 We probably need a few upgrades to various wireless utils for 2.6 kernels... Jan 20 09:30:21 mickeyl: do we add it to 3.5.4? Jan 20 09:30:33 hrw|work: i don't think there's any need for it or is it? Jan 20 09:30:51 mickeyl: WE18 == WPA Jan 20 09:31:30 ah i see. that could come in handy Jan 20 09:31:31 mickeyl: and updating wireless-tools remove warning message from iwconfig output under 2.6 Jan 20 09:31:56 mickeyl: and as it is wireless stuff I prefer to leave it for you ;) Jan 20 09:32:01 hrw|work: iwlist doesn't work at all due to WE mismatch Jan 20 09:32:02 sure :) Jan 20 09:32:45 btw - does apm fix from our 2.4.18 kernels is needed in 2.4.20/cxx00 or not? I have it ported if needed Jan 20 09:35:14 hrw|work: that seems to work here. Jan 20 09:36:57 ok Jan 20 09:46:42 we also have gpe to update (bug #614) but that part I think will koen get (as gpe user :) Jan 20 09:47:21 koen: what do you think about it? Jan 20 09:51:29 hrw|work: I was working on that this morning, but had to leave for work a 7:00 Jan 20 09:51:50 koen: ok Jan 20 09:52:03 koen: libgpewidget 0.107 does not build in branch ;( Jan 20 09:52:07 I have a hardcopy of that ticket next to my laptop :) Jan 20 09:52:12 ;) Jan 20 09:52:21 hrw|work: I know, that's why prefereed.... uses 106 Jan 20 09:52:27 koen: I added mininet 0.7 Jan 20 09:53:31 heh Jan 20 09:53:32 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.oz354fam083/packages/gpe-mininet Jan 20 09:53:41 that's where I was this morning :) Jan 20 09:53:45 ;) Jan 20 09:54:27 there he is Jan 20 09:54:28 hi Jan 20 09:55:36 hmm? I didn't do it! I swear! =) Jan 20 09:55:38 hey CoreDump|home Jan 20 09:56:47 hi CoreDump|home Jan 20 09:56:54 tried GPE from 3.5.4 yesterday. Man i wish opie had some of that stuff Jan 20 09:57:02 yo koen & hrw|work Jan 20 09:57:20 CoreDump|home: I also wish that gpe had some of opie stuff ;) Jan 20 09:57:33 =) Jan 20 09:57:43 CoreDump|home: that's what you get for being tied to a prehistoric qt/e Jan 20 09:57:53 just move opie over to qt/x11 Jan 20 09:58:03 I could live with that Jan 20 09:58:42 I like Opies apps in that they were written w/ a PDA in mind. Can't say that for a lot of GPE things which were just "ported" over from Gnome. Jan 20 09:58:57 Anyways, GPE looks sweet Jan 20 09:59:10 koen: we are not tied ;) Jan 20 09:59:17 koen: my Opie runs on Darwin/OS X Jan 20 09:59:45 zecke: the impression people get from your favourite trolltech shill is a bit different Jan 20 10:16:59 * CoreDump|home tries to compile e-image after updating a bazillion e17/ versions Jan 20 10:18:08 <[lala]> koen: do you have qt/x11 running? Jan 20 10:18:30 [lala]: I had lyx running using qt3/x11 a while back Jan 20 10:18:56 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r398f545b... 10/packages/gpe-taskmanager/gpe-taskmanager_0.19.bb: gpe-taskmmanager: update to 0.19 Jan 20 10:19:01 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9eea709c... 10/packages/minilite/minilite_0.50.bb: minilite: update to 0.50 Jan 20 10:19:59 <[lala]> i tried the xqt_0.0.9 thing in oe, but my x app (minisip) simply crashed with that Jan 20 10:20:06 heh Jan 20 10:20:09 xqt is evil Jan 20 10:20:21 <[lala]> i got the feeling that there is a lot of stuff missing ... like fonts etc. Jan 20 10:20:27 either use real X or live with qtopiaaaaaargh qt/e crap ;) Jan 20 10:21:03 hrw|work: we'd always be interested to hear what opie facilities you miss in gpe. Jan 20 10:21:15 <[lala]> koen: is it possible to build qtopia within oe? Jan 20 10:21:43 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r57818833... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: gpe 2.7: update to 2.7 :) Jan 20 10:21:47 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rfe5a2a0c... 10/packages/libgpelaunch/libgpelaunch_0.14.bb: libgpelaunch: update to 0.14 Jan 20 10:21:58 [lala]: afaik qtopia isn't completely open source Jan 20 10:22:12 <[lala]> koen: that was my impression as well Jan 20 10:22:45 koen: that is incorrect - the sharp qtopia isn't totally open source Jan 20 10:22:59 the normal qtopia for PDA's is Jan 20 10:23:13 nobody has bothered adding it to OE however Jan 20 10:23:20 <[lala]> i see Jan 20 10:23:24 and it most probably requires gcc 2.95.x Jan 20 10:23:25 'cause it sucks Jan 20 10:23:32 at least 2.1beta did Jan 20 10:23:53 looks like a low-res unstable opie ripoff Jan 20 10:24:10 qpf fonts, qvga icons, etc Jan 20 10:26:37 hi i nearly finished configuring the new mysql-5.0.18 there is only one problem. The config script tries to check if sprintf is working and in the old version there was a patch for a files called acinclude.m4 but in the new version there is no file like this maybe someone here can help me? Jan 20 10:30:02 hey zecke :) Jan 20 10:30:09 new problems new questions :) Jan 20 10:30:12 hi i nearly finished configuring the new mysql-5.0.18 there is only one problem. The config script tries to check if sprintf is working and in the old version there was a patch for a files called acinclude.m4 but in the new version there is no file like this maybe someone here can help me? Jan 20 10:30:54 kami22: use grep to see where this function is now ;) Jan 20 10:31:52 hey zecke Jan 20 10:31:56 what do you think of this poster? Jan 20 10:32:05 https://secure.mithis.com/~tim/tp-poster-small-final.png Jan 20 10:32:39 mithro: you made it ;) I'm downloading it now Jan 20 10:33:08 can't read about and help wanted Jan 20 10:33:29 I like the icon at the lower left Jan 20 10:34:27 zecke: thinked about the same but i dont know how to use grep for searching maybe you can give me a little more explanation for what u mean Jan 20 10:35:17 kami22: grep -rni "searchfor" * Jan 20 10:35:54 zecke: yeah i made it :P Jan 20 10:36:33 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1f5a04d1... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/matchbox-panel_0.9.2.bb: matchbox: update 0.9.2 with patches from .dev Jan 20 10:36:58 mithro: it really looks good Jan 20 10:37:05 mithro: now you can go to exhibitions Jan 20 10:38:00 hrm Jan 20 10:38:08 bluez-utils fails to compile Jan 20 10:39:02 ~lart sourceforge CVS Jan 20 10:39:03 * ibot duct-tapes sourceforge CVS to the floor and drools on him Jan 20 10:41:38 thanks Jan 20 10:42:02 zecke: i'm getting someone with an artists touch to fix it up a bit :P Jan 20 10:42:21 i really like the logo Jan 20 10:42:32 me too Jan 20 10:42:42 i'm going to do some "merchanice" with it on Jan 20 10:42:42 I'm going to steal it Jan 20 10:42:56 zecke: for what? Jan 20 10:43:04 mithro: personal use ;) I really like it Jan 20 10:43:22 http://darcs.thousandparsec.net/repos/media/logo/ Jan 20 10:43:29 there is the original Jan 20 10:43:50 high quality png and original PSP image Jan 20 10:43:57 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rcdc82411... 10/packages/rxvt-unicode/rxvt-unicode_5.6.bb: rxvt-unicode: update to 5.6 r3 from .dev Jan 20 10:44:02 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8ec27530... 10/packages/startup-monitor/startup-monitor_0.18-2.bb: startup-monitor: add 0.18 Jan 20 10:45:09 mithro: no xcf version? Jan 20 10:45:29 sadly no Jan 20 10:45:56 you could most probably load the PSP == Paintshop Pro rather then Photoshop :P Jan 20 10:47:16 anyway food call Jan 20 10:47:17 see ya! Jan 20 10:49:11 wb drw Jan 20 10:49:27 hi zecke Jan 20 10:59:23 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r90fdf44f... 10/packages/dbus/ (dbus_0.34.bb dbus_0.34.inc dbus_0.50.bb dbus_0.50.inc): delete unused new style dbus versions Jan 20 11:05:07 hmm i've built both gpe/opie images using OE , after i flash my ipaq they boot...but display isn't lit up and touching stylus to screen does nothing... Jan 20 11:05:12 known issue by any chane? Jan 20 11:05:15 chance Jan 20 11:05:30 let me guess: h5xxx Jan 20 11:05:37 haha yes Jan 20 11:05:51 remove the battery for a few hours Jan 20 11:05:58 that fixes it for me most of the times Jan 20 11:06:12 ahhh okay thank you i'll give that a try Jan 20 11:06:30 or reset it a few (~25) times Jan 20 11:07:00 hahaha yeh i think i've done about 15 i'lll try more if all else fails. Jan 20 11:07:33 h5xxx = annoying hardware Jan 20 11:08:18 oic darn. i picked it cause it seemed to be one of most supported. ah well Jan 20 11:09:06 my h5550 is gathering dust because the lcd is broken Jan 20 11:15:22 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf2766fb4... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/matchbox-panel.inc: matchbox-panel: set ARCH to MACHINE to fix big/small icon issues Jan 20 11:29:27 _alwin_: hey Jan 20 11:29:35 <_alwin_> hi Jan 20 11:31:42 mickeyl: pong Jan 20 11:31:48 CoreDump|home: ummm...you're playing with efl stuff? Jan 20 11:31:55 CoreDump|home: I've got some updates ready Jan 20 11:32:03 CoreDump|home: although entrance is still failing on me.... Jan 20 11:32:06 JustinP: hey Jan 20 11:32:10 the old stuff worked fine, though Jan 20 11:32:28 well, I _was_ trying to compile it but sourceforge CVS made that impossible Jan 20 11:32:43 ah Jan 20 11:32:48 well I've updated the CVS servers as well Jan 20 11:32:53 nice =) Jan 20 11:32:56 I just need to be able to commit Jan 20 11:33:09 hmm key not working? Jan 20 11:33:15 I haven't actually *tried* but I assumed from an earlier e-mail that I couldn't Jan 20 11:33:32 hold on, I'll try... Jan 20 11:33:34 assume all you can Jan 20 11:33:39 heh Jan 20 11:33:47 or read the numerous hints posted to the mailinglist Jan 20 11:33:52 or read the topic of #oe Jan 20 11:33:57 or .... Jan 20 11:34:49 I saw no hints whatsoever, just an e-mail saying I hadn't followed instructions...which I'd never seen Jan 20 11:34:56 heh Jan 20 11:35:00 and I can't see the whole topic.... Jan 20 11:35:07 I only mailed them about 7 times to the list Jan 20 11:35:36 pff Jan 20 11:35:42 *that*? I did that long long ago Jan 20 11:36:20 you obviously didn't Jan 20 11:36:50 since neither I or mickeyl have a mail from you stating you followed the instructions Jan 20 11:36:54 and in my e-mail to you yesterday or so I said that I'd used a new copy Jan 20 11:37:50 and in the mail linked int he topic there's nothing about e-mailing anyone back Jan 20 11:38:09 and I also was not doing any dev for a while, so I just didn't bother trying Jan 20 11:38:15 anyway, I did e-mail you both yesterday Jan 20 11:39:58 hi koen. quick question for you: do I want glibc, or glibc-intermediate for PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc? Jan 20 11:40:24 intermediate Jan 20 11:41:20 ok. and do I add it to my local.conf? Jan 20 11:41:35 that, or $DISTRO.conf Jan 20 11:42:00 mreimer: if it gives you a choice, I think you generally want glibc. Jan 20 11:42:18 iirc, glibc-intermediate will select itself (or, rather, glibc will deselect itself) in the instances when -intermediate is actually necessary. Jan 20 11:42:36 ah right, for eabi I had to use intermediate to avoid DEPENDS deadlocks Jan 20 11:43:00 ok. I'm getting the following NOTE, which I haven't seen before, and I don't want to ignore it: NOTE: multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate); Jan 20 11:43:00 NOTE: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc Jan 20 11:43:40 koen: you do need -intermediate if tls is selected, which it probably is for eabi. I guess glibc needs a bit of tweaking to notice that. Jan 20 11:43:54 uf... time to finally go to home. Jan 20 11:44:22 heh Jan 20 11:44:30 reminds me of my day of work Jan 20 11:44:58 * pb_ going home Jan 20 11:44:59 later all Jan 20 11:45:05 drive from enschede to coevorden (~100km) to find out that 90% of the people I needed to measure were stationed in Enschede Jan 20 11:45:06 bye pb_ Jan 20 11:45:16 talk about wasting time Jan 20 11:45:17 I had to create overcomplicated system of rights in our CMS for one of our customers. Jan 20 11:45:28 ~lart police and military planners Jan 20 11:45:29 * ibot slams police and military planners against a large cement Tux Jan 20 11:45:49 I hope that someone else will write usermanual for it ;) Jan 20 11:46:00 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5b3d4e52... 10/packages/xserver-common/ (files/100dpi.patch xserver-common_1.2.bb): xserver-common: update 100dpi patch, courtesy Mads Chr. Olesen Jan 20 11:46:54 koen: looks like I would need to update some of packages for OZ testers Jan 20 11:47:06 hrw|work: You'll love my next commit Jan 20 11:47:42 umm can I specify a _server_ for "mt commit"? Jan 20 11:47:49 you can't Jan 20 11:47:54 commit is a local action Jan 20 11:47:58 ahhh right Jan 20 11:48:05 ignore me =) Jan 20 11:48:11 will do ;) Jan 20 11:48:14 heh Jan 20 11:49:36 hrw|work: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=1fdfe7749f240f81121c720201e84207b31914f0 Jan 20 11:50:12 koen: you nasty Jan 20 11:50:22 I know :) Jan 20 11:50:31 one user wrote: NO-NO! Please don't remove ipsec ! Jan 20 11:50:40 the consensus on familiar-dev seemed to be 'get rid of it, or write a GUI for it' Jan 20 11:50:46 ok Jan 20 11:50:48 good for me Jan 20 11:51:21 I will probably create ttf-dejavu-sans-mono-lite which will contain only Regular style - another space gain Jan 20 11:51:29 cool Jan 20 11:51:31 who needs bold/italic in console? Jan 20 11:51:59 *cough* pdaX *cough* Jan 20 11:52:10 f. them Jan 20 11:58:13 koen: is there another magic incantation I need to utter? Jan 20 11:58:47 screw pdaxrom Jan 20 11:59:55 CoreDump|home: their faq is funny Jan 20 12:00:04 got an URL? Jan 20 12:00:12 Q: (something) A: drop to console and do ... .. .. Jan 20 12:00:19 hehe Jan 20 12:00:25 CoreDump|home: pdax***.org Jan 20 12:00:59 *** = Russian Other Minded? Jan 20 12:01:15 cu Jan 20 12:01:17 I don't even get the FAQ page with Firefox Jan 20 12:01:29 ty Jan 20 12:01:38 later hrw|gone Jan 20 12:02:07 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1fdfe774... 10/conf/machine/handheld-common.conf: handheld-common: remove openswan and ipsec from base images to gain space Jan 20 12:03:30 * JustinP is going to have more merges than actual changes once he can commit Jan 20 12:04:10 that sounds like you committed using a stale working copy Jan 20 12:06:07 doesn anyone know here if Poodle and Collie have identical keyboards? Jan 20 12:06:34 I'm tempted to do a keymap for them Jan 20 12:06:40 zecke: cute :) Jan 20 12:07:18 koen, I'm confused about the best thing to do regarding the PREFERRED_PROVIDER stuff. I'm getting NOTE's about arm-linux-libc-for-gcc, tslib, and libgpewidget. Is the best place for these conf/familiar-0.8.3.conf? Jan 20 12:08:35 koen: no, I've just been comitting local revisions, then updating because I want to try the new changes others have made....I just can't commit, so I have to keep merging with the head when I want an update Jan 20 12:11:38 koen: Qt you mean? Jan 20 12:14:49 koen: did I catch you in the middle of an update, or did you forget to commit some .bb changes on oz354fam083? ... Jan 20 12:14:58 NOTE: preferred version 0.23 of gpe-clock not available Jan 20 12:14:59 NOTE: preferred version 0.1.28 of gpe-conf not available Jan 20 12:14:59 NOTE: preferred version 0.42 of gpe-what not available Jan 20 12:15:01 koen: did you consider buying a MACBookPro? Jan 20 12:16:20 zecke, can't you run svn vis https? Jan 20 12:16:32 Crofton: you need a mod_dav module in your apache Jan 20 12:16:37 zecke: I did Jan 20 12:16:43 zecke: send me money and I'll buy one :) Jan 20 12:17:04 koen: move to Berlin and you have a job! Jan 20 12:17:06 I did svn via apache and it wasn't to bad Jan 20 12:17:15 but I am no sooper guru Jan 20 12:17:19 zecke: I actually have a job now :) Jan 20 12:17:28 although I need to set svn via http up again Jan 20 12:17:40 Crofton: it is proven as well, but koen's server does not have it loaded ;) Jan 20 12:17:52 ah Jan 20 12:18:03 I figured there was a reason :) Jan 20 12:18:35 Crofton: same goes for mercurial (I could run a server but the port would be firewalled) Jan 20 12:18:56 Do you need someone to run svn over http/https? Jan 20 12:19:19 mreimer: those files should be in Jan 20 12:19:22 * koen checks Jan 20 12:19:35 * mreimer pulls again Jan 20 12:21:00 Crofton: why not, if you could OE devels commit acces Jan 20 12:21:10 if you could give OE devels... Jan 20 12:21:19 *verb skipper* Jan 20 12:21:36 I don't have time right now, but I need to figure stuff out for real work Jan 20 12:21:48 so maybe I will try and deal with it over the weekend Jan 20 12:22:10 maybe I can make multiple svn repos, one for real work, and a test one for oe Jan 20 12:22:20 hey zecke Jan 20 12:22:27 I can make it number one procrastination task Jan 20 12:22:50 i can host darcs and/or git if you wish Jan 20 12:22:52 Crofton: I use svk, so I can do syncing from ewi to your repo Jan 20 12:23:01 ok Jan 20 12:23:17 I'll do my best to invest a few hours over the weekend Jan 20 12:23:23 however I'm going to egypt for the next month so might be fairly uncontactable Jan 20 12:23:31 I'll see if I can do it over https Jan 20 12:23:38 is that preferable for you? Jan 20 12:23:43 koen, I still don't have those three .bb files. am I doing something wrong? Jan 20 12:23:44 Crofton: anonymous http would be good as well Jan 20 12:23:49 ok Jan 20 12:23:56 koen: I'm pulling from ewi Jan 20 12:23:59 https is secondary for me Jan 20 12:24:08 i'll see what I can do Jan 20 12:24:11 mreimer: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/manifest.psp?id=1fdfe7749f240f81121c720201e84207b31914f0&path=packages/gpe-clock Jan 20 12:24:21 for pushing https is mandantory for me ;) Jan 20 12:24:27 hmmm Jan 20 12:24:32 why? Jan 20 12:24:46 zecke: if you want to do something really evil and run a UML on my host, you could most probably do that too Jan 20 12:25:13 grr. I started fresh with koen's OE.db yesterday, and just pulled. what could be the problem? Jan 20 12:25:53 Crofton: I do not want unencrytped password challenge Jan 20 12:26:02 mreimer: let me update the snapshot Jan 20 12:26:05 koen, is that manifest from .dev or .oz354fam083? Jan 20 12:26:22 .oz Jan 20 12:26:23 .oz354fam083 I see Jan 20 12:26:24 mithro: I would be fine with UML Jan 20 12:26:34 mithro: then I could even give other people push access Jan 20 12:26:45 koen, I see my problem Jan 20 12:27:02 zecke: I don't think i have the SKAS patch in my kernel however :/ Jan 20 12:27:48 which means it might be slow Jan 20 12:28:23 koen: 17 revs in; I've probably got it now. (problem was db name: oe.db vs OE.db) Jan 20 12:28:28 heh Jan 20 12:28:33 thanks for your help Jan 20 12:28:40 mithro: PONG? Do I need to send you my key again? Jan 20 12:28:42 the db snapshot is up to date as well Jan 20 12:28:44 damn Jan 20 12:28:50 mickeyl: PONG? Do I need to send you my key again? Jan 20 12:28:57 zecke, isn't there a way to do good chahlenges over http? there is a bad way and a good way I think? Jan 20 12:29:01 JustinP: i think you meant mickeyl :P Jan 20 12:29:15 mithro: yep. darn auto-complete ;-) Jan 20 12:29:28 i get it quite a bit :P Jan 20 12:29:55 mickeyl should complete before mithro however? Jan 20 12:30:03 if you need to send your key again you imply that it has changed Jan 20 12:30:06 Crofton: maybe, for hh.org I need to get kerberos working Jan 20 12:30:15 which is a mortal sin in key-world Jan 20 12:30:28 koen: so do you think the best place for the PREFERRED_PROVIDER stuff is in conf/familiar-0.8.3.conf? I'm getting NOTE's about arm-linux-libc-for-gcc (vs intermediate flavor), tslib (vs maemo flavor), and libgpewidget (vs hildon flavor). Jan 20 12:30:43 mreimer: that would be a good place Jan 20 12:30:53 koen: no, it hasn't....but since you won't respond I assume there's something else I need to do... Jan 20 12:30:54 mreimer: if you send me a patch I'll probably apply it :) Jan 20 12:30:58 ok :-) Jan 20 12:31:24 I'll test it first, which will take a bit on my lowly PIII 450 MHz (soon to be replaced with a donated 2.8GHz P4) Jan 20 12:32:01 re Jan 20 12:32:21 koen: maybe better move libgpewidget PREF_PROV to preffered-versions-gpe-2.7? Jan 20 12:33:33 hrw: I don't have a strong preference where it should go Jan 20 12:34:01 koen: this way I dont have to duplicate it in oz-3.5.4.conf ;) Jan 20 12:34:07 :) Jan 20 12:39:02 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r19bd7222... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.15/defconfig: ixp4xx-kernel defconfig: Add support for IDE (Acard) and DoC MTD-devices Jan 20 12:39:07 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r595aea33... 10/packages/nfs-utils/ (files/nfsserver nfs-utils_1.0.6.bb): nfs-utils: Add missing test in initscript Jan 20 12:46:42 mithro: if you can arrange uml+root access I would like to use it Jan 20 12:46:53 mithro: if not, enjoy your traveling! Jan 20 12:47:24 koen: am I missing something? Jan 20 12:52:08 zecke: debian uml kernel okay? Jan 20 12:52:59 sure Jan 20 12:53:13 mithro: just something with ssh+http easy to update Jan 20 12:53:47 <_guillermo> should I load any modules to use and usb hd with my akita? Jan 20 12:54:44 how my GB do you want? Jan 20 12:54:57 8 okay? Jan 20 13:00:10 zecke: i need your ssh key Jan 20 13:02:29 mithro: 8 should be plenty of space Jan 20 13:02:36 mithro: where to send it to? Jan 20 13:03:18 my email address is fine Jan 20 13:05:07 mithro: sadly I do not have it in my addressbook (yet) Jan 20 13:05:17 mithro: could you please tell me your address Jan 20 13:06:31 <_guillermo> are vfat partitions supported? vfat modules is not there, but I don't know if it's in the kernel Jan 20 13:06:32 mithro AT mithis DOT com Jan 20 13:07:14 mithro: thanks and sent Jan 20 13:12:16 zecke, does this deal with your concern about clear text passwds and apache? Jan 20 13:12:40 qte 2.3.12 is not too much changed since 2.3.10 - most of our patches apply Jan 20 13:12:48 hrw: yes Jan 20 13:13:00 hrw: font loading is a bit more robust and they claim transparency support... Jan 20 13:13:13 zecke: and pixmapcache improved Jan 20 13:13:33 zecke: too bad that they do not officially released it ;( Jan 20 13:13:37 lamers Jan 20 13:17:44 hrw: past oz3.5.4 we could do a seperate QtE release :} Jan 20 13:18:43 zecke: yep Jan 20 13:23:25 zecke: any idea why Opie would mess with "AltGr" on Collie and assing to Shift function to that key nomatter the keymap? Jan 20 13:23:31 zecke: TT does not do any bugtesting/patches taking? Jan 20 13:23:57 CoreDump|home: on normal collie (not G one) there is RShift not AltGr Jan 20 13:24:16 ah that's good to know Jan 20 13:24:21 CoreDump|home: dunno Jan 20 13:24:37 hrw: well ... I do not have an explanation Jan 20 13:24:37 however, that can be handled by keymapping, opie shouldn frigging touch the keymap =) Jan 20 13:24:49 hrw: I think it is our problem that we do not use gcc 1.4 Jan 20 13:25:02 zecke: I'm writing keymaps for Collie (umlauts w/o "zkbapplet" etc) Jan 20 13:25:29 that AltGr thing is kind annoying and makes it impossible to write a translated keymap Jan 20 13:25:47 CoreDump|home: you can map that key to AltGr? Jan 20 13:25:48 isn't gcc 1.4 a bit too new? Jan 20 13:25:55 zecke: gcc 2.96 is much better Jan 20 13:26:04 koen: I think this is the recommed gcc for compiling gcc Jan 20 13:26:08 zecke: of course, works perfectly in VT's. Opie however re-assigns shift to it Jan 20 13:27:12 koen, adding the following takes care of the libgpewidget NOTE, but not the others. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc=glibc / Jan 20 13:27:12 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_tslib=tslib / PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libgpewidget=libgpewidget Jan 20 13:27:35 (trailing slashes just to signify line breaks) Jan 20 13:27:49 * koen has no idea Jan 20 13:27:59 :-) Jan 20 13:30:18 zecke: NOTE: package qte-2.3.12-r0: task do_patch: completed Jan 20 13:31:23 zecke: /data/tmp/hrw/qte-2.3.12/ on ewi Jan 20 13:42:18 zecke: NOTE: package qte-2.3.12-r0: task do_build: completed Jan 20 13:54:18 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * ra21206de... 10/packages/keymap-locales/ (files/collie/keymap-extension-2.4-de.map keymap-locales.bb): Jan 20 13:54:18 keymap-locales: Jan 20 13:54:18 - Add DE extension for Collie. Non functional due to Opie bug right now. Jan 20 13:54:22 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r5a6619a6... 10/packages/initscripts/ (initscripts-1.0/collie/keymap-2.4.map initscripts_1.0.bb): Jan 20 13:54:23 initscripts: Jan 20 13:54:23 - Add keymap-2.4 for Collie. Jan 20 13:54:40 hrw: and it works as well ;) Jan 20 13:54:57 hrw: I ran Opie on Qt2.3.11 for a while Jan 20 13:55:16 bbl Jan 20 13:55:31 zecke: I have gpe on c7x0 now so will test it in other time Jan 20 14:02:23 koen: you forgot to drop dbus-native 0.34/0.50.... Jan 20 14:46:57 ~lart Nicolaus Baer for not using Enter in bugtracker Jan 20 14:46:58 * ibot farts in Nicolaus Baer's general direction for not using Enter in bugtracker Jan 20 14:48:23 hrw: does your mail client lack a line-wrapping feature? Jan 20 14:49:07 pb__: client does not - webbrowsers lack Jan 20 14:49:24 pb__: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=617 Jan 20 14:49:52 ah, yeah, that is a bit ugly Jan 20 14:50:04 and he does it in all his comments Jan 20 14:50:07 I guess that's bugzilla's fault for marking it preformatted Jan 20 14:51:41 maybe Jan 20 14:52:06 ~lart dtl1_cs for being so ..... Jan 20 14:52:07 * ibot acting on orders from an unspecified client drags dtl1_cs into court suing for $200 million for being so ..... Jan 20 14:56:50 When I run monotone --db=/stuff/oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev it says monotone: misuse : branch org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads what did I do wrong? Jan 20 14:58:17 raphael_burnes: nothing - it means that the last person to commit to the database didn't check to see if they made multiple heads. someone with commit access to the database has to fix it Jan 20 14:59:03 (nslu2-linux developers use makefile targets to reduce the occurance of this problem - you can't get rid of it altogether due to the distributed nature of monotone) Jan 20 14:59:20 so I should just wait to try out openembedded? or is there some sort of snapshot I can get to get started at all? Jan 20 14:59:48 you should use a snapshot to start anyway Jan 20 15:00:07 how do I get one? I was just following the getting started guide and I'm somewhat confused Jan 20 15:00:57 is there a mirror with the snapshot on the oe.handhelds.org? Jan 20 15:01:08 I don't have the URL for the OE snapshot handy. nslu2-linux has one at sources.nslu2-linux.org/monotone/nslu2-linux.db.gz, but that will have an extra org.nslu2-linux.dev branch in it that you may not want Jan 20 15:01:30 ok, thank you! Jan 20 15:02:24 here .dev has one head Jan 20 15:03:24 ~lart debootstrap into forcing me to use gentoo instead Jan 20 15:03:25 * ibot whacks debootstrap into forcing me to use gentoo instead with the cluebat Jan 20 15:03:43 rwhitby: I guess it would be possible to prevent this problem by adding a check on "push" operations. Bitkeeper doesn't suffer from multiple heads despite its distributed nature: it forces you to merge before pushing a change that would introduce a new head. Jan 20 15:03:46 zecke: use apt-gentoo Jan 20 15:04:04 pb_: nod Jan 20 15:04:09 hrw: well I only want a UML rootfs ;) Jan 20 15:04:43 zecke: so what a problem with debootstrap? Jan 20 15:05:23 hrw: it uses chroot for the dpkg call... Jan 20 15:05:43 hrw: e.g. to bootstrap my shark image I place --arch=arm in the commandline... Jan 20 15:05:50 I see Jan 20 15:05:51 hrw: chroot is then not close to clever Jan 20 15:06:26 pb_: the nslu2-linux makefile's "push" target does an update, then a check for multiple heads, then a merge if there are, and only then pushes. There is still a window of time where someone else can push at the same time, but it reduces the incidence. Jan 20 15:06:47 (it does a pull before the first update too) Jan 20 15:07:24 rwhitby: right, yeah. I think that is the best available workaround with the current state of the art in monotone. Jan 20 15:07:31 pb_: agreed Jan 20 15:10:23 pb__: some people claim multiple heads is a feature Jan 20 15:11:32 the only advantage I can see is that it allows you to push without having to pull and merge first. but the advantage of that is debateable. Jan 20 15:11:39 yeah, I can see how it would be in some situations, but it seems like a misfeature that there is no way to prevent them Jan 20 15:12:41 and it definitely seems like a bug that monotone accuses you of a "misuse" when trying to check out a tree that has multiple heads, since this (understandably) causes people to think that they are doing something wrong. Jan 20 15:17:41 pb__: right, a lot of users are confused Jan 20 15:21:52 * zecke is running out of cassis :} Jan 20 15:26:19 * zecke puts gentoo onto his shark... Jan 20 16:03:45 hm, what's wrong if my shared libs end up in the -dev package? it's seems that the order of which packages are packaged are relevent, as both FILES_${PN} and FILES_${PN}-dev include the (shared) libraries (in order to let all non-shared libs to go into -dev), but i'm not sure. all other library packets look file, except for mine. bbfile is: http://pastebin.com/515345 Jan 20 16:04:40 tmbinc: the .so is okay to land in -dev Jan 20 16:04:45 will look at the pastebin now Jan 20 16:06:00 ljp: will trolltech finally release qt/e 2.3.12? Jan 20 16:06:49 hrw: well they were smart enough to bundle qtopia, qt3 and qt2e2.3.12 in the qtopia-pda-2.2 tar ball Jan 20 16:07:35 zecke: I know but I can pester them anyway Jan 20 16:08:27 tmbinc: -dev and nondev have different regexps Jan 20 16:08:39 yes, but both match the library so file Jan 20 16:08:46 tmbinc: so they match different files. If they would use the same regexp the order would be important Jan 20 16:09:22 tmbinc: no one regexp does .so.* and one is .so Jan 20 16:09:36 ouch, thanks. missed that point :) Jan 20 16:12:04 cu - have a nice day/night Jan 20 16:18:19 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * rdb515951... 10/packages/gtk-webcore/files/setHandle_segfault-fix.patch: osb-nrcore_20050430 : add patch to fix library segfault Jan 20 16:18:23 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r7bae67cd... 10/packages/gtk-webcore/osb-nrcore_20050430.bb: Jan 20 16:18:24 osb-nrcore: Jan 20 16:18:24 * added usage of KWIQ patch to fix gtk-webcore segfaults Jan 20 16:18:24 * added usage of setHandle patch to fix gtk-webcore segfaults Jan 20 16:18:24 * bumped release number to r1 Jan 20 16:20:13 good nite Jan 20 16:23:29 is ewi down, again? Jan 20 16:25:42 raduga: it works for me Jan 20 16:25:49 hrm Jan 20 16:25:56 I can pull from vanille, but not ewi Jan 20 16:26:10 what ports does monotone use? Jan 20 16:28:10 5253 on the host Jan 20 16:29:33 strange. I can open a TCP socket direct to that port, but monotone times out while connecting Jan 20 16:30:39 actually, I get a stream of binary from vanille, on that port. ewi gives me a stream of... nothing :) Jan 20 16:31:41 I just noticed that 7 people are trying to pull from ewi right now Jan 20 16:31:50 oh, sorry. Jan 20 16:31:54 I can wait. Jan 20 16:31:57 monotone doesn't handle that in an intelligent way Jan 20 16:32:09 7 people = 7 different ips Jan 20 16:32:18 if there was a problem, I wantedto let you know, while you were still here, is all. Jan 20 16:32:38 hrw: 2.3.12 is in the qtopia-2.2.0 source package now Jan 20 16:34:39 qtopia-2.2.0/qt2/... Jan 20 16:40:12 koen: thanks. fine now Jan 20 17:01:36 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r464cb51e... 10/packages/ (34 files in 2 dirs): efl, e17: update to newest versions of e17 packages Jan 20 17:01:41 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r05f59d02... 10/packages/ (54 files in 4 dirs): Jan 20 17:01:42 efl, e17: update to newest versions, add CVS versions for all Jan 20 17:01:42 - switch to thinktux CVS mirror Jan 20 17:01:42 - move from CVS/SRCDATE to date parameter in cvs URI Jan 20 17:01:42 - entrance and e-wm currently fail compiling Jan 20 17:01:46 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r4d5b94a9... 10/packages/gnome/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gconf-dbus: fix compile error with gconf lock functions in XML backend and fix oldxml in Makefile Jan 20 17:01:51 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r83e18807... 10/packages/synergy/ (synergy_1.2.4.bb synergy_1.2.7.bb): synergy: update to 1.2.7 Jan 20 17:20:22 * JustinP cheers Jan 20 17:22:17 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * re9882538... 10/packages/uclibc/ (14 files in 10 dirs): Jan 20 17:22:17 uclibc: updated thumb patch set (compiles, doesn't work) in svn Jan 20 17:22:17 - this updates the patch set to svn 20060120, the patches now apply Jan 20 17:22:17 but the result is non-functional (completely). Jan 20 17:22:21 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r90cfec2b... 10/packages/ixp425-eth/ (ixp400-eth-1.5/mac-address.patch ixp400-eth_1.5.bb): ixp400-eth: correct the maclist handling in 1.5 Jan 20 17:32:54 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r607060c7... 10/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.107.bb: libgpewidget 0.107: add an ugly hack for which I will burn in hell to work around pkgconfig bugs Jan 20 17:32:58 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * reebffd26... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: gpe 2.7: update gpewidget to 0.107 Jan 20 17:42:31 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r3f5dd0e7... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.15.1.bb: ixp4xx-kernel: comment out 94-loft-setup.patch, cause someone forgot to check in the file. Jan 20 18:42:20 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r6ac1a4c5... 10/packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.1.28.bb: gpe-conf: Add 0.1.28. Jan 20 18:53:31 must go TODAY. MESSAGE ME ONLY ON MSN AT MCSLTD2@HOTMAIL.COM, AIM AT OGD443 or YAHOO at MCSLTD2 IF INTERESTED! 1 alienware desktop computer price $550, one alienware area51-m 5700 notebook price $550. prices include sameday shipping, case, wireless router. Jan 20 20:10:23 * rwhitby-away installs svk on an NSLU2 running Debian sid so we can see what the performance of svk vs monotone is on a 32MB 266MHz XScale ... Jan 20 20:12:17 rwhitby-away: I think that's the definition of masochism.. monotone on a 266MHz XScale. Jan 20 20:15:39 17 seconds for svk to load and print the help ... Jan 20 23:03:21 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * rc495c191... 10/packages/findutils/findutils_4.1.20.bb: Jan 20 23:03:21 findutils: add --without-included-regex for uclibc builds in 4.1.20 Jan 20 23:03:21 - findutils works out that uclibc is not glibc and automagically Jan 20 23:03:21 builds its own regex, this is not good because its own regex Jan 20 23:03:21 relies on GNU specific features which are no longer in uclibc Jan 20 23:03:21 (svn head), whereas the uclibc regex is actually a copy of the Jan 20 23:03:25 glibc one... Jan 20 23:03:27 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r5f5c86ad... 10/packages/diffutils/diffutils_2.8.1.bb: Jan 20 23:03:29 diffutils: add --without-included-regex for uclibc builds in 2.8.1 Jan 20 23:03:31 - diffutils works out that uclibc is not glibc and automagically Jan 20 23:03:33 builds its own regex, this is not good because its own regex Jan 20 23:03:35 relies on GNU specific features which are no longer in uclibc Jan 20 23:03:37 (svn head), whereas the uclibc regex is actually a copy of the Jan 20 23:03:41 glibc one... Jan 20 23:03:45 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * ra3b35fdb... 10/packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb: Jan 20 23:03:47 uclibc: put back thumb patches in svn Jan 20 23:03:49 - since they do apparently work (however 20060120, against these patches Jan 20 23:03:51 have been tested, produces non-working shells such as busybox ash and Jan 20 23:03:53 bash.) Jan 21 00:06:57 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r3e349431... 10/packages/meta/slugos-image.bb: slugos-image: remove DEPENDS which is no longer necessary with bitbake 336 in meta Jan 21 01:08:31 ls Jan 21 01:08:43 Ha. Jan 21 01:08:59 hehe Jan 21 01:56:54 morning all Jan 21 01:57:43 hi RP Jan 21 02:27:29 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r21f3a07b... 10/packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.1.28.bb: gpe-conf: add 0.1.28 Jan 21 02:27:33 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9bed7368... 10/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.107.bb: libgpewidget: disable parallel make Jan 21 02:31:00 Hmmm, orbit2-native-2.10.2 is failing to configure, saying "error: possibly undefined macro: PKG_CONFIG_MIN_VERSION" Jan 21 02:31:08 Does anyone have a thought about this? Jan 21 02:39:49 I guess your pkgconfig (more speciically, pkg.m4) is either too new or too old. Jan 21 02:41:30 hello, i have a problem with glibc when trying to build openzaurus for my tosa machine Jan 21 02:41:41 see http://pastebin.com/515871 Jan 21 02:42:14 can someone help me? Jan 21 02:49:08 any opie core hacker around? Jan 21 02:49:25 good morning all Jan 21 02:49:35 morning koen Jan 21 02:49:40 hi Jan 21 02:49:52 ~lart opie for messing with keymaps Jan 21 02:49:53 * ibot beats the living hamstercrap out of opie for messing with keymaps Jan 21 02:51:05 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6cfd5af9... 10/packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.1.28.bb: gpe-conf: add -DMACHINE = $MACHINE in do_compile Jan 21 02:51:10 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r5cf8cfd0... 10/packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.49.bb: gpe-bluetooth 0.49: add missing dependency on libcontactsdb Jan 21 02:51:14 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2d9933d1... 10/conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.7.inc: gpe 2.7: prefer libgpewidget 0.106 since 0.107 has bogus .la files breaking the build of all packages linking against it. Distributions should build images with 0.106 and put 0.107 in the update/upgrade feed Jan 21 02:51:18 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2e1df3f0... 10/packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.1.28.bb: gpe-conf 0.1.28: bump pr after latest change Jan 21 02:51:22 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r322008a0... 10/packages/gtk-webcore/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gtk-webcore: add segfault fixing patches from .dev Jan 21 02:55:20 * CoreDump|home wonders if gpe-image compiles again Jan 21 02:55:39 it should Jan 21 02:56:07 b0rked yesterday on some bluetooth stuff Jan 21 02:56:11 but my build is still running, so I'm not sure Jan 21 02:56:15 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re7e2bd2f... 10/contrib/buildscripts/familiar/build-fam.sh: Familiar: start adding buildscripts to make it easier for people to rebuild familiar Jan 21 02:57:50 ahh looks good Jan 21 02:59:53 CoreDump|home: make sure you rebuild libgpewidget 0.106 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jan 21 02:59:56 2006