**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Feb 24 10:59:56 2006 Feb 24 11:24:36 * koen moves closer to the train station Feb 24 11:24:38 later all Feb 24 11:25:02 koen|away: later! Feb 24 11:37:26 hi Feb 24 11:57:49 * XorA watches the tumble weed go by Feb 24 11:58:35 * NA|Zzz tosses a few more tumbleweeds around.. Feb 24 12:00:20 hrw|gone: altboot is missing in .oz GPE images, is that intended? Feb 24 12:01:18 CoreDump|home: I still like the 'altboot' name, I should create a neuboot alternative Feb 24 12:01:33 hehe Feb 24 12:01:53 only few people in here are going to "get" this joke =) Feb 24 12:02:17 CoreDump|home: these are mentally challenged anyway :} Feb 24 12:02:19 * zecke is happy Feb 24 12:02:20 * CoreDump|home is still wondering what the "r" in rboot stands for btw Feb 24 12:02:40 what is rboot? :} Feb 24 12:02:57 * CoreDump|home laughs Feb 24 12:02:58 It's missing an 'e' :) Feb 24 12:03:07 well, the script I stole the idea from =) Feb 24 12:03:34 ~lart locale-base Feb 24 12:03:35 * ibot installs PocketPC on locale-base's PDA Feb 24 12:05:40 GPE should offer a "trash old GPE settings" option on first-boot Feb 24 12:06:22 ~lart keylaunch Feb 24 12:06:22 * ibot crushes keylaunch with a full height scsi disk Feb 24 12:09:09 pb__: you are staying the Astrid? So can we count you for Team Opie then? Feb 24 12:09:52 =) Feb 24 12:10:10 is there gonna be an Opie vs GPE rumble in FOSDEM :-) Feb 24 12:10:31 gpe will win i feel Feb 24 12:10:33 hi people! Feb 24 12:10:42 * mithro pokes pb__ Feb 24 12:11:03 gui's at dawn, first to 12 boots :-) Feb 24 12:26:48 XorA: ? Feb 24 12:26:56 mithro: yeah Feb 24 12:27:14 [13:17] gui's at dawn, first to 12 boots :-) Feb 24 12:27:29 mithro: 12 boots instead of 12 rounds Feb 24 12:27:35 zecke: right, sure am Feb 24 12:27:42 guis instead of pistols Feb 24 12:27:49 zecke: I'll be leaving here in about an hour to travel to Brussels. Feb 24 12:27:54 mixing my metaphors badly Feb 24 12:28:40 zecke: and yes, I expect to receive a Team Opie t-shirt upon arrival Feb 24 12:31:31 pb__: it would be too small, they only come in kiddie sizes ;) Feb 24 12:37:04 koen|train: any chance you could make an akita image of your start of angstrom please? Feb 24 12:38:05 ade|desk: when I've sorted out the crud, yes Feb 24 12:38:14 crud ? Feb 24 12:38:30 pb__: i'm in Room 109 Feb 24 12:38:41 how long does it take for the Train? Feb 24 12:38:51 ade|desk: all the loose ends that make it fail Feb 24 12:38:57 mithro: are you in Astrid ? Feb 24 12:39:06 lrg: yes Feb 24 12:39:10 I'm in room 323 at Novotel Feb 24 12:39:23 the one just around the corner? Feb 24 12:39:34 I think so. Feb 24 12:39:38 koen|train: ah ok, is there an open bug report etc ? Feb 24 12:39:38 I'm at the Chi-Chis TexMex restraunt around the corner from that Feb 24 12:39:47 * lrg looks out the window Feb 24 12:40:07 ade|desk: nope Feb 24 12:40:19 fair enough Feb 24 12:40:55 mithro: sms send Feb 24 12:40:56 i'm sitting in the corner with the laptop :P Feb 24 12:41:06 OE flyers? anyone? Feb 24 12:41:13 does the novotel have cheap wireless? Feb 24 12:41:16 mithro: can't see it, I've another hour or 2 to finish my presentation, ('ll be free after that :) Feb 24 12:41:17 damn Feb 24 12:41:24 * koen|train forgot to print OE shirts again Feb 24 12:41:27 mithro: no it's 60 Eu per 7 days Feb 24 12:41:53 the Astrid is 12 EUR per hour or 60 EUR per 7 days Feb 24 12:42:13 mithro: must be thae same service from orange then ? Feb 24 12:42:20 wow, expensive Feb 24 12:42:22 dunno Feb 24 12:42:27 koen|train: yeah! Feb 24 12:42:32 you coming to FOSDEM? Feb 24 12:42:42 yes Feb 24 12:42:58 only 4 hours and ehm... 36 minutes to go by train Feb 24 12:43:24 so how long till you get here? Feb 24 12:43:40 that + 15 minutes to walk from station to hotel Feb 24 12:43:50 so I'll be there around 19.00 Feb 24 12:44:00 ahh okay Feb 24 12:44:06 koen|train: just in time for beer fest :) Feb 24 12:44:09 as I said I'll be in room 109 Feb 24 12:44:15 lrg: yes! Feb 24 12:44:32 do we want to meet in the hotel before the beer fest? Feb 24 12:44:48 lrg: I was planning to go to the Roy at ~20.00 Feb 24 12:44:59 and pobably eat something before thatp Feb 24 12:45:02 mithro: sounds like a plan Feb 24 12:45:23 I'll probably meet up with RP before taht as we are both in Novotel Feb 24 12:45:41 okay Feb 24 12:45:45 what time? Feb 24 12:46:14 eight o'clock? Feb 24 12:46:19 you know what? I really dislike the french language :P Feb 24 12:46:28 mithro: me too Feb 24 12:46:36 who doesn't? Feb 24 12:46:37 koen|train: we're in the wrong part of brussels Feb 24 12:46:45 mithro: I'll be free in about 2 hours, although I'm not sure about RP. I think he arrives at the hotel at about 2pm, but I'm not sure of his schedule Feb 24 12:47:06 well I'll be at the TexMex till my battery goes flat Feb 24 12:47:14 then I'll be in my room at the Astrid Feb 24 12:47:24 mithro, koen|train: 8pm is okay for me Feb 24 12:47:40 okay 8pm out side the Astrid? Feb 24 12:47:46 yes Feb 24 12:48:46 i'm whereing blue and a black full length coat Feb 24 12:48:55 s/whereing/wearing Feb 24 12:49:13 I'll be wearing a green fleece Feb 24 12:49:44 blue + gray coat Feb 24 12:50:13 with a pink rose, and answering to ' the rain in spain stay mainly on the...' Feb 24 12:50:30 ade|desk: heh Feb 24 12:51:15 ade|desk: that pink rose may get you some undesired male attention... Feb 24 12:51:45 koen|train: where are you coming from? Feb 24 12:51:57 ah you mean Mr bond, James bond Feb 24 12:52:01 latex-beamer rocks Feb 24 12:52:11 as well as pdflatex Feb 24 12:52:22 mithro: Enschede, the Netherland Feb 24 12:52:41 mithro: I think you passed Hengelo on the way to WTH Feb 24 12:54:49 koen|train: possibly Feb 24 12:55:37 does the texmex thing have good food? Feb 24 12:56:06 don't just *love* it when your first-boot hangs at the god damn locale-base postinst _yet_ _again_ Feb 24 12:56:27 CoreDump|home: so fix it Feb 24 12:56:27 koen|train: for some definitions of good Feb 24 12:56:41 definately one of the better mexican restraunts I've had in Europe Feb 24 12:56:42 on my corgi it aborts quite soon :) Feb 24 12:56:59 i was told that fixing it was a) non-trivial and b) the postinst can't be run on the host-PC Feb 24 12:57:28 correct Feb 24 12:57:32 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/drives/806d/?cpg=26T Feb 24 12:57:37 it needs ~60 mb of ram to run Feb 24 12:57:42 koen|away: as long as I boot from flash it dies allright, when booted from NFS that is not always the case.. Feb 24 12:57:45 koen|train: but free wireless makes food taste better Feb 24 12:58:39 koen|away: as I see no one really working on that bug,IMO the postinst should be disabled until is has been fixed Feb 24 12:59:53 CoreDump|home: it works great if you have either >64MB of ram or no services running Feb 24 13:00:05 so making a S01locale-base-posting would aslo 'fix' it Feb 24 13:00:29 koen|away: really? Now that would be almost too easy heh Feb 24 13:00:55 maybe the postinst should check the available RAM then Feb 24 13:01:10 and not run when =< 64Mb Feb 24 13:01:13 why does it need so much ram ? Feb 24 13:01:37 ade|desk: because the glibc people think ram grows on trees Feb 24 13:01:53 it doesn't ? Feb 24 13:02:04 on PCs it does =) Feb 24 13:02:12 mithro: okay, very good Feb 24 13:02:20 damn , oh well better go plant the spagetti tree instead Feb 24 13:02:27 CoreDump|home: I've seen it succeed on a h2200, which has 64mb ram. I suspect that's becuase /var wasn't in ram Feb 24 13:02:57 well, -de and -en work sometimes here, too Feb 24 13:03:01 hi lrg Feb 24 13:03:07 needing a lot of ram + writing files to /tmp = OOM Feb 24 13:03:09 -fr (why is fr in the image anyways) always b0rks Feb 24 13:03:31 he pb Feb 24 13:03:37 hey pb__ Feb 24 13:03:38 yo woglinde Feb 24 13:03:51 pb__: are you in Brussels ? Feb 24 13:03:59 * koen|train changes trains Feb 24 13:04:02 later all Feb 24 13:04:06 cu Feb 24 13:04:06 see ya! Feb 24 13:04:07 koen *g* Feb 24 13:04:22 lrg: not yet, I'm still at my office. leaving in about 15 minutes to catch the train. Feb 24 13:04:39 pb__: ah, i hope your trains not delayed. Feb 24 13:06:27 hm cant make it to brussels Feb 24 13:07:00 maybee next year Feb 24 13:11:05 lrg: me too. should arrive in Brussels centre at about 2000h local time, I think. Feb 24 13:13:51 pb__: excellent, Were all meeting up at the astrid at 8 for the beer fest, you should just be in time. Feb 24 13:14:58 lrg: okay, very good. fwiw, my cellphone number is +44 7973 869202; send me a text or something if your plans change. Feb 24 13:15:44 okay will do Feb 24 13:16:10 pb__: my number is +44 07974125388 Feb 24 13:19:54 what's the easiest way to put OE 'code' in latex without upsetting the parser? Feb 24 13:21:12 koen|tra1n: lgrind? Feb 24 13:22:16 that'd be a bit over the top Feb 24 13:26:49 lrg: rock Feb 24 13:26:53 * pb__ leaving now Feb 24 13:26:54 later all Feb 24 13:28:44 zecke: it just seems to dislike the '_' Feb 24 13:29:14 pb__: later Feb 24 13:29:15 \_? Feb 24 13:29:23 yeah Feb 24 13:46:03 koen|train: how much does wireless on the trains cost Feb 24 13:46:41 mithro: I think it is GPRS Feb 24 13:46:48 mithro: and he got a flat rate iIRC Feb 24 13:47:29 * ade|desk would love GPRS flat rate like koen's Feb 24 13:55:26 bastard, i would love flat rate GPRS :P Feb 24 13:57:30 "- I am working with: 2.4.27-vrs1-ATMEL, gcc 2.95.3, AT91RM9200." Feb 24 13:57:40 "I am trying to understand how to speed up the boot sequence, I have read Feb 24 13:57:40 some mails and docs but I do not really understand what I have to do." Feb 24 13:58:38 "don't start so much userspace" ;) Feb 24 14:05:03 re Feb 24 14:16:48 zecke|work: get a faster everything? Feb 24 14:21:21 lrg: well i'm going to have to abandon the TexMex soon to recharge my battery Feb 24 14:21:28 (in about 30 minutes) Feb 24 14:21:40 I'm going home now - packing some things Feb 24 14:25:56 mithro: RP and I are coming down to meet in about 10 mins Feb 24 14:26:00 morning Feb 24 14:26:58 lrg: okay Feb 24 14:42:32 * XorA could do with a script to tidy work/* Feb 24 14:56:43 * koen|770 is nearing the belgian border Feb 24 14:58:41  Feb 24 15:28:52 njs: feature request = adding a "mode" of some kind that disallows pulls/pushes and prints an user-defined error message Feb 24 15:29:12 njs: for when things get borked and developers need to alert users about downtime. it's an idea anyways Feb 24 15:35:50 shadows: thats kind of pointless for an scm, if its borked just checkout yesterdays Feb 24 15:36:33 there should be a way to slowly ween people from the p2p system Feb 24 15:39:40 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf3206e86... 10/packages/tuxbox/libdvbsi++.bb: libdvbsi++: upgrade to 20060215 to fix shared library packaging Feb 24 15:39:44 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r62671d6e... 10/packages/meta/dreambox-image.bb: dreambox-image: follow new naming scheme of enigma2 plugins Feb 24 15:39:58 cool Feb 24 15:40:00 the hotel next door has free wifi! Feb 24 15:41:56 mithro: excellent, nice of them to let you use ut :) Feb 24 15:43:50 he he, it just an open access point Feb 24 15:44:15 * JustinP hopes everyone has fun Feb 24 15:44:33 * lrg will be booking into astrid next year for free wifi Feb 24 15:44:51 he he might not be working then Feb 24 15:45:14 and i doubt it works in many other rooms of the hotel Feb 24 15:48:38 hey erm, should i still be following koen's instructions? Feb 24 15:54:06 hey pb__ you arrived yet? Feb 24 16:42:54 mithro_: RP will be meeting us later on tonight, do you know how to get to the beer fest ? Feb 24 16:43:44 I will leave now torwards the airport Feb 24 16:43:50 cya soon Feb 24 16:46:10 Have fun everybody Feb 24 16:50:14 lrg: nope Feb 24 16:50:51 mithro: ok, I'll find out Feb 24 16:51:44 lrg: i was just going to get a taxi Feb 24 16:51:56 if there are others there it will be fairly cheap Feb 24 16:53:50 rp dealing with his server? Feb 24 16:53:55 mithro: I never realised it was that far Feb 24 16:54:14 mithro: no openhanded are all heading out together Feb 24 16:54:54 mithro: can you google map it for me, i'm still busy with my presentation. thanks Feb 24 16:57:07 lrg: it's far? Feb 24 16:58:56 mithro: I don't know where it is :( I'll check in 5 minutes and get back Feb 24 17:08:55 i can't figure how to get google maps to work with europe Feb 24 17:11:42 mithro: me neither, i'll try some others Feb 24 17:20:59 mithro: I've just checked multimap and it looks within walking distance Feb 24 17:21:19 mithro: I'll ask for directions at my hotel reception Feb 24 17:23:42 lrg: okay Feb 24 17:34:02 * lrg -> dinner Feb 24 17:47:57 hi all Feb 24 17:48:01 * koen is in brussels now Feb 24 17:49:42 mithro: the beerfest is well within walking distance Feb 24 17:51:43 koen: okay Feb 24 17:52:11 I'm in 502 Feb 24 17:54:41 mithro: 20:00 outside of the astrid, right? Feb 24 17:59:02 yes Feb 24 17:59:08 koen: you are at the Astrid? Feb 24 17:59:09 * emte wonders if koen has any sprouts yet .... Feb 24 18:01:55 heh - I was wondering too Feb 24 18:02:00 thats too easy a joke Feb 24 18:02:10 mithro: yes, I'm at the astrid Feb 24 18:02:30 koen: i'm in 109 Feb 24 18:03:46 mithro: shall I come down to your room? Feb 24 18:05:28 koen: up to you I have an open access point in opposite my room and just watching the simpsons Feb 24 18:07:37 Good evening all Feb 24 18:10:13 I want to create a customized bootstrap-image with a customized busybox as well... Feb 24 18:11:00 What would be the correct way to do so (without changing the task-bootstrap / busybox config in the original bb files ? Feb 24 18:15:46 mithro: ok, I'll join you for the simpsons Feb 24 18:18:51 uv1: copy them Feb 24 18:33:50 re Feb 24 18:49:15 mithro, koen|away: heading for astrid soon. Feb 24 18:49:23 cu# Feb 24 19:20:41 is it possible to install apps onto the microdrive? Feb 24 19:20:46 there is very little room on the flash Feb 24 19:20:59 * tigger^ using openzaurus on a borzoi Feb 24 19:22:05 this is not a distribution support channel. Feb 24 19:22:19 if you arent building things with oe, this isnt the place to ask. #openzaurus would be the place Feb 24 19:22:27 oki Feb 24 19:22:38 thanks Feb 24 20:04:53 shadows: hmm, yeah, I can see how that'd be handy... can you file a bug, so we don't lose it? Feb 24 20:42:52 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r75470ef0... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot_0.0.0.bb altboot_0.0.5-rc4.bb): altboot: update the postinst/rm again for spitz, if installing to flash on root just do update-alternatives Feb 24 22:52:30 hi Feb 24 23:00:41 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re2c19ea6... 10/ (31 files in 3 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Added support for DSM-G600, and updated to 2.6.16-rc4-git5 Feb 24 23:01:12 *31 files*?? Feb 24 23:01:32 perhaps those patches should be stored on a server (like RP does) Feb 24 23:02:55 +mhentges@mhcln01:..ded.dev/packages/altboot >find .|wc -l Feb 24 23:02:55 46 Feb 24 23:02:58 *cough* Feb 24 23:03:54 find . -type f |wc -l Feb 24 23:03:54 34 Feb 24 23:03:58 *phew* =) Feb 24 23:04:27 hehe Feb 24 23:04:39 well, it really should have had its own SCM ;-) Feb 24 23:05:18 oh it has, but having it in OE makes rebuilding easier =) Feb 24 23:08:01 heh Feb 24 23:28:54 hey all Feb 24 23:29:46 hi lrg Feb 24 23:29:55 hi CoreDump|home Feb 24 23:31:41 * lrg is just back from FOSDEM beer fest where RP, koen, mickeyl, do13, greentux, pb, mithro and lala have all been sampling the fine beer Feb 24 23:32:29 ANd what in good gravy are you doing chatting? Feb 24 23:33:00 CosmicPenguin: ah, I'm a lightweight and have to be sober for my presentation tomorrow. :) Feb 24 23:33:15 they are now all away to mcdonalds Feb 24 23:34:04 CosmicPenguin: being a light weight means I'll be going to sleep soon. such is life.... Feb 24 23:34:36 night all Feb 24 23:35:09 night Feb 24 23:37:35 heh Feb 24 23:37:43 * koen|away only has a presentation on sunday Feb 24 23:38:00 although lrg threatened to get me really drunk on saturday evening Feb 24 23:38:14 its good for you Feb 24 23:38:19 focuses your mind Feb 24 23:40:00 * koen|away will go into a deep, deep sleep now Feb 24 23:42:37 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r66ef9079... 10/packages/altboot/ (7 files in 3 dirs): altboot: update to 0.0.5-rc5. This version is known to work with kernel 2.4 an 2.6 (all plugins) on Akita Feb 24 23:42:45 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rc149c9b8... 10/packages/altboot/files/ (4 files in 2 dirs): altboot: Add experimental (IOW untested) borzoi and c7x0 configs Feb 25 00:03:40 I love the irony of this spam "Get rid of spam now! Buy our spam reduction software!" Feb 25 00:04:34 =) Feb 25 00:41:25 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r28833a9a... 10/packages/dbus/ (6 files in 2 dirs): dbus: add 0.61 Feb 25 00:41:29 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r756311ca... 10/packages/gaim/gaim.inc: gaim: split out plugins into separate packages Feb 25 00:41:33 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rb98e9a2b... 10/packages/gaim/ (files/gevolution-eds-dbus.patch gaim_cvs.bb): gaim-cvs: make the gevolution plugin compile against eds-dbus Feb 25 03:21:32 * france is back (gone 24:20:30) Feb 25 05:29:48 that was quick Feb 25 06:13:35 * france is away: Away Feb 25 08:38:04 * france is back (gone 02:24:29) Feb 25 08:38:23 * france is away: Away Feb 25 09:06:54 hi Feb 25 09:07:15 alsasound doesnt work with latest zaurus kernel Feb 25 09:07:26 alsa couldn find the soundcard Feb 25 09:41:03 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r493b5d46... 10/packages/busybox/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add sysctl applet to slugos **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Feb 25 10:59:57 2006