**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 25 10:59:57 2006 Mar 25 11:03:39 Good morning all Mar 25 11:07:21 Anyone here who can help with i386 build problems ? glibc does not build due to pthread problems (_errno missing). Mar 25 11:08:13 I had those also, but how did I fix it... hmm :) Mar 25 11:08:39 Got to think that for a minute Mar 25 11:38:22 morning Mar 25 11:38:40 morning CoreDump|home Mar 25 11:38:40 evening Mar 25 11:39:07 wait. its almost 7am.. when the heck did that happen Mar 25 11:41:14 i don't understand how bitbake chooses which version to install. it picks qemu-cvs over qemu-0.8.0 but ipkg-0.99.159 over ipkg-cvs Mar 25 11:46:41 TMM1: Probably you have an PREFERRED_VERSION_ipkg set somewhere. Otherwise bitbake takes always the _cvs package if existing. Mar 25 11:51:48 <|kami|> hi i know this maybe could be the wrong place to ask this but i cant get any where else answer and i think you people now the best systems. But now to my problem. Mar 25 11:52:32 <|kami|> I am using a NSLU2 with Openslug and Postfix installed i can send emails but i cant connect to port 25 or better say i dont get an answer from postfix Mar 25 11:55:48 hey mickeyl Mar 25 11:55:52 hi koen Mar 25 11:56:26 |kami|: is postfix set up to listen to the ip you are connecting to? Mar 25 11:56:39 mickeyl: good morning Mar 25 11:56:58 good morning phil Mar 25 11:57:57 hey everyone Mar 25 11:58:01 |kami|: try #nslu2-linux Mar 25 11:58:13 Hi all Mar 25 11:58:28 i need faster internet :/ Mar 25 11:59:08 Have problems to build glibc for x86. "In function `__pthread_reset_main_thread':pthread.c:(.text+0x11bc): undefined reference to `_errno'", Any ideas ? Mar 25 11:59:18 mithro: at hoem? Mar 25 11:59:20 home, eve Mar 25 11:59:21 n Mar 25 12:02:13 uv1: I tried to send private message to you but it seems that you did not see it? Mar 25 12:02:42 Cockroach-: I saw it and answered, but you didn't see ? Mar 25 12:02:55 Oh, in that case I didn't see it Mar 25 12:03:01 receiving private messages only works for NickServ noticed people Mar 25 12:03:18 other way around: anybody can receive messages, but you need to be registered to send them Mar 25 12:03:36 Ok Mar 25 12:03:55 uv1: so what version were you building? Mar 25 12:04:07 2.3.5 last cvs snapshot. Mar 25 12:04:12 pb_: ah right Mar 25 12:04:29 <|kami|> yes it is Mar 25 12:05:51 a side question, can one override any variables on residing on .bb's using local.conf? Mar 25 12:06:05 almost Mar 25 12:06:12 those that aren't read afterwards Mar 25 12:06:16 have a look at bitbake -D -D Mar 25 12:06:22 and compare the order of inclusion Mar 25 12:06:48 uv1: I solved that glibc issue by harshly tuning the .bb file, changing: GLIBC_EXTRA_OECONF ?= "--with-tls --without-__thread" Mar 25 12:07:16 Cockroach-: What if you want thread ? Mar 25 12:07:21 I did try to add that to local conf, but that didn't work, but there is a possibility that I should have cleaned the cache in order to that work Mar 25 12:08:16 uv1: Well I only wanted glibc to compile so I could build meta-sdk, so that answer is just something I googled up and didn't really think what it causes Mar 25 12:09:09 Cockroach-: Oh, I want to use the resulting bootstrap-image (uml) to test unionfs stuff. So I need threading afterwards ;-( Mar 25 12:09:32 uv1: "--without-__thread" doesn't disable threading. Mar 25 12:09:45 pb_: So what does it ? Mar 25 12:09:55 it disables use of __thread, as the name suggests Mar 25 12:10:23 pb_: Ok, will try. Should'nt that be in the bb file then ? Mar 25 12:10:27 another side question, what does the '?=' do? "if variable empty, set value to..." ? Mar 25 12:10:37 uv1: no, because it oughtn't to be necessary Mar 25 12:10:37 Cockroach-: yes Mar 25 12:10:51 Cockroach-: not quite. it sets the value if it wasn't set already. Mar 25 12:10:52 Logical, as Spock would say Mar 25 12:11:44 hm, that didn't come out quite as I intended. that is to say, it sets the variable if it was previously unset. Mar 25 12:11:49 damn, amarok keeps on crashing... Mar 25 12:23:46 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * raa737596... 10/packages/zaurusd/ (files/mbinputmgr-honor-user-prefs.patch zaurusd_svn.bb): zaurusd: Honor user preferences when killing /starting mbinputmgr on rotation Mar 25 12:52:36 got error building opie-image for ep93xx with dev repository ... Mar 25 12:52:52 NOTE: package ep93xx-kernel-2.6.16: failed Mar 25 12:53:07 | cc1: error: invalid option `abi=aapcs' Mar 25 13:02:02 gremlin[it]: try disabling EABI in the defconfig Mar 25 13:03:17 it's visible also in menuconfig ? Mar 25 13:03:31 found ! Mar 25 13:03:31 cute, about 70GB of outbound traffic since the OZ release Mar 25 13:04:12 gremlin[it]: the ep93xx kernel also has patches to enable the framebuffer, but I couldn't get it to compile Mar 25 13:06:23 koen as soon i finish the payed work i'll take care of framebuffer ... Mar 25 13:06:56 gremlin[it]: grma is also working on that, maybe you could split the work? Mar 25 13:07:00 ~seen grma Mar 25 13:07:03 grma was last seen on IRC in channel #opie, 23h 42m 18s ago, saying: 'hi ! can someone explain me how to go with the message "Tap anywere on the screen to continue" if my touchscreen is not working, until know ? '. Mar 25 13:07:48 customer want to use qt/e ... so i'm tryin to produce a opie image for them (but i'll plug 2.4 kernel) Mar 25 13:08:49 koen yes ... i don't know if i'll have a board after i finish work ... or if i want buy one ... cirrus documentation quality really discourage me to continue working on such device :( Mar 25 13:09:22 also cirrus people seem to be not so 'open minded' :( :( :( Mar 25 13:09:31 at least the couple i talked with Mar 25 13:10:02 anyway all is my knowledge i can share ;) Mar 25 13:15:24 Grrr : "checking for memcpy... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES" while building gcc-4.0.2-r1 for x86. Any ideas ? Mar 25 13:15:34 uicmoc-native-2.3.10-r1 continue to fail to build on x86_64 machine ... cause sizeof(int) != sifeof(void *) Mar 25 13:18:29 gremlin[it]: heh. also, the cirrus hardware itself seems to be pretty sucky. Mar 25 13:21:05 pb_ i'm not an hardware guy so i can't say :) Mar 25 13:22:09 i was looking on soam ep93xx board ... ebbeddedarm or glomation ... but may i wait with some nice intel XScale 80219 came out :) Mar 25 13:22:24 s/with/till/ Mar 25 13:22:45 i saw the contron one is amazing :) Mar 25 13:27:39 RP: Do you know what platforms use your sysfs-led stuff? Mar 25 13:29:02 I've written a script that makes setting various leds easier. http://osx.kynisk.com/leds Mar 25 13:30:56 (warning: probably doesn't work in it's current state) Mar 25 13:35:09 mehh Mar 25 13:35:29 is anyone else seeing a _massive_ increase of SSH brute-force attacks? Mar 25 13:35:42 not for a while. I saw a lot of them a while back. Mar 25 13:35:52 as in a couple every hour Mar 25 13:36:01 hmm Mar 25 13:36:23 * CoreDump|home is gettings thousands of login attempts / day Mar 25 13:36:44 well, not thousands, but 1000+ Mar 25 13:36:50 http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/ Mar 25 13:37:37 or specifically, http://www.howtoforge.com/preventing_ssh_dictionary_attacks_with_denyhosts Mar 25 13:39:13 thanks, I'll have a look at this Mar 25 13:42:06 AwayNAiL: that could be done much more easily in something other than bash Mar 25 13:42:06 heh Mar 25 13:42:40 yes, but "something other than bash" isn't always available Mar 25 13:44:36 nice script though Mar 25 13:44:48 opie-bluetoothmanager-1.2.1+cvs-20060325-r0 fail too ... Mar 25 13:52:39 thx Mar 25 14:49:27 i have an IMAGE_CMD that depends on the ext2, should I just make a copy of IMAGE_CMD_ext2 and modifiy it to be "genext2fs ....; my command using ext2 image" or is there a cleaneer way to do it Mar 25 14:53:39 * chouimat is back. Mar 25 14:53:58 morning Mar 25 14:55:35 hi chouimat Mar 25 15:08:37 Anyone here who can help with x86-uml package ? Mar 25 15:08:47 oops Mar 25 15:09:03 uv1: iirc mickeyl did some uml stuff in the past Mar 25 15:09:43 arch/um/kernel/process.c: In function `check_ptrace': Mar 25 15:09:43 | arch/um/kernel/process.c:321: error: `PTRACE_SETOPTIONS' undeclared (first use in this function) Mar 25 15:09:54 Have problems to build the kernel. Mar 25 15:14:27 ping mickeyl Mar 25 15:15:12 any preferred monotone guis? Mar 25 15:15:59 hah i wished... Mar 25 15:21:15 mtsh works alright. quite slow though Mar 25 15:23:12 i suppose it will do for now. i like the interface Mar 25 15:52:34 hmm can i loop mount an ext2 rootfs image to install grub in it? Mar 25 16:09:01 TMM1: You dont need to!. Instead of calling grub-install, you can just dd stage1 into the first sector of the image ;-) But as dd needs superuser rights, you have to call that using e.g. sudo, which needs a password then. Mar 25 16:11:52 eh? dd doesn't need superuser rights. Mar 25 16:12:06 obviously you need to have write access to the image file, but one hopes you have that already. Mar 25 16:13:08 pb_: So maybe I was wrong here. In this case that should be the solution. Mar 25 16:37:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb98dff3c... 10/packages/matchbox-applet-tasks/mb-applet-tasks_1.0.0.bb: mb-applet-task: add a task switcher applet for matchbox-panel Mar 25 17:17:28 anyone can explain me about AUTOLOAD_MODULE ? Mar 25 17:17:42 (NSLU2/slugos related) Mar 25 17:18:20 sounds like an issue for #nslu2-linux Mar 25 17:18:35 hehe, that is where i am coming from ;) Mar 25 17:19:01 we are working on getting an updated image (with modularized kernel) in place Mar 25 17:19:12 and need to add some critical modules to /etc/modules Mar 25 17:20:06 searching the net leads to adding module_autoload_xxx line to conf Mar 25 17:20:42 but i am not getting any lines added to /etc/modules Mar 25 17:21:05 are you running update-modules? Mar 25 17:21:17 looks like it does not do that Mar 25 17:21:27 any trink to have the build do that? Mar 25 17:21:37 s/trink/trick/ Mar 25 17:21:39 I think it happens at boot time. Mar 25 17:22:42 can't find any refs to update-modules in rootfs/etc Mar 25 17:23:28 (k, must say that i did not 'run' the created image yet, just trying to asses the situation before flashing) Mar 25 17:26:09 isn't update-modules in /sbin or something? Mar 25 17:26:20 yes, it is Mar 25 17:26:31 but it should be called from one place or another Mar 25 17:26:48 or is that kernel magic? Mar 25 17:27:13 iirc the package files for the kernel modules call it Mar 25 17:27:54 on the build-host ? Mar 25 17:28:19 no, the target Mar 25 17:29:13 oh, yes, postinst has a call to update-modules Mar 25 17:29:22 but that does not seem to effect /etc/modules Mar 25 17:29:54 it should update that file Mar 25 17:30:11 the thing i do see is that (for example) usb-storage is placed in /etc/modutils.d Mar 25 17:30:25 given that you have the correct module_autoload_ = "blah" in your ${MACHINE}.conf Mar 25 17:31:30 what should and "blah" be ? Mar 25 17:32:10 the name you want to have the file in /etc and "blah" the name modprobe uses to load the module Mar 25 17:32:19 koen: Can we have module_autoload_usb-storage = "kernel-module-ohci-hcd usb-storage"? Mar 25 17:32:24 hmm... apparently not then Mar 25 17:32:53 so for: Mar 25 17:32:54 lib/modules/2.6.16/kernel/drivers/usb/storage/usb-storage.ko Mar 25 17:33:01 iirc it can only take one module per statement Mar 25 17:33:01 it should be something like: Mar 25 17:33:19 module_autoload_usb-storage = "usb-storage" Mar 25 17:33:21 ? Mar 25 17:34:03 (this i got from examples for other platforms) Mar 25 17:35:04 pepijn: yes, like that Mar 25 17:42:24 koen: if i don't want to build from scratch, which stamp to remove to make this take effect ? Mar 25 17:42:47 i now did a kernel rebuild and it does have some effect, but, as said, not /etc/modules Mar 25 17:49:02 pepijn: doesn't get /etc/modules populated *after* boot? Mar 25 17:52:01 koen: that was what i was trying to figure out Mar 25 17:52:11 but my q. is then, who does populate it? Mar 25 17:52:24 something in boot process needs to do that Mar 25 17:53:29 the ipkg configure script? Mar 25 17:53:40 S98Configure or something like that Mar 25 17:53:42 are *they* called on boot ??? Mar 25 17:53:46 Hi all Mar 25 17:53:52 hey Clenche Mar 25 17:53:56 i'll look at that one then Mar 25 17:54:03 dankjewel, koen ;) Mar 25 17:54:15 Can I ask just one n00b question ? :) Mar 25 17:55:12 Is OE integrates Tetsu's patches (especially video optimizations) Mar 25 17:55:51 you mean in the zaurus kernels? Mar 25 17:55:58 iirc OE defaults to 2.6 now Mar 25 17:56:05 no more 2.4-crappix Mar 25 17:57:53 koen, ok, so, what video performances can we expect comparing to a kernel integrating tetsu's patches ? Mar 25 17:58:23 I mean : Can I play a 720x650 divx in full screen ? Mar 25 17:58:26 no idea Mar 25 17:58:44 I use my nokia 770 to play videos Mar 25 18:00:38 koen: S98configure seems plausible Mar 25 18:01:23 koen, oki, thx Mar 25 18:05:07 NAiL: yeah, it might be a nice idea to allow multiple modules in a single autoload like that. Mar 25 18:05:32 pb_: yes. I don't know enough python to do it though Mar 25 18:06:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8c415dac... 10/packages/matchbox-applet-tasks/mb-applet-tasks_1.0.0.bb: mb-applet-tasks: fix typo Mar 25 18:06:53 Clenche: afaik fb support isn't yet in for the cxx00 devices Mar 25 18:10:12 the current MODULE_AUTOLOAD syntax is a bit silly, since you end up having to write out the name of the module twice for no real purpose. Mar 25 18:11:23 bbl Mar 25 18:12:22 Bernardo, oki, do you know if it's planned ? Mar 25 18:19:56 Bernardo: you mean bvdd, right? Mar 25 18:20:06 koen: yes, sorry Mar 25 18:20:11 Bernardo: you need fb support to display stuff on the screen :) Mar 25 18:21:00 Clenche: it is planned, but afaik nobody has yet had the time to start it Mar 25 18:48:06 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * re4c846c4... 10/packages/matchbox-applet-tasks/mb-applet-tasks_1.0.0.bb: matchbox-applet-tasks: Fix do_install() Mar 25 20:14:26 hey zecke Mar 25 21:17:25 * france is back (gone 18:28:32) Mar 25 23:27:09 hrw: possible 6000 alarm over suspend fix http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=1402 Mar 25 23:27:59 morning ljp Mar 25 23:38:24 hey pb_ Mar 25 23:54:48 * france is away: Away Mar 26 00:46:53 i can't figure out how to get grub installed on my ext2 bootstrap image. i can dd stage1 to the image but then the size changes to 512 and i can't loop mount it anymore Mar 26 00:48:39 TMM1: What's the exact dd command you use? Mar 26 00:53:12 dd if=stage1 of=rootfs.ext bs=512 count=1 Mar 26 01:03:03 dd if=rootfs.ext of=rootfs_tmp.ext skip=1 bs=512; cat stage1 rootfs_tmp.ext >rootfs_with_stage1.ext Mar 26 01:04:14 or maybe use the "notrunc" option of dd in the way you use it. Mar 26 01:08:34 TMM1, i don not (myself) belive it is possible Mar 26 01:08:39 do not* Mar 26 01:08:40 hrmf Mar 26 01:08:46 someone in the channel earlier suggested it Mar 26 01:09:03 how else could i accomplish it Mar 26 01:09:10 you MAY be able to install grub in an image IF you know the exact device sice and it's allocations Mar 26 01:09:33 otherwise you need to somehow run a script to set thses things after the image is installed Mar 26 01:09:52 but i can't run a script if the image won't boot Mar 26 01:10:02 that is correct Mar 26 01:10:18 thsi is the reason for installer shelles Mar 26 01:10:21 this* Mar 26 01:11:22 you possibly need to build/run a ram image to handle installing Mar 26 01:12:09 keep in mind this is only my thoughts, it may be possible some other way Mar 26 01:12:51 but grub reads from your device MBR or somewhere else it is told to Mar 26 01:13:06 it needs a valid partition table somewhere Mar 26 01:14:10 ok, but if i'm going to dd this ext2 image directly to a harddrive to boot an x86 machine- shouldn't i just be able to stick the stage1 at the first sector so it ends up on the mbr Mar 26 01:14:36 there is nothing to say that is where it exists Mar 26 01:15:31 hmm Mar 26 01:15:44 what your doing is a common issue with GHOST images Mar 26 01:16:22 or any other backup/replicating scheme that uses direct images Mar 26 01:17:10 it works perfectly on the same hardware it came from, but not other hardware Mar 26 01:18:22 ok well in this case i'm only interested in this particular hardware Mar 26 01:18:26 you may want to look at something like annaconda or one of the other distro installers for a couple ideas how to handle this issue Mar 26 02:35:32 night Mar 26 02:39:45 * france is back (gone 02:44:58) Mar 26 02:51:10 so i have a source file and its Makefile in a tar.gz , do I need to have 'all' and 'install' targets in the Makefile ? Mar 26 05:11:05 arg! Mar 26 05:11:09 anyone here alive? Mar 26 05:14:45 * JustinP nods Mar 26 05:14:46 Nope Mar 26 05:15:34 ZZZzzzzz Mar 26 05:30:32 i want the the grub package to include a /boot/grub symlink to /usr/lib/grub/ Mar 26 05:30:41 whats the best step in the grub bb file to add that Mar 26 06:01:52 * france is away: Away Mar 26 06:02:33 * france is back (gone 00:00:41) Mar 26 06:06:42 * france is away: Away Mar 26 08:19:58 goodmornig all ! Mar 26 08:50:13 good morning Mar 26 09:17:32 morning Mar 26 09:19:02 hey CoreDump|home Mar 26 09:19:28 ~kill perl Mar 26 09:19:29 * ibot_ shoots a magneto-ionized meson gun at perl Mar 26 09:19:34 stupid xmltv Mar 26 09:20:29 :) Mar 26 09:20:59 koen: how do you suggest kernels handle eabi/noneabi-ness Mar 26 09:21:08 overrides Mar 26 09:21:10 when building, and i mean to reference the defconfig Mar 26 09:21:12 hmm Mar 26 09:28:17 koen: I had a question here yesterday when I tried to compile mplayer or mplayer-atty for GPE. It always insistet on compiling libSDL-qpe since I had build an Opie image in the same buildroot. I've trashed tmp and started over only to find that mplayer requires uicmoc-native...isn't uicmoc an Opie thing? Mar 26 09:28:40 sheesh, bad spelling there... Mar 26 09:29:32 uicmoc is an opie thing Mar 26 09:29:40 damn Mar 26 09:29:46 you need to set a preferred provider for libsdl Mar 26 09:32:25 * CoreDump|home sets PREFERRED_PROVIDER_libsdl = "libsdl-x11" and retries Mar 26 09:36:36 what is the difference between mplayer and mplayer-atty? The .bb's description is identical :\ Mar 26 09:40:00 mplayer-atty has armv5 assembler Mar 26 09:40:14 the usual zaurus non portable crap Mar 26 09:42:46 hmm Mar 26 09:43:04 doesn't sound too good. I take it, it is faster? Mar 26 09:43:57 I sure hope it is Mar 26 09:44:23 =) Mar 26 09:48:47 sigh Mar 26 09:49:28 looks like setting PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/libsdl = "libsdl-x11" in my task.bb doesn't help. Having to set this in loca.conf would be _very_ unfortunate Mar 26 09:50:08 morning all Mar 26 09:50:22 hi do13 Mar 26 09:50:37 hey CoreDump|home Mar 26 09:50:39 hey do13 Mar 26 09:50:51 hi koen Mar 26 09:51:39 oops Mar 26 09:56:10 * CoreDump|home just found PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-qpe" in his local.conf. I gues that can't be overwritten later on Mar 26 10:02:27 Hi all ... Mar 26 10:03:05 We have a tree way merge error on "sharp-aticore-oss_1.0.1.bb"! Mar 26 10:06:07 well, merge it manually then? Mar 26 10:14:31 NOTE: package mplayer-1.0pre7: completed Mar 26 10:15:27 koen : I working on a ppc kernel (2.6.12 / 2.6.15.4) and have stumbled into the problem mentioned here -> http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=721 Mar 26 10:16:13 koen : on top of the arch specific files it also need to copy some more in order for external modules (hostap, madwifi) to be build correclty Mar 26 10:16:54 koen : The quetsion is should platform specific stuff go into the bb.classes or should they be handled by the relative kernel bb.file ? Mar 26 10:25:27 Ifaistos: I have no idea, could you post a comment to that bug and/or send a mail to oe@? Mar 26 10:29:16 koen : ok. will do so Mar 26 10:40:30 lol http://www.userfriendly.org/cartoons/archives/06mar/uf008926.gif **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Mar 26 10:59:56 2006