**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 25 02:59:57 2006 Jan 25 03:03:33 hi hrw|work Jan 25 03:16:45 RP: I try to add a DEBUG=1 as a EXTRA_OECONF inn order to see what the install script is getting but it looks like its not understodd Jan 25 03:17:12 is there a way to get the debug output from a perl script withing the bitbake build ? Jan 25 03:20:34 Ifaistos: Have a look at the scripts that get generated in tmp/work/packagename/temp/ Jan 25 03:26:05 hi! Jan 25 03:27:29 ibot seen pb__ Jan 25 03:27:31 pb__ is currently on #gpe (2d 16h 9m 50s) #handhelds.org (2d 16h 9m 50s) #oe (2d 16h 9m 50s). Has said a total of 207 messages. Is idling for 2h 41m 8s, last said: 'bleh, sure is'. Jan 25 03:27:42 pb__: ping Jan 25 03:31:25 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r8fb93f54... 10/packages/gpe-nmf/ (gpe-nmf-0.22/playlist-segfault.patch gpe-nmf_0.22.bb): gpe-nmf: Add patch to fix segfault allpying the playlist. Jan 25 03:31:29 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r09f9e22a... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: remove non-building package memtester Jan 25 03:31:34 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r11faf26a... 10/packages/udev/ (files/network.sh files/local.rules udev.inc udev_071.bb): udev: Add rules for PCMCIA NICs. Only used when pcmciautils is installed. Jan 25 03:31:38 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r08771dbd... 10/packages/prism3-support/ (files/hostap-fw-load prism3-support_1.0.0.bb): prism3-support: Do try to uload firmware when cardctl is missing Jan 25 03:31:42 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r5247269a... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Really remove memtester from feeds Jan 25 03:38:14 pb__: what would be the way to go to get a new keymap supported? the h1940 keymap will be the same as the h1910 keymap... should I copy the files, or reference them? and should I make a patch or can you do it? (it's simple) Jan 25 03:38:34 pb__: talking about xserver-common here, to be precise Jan 25 03:39:36 hey Jan 25 03:39:46 Crofton: the smerge is complete Jan 25 03:39:59 Crofton: I'm converting another 43 revs and then merging them Jan 25 03:40:15 hi zecke Jan 25 03:40:34 RP: did pb_ merge something yet? Jan 25 03:47:47 zecke: Not that I'm aware of Jan 25 03:50:08 git is almost uptodate again Jan 25 04:08:06 Is there some particular reason for OE using GCC 3.4 and not 4.0? Jan 25 04:12:11 DataBeaver: gcc4.0 is not as heavily tested as gcc3.4 Jan 25 04:12:28 DataBeaver: and personally I do not know how many packages need to get fixes applied Jan 25 04:21:18 DataBeaver: Whilst most C code works under gcc 4.0, a lot of the c++ code doesn't. Lots of packages break under 4.0 Jan 25 04:23:05 mplayer C breaks under gcc 4.0 Jan 25 04:24:00 DataBeaver: bootstrap images work under gcc 4 (I made that much work) Jan 25 04:24:41 XorA: I build mplayer with 4.0.2/debian Jan 25 04:25:10 hrw|work: yeah, but it doesnt work when run with a lot of the -sws value Jan 25 04:27:13 ah.. never used sws Jan 25 04:28:10 hrw|work: as far as I can see the gcc-4.0 patch that drifts around the net for mplayer is bogus, it builds but doesnt actually work in a lot of cases, mostly those cases I need :-) Jan 25 04:32:16 hmm here used 3.3.6 last time.. dev-CVS-050601-12:34-3.3.6 Jan 25 04:32:58 dev-CVS-051007-10:47-4.0.2 at home Jan 25 04:34:20 time to rebuild Jan 25 05:16:37 zecke, the svn server done? Jan 25 05:17:15 There seems to be a problem with xml modules and perl Jan 25 05:17:31 for some reason when pearl checks for the existance of a lib Jan 25 05:17:39 its using /usr/lib Jan 25 05:18:06 for example Jan 25 05:18:08 LD_RUN_PATH="/usr/lib" ccache gcc -shared -L/home/stelios/oe/feux/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/lib -L/usr/local/lib Expa$/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lexpat Jan 25 05:18:08 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Jan 25 05:18:15 hi Jan 25 05:18:55 i had the same problem with other modules Jan 25 05:19:12 but cant figure out why.... :( Jan 25 05:20:24 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r50e6077c... 10/packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_cvs.bb: libimdir: add packaging tweaks from .dev Jan 25 05:20:30 I must be the nth to ask... how do you guys manage to use bugs.openembedded.org without the DNS ... by mail ? Jan 25 05:20:50 obergix[work]: it only dissapeard a couple of days ago Jan 25 05:21:35 XorA: yeah, I know, but still since we get emails, the machine should be somwhere I can join it by hacking my /etc/hosts maybe ? Jan 25 05:25:04 25 01:03 < pb__> You might find it works if you add a local /etc/hosts entry for bugs.openembedded.org pointing to 192.216.230.225 Jan 25 05:26:22 obergix[work]: yes that will work, 192.216.230.225 is I beleive the IP Jan 25 05:26:33 oops wrong chan Jan 25 05:26:54 XorA: ? no, I'm here ;) Jan 25 05:27:06 obergix[work]: ah yeah, Ive no idea where I was then :-) Jan 25 05:29:33 hrw|work, XorA, thx that works Jan 25 05:33:31 any objections to announcing on the oe list the IP address ? Jan 25 05:34:48 go ahead, it's not as if the IP address is secret. Jan 25 05:34:56 it's in the headers of all the bugzilla mails, for example Jan 25 05:35:00 RP: btw, your citation in Linux Journal is for Gtk+ Jan 25 05:35:06 pb_: have you never met a windoze warez dealer :-) Jan 25 05:35:27 XorA: not willingly Jan 25 05:35:32 pb_: I was just surprised nobody's answered yet :( Jan 25 05:35:52 obergix[work]: ah, that makese sense :) Jan 25 05:38:04 ~lart cifs in 2.6.15+ Jan 25 05:38:04 * ibot pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps cifs in 2.6.15+ Jan 25 06:07:09 RP: hi, i have a better idea for the ugly sdio problem... Jan 25 06:07:32 Crofton: the revisions are now all merged Jan 25 06:10:15 wb koen|work Jan 25 06:10:24 hey zecke Jan 25 06:24:48 greentux: hi, what's that? Jan 25 07:38:20 quick question, what's the date of the prebreakage repo? i need to get a snapshot due to firewall stuff Jan 25 07:38:58 any snapshot will contain the tag Jan 25 07:39:50 hm, uhm... Jan 25 07:39:51 hm Jan 25 07:39:57 soooo Jan 25 07:40:19 what do i do to revert the files to the prebreakage ones? Jan 25 07:40:28 giel: read topic? Jan 25 07:40:53 uh yeah Jan 25 07:40:57 uhm okay Jan 25 07:41:14 oh, stupid me, ofcourse i need to get a snapshot of the DB as well Jan 25 07:42:26 question: was building opie-image for MACHINE="collie" DISTRO="openzaurus-unstable" (monotone update -rjan2006prebreakage). Image has size of 19.7 MB witch want fir on my flash. bootstrap-image works perfect. what am I missing? Jan 25 07:43:11 aritec: could you pastebin usr/lib/ipkg/status from that image? Jan 25 07:43:36 I'm interested what is inside... probably lot of kernel modules.. Jan 25 07:43:51 is there still something broken in either the dev or release branch? I just built gpe- and opie-images from both branches successfully Jan 25 07:43:57 aritec: how old bitbake you have? Jan 25 07:44:13 ArjanS: if you have latest bitbake + latest OE then nothing should broke Jan 25 07:44:40 bitbake version 1.3.2 Jan 25 07:44:45 aritec: old Jan 25 07:45:00 aritec: you need fresh subversion copy rather Jan 25 07:45:26 hrw|work: ah thanks, that explains. I always get the latest svn version Jan 25 07:46:01 get new bitbake and svn --- thanks Jan 25 08:02:51 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2a51f376... 10/packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.1.29.bb: gpe-conf: add 0.1.29 Jan 25 08:02:59 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rc9029276... 10/packages/zd1211/ (4 files in 3 dirs): zd1211: upstream upgrade to -r52, fix for 'reset not allowed in state 0' on rmmod Jan 25 08:11:22 RP: we can use the sd memeory / mmc driver to tunnel a protocol to our sdcard Jan 25 08:24:46 greentux: that is done on the XMC card, we have our OS on a smartcard chip inside the MMC card, APDU's can be sent wrapped in normal MMC commands Jan 25 08:25:44 XorA: which OS is in the card? Jan 25 08:25:53 XorA: any infos available? Jan 25 08:26:11 morning Jan 25 08:26:19 greentux: its called OS755 and its our Javacard implementation Jan 25 08:26:38 greentux: the drivers for linux are opensource, when Im back at work I could probably dig them out Jan 25 08:26:58 XorA: there are infos about the card in the web? Jan 25 08:27:16 XorA: what controller is on the card (beside the smartcard) Jan 25 08:27:27 greentux: http://america.renesas.com/fmwk.jsp?cnt=x-mobilecard_family_landing.jsp&fp=/products/security/x-mobilecard// is the finished product Jan 25 08:28:35 greentux: I dont know whats in the MMC part, I only got a brief glimpse when I was in Japan supporting our OS, but as far as I know it uses standard MMC commands to "tunnel" commands to our OS inside, it shows as a PCSC card reader and MMC card in windows and linux Jan 25 08:28:40 XorA: read about that card :) Jan 25 08:29:05 renesas are a secretive bunch though and wouldnt give me a proto board :-( Jan 25 08:29:45 XorA: ok, you are not working for renesas? Jan 25 08:30:01 greentux: no I work for Aspects Software in Edin Scotland, we supply the Javacard bit Jan 25 08:30:07 renesas put it alltogether Jan 25 08:30:30 greentux: Its an interesting idea. Shame we couldn't implement SDIO :-/ Jan 25 08:30:36 XorA: ok, and the driver is open, so also the protocol is described in the driver... Jan 25 08:31:25 greentux: if you understand ISO7816 you should be able to work it out from the linux driver Jan 25 08:32:52 XorA: we can also use a different protocol :) are You also at fosdem? Jan 25 08:33:58 XorA: ISO7816 isnt the problem :) Jan 25 08:35:29 greentux: I wont be at FOSDEM, too close to valentines Jan 25 08:35:52 greentux: but I should probably try and dig out the source of those drivers for you Jan 25 08:36:21 greentux: Its probably horribly implemented, Renesas are a bunch of cowboys Jan 25 08:37:05 cya later Jan 25 08:37:38 cu zecke Jan 25 08:40:32 XorA: :) Jan 25 08:40:51 XorA: whould be nice to read these code, tnx Jan 25 08:40:53 greentux: in fact http://www.linuxnet.com/sourcedrivers.html has the drivers Jan 25 08:41:02 just scroll down for XMC Jan 25 08:41:52 XorA: see that.. fine Jan 25 08:48:31 XorA: is it possible to buy that card in europe? do you know anything? Jan 25 08:51:37 greentux: if you represent a company you should be able to by proto cards from renesas, they wont give us any for testing because they are tight bastards, but I know some other companies contacted them and they gave them some Jan 25 08:52:15 XorA: ok, understand :) Jan 25 08:54:16 greentux: BTW what will your card do? Jan 25 08:55:09 XorA: mom Jan 25 08:56:13 XorA: http://www.etokenonlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page Jan 25 08:56:19 XorA: that use we at the moment... Jan 25 08:57:55 XorA: http://www.aladdin.com/etoken/usb_device.asp (i dont work for that company...) Jan 25 08:57:57 greentux: oh, so very similar to XMC Jan 25 08:58:14 XorA: yes, for devices dont have usb :) Jan 25 08:59:06 greentux: trying to work out if you are a competitor or not :-) Jan 25 08:59:39 XorA: i think not... Jan 25 09:00:41 XorA: ok, perhaps... our mother is gisecke & devrient perhaps you know ... Jan 25 09:05:11 anyone got an url for the oe wiki? I need to look at soemthing there ... Jan 25 09:05:39 * Crofton figured it out Jan 25 09:06:10 oe.handhelds.org Jan 25 09:22:33 hey folks Jan 25 09:23:02 hey Jan 25 09:25:24 hi mickeyl Jan 25 09:26:31 mickeyl: what do you think about making release? Jan 25 09:27:10 hrw|work: anytime you like. i think it's good enough this time :) Jan 25 09:27:17 mickeyl: me too Jan 25 09:27:33 cool. should i tag the tree and launch a world build? Jan 25 09:27:52 mickeyl: fix tosa keymap and tosa wifi - then release Jan 25 09:28:09 ah right, wlan-ng release doesn't work Jan 25 09:28:23 wlan-ng people have been alerted but refuse to believe it's their problem Jan 25 09:28:25 *sigh* Jan 25 09:28:41 tell me something about low level packet sizes Jan 25 09:28:42 heh Jan 25 09:29:08 mickeyl: those things are tosa blockers for release imho Jan 25 09:29:26 what's wrong with the keymap? Jan 25 09:30:22 'some keys dont work such as underscore or exclamation mark' Jan 25 09:30:31 hmm yeah Jan 25 09:30:34 that's right Jan 25 09:30:46 and i'm afraid it isn't easily fixable Jan 25 09:30:52 it looks like a keyboard driver problem Jan 25 09:30:58 i'll check again Jan 25 09:31:30 hrw|work: about the suspen which won't resume on akita ? Jan 25 09:31:54 obergix[work]: no idea how to fix it Jan 25 09:32:00 Hi all..... could someone tell me where I canfind a buglist or well-known problems list, if it exists? Jan 25 09:32:06 bugs.openembedded.org Jan 25 09:32:10 hrw|work: just browse the bugtracker for my workaround ! Jan 25 09:32:11 oe.handhelds.org --> wiki Jan 25 09:33:02 hrw|work: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=497 Jan 25 09:33:04 openembedded.org not found..... Jan 25 09:33:24 just needs a wrapper around the suspend script for doing sudo apm -s Jan 25 09:34:03 hrw|work: it's not a fix, but will save lives ;) Jan 25 09:34:11 whose? :D Jan 25 09:34:21 obergix[work]: which suspend.sh it is? Jan 25 09:34:41 hrw|work: gpe suspend menu Jan 25 09:35:19 hrw|work: sorry, I've got no zaurus at work to tell any better Jan 25 09:35:49 hrw|work: in suspend-desktop, I suppose Jan 25 09:35:50 obergix[work]: ok - found in image Jan 25 09:35:51 mickeyl: http://bugs.openembedded.org/ seems down for me..... everythingis ok? Jan 25 09:36:13 obergix[work]: yep - suspend-desktop Jan 25 09:36:19 you're not on oe@hh.org? it's been posted there Jan 25 09:36:20 doppiaemme: it's down for evrybody... but /etc/issue^Whosts may help Jan 25 09:36:27 17:37 hrw@work:hrw$ grep bugs /etc/hosts Jan 25 09:36:27 192.216.230.225 bugs.openembedded.org Jan 25 09:36:34 aaaahhh ok! Jan 25 09:37:14 mickeyl: /usr/bin/apm script suxx when used not in opie;( Jan 25 09:37:59 best reason to use opie then Jan 25 09:37:59 heh Jan 25 09:38:04 no seriously, what does it do? Jan 25 09:38:13 * obergix[work] slaps mickeyl with a fat gnome Jan 25 09:38:41 mickeyl: it is shellscript so cannot be suid. so cannot be used by user Jan 25 09:38:51 mickeyl: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=496 maybe Jan 25 09:38:54 so 'apm -s' does not work for !root users Jan 25 09:39:43 might as well write a patch to apm to kill apmd on 2.4 kernels then Jan 25 09:39:54 instead of using the wrapper script Jan 25 09:40:02 or just forget about 2.4 Jan 25 09:40:08 (yeah i know we can't do that yet) Jan 25 09:40:14 :) Jan 25 09:40:33 * obergix[work] is releaved ;) Jan 25 09:43:10 hello all, oe noob, trying to read docs at www.openembedded.org, dns issues? Jan 25 09:43:51 kitno455: woudnl't you scroll above a little bit ? Jan 25 09:44:08 kitno455: use oe.handhelds.org Jan 25 09:44:18 ~lart OE dns problems Jan 25 09:44:18 * ibot nabs the moon and broadsides OE dns problems with the sea of tranquility Jan 25 09:45:23 mmh Jan 25 09:45:48 yes? Jan 25 09:45:53 obergix[work], the above discussed bugs.open... Jan 25 09:46:14 kitno455: *openembedded.org Jan 25 09:46:27 zecke, all same ip? Jan 25 09:46:59 probably not ;) Jan 25 09:47:14 that is my question Jan 25 09:47:31 reading http://oe.handhelds.org/overview.php Jan 25 09:47:55 it has links to www.openembedded.org Jan 25 09:48:28 i will use oe.handhelds.org Jan 25 09:49:21 hrw|work: I've just renamed the bugs for you to notice ;) Jan 25 09:49:26 obergix[work]: noticed Jan 25 09:50:23 Is there any reference page on using oe distro like OZ or Familiar in a simulator like Qemu or something alike ? Jan 25 09:53:21 mickeyl: apm package should be marked as MACHINE dependent Jan 25 09:55:50 mickeyl: cant we do apm trick in apm_proxy shellscript? Jan 25 09:57:38 hi mickeyl zecke Jan 25 09:58:54 hrw|work: worth a try Jan 25 09:58:57 hey chouimat Jan 25 09:59:09 mickeyl: can you? I do not have 2.4 machine here... Jan 25 09:59:23 * chouimat is tired of this paperwork Jan 25 10:02:17 me neither, but i'll do that soon Jan 25 10:02:48 * mickeyl launches a tosa-2.4 build Jan 25 10:05:08 echo "128.31.0.25 www.openembedded.org" >> /etc/hosts Jan 25 10:16:41 mickeyl: or we need to rewrite that shellscript to C - then we can even add it into apm itself Jan 25 10:17:35 yeah, that's what i meant with "patch" Jan 25 10:18:07 ok. I go home now Jan 25 10:18:17 c'y Jan 25 10:18:31 mickeyl: are you familiar with apm code? Jan 25 10:18:36 not a bit Jan 25 10:18:43 just like me then Jan 25 10:18:47 hehe Jan 25 10:19:06 maybe will write something awful instead of shellscript Jan 25 10:19:09 i trust myself to write a small 2.4 check in the suspend code though Jan 25 10:19:17 yeah Jan 25 10:19:24 sharp2.4 check Jan 25 10:20:22 ok. tosa fixes and apm fix are current major/critical blockers for me Jan 25 10:20:24 cu Jan 25 10:20:42 uh... why not a sudo wrapper like I proposed ? Jan 25 10:20:57 its ugly Jan 25 10:21:17 ok ;) Jan 25 10:21:23 and you're gone ;) Jan 25 10:48:35 hi Jan 25 10:57:43 evening Jan 25 11:02:44 hey reenoo, how are things? Jan 25 11:03:07 hi reenoo Jan 25 11:03:08 hi mickeyl Jan 25 11:03:18 hi pb_ Jan 25 11:05:15 mickeyl: hi! the semester is almost over... so, pretty busy. you? Jan 25 11:05:18 hey pb_ Jan 25 11:11:15 played with git yesterday btw Jan 25 11:11:34 reenoo: klausurvorbereitung, gutachten für diplomarbeiten and then i have a presentation about my phd contents on 16th of february. pretty busy indeed. you? Jan 25 11:11:58 s/you?// Jan 25 11:11:58 mickeyl meant: reenoo: klausurvorbereitung, gutachten für diplomarbeiten and then i have a presentation about my phd contents on 16th of february. pretty busy indeed. Jan 25 11:12:08 ~shoot tim for that ibot feature Jan 25 11:12:09 * ibot shoots tim for that ibot feature in the foot with a glue gun! Jan 25 11:12:12 git seems powerful but rather confusing and I haven't found any comprehensive docs Jan 25 11:12:31 .. and there are something like 200 command line flags. Jan 25 11:13:27 mickeyl: *nod* Jan 25 11:14:11 re Jan 25 11:14:17 hi hrw Jan 25 11:14:20 mickeyl: use s/some/thing without last / Jan 25 11:20:08 Necronom: I'm more worried about the lack of documentation really. you won't need all of the subcommands, but without something equivalent to the svnbook it's hard to figure out which commands will do what you want Jan 25 11:22:38 IOW it makes it more time consuming to test/evaluate git Jan 25 11:23:20 speaking of time... off to get some work done... Jan 25 11:31:56 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r02ed8a66... 10/packages/jamvm/ (jamvm_1.4.1.bb jamvm_1.4.2.bb): jamvm: add 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 Jan 25 11:32:01 03rw 07org.oe.dev * rfc3f515e... 10/packages/classpath/ (4 files): classpath: add 0.18, 0.19, 0.20, and cvs. Jan 25 11:41:28 Mrm. Work. Jan 25 11:42:28 I have an "older" set of metadata and bitbake I am using now Jan 25 11:42:44 like before the monotone bustage that lead to downloading new snap shots Jan 25 11:42:51 now I am having the quilt problem Jan 25 11:42:56 is there an easy fix? Jan 25 11:44:48 echo INHERIT += "patcher" >>local.conf Jan 25 11:47:36 ah Jan 25 11:49:19 more like a workaround than a fix, but who cares Jan 25 11:49:29 some people prefer patcher to quilt anyway Jan 25 11:49:49 hmm, i think i didn't pay the dns folks for a few of my domains, including the oe one. damn being unemployed Jan 25 11:49:58 hey kergoth Jan 25 11:50:01 hey Jan 25 11:50:32 in phoenix now at the new job. got net access at the hotel now, will have to check out zecke's tailor repositories and stuff. havent looked at oe in ages Jan 25 11:50:44 sounds good Jan 25 11:50:48 what is the new job? Jan 25 11:51:48 g'day kergoth Jan 25 12:00:02 kergoth, free dns at zoneedit.com Jan 25 12:00:40 kergoth: do you like the weather better there than in Mpls/SP? Jan 25 12:00:46 (trick question) Jan 25 12:01:42 heh Jan 25 12:02:17 especially this time of year Jan 25 12:10:44 what file fixed the access problem with savannah Jan 25 12:11:05 I am trying to patch together a working system until after the scm stuff calms down Jan 25 12:11:44 Crofton: the svn tree is now current :) Jan 25 12:12:03 yeah, I am considering adding a branch with my local work .... Jan 25 12:12:23 I am wishing the issue hadn't come up just now Jan 25 12:13:09 does the svn tree have working staging stuff? Jan 25 12:13:20 mickeyl: working on the land warrior project. (google it) Jan 25 12:13:34 video games for grown ups :) Jan 25 12:14:32 Crofton: which staging stuff? (autotools related?) Jan 25 12:14:42 Crofton: I think yes it should work :} Jan 25 12:14:59 hmm Jan 25 12:15:01 Crofton: well the actual teesting will not start before monotone 0.26 is released Jan 25 12:15:07 yeah Jan 25 12:15:17 Crofton: I have not managed to compile an OE lately Jan 25 12:15:27 I am just in a tight spot Jan 25 12:18:54 has anyone played with the pre-release 0.26? Jan 25 12:19:23 Crofton: yes it can not yet rosterify OE Jan 25 12:19:28 bummer Jan 25 12:23:17 Crofton; yeah. Jan 25 12:24:11 Crofton; it's faster, has smaller databases, and requires a database migration. Jan 25 12:25:33 so, I have an older oe db Jan 25 12:25:49 before the breakage that lead to peple downloading a new db Jan 25 12:26:01 and I have some stuff in a local branch Jan 25 12:26:07 Necronom: who says it is faster? Jan 25 12:26:49 can I get the current db and add my branch back from my db? Jan 25 12:27:09 Crofton: you could 'serve' that branch Jan 25 12:27:16 Crofton: and then pull it into the new db Jan 25 12:27:31 I am thinking I need to try this ... Jan 25 12:27:36 Crofton: or maybe you could dump that branch Jan 25 12:27:46 Crofton: and see how you can import it into the sqlite file Jan 25 12:27:59 (and btw. do not store the sqlite db on ext3) Jan 25 12:30:04 kergoth: uh oh, you're going to work in military? Jan 25 12:30:33 working for a subcontractor on the army project, yep Jan 25 12:31:11 d'oh Jan 25 12:31:15 reenoo|afk: how is ghc working? Jan 25 12:31:21 reenoo|afk: how is it generating the code? Jan 25 12:32:48 is there still a monotone db I can down load from somewhere to jump start making a new db? Jan 25 12:33:08 on ewi? Jan 25 12:33:21 no urls on the oe wiki Jan 25 12:33:26 ~ewi Jan 25 12:33:27 hmm... ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Jan 25 12:33:28 re Jan 25 12:33:37 thanks ibot Jan 25 12:35:01 RP: ping Jan 25 12:35:02 ~botsnack Jan 25 12:35:02 zecke: aw, gee Jan 25 12:35:52 zecke; I say it's about twice as fast. Jan 25 12:36:10 zecke; but I don't have a benchmark setup. Jan 25 12:36:55 AFAIK it has not yet been tuned for performance... Jan 25 12:37:14 kergoth, land warrior uses win2k? Jan 25 12:40:16 kitno455: it used to use windows, it uses linux nowadays. google for 'linux landwarrior' or similar Jan 25 12:40:43 and you are sabotaging it? Jan 25 12:40:54 ? Jan 25 12:40:59 heh Jan 25 12:41:32 kergoth: well... Jan 25 12:41:50 * zecke wishes no one would work for military Jan 25 12:42:01 zecke: the US army sabotages itself quite nicely Jan 25 12:42:04 the only reason would be sabotage... Jan 25 12:42:16 zecke: see the recent armoured vest scandal Jan 25 12:42:26 i have no moral qualms with working for the military, and dont feel like getting into a debate. Jan 25 12:42:53 kergoth: me too ;) Jan 25 12:43:39 oh crap Jan 25 12:43:51 I have been reminded I need to go to ITAR training Jan 25 12:43:51 Crofton: issue with monotone? Jan 25 12:43:54 no Jan 25 12:44:02 governement :) Jan 25 12:44:11 heh Jan 25 12:44:19 ~lart goverments Jan 25 12:44:19 * ibot gives goverments an extra strength ACME sleeping pill, sending goverments to sleep for 150 years, and awakening to seven strange dwarfs and a large apple Jan 25 12:44:32 I have to deal with some silly people at times Jan 25 12:44:33 or rather the bureaucratics involved Jan 25 12:44:39 yep Jan 25 12:45:02 ~lart people, who need governments Jan 25 12:45:02 * ibot follow's people, who need governments with a gauntlet and ... scratch ... HUMILIATION Jan 25 12:45:21 koen: what is with loadkeys on ewi? each time when I build 2.4-crapix I have to copy keymap generated source because loadkeys fails :( Jan 25 12:45:24 I am going to update the snapshot I just grabbed Jan 25 12:45:33 do I need to specify all the branches? Jan 25 12:45:38 hrw: no idea Jan 25 12:46:08 koen: I was thinking about patching kernel to not even run loadkeys ;) Jan 25 12:46:44 time to resolve irk situation.. irk->irk-targus Jan 25 12:47:10 hmm Jan 25 12:47:44 so the db I downloaded doesn't match the schema when I try to pull from vanille Jan 25 12:49:58 what monotone version to you have? Jan 25 12:51:51 0.23? Jan 25 12:52:04 hmm I bet I should upgrade Jan 25 12:56:02 Crofton; monotone is still under pretty heavy developement, so there are many epochs. :) Jan 25 12:56:42 just compiled opie-image-collie (monotone update -rjan2006prebreakage). the jffs2 file has 19.9MB who doesn't fit on my flash. -- what did I miss? Jan 25 12:59:46 hmm Jan 25 13:00:07 aritec: try with the oz354fam083 branch Jan 25 13:00:08 Crofton: 0.25 would be the best monotone version to use Jan 25 13:00:29 ok Jan 25 13:00:46 Now I am in "arms dealer" class Jan 25 13:03:47 zecke: I'll try - thanks Jan 25 13:03:48 * raduga now builds without -rjan2006prebreakage Jan 25 13:03:52 * raduga living dangerously Jan 25 13:04:40 aritec: you probably got all kernel modules in image Jan 25 13:13:06 hello ! Jan 25 13:13:23 hrw: rootfs/lib/modules has 1.4 MB --> seems OK | rootfs/opt/QtPalmtop has 20.3MB --> problem? Jan 25 13:13:32 i am still battling my way around... Jan 25 13:13:41 opie-reader + flite? Jan 25 13:13:44 aritec: show me rootfs/usr/lib/ipkg/status Jan 25 13:14:06 i am trying to build libxml-libxml-common-0.13 but it fails during the config stage Jan 25 13:14:21 OTE: package libxml-libxml-common-0.13: started Jan 25 13:14:21 NOTE: package libxml-libxml-common-0.13-r0: task do_fetch: started Jan 25 13:14:21 NOTE: package libxml-libxml-common-0.13-r0: task do_fetch: completed Jan 25 13:14:21 NOTE: package libxml-libxml-common-0.13-r0: task do_configure: started Jan 25 13:14:21 ERROR: function do_configure failed Jan 25 13:14:22 ERROR: see log in /home/stelios/oe/feux/build/tmp/work/libxml-libxml-common-0.13-r0/temp/log.do_configure.920 Jan 25 13:15:08 it looks like that the Makefile.pl is using trying to use the hosts ld and it fails Jan 25 13:15:27 tried to debug it -> http://pastebin.com/522835 Jan 25 13:15:36 any ideas ? Jan 25 13:16:45 hrw: I'm new to irc (shame) - how can I show you that file? -- http link? Jan 25 13:17:03 aritec: pastebin.com Jan 25 13:19:06 ok .25 connects Jan 25 13:20:17 hrw: http://pastebin.com/522851 --- thanks koen Jan 25 13:21:46 aritec: I see an error - looks like ROOT_FLASH_SIZE check failed Jan 25 13:24:48 hrw: where can you see that? Jan 25 13:25:44 aritec: collie opie-image should not get konqueror-embedded Jan 25 13:27:14 is monotone vanille working? Jan 25 13:31:37 aritec: edit packages/meta/opie-image.bb and change 24 to 16 in 'extra_stuff' line Jan 25 13:32:03 anyone know what happened to gallery? No BB dir/file that I can see... Jan 25 13:32:37 its better now Jan 25 13:33:29 hrw: already there :> extra_stuff := '${@base_conditional("ROOT_FLASH_SIZE", "16", Jan 25 13:34:12 hrw: collie.conf --> ROOT_FLASH_SIZE = "14" Jan 25 13:34:39 aritec: ok. locally change to: extra_stuff := '' Jan 25 13:34:53 aritec: I have to rewrite that part Jan 25 13:35:28 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r30edba3f... 10/packages/lcdproc/ (lcdproc_0.4.99+cvs20060123.bb lcdproc_cvs.bb): lcdproc: add cvs (HEAD) packages (fixed and floating SRCDATE) based on .bb courtesy of Matthias Goebl Jan 25 13:35:29 hrw: ok. Jan 25 13:38:10 hrw: same with gpe-image? Jan 25 13:38:32 aritec: dont know - I maintain opie-image not gpe-image Jan 25 13:38:56 ~lart irk Jan 25 13:38:57 * ibot urinates on irk Jan 25 13:39:09 good bot Jan 25 13:40:33 pb__: remind me again... the problem with module-base.bbclass was that kernel modules trying to access GPIO register were miscompiled, right? Jan 25 13:40:52 yeah, missing -march= in CFLAGS Jan 25 13:41:14 yah, just want to put an explanation in the commit message Jan 25 13:42:04 ok, I have a new current OE.db and an older db with my private branch in it Jan 25 13:42:25 I am thinking I can serve the old db and pull my branch from it? Jan 25 13:46:28 wake up monotone gurus :) Jan 25 13:47:51 Crofton: yes Jan 25 13:47:57 Crofton: (no guru though) Jan 25 13:48:04 heh Jan 25 13:48:14 I just made a copy, now I will try Jan 25 13:48:15 Crofton: 1.) do a backup Jan 25 13:48:16 03rw 07org.oe.dev * r1135bf98... 10/classes/module-base.bbclass: module-base.bbclass: fix miscompilation of out of tree kernel modules trying to access GPIO registers. make sure to bump PR on all affected .bbs. thanks to Phil for spotting. Jan 25 13:48:19 heh Jan 25 13:48:20 03rw 07org.oe.dev * re99e2142... 10/packages/alsa/alsa-driver_0.9.6-hh4c.bb: alsa-driver: bump PR due to module-base.bbclass fix. adjust DEPENDS. Jan 25 13:49:43 hrw: well done -- jffs2 14.0MB -- thanks Jan 25 13:52:31 Crofton: 2. if you only have one version of monotone Jan 25 13:52:37 lo Jan 25 13:52:38 Crofton: do a db migrate Jan 25 13:52:46 Crofton: 3. then serve this db ;) Jan 25 13:52:58 anyone want a mercurial account? Jan 25 13:53:10 Zecke: is the work on oe finished (the work announced on the wiki) Jan 25 13:53:26 most of it Jan 25 13:53:36 Zecke: coolio Jan 25 13:53:40 but I have not tested it Jan 25 13:54:04 zecke: my work on a generic distro for epia is nearly finished as well Jan 25 13:54:12 good Jan 25 13:54:30 zecke: how is your health right now ? Jan 25 13:54:43 okay... some issues... Jan 25 13:55:24 zecke : I have been sick for a while as well but I am now , I will start my new job next week Jan 25 13:56:15 gerwinin: get well and have a good start at the company Jan 25 13:56:37 zecke : I am busy now with the opie work for making it suitable for epia with keyboard , lirc and mouse Jan 25 13:57:11 re Jan 25 13:58:15 Zecke: there are some issue which I want to discuss with you but maybe it is better that I come to berlin one time to discuss with you in person Jan 25 13:59:20 raduga: hehe Jan 25 13:59:26 gerwinin: what kind of issue? Jan 25 13:59:43 raduga: mercurial/hg is a scm system Jan 25 13:59:57 zecke: I rewrote some part of the menu and want to see if you like it Jan 25 14:00:22 gerwinin: it can only get better Jan 25 14:02:52 Zecke I will hail france one more time to set up a project page Jan 25 14:04:12 hmm, I have a priv key in my old database Jan 25 14:04:22 I think I need to copy it to the new one? Jan 25 14:04:49 Crofton: with mnt 0.25 the keys are stored in the .monotone/ directory Jan 25 14:05:03 Crofton: you could copy your db and do a db migrate on it Jan 25 14:05:12 Crofton: yoiur keys would automatically get copied... Jan 25 14:06:08 ah Jan 25 14:06:09 thanks Jan 25 14:06:16 and make a backup :) Jan 25 14:11:08 hrw: pong Jan 25 14:12:14 RP: I was thinking about post on openzaurus.org about current 2.6 kernel status on zaurus machines. Users know that we have it, asks why no 2.6 for cxx00 in 3.5.4 etc. Jan 25 14:13:07 hrw: We can tell them it comes in 3.5.4.1 for cxx00 Jan 25 14:13:14 (and c7x0 get 2.6.15) Jan 25 14:13:15 RP: oh yeah, good idea :) Jan 25 14:13:31 hrw: I'm fine with posting that Jan 25 14:14:11 RP: I know but I was thinking about summary of all machines - info that poodle is not maintained/checked, collie is outside of OZ/OE team, info what works on tosa etc. Jan 25 14:14:43 or just in the wiki ? Jan 25 14:14:58 obergix[home]: no wiki Jan 25 14:15:11 hrw: Yes, it'd be good to put them in the picture (You saw my post to oz-users today?) Jan 25 14:15:32 RP: yes Jan 25 14:15:35 hrw: lets squatt the oe one ;) Jan 25 14:15:54 obergix[home]: how many OZ users read it? Jan 25 14:16:02 anyway not many OZ users read oz.org too ;) Jan 25 14:16:27 * Necronom considers joinging oz-users Jan 25 14:16:38 hrw: I did talk to cedric today and he's going to try and test the current position of 2.6 poodle for us Jan 25 14:16:43 hrw: all that use google, I suppose ? Jan 25 14:16:45 but response to 3.5.4 test program was big Jan 25 14:16:52 RP: great Jan 25 14:18:00 hrw: I think we could gain a lot of happy users with the 3.5.4 release :) Jan 25 14:18:07 uf.. irk situation cleared. no more 'I cannot install irk' - now its irk-targus/irk-belkin Jan 25 14:18:22 RP: yep. Jan 25 14:18:42 RP: but we need to finally give them cross-sdk too Jan 25 14:19:00 hrw: Yes, that would be good Jan 25 14:19:21 and I need to send my card to rmk.... when card will work I could work on getting native sdk working Jan 25 14:19:36 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb19e0996... 10/packages/irk/ (irk_0.11.bb irk-targus_0.11.0.bb irk.inc irk-belkin_0.11.bb): Jan 25 14:19:36 irk: cleaned build of it Jan 25 14:19:36 - moved common code to irk.inc Jan 25 14:19:36 - irk renamed to irk-targus (as it handle Pocketop and Targus keyboard) Jan 25 14:19:36 - irk-targus and irk-belkin both conflicts/replaces each other Jan 25 14:19:49 hrw: I am aiming to make sdk development easier within OE (by packaging staging). Just need the time... Jan 25 14:20:03 we have all those -dev packages.. but who know what to install to build 'hello world' C app? Jan 25 14:20:08 ok some good came of arms dealer training Jan 25 14:20:36 hrw: We should create some task-dev-c packages and similar Jan 25 14:20:44 RP: look into pdaX part of oesf - 'I build/packaged this, that, those tools, those games - enjoy' - we lack that kind of things Jan 25 14:21:18 hrw: We'll get there. We have the infastructure :) Jan 25 14:21:20 RP: if someone want to build something for OZ we say: add it into OE so it will be in next OZ release Jan 25 14:21:54 hrw: I know. meta-sdk should help, as should building some good task packages Jan 25 14:21:57 RP: which means: go away Jan 25 14:24:06 winner of free software award announced... good news Jan 25 14:24:55 Andrew "Tridge" Tridgell, samba, bitkeeper rev engineering, etc. Jan 25 14:25:45 RP: bug #547 (akita resume problem under 2.6) still apply? Jan 25 14:27:04 hrw: would have liked to test, but my bitbake won't work :( Jan 25 14:27:16 in .dev, I mean Jan 25 14:27:41 * aritec is back Jan 25 14:28:20 http://www.alwins-world.de:1180/hg/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi Jan 25 14:30:18 hrw: Its fixed - I've marked it as such Jan 25 14:32:06 ok. enough bugtracker for today Jan 25 14:32:44 RP: cool Jan 25 14:36:01 time to cleanup my OE tree.. Jan 25 14:36:15 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rd72d491a... 10/packages/irk/ (irk_0.11.bb irk-targus_0.11.0.bb irk.inc irk-belkin_0.11.bb): Jan 25 14:36:15 irk: cleaned build of it Jan 25 14:36:15 - moved common code to irk.inc Jan 25 14:36:15 - irk renamed to irk-targus (as it handle Pocketop and Targus keyboard) Jan 25 14:36:15 - irk-targus and irk-belkin both conflicts/replaces each other Jan 25 14:36:17 taken from .dev Jan 25 14:40:30 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r1c656337... 10/packages/bluez/ (3 files in 3 dirs): bluez-utils-dbus: move patch to make it usable for 2.25 Jan 25 14:43:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb8a8ab51... 10/packages/fortune-mod/fortune-mod_1.99.1.bb: fortune-mod: added 'recode' to DEPENDS - it needs normal and native one Jan 25 14:44:20 Okay mercurial now served! Jan 25 14:45:10 Jan 25 14:45:48 nwb Crofton Jan 25 14:46:51 hi Jan 25 14:47:42 hmmm Jan 25 14:47:49 broke your stuff? Jan 25 14:47:57 I need to pull changes from dev to my local branch Jan 25 14:48:02 well things are building Jan 25 14:48:17 but now I think it is because I have already fetched every thing ... Jan 25 14:48:28 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r38811a33... 10/packages/bluez/ (3 files): bluez: add 2.25 Jan 25 14:55:51 now I am trying to propagte dev to my local branch, but I got a misuse unabel to resolve file conflict on a nslu2 kernel file Jan 25 15:00:18 Anyone have any ideas how to get past this: http://pastebin.ca/38603 Jan 25 15:01:16 no :( Jan 25 15:01:22 bother Jan 25 15:01:24 no meld, kdiff3 is opening? Jan 25 15:01:28 nope Jan 25 15:01:43 no complaining it can't find them either Jan 25 15:01:46 do you have a windowing system running? Jan 25 15:01:56 what is really anoyying is I don't touch this file in the branch Jan 25 15:01:59 yep Jan 25 15:02:05 export VISUAL=vim;monotone merge Jan 25 15:02:10 I ran from real xterm to be sure Jan 25 15:02:37 hmm Jan 25 15:02:55 do I need to run this in my checked out branch? Jan 25 15:03:37 I think not Jan 25 15:03:57 I need to tell it branch info, i am in monotne manual now Jan 25 15:04:42 Hrm. Jan 25 15:04:43 [jack@ice:scripts]$ host http://bugs.openembedded.org/ Jan 25 15:04:43 Host http://bugs.openembedded.org/ not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Jan 25 15:05:10 Necronom: isn't the topic saying something? Jan 25 15:05:30 trying 'host bugs.openembedded.org' would be better probably Jan 25 15:05:31 * CosmicPenguin supports permanent bans for the next person to mention that Jan 25 15:05:39 Aha. My window is only 240 chars wide. :) Jan 25 15:06:32 Crofton: is org.openembedded.mprg in the OE.db ? Jan 25 15:06:59 i pulled it from and older db of mine Jan 25 15:07:16 merge claims all the branches are merged Jan 25 15:07:30 I suspect that the files do not have a common ancester. Jan 25 15:08:10 hmmm Jan 25 15:08:15 it used to work Jan 25 15:08:33 my branch contains mostly mods, and some new files Jan 25 15:09:51 how can I inspect ancestors? Jan 25 15:12:12 mhh this message --> ERROR: dependency (2.6.13-hh1) (for hostap-modules) not satisfied <-- mean no one provide versione 2.6.23-hh1 for package hostap-modules ? Jan 25 15:13:32 no, I think that means you have a bogus entry in your DEPENDS. Jan 25 15:14:07 Crofton; you have questions better posed to the gurus in #montone on irc.oftc.net. :) Jan 25 15:14:16 s/montone/monotone/ Jan 25 15:14:17 Necronom meant: Crofton; you have questions better posed to the gurus in #monotone on irc.oftc.net. :) Jan 25 15:14:34 ~botsnack Jan 25 15:14:35 Necronom: thanks Jan 25 15:15:43 pb__ explain 'bogus' ... and i think is in oe ... i didn't touch :( Jan 25 15:16:44 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r9e4f1b71... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ttf-sazanami_20040629.bb: ttf-sazanami: add japanese truetype fonts Jan 25 15:17:12 http://www.alwins-world.de:1180/darcs/cgi-bin/darcsweb.cgi Jan 25 15:18:11 gremlin[it]: erroneous, spurious, incorrect, or wrong Jan 25 15:19:10 pb__: did you merge yet? Jan 25 15:19:13 what does "bitbake -c showdata -b hostap-modules.bb |grep ^DEPENDS" say? Jan 25 15:19:15 zecke: not actually Jan 25 15:19:25 zecke: I suck Jan 25 15:19:39 pb__ nothing :( Jan 25 15:19:45 pb__: your completely halting the progress of OE Jan 25 15:19:49 zecke: drat Jan 25 15:19:53 my mistake ... wait :) Jan 25 15:20:06 zecke: let me erase my broken trees and try again Jan 25 15:20:38 darcweb is completely stalling this server Jan 25 15:20:41 _alwin_: ping! Jan 25 15:20:54 * pb__ rm -rf my-lovely-git Jan 25 15:20:57 gremlin[it]: I still believe you're using an old bitbake version. did you install to /usr/local once and forget to update this one to newest svn? Jan 25 15:21:31 the problem are most likely the rdepends, which look like this here: RDEPENDS="kernel (2.6.13-hh1)" Jan 25 15:22:20 pH5: in the source files? that doesn't sound right. Jan 25 15:22:33 pb__: no, the output of showdata Jan 25 15:22:42 oh, right Jan 25 15:22:54 pH5 i did svn update and after setup.py bdist_rpm, then rpm -Uvh --force bitbake.rpm Jan 25 15:25:36 pb__ well hostap-modules_0.4.4 --> DEPENDS="ipkg-utils-native quilt-native virtual/arm-linux-gcc virtual/libc virtual/kernel" Jan 25 15:25:53 that all looks fine Jan 25 15:26:03 so I guess pH5 is right, your problem must lie in the DEPENDS inferrence code Jan 25 15:26:17 cu - have a good night/evening/day/etc Jan 25 15:26:46 ok so how i can check if bitbake is cottectly installed ? Jan 25 15:27:04 i try to uninstall all and delete all *bitbake* things in /usr Jan 25 15:27:13 and then install ... Jan 25 15:27:18 but nothing change :( Jan 25 15:27:48 gremlin[it]: Are you sure that's the latest bitbake? It should completely ignore anything in RDEPENDS in brackets like that Jan 25 15:28:08 pb__ hostap-modules_0.4.4 --> RDEPENDS_hostap-modules-pci="hostap-modules" Jan 25 15:28:09 RDEPENDS_hostap-modules-cs="hostap-modules" Jan 25 15:28:09 RDEPENDS="kernel (2.6.13-hh1)" Jan 25 15:29:00 svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake U bitbake/lib/bb/parse/parse_py/ConfHandler.py Jan 25 15:29:01 Checked out revision 337. Jan 25 15:29:14 i'm sure now i'm running 336 Jan 25 15:29:30 hi people. who is the maintainer of blueprobe? Jan 25 15:29:40 gremlin[it]: Compare the utils.py between them - there should be an explode_deps Jan 25 15:29:55 (its in lib/bb/) Jan 25 15:32:59 RP gotcha !!!! Jan 25 15:33:26 but this mean ./setup.py bdist_rpm don't work good ;( ... Jan 25 15:35:21 gremlin[it]: it used to work some revs ago Jan 25 15:35:41 yes .. the utils.py present in the .rpm created by ./setup.py don't contain explode_deps Jan 25 15:35:59 zecke i know i used them about since begin ... Jan 25 15:36:18 gremlin[it]: I didn't follow it, but what is broken? Jan 25 15:37:06 found ... in the souce bitbake dir exist 2 utils.py ./lib/bb/utils.py ./bitbake/lib/bb/utils.py Jan 25 15:37:23 the first seem to be old and seem the one include in the .rpm Jan 25 15:37:35 the latter (./bitbake/lib/bb/utils.py) is the new one ... Jan 25 15:39:18 mhhhh seem i have bitbake/bitbake ... something was bad during an update :( ... Jan 25 15:39:53 "svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/trunk/bitbake" ... should be run inside bitbake dir or outside ? Jan 25 15:39:55 anyone want an account for darcs or mercurial? Jan 25 15:40:02 if so mail me your key Jan 25 15:40:13 (preferable priv+public+mantra) Jan 25 15:41:03 zecke: and presumably our credit card details as well, for extra authentication Jan 25 15:41:21 pb__: paypal accounts are fine as well Jan 25 15:41:31 excellent Jan 25 15:42:14 don't forget mothers maiden name :-D Jan 25 15:42:50 * Crofton is hating monotone right now Jan 25 15:42:51 LoDown: why duplicate information? I think my data mining database already has this information Jan 25 15:43:03 my problem is likely something stupid I did in the past Jan 25 15:43:04 zecke: very nice Jan 25 15:43:09 now is a pain to clean up Jan 25 15:43:20 Crofton: :( Jan 25 15:43:22 Crofton; that's what my parents keep telling me. Jan 25 15:43:29 France ping Jan 25 15:43:30 heh Jan 25 15:43:36 Necronom: hehe Jan 25 15:44:02 * Necronom would be interested in formal/informal RCS benchmarks. Jan 25 15:44:11 I have a bunch of bad file names, and I have to rename them one at at time Jan 25 15:45:19 The only problems that I've had with renames and propagates are attributes. Jan 25 15:45:25 Which are easy enough to ignore. Jan 25 15:45:42 (and incidently a feature of the rosters representation, so .mt-attrs goes away) Jan 25 15:45:46 I think I botched a propogate and Jan 25 15:45:47 "One thing I have to say is that I've learnt a lot more shell tricks. Now I'll just have to unlearn them, so I won't have nightmares." --Linus (Re: git) Jan 25 15:45:50 Necronom: RCS is what? Jan 25 15:46:07 ended up with some old file names Jan 25 15:46:24 ok thinkg now work !!!!!!!!!!! Jan 25 15:46:29 * obergix[home] is away: updating OpenZaurus Jan 25 15:46:31 I'm not entirely certain how this happened since I ahven't touched the files in question Jan 25 15:46:34 kergoth: hehe... I think I already have a love and hate relationship with git Jan 25 15:47:10 get used to that feeling Jan 25 15:47:21 zecke: revision control systems Jan 25 15:47:46 Necronom: I will write up my experience on the ones I have setup already Jan 25 15:48:02 Necronom: all have their good sides... Jan 25 15:48:23 Necronom: git the most advancing system but it feels hacky specially on merging Jan 25 15:49:51 zecke: I think I have merged now Jan 25 15:49:59 not quite sure how to tell for sure Jan 25 15:50:09 pb__: git log Jan 25 15:50:25 commit 80b9db3014d807fcd42d9177f54d3caec1472e0f Jan 25 15:50:25 Merge: 9a99e7e837161220ad8cc13e7ef4b9852053c8cb 038c8230f3c8a9cb70f9e32d3530ca89Author: Philip Blundell Jan 25 15:50:27 is that good? Jan 25 15:50:45 pb__: the number looks odd Jan 25 15:50:53 pb__: well push now Jan 25 15:50:58 yah, I did that already Jan 25 15:51:18 it said some stuff about packing, unpacking, and refs/head/master Jan 25 15:51:26 http://oegit.rpsys.net:8000/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=.git;a=commit;h=80b9db3014d807fcd42d9177f54d3caec1472e0f Jan 25 15:51:31 and a lot of mysterious hex numbers Jan 25 15:51:41 now switch the branch Jan 25 15:51:48 and merge oz354fam083 as well please Jan 25 15:52:05 okay Jan 25 15:52:17 how do I switch branches? Jan 25 15:52:21 kergoth: git is a love hate relationship... Jan 25 15:52:46 pb__: git checkout oz354fam083 Jan 25 15:52:56 git is a love/hate relationship with the other person wearing leather and cracking a whip all day long Jan 25 15:53:03 okay Jan 25 15:53:22 pb__: a branch seems a symbolic name for a revision which automatically updates ;) Jan 25 15:53:22 * Crofton is pulling for svn-svk, but only because I am good at svn :) Jan 25 15:54:02 okay Jan 25 15:54:05 there we go, I guess Jan 25 15:54:18 * zecke considers getting a MACBookPro... so canossa path back to Intel Jan 25 15:54:35 pb__: well and merge the right upstream data please ;) Jan 25 15:54:51 zecke: Did you create the rpsys head? Jan 25 15:54:52 (if not we can easily fix it up by add a -f to the checkout line) Jan 25 15:54:56 * pb__ looks blank Jan 25 15:55:00 zecke: what is the right upstream data? Jan 25 15:55:14 or, for the matter, what is the upstream data at all? Jan 25 15:55:27 pb__: http://whatever ;) Jan 25 15:55:33 ah Jan 25 15:55:36 did I get that wrong? Jan 25 15:55:48 pb__: but in the context of oz354fam083 the right ewi upstream is Jan 25 15:56:05 pb__: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/other_scms/git/org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Jan 25 15:56:10 yeah, that's the one I used Jan 25 15:56:17 good Jan 25 15:56:25 good night and thanks for help pb__ RP pH5 Jan 25 15:56:38 gremlin[it]: np, pleased you found the problem Jan 25 15:57:02 pb__: well done ;) Jan 25 15:57:10 pb__: now you could play with cherry-pick Jan 25 15:57:22 mote the the right command, where u have to do them :) Jan 25 15:57:42 more then the right command, ... Jan 25 15:57:50 zecke: maybe later, I feel a little queasy after that experience Jan 25 15:58:02 pb__: hehe, take care I need to work as well Jan 25 15:58:15 hehe Jan 25 15:58:16 2 more minutes and I'm 23 years old *old* Jan 25 15:58:20 ! Jan 25 15:58:22 yay Jan 25 15:58:37 zecke: crumbs, so old Jan 25 15:58:41 zecke !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jan 25 15:58:52 maybe with 23 I might join a secret underground organisation Jan 25 15:59:10 I think that's almost obligatory Jan 25 15:59:19 ok Jan 25 15:59:21 I think I was 23 when I joined OH :) Jan 25 15:59:29 now I have the merge window up Jan 25 15:59:39 RP: how old are you now? Jan 25 15:59:49 zecke: 24 Jan 25 15:59:52 what do I do? besides make it go away Jan 25 16:00:11 RP: I had hoped you were older :} Jan 25 16:00:12 I am in an underground organization already :) Jan 25 16:00:19 www.vpicaveclub.org Jan 25 16:00:28 you are all punks :) Jan 25 16:00:38 Crofton: hehe Jan 25 16:00:41 zecke: why? Jan 25 16:00:50 Crofton: I might join the german dec user group Jan 25 16:00:59 I have a left window and a right window and some arrows Jan 25 16:01:00 RP: well you are finished with a master in physics right? Jan 25 16:01:01 zecke: I'll soon be 25 if that helps? :) Jan 25 16:01:06 *yeah* Jan 25 16:01:10 how do I merge so this works in the future? Jan 25 16:01:16 zecke: correct Jan 25 16:01:39 RP: hehe I have nothing and more years to go ;) Jan 25 16:02:32 RP: don't take me too serioulsy Jan 25 16:02:40 .-'"'-. Jan 25 16:02:40 / # \ Jan 25 16:02:40 : # : .-'"'-. Jan 25 16:02:40 \ / / # \ Jan 25 16:02:40 \ / : # : Jan 25 16:02:41 jgs `'q'` \ / Jan 25 16:02:42 ( \ / Jan 25 16:02:44 ) `'p'` Jan 25 16:02:46 ( ) Jan 25 16:02:48 ) ( Jan 25 16:02:50 ) Jan 25 16:02:52 happy birthday zecke Jan 25 16:02:56 health, money, chicks, and everything you need Jan 25 16:02:57 lovely :) Jan 25 16:03:01 *smile* Jan 25 16:03:02 zecke: I could depress you by telling you I was 22 when I graduated ;-) Jan 25 16:03:16 zecke: but instead I'll say happy birthday :) Jan 25 16:03:16 RP: I was 21 when I finished high school Jan 25 16:03:23 I was 22 when I graduated the first time Jan 25 16:03:47 I was three when I joined kindergarten *bah* Jan 25 16:04:07 mickey|dinner: thank you, that was really nice Jan 25 16:04:32 zecke: i hope you have time to celebrate it tomorrow? Jan 25 16:05:13 mickey|dinner : I might talk my boss into buying me a) a Dual AMD64 b) dual Xeon or c) MacBookPro *hopes* Jan 25 16:05:22 mickey|dinner: but sadly I have my first lecture at 8:30 Jan 25 16:05:33 excellent (a to c, not 8:30 :)) Jan 25 16:06:25 mickey|dinner: well... I hope he gives in Jan 25 16:06:47 mickey|dinner: I hope I get that book about Death March projects Jan 25 16:08:16 zecke: I hope he does give in. Big machines are nice. We need a parallel bitbake though ;-) Jan 25 16:10:47 * pb__ zzzz Jan 25 16:10:49 night night Jan 25 16:10:53 g'night pb_ Jan 25 16:10:55 good idea btw. Jan 25 16:10:59 zecke: enjoy your twilight years Jan 25 16:11:02 g'night Jan 25 16:11:33 pb__: cya Jan 25 16:15:05 zecke: my birthday too! But add 1 to your age, then reverse the digits! Jan 25 16:15:24 congrats ;) Jan 25 16:17:06 happy birthday, zecke! Jan 25 16:17:11 happy birthday, dude__! Jan 25 16:17:30 ipkg upgrade developpers Jan 25 16:43:31 yayyy, zecke! Jan 25 16:59:10 okay good nite then Jan 25 17:07:30 * Stephmw starts playing with his NewAndShiny NSLU2... Jan 25 17:14:47 zecke, whats the current version of bitbake? Jan 25 17:14:55 I have r321 Jan 25 17:15:08 last changed by zecke123 :) Jan 25 18:42:04 nslu2-linux has a booth at SCALE (http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/exhibitions/sblug.php). Jan 25 18:42:23 Would anyone have any objections to us putting an OpenEmbedded logo on our banner in the booth? Jan 25 18:44:49 I don't, but then again I'm not a good person to ask :) Jan 25 18:45:31 I suspect most of the people who might possibly care are in bed by now :) Jan 25 19:58:44 hmm the dropbear server has dropped of the earth Jan 25 21:54:43 hello. Jan 25 21:55:01 hello Jan 25 21:55:22 i used to have a zaurus 5500 Jan 25 21:55:25 im glad to have gotten rid of it Jan 25 21:55:35 congratulations Jan 25 21:55:37 i always wanted one of those clam shells Jan 25 21:55:38 no no Jan 25 21:55:40 the story continues Jan 25 21:55:46 now i have a fujitsu tablet pc Jan 25 21:56:11 but you see, ive been searching for something similar to windows journal Jan 25 21:56:19 any ideas? Jan 25 21:56:39 * johnX is googling "windows journal" Jan 25 21:56:55 goodluck, Jan 25 21:57:54 johnX, which zaurii do you own Jan 25 21:58:07 a C1000 and a 5500 Jan 25 21:58:14 nice Jan 25 21:58:23 what do you develop on it these days Jan 25 21:58:50 I may be sitting here in the developers' channel but it's more to gleam information from them Jan 25 21:59:32 s/gleam/glean Jan 25 21:59:48 so what do you use it for then Jan 25 22:00:59 I use it like a little laptop, web surfing, mail, games, ssh'ing to other linux machines Jan 25 22:01:42 gentoo? Jan 25 22:02:03 openzaurus/GPE with quite a few applications compiled myself from OE Jan 25 22:02:21 hence why I hang out in #oe to bug the devs when something doesn't work :) Jan 25 22:03:43 nah, the other machines Jan 25 22:04:00 on my desktops? debian or ubuntu Jan 25 22:04:06 I even have something running BeOS Jan 25 22:08:01 woo! Jan 25 22:08:11 just got absolute movement on my tablet going =p Jan 25 22:08:39 which version of X are you using? Jan 25 22:08:43 800mhz, 256mb, 30GB, Gentoo suspend2 Jan 25 22:08:44 xorg Jan 25 22:08:56 latest Jan 25 22:09:28 i can see where the digitizer is wearing out on the top right corner. i hear thats where the cpu is. Jan 25 22:13:34 i have alot of respect of oz tho. just wished i had a clamshell cuz that 320x240 was just too small for me Jan 25 22:14:26 yeah, the form factor of the 5500 is really nice for a PDA type thing, but the clam shells are so much more flexible as a more general purpose computer Jan 25 22:15:12 the (C1000 | 3000 | 3100) is kind of a brick though Jan 25 22:15:19 it is not exactly small Jan 25 22:15:54 whats the battery life like? Jan 25 22:16:20 depends on whether you're using wifi or not Jan 25 22:16:44 no wifi: at least as much as the 5500, prolly a little more with the backlight not set all the way up Jan 25 22:17:12 wifi: maybe a little more than 2 hours, as long as you're not transferring the whole time Jan 25 22:17:53 I think with a constant transfer going and brightness all the way up, while doing something to peg out the CPU you could probably drain the battery in an hour or less Jan 25 22:18:43 i see Jan 25 22:19:43 I've never actually killed the battery all the way, now that I think about it Jan 25 22:20:09 might be healthy though Jan 25 22:39:45 http://web.archive.org/web/20040122001859/www.gtk.org/~otaylor/gsumi/ Jan 25 22:39:46 phew. Jan 25 22:40:10 i suppose archive.org isnt needed. Jan 25 22:41:26 interesting Jan 25 23:36:00 good morning. Jan 26 00:38:22 good morning Jan 26 01:31:45 Goodmorning all ! Jan 26 01:40:48 morning Jan 26 01:41:02 morning XorA Ifaistos Jan 26 01:54:53 for perl modules that create libs which is the best way to go ? Jan 26 01:55:06 do an inherit cpan or write install code ? Jan 26 01:55:36 i am having trouble to get libxml-common to get going.... Jan 26 01:56:27 it's using makebuilder and tries to verify that libxml2 exists by building a module Jan 26 01:56:50 which fails as its trying to use the hosts ld.... Jan 26 01:57:17 i am scratching my head for a couple of days with this... as perl is not my strong point... Jan 26 02:08:29 morning Jan 26 02:33:33 morning Jan 26 02:40:18 hi Jan 26 02:43:52 hi Jan 26 02:47:27 hi pH5 Jan 26 02:52:13 morning all Jan 26 02:52:55 'mornin Jan 26 02:54:00 hi RP Jan 26 02:59:49 slightly off topic, what strength/type keys do folks use for ssh atm ? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 26 02:59:57 2006