**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 07 10:59:57 2006 Feb 07 11:00:11 brb Feb 07 11:00:47 I think we disable that for arm as well? Feb 07 11:02:07 RP: can ext2.gz images produced be mounted over the loop ? Feb 07 11:02:31 Ifaistos: Yes Feb 07 11:03:21 RP: strange.... this is what i get Feb 07 11:03:25 stelios@Athena:~/oe/x86/build/tmp/deploy/images$ sudo mount -o loop -t ext2 owmnr-base-x86_200602071228.rootfs.ext2.gz /mnt Feb 07 11:03:25 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop1, Feb 07 11:03:25 missing codepage or other error Feb 07 11:03:25 In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try Feb 07 11:03:25 dmesg | tail or so Feb 07 11:03:55 and dmesg says... [787145.062545] VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev loop1. Feb 07 11:03:56 [787209.380187] VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev loop1. Feb 07 11:04:30 Ifaistos: gunzip it first ;-) Feb 07 11:05:10 RP: I thought it was allready gzip Feb 07 11:05:46 It is gziped and you can't mount a gziped image Feb 07 11:06:30 RP: Yes silly of me. i though its was bzip2 Feb 07 11:06:59 RP: I get 3 images jffs2, bzip and gz Feb 07 11:14:32 RP: init can't find uclibc.... Feb 07 11:14:36 RP: stelios@Athena:~/oe/x86/build/tmp/deploy/images$ sudo chroot /mnt Feb 07 11:14:36 /bin/bash: Can't resolve symbol '__uClibc_start_main' Feb 07 11:15:57 re Feb 07 11:17:56 morning all Feb 07 11:18:58 RP: do the microdrive models fsck the disk on boot? Feb 07 11:21:32 XorA: Not yet as I don't think we mount ro. They use ext3 which helps though Feb 07 11:21:35 hi do13_ Feb 07 11:22:16 Ifaistos: That's strange. You might want to talk to the slug developers as they have uclibc working iirc Feb 07 11:23:19 RP: I think some of the apps are compiled against uclibc 0.9.26 and others i build later agains 0.9.28.... Feb 07 11:23:46 RP: I made a chnage to local.conf.... but thought it will rebuild all Feb 07 11:23:56 hi Richard Feb 07 11:25:10 Ifaistos: There are some changes you have to wipe tmp/ for Feb 07 11:25:24 good morning Feb 07 11:38:55 anyone knows a good svn troubleshooting guide? I'm trying to download tremor (for oz354 branch) and svn always fails, without any message. This is on mandriva Feb 07 11:53:55 Bernardo: Are you able to pull bitbake via svn? Feb 07 11:54:33 yes Feb 07 11:54:56 Hmm.. sounds like it'd be the tremor SVN server that's down then.. check their homepage? Feb 07 11:55:02 my problem is tremor when I try to build meta-opie Feb 07 11:55:24 no - I'll check Feb 07 11:55:26 NAbyss: thanks Feb 07 12:01:21 hey Feb 07 12:01:26 NAbyss: still seems to be up and running... at least http://svn.xiph.org/trunk/Tremor/ is browseable Feb 07 12:01:28 hi zecke Feb 07 12:01:31 hi zecke Feb 07 12:01:35 Bernardo: Hmm, no idea then Feb 07 12:02:09 I'll try again tonight Feb 07 12:02:20 too bad here I work I can't do much to check Feb 07 12:04:50 I'd like to at least be able to provide a akita image Feb 07 12:05:08 akita.. that's c3000? Feb 07 12:05:15 c1000 Feb 07 12:06:03 koen: hm.. I have altboot on collie.. so can drop to sh ;) Feb 07 12:06:14 ahh Feb 07 12:17:45 Checked out revision 4573. Feb 07 12:17:45 NOTE: package tremor-20041119-r1: task do_fetch: completed Feb 07 12:17:54 Bernardo: just fetched from svn Feb 07 12:20:03 hrw|work: ok, I'll check when I get home Feb 07 12:20:16 I have been trying since sunday afternoon Feb 07 12:20:31 first from the cvs.tarball.stash Feb 07 12:20:37 then from subversion Feb 07 12:20:40 <_guillermo> I get an error with this within: arm-linux-gcc not found Feb 07 12:20:47 <_guillermo> what's the problem? Feb 07 12:21:07 Bernardo: try to use familiar.handhelds.org ftp as cvs.tarball stash - koen put all used source there iirc Feb 07 12:21:19 _guillermo: what you did that you got it? Feb 07 12:21:24 hrw|work: thanks. Is that on the wiki? Feb 07 12:21:42 Bernardo: no and rather should not be probably Feb 07 12:21:51 <_guillermo> hrw|work: I get it as soon as I compile something for ipaq 3900, but not for my akita Feb 07 12:22:27 _guillermo: machine/distro & bitbake command please Feb 07 12:23:36 <_guillermo> h3900/ familiar-0.8.3, bitbake 1.3.2 Feb 07 12:25:28 <_guillermo> I have arm-linux-gcc-2.95 , but I don't know why that worked with the akita but not with the ipaq Feb 07 12:25:48 _guillermo: which exactly command you tried? "bitbake umbaumba"? Feb 07 12:26:20 <_guillermo> yes, but after setting up the path Feb 07 12:27:25 sorry my glassball is in service repair. Feb 07 12:27:42 <_guillermo> I read so Feb 07 12:27:49 hrw|work: tarrot crds are much more damage resistant Feb 07 12:28:00 <_guillermo> I guess a symlink will do for now Feb 07 12:29:47 XorA: I always preferred glassball. tried tea leaves but I mostly drink express tea.. Feb 07 12:31:00 * XorA shudders at express tea Feb 07 12:31:25 angol.. Feb 07 12:32:25 * XorA has to bring his own decent tea into work Feb 07 12:32:51 XorA: we can order any available at store Feb 07 12:34:54 <_guillermo> hrw|work: after the symlink, still doesnt work. now I get: arm-linux-gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations Feb 07 12:35:28 _guillermo: as I wrote: my glassball is in service repair. Feb 07 12:35:36 <_guillermo> ok ok Feb 07 12:35:48 _guillermo: without cmdline which you use I cannot help Feb 07 12:35:49 throw out TMP and try again Feb 07 12:35:54 best way Feb 07 12:36:44 _guillermo: your questions currently look like "why it gives me red line?" without telling that command was "make this line in blue" Feb 07 12:37:14 someone know a tool which will show which process use most of i/o? Feb 07 12:37:41 <_guillermo> hrw|work: excuse me. What I say is: I try: bitbake x ----> I get : errors bla bla arm-linux-gcc not found Feb 07 12:38:20 <_guillermo> I have a arm-linux-gcc-2.95 in my PATH, and I didn't know why it was not used Feb 07 12:38:35 _guillermo: 2.95 is only for 2.4-crapix zaurus kernels Feb 07 12:38:39 ~zauruskernels Feb 07 12:38:41 [zauruskernels] By default Zaurus use 2.4.18 or 2.4.20 and you need GCC 2.95.3 to compile them - all is described in OE wiki: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels There is also work on 2.6: http://openembedded.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ZaurusKernels26 Feb 07 12:38:50 2.6 is nice. Feb 07 12:38:58 * france is back (gone 06:17:14) Feb 07 12:39:03 NAbyss: not on my collie Feb 07 12:39:08 hrw|work: really? Feb 07 12:39:14 ~lart me for being a mong Feb 07 12:39:14 * ibot takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down xora's throat until xora puts on 150lbs for being a mong Feb 07 12:39:15 NAbyss: yes Feb 07 12:39:26 <_guillermo> but I don't underdstand. I have compiled 2.6 kernel for my akita, what arm-linux-gcc is it using? Feb 07 12:39:26 hrw|work: What's it do? Feb 07 12:39:48 NAbyss: collie lose sd/mmc support (no docs), lose usbclient (no strongarm implementation) Feb 07 12:39:55 ahh Feb 07 12:40:13 NAbyss: so user has pda with cf, 14.4M rootfs and serial port Feb 07 12:40:35 nfs over slip! Feb 07 12:40:46 hrw|work: sounds like a 3630 to me ;) Feb 07 12:40:55 hrw|work: That's gotta suck Feb 07 12:41:20 koen: nfs over cf wifi, shurely Feb 07 12:41:31 ade|desk: Now that's just masochism Feb 07 12:41:32 s/shurely/surely Feb 07 12:41:33 ade|desk: but 3630 does not have more Feb 07 12:41:54 still useable Feb 07 12:42:31 hrw|work: is everything collie wise working except those two points? Feb 07 12:42:48 XorA: dont know - did not trace 2.6 on it Feb 07 12:43:01 XorA: charging not done yet iirc Feb 07 12:43:08 hrw|work: if its that close, it would be worth the couple of hours for an image just to tempt people Feb 07 12:43:29 XorA: first we will need linux-openzaurus-collie_git.bb Feb 07 12:43:49 hrw|work: sd on collie 2.6 should be possible Feb 07 12:43:57 ~locomo Feb 07 12:43:59 from memory, locomo is a completely undocumented chip in the Sharp Zaurus Feb 07 12:44:10 hrw|work: http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/temp/collie1.txt Feb 07 12:44:31 do13_: o... Feb 07 12:44:58 do13_: Theres a lot of work in doing it that way :-/ Feb 07 12:45:02 * ade|desk dreams of the day SCR 1 is not an unknown Feb 07 12:45:06 hrw|work: last year I played with IDA PRO. Feb 07 12:45:31 do13_: arm deasm? Feb 07 12:45:39 hrw|work: yeap Feb 07 12:45:53 hardcore way Feb 07 12:46:10 a bit like aticore :-/ Feb 07 12:46:13 kergoth has the docs Feb 07 12:46:30 hrw|work: Yeah. I have basic understand how the SPI works. Feb 07 12:46:50 koen: But he can't share it :-/ Feb 07 12:47:15 do13_: but can talk about it Feb 07 12:47:42 ade|desk: ok. But first I'll finish the tosa port Feb 07 12:48:02 good plan Feb 07 12:48:36 hrw|work: We bought IDA PRO last year at work and I was looking at a good example:) Feb 07 12:50:27 * france is away: Away Feb 07 12:50:43 RP: Did you played with kexec? Feb 07 12:51:11 do13_: Not yet... Feb 07 12:51:35 do13_: ;) Feb 07 12:52:10 RP: I did it a few days ago. It's funny. I can boot into 2.4 crapix from 2.6. This make kernel testing easier Feb 07 12:53:21 do13_: Sounds good. Its on my todo list to get it into OE Feb 07 12:54:09 i hate it when customers decide to change product release dates :/ Feb 07 12:54:47 RP: Add this into kernel patch series: http://www.do13.de/oz/patches/kexec-arm-r0.patch Feb 07 12:55:25 RP: After work I'll send you the kexec-tools.bb file Feb 07 12:55:42 someone send it already to oz-devel or oeml Feb 07 12:56:31 Yes. These are the same patches. Feb 07 12:56:37 kexec sounds interesting, I could boot crappix pdaXrom or Cacko roms on my Z without any interference Feb 07 12:57:20 Yes thats possible. Feb 07 12:57:56 kexec needs only an patched 2.6 kernel. After that you can load other kernel images. Feb 07 12:58:07 do13_: as my / is on SD, my internal flash could be crappix based Feb 07 12:58:41 XorA: I did this yesterday on my tosa :) Feb 07 12:59:31 XorA: http://www.do13.de/openzaurus/temp/start24.txt Feb 07 13:04:05 morning Feb 07 13:08:05 kergoth: openzaurus.org domain wait for payment too? Feb 07 13:09:34 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rbebd24cb... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): hh-pxa-2.6: apply RPs ide_not_removable patch to avoid udev messing up cf card mounts Feb 07 13:09:41 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf13f9ef4... 10/conf/machine/tosa-2.4.conf: Feb 07 13:09:41 tosa 2.4 config: set preferred version of wlan-ng-modules to 0.2.1-pre26 Feb 07 13:09:41 since it is the most recent version that works Feb 07 13:09:41 - taken from .dev (in a bit other way) Feb 07 13:09:45 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7e0d3587... 10/packages/libmimedir/libmimedir_cvs.bb: libmimedir: tweak FILES a bit, thank to Reenoo for spotting that Feb 07 13:09:50 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r53837b57... 10/packages/ (gcc/gcc3-build.inc glibc/glibc_2.2.5.bb): Feb 07 13:09:50 gcc: change _nslu2 override to _slugos+_unslung in gcc3-build.inc Feb 07 13:09:50 glibc: change _nslu2 override to _unslung in 2.2.5 Feb 07 13:09:50 - these overrides are out of date or wrong Feb 07 13:09:54 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r985dc6e7... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: re-add setpwc to feeds Feb 07 13:09:59 03mgoebl 07org.oe.dev * r8515ae95... 10/packages/lirc/ (files/lircexec.init lirc-modules_0.8.0.bb lirc_0.8.0.bb): Feb 07 13:10:00 lirc_0.8.0.bb, lirc-modules_0.8.0.bb: Fix init script, change maintainer Feb 07 13:10:02 - Add lost daemonization-option to lirc-exec init script Feb 07 13:10:04 - Change maintainer with permission by Michael Lauer Feb 07 13:10:08 03mgoebl 07org.oe.dev * r8d35aa77... 10/packages/libao/ (libao-alsa_0.8.6.bb libao-plugin-alsa_0.8.6.bb): Feb 07 13:10:11 libao-plugin-alsa_0.8.6.bb: Rename from libao-alsa_0.8.6 and fix do_stage Feb 07 13:10:13 - Rename libao-alsa to libao-plugin-alsa and define libao-alsa as Feb 07 13:10:15 provided, because the main package name will be automatically Feb 07 13:10:17 replaced by the main library name with version appended (libao2) Feb 07 13:10:19 - Restrict staging that only the alsa-part will be staged Feb 07 13:10:21 03mgoebl 07org.oe.dev * r07db6790... 10/packages/musicpd/mpd/mpd.init: Feb 07 13:10:23 musicpd: Add init script Feb 07 13:10:25 - Add init script for mpd Feb 07 13:10:27 It's used only in mpd-alsa so far Feb 07 13:10:31 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r282bd719... 10/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.109.bb: libgpewidget: fix strange issue with do_configure getting changed to nylon-image_do_configure Feb 07 13:10:55 who is mgoebl? Feb 07 13:11:29 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r02d3cf5b... 10/packages/gpdf/gpdf_2.10.0.bb: gpdf: add 2.10.0 from .dev, more stable than 2.8.2 Feb 07 13:11:46 do13_: I'll add that in the next set of changes Feb 07 13:13:25 RP: ok Feb 07 13:31:38 mental note -> When changing uclibc versions delete /tmp Feb 07 13:32:07 RP: Got it to work finally :) Feb 07 13:45:52 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r69621df0... 10/packages/cups/cups_1.1.23.bb: cups: add 1.1.23, with hacks to make it build Feb 07 13:45:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a47716e... 10/packages/cups/cups_1.1.23.bb: cups: add 0.1.23, with hacks to make it build Feb 07 13:53:03 Ifaistos: Excellent. For major changes like that, wiping /tmp is a must Feb 07 13:55:26 RP: Kexec-tools http://www.do13.de/oz/temp/kexec-tools-bb.patch Feb 07 14:04:15 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf87dbdf8... 10/packages/mozilla/firefox-1.0.7/ (firefox-cc-fix.patch jsautocfg.h mozconfig): firefox_1.0.7.bb : add the supporting files I forgot. Feb 07 14:07:01 I would s+/tmp+TMPDIR+ Feb 07 14:15:04 guess how long does 'rm -rf .ccache .ccache-old' can take Feb 07 14:15:16 3 hours? Feb 07 14:15:40 I hope not ;) 0.5h already taken Feb 07 14:25:55 hrw|work: you have ccache actually woring? Feb 07 14:26:25 XorA: on @home @work machines Feb 07 14:26:35 * RP uses ccache - works well Feb 07 14:27:07 I tried it, but my experience of it + oe was garbaged files and wierd link messages Feb 07 14:27:29 My images work... :) Feb 07 14:27:45 switching between soft and hardfloat doesn't always work either with ccache Feb 07 14:32:16 XorA: that is odd. ccache has been the default in oe basically forever, and it seems to work fine for everyone else. Feb 07 14:37:23 pb__: that is not true, at the time I was having ccache problems, there were quite a few people with similar problems on IRC, it seems in intervening time something has improved Feb 07 14:43:21 * chouimat|afk is away: interview Feb 07 14:55:56 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r4f0394e8... 10/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Feb 07 14:55:56 gnome-cups-manager_0.31.bb, libgnomecups_0.2.2.bb : add these to OE now cups exists. Feb 07 14:55:56 cups_1.1.23.bb : inherit binconfig for cups-config staging and add staging for the header files and libs Feb 07 14:56:36 XorA: FWIW, I've never seen ccache cause problems for me, even when others were seeing them Feb 07 14:56:59 RP: maybe its amd64 only :-) Feb 07 14:57:20 amd64 seems to be nothing but problems :) Feb 07 14:57:21 RP: but if others are building fine these days, I shall if I get bored re-enable it Feb 07 14:57:51 RP: 99% of them are telling lazy people sizeof (int) != sizeof (void *) Feb 07 15:39:59 guys, what domains are up for payment? I can pay at least for one for one year (at least at dyndns.org prices) Feb 07 16:13:27 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r1098d75c... 10/packages/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Feb 07 16:13:27 radlib/wview: Add radlib/wview packages Feb 07 16:13:27 radlib is a "rapid application development" library (http://www.radlib.teel.ws/) Feb 07 16:13:27 wview is weather station app (http://www.wviewweather.com/) Feb 07 16:13:32 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r62bc6b12... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): slugos-packages: Add wview-packages to slugos feed Feb 07 16:22:45 * chouimat|afk is back. Feb 07 17:19:31 hi all Feb 07 17:19:36 any rubyists here? Feb 07 17:21:23 * Philippe is back (gone 19:10:15) Feb 07 17:22:03 hi people Feb 07 17:24:02 hi Feb 07 17:24:14 this usually a busy channel? Feb 07 17:24:30 yes Feb 07 18:35:44 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r6ee2cf10... 10/packages/libeventdb/libeventdb_0.19.bb: libeventdb: fix another strange problem with do_configure getting nylon-image_do_configure Feb 07 18:37:41 * france is back (gone 05:47:15) Feb 07 18:44:48 koen: did you add Xgl yet? Feb 07 18:45:16 zecke: heh Feb 07 18:45:46 ho Feb 07 18:46:06 btw.. who fscked irda-utils? Feb 07 18:46:07 zecke: I didn't even add mese yet Feb 07 18:46:16 hrw|collie: that would be me Feb 07 18:46:28 hrw|collie: what's the problem? Feb 07 18:46:40 mreimer: no /etc/sysconfig/irda Feb 07 18:46:55 hrw|collie: it's supposed to be created on package install Feb 07 18:47:11 hm. will look then Feb 07 18:47:53 hrw|collie: check /usr/lib/ipkg/info/irda-utils.postinst Feb 07 18:48:10 ok. i know what culd be wrong here. Feb 07 18:48:43 hmmm....looks like anything that inherits gpe is getting nylon-image_do_configure: command not found Feb 07 18:48:56 gpe/dm started restarting on first boot and maybe configure task doesnot happen Feb 07 18:49:26 of course I may be wrong... Feb 07 18:50:30 mreimer: btw.. why postinst instead of 'irda' file in metadata? Feb 07 18:50:49 first boot is long.. Feb 07 18:51:22 hrw|collie: I suppose so one package can be shared amongst multiple devices. Feb 07 18:51:31 ah.. yep Feb 07 18:51:41 forgot that Feb 07 18:56:13 5% baterry.. cu Feb 07 19:08:01 anyof you guys good at alsa programming? Feb 07 19:08:46 Crofton: lrg should be Feb 07 19:08:49 ~seen lrg Feb 07 19:08:52 lrg was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 32d 2h 26m 26s ago, saying: 'Luke-Jr: alsa now gives the flexability for additional controls that don't easily fit into the oss model'. Feb 07 19:09:00 heh Feb 07 19:09:00 ~seen lrg|home Feb 07 19:09:02 lrg|home was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 5d 4h 11m 55s ago, saying: 'ah'. Feb 07 19:09:03 ~seen lrg|work Feb 07 19:09:05 i haven't seen 'lrg|work', koen Feb 07 19:09:07 better Feb 07 19:09:33 I need to make sound come out of a speaker, and i need the code to run on arm CPUS Feb 07 19:09:37 ie no floating point Feb 07 19:10:07 cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp Feb 07 19:10:33 and I am trying to convice myself alsa can really accept what ever rate I ask for and do the write thing Feb 07 19:10:51 my data is carefully generated :) Feb 07 19:10:55 libasound should handle that iirc Feb 07 19:11:17 can't that fancy c54x dsp to rate conversion? Feb 07 19:11:20 the docs are not clear at all Feb 07 19:11:26 well it can Feb 07 19:11:36 but I am trying to avoid that right now Feb 07 19:12:00 I need the code to run on a regular machine also Feb 07 19:14:59 moved anoncvs to anoncvs@anoncvs.handhelds.org, anoncvs@cvs.handhelds.org should work for a while... Feb 07 19:21:12 france: You'd better mention that on the oe mailing list so someone can update OE to reflect that Feb 07 19:22:45 RP: I did in Oct before the move of the site, everybody was supposed to update the pages at that time. I am going to put a note on the front page of hh.org Feb 07 19:23:28 RP: Someone probably needs to scan the web pages and wiki Feb 07 19:23:30 france: Ah, I think I'm misunderstanding - oe might have been updated then Feb 07 19:23:48 RP: I try to give as much warning as I can.... Feb 07 19:23:55 the bug was close Feb 07 19:23:59 closed* Feb 07 19:24:08 so OE should have been updated Feb 07 19:24:22 (HANDHELDS_CVS in conf/bitbake.conf) Feb 07 19:24:55 we just need to scan the wiki and web pages... Feb 07 19:25:03 03philippe 07org.oe.dev * r4ef07b63... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Feb 07 19:25:03 packages/matchbox-panel/matchbox-panel-0.9.2/system-monitor-crash-fix.patch Feb 07 19:25:03 * update patch to avoid compile time cpu selection Feb 07 19:25:03 packages/matchbox-panel/matchbox-panel-0.9.2/matchbox-panel_0.9.2.bb Feb 07 19:25:03 * bunp PR number Feb 07 19:25:34 and we should all do extra testing, just to be certain, .... (yes, I have a backup plan for tying my shoes) Feb 07 19:25:49 koen: :-D Feb 07 19:25:56 france: velcro? Feb 07 19:26:44 hi Feb 07 19:27:47 koen: loafers :-D Feb 07 19:28:14 :) Feb 07 19:28:25 it will take a while for the dns changes to propigate, I do not expect any user issues, but we will see. :-D Feb 07 19:32:39 man, is building a cross compiler toolchain as difficult as it looks? Feb 07 19:33:06 it is Feb 07 19:33:18 that why people either use prebuilt ones, OE or crosstool Feb 07 19:33:53 Alright, I am trying to target the TI MSP430 Feb 07 19:35:27 koen: Its not difficult. I type bitbake gcc-cross ;-) Feb 07 19:35:50 heh Feb 07 19:36:09 I remember building my own cross and native toolchains long ago Feb 07 19:36:27 bitbake? is that like crosstool? Feb 07 19:36:41 then I switched to prebuilt ones Feb 07 19:36:52 not long after that I switched to OE Feb 07 19:36:58 around 2 years ago Feb 07 19:37:06 Chocobo: bitbake is the program that uses the openembedded meta data Feb 07 19:37:32 I'm not sure I ever did build my own. I think I did bits of it now and again to rebuild parts of prebuilt ones Feb 07 19:38:13 * koen used LFS for years Feb 07 19:38:52 *the* reason to despise g3nt00 ;) Feb 07 19:39:10 koen: what do you use now? Feb 07 19:39:34 johnX: debian on servers, ubuntu on workstation, osx on laptop Feb 07 19:39:48 Ahh. I am sorry, I am not really sure what openembedded is but I am doing embedded stuff so I thought this might be the channel for me :) Feb 07 19:40:16 Chocobo: oe.handhelds.org Feb 07 19:41:21 bugger :( crosstool doesn't support the processor I want. Feb 07 19:41:49 oe looks pretty cool :) Feb 07 19:43:03 can the msp430 ron uclinux? Feb 07 19:44:42 aha: http://mspgcc.sourceforge.net/ Feb 07 19:47:17 * Necronom built a crosschain. Mainly to have build one. Feb 07 19:47:27 It was even used on a real product. :) Feb 07 19:48:17 (management firmware for a storage controller) Feb 07 19:50:21 Yeah, I have seen the prebuilt ones... I am not exactly sure which set to use... there appeards to be two different sets, and the last time they were updated is 2003. Is there any benefit to using more recent version of binutils and gcc? Feb 07 19:57:07 Alright... so it looks like the steps are... build binutils first (./configure --target=msp430 --opt=/opt/msp430) then is gcc... only the C language though (./configure --target=msp430 --prefix=/opt/msp430 --enable-language=c) then I need to build glibc? or ulibc? Feb 07 19:59:30 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rb0994d2e... 10/packages/matchbox-panel/ (2 files in 2 dirs): matchbox-panel: update system-monitor-crash-fix patch from .dev Feb 07 20:00:47 hmm.... Feb 07 20:09:41 hi all Feb 07 20:10:12 hey Mardy Feb 07 20:23:15 evening Feb 07 20:23:28 hey cedric Feb 07 20:24:20 RP: ping Feb 07 20:26:07 *** Configuration msp430-unknown-none not supported - got this when compiling the c compiler. any ideas? Feb 07 20:27:10 koen: how do I see the last changing log file from monotone? Feb 07 20:28:18 monotone log | more Feb 07 20:29:25 thx Feb 07 20:29:58 or monotone log | more Feb 07 20:32:46 Damn, ipkg upgrade is a dangerous command. Feb 07 20:33:18 It has a tendency of removing important system commands. Feb 07 20:34:15 Yeah, here we go. No /bin/sh. Feb 07 20:34:39 ouch Feb 07 20:34:41 yep, trashed a test image yesterday this way Feb 07 20:34:47 heh Feb 07 20:34:59 another victim of #1503 Feb 07 20:35:00 I'll have to be more careful than last time in getting that back... Feb 07 20:35:11 http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1503 Feb 07 20:35:26 i.e. absolutely no closing that last remaining shell. Feb 07 20:36:44 I do still have scp, so I should be able to get the missing files back in place. Feb 07 20:36:52 As well as coreutils. Feb 07 20:42:45 DataBeaver: heh, yeah, that is a bad bug Feb 07 20:43:20 Lucky me that I'm not thte average Joe User. Feb 07 20:45:38 pb_: hey, I think darcs is not suitable for OE - even if the developers look nice Feb 07 20:46:19 hi zecke Feb 07 20:46:25 03koen 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r18a440a1... 10/conf/machine/ (h2200.conf h3900.conf ipaq-pxa270.conf): Feb 07 20:46:25 xscale ipaq: tweaks Feb 07 20:46:25 * use tune-strongarm Feb 07 20:46:25 * ship gaim with gpe Feb 07 20:46:25 * ship gpe-filemanager with gpe Feb 07 20:46:40 ah, you have photos of the developers? I didn't even think of checking for that. Feb 07 20:46:51 * pb_ hopes that the svn developers are not too ugly Feb 07 20:47:46 pb_: 'nice' from the amount of cooperation Feb 07 20:48:50 doh Feb 07 20:49:24 pb_: I'm eagerly waiting on monotone .26 as well Feb 07 20:49:40 ah right, what's the news in that version? Feb 07 20:49:54 pb_: new revision core (roster) Feb 07 20:50:09 pb_: it is supposed to be easiert to maintain, hack-on Feb 07 20:50:24 very good Feb 07 20:50:31 What package contains the ipkg binary? Feb 07 20:50:33 pb_: but they have at least two more netsync changes planned Feb 07 20:50:42 ipkg only has ipkg-cl Feb 07 20:50:49 Or maybe that's correct? Feb 07 20:50:50 DataBeaver: ipkg is a symlink to cl, I think Feb 07 20:50:53 er, to ipkg-cl Feb 07 20:51:12 k Feb 07 20:51:14 zecke: yeah, that's unfortunate. monotone does sound pretty good except the netsync upheaval Feb 07 20:51:26 I noticed I'm missing that too :P Feb 07 20:51:30 pb_: well e.g. git over http has issues as well Feb 07 20:51:49 pb_: e.g. when packing objects and git fetch/pull can fail as data vanishes from the server Feb 07 20:52:16 pb_: so we have to live with some kind of limitations on the pull part ;) Feb 07 20:52:19 yeah, that is unfortunate as well. Feb 07 20:52:25 heh, right, it seems Feb 07 20:52:34 pb_: but there is a git server (haven't tested it) Feb 07 20:52:45 does that avoid this issue? Feb 07 20:52:50 pb_: but they could just change the protocol as well Feb 07 20:52:58 pb_: yes this should avoid this issue Feb 07 20:53:57 cool Feb 07 20:54:25 pb_: but monotone 0.26 (unoptimized) is already faster than 0.25 Feb 07 20:54:36 that's good Feb 07 20:54:39 pb_: 6 to 8 times faster Feb 07 20:54:47 excellent Feb 07 20:54:49 pb_: according to a devel post on the mnt list Feb 07 20:55:16 nowadays I'm struggling with a corporate firewall as well and can not use netsync Feb 07 20:55:29 doh Feb 07 20:55:51 yeah, I guess that's an advantage for http based protocols. Feb 07 20:56:03 luckily the firewall thing is not a problem that I suffer from myself :-} Feb 07 20:57:04 RP: latest pull --> http://pastebin.com/543844 Feb 07 20:59:22 busybox and ipkg reinstalled. Feb 07 20:59:37 Please fix that bug ASAP. Feb 07 21:01:08 Hm, where do I get the runlevel command? Feb 07 21:01:09 help test ipkg .159 :) Feb 07 21:02:02 Where can I get it? Feb 07 21:02:22 bitbake it Feb 07 21:02:35 cp the .158 .bb to .159 .bb and bitbake it Feb 07 21:02:54 My files only go up to 155 Feb 07 21:03:13 cp that to .159 Feb 07 21:03:18 k Feb 07 21:03:40 How about the ipkg-0.99.155 directory? Feb 07 21:05:34 Is there a way to compile the kernel with all the availiable modules but include only certain of them in the rootfs ? Feb 07 21:09:47 no, not really Feb 07 21:11:46 Ifaistos: sure, the set of installed modules is controlled independently of the compile-time configuration Feb 07 21:15:19 pb_: something like this ? BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_RDEPENDS += "kernel-module-usb-storage" Feb 07 21:16:09 right Feb 07 21:16:36 or put them directly into your image's IPKG_INSTALL Feb 07 21:22:16 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r5190c8d2... 10/conf/machine/include/ixp4xx.conf: ixp4xx: roll back to working ipkg version 154 in all ixp4xx conf Feb 07 21:24:24 03jbowler 07org.oe.dev * r21ab572c... 10/packages/meta/slugos-image.bb: Feb 07 21:24:24 slugos-image: use SLUGOS_FLASH_IMAGE consistently in meta Feb 07 21:24:24 - the code used to only do the flash image for nslu2, now it does it Feb 07 21:24:24 whenever SLUGOS_FLASH_IMAGE is set. Feb 07 21:26:33 koen|away: ipkg 155 is broken? Feb 07 21:37:06 pb_: I did so but still copies all the modules to the rootfs. :( i am using a modified copy of the Nylon distro to get a uclibc x86 distro Feb 07 21:38:28 Ifaistos: that's because x86.conf includes kernel-modules which depends on all modules built. Feb 07 21:44:08 * Philippe is away: visual contact - dark melancholic dreams Feb 07 21:46:28 pH5: Thanks! Feb 07 22:24:14 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r12ad3125... 10/packages/ (2 files in 2 dirs): gpe-calendar, gpe-bluetooth: fix nylon-image_do_configure errors Feb 07 22:24:18 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rb6447bbb... 10/packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.52.bb: gpe-bluetooth: add 0.52 Feb 07 22:25:29 oooh....I wonder if that one got updates.... Feb 07 22:25:31 updated Feb 07 22:25:41 I really don't understand what's going on with nylong... Feb 07 22:25:43 nylon Feb 08 00:16:21 03mgoebl 07org.oe.dev * rf076172b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Feb 08 00:16:21 vpnc: Update to version 0.3.3 with patches, add to slugos Feb 08 00:16:21 - Update to current version 0.3.3 Feb 08 00:16:21 - Fix vpnc-script so busybox-sh can run it Feb 08 00:16:22 - Add a useful default config file Feb 08 00:16:24 - Add vpnc, libgcrypt and libgpg-error to slugos-packages Feb 08 00:43:05 hi Feb 08 02:06:00 * france is away: Away Feb 08 02:11:03 Morning All Feb 08 02:33:31 question, how best to add a cvs checkout build file for binutils and gcc HEAD? Feb 08 03:24:56 why are all my opie-image's coming out at 20 megs? Feb 08 05:42:33 hi, could anybody give me some help about what's wrong with my oe build enviroment? Feb 08 05:42:44 hzhang@thinkpanda ~/celf/oe $ bitbake -b /home/hzhang/celf/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/handhelds-sa_2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh40.bb Feb 08 05:42:45 ERROR: Remove this line or set a dummy DISTRO_VERSION if you really want to build an unversioned distro Feb 08 05:42:53 NOTE: exceptions.SystemExit:1 while evaluating: Feb 08 05:42:53 ${@bb.data.getVar("DISTRO_VERSION",d,1) or bb.fatal('Remove this line or set a dummy DISTRO_VERSION if you really want to build an unversioned distro')} Feb 08 06:45:45 panda|z, asside from the obvious? Feb 08 06:46:17 oh that was an hour ago Feb 08 06:46:20 * emte shrugges Feb 08 06:53:41 emte: hi :-) Feb 08 06:54:33 hey Feb 08 07:11:46 emte: well, could you let me know how to find out the toolchain version used by OE? Feb 08 07:12:01 emte: like gcc, glibc, kernel-header... Feb 08 07:12:03 ? Feb 08 07:12:18 those are specified by your distro Feb 08 07:12:28 emte: em OE will automatically create the cross toolchain? Feb 08 07:12:42 em ... but is there a fast way to check out the version? Feb 08 07:12:51 providing your using an existing distro, yes Feb 08 07:13:04 read your recipe files Feb 08 07:13:05 emte: familiar-0.8.3 ipaq3870 Feb 08 07:13:14 emte: recipe files? Feb 08 07:13:21 recipe/meta Feb 08 07:14:06 what specifically would you like to know? Feb 08 07:14:29 emte: e.g well, before i build, i want to know the gcc version Feb 08 07:14:46 for the host or target? Feb 08 07:15:08 emte: well, OE even can specific a host gcc version for build? Feb 08 07:15:14 yes Feb 08 07:15:24 emte: let me try to clarify ... Feb 08 07:15:53 emte: 1. host gcc for build cross gcc 2. cross gcc for build target binaries 3. gcc running on my target Feb 08 07:16:01 emte: shall i find them out? Feb 08 07:16:46 emte: well, i'm a big bitbake newbie, so i really have no clue about specific them manully :( Feb 08 07:16:59 ? Feb 08 07:17:32 were those three what you want or were you asking? Feb 08 07:17:47 and why are you trying to specify them? Feb 08 07:17:58 theyare already setup in familiar Feb 08 07:20:08 emte: well, in my local.conf , i just specific a DISTRO version Feb 08 07:20:23 what did you put? Feb 08 07:20:39 What package contains the console keymap? Feb 08 07:21:11 would depend on the console being used no? Feb 08 07:21:20 emte: i just put DISTRO = "familiar-0.8.3" Feb 08 07:21:22 Feb 08 07:22:09 and did you read it? Feb 08 07:22:30 PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc ?= "3.4.4" Feb 08 07:22:30 PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross ?= "3.4.4" Feb 08 07:22:30 PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial ?= "3.4.4" Feb 08 07:22:33 emte: read .bb of familiar? Feb 08 07:22:38 yes Feb 08 07:23:00 its in: org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/ Feb 08 07:24:04 emte: Zaurus SL-C3100 Feb 08 07:24:23 A bigger problem now seems to be getting anything transferred to the device though... Feb 08 07:24:23 lol Feb 08 07:24:43 DataBeaver, anyone awake in the oz channel? Feb 08 07:24:56 Doesn't seem so Feb 08 07:25:01 hmm Feb 08 07:26:07 doesnt help that thier site is down ... Feb 08 07:26:47 not sure if any zaurus users are awake Feb 08 07:27:20 How do I exit vim without a colon? Feb 08 07:27:20 sorry, in my local org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/familiar.conf ... there were no PREFERED_VERSION_gcc defined Feb 08 07:27:45 DataBeaver: quite easy, ssh to it, and kill -9 at the background Feb 08 07:28:06 Can't ssh, but ^Z and kill -9 did the trick Feb 08 07:28:07 panda|z, familiar.conf isnt a valid file Feb 08 07:28:13 DataBeaver: i always use my zaurus 5600 this way Feb 08 07:28:24 sshd refuses to start 'cause "PRNG is not initialized" Feb 08 07:28:35 you want to read a versioned one Feb 08 07:29:02 -unstable or the 0.8.3 one Feb 08 07:29:19 emte: oh!!!! i got it Feb 08 07:29:34 :) Feb 08 07:29:56 emte: so what's this? #!!!!! DON'T FORGET TO ENABLE ZAPROOTPASSWD !!!!! Feb 08 07:29:57 non-version distros are not "allowed" anymore Feb 08 07:30:16 its a note Feb 08 07:30:34 emte: so how to enable zaprootpasswd? Feb 08 07:30:47 the sources for the user stuff has a root password set Feb 08 07:31:14 panda|z, i wouldnt be changing anything unless you know why your changing it Feb 08 07:31:24 Is there anything I can use to transfer stuff to the device without any kernel modules? Feb 08 07:31:52 DataBeaver, would you liek to rephrase taht Feb 08 07:31:59 like that* Feb 08 07:32:29 all networking are kernel modules or directly compiled into the kernel Feb 08 07:32:41 not to mention associated drivers Feb 08 07:32:46 Networking and USB are already ruled out Feb 08 07:33:09 use a stable version of OZ? Feb 08 07:33:28 ipkg upgrade messed up things and now I don't have any kernel modules. Feb 08 07:34:02 ouch Feb 08 07:39:43 Is a CF card near enough the internal microdrive that I could use it? Feb 08 07:40:04 I don't have any at hand right now but I can get one Feb 08 07:44:31 (So I can't test it right now myself) Feb 08 08:17:11 good morning all Feb 08 08:27:02 morning Feb 08 08:27:31 koen: ipkg .157 is evil Feb 08 08:27:48 indeed Feb 08 08:28:01 koen: I suspect that this give restarting gpe-dm - ipkg configure did not run Feb 08 08:28:49 * koen suspects .154 or .159 would be a good choice Feb 08 08:28:54 ~lart schedules Feb 08 08:28:54 * ibot hereby declares schedules a troll Feb 08 08:29:24 my work starts at 13.00, but somehow I thought it started at 09.00 Feb 08 08:31:35 morning all Feb 08 08:32:04 hey dirk Feb 08 08:32:12 hey koen Feb 08 08:32:51 hi dirk Feb 08 08:33:02 hey Marcin Feb 08 08:34:02 gah Feb 08 08:34:05 ~lart bitbake updates Feb 08 08:34:05 * ibot makes a balloon animal out of bitbake updates Feb 08 08:34:13 * koen svn up Feb 08 08:34:40 .dev is evil Feb 08 08:39:48 hrw|work: Did you pushed the tosa fstab patch into oz354fam083? Feb 08 08:39:54 ah, with a recent bitbake it is less evil Feb 08 08:41:08 do13_: no Feb 08 08:41:35 do13_: please attach it to #350 - today I'm fighting with harddrives rather then with OE Feb 08 08:57:25 morning Feb 08 09:02:49 hi folks Feb 08 09:02:55 hey ade|desk Feb 08 09:22:13 morning all Feb 08 09:22:18 hi Richard Feb 08 09:22:30 Hi Richard Feb 08 09:23:01 hey RP Feb 08 09:30:42 Good morning Feb 08 09:30:50 hi Bernardo Feb 08 09:32:38 hi hrw|work Feb 08 09:33:01 I managed to get the tremor tarball from the ftp.handhelds.org site Feb 08 09:33:17 only had to rename it to Tremor-something-trunk.* Feb 08 09:33:55 didn't have the time to check why svn won't work for me when called from inside bitbake, and will work to download bitbake Feb 08 09:37:33 anyway, backing up my akita now, will flash it with oz 3.5.4 in a hour or two, and I can put the images and full meta-opie feed online tonight, if you want Feb 08 09:38:40 as long as I can get it to build, I can always generate akita images if you guys want Feb 08 09:40:34 Bernardo: I will release oz 3.5.4-test4 soon with meta-opie/meta-gpe feed Feb 08 09:41:09 but soon is 2-3 days as first I have to resurrect my hdd Feb 08 09:41:29 hrw|work: ok, if you want I have meta-opie built last night that I can put at my home web site Feb 08 09:41:52 Bernardo: I have it - now images are my problem due to ipkg .157;( Feb 08 09:41:53 I'll check if I have enough drive space to build meta-gpe, but I'm not sure Feb 08 09:42:06 what images do you need? Feb 08 09:42:26 Bernardo: I build bootstrap/gpe/opie for all zaurus machines Feb 08 09:42:41 thats 22 images Feb 08 09:42:49 ok Feb 08 09:43:03 if I can help with any, just say so Feb 08 09:43:03 22? Feb 08 09:43:08 koen|gprs: yes Feb 08 09:43:14 not 21? Feb 08 09:43:19 koen|gprs: spitz needs pivot image too Feb 08 09:43:25 ah, ok Feb 08 09:45:17 koen|gprs: did you tested ipkg >.157? Feb 08 09:46:04 I test .158 Feb 08 09:46:17 which works, as long as you don't ipkg upgrade some packages Feb 08 09:46:28 .159 should solve that, but I haven't built that yet Feb 08 09:47:10 ok Feb 08 09:51:19 will look with 159 Feb 08 09:51:41 hh.org buog #1503 has some more info Feb 08 09:52:07 ok Feb 08 10:06:35 hrw|work: should I abstain from flashing with 354 until ipkg is updated? Feb 08 10:08:48 Bernardo: you build from oz354fam083? Feb 08 10:09:49 yes Feb 08 10:09:58 updated 12 hours ago Feb 08 10:12:49 I'm now flashing image with ipkg .159 Feb 08 10:13:08 Bernardo: I suggest .154 as stable Feb 08 10:14:59 ok, I can't rebuild until I get home tonight Feb 08 10:15:14 so I should not try this one, right? Feb 08 10:15:33 I would not touch it Feb 08 10:16:41 wth .159 is same Feb 08 10:17:28 what is the problem? I can't open hh.org here at work Feb 08 10:18:11 gpe-dm restarting and restarting and... Feb 08 10:19:47 ouch Feb 08 10:19:51 I'll try with .154 now Feb 08 10:19:56 and with opie? Feb 08 10:20:41 not tested yet Feb 08 10:20:59 gpe image is blocked totally due this Feb 08 10:21:27 ok, I'll test opie image Feb 08 10:21:33 I thought gpe-dm barfed after 5 goes Feb 08 10:21:52 in a few minutes (time to restore oz backup, then flash to oz354) I'll be able to tell you how it goes Feb 08 10:22:10 XorA: if user kill it Feb 08 10:22:20 XorA: but no ctrl, no alt on collie.. Feb 08 10:22:45 hrw|work: I assume under X Calendar/Addressbook delete dont work Feb 08 10:25:13 yep Feb 08 10:26:46 hrw|work: any hope on debugging this> Feb 08 10:26:48 ? Feb 08 10:26:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2657dc00... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): ep93xx-kernel: add kernel for ep93xx machine + patch from cirrus-logic git tree + defconfig Feb 08 10:27:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r37906cae... 10/conf/machine/ep93xx.conf: ep93xx.conf: add machine config for ep93xx based boards like http://www.glomationinc.com/products_9312-sx.html Feb 08 10:29:43 XorA: we (koen & I) tries to get it fixed Feb 08 10:32:10 if only police stations would have wifi Feb 08 10:33:07 koen|gprs: we worry about you, you a part time prisoner :-) Feb 08 10:33:25 heh Feb 08 10:33:32 no, I'm here for work Feb 08 10:34:08 XorA: http://bsst.de/BSSTV20/html/english/eIndex.htm Feb 08 10:34:21 koen|gprs: I hope that you do other work then bullet-proof vests tester? Feb 08 10:35:35 heh Feb 08 10:36:00 okay, how best to version an svn/cvs build of gcc and binutils? Feb 08 10:36:07 ;) Feb 08 10:36:42 gpe-image-3.5.4-test4-collie.rootfs.jffs2 looks nice as name Feb 08 10:36:56 shadows: something like http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/angstrom-eabi-r7.diff.bz2 Feb 08 10:37:49 its good to have big thumbs - flashing collie with thumb on C/D keys Feb 08 10:37:50 hm Feb 08 10:38:50 to build and use a recent gcc HEAD checkout, is recent (less than a week old) build of binutils Feb 08 10:39:02 i think cvs binutils bb is in OE Feb 08 10:40:06 shadows: just change teh 20051214 dates in that diff to 20060208 or something Feb 08 10:41:04 ah, okay Feb 08 10:42:24 morning Feb 08 10:42:32 hey alan|home Feb 08 10:42:43 yop koen Feb 08 10:45:26 http://www.pixeldudes.com/stuff/verde.mp3 Feb 08 10:45:39 download it, start playing at full volume and run away Feb 08 10:45:53 garanteed to make grown men cry, dogs howl for miles, etc... Feb 08 10:46:03 koen|gprs: can I get that with builtin ARM cpus? Feb 08 10:46:24 XorA: not yet ;) Feb 08 10:46:35 my ARMed ARMour :-) Feb 08 10:48:09 * koen|gprs starts a search for food Feb 08 10:48:11 later all Feb 08 10:48:15 hrw|work: booting now, only error until now is a missing /etc/sysconfig/irda Feb 08 10:49:02 Bernardo: yep - it will be resolved by ipkg configure but I do not like this method Feb 08 10:49:46 apart from that, opie-image seems to work Feb 08 10:50:14 ok Feb 08 10:50:19 mreimer: ping Feb 08 10:50:30 mmm - no sound Feb 08 10:50:40 Bernardo: akita with 2.4.20? Feb 08 10:51:03 yes Feb 08 10:51:26 2.6.15 isn't in oz354fam083 yet, right? Feb 08 10:51:46 yep Feb 08 10:52:05 it has to wait after 3.5.4 release Feb 08 10:52:44 ok Feb 08 10:52:53 but sound should work with 2.4.20, right? Feb 08 10:53:02 rather yes **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 08 10:59:58 2006