**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Feb 14 10:59:56 2006 Feb 14 11:03:42 http://www.palmsource.com/press/2006/021406_accesslinuxplatform.html Feb 14 11:03:57 mentions a gtk version of netfront Feb 14 11:04:12 ok. its bug in OE Feb 14 11:04:33 guess we should put a note out about copying busybox to another binary switch to that busybox shell before doing an upgrade Feb 14 11:05:10 I guess people should remove the new busybox from the feeds Feb 14 11:06:13 hmm that too Feb 14 11:14:47 http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_story.asp?ID=8388 Feb 14 11:22:28 ~seen cosmicpenguin Feb 14 11:22:31 cosmicpenguin is currently on #oe (11h 22m 58s) #elinux (11h 22m 58s), last said: 'thats sourceforge for ya'. Feb 14 11:24:41 e17 is coming to my Z.. Feb 14 11:28:31 after 3 hours of poking, i finally convinced Debian Installer to co-operate with a SATA optical drive Feb 14 11:28:58 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerSataAtapiHowto in case anyone ever needs to do that sort of thing. Feb 14 11:29:15 dbus has update-rc.d on device instead of rootfs creating Feb 14 11:29:29 shadows: sata cdrom/dvd or dvdrw? Feb 14 11:30:04 cdrw dvdrom Feb 14 11:31:12 newer laptop computers have completely SATA interconnects Feb 14 11:31:30 ATAPI/SATA for the optical drives, SATA hard disks Feb 14 11:31:38 shadows: yea, just like ibm T43 Feb 14 11:31:53 *nod* that's what's in front of me Feb 14 11:32:11 and even SATA device support suspend features since 2.6.15-rc6 Feb 14 11:32:25 Ubuntu installer worked flawlessly Feb 14 11:32:38 however i find myself not agreeable to Ubuntu limitations Feb 14 11:32:53 why use ubuntu? gentoo livecd is more fashion Feb 14 11:33:15 it is for work Feb 14 11:34:03 i won't be needing to compile anything, and if i must install a program, it will be done immediately Feb 14 11:36:37 shadows: em ... agree, and why not just stock debian but ubuntu? Feb 14 11:37:50 ubuntu is the *only* thing that installed unmodified Feb 14 11:38:00 i had to have an OS on the thing monday morning at work Feb 14 11:38:16 so, now i am re-doing it with a debian install Feb 14 11:38:27 debian installer does not support SATA ATAPI feature Feb 14 11:39:01 oh, blame martin michmayer Feb 14 11:39:05 :) Feb 14 11:39:13 yes of course i will ;) Feb 14 11:39:34 anyhow, i spent 2-3 hours hacking, and made it work Feb 14 11:41:08 shadows: well, i have to say, you're very lucky ... Feb 14 11:41:37 shadows: i've dig into my OE issue for whole afternoon, but still have no clue what's wrong :( Feb 14 11:41:43 oh Feb 14 11:41:45 what OE issue? Feb 14 11:42:02 bug # please ? Feb 14 11:47:00 shadows: well, i failed to run "bitbake task-bootstrap" Feb 14 11:47:19 shadows: and i'm not sure it's a bug or caused by my own fault Feb 14 11:47:31 shadows: and let me show your more details on pastebin Feb 14 11:51:43 shadows: still around? Feb 14 11:51:43 shadows: http://pastebin.com/554121 Feb 14 11:52:35 sure Feb 14 11:53:08 bad memory? Feb 14 11:53:26 shadows: bad memory? oh, what's that? Feb 14 11:53:35 it's when your memory goes bad Feb 14 11:53:38 and things break Feb 14 11:53:42 try diagnosing your hardware Feb 14 11:53:48 don't tell me it works fine otherwise Feb 14 11:54:02 shadows: hehe, my T43 have 1G low mem at the momoent Feb 14 11:54:02 just go diagnose it with memtest86 or something, to be 100% sure Feb 14 11:54:31 the other cause would be insane CFLAGS Feb 14 11:54:38 shadows: and the same symphton i meet on just stock 2.6.15 kernel from kernel.org Feb 14 11:54:43 since you mentioned your affiliation with Gentoo Feb 14 11:55:01 i'd bet a dollar it's either bad memory or your use of Gentoo OS Feb 14 11:55:16 CFLAGS="-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr -frename-registers -fprefetch-loop-arrays -falign-functions=64" Feb 14 11:55:27 shadows: em ... i'm not sure, but that's possible Feb 14 11:55:53 shadows: BTW: CFLAGS for which app will cause bitbake script broken? Feb 14 11:56:34 * Pigi is away: I'm busy Feb 14 12:00:23 minipanda: impossible to know Feb 14 12:01:00 shadows: so ... i just suspect whether this was caused by Memory curruption Feb 14 12:01:23 go test your machine, use memtest86.com utilities Feb 14 12:02:50 memtest86+ better Feb 14 12:03:09 shadows: well, it's just a brand new lenovo T43 :-) Feb 14 12:03:41 * minipanda try emerging both memtest86 and memtest86+ Feb 14 12:09:32 somebody knows how to access openzaurus.org? Feb 14 12:10:12 openzaurus.sf.net Feb 14 12:12:21 shadows: i'm pretty sure that's not caused by my gentoo system Feb 14 12:12:22 ~seen JustinP Feb 14 12:12:45 hrw|work: tnx, looking for the instructions how repartition the borsoi... Feb 14 12:12:48 shadows: the same script for build bootstarp broken on my redhat AS4 server as well! Feb 14 12:12:48 justinp is currently on #oe (18h 4m 53s) #openzaurus (18h 4m 53s). Has said a total of 205 messages. Is idling for 6h 13m 56s, last said: ')'. Feb 14 12:13:14 shadows: so ... it's must cause by another reason Feb 14 12:13:25 did you run the test on your RAM or not Feb 14 12:13:36 hrw|work: found, but how can i access fdisk at original sharp? Feb 14 12:13:57 greentux: use terminal? Feb 14 12:14:26 shadows: no, i didn't, if i processed memetest, then i can't chat with you anymore Feb 14 12:14:29 hrw|work: ok, looking for... :) Feb 14 12:16:08 *twiddles fingers* before i help you with anything, i want to know for sure your RAM is okay. maybe someone else would care to help you? Feb 14 12:16:17 kergoth: ping Feb 14 12:17:17 hrw|work: did it. fine Feb 14 12:18:56 shadows: ok ... seems it's start to build on my rhas4 now ... Feb 14 12:19:18 shadows: well, i have to reboot to use memtest86 and memtest86plus now :-( Feb 14 12:19:25 shadows: so, chat later ... :-) Feb 14 12:36:01 * Geo_KM is away: Away at the moment Feb 14 12:44:20 morning all Feb 14 12:45:54 hi Liam Feb 14 12:46:17 Hi Marcin, back from Shanghai now. Feb 14 12:46:53 lrg|home: how was your Chinese? Feb 14 12:47:24 hrw|work: I now know hello, and the characters for entry and exit Feb 14 12:47:38 I can also now use chop sticks :) Feb 14 12:47:59 I have chop sticks in drawer in kitchen Feb 14 12:48:40 You learn pretty quick when they are no knives or forks available ;) Feb 14 12:48:52 ;) Feb 14 12:49:13 I suppose Feb 14 12:49:44 I'll email some news of the trip Feb 14 12:58:07 I'm building e17 for all zauruses now Feb 14 13:06:37 hrw|work: try http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/gpe-theme-e17_1.0.bb Feb 14 13:08:07 koen: will but first I need JustinP or CoreDump to get it really working.. Feb 14 13:08:29 after flash I had to run X by hand, then by hand gpe-conf screen to get calibration Feb 14 13:08:35 no gpe apps in menus etc.. Feb 14 13:08:43 hmmm Feb 14 13:08:49 needs some polish Feb 14 13:08:55 yep Feb 14 13:09:06 I will not give it to users in this shape Feb 14 13:10:23 I suspect the loginmanager stuff isn't in the branch yet Feb 14 13:10:32 probably Feb 14 13:10:52 I prefer leaving it for JustinP to care Feb 14 13:11:14 and images needs some love too - chkhinge is not needed on !clamshells for example Feb 14 13:11:40 29858K Feb 14 13:26 e-image-3.5.4-test5-collie.rootfs.jffs2 ;) Feb 14 13:11:49 heh Feb 14 13:12:25 e17 for collie only as tarball (if CoreDump update altboot) Feb 14 13:12:26 interesting: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2006-02/msg00102.html Feb 14 13:12:58 if only someone would implement it Feb 14 13:19:38 morning Feb 14 13:19:50 hmmm Feb 14 13:19:52 hi XorA Feb 14 13:20:00 http://mt.xaraya.com/com.xaraya.core/index.psp looks like a patched viewmtn Feb 14 13:22:37 patched? css changed Feb 14 13:23:17 hrw|work: 'status' and 'description' Feb 14 13:24:11 ok Feb 14 13:30:03 shadows: hows amd64 building going? Feb 14 13:33:21 XorA: successful Feb 14 13:33:33 XorA: waiting for patches to all be committed to OE before continuing Feb 14 13:33:37 shadows: have you build gdbm? Feb 14 13:33:44 i don't know, probably Feb 14 13:34:07 shadows: can you check, I am unable to get that to build, and I need to verify if its a 64bit problem or other Feb 14 13:34:08 there's a handful of bugs if you have commit access and want something to do Feb 14 13:34:30 shadows: I have seen, but a lot of the bugs are in packages others really maintain Feb 14 13:34:39 yeah Feb 14 13:35:04 shadows: I dont think any in that queue I am comfortable with, even my own one :-) Feb 14 13:37:54 what are you not comfortable with Feb 14 13:38:04 tell me which bug number, and why. Feb 14 13:38:28 shadows: just because they are core packages and no-one seems to be commenting on the bugs, no consensus Feb 14 13:39:29 no one comments on this stuff because the URL is treke and not openembedded Feb 14 13:39:35 if you have been following the lists Feb 14 13:39:51 plus, i have made everything available as patches, so you can easily see what i intend to change Feb 14 13:39:51 shadows: I do, but the core devs know to use treke.net :-) Feb 14 13:40:03 yes Feb 14 13:40:12 RP has committed several of my patches already Feb 14 13:40:25 shadows: cool Feb 14 13:40:49 i presume he does not have time to sit and go through them all, please do your share of the work Feb 14 13:41:18 i've done my part clearing the way for a gcc4 cross intitial compatible gpe-image build Feb 14 13:42:44 shadows: are only the perl and sqlite bugs still pending? Feb 14 13:42:49 hi lrg|home Feb 14 13:43:10 XorA: don't forget the updates to gtk-webcore Feb 14 13:43:15 those are very important Feb 14 13:43:21 shadows: gcc 4.0 is a seperate issue Feb 14 13:43:29 wow Feb 14 13:43:36 lrg|home: cool Feb 14 13:43:43 shadows: I do not use gcc 4.0 so I wont be able to help with them Feb 14 13:44:01 XorA: the patches (have you looked at them?) are not specific to gcc 4.0 Feb 14 13:44:31 it means that what we are doing now when the cross initial is gcc 3.x, is -wrong- Feb 14 13:44:43 it just happens to compile Feb 14 13:44:50 shadows: Id like to keep seperate problems caused by bad assumptions on amd64 seperate from gcc issues Feb 14 13:45:58 for gtk-webcore i update the compiler flags to match what the Apple developers use in their IDE project files, no thread safe statics Feb 14 13:50:14 any volunteers for http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/ELC2006CallForPresentations ? Feb 14 13:51:13 bugger, wonder if I can con a trick to San Jose office that week Feb 14 13:51:58 convince celf to fund your trip Feb 14 13:52:40 greentux: Hi. could I get use of the borzoi for another 2 weeks as I've been a bit held up as off late. Feb 14 13:53:10 lrg|home: two weeks after fosdem? Feb 14 13:53:29 greentux: yes thanks Feb 14 13:53:48 greentux: hey, hows your mmc/sd devel going? Feb 14 13:54:18 XorA: work is going on. we devel a own sd card... Feb 14 13:54:35 greentux: cool, will be nice to see Feb 14 13:56:45 lrg|home: rp wrote me some ideas of simplifying the mixer cannels Feb 14 13:56:54 XorA: give me 6 months... Feb 14 13:57:59 greentux: is it going to have storage + cool shiot? Feb 14 13:58:44 XorA: yes, storage + sc... we are looking for a nice sd controller... in the moment we wanna use a arm7 Feb 14 13:59:21 koen: Proposals for presentations, demos and Birds-of-a-Feather sessions must be received by February 15, 2006. Feb 14 13:59:29 koen: so its timing Feb 14 13:59:48 hrw|work: just send mickys OE slides Feb 14 13:59:51 morning Feb 14 13:59:57 hrw|work: you can always change it nearer the date Feb 14 14:00:20 XorA: :) Feb 14 14:02:02 greentux: excellent. I started looking at this last week. We also have some help with this. Feb 14 14:03:22 lrg|home: ok, will start to test voip app Feb 14 14:04:34 lrg|home: sound playing is ok. perfect. Feb 14 14:06:06 greentux: amount of mixer controls will scary most of users Feb 14 14:06:09 iirc Feb 14 14:07:13 hrw|work: yes, i know. so i organised something, that we can solve that Feb 14 14:07:25 I know Feb 14 14:07:48 no hurry anyway Feb 14 14:09:14 greentux, hrw|work: I'll be emailing RP soon about this. Feb 14 14:09:21 lrg|home: just readed mail - nice work Feb 14 14:16:44 NOTE: /usr/lib/pkgconfig/edje.pc Feb 14 14:16:46 hmmm Feb 14 14:16:50 that should be in the -dev package Feb 14 14:22:09 | /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/staging/i686-linux/bin/edje_cc: Error. :434 token FRAME not one of: RAW COMP LOSSY USER| /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/familiar/staging/i686-linux/bin/edje_cc: Opening "/tmp/edje_cc.edc-tmp-U6UVtE" for input Feb 14 14:22:13 looks familiar Feb 14 14:50:41 koen|away: did you read the Palm/Access news? Feb 14 15:18:35 zecke: I did read that Feb 14 15:19:17 lrg|home: thanks for your mail Feb 14 15:25:30 hi Feb 14 15:25:57 hrw|work: :-) Feb 14 15:26:09 hrw|work: yes, those are normal, not all of the efl has examples/themes/etc Feb 14 15:27:14 hrw|work: I don't understand...it worked for me last night.... Feb 14 15:28:23 hrw|work: you're right, though....I don't have DEPENDS for task-e-x11-core.... Feb 14 15:29:22 hrw|work: I just don't understand how it was working for me...... Feb 14 15:32:16 * CoreDump|home diffs kernel 2.4.20 jffs2 driver against 2.4.20-crapix and sighs Feb 14 15:33:22 +mhentges@mhcln03:/tmp >ls -al jffs2.diff Feb 14 15:33:23 -rw-r--r-- 1 mhentges mhentges 796666 2006-02-14 16:35 jffs2.diff Feb 14 15:33:34 what the hell did they do to that driver grr Feb 14 15:33:58 CoreDump|home: tried the oz354fam083 e-image yet? ^_^ Feb 14 15:34:35 my /home is still unreadable to a 2.4 kernel so where's the point? But I tried it a few weeks back. Feb 14 15:34:47 ohh e-image Feb 14 15:36:15 it *should* be working in .dev as well....but there are lib problems thanks to shadows' updates..... Feb 14 15:36:23 shadows: libsvg is giving me problems now Feb 14 15:36:25 JustinP: I had to start X by hand, then start "gpe-conf screen" by hand to get calibration, no gpe apps in menus Feb 14 15:36:50 hrw|work: GPE apps get in menus when you run e17-gpe-menu-convert.sh Feb 14 15:37:01 hrw|work: I'll add a postinst for it, but it takes a *while* to run.... Feb 14 15:37:16 JustinP: 1st boot take long time anyway.. Feb 14 15:37:17 hrw|work: if you had to start X by hand something is wrong. If you didn't get entrance, that's the problem Feb 14 15:37:37 hrw|work: again, it worked fine for me last night....no idea why your build would fail Feb 14 15:37:42 JustinP: I can give you rootfs which I got Feb 14 15:37:43 hrw|work: what machine/distro? Feb 14 15:37:53 hrw|work: sure, that could be helpful Feb 14 15:38:01 * JustinP can only test with spitz/oz Feb 14 15:38:03 oz 3.5.4-test5 - machine any - which you want? Feb 14 15:38:25 JustinP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/ Feb 14 15:38:39 JustinP: e-image, e-image-core Feb 14 15:40:06 lrg|home: welcome back :) Feb 14 15:40:10 hrw|work: did you test e-image or e-image-core? Feb 14 15:40:20 lrg|home: I'll forward you the mail I sent to greentux Feb 14 15:40:29 well...if -core isn't working neither will e-image Feb 14 15:42:08 JustinP: e-image Feb 14 15:43:57 pb_,recently you and Erik discussed a new kernel branch on h5400 mailing list. (h41 if i am not mistaken). Is there a bb in OE for this? Feb 14 15:46:19 RP: I ran the jff2 oops through ksymoops as you requested: http://hentges.net/tmp/oops.txt Feb 14 15:49:29 CoreDump|home: Thanks, that makes it much more readable! Feb 14 15:49:52 indeed. The compressors aren't to blame Feb 14 15:50:06 CoreDump|home: It shows the problem is within jffs2. I suspect I know why as well Feb 14 15:50:10 hrw|work: strange....your tarballs are a bit larger than mine... Feb 14 15:50:26 The mtd chip in akita is a newer style large page flash device Feb 14 15:51:38 hrw|work: your images look fine to me Feb 14 15:51:56 hrw|work: I'll try to put your e-image in my Z.... Feb 14 15:52:09 CoreDump|home: I suspect the 2.4 driver combines several eraseblocks into one big eraseblock and only works on the larger units. Under 2.6, it works on the pages individually. Feb 14 15:52:27 hmm Feb 14 15:52:36 CoreDump|home: If the 2.6 drive breaks the alignment into smaller secitons, the 2.4 driver probably can't cope Feb 14 15:52:46 right Feb 14 15:52:55 sounds complicated heh Feb 14 15:53:10 I'd forgotten akita was large page. Feb 14 15:53:25 RP: thanks Feb 14 15:53:50 s/akita/ SL-Cxxxx Feb 14 15:53:58 CoreDump|home: It caused me a lot of grief and I ended up borrowing an akita to get the 2.6 driver working with it at all Feb 14 15:54:03 ~lart my lack of libtool knowledge Feb 14 15:54:03 * ibot flings poo at my lack of libtool knowledge Feb 14 15:54:04 CoreDump|home: No. Its only akita Feb 14 15:54:21 RP: JustinP was seeing problems, too on his spitz Feb 14 15:54:35 and perhaps borzoi. Spitz is small page Feb 14 15:54:54 he had the exact same problem AFAIK Feb 14 15:55:05 JustinP: ? Feb 14 15:55:13 If justinp had the same issue it means page size can't be the problem Feb 14 15:55:21 indeed Feb 14 15:55:30 but the flash in spitz is the same as the flash in c7x0 Feb 14 15:55:45 and my c7x0 worked in 2.4 Feb 14 15:55:52 (after using 2.6) Feb 14 15:55:57 interesting Feb 14 15:56:06 as well as it could work with 2.4-crappix Feb 14 15:56:13 koen: indeed Feb 14 15:58:38 RP: maybe it's a kernel 2.6.15 thing. Feb 14 15:59:06 CoreDump|home: Could be. I know jffs2 has got a little more progressive more recently Feb 14 15:59:18 RP, CoreDump|home: no, I didn't have the same problem Feb 14 15:59:28 I'd only tested 2.4 back at say 2.6.11 :) Feb 14 15:59:37 apparently I just needed a newer "boot" partition... Feb 14 15:59:40 =) Feb 14 15:59:47 I've never altered my flash with 2.6 Feb 14 15:59:49 I have no need Feb 14 16:01:06 damn those microdrive users =) Feb 14 16:02:18 ~hug the spitz Feb 14 16:02:20 * ibot hugs the spitz Feb 14 16:02:21 I'd strongly suspect its the page size on akita Feb 14 16:05:03 Is there any indication on the part of the function that failed in the oops? Feb 14 16:06:38 Its scanning the eraseblocks and something in the scanning function failed Feb 14 16:07:05 That would indicate it couldn't read something to do with the format on the disk Feb 14 16:07:20 well, it could read but couldn't understand Feb 14 16:15:10 any idea how to enable D1(printk(KERN_DEBUG "blahh") Feb 14 16:15:42 with CONFIG_LL_DEBUG ? Feb 14 16:17:03 JustinP: where I need to put image to be able to set it as background in e17? Feb 14 16:18:02 JustinP: vera fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/ttf/ and in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/fonts/ ;( Feb 14 16:22:26 * CoreDump|home rebuilds the kernel w/ CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG=3 Feb 14 16:22:52 hrw|work: e uses themes for that stuff I believe... Feb 14 16:23:06 hrw|work: as for the fonts....of they're in both places I suppose that should be fixed Feb 14 16:26:45 CoreDump|home: That looks like one of the mtd debugging statements - it is controlled by a kconfig option? Feb 14 16:27:08 JFFS2_DEBUG= looks likely Feb 14 16:27:29 I'm hoping for CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG=3 to work =) Feb 14 16:28:25 CoreDump|home: be warned that they spew a lot of data Feb 14 16:28:35 heh Feb 14 16:28:43 I'll see Feb 14 16:30:45 ~curse scap for being shit on vga zaurus/2.6 Feb 14 16:30:47 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, scap for being shit on vga zaurus/2.6 ! Feb 14 16:30:47 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31494.png Feb 14 16:32:32 try gpe-screenshot Feb 14 16:32:52 that just requests X for a screenshot Feb 14 16:32:54 hrw|work: I scap all the time Feb 14 16:32:58 works perfectly Feb 14 16:33:13 gpe-screenshot rocks Feb 14 16:33:30 CoreDump|home: gpe-screenshot rocks Feb 14 16:33:37 CoreDump|home: cli version of scap suxx Feb 14 16:33:41 =) Feb 14 16:34:04 the distorted image is really the fault of the hh.org CGI Feb 14 16:34:13 hrw|work: your image works fine for me, X come sup on its own and I get the calibrate screen right off as I should Feb 14 16:34:35 JustinP: fsck.. I will rebuild c7x0 one then Feb 14 16:35:17 hrw|work: it *could* be a problem with the c7x0....as I said, I've never tested on anything but spitz Feb 14 16:35:33 hrw|work: also, you sure you have enough space for the image? the e-image is large Feb 14 16:36:56 JustinP: 64M flash/dev/mtdblock2 54272 33268 21004 61% / Feb 14 16:37:11 JustinP: ok. 53M of flash Feb 14 16:38:16 hmmm Feb 14 16:38:19 fsck Feb 14 16:38:25 some GPE progs still not working Feb 14 16:38:32 why the hell aren't they pulling in their deps? Feb 14 16:38:41 now it says it can't load XPM images Feb 14 16:39:22 what do I need to install for GdkPixmap to work? Feb 14 16:39:41 JustinP: the plugins Feb 14 16:40:01 XorA: what plugins? Feb 14 16:40:09 JustinP: Feb 14 16:40:11 XorA: and what's installing them for the GPE image? Feb 14 16:40:16 JustinP: gdk-loader-* Feb 14 16:41:53 nothing references gdk-loader- in the bb tree... Feb 14 16:42:50 JustinP: include (task|meta)-gpe in (task|meta)-e and use it Feb 14 16:42:50 gdk-pixbuf-loader- Feb 14 16:42:52 JustinP: sorry, mistyped, gdk-pixbuf-loader-* Feb 14 16:46:04 * Pigi is back (gone 04:49:31) Feb 14 16:46:14 See ya all Feb 14 16:47:18 JustinP: e17-gpe-menu-convert.sh does not test does something was already converted? Feb 14 16:49:00 hrw|work: no Feb 14 16:49:09 hrw|work: I'm going to alter it to do just that Feb 14 16:49:39 Converting /usr/share/applications/xmonobut.desktop to xmonobut.eap Feb 14 16:49:40 edje_cc: Error. unable to load image for image "xmonobut.xpm" part entry to /home/root/.e/e/applications/all/xmonobut.eap Feb 14 16:49:43 ERROR: cannot open file /home/root/.e/e/applications/all/xmonobut.eap for READ/WRITE Feb 14 16:50:02 space is not a problem Feb 14 16:53:51 CONFIG_JFFS2_FS_DEBUG=3 didn't produce any new messages grr Feb 14 16:53:54 hrw|work: I know about that one. It can't read xpm files Feb 14 16:54:04 ok Feb 14 16:58:33 cu Feb 14 17:00:22 shadows: PING! Feb 14 17:00:58 shadows: building libsvg-cairo: checking for LIBSVG_CAIRO... Package libsvg was not found in the pkg-config search path. Feb 14 17:05:14 shadows: nm, cancel the PING....looks like RP may have checked in a fix Feb 14 17:05:50 JustinP: yes, that fix is important Feb 14 17:07:13 I figured it had to do with staging... Feb 14 17:07:17 * JustinP rebuild libsvg Feb 14 17:09:04 * Philippe is back (gone 18:24:34) Feb 14 17:11:28 RP: I see you turned on the kexec patch. I'll see if I can test it today. Feb 14 17:12:01 RP: and of you have any pointers on where to look for building the 2.6 kernel module for the remote....please let me know Feb 14 17:12:43 RP: a simple driver to look at perhaps....some pointers on the input system....how to possibly access the data (I seem to remembe ryou saying that the remote was hooked up to the SA1110?) Feb 14 17:17:30 ~lart clueless users too frelling lazy to RTFM Feb 14 17:17:30 * ibot overclocks clueless users too frelling lazy to RTFM until clueless users too frelling lazy to RTFM burns out Feb 14 17:19:34 * CoreDump|home is about to explode Feb 14 17:26:15 error connecting with monotone.vanille.de ... Feb 14 17:26:43 * CoreDump|home curses Feb 14 17:35:26 JustinP: I said it was hooked up to the MAX1111 Feb 14 18:01:35 hi all Feb 14 18:02:27 RP: ah yes, that one, sorry Feb 14 18:05:11 shadows: sorry, didn't get to your bb files Feb 14 18:07:50 RP: ./nodelist.h:220: printk(KERN_NOTICE "Calculated used size %08x != stored used size %08x\n", my_used_size, jeb->used_size); \ Feb 14 18:08:05 that's the last message before the oops Feb 14 18:08:18 it does not crash in the scan function Feb 14 18:08:40 i verified that with a ton of printk's Feb 14 18:10:46 Calculated used size 00000694 != stored used size 00000000 Feb 14 18:11:17 i guess BUG() causes the oops on purpose Feb 14 18:20:02 * france is away: Away Feb 14 18:57:13 eewww Feb 14 18:57:25 kernel build: 2.4.21-rmk1-crus1.4.3 Feb 14 18:59:46 crust? Feb 14 18:59:55 koen: I would love to see ALP screenshots Feb 14 19:02:52 zecke: me too Feb 14 19:03:02 and I wonder when they decide between X and directfb Feb 14 19:03:15 http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2006-February/msg00120.html Feb 14 19:08:19 koen: actually DirectFB is more interesting for Hardware Vendors Feb 14 19:08:40 koen: the superb support for layers... is stuff you most likely want to have Feb 14 19:09:53 directfb is pretty cute Feb 14 19:14:10 koen: e.g. what is quite common is. You have a device that wants h.264 playback Feb 14 19:14:22 CoreDump|home: So 2.4 thinks there's data there but the disk says not. Never good :-/ Feb 14 19:14:25 koen: have acceleration ships and you have a video driver that supports layers Feb 14 19:15:05 koen: with directFB it just works the way you want Feb 14 19:15:09 RP: indeed Feb 14 19:16:03 CoreDump|home: I'm not sure I can be of much help without delving into the code and I don't really have the time for that, particualry given its 2.4 :-/ Feb 14 19:16:16 =( Feb 14 19:17:25 CoreDump|home: You don't want to see my todo list :-/ Feb 14 19:17:36 =) Feb 14 19:19:18 RP: so no pointers on the input driver? I suppose I can just try to find the hinge button code..... Feb 14 19:19:49 JustinP: Look at drivers/input/keyboard/corgi_kbd.c Feb 14 19:20:55 ok Feb 14 19:21:04 will do my best....again... Feb 14 19:21:39 JustinP: I can try and throw some pseduo code together for the remote control if it would help? Feb 14 19:22:27 koen: wasn't it 'merlin'? Feb 14 19:22:32 That would help immensely Feb 14 19:22:49 zecke: vanille is broken Feb 14 19:22:58 ah okay Feb 14 19:23:01 yay! Feb 14 19:23:02 drat Feb 14 19:23:11 * koen has login on his board Feb 14 19:23:22 RP: I know the very generics of what needs to be done....but none of the specifics...if I have pseudo code to fill in and the corgi kbd driver to look at I think I should be able to figure it out Feb 14 19:23:37 hooking up USB VDD to the PSU is bad, right? Feb 14 19:23:39 RP: the task is very daunting to start a driver from nothing.... Feb 14 19:25:27 koen: *sorry* Feb 14 19:27:08 RP: so, yes, I would appreciate an outline very much. I'll try to check out the code and such tonight regardless Feb 14 19:35:08 JustinP: Give me a short while and I'll try and create something Feb 14 19:36:18 RP: thanks a whole bunch, I'll get to work on it tonight Feb 14 19:39:42 koen: somehow the ewi disked if filled with a lot of 'source' Feb 14 19:40:48 'source' as in your pr0n stash, or real source? ;) Feb 14 19:41:16 koen: bittests' source_checker went through all of the ~3000 bb files Feb 14 19:42:18 zecke: can bittest generate a 'known good' repo of .bb files? Feb 14 19:42:42 e.g. copy the files that are to to a seperate dir Feb 14 19:42:53 koen: it could, but it doesn't know much yet Feb 14 19:43:06 koen: we could use the monotone qa stuff to flag broken files Feb 14 19:43:27 zecke: I'd like to have a complete 'audit' of all .bb files, seperating the good from the bad Feb 14 19:44:04 koen: well I 'know' which patches apply, which sources can be fixed Feb 14 19:44:17 koen: which files have a sane use of variables Feb 14 19:44:32 koen: I do not know which files are builable, or install exploitable files Feb 14 19:44:52 running everything through OElint would be a nice start Feb 14 19:45:10 koen: well that is bittest -ofoo.txt content_checker Feb 14 19:45:57 cute Feb 14 19:46:39 ls -la /home/zecke/bitbake/bitbake_qa/*.txt Feb 14 19:46:50 once the patch_checker ran through, I will post these :} Feb 14 19:47:04 meantine I will work on the insane.bbclass Feb 14 19:47:56 zecke: using the monotone cert stuff would be a good idea Feb 14 19:49:23 zecke: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/monotone-devel/2006-02/msg00069.html is a nice thread to read Feb 14 19:49:59 Hm, how do I attach a patch to a bug? Feb 14 19:50:20 DataBeaver: first create the bug, the second visit will should you more options Feb 14 19:50:35 k Feb 14 19:50:46 s/should/show/ Feb 14 19:50:46 koen meant: DataBeaver: first create the bug, the second visit will show you more options Feb 14 19:52:16 zecke: my devboard with a real ide interface arrived today, so I can work on native stuff some more Feb 14 19:52:32 zecke: could be a nice experiment to do some scratchbox like stuff in OE Feb 14 19:54:17 hmmm Feb 14 19:54:39 the only spare IDE disk has 'B0rked' written on it Feb 14 19:56:06 koenheh Feb 14 19:57:35 Does anyone here have experience with DoC devices? Feb 14 19:58:47 DoC? Feb 14 19:58:59 Disk on Chip Feb 14 19:59:00 DiskOnChip Feb 14 19:59:10 braindead flash chip by M-Systems Feb 14 19:59:11 probably the millennium+ variant Feb 14 19:59:32 koen: correct. A 16MB one, connected to the ixp4xx expansion bus. Feb 14 19:59:48 is that the completely unsupported one? Feb 14 20:00:24 * Diskonchip Millennium Plus support by Kalev Lember Feb 14 20:00:28 Apparently not ;) Feb 14 20:01:07 well, afaik there are 2 kinds of m+ chips, a supported one and a unsupported one Feb 14 20:01:17 aha Feb 14 20:01:18 the ipaq h4100 hackers had the unsupported one Feb 14 20:02:05 the 32MB one is unsupported I know Feb 14 20:04:48 Unfortunately, probing with the old driver simply doesn't find it, and the new driver oopses. Feb 14 20:05:54 JustinP: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/corgi_rc.c Feb 14 20:06:52 JustinP: It won't compile and needs a bit of work but a rough framework is there Feb 14 20:09:12 RP: thanks, I'll see if I can get it working tonight after work Feb 14 20:09:55 JustinP: There is going to be an issue with it fighting the sound system for the headphone interrupt Feb 14 20:11:13 JustinP: I'm about to rewrite the headphone interrupt handling anyway so the best soution might be to just comment it out in the sound code Feb 14 20:14:47 hrw|gone: ping Feb 14 20:15:07 mreimer: you're ok to commit to the branch Feb 14 20:15:16 thanks koen, you guessed what I was going to ask :-) Feb 14 20:15:19 :) Feb 14 20:15:53 koen, what do you think about shipping fam083 for h2200 with .15? It's just as stable for me as .13 Feb 14 20:16:27 pb__: Did I understand it correctly when you said that maverickcrunch is softvfp compatible, so a EABI userland can have accelerated FP operations? Feb 14 20:17:02 mreimer: it does seem to fix some bugs Feb 14 20:17:03 okay good nite Feb 14 20:17:23 Why don't I have kbdrate? Feb 14 20:17:30 RP: ok, I'll see what I can do Feb 14 20:17:32 koen: I'll see if uE tagged the tree, and then work up a new .bb Feb 14 20:18:03 mreimer: I haven't heard from the hx4700 people, so lets contain it to h2200 atm Feb 14 20:18:23 koen: given the right library bits, yeah Feb 14 20:18:28 koen: ok. I'll check with tnb Feb 14 20:19:44 pb_: which bits would that be? Feb 14 20:20:19 well, an implementation of the soft-float libcalls that uses maverickcrunch opcodes Feb 14 20:21:05 it that libgcc or glibc? Feb 14 20:21:41 generally libgcc Feb 14 20:22:21 thanks, I'll forward that info to the toolchain hackersh Feb 14 20:23:08 okay, very good Feb 14 20:27:49 koen: when I try to push to oz354fam083 to ewi, nothing goes out, even though I've committed changes to my local db. Does some kind of config need to happen on ewi for me to commit to it? Feb 14 20:28:31 mreimer: it looks like you're only pushing to .dev Feb 14 20:29:13 mreimer: http://pastebin.com/554817 Feb 14 20:29:42 koen: is that output from today? Feb 14 20:29:59 mreimer: try 'monotone sync ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.oz354fam083' Feb 14 20:30:04 ok Feb 14 20:30:06 mreimer: from a few minutes ago Feb 14 20:30:49 there we go Feb 14 20:30:57 hmm, 21 revs out seems like a lot Feb 14 20:31:18 monotone: allowed 'mreimer@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.oz354fam083' excluding '' Feb 14 20:31:43 koen: yeah, it looks different over here this time. So what was I doing wrong? Feb 14 20:31:46 mreimer: were you merging? Feb 14 20:31:55 mreimer: have meld or kdiff3 ready Feb 14 20:32:01 koen: I do Feb 14 20:32:01 mreimer: were you specifying org.openembedded.dev? Feb 14 20:32:31 JustinP: I did merge + update, and was executing the command from my checked-out org.openembedded.oz354fam083 directory Feb 14 20:33:23 mreimer: if you did lots of merges that's why you're pushing a lot Feb 14 20:33:39 JustinP: ah, that's it then Feb 14 20:40:15 koen, hrw|gone: it would be nice to get udev 0.84 into fam083 too Feb 14 20:41:52 koen, does this look right? I don't think anything got pushed. http://pastebin.com/554850 Feb 14 20:42:54 that looks ok Feb 14 20:44:13 mreimer: I'm updating viewtm right now Feb 14 20:44:25 koen: ah, I was wondering why the errors Feb 14 20:44:42 thanks for you help koen Feb 14 20:44:47 that pastebin doesn't list errors :) Feb 14 20:44:54 'successfull exchange' Feb 14 20:45:33 I was confused by the 0 revs written part, but that probably means none were written to my local db, huh? Feb 14 20:45:55 correct Feb 14 20:47:41 mreimer: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 Feb 14 20:48:52 ah good Feb 14 20:49:10 koen, oz354fam083 should be able to build a working h2200 jffs2 rootfs now Feb 14 20:49:19 cool Feb 14 21:01:03 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams Feb 14 21:02:17 * Geo_KM is back Feb 14 21:07:51 mreimer: push, not sync Feb 14 21:08:07 JustinP: that's what I tried first Feb 14 21:08:28 mreimer: you had the wrong branch, rememebr? Feb 14 21:08:52 JustinP: but if I'm pushing from the checked-out branch, I should have to specify a branch, right? Feb 14 21:09:06 from the checked-out branch directory, that is Feb 14 21:10:08 mreimer: for example: monotone push -k justinp@openembedded.org monotone.vanille.de "org.openembedded.{dev,dreambox,oz354fam083}" Feb 14 21:10:50 JustinP: I don't remember having to do that before, but if that makes it work, then I guess I will :-) Feb 14 21:12:09 if you do that once you should be abel to do "monotone push" and have it use the same options. This is just the full command Feb 14 21:13:45 JustinP: ah, that's probably it Feb 14 21:18:11 mreimer: I have shell aliases to push to vanille and ewi ^_^ Feb 14 21:18:16 and pull Feb 14 23:14:29 I got bitbake interactive shell to crash by (accidentally) giving it an unmatched single quote Feb 14 23:15:45 patches welcome Feb 14 23:18:35 wow - we really don't have the i2c tools in the oe repo? Feb 14 23:18:36 hmmm Feb 14 23:18:38 * CosmicPenguin remidies Feb 14 23:37:25 * france is back (gone 05:17:24) Feb 15 00:20:15 I feel like a gentoo user. lol Feb 15 02:13:33 How do I add symbols and non-strip one only package? Feb 15 02:22:32 still having problems with abiword? Feb 15 02:25:17 myself i am not sure if you can build non-stripped packages anymore Feb 15 02:34:39 INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP? Feb 15 02:35:04 does that still work with the new strip-cehck code? Feb 15 02:35:09 check* Feb 15 05:23:11 * emte wonders if pb_ or pb__ is awake Feb 15 05:23:29 night koen|away Feb 15 05:49:41 gosh i'm tired :/ Feb 15 08:16:44 morning all Feb 15 08:16:50 mornin' Feb 15 08:17:18 morning Dirk Feb 15 08:17:33 Hi Liam, welcome back Feb 15 08:17:59 lrg|home: I'am just reading my mails. Thats are good news :) Feb 15 08:18:39 do13: :) Feb 15 08:23:12 lrg|home: Wow, DPM on AC97 is a great step Feb 15 08:26:22 lrg|home: I'am just reading: I'll get the next release out soon - today I feel :) Feb 15 08:26:29 :) Feb 15 08:27:49 do13: yes, with any luck :) Feb 15 08:28:28 do13: I still have to do a codec driver for the wm9712. In the meantime we can use the generic ac97 one. Feb 15 08:34:30 lrg|home: Why a new codec driver? What's the difference? Feb 15 08:37:39 do13: we need to intercept all the mixer controls and build a dpm map. This is not easy with the generic code. Also, by not needing ac97_codec and friends we can save some memory Feb 15 08:40:17 morning Feb 15 08:45:02 lrg|home: Ok. I understand. Did you reproduced the problem with pen down events? Feb 15 08:46:47 do13: sorry, haven't had the chance yet. This is on my large todo list for after FOSDEM. Feb 15 08:47:48 ~lart WinXP for suspending at 100% cpu load Feb 15 08:47:48 * ibot keeps mailing WinXP free America Online CDs until he drowns for suspending at 100% cpu load Feb 15 08:48:26 lrg|home: np Feb 15 08:51:16 morning Feb 15 08:51:29 hey hrw|work Feb 15 08:52:16 hey hrw|work Feb 15 08:53:10 morning Marcin Feb 15 08:58:43 morning all Feb 15 08:58:49 hey RP Feb 15 08:59:49 morning Richard Feb 15 09:07:35 hey, i meet a "as: unrecognized option `-EL' Feb 15 09:07:36 " to prevent me build wrt54oe Feb 15 09:07:54 http://supertank.iodata.jp/products/sotohdlgw/ - nice arm box Feb 15 09:20:45 hrw|work: wow, hard to read Japenese chars Feb 15 09:21:06 minipanda: Xscale/400Mhz, gigabit ethernet, ide, usb 2.0, 128MB ram Feb 15 09:23:12 hrw|work: wow! gigabit ethernet ... Feb 15 09:23:42 * XorA wonders whether an xscale can actually saturate gigabit ethernet link Feb 15 09:23:48 * minipanda try babelfishing context of .jp to .cn Feb 15 09:24:37 XorA: atleast it will not slowdown gigabit switch to fastethernet Feb 15 09:33:15 hi lrg Feb 15 09:33:32 hey pb__ Feb 15 09:34:41 lrg|home: I'm trying to get hold of some samples of the WM8711EDS. Do you know who I should talk to about that? Feb 15 09:34:57 They don't seem to be included in the online ordering on the wolfson website. Feb 15 09:35:57 pb__: I'll find out and email you, it may be a bug in the website. Feb 15 09:36:23 great, thanks Feb 15 09:46:56 hello all Feb 15 09:47:00 hey alan|home Feb 15 09:47:14 yop Xora Feb 15 10:05:39 I get this message very often: consider defining PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc Feb 15 10:05:43 what does it mean? Feb 15 10:08:05 it means there is more than one eligible provider for the virtual/arm-linux-libc-for-gcc virtual package Feb 15 10:08:14 it's pretty harmless; you don't need to take any action Feb 15 10:08:57 thx Feb 15 10:23:02 good morning Feb 15 10:31:44 azureus over ssh with my 170kbps upload is hard to use Feb 15 10:34:31 I can imagine Feb 15 10:35:03 I have only 128kbps upload and gave up on more "bandwith expensive" stuff Feb 15 10:41:13 but it works **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Feb 15 10:59:56 2006