**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Mar 28 10:59:56 2006 Mar 28 11:15:16 which var maps to ${STAGING_DIR}/arm-linux ? Mar 28 11:16:50 sws: which subdir you need? Mar 28 11:18:38 RP: gratz on http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=e842f1c8ff8a88f290e26d1139e89aad02c4e0c3 (Add an RTC subsystem driver for the ARM SA1100/PXA2XX processor RTC.) Mar 28 11:21:31 the package i try to compile searches for header files which i copied to staging/arm-linux/package-name Mar 28 11:22:53 sws: Why not using something like STAGING_INCDIR ? Mar 28 11:23:06 sws: Have a look at conf/bitbake.conf Mar 28 11:23:29 * france is away: Away Mar 28 11:23:33 hrw|work: We're slowly getting there. I just need to rescue the LEDS code :-/ Mar 28 11:26:03 i will tweak the do_stage() to copy the files in STAGING_INCDIR subdirs and set EXTRA_OECONF to use STAGEDIR_INCDIR, i hoped the --prefix would work Mar 28 11:29:34 sws: If your package is autotooled or is compatible with autoconf syntax, have alook at classes/autotools.bbclass Mar 28 11:42:46 hrw|work: yeah, that's true. Perhaps we can add some people from the new OE developer list to OZ Mar 28 11:42:51 bbl, need to write some more Mar 28 11:45:03 cu mickey|writing Mar 28 12:01:45 a gread OEDN a la MSDN :) Mar 28 12:03:11 jeez... my tmp/work was over 10G... Mar 28 12:50:39 how may I prevent bitbake from building an empty -bin_-_arm.ipk ? it only contains /usr/bin but no files. Mar 28 12:51:55 do not create /usr/bin/ in do_install()? Mar 28 12:53:44 so i have to define do_install() in my bb file, I'm using a simple bb file just containing EXTRA_OECONF and do_stage() Mar 28 12:55:30 sws: you can ignore that bin package too Mar 28 12:58:22 what to you mean, in which way may I ignore it? Mar 28 13:00:25 ignore fact that it is built Mar 28 13:01:58 :) Mar 28 13:03:06 defining PACKAGES = "${PN}-dev ${PN}" did the trick, no more ${PN}-bin is build Mar 28 13:05:30 hi all Mar 28 13:33:19 <_law_> XorA, NOTE: package gpe-image-1.0: completed :-) Mar 28 13:35:43 _law_: woo woo Mar 28 13:36:10 folks, anybody familiar with ipkg? What happens if I put together an ipk file that overwrites several files from packages already installed? thanks Mar 28 13:41:11 chris144: ipkg will warn and not install Mar 28 13:42:51 hrw|work: ok Mar 28 13:45:12 hrw|work: I am just looking at the ipkg help. As I understand it I can force with -force-overwrite, right? Mar 28 13:45:30 yes Mar 28 13:45:39 hrw|work: are the overwritten files saved somewhere? Mar 28 13:45:43 no Mar 28 13:45:49 hrw|work: ok Mar 28 13:46:50 _law_: what gpe-image is that ? Mar 28 13:47:24 <_law_> ade|desk, gpe-image from .dev (openzaurus-unstable) Mar 28 13:47:38 ah cool Mar 28 13:47:46 the reason, why I am wondering about this is: For a certain machine all the specific files are scattered around in various .bb files in the machine_name folder in the bb subdir. Mar 28 13:48:28 So in order to add a new nachine properly I have to patch a whole bunch of .bb folders. Mar 28 13:49:14 What I am looking for is a possibility to have all the machine specific files in one ipk possibly. Mar 28 13:49:25 Any hints folks? Mar 28 13:50:32 if those packages need machine related changes... Mar 28 13:51:25 nope Mar 28 13:51:40 hrw|work: for example for my PC104 CPU board. I have a specific .profile, fstab, various additional init.d scripts and so on. Mar 28 13:52:16 hrw|work: in the moment I am simply, when the image is built overwriting all these files from the ipks with my specific files. Mar 28 13:53:01 interesting way Mar 28 13:53:47 hrw|work: well, yes, if you had a bunch of specific files, how would you get them into the rootfs image? Mar 28 13:53:48 I'm waiting for a day when one of coworkers will go into separate room.. he is no technically non-capable that it is more then irritating Mar 28 13:54:39 chris144: do action after it is being created? look at opie-image.bb and how it use IMAGE_PREPROCESS_COMMAND Mar 28 13:55:27 hrw|work: hold on, i post the image.bb to pastebin... Mar 28 13:56:46 ok Mar 28 13:57:00 hrw|work: http://pastebin.ca/47299 Mar 28 13:57:49 hrw|work: so this is what I was refering to. I am simply overwriting a bunch of files. Not a very clean way. So that is why am am looking for a better way. Mar 28 13:59:04 chris144: hm. you can do package crrii-base-files which will contain them but anyway it would be need to forced... Mar 28 13:59:51 hrw|work: you are right. Mar 28 14:00:03 chris144: OE was made to do this via machine overrides which you want to not use. Mar 28 14:01:27 hrw|work: machine overrides, ok, but then I had to submitt 10-20 patches for the specific CPU board I am using. Currently I am probably the only one who uses this board and it would take quite some time for all these patches to get accepted.... Mar 28 14:02:42 chris144: submit machine config, then patches for support it and I think that they can be easily added (if does not change anything other then adding machine support) Mar 28 14:03:43 hrw|work: ok, maybe I should try this Mar 28 14:04:16 hrw|work: ok, maybe I should try this Mar 28 14:15:23 chris144: btw - why removing ncurses-terminfo? too much space used and you need only few terminals? Mar 28 14:16:15 hrw|work: im on the phone, just a sec.. Mar 28 14:16:38 ok Mar 28 14:20:06 all: where should I file this bug: gtktooltips.c:127: internal compiler error: in do_SUBST, at combine.c:447 Mar 28 14:20:59 likewise: gcc print that info when got ICE (internal compiler error) Mar 28 14:21:13 likewise: I would try to run build again anyway to check does this repeat Mar 28 14:27:47 hrw|work: yes, it has repeated on me three times already. Mar 28 14:28:07 what exactly do you mean with gcc print that info? Mar 28 14:28:14 then report it to gcc bugtracker probably Mar 28 14:28:31 likewise: when I got that last time with gcc 3.4.4 there was info where to submit such info Mar 28 14:30:04 hrw:work: OK, I'll see if I can retrieve the pre-processed file from somewhere in the build, but I expect those files not to be on-disk, but rather piped... Mar 28 14:31:34 you can run it by hand too Mar 28 14:38:16 hrw|work: sure, I just did with -save-temps Mar 28 14:38:28 hrw|work: ok, long phone call over... Mar 28 14:39:07 chris144: btw - why removing ncurses-terminfo? too much space used and you need only few terminals? Mar 28 14:40:00 hrw|work:ah , the terminfo, well, not space, just to get the image as lean and clean as possible. I could leave it, but then the file tree is very long... Mar 28 14:40:20 ah Mar 28 15:04:34 hi Mar 28 15:08:07 * hrw|work NEED cherrypicker in monotone Mar 28 15:08:26 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfde76e0b... 10/packages/zbedic/ (9 files in 3 dirs): zbedic: updated to 1.0 Mar 28 15:27:40 bye Mar 28 15:32:23 cu Mar 28 15:32:45 bye hrw|gone Mar 28 16:10:51 anybody know why root=/dev/nfs doesn't work? I think I've got everything right in .config... Mar 28 16:17:41 ah, CONFIG_ROOT_NFS, not CONFIG_NFS_ROOT Mar 28 16:30:55 IF the end binary turns out to be monochrome in color, fix? Mar 28 16:31:02 The program is MC Mar 28 16:42:38 GTK does not build for me in OE for armeb, gcc 3.4.4: filed GCC bug 26906 at GCC Bugzilla. -Os was the cause. Mar 28 16:43:01 GCC ICE. Mar 28 17:53:30 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * rbad98b28... 10/packages/libxml/ (4 files): libxml2: Fixed the download URL's for all libxml2 packages. Mar 28 18:45:41 * chouimat is away: Interview and stuff Mar 28 19:57:34 RP? Mar 28 20:07:55 hi all Mar 28 20:08:10 hello Mar 28 20:08:45 Does someone here have a good idea how to manage bugs in oe packages vs. upstream bugs? Mar 28 20:11:04 hi Mar 28 20:11:27 hi hrw Mar 28 20:12:31 florian: if it is upstream bug then give note that it is upstream and that is should be reported there? but if bug is in my package (or unmaintained ones) I would go and check upstream bugtracker Mar 28 20:12:52 * hrw got ir keyboard and wifi card today Mar 28 20:13:42 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rdb690ccb... 10/packages/keymap-locales/keymap-locales.bb: keymap-locales: Enable packaging of DE keymaps for spitz, borzoi, c7x0 and collie Mar 28 20:13:47 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r008feafe... 10/packages/keymap-locales/keymap-locales.bb: keymap-locales: Include change from .oz3.5.4x Mar 28 20:13:51 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r302d21de... 10/packages/altboot/ (files/tosa/altboot-2.4.cfg altboot_0.0.0.bb): Mar 28 20:13:51 altboot: Add tosa support for kernel 2.4 Mar 28 20:13:51 Contributed by Sebastian S Mar 28 20:14:58 CoreDump|afk: can you update altboot in .oz354x? Mar 28 20:16:02 hrw: tosa will be in 1.0.6, yes ;) Mar 28 20:16:08 ok Mar 28 20:16:12 * CoreDump|afk is off to bed Mar 28 20:16:45 sweet dreams CoreDump|afk Mar 28 20:20:31 I'm using the dev branch, I've done a monotone update and it sill compiling the kernel 2.6.15-r12 instead of the 2.6.16 Mar 28 20:21:33 it's been a month I haven't update my local repository Mar 28 20:21:51 do I need to remove the tmp folder? Mar 28 20:21:59 atleast tmp/cache Mar 28 20:22:04 it appears to have it's DEFAULT_PREFERENCE set to -1 Mar 28 20:22:50 so just tmp/cache? Mar 28 20:23:03 hrw: i just wondered if there are systems to make this easier... Mar 28 20:23:41 cedric: if it has DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = -1 then you rather need PREFERRED_VERSION_linux-openzaurus = "2.6.16" Mar 28 20:23:52 florian: give me info if you find one Mar 28 20:25:22 I built a gpe-image from .dev yesterday for akita, and gpe-conf theme and gpe-edit are crashing on me Mar 28 20:25:39 is this known or should I submit some bugs to the bugtracker? Mar 28 20:26:02 * hrw do not know - does not trace .dev last weeks Mar 28 20:26:48 hrw: I don't have DEFAULT_PREFERENCE in my config file Mar 28 20:27:09 cedric: in linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb Mar 28 20:30:58 hrw: sure :-) Mar 28 20:31:29 johnX: nasty... Mar 28 20:32:08 I'll post bug reports later, I have to go out into the real world for a bit right now Mar 28 20:32:17 'later Mar 28 20:58:23 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r7fb75dee... 10/packages/meta/slugos-native.bb: slugos-native: Fixed the libc6 RDEPENDS problem Mar 28 20:58:27 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r8b2c1309... 10/conf/distro/slugos-packages.conf: slugos-packages: Removed obsolete openobex-apps reference Mar 28 21:15:37 * CosmicPenguin has been on vacation Mar 28 21:15:44 whats the state of the GIT fetcher? Does it work? Mar 28 21:16:09 works Mar 28 21:16:20 I used it once Mar 28 21:23:15 we'll see about that... :) Mar 28 21:23:48 anyway I disliked git after that.. it lack a way to fetch only source without history Mar 28 21:53:32 sigh - gcc has conflicting definitions Mar 28 21:53:43 HAS_GFORTRAN doesn't actually check LANGUAGES Mar 28 23:57:01 hmmm... the git fetcher doesn't like branches Mar 28 23:57:01 thats sad Mar 29 03:35:31 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r85ce4d79... 10/packages/altboot/ (4 files in 3 dirs): altboot: Altboot now remembers the last loop-image (or realfs),too, which allowsa true automatic booting of the last user-setting Mar 29 03:48:42 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rb339e0ff... 10/packages/zaurusd/ (files/mbinputmgr-honor-user-prefs.patch zaurusd_svn.bb): zaurusd: Remove error-messages on boot Mar 29 03:48:46 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * re432a68e... 10/packages/zaurusd/ (files/mbinputmgr-honor-user-prefs.patch zaurusd_svn.bb): zaurusd: Include changes from .oz354x Mar 29 06:55:54 hey, anyone around? Mar 29 06:58:35 I'm here Mar 29 07:00:40 mickey|writing: OE write access? Mar 29 07:31:56 hi Mar 29 07:32:03 TheMasterMind1: r/w for you? Mar 29 07:33:32 yea Mar 29 07:34:14 usual policy is like in many other projects: show us your patches and we will look at them and think about giving you r/w Mar 29 07:35:39 aw, kergoth can vouch for me, and i think mickeyl should remember me as well. but fair enough, i'll put up my changeset somewhere Mar 29 07:37:30 TheMasterMind1: I know that few people know you from past - but after last changesets from jnc we discussed about policy Mar 29 07:38:09 TheMasterMind1: btw - can I add you to openzaurus.org website in developers list (as one of 'inactive')? Mar 29 07:38:25 sure Mar 29 07:38:35 i used to be on there, back on the original OZ site i designed Mar 29 07:39:37 I want to add there everyone who works or worked on OZ Mar 29 07:40:28 cool Mar 29 07:42:21 Adam 'noda' Hooper put a lot of work into the first fully functional oz website Mar 29 07:43:25 I remember that page Mar 29 07:44:17 morning Mar 29 07:46:00 TheMasterMind1: still have database dump of it Mar 29 07:47:34 i just made a pretty page (i thought it was anyway, and it only worked in gecko) and noda took over from there and added IE css support and all the backend stuff. it was the first real download section we had on the site with sections for releases and mirrors and what not Mar 29 07:48:11 hi Mar 29 07:51:10 hi XorA obergix Mar 29 07:52:35 hrm trying to add a livecd iso image type to OE, but cd detection and mounting looks like a pain Mar 29 07:52:39 TheMasterMind1: can you look at http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/developers/ and give me description for you (and if can for rest of first OZ team)? Mar 29 07:52:47 I'm running into a little library issue... I've got three source files, and a header file for each... I'm combining these three into one shared library file called something different then the source files... How do I #include this library in my application? wich header file to include? #include sharedlibname.h gives me 'No such file or dir', wich I guess is correct since there are no sharedlibname.h file... only a .so file with that name...??! I'm confused ;) Mar 29 07:53:24 mndctrl: include thislibrary/header1.h thislibrary/header2.h Mar 29 07:53:45 hrw|work: ahhh... ok, I'll give that a try ;) tnx... Mar 29 07:55:43 heh, last time someone asked for me that i got quoted saying something like leave me alone i'm coding Mar 29 07:56:08 the blurb noda wrote about himself is at http://web.archive.org/web/20040205094600/openzaurus.org/oz_website/content/credits Mar 29 07:59:11 yay, OZ 3.2 :-) Mar 29 08:01:36 umm.. Aman 'TheMasterMind1' Gupta is a Linux enthusiast and buildroot/web/kernel hacker who got involved with OZ back when collie was the only zaurus around and kergoth still worked tech support ;) i guess i'll put up something on www.themastermind1.net, i've been meaning to anyway, so stick that link in there Mar 29 08:01:42 ok Mar 29 08:02:31 can I cut after 'collie was the only zaurus around'? Mar 29 08:03:19 TheMasterMind1: remember numatrix or Onyx4? Mar 29 08:04:00 hrw|work: sure Mar 29 08:04:16 yea definitely remember the nicks Mar 29 08:04:54 can you give me description for them? Mar 29 08:05:39 don't have names or memory enough to write much.. wish i still had my irc logs around would help me remember Mar 29 08:05:55 i think ibot has logs somewhere Mar 29 08:06:10 I have name/surname for them Mar 29 08:06:36 TheMasterMind1: can we move that thread to #openzaurus anyway? Mar 29 08:07:10 oh hrm, yea. didn't even notice Mar 29 08:14:11 RP, : howto update poky ? i made svn update , but howto tell bitbake to recompile updated package ? Mar 29 08:14:16 ( like emerge do ) Mar 29 08:15:56 ok looks like squashfs initrd is the way to go Mar 29 08:17:49 morning all Mar 29 08:18:34 hi dirk Mar 29 08:18:46 Genesis: use bitbake? Mar 29 08:18:53 hey Marcin Mar 29 08:18:55 yeap Mar 29 08:20:03 i read the bitbake manual but i find nothing about update Mar 29 08:20:35 Genesis: it PR is bumped (should be after update) then bitbake will rebuild it when you say 'bitbake updatedpackagename' Mar 29 08:20:55 sounds like you confuse bitbake (build system) with monotone (source control) Mar 29 08:21:34 seems to be no monotone in poky Mar 29 08:21:53 why choose monotone when you have already svn ? Mar 29 08:22:06 ( on OE ) Mar 29 08:23:11 Genesis: ah, your running from a svn mirror of OE, then svn update + bitbake packagename/imagename should build updates Mar 29 08:23:43 :/ Mar 29 08:23:48 then ipgk can do its magic if you point it at the right feeds Mar 29 08:34:32 XorA: This is poky which is an svn repository containing both bitbake and a cutdown OE. Mar 29 08:35:02 Genesis: Next time you build an image it will build anything that's changed if you reuse your last build directory Mar 29 08:35:15 hi RP Mar 29 08:35:19 Genesis: (and svn update will pull the svn changes) Mar 29 08:35:24 hi hrw|work Mar 29 08:35:32 morning all in fact :) Mar 29 08:35:37 RP: do you know where I can find infos how to get irda keyboard working under 2.6? Mar 29 08:35:47 hey Richard Mar 29 08:36:03 * hrw|work got Ir keyboard and CF wifi card yesterday (and stylus which does not fit in any Z) Mar 29 08:36:26 hrw|work: I'm afraid I don't - I know very little about irda Mar 29 08:36:48 ok Mar 29 08:37:04 oki RP thx Mar 29 08:37:33 i always had pb on the matchbox compilation Mar 29 08:37:38 shit :/ Mar 29 08:39:02 hey RP Mar 29 08:39:32 mithro: hi, and TYVM :) Mar 29 08:39:55 RP: well I did break your other one :P Mar 29 08:40:59 mithro: I seem to have bad luck with stylii as someone actually pinched the previous one. I was just thankfully it wasn't the device you dropped :) Mar 29 08:41:11 i'm assuming you have discovered the pen? Mar 29 08:41:38 mithro: I have - I actually used it yesterday as no proper pen was handy :) Mar 29 08:42:03 RP: those sharp styluses break at the tip point the moment you drop them Mar 29 08:42:40 There is a certain irony in including a pen in a stylus for a hitech device that should remove the need for paper :) Mar 29 08:42:59 i've destroyed like 6 so far, which is why I switched to the type I sent you Mar 29 08:43:34 mithro: I've only ever dropped them on carpet so i've been lucky Mar 29 08:43:48 i've had one break on carpet! :/ Mar 29 08:44:38 mithro: That is unlucky :-/ Mar 29 08:45:30 I broke my collie stylus about 2 hours after getting collie, it survived a further 2 years superglued Mar 29 08:45:57 I've dropped a couple of the devices onto carpet from desk height. (and also the 760 onto concrete which thankfully only chipped the case) Mar 29 08:46:51 i've never actually dropped a device, just the stylus Mar 29 08:47:44 I dropped C860 and all the cards went flying, didnt damage the device though, just a hunt for SD card which went miles Mar 29 08:48:26 XorA: I have an image of you standing at the edge of the grand canyon, holding a C860 Mar 29 08:48:59 I dropped the tosa from my desk, but the network cable wasn't long enough so he didn't reached the ground :) Mar 29 08:49:26 SD cards do that - I've had one fly 10m which took an age to find as I didn't think it could have escaped that far Mar 29 08:49:46 RP: SD olympics for that one I think :-) Mar 29 08:50:20 XorA: I think the wind caught it... Mar 29 08:50:40 The 760 fell out a pocket when I bent forward, the other two as I caught the charging cables with my foot and pulled them off the desk. They now charge on the floor :) Mar 29 08:51:42 obergix[work]: Thanks for the udev debugging - I'll get that looked at along with some other udev issues I'm aware of. Mar 29 08:56:06 I dropped memorystick into wine - worked still after drying Mar 29 09:02:59 RP: Ive tripped over charging cables uncounted times, luckilly only when sober and Ive got a good left handed catch :-) Mar 29 09:05:38 XorA: Drink more => Trip less? Mar 29 09:06:40 likewise: I like that logic Mar 29 09:27:44 RP: glad I was able to debug... at least when it's not in the kernel, it's much more easy for me Mar 29 09:31:54 hrw|work: sorry for bugging you again, but I still get 'No such file or dir' when trying to include my lib... I'm pretty sure its in the library path, cause I've put it in /usr/local/lib (this is not for familiar, yet) and put that dir in ld.so.conf... ldconfig finds it... Mar 29 09:32:48 mndctrl: -L/usr/local/lib -lgsmc for LDFLAGS? Mar 29 09:33:16 hrw|work: hmm... I'll give it a try ;) Mar 29 09:34:10 mndctrl: if you want to link lib you have to tell linker where it is stored (if it is in nonstandard location) Mar 29 09:35:50 RP, : checking matchbox compile logs : Prefix: /usr Mar 29 09:35:50 Plug-in location /usr/lib/matchbox/desktop Mar 29 09:35:50 Source code location: /home/ronan/poky/build/tmp/work/matchbox-desktop-0.9.1+svn20060120-r0/matchbox-desktop Mar 29 09:35:50 Mar 29 09:36:20 hrw|work: still doesent find it :/ is there a way to display the .h files in my shared library, so I can see if I've built it correctly? Mar 29 09:36:24 that seems to have a prefix problem isn't it ? Mar 29 09:38:53 i really don't know what to do to get an image :/ Mar 29 09:41:19 Genesis: Matchbox is installed with that prefix on the device so that is correct. DESTDIR is also prepended to directories when being worked with whilst building Mar 29 09:42:28 ho oki Mar 29 09:42:34 i don't know how to find the bug Mar 29 09:42:58 Genesis: I'm not sure how to help :-/ Mar 29 09:43:59 i show you the compilation errors last time Mar 29 09:44:28 morning all Mar 29 09:44:29 i tried to searsh the bug, update , recompile many time Mar 29 09:44:41 hi ade Mar 29 09:45:10 http://pastebin.com/628422 Mar 29 09:46:47 you said me that it doesn't have to compile against -L/usr/X11R6/lib Mar 29 09:48:20 can someone please put libpcap-0.9.3.tar.gz somewhere online? it seems that tcpdump.org is down Mar 29 09:49:13 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/libpcap-0.9.3.tar.gz Mar 29 09:49:33 thanks! got it Mar 29 09:59:22 perharps i should mail mallum@handhelds.org Mar 29 09:59:43 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rec9743c0... 10/packages/libschedule/ (libschedule_0.13.bb libschedule_0.14.bb libschedule_0.16.bb): libschedule: Add 0.16, drop 0.13 and 0.14 Mar 29 10:03:36 re Mar 29 10:17:35 good morning Mar 29 10:21:20 hi Bernardo Mar 29 10:51:36 person which donated something is called 'donor' in english? Mar 29 10:52:02 yes Mar 29 10:52:13 thx **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Mar 29 10:59:56 2006