**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 10 10:59:57 2006 Mar 10 11:13:42 good night, folks. ;) Mar 10 11:15:44 XorA: echo "update gnupg to 1.4.2 atleast because of security bug"|mail Pawel Osiczko // my method Mar 10 11:16:12 * hrw|work prefer to minimize NMU Mar 10 11:17:59 pushed changes Mar 10 11:19:19 hrw|work: I prefer to send patch saying, please ok this :-) Mar 10 11:19:29 hrw|work: but there are some complex patches in there :-( Mar 10 11:19:33 hrw|work: I dont understand Mar 10 11:50:34 any recommendations for cf wifi cards? seems like my sandisk connect didn't survive that well the trip on the washing and drying machines Mar 10 11:51:13 Bernardo: oh, I did that to my wcf-11 :-) Mar 10 11:51:15 any prism2 will work - then select smallest/lowest power one Mar 10 11:51:45 My wife came to me this weekend with "guess what was in your shirt pocket?" Mar 10 11:51:57 Bernardo: left mine in my combats pockets Mar 10 11:52:05 The card sometimes work, but for less than 1-2 minutes Mar 10 11:52:15 I guess the warranty is voided this time... :) Mar 10 11:52:30 Bernardo: similar symptoms here, works until it heats up Mar 10 11:53:16 well, time to try and build the rt2570 driver for oz... Mar 10 11:54:19 Bernardo: buy that 802l.11g card and make it work, making us all happy Mar 10 11:54:22 I do know it gets powered, so if I can get the driver to build for 2.4.20 (or if I can wait for kernel 2.6) I don't need to buy a cf card Mar 10 11:54:30 I have a 2570 based usb key Mar 10 11:55:01 but the rt2570 driver had endian problems, and didn't build for 2.4.x kernels Mar 10 11:55:19 I was waiting for them to finish the new generation driver Mar 10 11:55:20 Im guesing a cardbus card wont work on Z :-( Mar 10 11:56:15 a cardbus card won't work, you're rigth Mar 10 11:56:28 a pcmcia-16 card with a adapter should work Mar 10 11:56:35 all you need is the adapter... :) Mar 10 11:57:00 Bernardo: I have had an adapter for months Mar 10 11:57:01 but since there aren't any 802.11g pcmcia-16 cards that I know of... Mar 10 12:05:04 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf6c61bf7... 10/packages/dropbear/ (20 files in 5 dirs): dropbear: added 0.48 and unified all recipes/patches Mar 10 12:05:06 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9e619bdc... 10/packages/ (ttf-fonts/ttf-dejavu-sans-mono-lite_2.2.bb meta/task-opie.bb): ttf-dejavu-sans-mono-lite dropped - it never worked like I wanted Mar 10 12:05:14 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7dbf57aa... 10/packages/ttf-fonts/ (ttf-dejavu_2.2.bb ttf-dejavu_2.3.bb): ttf-dejavu: updated to 2.3 Mar 10 12:11:16 cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: cvsproxy: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Mar 10 12:11:20 ~lart sf.net Mar 10 12:11:21 * ibot urinates on sf.net Mar 10 12:11:28 ~snack Mar 10 12:11:30 * ibot snack? yes yeaaas yeaaaaaaaaaaas pleaaase :P Mar 10 12:12:01 lol Mar 10 12:13:29 doing bitbake -D -D -D -D meta-opie-all now Mar 10 12:13:55 again refused to use rdepends in bbshell Mar 10 12:15:24 problem is in shell.... Mar 10 12:15:31 NOTE: package qpe-vexed-levels-2.1Beta1-r1: task do_fetch: failed Mar 10 12:15:31 ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting Mar 10 12:15:31 NOTE: package qpe-vexed-levels-2.1Beta1: failed Mar 10 12:15:31 ERROR: Build of meta-opie-all failed Mar 10 12:15:37 cmdline is ok Mar 10 12:16:39 morning all Mar 10 12:17:55 hi dirk Mar 10 12:18:09 Hey Marcin Mar 10 12:20:25 hey Dirk Mar 10 12:21:07 our git fetcher use revs? like "git://GIT-TREE;rev=34853523e"? Mar 10 12:24:34 hrw|work: tag Mar 10 12:26:56 ok Mar 10 12:27:03 no single rev? Mar 10 12:27:11 hrw|work: tag is a rev AFAIK Mar 10 12:28:39 ah. never used git for more then 30 minutes Mar 10 12:30:20 hey Liam Mar 10 12:41:17 lrg: any luck on that bug? Mar 10 12:41:42 XorA: the mplayer freeze bug ? Mar 10 12:42:23 lrg: the closing of audio device stopping all output forever until jack function is changed Mar 10 12:43:57 XorA: not yet, I'm fixing some other bugs first. Mar 10 12:44:19 XorA: i should get a chance to look at corgi tonight Mar 10 12:44:43 lrg: Ive got a work around involving alt-tab and alsamixer for now :-) Mar 10 12:45:16 cool, as I don't have a corgi, I may need some debug info from you. Mar 10 12:46:50 XorA: can you send me the output of amixer and cat /sys/devices/platform/soc-audio/dpm when the audio doesn't work after the first close Mar 10 12:47:07 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r6a8cfaed... 10/packages/tuxbox/dvbsnoop.bb: dvbsnoop: upgrade to version 20060204 Mar 10 12:47:13 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r344f2932... 10/packages/twisted/twisted-web2_0.1.bb: twisted-web2: added missing dependency to twisted Mar 10 12:47:17 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf93c10bc... 10/packages/twisted/twisted-native_2.1.0.bb: twisted-native: added missing dependency to zope-interface-native Mar 10 12:47:23 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r59cbc9b6... 10/packages/linux/linux-dm7025.bb: linux-dm7025: update to 2.6.12-r4: use newer patches and newer config Mar 10 12:47:31 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * ra7654eda... 10/conf/machine/dm7025.conf: machine/dm7025.conf: add some optional useful kernel modules Mar 10 12:47:37 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r47154865... 10/packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb: enigma2: upgrade to 20060307 Mar 10 12:47:44 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r572e7a1a... 10/packages/check/check_0.9.2.bb: check: stage files Mar 10 12:47:49 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r24b19584... 10/packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: dreambox-dvb-modules: upgrade to 20060306 Mar 10 12:48:38 lrg: May I ask about the wm9712? :) Mar 10 12:49:48 do13: doing that now. it's working well on mainstone. I don't have time to test on tosa until later next week. Mar 10 12:50:37 lrg: ok. I can do some testing work Mar 10 12:50:40 do13: btw, can you try adjusting the mask module parameter for the LCD touch noise. Mar 10 12:51:01 do13: I'd forgotten that I'd already implemented it ;) Mar 10 12:51:22 do13: the mask parameter is connected to the mask pin for LCD noise Mar 10 12:51:40 lrg: email address to send to? Mar 10 12:51:58 XorA: liam.girdwood@wolfsonmicro.com Mar 10 12:52:38 lrg: yep. Can you send me the new touch driver, because the older driver has the bug with the adc reading Mar 10 12:54:10 do13: i checked the adc read and it does use the mutex for digitiser protection. so I'm not sure yet why the readings were off by so much until i can test next week. Mar 10 12:54:35 do13: i'll send the latest code later today Mar 10 12:54:53 lrg: thx Mar 10 12:56:37 lrg: Is this related with pen_probably_down and pen_is_dow flags? Mar 10 12:57:11 lrg: If I remeber rightly your only 1/2 mile up road, so if occasionally corgi access is needed there is always lunch times Mar 10 12:57:18 do13: I'm not sure as i've only had time to check the mutex Mar 10 12:58:21 XorA: indeed, thats good to know Mar 10 12:58:55 lrg: You checked codec_sem? Mar 10 12:59:19 do13: yes Mar 10 13:00:21 lrg: I checkd this a while ago and found this is correct Mar 10 13:01:19 do13: it must be something else, as it seems ok on mainstone Mar 10 13:05:18 yay! Mar 10 13:05:22 * koen|work heads home Mar 10 13:05:56 lrg: mail send, let me know if it doesnt arrive in 10 mins or so, my mail system is a buit hacky Mar 10 13:06:11 ok Mar 10 14:05:20 hi, folks. Happy weekend .. ;) Mar 10 14:05:50 hi leoncamel Mar 10 14:06:36 leoncamel: I have 2h @work before weekend :( Mar 10 14:07:55 hi, Bernardo . Mar 10 14:08:13 hrw|work: 4 hours here Mar 10 14:08:28 and my inlaws arrive tomorrow, so no weekend for me... :) Mar 10 14:08:51 heh Mar 10 14:09:07 Bernardo: no weekend for me partially too - Ania is sick (got a flu) Mar 10 14:09:15 :) hehe.. Mar 10 14:10:21 hrw|work, OH.. what a pitty . :) Mar 10 14:14:57 BTW, I got a interesting question: what is the price of the BMW Z4 there ? ;) Mar 10 14:20:32 XorA: still no email :( Mar 10 14:22:16 lrg: crappit whered it go :-) Mar 10 14:23:36 hrw|work: sorry to hear that Mar 10 14:23:45 happens Mar 10 14:32:24 lrg: Im installing sftp so I can resend you the mail :-) Mar 10 14:38:27 lrg: resent Mar 10 14:41:40 XorA: got it. thanks Mar 10 15:02:16 * france is back (gone 09:45:22) Mar 10 15:09:12 heh.. I was informed that I will get new coworker (php programmer). but noone informed me about him before.. I'm the only one php programmer here. Mar 10 15:42:59 jo koen Mar 10 15:43:02 hi koen Mar 10 15:43:06 hey woglinde & hrw|work Mar 10 15:43:14 ~lart traffic + rain Mar 10 15:43:14 * ibot beats the living hamstercrap out of traffic + rain Mar 10 15:43:21 *g* umpc Mar 10 15:43:27 koen we have snow Mar 10 15:43:46 I had that earlier today Mar 10 15:43:50 but it melted Mar 10 15:44:32 * france is away: Away Mar 10 15:49:45 jesus what stupid and dont really new use cases intel has fotr umpc Mar 10 15:54:03 morning Mar 10 15:54:25 mroning Mar 10 16:06:49 RP: ping Mar 10 16:30:59 cu Mar 10 16:52:34 * CosmicPenguin assumes that python strings understand escaped hex sequences Mar 10 17:05:40 if a DEPENDS on b, does that imply RDEPENDS? Mar 10 17:07:14 is the sandisk connect plus fully supported now? Mar 10 17:13:43 hello, can anybody help a newbee to compile the simplest hello.c file with bitbake for a Z ? Mar 10 17:17:11 everything seems to be installed, but it complains about a .bb file, and the wiki is quiet hard for me Mar 10 17:18:39 "it complains about a .bb file"? do you want people to just take a wild guess as to wht the problem is, or were you planning on actually giving details / error messages? Mar 10 17:18:51 heh Mar 10 17:19:08 okok Mar 10 17:19:39 bitbake nano -> ERROR: Edit your conf/local.conf: BBFILES Mar 10 17:19:39 NOTE: exceptions.SystemExit:1 while evaluating: Mar 10 17:19:39 ${@bb.fatal('Edit your conf/local.conf: BBFILES')} Mar 10 17:20:00 I understand I have no .bb Mar 10 17:20:16 and did you edit your conf/local.conf? Mar 10 17:20:23 but how create one for a helloworld.c compilation Mar 10 17:20:27 ah, you do need a .bb file Mar 10 17:20:29 yes Mar 10 17:20:43 I guess Mar 10 17:20:58 in the .bb file you specify where is the source, what methods to use to build and install it, etc. Mar 10 17:21:32 is there exemples for a simple soft anywhere Mar 10 17:21:37 and he's still not going to be able to compile hello world without a toolchain. he needs to set BBFILES so it can build dependencies Mar 10 17:21:48 uhhh.. there are like over 2000 .bb files you can read Mar 10 17:21:54 so yes, i'd say there are examples Mar 10 17:22:07 okok Mar 10 17:22:26 sorry , I'm really newbee Mar 10 17:22:49 as a "newb", i can tell you the learning curve is steep, but after you climb it OE is pretty awesome. Mar 10 17:23:57 kergoth, can you offer any porting advice? i'm trying just to bring up a PPC toolchain. Mar 10 17:24:24 that's a pretty broad question. Mar 10 17:24:34 what sort of issues are you running into? Mar 10 17:24:37 yeah, i realize that. Mar 10 17:25:10 i started by creating new a machine def in the right conf/ dir. Mar 10 17:25:27 right, good. and set TARGET_OS and TARGET_ARCH appropriately I presume Mar 10 17:25:35 yeah. Mar 10 17:25:58 where is it possible to find thse 2000 .bb files Mar 10 17:26:07 more or less, this is about as far as i've gotten, i'm embarrassed to say. Mar 10 17:26:14 trucmuch: in the openembedded repository. www.openembedded.org. read GettingStarted Mar 10 17:26:29 what's next? i don't want to worry about the image just yet, just the chain. Mar 10 17:26:35 HopsNBarley: okay, i'd advise doing a bitbake virtual/[your target arch]-[your target os]-gcc Mar 10 17:26:41 thats the toolchain target Mar 10 17:26:49 do i need to define my own distribution? Mar 10 17:26:53 withhout the brackets, naturally Mar 10 17:26:59 kergoth: thanks .... I have to read it again I think :-) Mar 10 17:27:04 nah, you can use DISTRO="generic" i think it is Mar 10 17:27:07 ah! i didn't think about specifying the target directly. Mar 10 17:27:28 very helpful. thanks. Mar 10 17:27:34 no problem Mar 10 17:28:14 trucmuch: bitbake is just the build tool. openembedded is the classes used to actually build things, as well as package metadata. its likely that you want both, unless you want to start from scratch and obtain a toolchain from elsewhere Mar 10 17:28:18 trucmuch: its really up to you Mar 10 17:28:55 normally one would use a usually makefile or autoconf/automake or whatever for the actual application, then would use oe to build/package/distribute that for use on the target Mar 10 17:29:00 hey kergoth Mar 10 17:29:08 but theres nothing stopping you from adding com pile lines to your .bb directly Mar 10 17:29:10 hey koen Mar 10 17:30:25 ok thanks Mar 10 17:31:47 kergoth, "ERROR: Nothing provides dependency virtual/powerpc-linux-gcc Mar 10 17:31:47 " Mar 10 17:32:17 i thought that woulda worked ); Mar 10 17:32:46 it should have. when it printed the summary of your configuration, did it show 'powerpc' as the TARGET_ARCH, and 'linux' as the TARGET_OS? Mar 10 17:32:47 is it powerpc-linux-gnu ? Mar 10 17:32:53 yeah. Mar 10 17:32:56 no, -gnu is an autoconf thing Mar 10 17:32:58 oe doesnt use it Mar 10 17:33:12 hmm Mar 10 17:33:31 would a few --debugs /-v help at all? Mar 10 17:35:01 make sure your BBPATH includes the dir taht conf/local.conf is in, along with the oe dir. make sure that your OEFILES in your local.conf is correct Mar 10 17:35:11 * kergoth shrugs Mar 10 17:35:19 havent messed with oe in a year, i'm rusty Mar 10 17:35:36 thanks. i'll do that. i'm not even metal yet (-; Mar 10 17:35:53 hehe Mar 10 17:36:31 hi, folks. how can I install familiar 0.8.2 into Sharp Zaurus SL5500 (collie) ? Mar 10 17:37:02 leoncamel: try #familiar Mar 10 17:38:36 .. why would you want to? Mar 10 17:38:50 bleh, mornings are evil Mar 10 17:44:32 kergoth, how about target_vendor? does that matter? Mar 10 17:45:35 kergoth: sorry for the "where can I find .bb files" they were too close to me !!!! :-) Mar 10 17:53:43 hi kergoth Mar 10 17:55:24 HopsNBarley: nope, thats optional, just adds something to the compiler prefix. i.e. i686-redhat-linux-gcc or whatever Mar 10 17:55:32 hey pb__ Mar 10 18:05:34 bye Mar 10 18:36:13 still no love with the powerpc toolchain. Mar 10 18:36:38 i don't think something is set correctly/unset yet. while baking, some of the packages give me this error: Mar 10 18:36:40 what hapens if you 'bitbake nano', as the gettings tarted guide descsribes? Mar 10 18:36:43 ah Mar 10 18:36:47 DEBUG: executing anonymous function: incompatible with host powerpcunknown-linux Mar 10 18:37:14 any tips on tracking this back? Mar 10 18:37:38 it looks like you didnt set TARGET_ARCH correctly. paste the exact line here Mar 10 18:38:28 TARGET_ARCH = "powerpc" Mar 10 18:39:06 this is in the conf/machine/foo.conf file i wrote. Mar 10 18:39:17 and you have MACHINE = "foo"? Mar 10 18:40:04 yeah, in conf/auto.conf Mar 10 18:40:16 i dunno then. Mar 10 18:40:27 grep around the .conf files for "unknown"? *shrug* Mar 10 18:40:41 using debug, it seems to pick up the right conf files. i.e. is does read the foo.conf file, and then the file that includes. Mar 10 18:40:57 what about TARGET_PREFIX? Mar 10 18:41:24 read bitbake.conf in oe/conf Mar 10 18:42:54 kergoth, thanks for the help. do you do any consulting? Mar 10 18:44:35 have done a bit in the past, not so much lately, got burned out on coding. now code 9-6 at the day job and dont touch code after that. heh Mar 10 18:59:04 if i wanted to bake the toolchain directly, i'd start with cross-initial? Mar 10 19:06:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r326eb2db... 10/packages/gpe-bootsplash/files/angstrom/splash-l.svg: gpe-bootsplash: update angstrom splash-l.svg Mar 10 19:07:01 HopsNBarley: oe knows to obey the proper order when building a toolchain. i wouldnt advise doing it one package at a time Mar 10 19:10:45 just thinking of a debugging strategy... Mar 10 19:12:31 what type of debugging, there are a few builtin systems Mar 10 19:12:48 getting warmer... Mar 10 19:14:28 setting TARGET_VENDOR = "unknown" causes HOST_SYS == powerpcunknown-linux-gcc. so maybe it'll get a little closer now. Mar 10 19:15:48 ? Mar 10 19:17:09 emte, i'm trying to build a powerpc toolchain. Mar 10 19:17:54 HopsNBarley: try TARGET_VENDOR="" Mar 10 19:18:48 ah Mar 10 19:20:24 HopsNBarley: yes, once again, thats the entire point of target vendor, to insert a vendor string into the compiler prefix. Mar 10 19:26:50 yeah, i was capable of that fix (-; Mar 10 20:10:47 03mgoebl 07org.oe.dev * r7e0ea125... 10/packages/lirc/lirc-modules_0.8.0.bb: Mar 10 20:10:49 lirc/lirc-modules_0.8.0.bb: nslu2: Do not show cpu activity on IR led Mar 10 20:10:51 - nslu2: Set ready LED to normal-on after module load, Mar 10 20:10:53 don't show cpu activity Mar 10 20:10:55 - Change maintainer with permission by Michael Lauer (again) Mar 10 20:11:13 03mgoebl 07org.oe.dev * rc6b80233... 10/packages/lirc/lirc_0.8.0.bb: Mar 10 20:11:17 lirc/lirc_0.8.0.bb: Install lircexec.init for every platform, SRC_URI was wrong Mar 10 20:11:19 - Install lircexec.init for every platform Mar 10 20:11:21 - Correct SRC_URI to include lircexec.init for every platform (Thanks Holger) Mar 10 20:11:27 - RRECOMMENDed lirc-exec for lirc (because it was included in earlier packages, Mar 10 20:11:29 and the 0.8.0 package is more fine-granular) Mar 10 20:11:31 - Add HOMEPAGE Mar 10 20:20:46 heisann! Mar 10 20:24:01 do I need bitbake 1.3.3 for the recent oe to build? Mar 10 20:25:48 you should use bitbake from SVN for the .dev branch Mar 10 20:26:18 when I try to build a bootstrap-image for spitz with openzaurus-3.5.4 distro I get a whole lot of "unsatisfied recommendation for ..." warnings.. Mar 10 20:26:29 oh, ok, I will try that.. Mar 10 20:54:28 hrw|gone: what is the state on the RDEPENDS bug? Mar 10 21:04:26 I'm trying to set up a powerpc-linux-uclibc environment, but the uclibc build can't find uClibc.config. Can someone point me in the right direction? Mar 10 21:05:07 ecc = HopsNBarley ? Mar 10 21:05:22 emte: ??? Mar 10 21:07:13 just wondering where all the powerpc build questions are comming from today ... Mar 10 21:07:21 maybe this is powerpc day? Mar 10 21:09:12 hi zecke Mar 10 21:09:19 ecc: create one for your architecture Mar 10 21:09:58 JustinP: did you see my note about the failing e-image build? Mar 10 21:10:12 zecke: where does it go? (sorry, I'm a total OE newb) Mar 10 21:10:51 ecc: packages/uclibc/uclibc-THE-VERSION Mar 10 21:11:03 tnx Mar 10 21:11:44 ecc: OE uses a system called OVERRIDES. Depending on your hardware, configuration, etc. different files/configurations can be used Mar 10 21:11:52 zecke, were you building from current cvs for e-image? Mar 10 21:12:12 emte: I think so Mar 10 21:12:46 zecke, i am not sure if the changes have propigated yet, but there was talk of changing/updating some of the auto tools stuff ... Mar 10 21:13:02 ecc: e.g. SRC_URI_arm = "file://foo.patch;patch=1" will apply a patch if TARGET_ARCH is arm Mar 10 21:13:05 if that coincides with your fail Mar 10 21:13:16 ecc: sample applies to files in the filesystem Mar 10 21:14:05 the xcb xrender stuff may be active as well now too Mar 10 21:17:16 emte: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=4&logfile=20060310222209.log Mar 10 21:17:22 * emte grumbles Mar 10 21:17:23 emte: the build can be followed there Mar 10 21:17:46 common pass the test Mar 10 21:18:21 zecke, you just restart it? Mar 10 21:18:23 ah well a gconf-dbus-2 issue :} Mar 10 21:18:26 yes Mar 10 21:18:29 and it failed Mar 10 21:19:13 will start from a fresh tree Mar 10 21:22:50 whee Mar 10 21:22:53 getting closer Mar 10 21:22:58 NOTE: exceptions.Exception:variable HOST_NONSYSV references itself! while evaluating: Mar 10 21:22:58 ${HOST_NONSYSV} Mar 10 21:23:05 atleast that makes sense :) Mar 10 21:25:16 zecke: yes....although your problem is with gpe stuff, not e stuff.... Mar 10 21:25:21 zecke: it compiles fine for me.... Mar 10 21:25:46 JustinP: well the effect is a unbuildable e-image Mar 10 21:26:22 zecke: ach Mar 10 21:26:36 darn it, I forgot to add the preferred versions it needs... Mar 10 21:26:58 zecke: what branch was that> Mar 10 21:26:58 ? Mar 10 21:27:26 no...wait...no, I didn't.... Mar 10 21:27:28 WTF Mar 10 21:27:30 JustinP: dev Mar 10 21:27:39 well, I just built e-image for me and it worked.... Mar 10 21:28:02 zecke: you hit the rdepends bug Mar 10 21:28:26 heh Mar 10 21:28:29 zecke: bitbake suddenly decided to build dbus $ancient-version after building 0.61 Mar 10 21:28:32 is *that* what it was? Mar 10 21:28:40 same thing happend here Mar 10 21:28:47 updated bitbake should fix it? Mar 10 21:28:56 My bitbake it pretty new.... Mar 10 21:29:01 I have all dbus/gconf/gnomevfs rm'ed and monotone drop --missing'ed Mar 10 21:29:11 .... Mar 10 21:29:20 (insert 'duplicates' in above sentence) Mar 10 21:29:25 ah Mar 10 21:30:09 well...strange that it doesn't happen for me.... Mar 10 21:30:20 koen: hmm we have not touched the prefered provider selection in bitbake for a while?! Mar 10 21:30:43 zecke: no idea Mar 10 21:31:05 but bitbake r384 (and onwards) = unpredictable Mar 10 21:32:06 before i get any farther, HOST_NONSYSV is the correct place to address this flag is it not? Mar 10 21:32:48 yay.... Mar 10 21:33:13 koen: what does bitbake -s say? Mar 10 21:33:38 koen: we might have a bad RDEPENDS for dbus somewhere? Mar 10 21:33:47 no idea Mar 10 21:33:49 except it works for me.... Mar 10 21:33:56 why would it work for me and not you guys? Mar 10 21:34:01 all versions I don't use have gone to bit heaven Mar 10 21:34:28 JustinP, do you have a stable branch as well? Mar 10 21:34:38 yes Mar 10 21:34:49 I also built this from a clean tmp Mar 10 21:34:52 zecke mantioned his was against dev Mar 10 21:35:00 mentioned* Mar 10 21:35:04 perhaps you should clean your tmp and try again...or clean the cache at least Mar 10 21:35:13 emte: I built my e-image against dev Mar 10 21:35:27 ah Mar 10 21:35:27 emte: I *also* have stable, but they are different build dirs Mar 10 21:35:45 how can i make a script run at opie startup? Mar 10 21:37:17 what is the latest version of GCC that works w/ ARM in OE? Mar 10 21:38:07 cbrake: 4.0.2 Mar 10 21:38:19 cbrake: 4.1.0 requires some manual modification Mar 10 21:38:38 koen: thanks Mar 10 21:38:54 dan2003: inherit update-rc.d Mar 10 21:39:48 dan2003: and check opie-taskbar on how it is done with the opie start script Mar 10 21:40:00 k Mar 10 21:41:08 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * r8c820636... 10/packages/subversion/subversion_1.2.0.bb: subversion-1.2.0: add HOMEPAGE, correct LICENSE Mar 10 21:50:01 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * rb7bb207c... 10/packages/apr/ (apr-util_1.1.2.bb apr_1.1.1.bb): apr-1.1.1,apr-util-1.1.2: add HOMEPAGE, correct LICENSE Mar 10 21:55:50 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * rdf4677c1... 10/packages/avetanabt/ (files/maxConnectedDevices.patch avetanabt_cvs.bb): avetanabt-cvs: remove unappliable patch Mar 10 22:06:00 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * rf13c0ad8... 10/packages/davfs2/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Mar 10 22:06:02 davfs2-0.2.7: mounts WebDAV resources Mar 10 22:06:04 - needs coda kernel module Mar 10 22:06:06 - recommends neon with SSL support (e.g. to use the free 1GB webspace from GMX) Mar 10 22:14:34 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * r89b41334... 10/packages/neon/neon_0.24.7.bb: Mar 10 22:14:36 neon-0.24.7: add SSL support Mar 10 22:14:38 - add openssl and time to DEPENDS Mar 10 22:14:40 - add lib_package to inherit Mar 10 22:14:42 - copy neon-config to staging dir (used by davfs2) Mar 10 22:21:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r03b24ac5... 10/packages/zaurus-updater/zaurus-updater.bb: zaurus-updater: use ${DEPLOY_DIR_IMAGE} Mar 10 22:24:48 argh. when will people finally grok that linking against openssl renders gpl apps non-distributable? Mar 10 22:26:21 probably when hell freezes over Mar 10 22:26:29 (the neon thing?) Mar 10 22:26:37 yeah Mar 10 22:27:17 wanna write a bbclass for that? (if openssl in rdepends && license = .gpl)? Mar 10 22:27:37 well. it's not that simple Mar 10 22:28:17 i.e. davfs links against neon which links against openssl Mar 10 22:28:38 it's the combination that causes trouble Mar 10 22:30:04 isn't neon gpl as well? Mar 10 22:30:30 ah wait, it's lgpl Mar 10 22:30:33 no. why would that matter? Mar 10 22:31:15 if neon were gpl, you couldn't link that against openssl, right? Mar 10 22:32:18 you can link against it, but you'll have a hard time explaining to your lawyers why you'd be allowed to distribute the resulting package >:) Mar 10 22:33:03 03yuecelm 07org.oe.dev * r930d705b... 10/conf/distro/slugos-packages.conf: conf/distro/slugos-packages.bb: add davfs2 and neon Mar 10 22:33:36 a simple bbclass would be a start Mar 10 22:33:44 I bet you could talk zecke into writing one Mar 10 22:34:09 well. it wouldn't solve the problem Mar 10 22:34:50 people should just stop linking against openssl. I want to build/distribute gpl apps linking against neon after all Mar 10 22:35:34 (neon being an example only) Mar 10 22:36:57 true Mar 10 22:37:24 but I bet there are enough distros shipping tainted stuff because OE doesn't warn them Mar 10 22:37:35 and they don't check all their packages Mar 10 22:39:12 anyway Mar 10 22:39:21 'night all Mar 10 22:39:27 'night koen|sleep Mar 10 22:54:35 what controls the version of a package that gets built? the packages/uclibc/ directory has several versions, and builds uclibc-0.28 by default. How do I make it build uclibc-cvs, for example? Mar 10 22:58:46 ah, nevermind -- just saw the "version preference" section in the bitbake manual Mar 10 23:49:52 * france is back (gone 08:05:22) Mar 11 00:48:19 <[g2]> is file-native-4.16-r1 broken ? Mar 11 00:48:58 sort of Mar 11 00:49:17 try wiping out file and any magic files from staging Mar 11 00:49:18 reenoo, cant you take djb's approach? Mar 11 00:49:31 emte: huh? Mar 11 00:49:37 wrap another ssl library to "pretend" to be openssl Mar 11 00:50:22 gnutls is supposed to do that but it's not complete yet Mar 11 00:50:33 (the djb ref is in regards to snedmail-qmail) Mar 11 00:50:41 sendmail* Mar 11 00:51:32 ah, is that what gnutls is for ... i thought it was to replace nssl Mar 11 00:52:03 atleast thats the only places i've saw it anyway Mar 11 00:53:42 hmm Mar 11 00:53:50 * emte wonders what glue bitbake is on ... Mar 11 00:54:00 oh wait ... Mar 11 00:54:40 hrmm Mar 11 00:55:32 when did i comment out my tmp path ... Mar 11 00:56:36 this box isn't usable with glibc packaging running Mar 11 01:53:37 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r1c34e9b7... 10/packages/xkbd/xkbd_0.8.15.bb: xkbd: fix circum key mapping. fixes (reopened) hh.org Bug #1512. from .dev 8bcba3a999604c40b28e2542f3c3098dcace7015. Mar 11 02:02:51 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7efa678f... 10/packages/xkbd/xkbd-0.8.15/fix-circumkey.patch: xkbd: add missing patch. from .dev 8bcba3a999604c40b28e2542f3c3098dcace7015. Mar 11 02:07:37 ecc, still around? Mar 11 02:40:59 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r023c0921... 10/packages/dreambox/dreambox-secondstage.bb: dreambox-secondstage/dm7025: upgrade to version 44 Mar 11 02:41:05 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r9ce311d2... 10/packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb: enigma2: update to cvsdate 20060312 Mar 11 02:41:10 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rabe94c75... 10/packages/tuxbox/ (5 files in 2 dirs): tuxbox-tuxtxt-32bpp: add dm7025 version of standalone tuxbox Mar 11 02:41:15 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r9ba7012f... 10/packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb: dreambox-dvb-modules/dm7025: upgrade to version 20060311 Mar 11 02:41:21 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * re1ac9d7b... 10/packages/meta/dreambox-image.bb: dreambox-image: add tuxtxt for dm7025, add plugins for enigma2: oldsoftwareupdate, positionersetup, cutlisteditor Mar 11 02:53:45 HopsNBarley|zzz: guess I missed you ... Mar 11 03:15:30 hrm ... Mar 11 03:15:47 okay the flag works but not the test code IN the bb ... Mar 11 03:16:14 NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0464/3113) [14 %]ERROR: /backupfiles/biohazard/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/fakeroot/fakeroot-native_1.2.13.bb:12: unparsed line: 'if ${HOST_NONSYSV} == 1:' while parsing /backupfiles/biohazard/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/fakeroot/fakeroot-native_1.2.13.bb Mar 11 03:16:22 ideas? Mar 11 04:04:51 good morning .. :) Mar 11 04:22:57 moo Mar 11 05:06:05 okay lets try this again ... Mar 11 05:06:11 actually Mar 11 05:06:21 kergoth, you happen to be awake? Mar 11 05:06:38 emte, hmm ? Mar 11 05:07:00 trying to insert some test code in a bb file Mar 11 05:07:03 anyone have a nokia 770? Mar 11 05:07:35 i wish i did Mar 11 05:08:14 i'm trying to find out about obtaining root Mar 11 05:08:27 ? Mar 11 05:08:28 i read that it might brick your 770 Mar 11 05:08:35 ... Mar 11 05:08:35 so i am hesitant to attempt Mar 11 05:08:54 the oe image will brik your device if your root ... Mar 11 05:08:58 http://maemo.org/maemowiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot?highlight=%28root%29 Mar 11 05:09:54 but i have to do it so i can run kismet and nmap and other fun tools Mar 11 05:10:20 i am new to linux though and it looks a bit overwhelming Mar 11 05:16:04 use sudo Mar 11 05:16:13 or patch the tools to ignore root Mar 11 05:16:42 i am new to linux what is sudo? and how would i patch the tools to ignore root? Mar 11 05:17:56 sudo allows you to exicute commands as root while bing a user Mar 11 05:19:22 can i download sudo.deb? Mar 11 05:19:34 i cant install .gz files Mar 11 05:19:46 i don't have tar or gzip Mar 11 05:21:02 * emte has no idea what exists for n777 Mar 11 05:21:39 champ: follow the directions on that page you posted, and learn about linux. Mar 11 05:22:23 * emte is glad Zero_Chaos said that, i wouldnt have been as nice :) Mar 11 05:22:37 agreed, you might want to play around with Linux on a PC where you're less likely to do permanent damage Mar 11 05:23:05 well the 770 was free so..might as well Mar 11 05:23:07 ;] Mar 11 05:23:28 champ: can I get one for free? Mar 11 05:24:09 I don't know ask Nokia Mar 11 05:24:29 champ: how did you get one for free? Mar 11 05:25:31 grr Mar 11 05:25:37 where is the magic ... Mar 11 05:28:44 aha Mar 11 05:28:49 ... i think Mar 11 05:31:29 nope ... Mar 11 05:31:45 I have a contact at Nokia Mar 11 05:32:15 they are shipping me their $150 wireless foldable bluetooth keyboard on monday Mar 11 05:32:17 ;] Mar 11 05:32:55 so why dont you provide a n770 for all the devs? Mar 11 05:33:21 because i am not god Mar 11 05:34:23 well this looks better Mar 11 05:34:28 ERROR: invalid syntax (fakeroot-native_1.2.13.bb:__anonfunc, line 2) Mar 11 05:47:35 is anyone awake ? Mar 11 05:47:47 I am, but I can't help you Mar 11 05:47:56 lol Mar 11 05:48:04 yeah i cant help myself either Mar 11 05:48:13 # Compatability for the rare systems not using or having SYSV Mar 11 05:48:13 python () { Mar 11 05:48:13 if bb.data.getVar('HOST_NONSYSV', d, 1) == 1: Mar 11 05:48:13 bb.data.setVar('EXTRA_OECONF', ' --with-ipc=tcp --program-prefix= ', d) Mar 11 05:48:13 } Mar 11 05:48:18 trying to get that to work Mar 11 05:48:39 yeah, I can't help :-) Mar 11 05:48:59 hmm Mar 11 05:49:07 i should probably append ... Mar 11 06:03:41 hmm no clear example if i can or not ... Mar 11 06:04:19 maybe someone will wake up soon who can help Mar 11 06:04:59 it really would be nice if everyone lived in one time zone :) Mar 11 06:05:15 * emte moves to europe Mar 11 06:05:26 johnx: why is that? Mar 11 06:06:10 champ: so that some of us wouldn't have to stay up until all hours of the morning to talk to the rest Mar 11 06:12:31 oh, that makes sense Mar 11 06:35:41 has anyone found a good RSS reader to use in GPE? Mar 11 06:38:06 not sure but i expect yarssr would compile Mar 11 06:40:13 that looks interesting Mar 11 06:40:44 i use it to monitor e17 and OE Mar 11 06:41:12 I'm trying to get liferea to compile right now, since I'm partial to an interface that shows the headline and summary in a nice windowed form Mar 11 06:41:27 I might try yarssr after that Mar 11 06:41:53 never hurts to see what will work Mar 11 06:41:55 i think i have yarssr because it was gtk :) Mar 11 06:42:39 liferea is GTK as well and can use gtkhtml instead of gecko Mar 11 06:43:07 yarssr may be much lighter :) Mar 11 06:43:55 4.0K /usr/bin/yarssr Mar 11 06:43:58 lol Mar 11 06:44:01 wow! Mar 11 06:44:05 that's incredible :P Mar 11 08:50:44 Morning all Mar 11 08:51:16 mornin' Mar 11 08:52:18 Hav problems to get file-native build (zaurus). Th 4.13 version worked. but 4.16 comlains not to find any magic file. Any ideas ? Mar 11 08:54:04 i had the same problem and I cheated my way out of it by using the version of file that my distro provided to do the command that it fails on Mar 11 08:54:14 I have no idea what effect this will have in the long term Mar 11 08:54:49 I heard someone else "fixed" it by erasing their tmp and rebuilding everything Mar 11 08:56:16 johnX: This is the MS method ;-) Mar 11 08:56:53 heh Mar 11 09:40:58 * france is away: Away Mar 11 10:03:08 morning Mar 11 10:06:45 hey Mar 11 10:12:59 hey zecke Mar 11 10:55:05 * koen tries to build a gcc 4.1 toolchain **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 11 10:59:56 2006