**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 14 10:59:57 2006 Mar 14 11:00:41 thx, zecke Mar 14 11:01:07 oh, another thing: i've tried to build linux-uml Mar 14 11:01:12 but it seems old Mar 14 11:01:18 and didn't even compile Mar 14 11:01:54 someone got success with it ? Mar 14 11:02:06 QA, a pain in my heart :} Mar 14 11:03:09 QA ? quality assurance ? :) Mar 14 11:07:57 victorz: yes :( Mar 14 11:08:21 hi all Mar 14 11:08:27 pH5: yes Mar 14 11:08:33 pH5: ecore-x is failing to link Mar 14 11:09:19 pH5: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=4&logfile=20060314001553.log Mar 14 11:09:49 pH5: and we have still an issue with Xcomposite.h Mar 14 11:09:51 zecke: slugos-btu Mar 14 11:10:10 koen: btu for uclibc? Mar 14 11:10:28 Big endian Thumb Uclibc Mar 14 11:10:50 the 'regular' openslug is slugos-bag Mar 14 11:11:01 Bigendian Arm Glibc Mar 14 11:11:16 opendebianslug is LAG Mar 14 11:11:19 koen: and you are a MOTU? Mar 14 11:11:41 zecke: No, He-man is :) Mar 14 11:12:13 koen: hehe, He-Man: Al was allowed to toy with that in her youth, I was forbidden :} Mar 14 11:12:36 * pH5 unpacks old diet-x11 to see what was done with Xutf8TextPropertyToTextList Mar 14 11:13:11 zecke: we probably will have some issues with moved headers in xorg7 Mar 14 11:13:16 koen: my glibc 2.4 eabi build failed because glibc_2.4.bb installs linux-libc-headers-2.6.12. cand I find newer headers somewhere or will I have to use the kernel ones? Mar 14 11:13:46 pH5: either patch llh or use the kernel ones Mar 14 11:14:13 hrw|work: yes, at least include order should be reviewed Mar 14 11:14:18 koen: brrh, patching llh I just tried. not much fun. Mar 14 11:14:44 pH5: or get debian ones Mar 14 11:15:04 pH5: heh, now you know why I patched the kernel :) Mar 14 11:15:19 hm.. debian has 2.6.13 Mar 14 11:15:57 pH5: right now I'm documention the issues in bugzilla with a old abi build Mar 14 11:16:21 pH5: when that works I'll try with eabi Mar 14 11:16:25 cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: M -!- Client or Server timeout occurred! Mar 14 11:16:28 any ideas? Mar 14 11:16:36 zecke: try again Mar 14 11:16:47 ~kill sf.net cvs lags Mar 14 11:16:49 zecke: sf.net sucks Mar 14 11:16:49 zecke: that's sourceforge, what do you expect? Mar 14 11:16:49 * ibot shoots a pseudomeson gun at sf.net cvs lags Mar 14 11:17:17 pH5: well, I think this time it is vexed specific Mar 14 11:17:19 pH5: #debian-arm is a hideout for people trying to get EABI to work Mar 14 11:18:35 zecke: vexed-levels? Mar 14 11:19:02 yes Mar 14 11:22:03 I will archive it and switch SRC_URI Mar 14 11:22:18 thanks Mar 14 11:24:12 zecke: I'm not sure what to do about the ecore thing. The Xutf8 functions were moved into xlibi18n (which is disabled in the diet-x11 build via --disable-xlocale). Mar 14 11:24:37 NOTE: package glibc-intermediate-2.4-r0: task do_populate_staging: started Mar 14 11:24:39 yay! Mar 14 11:25:14 * france is back (gone 23:34:34) Mar 14 11:25:41 koen: ah, the envy ;) Mar 14 11:27:04 ~hail x11 forwarding Mar 14 11:27:06 * ibot bows down to x11 forwarding and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Mar 14 11:27:08 ~lart monotone Mar 14 11:27:08 * ibot takes a big bite out of monotone's jugular vein Mar 14 11:27:10 pH5: hmm, then we need to fix the depends of ecore-x? Mar 14 11:28:31 zecke: either that or check if it is possible to hack ecore-x11 not to use those functions. I'm not sure how critical the space savings obtained from diet-x11 are. Mar 14 11:30:20 pH5: iirc 1-2MB Mar 14 11:35:51 zecke: fixed, pushed Mar 14 11:35:54 if I remeber e-image is too big for flash devices anyway, maybe it can just require full libX11 Mar 14 11:36:58 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * raa213887... 10/packages/dropbear/ (21 files in 5 dirs): dropbear: update to 0.48.1 and sync with .dev Mar 14 11:36:59 After quick look, it seems only ecore_x_icccm.c needs those functions, and they could be disabled by undefining X_HAVE_UTF8_STRING. Mar 14 11:37:03 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r7c444808... 10/packages/qpe-vexed/qpe-vexed-levels_2.1Beta1.bb: qpe-vexed-levels: do not fetch from CVS but use archive of levels Mar 14 11:45:56 morning all Mar 14 11:46:18 hi Dirk Mar 14 11:46:43 hey Marcin Mar 14 11:46:48 I'm going to hate bitbake in recent version... Mar 14 11:47:15 hrw|work: what is the issue? Mar 14 11:47:18 I want to build gpe-image/c7x0/.dev and it already take 3rd day and each day it rebuild all Mar 14 11:47:41 hrw|work: well GPE/X is currently deeply broken Mar 14 11:47:51 few hours ago I built gaim - now it is rebuilding but PV is same Mar 14 11:47:59 good morning folks Mar 14 11:48:02 hi Crofton Mar 14 11:48:07 hrw|work: do you have a stamp for that? Mar 14 11:48:07 chris144: hi Mar 14 11:48:13 zecke: yep Mar 14 11:48:16 hi hrw|work Mar 14 11:48:19 zecke: atleast I expect to haveit Mar 14 11:48:19 hrw|work: PR is the same as well Mar 14 11:49:07 hm.. or other thing it is... Mar 14 11:49:25 does 'rebuild gpe-image' clean all stamps or just gpe-image ones? Mar 14 11:50:56 argh.. fscking gpe stuff libtool errors..... Mar 14 11:51:09 ~libtoolized to tmp/work shits Mar 14 11:51:38 hi chris144 Mar 14 11:51:39 hrw|work: I think rebuild cleans also the stamps of direct dependencies. Mar 14 11:51:39 koen: after replacing llh with vanilla 2.6.15 headers, I get this: http://pastebin.ca/45655 Mar 14 11:51:39 hrw|work: one simple sed fixes them all Mar 14 11:52:06 folks, I am just building am image based on task-bootstrap, task-bootstrap includes HOTPLUG ?= "linux-hotplug" Mar 14 11:52:08 hi pH5 Mar 14 11:52:26 s/${WORKPATH}/${STAGING_LIB_DIR}/g Mar 14 11:52:40 however I do not want linux-hotplug in my image. How do I get it out? Mar 14 11:53:19 XorA: then why noone did it? Mar 14 11:53:28 I already tried all kinds of HOTPLUG="" etc but it stays in the image. Mar 14 11:53:48 hrw|work: that was my hack, but I know nothing of libtool, I grabbed it from an old email on oe@ if I remeber right Mar 14 11:53:59 hrw|work: probably needs to do that in oe_libinstall Mar 14 11:54:11 pH5: probably because 2.6.15 lacks tls and/or eabi Mar 14 11:54:16 hrw|work: and that code scares me Mar 14 11:54:27 XorA: we need such hacks finally resolved Mar 14 11:54:33 hrw|work: where the stamps removed? Mar 14 11:54:50 hrw|work: I have this in my local tree: http://en.pastebin.ca/45656. If somebody tests it, I could submit Mar 14 11:55:09 zecke: I just noticed... bbshell rebuild == clean ALL dependencies and rebuild Mar 14 11:55:18 ~lart bbshell Mar 14 11:55:19 * ibot puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at bbshell Mar 14 11:55:45 hrw|work: not only in bbshell Mar 14 11:55:49 oh well this could be a RDEPENDS issue Mar 14 11:56:10 bitbake r329 was nice... chlip Mar 14 11:57:50 argh^3 - gnumeric and kspread + ODC == more problems then it is worth Mar 14 11:58:02 aaargh Mar 14 11:58:04 /build/tmp/angstrom/work/ep9312-linux/gcc-cross-4.1.0-r1/gcc-4.1.0/gcc/../libcpp/include -I/data/build/oe/build/tmp/angstrom/staging/i686-linux/include cc1-checksum.c -o cc1-checksum.o| /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmpfr| collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Mar 14 11:58:07 hm, __ARM_NR_set_tls is defined in asm-arm/unistd.h Mar 14 11:59:28 pH5: that patch looks like what I was doing manually Mar 14 12:00:15 * chris144 rebuilds his image with HOTPLUG= in his machine file Mar 14 12:00:46 "" Mar 14 12:02:13 koen: what is the best way to tell glibc to use the kernel header's unistd.h instead of the ones in posix/ or include/ from the build tree? Mar 14 12:04:24 pH5: no idea, we'd have to wait for pb__ to get back from his meeting of doom Mar 14 12:06:54 koen: its about time you cloned pb__ and installed the monotone capability :-) Mar 14 12:09:28 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rf7770d0c... 10/packages/sylpheed/sylpheed_2.2.3.bb: sylpheed_2.2.3.bb : new version Mar 14 12:12:19 XorA: argh.. just built 2.2.2 Mar 14 12:12:22 ;D Mar 14 12:16:17 hrw|work: heh heh, very little changed Mar 14 12:24:47 hi, folks, I build bootstrap-image failed while building qemu .. Mar 14 12:25:01 NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0-r19: task do_build: completed Mar 14 12:25:03 finally Mar 14 12:26:11 ok I solved my linux-hotplug problem. very simple: HOTPLUG = "" in the machine file. -c clean doesn't delete the ipk file, that one got me cold... Mar 14 12:26:39 here is the log: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Ej1tmi81.html Mar 14 12:29:42 ibot: botmail for leoncamel: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738 Mar 14 12:30:00 * france is away: Away Mar 14 12:39:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r29372ce6... 10/conf/documentation.conf: documentation.conf: document ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION Mar 14 12:49:06 how may I update the Packages files in the ipk folder? Mar 14 12:49:20 is there a bitbake target? Mar 14 12:49:30 package-index Mar 14 12:51:21 it says ERROR: Nothing provides package-index Mar 14 12:52:22 sws: then rebuild bootstrap-image Mar 14 12:53:03 morning Mar 14 12:54:27 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.1.0: completed Mar 14 12:54:54 nice Mar 14 12:56:40 hrw: worked, thanks Mar 14 12:57:08 ~lart x11 for fscked cursors on window borders Mar 14 12:57:09 * ibot drops a humongous exploding nuke on x11 for fscked cursors on window borders Mar 14 12:59:05 NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r0: task do_compile: started Mar 14 13:05:09 re Mar 14 13:06:07 qm zecke Mar 14 13:06:24 hey zecke Mar 14 13:27:36 NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r0: task do_compile: completed Mar 14 13:27:46 nice Mar 14 13:37:20 hi, folks. I bitbake bootstrap-image failed while builing qemu. Mar 14 13:37:22 any idea ? Mar 14 13:37:46 you have gcc4 on host Mar 14 13:37:46 leoncamel: check your botmail Mar 14 13:38:31 koen, what is botmail ? Mar 14 13:42:25 someone know how to force linux to find FDC when floppy is disabled in bios? Mar 14 13:44:41 leoncamel: check the window on which 'ibot' is talking to you Mar 14 13:46:03 hrw|work: you have a floppy drive? Mar 14 13:46:30 yes Mar 14 13:46:43 disabled in bios but now Ania needs to use it Mar 14 13:47:09 XorA: at Ania's work most machines are pII or older Mar 14 13:48:00 hrw|work: thats a trick Ive never done Mar 14 13:48:15 ? Mar 14 13:48:28 hrw|work: re-enabling the floppy, never tried that Mar 14 14:12:09 hi, koen. how can I read message from ibot ? the ibot says : You have 1 messages awaiting, from: koen (botmail read).. Mar 14 14:12:47 type 'botmail read' in that window Mar 14 14:12:53 <_law_> leoncamel, ibotmail read Mar 14 14:12:57 <_law_> leoncamel, botmail read Mar 14 14:15:09 :(. but I got nothing message .. Mar 14 14:21:18 afternoon Mar 14 14:22:39 hi Rene Mar 14 14:22:51 hey Marcin Mar 14 14:24:32 hey reenoo Mar 14 14:24:38 reenoo: better stay away?! Mar 14 14:24:56 yo zecke Mar 14 14:24:59 hmm? Mar 14 14:25:10 referring to the fun you've had with jnc? Mar 14 14:25:35 reenoo: no, measuring your time constraint := Mar 14 14:25:50 heh. yah. Mar 14 14:25:57 currently eating Mar 14 14:26:00 ... Mar 14 14:27:46 :( gnupg and oesources dont like me :( Mar 14 14:28:36 emte: in which way? Mar 14 14:28:54 hmm ... i thought i had libgcrypt in my cache ... Mar 14 14:29:02 emte: I'm fetching gnupg 1.4.0 now Mar 14 14:29:15 got 401 and 404 Mar 14 14:29:44 trying again right now Mar 14 14:30:02 but atleast i can build i suppose ... Mar 14 14:30:43 reenoo: I have made my experience with such folk, I try to stop it ASAP Mar 14 14:31:10 aha, gnupg.org loves me again :) Mar 14 14:31:29 Failed to fetch HEAD from http://www.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mchehab/v4l-dvb.git <- wonderful git Mar 14 14:31:53 zecke: sooner or later we could end with hooks which limit push access for dirs Mar 14 14:32:47 hi, koen. I still can't read the message .. :( Could you send it to me again ? Mar 14 14:33:09 reenoo: what exams are you facing? Mar 14 14:33:19 14 13:34 < koen> ibot: botmail for leoncamel: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=738 Mar 14 14:33:32 leoncamel: this one? Mar 14 14:33:35 reenoo: I might play 'roadie' for the FU Fighters this year, so we might see us in Bremen Mar 14 14:34:10 zecke: computer networks, computer vision, and robotics Mar 14 14:34:23 emte: NOTE: package gnupg-1.4.0-r0: task do_build: completed Mar 14 14:34:37 hrw|work, yeah, mine worked now Mar 14 14:34:47 zecke: ah, excellent. looking forward to meeting you there! Mar 14 14:34:50 i guess the servers were down earlier for some reason Mar 14 14:35:22 or they were overloaded Mar 14 14:35:33 reenoo: 50:50 chanche Mar 14 14:36:21 zecke: ah Mar 14 14:36:36 zecke: happen to know if any of you will go to eindhoven? Mar 14 14:36:58 (roboludens/dutch open) Mar 14 14:37:02 well i am off to class, hopefully my gpe image is done by the time i get home so i can start adding the e libraries :) Mar 14 14:37:43 reenoo: I have not read anything on the Mailinglist Mar 14 14:37:45 hmm firealarm Mar 14 14:37:57 Probably nothing =) Mar 14 14:38:15 Cockroach-: well just noise Mar 14 14:40:09 in case of firealarm, do 'dmesg'. If nothing suspicious can be seen, resume work Mar 14 14:41:38 emte: at least familiar 0.8.3 will be built with OE btw. chances are there will be maintenance releases for the 0.8.x series. for 0.9 nothing is decided yet. so please calm down a bit while the evaluation of various options including but not limited to OE is going on. Mar 14 14:42:23 later all Mar 14 14:50:08 wow, my toolchain actually works Mar 14 14:50:21 nice Mar 14 14:51:00 so how much left for eabi? Mar 14 14:52:41 hrw|work: someone has to make glibc2.4 compile against linux kernel headers with eabi support Mar 14 14:53:58 gcc-4.1.0/gcc/Makefile.* needs -L${path to staging native libdir} in the line with -lmpfr Mar 14 14:54:09 glibc needs to copy 2 headers Mar 14 14:54:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7c38e4df... 10/packages/gcc/gcc_4.1.0.bb: gcc 4.1.0: turn off building of libssp Mar 14 14:58:26 once those 2 fixes our in people can start looking at eabi Mar 14 15:10:35 koen: looking good Mar 14 15:11:16 it compliles glib, but not busybox Mar 14 15:11:32 koen: slightly backwards :-) Mar 14 15:15:42 genesis:re Mar 14 15:19:15 speakina bout busybox... 1.1.0 was released and has some nice stuff Mar 14 15:21:32 http://pastebin.ca/45676: is this just a nice way of saying __be16 is undefined here? Mar 14 15:21:38 s/ice/nice/ Mar 14 15:27:59 httpd? Mar 14 15:28:01 seriously? Mar 14 15:30:47 CosmicPenguin: busybox has had httpd for a while, since around 1.0.0 iirc Mar 14 15:30:55 hmm Mar 14 15:30:58 what do you know about that Mar 14 15:40:50 very little, actually Mar 14 15:41:02 heh Mar 14 15:42:05 "mdev is a mini-udev implementation" - busybox 1.1.0 Mar 14 15:42:10 interesting.. Mar 14 15:57:08 hi, koen . you should have a look at this : http://rafb.net/paste/results/Htkljh88.html Mar 14 15:58:27 for some strange reason it suddenly started working when I put the -mfloat-abi at the end Mar 14 15:59:23 koen, hmm ? -mfloat-abi works ? Mar 14 16:00:03 busybox 1.1.0 need updating patches Mar 14 16:07:54 koen, still can't work here . Mar 14 16:09:12 koen: i didn't want to randomly close bugs that you had a say in Mar 14 16:09:27 not trying to suck up your free time, sorry ;/ Mar 14 16:10:20 koen: the libfloat patch might not be necessary if we only use the EABI float stuff, for gcc 4.1.0 Mar 14 16:15:27 hmm, if we want use EABI, the codesourcery gcc is the best choice, I think Mar 14 16:17:15 leoncamel: in past we had problems with gcc-csl 3.4.4 Mar 14 16:18:05 ~hail quilt Mar 14 16:18:07 * ibot bows down to quilt and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Mar 14 16:18:35 Ibot, you should do that every hour on the hour Mar 14 16:19:58 good thinking. compared to the other things ibot does, that wouldn't be at all annoying. Mar 14 16:22:46 NOTE: package busybox-1.1.0-r0: task do_patch: completed Mar 14 16:23:59 hrw|work, hmm, what problems about gcc-csl 3.4.4 ? Mar 14 16:24:19 two patches need review - readlink.patch looks like already done in other way, mount-all-type need to be checked Mar 14 16:24:32 leoncamel: for example abiword does not work Mar 14 16:24:49 leoncamel: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204 Mar 14 16:25:02 abiword: will not compile at all with csl compiler, compiles fine with gcc 3.4.4 Mar 14 16:25:02 gpe-mini-browser: will not display gifs with csl compiler, works with gcc 3.4.4 Mar 14 16:25:03 gnumeric: will not insert charts with csl compiler, works with gcc 3.4.4 Mar 14 16:25:24 NOTE: package busybox-1.1.0-r0: task do_compile: completed Mar 14 16:26:01 fails on do_package Mar 14 16:29:29 will be interesting to see how those programs interact with the gcc4.1/glibc2.4 combo Mar 14 16:30:29 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745 Mar 14 16:30:44 jnc: go for it then Mar 14 16:30:47 :) Mar 14 16:31:03 i will tonight. actually should be heading off to work now Mar 14 16:31:13 * jnc notes the bug # Mar 14 16:33:19 koen: NOTE: package glibc-intermediate-2.4-r0: task do_build: completed Mar 14 16:34:20 Cockroach-: was your glibc-intermediate issue fixed? Mar 14 16:39:26 pH5: cool Mar 14 16:40:35 leoncamel: most of the csl patches are in gcc 4.1.0 and glibc 2.4 now Mar 14 16:41:08 koen: It worked without changing anything in glibc itself, just compiled against my hacked-together kernel headers (llh + linux patches up to 2.6.16-rc6 applied ignoring rejects + some fixups) Mar 14 16:41:41 pH5: you didn't need to cp those 2 headers in the bug report? Mar 14 16:42:08 koen: for glibc-intermediate, no. Mar 14 16:42:24 strange Mar 14 16:42:45 pH5: on to gcc-cross! Mar 14 16:43:41 hmmm.... linux-libc-headers is dead Mar 14 16:45:11 oh, really? Mar 14 16:45:58 The guy running it posted, a "so long and farewell" on the lKML Mar 14 16:46:46 those crazy kernel guys got too much for him in the end? Mar 14 16:46:54 understandable Mar 14 16:49:38 OZ 3.5.4 images built ;) Mar 14 16:51:40 cu Mar 14 17:07:19 koen: gcc-cross 4.1.0 fails, I have the "can't find -lmpfr" issue. Mar 14 17:14:38 pH5: add the path to libmpfr.a to the line containing -lmpfr, like -L/stuff/staging/i686-linux/lib/ Mar 14 17:15:03 add it to the Makefile that is Mar 14 17:34:18 koen: thanks. should a --with-gmp parameter be added to the gcc-cross EXTRA_OECONF? Mar 14 17:35:29 pH5: or a sed -i s:-lmpfr:=lmpfr\ ${STAGING_WHATSITCALLEDAGAIN_DIR}: Makefile Mar 14 17:39:24 heh. I think there is no shortcut to ${STAGING_DIR}/${BUILD_SYS}/lib. Maybe ${BUILD_LDFLAGS} should be used somehow. Mar 14 17:39:59 argh Mar 14 17:40:19 /home/ph5/src/oe/build/angstrom/work/armv5te-linux/gcc-cross-4.1.0-r1/gcc-4.1.0/libgfortran/generated/_mod_i8.F90:42: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Mar 14 17:40:40 heh Mar 14 17:40:49 the ICEing on the cake Mar 14 17:41:08 * CosmicPenguin groans Mar 14 17:55:27 koen: you don't mind if I parahprase some of the bulletpoints on page 8 of your 2005 FOSDEM presentation do you? I really like how you described bitbake Mar 14 17:55:50 CosmicPenguin: you mean 2006, right? Mar 14 17:56:10 either way I don't mind :) Mar 14 17:56:31 The 2005 is a better "executive" overview, I think Mar 14 17:57:07 2005 is mickeyl's one Mar 14 17:57:59 Oh, shit Mar 14 17:58:00 sorry Mar 14 17:58:01 anyway Mar 14 17:58:14 somebody from the Patheon of OE giants Mar 14 17:58:33 Its hard for me to tell you guys apart from down here at the base of Mount Olympus Mar 14 17:59:08 heh Mar 14 18:11:11 heh Mar 14 18:11:16 CosmicPenguin: feel free Mar 14 18:11:35 CosmicPenguin: be sure to use the version from vanille.de/tools, it contains one or two more slides Mar 14 18:11:39 hi Mar 14 18:13:06 sheesh.... "antivir version 7 needs to reboot your system to make sure all the obsolete components from version 6 have been removed" Mar 14 18:13:08 *sigh* Mar 14 18:13:12 bbiab Mar 14 18:40:43 pH5: have you tried turning of fortran for the time being? Mar 14 18:54:50 koen: yes, but I'm bad at surgery. my turning off fortran caused errors while staging. Mar 14 18:54:56 koen: in the source tree I have here, glibc's do_munge() doesn't do anything except move ports into place. What were the other operations you were thinking of? Mar 14 18:55:39 pb_: copying bits out of ports into the tree, but I see that isn't really the case here Mar 14 18:55:42 pH5: oh dear, gcc 4.1.0 doesn't build for arm-linux? that's a bit sad. where's it crashing? Mar 14 18:59:02 pb_: It fails for armv5te-none-linux-gnueabi while building libgfortran. I hope that this is just due to my hacked kernel headers, though... Mar 14 18:59:24 can you run it under the debugger to see where the crash happens? Mar 14 19:01:45 * pb_ stabs alliance semiconductor Mar 14 19:01:54 seems this stupid RAM I need is discontinued. how annoying. Mar 14 19:06:50 oh, no, it's just that Farnell only carry an obsolete version of it Mar 14 19:06:53 * pb_ stabs farnell instead Mar 14 19:08:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd91187c9... 10/conf/distro/angstrom.conf: angstrom.conf: turn of locale generation via qemu because qemu doesn't like the gcc 4.1 + glibc 2.4 ARM binaries Mar 14 19:08:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r03a1c8ca... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom-2006.9: start using ARM EABI capable toolchain Mar 14 19:17:38 oh, that's rather sad. Mar 14 19:17:39 * pb_ stabs qemu Mar 14 19:17:53 seems that I'm making a lot of enemies this evening Mar 14 19:18:55 heh Mar 14 19:19:08 only if you don't stab hard enough Mar 14 19:27:39 pb_: I can't figure out how to debug gfortran. It catches the segfault itself. Mar 14 19:28:09 even under gdb? Mar 14 19:28:29 you might just be able to set a breakpoint on fancy_abort() or exit() or something. Mar 14 19:28:53 pb_: yes. gdb just tells me the exit code. this is the preprocessed file that it fails on: http://en.pastebin.ca/45713 Mar 14 19:39:44 re Mar 14 19:40:19 sometimes I feel that some people has really other sense of humour.. Mar 14 19:40:27 hey hrw Mar 14 19:46:15 koen: I managed to remove fortran and ignored some failed c++ precompiled headers. But now ipkg-build complains: "NOTE: Couldn't find shared library provider for libc.so.6" Mar 14 19:46:26 staging/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so.6 exists. Mar 14 19:46:55 pH5: at this point it would be safe to ignore Mar 14 19:47:09 we want to know wether it generates working binaries :) Mar 14 19:47:51 pH5: could you pastebin a objdump -p staging/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/lib/libc.so.6 ? Mar 14 19:47:57 and a objdump -x of the same file? Mar 14 19:48:58 -p: http://en.pastebin.ca/45719 Mar 14 19:49:48 -x: http://en.pastebin.ca/45721 Mar 14 19:50:12 is that using the objdump from cross/eabi-foo/bin ? Mar 14 19:50:17 ouch.. Mar 14 19:50:21 let me try that again Mar 14 19:51:02 -p http://en.pastebin.ca/45722 Mar 14 19:51:39 -x http://en.pastebin.ca/45723 Mar 14 19:51:47 re Mar 14 19:51:52 what a day :} Mar 14 19:51:52 hey zecke Mar 14 19:52:01 hail zecke Mar 14 19:52:02 Eclipse Broke, Two Phones broke, Serial Device broke :} Mar 14 19:52:07 private flags = 4000002: [Version4 EABI] [has entry point] Mar 14 19:52:08 yay Mar 14 19:52:19 congrats Mar 14 19:52:20 zecke: crumbs, sounds like you have the touch of death Mar 14 19:52:42 pH5: it seems like it is actually doing the right thing :) Mar 14 19:52:52 pb_: it started at 9:30 when eclipse decided to not build anything (in the Uni) Mar 14 19:53:16 ok. time to test OZ 3.5.4 Mar 14 19:53:25 pb_: the meanest breakage is the serial one, as I can't reflash/fix my phones :} Mar 14 19:53:41 that does sound sucky Mar 14 19:53:52 what's the problem with your serial device? Mar 14 19:54:37 pb_: my serial is Uni Directional. I can read redboot but can't type anything Mar 14 19:54:51 pb_: pretty tough to reflash the device under these circumstances :} Mar 14 19:55:08 frustrating Mar 14 19:55:18 my serial port does that sometimes as well. I never managed to work out why. Mar 14 19:55:59 * zecke whispers L*nux Mar 14 19:56:30 yeah, linux sucks Mar 14 19:56:40 it's very annoying Mar 14 19:57:06 I hate linux Mar 14 19:57:14 I hate it from time to time Mar 14 19:57:56 Currently I hate glibc/gcc even more, though. Mar 14 19:58:01 * pb_ hugs glibc Mar 14 19:58:27 zecke: but, one small victory, I managed to buy some batteries for my mouse Mar 14 19:58:38 * pb_ moves the pointer around the screen and smiles in a contented way Mar 14 19:59:49 pb_: get rechargables, unless you run out of fuel you can always recharge them Mar 14 20:00:22 I thought of that, but rechargeables need charging much more often than dry cells need replacing Mar 14 20:00:22 pb_: OT: you do not happen to like hrw's signature Mar 14 20:00:38 pb_: that is what Blair is claiming? Mar 14 20:00:47 what I really need is an inductive charger built into my mouse mat Mar 14 20:01:18 pb_: or get a touchscreen? Mar 14 20:01:18 zecke: that sig is quote from koen talk Mar 14 20:01:21 zecke: no, regrettably that's the science part. rechargeables have quite a high rate of self discharge under light loads. Mar 14 20:02:10 pb_: I try to remember the charging/discharging curves when last looking at batteries Mar 14 20:02:13 a pair of alkaline AAs generally lasts for several months in the mouse, whereas the rechargeable ones would probably be flat within a few weeks. Mar 14 20:02:14 hrw: I like it :) Mar 14 20:02:32 pb_: from my empiric research this is not true Mar 14 20:02:37 especially given that the rechargeable ones are 20% down in voltage to start with Mar 14 20:02:47 pb_: but we might have German Super Batteries Mar 14 20:03:06 zecke: probably, vorsprung durch technik and all that Mar 14 20:04:08 well, maybe I should try some rechargeable ones and see how I get on Mar 14 20:04:09 pb_: lol Mar 14 20:04:26 pb_: where did you get that quote from, and that fast Mar 14 20:04:30 pb_: and spelled right Mar 14 20:04:35 pb_: you are truely a bot Mar 14 20:04:46 the pee-bot Mar 14 20:05:07 zecke: Audi use it in all their UK advertising Mar 14 20:05:15 lol Mar 14 20:05:25 stupid Audio Mar 14 20:05:25 pb_: please... no Audi, VW after work... Mar 14 20:07:19 today I worked on 'my VW', 'my Audi' websites Mar 14 20:07:45 lets start a 'my OE' site Mar 14 20:08:35 ;)) Mar 14 20:09:13 booting 3.5.4/gpe on c7x0 Mar 14 20:14:26 hrw: poor guy :( Mar 14 20:14:54 pH5: I think the objdump is worth a mail containing eabi and a lot of exclamation marks ;) Mar 14 20:15:15 zecke: first gpe so I will end with opie :) Mar 14 20:15:41 now I see that gpe-image feed add-on should be removed Mar 14 20:24:58 zecke: regarding your earlier comment, yeah, I happen not to like hrw's signature very much. Mar 14 20:25:45 I guess he's welcome to think whatever he likes, but making disparaging remarks about the intellectual capacity of the "average oesf forum user" strikes me as just gratuitously offensive. Mar 14 20:32:27 hi woglinde Mar 14 20:32:39 he pb Mar 14 20:33:17 pb do you will attend the cebit again? Mar 14 20:36:47 no, not this year Mar 14 20:36:52 some of our sales guys are there, though Mar 14 20:37:20 I hope that they will make some contracts Mar 14 20:37:51 heh, me too Mar 14 20:41:24 heh.. looks like I need static signature for some MLs to not start discussions about signature quote Mar 14 20:41:42 heh Mar 14 20:43:34 pb_: what was that command for 'range' in shell again? Mar 14 20:43:42