**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 29 10:59:56 2006 Mar 29 11:06:34 Genesis: If you can share some files, I might be able to helkp track it down - the place to start is matchbox-desktop-xxx-rx/modules/Makefile Mar 29 11:21:59 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rb110448e... 10/conf/distro/ (debianslug.conf openslug.conf ucslugc.conf): slugos: Add required usb/scsi modules to rootfs Mar 29 11:28:40 hi cedric Mar 29 11:29:55 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rf0b12dff... 10/packages/slugos-init/ (files/turnup slugos-init_0.10.bb): slugos-init: Make linuxrc load all the necessary modules Mar 29 12:14:02 ERROR: dependency openobex-apps (for libopieobex0) not satisfied Mar 29 12:14:14 is that an old one, or a real bug right now Mar 29 12:18:52 hey Liam Mar 29 12:18:55 jnc: new Mar 29 12:19:05 hey Dirk Mar 29 12:19:05 :/ Mar 29 12:19:13 morning all Mar 29 12:19:20 jnc: iirc newer openobex contain openobex-apps - look into monotone log Mar 29 12:19:32 updating now Mar 29 12:19:34 do13, not managed any tosa work yet :( Mar 29 12:19:37 it's been a day or two Mar 29 12:19:48 lrg: np Mar 29 12:19:52 do13, other things are taking up my time atm Mar 29 12:20:17 do13, I upgraded to 2.6.16, but it failed on building the wlan drivers Mar 29 12:20:35 lrg: use wlan-ng svn Mar 29 12:20:47 do13, thanks - will do Mar 29 12:21:29 lrg: What does RPU = 0 means? Mar 29 12:21:49 lrg: The datasheet says reserved Mar 29 12:22:26 * france is back (gone 24:59:02) Mar 29 12:22:30 do13, iirc it's todo with pen down pressure on the wm9705. I dont think it should be in the 12 driver. If it is, then its a bug :( Mar 29 12:23:28 lrg: wm97xx_read_aux_adc stores the digitizer register and WM97XX_AUX_PREPARE clears this. The the aux inputs are sampled Mar 29 12:24:06 lrg: But AC97_WM97XX_DIGITISER2 is never restored, so the touch driver uses RPU=0 which is reserved Mar 29 12:24:51 lrg: I guess this is my problem with pen down events Mar 29 12:25:07 * france is away: Away Mar 29 12:28:05 do13, this looks promising and potentially a bug. Mar 29 12:28:22 I still can't get this linking-business right... Lets take it from the top... I have a buch of filename.c and filename.h files... I compile them -fPIC and put them in a shared library calle somethingotherthenfilename.so (gcc -fPIC -shared -o somethingohterthenfilename.so filename1.o filename2.o) with no headerfile for the .so only for the .o, and now I want an application to use this library... what do I need in appname.c with regards to #include ??? Mar 29 12:29:32 gcc -c appname.c fails with "incompatible types of assignment" when calling a function in the library... Mar 29 12:29:36 lrg: Better way new IOCTL functions which save and restore the settings Mar 29 12:29:42 this is then including nothing... Mar 29 12:30:39 do13, do you have time to test ? Mar 29 12:31:07 lrg: not yet. After work. Mar 29 12:31:31 do13, np, fingers are crossed that this is the bug Mar 29 12:52:08 * chouimat is back. Mar 29 12:52:22 morning Mar 29 13:00:51 hi folks Mar 29 13:01:43 howdy, mickey, how's the writing going? Mar 29 13:01:52 slower than I'd like Mar 29 13:02:02 but at least there's progress and that makes it bearable :D Mar 29 13:02:38 (-; I just did an MS thesis, and it took a while. i can only imagine! Mar 29 13:02:47 congrats. received the degree yet? Mar 29 13:02:53 hey mickey|workbreak Mar 29 13:03:03 hey lrg, how are things? Mar 29 13:03:09 yearrrrs ago (-; Mar 29 13:03:11 hi mickey|workbreak Mar 29 13:03:28 hi hrw Mar 29 13:03:32 cheers tmbinc Mar 29 13:03:38 mickey|workbreak, not too bad, very busy atm - preparing for CELF Mar 29 13:04:06 lrg: ah excellent. Will you do some namedropping for us at CELF? :) Mar 29 13:04:27 mickey|workbreak: I want to make two changes in hostap-modules: 1. move hostap_cs.conf to hostap-conf for ALL versions (kernel and out-of-kernel ones). 2. update to 0.4.7 for all 2.4.18 machines Mar 29 13:04:32 i guess the groups all know us, but are still hesitating Mar 29 13:05:00 hrw|work: sounds good. 0.4.7 for 2.4.18 may be a bit of work Mar 29 13:05:15 mickey|workbreak, indeed I will :) Mar 29 13:05:21 lrg: cool :) Mar 29 13:05:26 ah that reminds me... Mar 29 13:05:27 mickey|workbreak: 0.4.7 need only building - works out-of-box on collie Mar 29 13:05:29 * mickey|workbreak pushes some upgrades Mar 29 13:05:40 hrw|work: oh! cool. Mar 29 13:05:55 mickey|workbreak: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4-hostap/0.4.7/ if want to test Mar 29 13:05:57 i thought they were slowly killing compliance with 2.4 kernels Mar 29 13:06:05 thans Mar 29 13:06:08 thanks, as well Mar 29 13:06:12 mickey|workbreak: orinoco 0.15rc2+ dropped 2.4 Mar 29 13:06:31 hey mickey|workbreak Mar 29 13:06:34 mickey|workbreak: wanted to get you know - you are still listed as hostap maintainer Mar 29 13:07:10 hrw|work: right. Mar 29 13:07:44 * mickey|workbreak stabs CIA Mar 29 13:07:56 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r19c9c348... 10/packages/uicmoc/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Mar 29 13:07:56 uicmoc4: upgrade from 4.0.1 to 4.1.1 Mar 29 13:07:56 NOTE: fix-mkspecs needs to be upgraded, 64bit platform patch needs to be added Mar 29 13:08:33 mickey|workbreak: can we drop wlan-ng 0.2.2? Mar 29 13:09:41 do13: yes, we don't need that anymore Mar 29 13:09:53 we need to keep the pre something though Mar 29 13:10:07 tosa 2.4 needs pre... Mar 29 13:10:11 ya Mar 29 13:10:42 do we needs the wlan-ng-cs driver ? Mar 29 13:16:20 _cs ? yes, that's the card services interface module Mar 29 13:16:50 mickey|workbreak: wlan-ng prism2_cs.ko Mar 29 13:18:04 It's broken on the 2.6.16 kernel :( Mar 29 13:18:23 do13_: rather do not needed - prism2/pcmcia is rather handled by hostap Mar 29 13:18:55 hrw|work: we need that for prism2/usb. Mar 29 13:19:05 do13: that's unfortunate. I hope they'll fix it Mar 29 13:19:06 mickey|workbreak: prism2_cs? Mar 29 13:19:29 mickey|workbreak: no not for prism2/usb Mar 29 13:19:32 hrw|work: i need to see the module deps again, isn't prism2_cs the top level module ? Mar 29 13:19:47 oh, prism2_usb is standalone Mar 29 13:19:48 mickey|workbreak: hostap_cs depend on hostap Mar 29 13:19:51 i forgot that. Mar 29 13:19:56 in that case we can do without _cs, yes. Mar 29 13:20:08 prism2 needs p80211 Mar 29 13:20:14 prism2_usb needs p80211 Mar 29 13:20:24 so prism2_cs is not at all used on tosa Mar 29 13:20:25 ? Mar 29 13:20:44 my tosa has p80211 and prism2_usb Mar 29 13:20:47 excellent. dump it then. for everything != usb, hostap is to be preffered anyway. Mar 29 13:21:12 * hrw|work want cherrypicker in monotone.... Mar 29 13:22:18 * mickey|workbreak wants 0.26 out Mar 29 13:23:24 gui would be nice to have too ;) Mar 29 13:23:32 oki RP , i install a ftpd to debug this :x stuff :) Mar 29 13:24:18 RP: re. the "misterious" mail LED lighting - it looks like the default usage for the mail LED is to show mtd traffic, that's what I have been seeing :) Mar 29 13:24:48 mickey|workbreak: Ah, yes - mtd activity is default :) Mar 29 13:25:00 Genesis: Uploading files to a webserver is the normal approach but I guess ftp is fine too Mar 29 13:25:34 yes but i need the both Mar 29 13:25:48 mickey|workbreak: you can easily change it to show charge or few other things Mar 29 13:26:04 i'm under a windows network :/ Mar 29 13:26:45 mickey|workbreak: I'm looking forward to the opie applet to let you change the LED function :) Mar 29 13:32:00 RP: heh. looking forward to that as well... because it means I will have submitted and have fun coding again ;) Mar 29 13:34:42 mickey|workbreak: I can imagine :) Mar 29 13:36:51 mickey|workbreak: Do you plan to visit 'musikmesse'? Mar 29 13:37:12 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18541 (pdaX: Who Are Our Developers?) reminds me my idea of 'People behing OE' Mar 29 13:38:40 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r880318ac... 10/conf/machine/include/poodle-2.6.conf: poodle-2.6: Update to sync with zaurus-clamshell-2.6. Add alsa tools in anticiaption of a poodle ALSA driver under 2.6. Mar 29 13:39:37 RP: poodle on a way? Mar 29 13:40:28 hrw|work: No idea - I've heard nothing further Mar 29 13:40:58 hrw|work: Before that, I agreed to help cedric with poodle 2.6 and this is to fix the hostap-modules issue he was seeing Mar 29 13:41:03 sooner or later we will know Mar 29 13:41:08 ah.. yes. remember Mar 29 13:44:50 do13: oh, yes, of course. I guess I will go on friday, because my boss is not in the office and the I can take two or three hours during lunch break. It's 4 minutes walking from my office to the Messe. Will you go, too? Mar 29 13:45:24 hrw|work: yeah. btw., it would be helpful to associate real e-mail addresses to the key addresses, because the key email adresses are virtual. Mar 29 13:46:52 mickey|workbreak: No time this weekend :( Mar 29 13:50:08 mickey|workbreak: I like to avoid posting emails in public place Mar 29 13:54:01 hrw|work: not even in an obfuscated way? Mar 29 13:54:24 i guess the key e-mail addresses will generate spam as well, btw. Mar 29 13:54:32 even if it won't be delivered Mar 29 13:54:44 if we decide to make the addresses live at some point of time, we will get spam from day one :)) Mar 29 14:00:18 <_law_> bbl Mar 29 14:00:31 ok, back to work ;) Mar 29 14:08:21 ehm.. I'm using familiar, and now suddenly have to set a DISTRO_VERSION for that. I'm using familiar unstable-20060109, so DISTRO_VERSION="20060109" ? Mar 29 14:10:11 familiar-unstable.conf should set DISTRO_VERSION already Mar 29 14:12:38 actually it does... hmm.. strange why bitbake complains then?! hmm.. Mar 29 14:17:22 I'll try to pull the repository agian... Mar 29 14:18:48 RP, : the export of $OEPATH seems to be failed Mar 29 14:19:24 $ export | grep OEPATH Mar 29 14:19:24 declare -x OEPATH Mar 29 14:21:28 the export is made , but it doesn't have the pwd set Mar 29 14:35:42 RP, : i think you made a mistake between OEROOT & OEPATH Mar 29 14:36:07 in the end of the setdevenv script Mar 29 14:38:37 Genesis: Well spotted - I'll fix, thanks Mar 29 14:40:04 Genesis: fixed Mar 29 14:41:50 RP, : in the conf/local.conf Mar 29 14:42:01 we could use : Mar 29 14:42:02 DL_DIR = ${OEROOT}/sources Mar 29 14:42:02 BBFILES := ${OEROOT}/openembedded/packages/*/*.bb Mar 29 14:42:26 by default , instead of "POKYROOT" Mar 29 14:42:35 ( it's a suggestion ) Mar 29 14:45:04 Genesis: You could I guess although I wanted to remain compatible with OE as far as possible and this isn't a standard OE variable. It also becomes a non issue once you' Mar 29 14:45:12 ve generated your version of local.conf Mar 29 14:45:19 oki oki Mar 29 14:45:28 i was guessing something like that Mar 29 14:46:31 we could use the bitbake var $BBDIR Mar 29 14:46:46 to remain compatible Mar 29 14:46:56 isn't it ? Mar 29 14:47:14 BBDIR is bitbake's directory, not OE's Mar 29 14:48:05 oki i'll see the OE variable Mar 29 14:49:58 Is somebody working on moving to glibc locale fix from dev to 0.83? I have tried to build by copying the glibc-package.bbclass and glibc_2.3.5+cvs* from dev to 083. The build will however fail as also the classes/package.bbclass in 0.83 and dev are different. Mar 29 14:56:01 monotone: 986,4 k | 162,0 k | 781 | 184 | 35 Mar 29 14:56:06 and it is stuck ;( Mar 29 14:56:20 lamikr: contact Rene Wagner Mar 29 15:03:48 someone with tosa here? Mar 29 15:04:27 hrw|work: no :) Mar 29 15:04:40 lrg: ping Mar 29 15:05:19 hrw|work: do you want something tested? Mar 29 15:06:12 do13: first need to get it built Mar 29 15:06:30 do13: experimenting with WAKEUP_DEF_SRC of sharpsl_power.c Mar 29 15:07:02 built Mar 29 15:08:00 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/tosa-r47/zImage.bin-0329 is tosa kernel for testing does it wake on alarm Mar 29 15:09:04 hrw|work: probably later today. If have to leave in a few minutes Mar 29 15:09:22 ok Mar 29 15:11:34 do13, pong Mar 29 15:12:14 hrw|work: What's renes irc nickname? Mar 29 15:13:27 lamikr: reenoo Mar 29 15:13:32 hi Mar 29 15:13:44 hi CoreDump|home Mar 29 15:14:07 hi CoreDump|home Mar 29 15:14:16 lrg: I'll test Mar 29 15:14:41 do13, I hope that's the problem. Thanks Mar 29 15:17:05 hmm whats the countrycode for finland? fi? Mar 29 15:18:32 yes Mar 29 15:18:46 thanks Mar 29 15:19:13 And for phonecalls, the countrycode is +358 Mar 29 15:20:00 lrg: cool 1 minute without pen down events:) Mar 29 15:20:30 do13, excellent news :) Mar 29 15:28:56 hmm.. looks like I got WE19 in 2.4.18 ;) Mar 29 15:31:32 "Wireless Extensions v19 for kernel 2.6.13. Misc updates and cleanups. You will need WT-27-pre25 or later." Mar 29 15:32:22 cu Mar 29 15:35:01 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r0c5e33aa... 10/packages/keymap-locales/ (6 files in 6 dirs): keymap-locales: Include finnish keymap from .dev Mar 29 15:35:07 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rb29e6e61... 10/packages/keymap-locales/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Mar 29 15:35:07 keymap-locales: Add finnish keymap to Akita, Borzoi, Spitz, C7x0 & Collie Mar 29 15:35:07 Courtesy of arzgi from oesf.org Mar 29 15:44:30 * chouimat is away: stuff :( Mar 29 15:48:23 /stuff ;) Mar 29 16:27:27 mickey|writing: Kernel Currently compiled with Wireless Extension v19. (Linux collie 2.4.18-rmk7-pxa3-embedi) Mar 29 16:57:17 libschedule: atd.c:22:26: gpe/errorbox.h: No such file or directory Mar 29 17:03:09 likewise: check your libgpewidget installation Mar 29 17:06:40 installation?? I started an slugos build, I do not have to have anything installed, do I? Mar 29 17:07:03 ~lart locale-base Mar 29 17:07:04 * ibot strangles locale-base with a doohicky mouse cord Mar 29 17:08:05 pb_: Could you please elaborate? Mar 29 17:10:56 * CosmicPenguin is too lazy to read his e-mail Mar 29 17:11:13 How is X7.0 working these days? Mar 29 17:16:05 what's a small distro within OE that is well tested? Mar 29 17:28:01 bitbake travis-db1200-2.6 ... fail at initscripts-1.0-r69 Mar 29 17:28:29 and the log says: install: cannot stat `/pv10/tmp/work/initscripts-1.0-r69/amdpm': No such file or directory Mar 29 17:29:45 any ideas Mar 29 17:31:19 Oops - that looks like our bad Mar 29 17:31:54 Does anyone know anything about the gismondo? Mar 29 17:32:26 tux1800: you're using the OE tree from AMD? Mar 29 17:32:34 yes Mar 29 17:32:46 Ohhh... Mar 29 17:32:46 no no no Mar 29 17:33:18 * CosmicPenguin was worried there for a second Mar 29 17:33:25 the snapshot from yesterday, ad updated Mar 29 17:34:25 openssh is in task-bootstrap for sl-cxxxx? nice Mar 29 17:34:26 are you talking about the oe_20050727083537.tgz Mar 29 17:34:49 as stated in amd doc about dbau1200 and oe Mar 29 17:34:57 hey Mar 29 17:35:02 RP: hey Mar 29 17:35:06 hi zecke Mar 29 17:36:25 mickey|writing: are you home as well? Mar 29 17:36:47 tux1800: what version number of the OE kit did you get? Mar 29 17:39:15 not shure how to tell-you, where should i check for it Mar 29 17:39:23 well, I'm going to break bitbake now Mar 29 17:39:32 anyone got a veto against that now? Mar 29 17:40:38 heh - is it tagged? Mar 29 17:40:55 tux1800: whats the name of the targz you pulled from the AMD developers site? Mar 29 17:41:02 CosmicPenguin: no - we missed that oppurtunity Mar 29 17:41:08 * CosmicPenguin snaps his fingers Mar 29 17:41:09 dang Mar 29 17:41:22 CosmicPenguin: my change can reduce parsing time by 50% Mar 29 17:42:05 au1200-dev-kit_v1.0-r3.tar.gz Mar 29 17:42:56 zecke: rock on Mar 29 17:43:24 CosmicPenguin: I will commit now, try compiling... Mar 29 17:43:42 tux1800: All those files should be in that tarball - have you changed anything manually? Mar 29 17:46:17 no, but if so it wasn't intentionaly. They should have end up in alchemy folder under /work ? Mar 29 17:47:52 no Mar 29 17:48:15 Your best bet is to wipe everything away, and untar a fresh build and try again Mar 29 17:49:07 just for spot check where i would normaly find it? Mar 29 17:49:22 find what? Mar 29 17:50:19 the missing files Mar 29 17:51:24 amdpm should be packages/initscripts/initscripts-1.0/travis/amdpm Mar 29 18:03:50 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rf1488e35... 10/packages/matchbox-wm/ (4 files in 4 dirs): matchbox-wm: Do not map F11 to fullscreen on Akita / Spitz / Borzoi as F11 is the "menu" key on these machines. Mar 29 18:03:54 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * re1a986b0... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (4 files in 4 dirs): keylaunch: Enable "menu" key for SL-Cxxxx Mar 29 18:03:59 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rc7ace23c... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Mar 29 18:03:59 gpe-session-scripts: Set default font-size for SL-Cxxxx to 12, Mar 29 18:03:59 anything below is barely readable. Mar 29 18:04:03 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rd6669e30... 10/packages/matchbox-wm/ (4 files in 4 dirs): matchbox-wm: Include update from .oz354x Mar 29 18:04:07 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r3472c89e... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (4 files in 4 dirs): keylauch: include changes from .oz354x Mar 29 18:04:12 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * re00cbe48... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/ (2 files in 2 dirs): gpe-session-scripts: Include change from .oz354x Mar 29 18:14:57 someone wants to join a OpenEmbedded workshop at LinuxTag 2006? Mar 29 18:21:34 when's the linuxtag? Mar 29 18:22:06 koen: good question :) Mar 29 18:22:36 koen: oh pretty close 3th to 6th of may Mar 29 18:25:08 hrm Mar 29 18:25:16 it's 10 hours by train, so I'll skip that Mar 29 18:31:05 oh Mar 29 18:57:14 How can I override the optimization flags for a single package? Mar 29 19:02:06 ping RP Mar 29 19:05:01 cedric__: pong Mar 29 19:05:03 hi zecke Mar 29 19:05:40 RP: if you feel like, you could give the new bitbake a try Mar 29 19:06:29 RP: I've done an update and after a clean of the boostrap-image, it's still compiling the external module... Mar 29 19:07:17 cedric__: Could you try adding PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-conf = "hostap-conf" to your local.conf file? Mar 29 19:07:41 zecke: I've just tried only to find python appears to have gone missing :-/ Mar 29 19:08:08 RP: oh :( Mar 29 19:08:30 zecke: I knew the upgrading I did earlier went too smoothly :) Mar 29 19:09:18 hey Mar 29 19:09:20 cookie master Mar 29 19:09:32 anyone interested in a midi sequencer/composition package for X11? Mar 29 19:09:36 koen: you read logs? Mar 29 19:09:45 zecke: yes, of course Mar 29 19:10:00 zecke: I usually don't try new stuff without reading logs Mar 29 19:10:18 koen: actually the king from the 'little prince' would match more closely than a cookie monster Mar 29 19:10:49 I really should read that book Mar 29 19:11:10 koen: The king demands the sun to rise Mar 29 19:11:24 * RP evidently doesn't read logs :) Mar 29 19:11:28 koen: but only when the sun is about to raise Mar 29 19:11:29 i should learn french (again) so I can read that book :( Mar 29 19:11:44 though the english translation isn't too bad Mar 29 19:11:47 wow, bitbake without cache is as fast as r329 with cache Mar 29 19:11:52 koen: and he sais, a good king only demands something that is doable Mar 29 19:11:57 zecke: yes Mar 29 19:12:04 I also know why python isn't working - redownloading a few MBs of files :-/ Mar 29 19:12:06 he is a good king. Mar 29 19:12:19 even if he doesn't seem to know much about roses Mar 29 19:12:29 or baobab Mar 29 19:12:32 raduga: hehe Mar 29 19:13:21 to apply that to BitBake. Don't search every key for an override Mar 29 19:13:49 instead we store a map of Overrides and Special vars Mar 29 19:13:57 oh and I need to fix 'patcher' Mar 29 19:14:10 zecke: This sounds like a very useful speedup :) Mar 29 19:14:37 RP: right, we pay a bit more at setVar Mar 29 19:14:47 RP: but have a really fast update_data call Mar 29 19:14:58 zecke: Fine by me :) Mar 29 19:15:02 RP: I pass the test case for update data, but I think there will be bugs Mar 29 19:15:26 zecke: If we change OVERRIDES, does the cache realise and adapt? Mar 29 19:15:55 RP: I find the last '_' and store the thing behind it Mar 29 19:16:12 RP: so changing the overrides is easy Mar 29 19:16:28 RP: There is one thing that sounds wrong though Mar 29 19:16:51 RP: imagine TEST_omap = "foo" TEST_omap_append = " hey" Mar 29 19:17:02 RP: calling update_data once will give use "foo hey" Mar 29 19:17:19 RP: calling it twice will result in "foo" - just from reading the code I assume that Mar 29 19:18:48 That could be argued as correct... Mar 29 19:18:56 As long as that's what's always happened Mar 29 19:19:14 and I have killed the _delete flag Mar 29 19:19:28 (the only user is patcher.bb) Mar 29 19:20:08 anybody want to guess how long it takes to parse OE with the new bitbake with and without a cache? Mar 29 19:20:30 koen: parsing qte*.bb takes about a second Mar 29 19:20:48 http://oe.pastebin.com/629400 Mar 29 19:20:57 without cache ~2 minutes Mar 29 19:21:06 with cache ~26 seconds Mar 29 19:22:08 do I have to worry about this --> multiple providers are available (glibc, glibc-intermediate) Mar 29 19:22:23 same thing for the tslib Mar 29 19:22:43 cedric__: 'yes', BitBake is free to select any Mar 29 19:23:02 cedric__: Just ignore it Mar 29 19:23:10 ok Mar 29 19:23:45 * zecke takes the knife out of back and throws it onto the pale of knifes Mar 29 19:24:21 zecke: btw, do you think having to set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hostap-conf = "hostap-conf" is a bug? :) Mar 29 19:24:40 RP: it depends Mar 29 19:24:41 zecke: It usually builds hostap-modules to satisfy hostap-conf Mar 29 19:24:56 RP: what is hostap-conf setting as PROVIDERS? Mar 29 19:25:31 zecke: PROVIDES defaults to ${PN} doesn't it? Mar 29 19:26:37 RP: yes, but it can be changed :) Mar 29 19:27:18 zecke: Its unchanged Mar 29 19:27:19 RP: hmm that file looks clean :} Mar 29 19:27:37 someone start the bitbake shell please and peek into it Mar 29 19:27:54 is it at least complaining about multiple providers? Mar 29 19:27:59 zecke: There is nothing in the code that gives ${PN} an advantage as a preferred provider Mar 29 19:28:07 zecke: yes Mar 29 19:29:03 zecke: ERROR: /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.42.bb depends on itself (eventually) Mar 29 19:29:19 ERROR: upwards chain is: e-image (e-image) -> ipkg-native (ipkg-native) -> pkgconfig-native (pkgconfig-native) -> autoconf-native (autoconf-native) -> quilt-native (quilt-native) Mar 29 19:29:34 RP: have u install something to converse for tomoro? Mar 29 19:30:20 cedric__: I've not had a chance I'm afraid :-( Mar 29 19:31:51 cedric__: I wasn't expecting to be around tonight... Mar 29 19:32:11 ah ok Mar 29 19:32:26 cedric__: Is there anything I can install on LInux? Mar 29 19:33:19 evil skype, it works for on FC4. have u got a head set? Mar 29 19:34:17 s/for/for me Mar 29 19:34:17 skype :-/ Mar 29 19:34:29 I have a headset... Mar 29 19:35:00 then u go, install and here u go... Mar 29 19:37:23 koen: hmm that part worked for me Mar 29 19:39:28 koen: use the shell please Mar 29 19:39:58 zecke, koen: There is some subtle problem with the RDEPENDS causing a loop on quilt :-/ Mar 29 19:41:23 koen: use -ddd -vvv or whatever :) Mar 29 19:42:41 ah and I have broken fetcher :) Mar 29 19:49:33 Good night everyone. Before I crash to bed can someone tell me how to control 'genext2fs'. on local.conf there is IMAGE_FSTYPE, when includes "ext2" it builds an ext2 image, but I'm having a problem since the rootfs dir doesn't fit into the specified (65535 blocks) ext2 Mar 29 19:49:57 This occurs when I try to build gpe-image for x86 without stripping the binaries Mar 29 19:50:57 I had a slight migrane seisure whine I was trying to grep my way through .bb files so I might have missed something :) Mar 29 19:51:40 whine = while Mar 29 19:51:41 :) Mar 29 19:52:25 Cockroach-: I suspect there is something in bitbake.conf that controls the imagesize Mar 29 19:52:35 Try setting IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 in a configuration file Mar 29 19:52:52 The default is IMAGE_ROOTFS_SIZE_ext2 = "65536" Mar 29 19:54:22 I'll do that, thanks Mar 29 19:56:10 RP:the backlight (or frontlight) is better in console, is anything change in the kernel? Mar 29 19:56:29 cedric__: I think Pavel did change something, yes Mar 29 19:57:31 cedric__: /join #poodle Mar 29 19:58:44 RP: so I need to register... I can see yr msg Mar 29 19:59:01 cedric__: or join that other channel... Mar 29 20:02:30 zecke: that error was using bbshell Mar 29 20:03:26 reenoo: I didn't manage to reply yet :} Mar 29 20:03:43 evening Mar 29 20:03:48 hey zecke Mar 29 20:04:09 zecke: no worries. haven't been able to read mail myself for about a week now... Mar 29 20:04:11 reenoo: the main thing. I don't think right or wrong changed at all :) Mar 29 20:04:32 reenoo: just the communication we need - increased Mar 29 20:04:39 zecke: yah. could be. Mar 29 20:04:43 some days, git just drags me to the edge of insanity and leaves me there Mar 29 20:04:46 reenoo: were you responsible for disabling my hh.org account (not proj_familiar, the complete account)? Mar 29 20:05:26 CosmicPenguin: that was the plot Mar 29 20:06:55 koen: umm. no? Mar 29 20:07:21 koen: I've been entirely offline since last thursday (wednesday?) Mar 29 20:07:35 reenoo: ok, so it's just france being an ass Mar 29 20:11:47 stupid #$(#$* stable tree Mar 29 20:18:47 koen: update again Mar 29 20:19:00 now even fetching source is possible Mar 29 20:20:16 hmm I should look at the text :} Mar 29 20:21:06 Grrr. How can I debug which variables get overriden by what config file? Mar 29 20:21:57 likewise: hmm, could you give some more background on the reasoning? Mar 29 20:24:31 zecke: I am trying to follow how bitbake variables get overriden while bitbake parses its config files, so that I know beforehand what config file causes the final variable settings. Mar 29 20:25:04 likewise: no easy tracing is possible Mar 29 20:25:13 likewise: you can look in data_smart.py:setVar Mar 29 20:25:18 likewise: and data.py:update_data Mar 29 20:25:33 zecke: and add tracing there? Mar 29 20:25:34 zecke: same problem with 421 Mar 29 20:25:55 koen: I tried to fix the fetching, but it is still broken Mar 29 20:26:00 koen: please run with -vvv Mar 29 20:29:55 rwhitby: hey, stay away from bitbake trunk Mar 29 20:30:22 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/629592 Mar 29 20:30:24 pardon? Mar 29 20:30:36 svn trunk is broken Mar 29 20:30:45 * koen think something got lost in translation Mar 29 20:30:53 ah, ok. thanks for the warning. Mar 29 20:31:17 koen: 'e-image is unsupported, it is not standard compliant, it is full of bögs' Mar 29 20:31:27 zecke: :) Mar 29 20:31:31 just kidding Mar 29 20:31:43 koen: speak that in a french style :) Mar 29 20:32:21 heh Mar 29 20:32:26 I just had a great idea Mar 29 20:33:28 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/629600 Mar 29 20:33:47 hehe Mar 29 20:34:38 http://oe.pastebin.com/629604 Mar 29 20:35:01 :) Mar 29 20:35:17 I can't write the 'e' with the two dots Mar 29 20:35:42 apple-u e Mar 29 20:36:04 http://oe.pastebin.com/629608 Mar 29 20:36:23 koen: was that a "real" error report..... Mar 29 20:36:33 JustinP: it is a bug of bitbake Mar 29 20:36:44 zecke: ok Mar 29 20:37:06 koen: a good test for unicode support in browsers Mar 29 20:37:15 yeah Mar 29 20:37:28 my stupid irsii still refuses to do utf8 Mar 29 20:37:35 * koen should try colloquy again Mar 29 20:48:27 koen: I should find a good Virtual Desktop and Terminal solution first Mar 29 20:48:54 I think if we make bitbake a bit faster and fix the 'last' RDEPENDS bug we have the best release ever Mar 29 20:53:21 atd.c:22:26: gpe/errorbox.h: No such file or directory when building MACHINE=ixp4xx DISTRO=slugos.conf Mar 29 20:53:55 likewise: sounds more like a missing DEPENDENCIES on something like libgpewidgets... Mar 29 20:54:14 zecke: checking Mar 29 20:56:45 I find it weird that atd needs a GPE widget... Mar 29 20:57:45 good evening Mar 29 20:58:09 mickeyl: hey Mar 29 20:59:01 zecke: "libschedule" is missing DEPENDENCY on "libgpewidget". With this fixed, it builds fine now. Mar 29 20:59:13 hi mickeyl Mar 29 20:59:16 any boost experts around? Mar 29 20:59:30 likewise: as I'm not a GPE guy, you might file a bug report for that Mar 29 21:14:58 http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/18491.html Mar 29 21:14:59 lol Mar 29 21:18:02 uh oh Mar 29 21:18:18 maybe kergoth can help. i guess he had the ts already working fine in 2.5.something Mar 29 21:18:38 hmm i wonder why he isn't using module_raw collie Mar 29 21:19:49 | configure: error: "MySQL needs a off_t type." Mar 29 21:19:53 * mickeyl stabs mysql Mar 29 21:20:15 module_raw collie is for the old style ts interface. if your'e talking about 2.6, its probably using the input layer there, not the old sharp ts character device Mar 29 21:20:38 ah right. but you had it working with tslib on 2.5 didn't you? Mar 29 21:21:11 i remember using it, yeah Mar 29 21:21:21 practically another lifetime ago, it seems like Mar 29 21:21:23 hehe Mar 29 21:21:27 heh, true Mar 29 21:21:33 good ole digi times Mar 29 21:21:55 yeap. when i started at digi i didnt even know C Mar 29 21:22:59 mickeyl: well it is working fine Mar 29 21:23:10 mickeyl: I just wonder about his cooperation :) Mar 29 21:23:27 * kergoth boggles Mar 29 21:23:30 i cant go to that livejournal Mar 29 21:23:31 Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Adult/Mature Content;Newsgroups" Mar 29 21:23:35 gotta lvoe proxies Mar 29 21:23:58 well that is a violation of the proxy pattern :} Mar 29 21:24:00 zecke: yeah, well i guess he is in contact with marcin and richard, but he doesn't look like a team player Mar 29 21:24:16 hehe, chipx86's blog gets categorized as 'porn' Mar 29 21:24:30 heh Mar 29 21:24:30 mickeyl: did you try the new update_data implementation yet? Mar 29 21:24:51 koen: well he showed pictures of his little sister :} Mar 29 21:25:13 zecke: time bitbake -p foo Mar 29 21:25:18 kergoth: well he showed pictures of his little sister :} Mar 29 21:25:24 hehe Mar 29 21:25:24 kergoth: one might have seen some ankles Mar 29 21:25:34 nah, i think it found references to libsexy Mar 29 21:25:37 oh noes, the word sexy! Mar 29 21:25:43 hehe Mar 29 21:26:06 yeah GNOME is about to be blacklisted soon as well :} Mar 29 21:28:08 koen: do you have some funky ASSUME_PROVIDED line? Mar 29 21:34:02 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf1a86288... 10/packages/glibc/ (3 files in 2 dirs): glibc: add binary locale support (from .dev). re-enable arm-no-hwcap.patch for glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627 Mar 29 21:38:36 Man, what did we ever do before multimachine? Mar 29 21:38:50 suffer Mar 29 21:39:06 no shit Mar 29 21:40:58 and here are the results of the bitbake bleeding edge jury Mar 29 21:41:04 http://pastebin.com/629736 Mar 29 21:41:37 please don't upgrade just yet, bbmaster zecke is still ironing out bugs Mar 29 21:42:57 all: slugos.conf tells me NOT to use it directly, so I use DISTRO="slugos-bag" instead (big endian, arm glibc). However, as no slugos-bag-packages.conf exists, BBFILES is not set accordingly... My bad? Mar 29 21:44:02 mickeyl: test r329 as well Mar 29 21:44:22 329? sounds like a pretty old one Mar 29 21:44:28 * mickeyl downgrades Mar 29 21:44:39 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra32f7088... 10/classes/package.bbclass: package.bbclass: add a new parameter for do_split_packages() from .dev. This is required for the last commit to work. Mar 29 21:45:49 huh? slugos-packages.conf is not included from any of the slugos*.conf DISTROs? Mar 29 21:47:03 likewise: not even indirectly? Mar 29 21:47:33 any idea about the size of off_t on arm? Mar 29 21:48:11 mickeyl: don't we have it in sites yet? Mar 29 21:48:16 no Mar 29 21:48:30 i just added it to get mysql compile w/ eabi Mar 29 21:48:37 but I have no idea whether 4 is right or not Mar 29 21:48:38 mickeyl: pb_ would know out of the HEAD Mar 29 21:48:38 heh Mar 29 21:48:42 pb_ ? Mar 29 21:48:49 mickeyl: unsigned long long is my guess Mar 29 21:48:56 sounds like 8 then Mar 29 21:48:58 mickeyl: if compiled with -DLARGEFILES or so Mar 29 21:49:11 zecke: seemingly not, but I have a hard time tracing when a file is included... Mar 29 21:49:36 likewise: bb/parse/__init__.py Mar 29 21:49:42 likewise: and look at the handle method Mar 29 21:50:45 zecke: slugos-bag.conf includes slugos.conf, which in turn includes freeze.conf, which sets BBFILES to ${DISTRO}-packages.conf. The problem is, DISTRO=slugos-bag, and slugos-bag-packages.conf does not exist. Mar 29 21:51:04 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rcfb95df1... 10/conf/distro/familiar.conf: Mar 29 21:51:04 familiar.conf: sync with .dev. disable ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION if you have trouble with qemu-native. Mar 29 21:51:04 - inclusion of multimachine.inc commented out. uncomment it if you want to do release builds. Mar 29 21:51:18 zecke: (And I am not allowed to use slugos.conf as my DISTRO, according to its header) Mar 29 21:54:45 zecke: I am not very familiar with Python, I see the method implementation, do you suggest me to put a trace there? Mar 29 21:54:57 likewise: 'print fn' Mar 29 21:55:01 or such Mar 29 21:55:33 thanks Mar 29 21:56:45 zecke: thanks. My assumption is correct: it tries for "slugos-bag-packages.conf" then Mar 29 21:57:00 zecke: "conf/distro/slugos-bag-bbfiles.conf" which both are non-existant Mar 29 21:57:42 likewise: we should use 'require' instead of 'include' Mar 29 21:58:25 zecke: require is stronger and fails if non-existant? Mar 29 22:01:08 likewise: right Mar 29 22:02:16 mickeyl: and do you think it faster? Mar 29 22:02:21 it is even... Mar 29 22:03:23 422 is 40% faster on non-cached stuff than 421 Mar 29 22:03:31 quite an achievement Mar 29 22:04:01 mickeyl: well compare that to 329 Mar 29 22:04:08 on it Mar 29 22:05:15 mickeyl: and well, glibc packaging is faster as well (subjective) Mar 29 22:05:31 * mickeyl waits for that mysql compile job to end Mar 29 22:05:55 looks like there are some pthread_kill problems with eabi or the new userland headers Mar 29 22:10:01 *waiting* before I'm going to bed Mar 29 22:10:18 compile job has ended. downgrading to 329 atm. Mar 29 22:10:32 hail zecke Mar 29 22:10:34 hail mickeyl Mar 29 22:10:55 hi pb_ Mar 29 22:11:55 parsing.... Mar 29 22:12:05 jeeze is that version SLOW Mar 29 22:12:19 zecke: finally I have a new roof on my car Mar 29 22:12:25 congrats. roofs are nice things Mar 29 22:14:16 50% ... Mar 29 22:17:32 hmm oh Mar 29 22:17:44 329 is about 10 seconds faster than 421 Mar 29 22:17:49 uncached, that is Mar 29 22:17:54 running the cached run now Mar 29 22:18:37 mickeyl: heh? Mar 29 22:19:10 http://pastebin.com/629829 Mar 29 22:19:12 here are the results Mar 29 22:19:30 just one run in all cases, so it might have a bit of Varianz Mar 29 22:19:33 would need to do more runs Mar 29 22:20:13 mickeyl: I don't think RDEPENDS handling has done that much... Mar 29 22:20:56 mickeyl: yah, important for keeping out felines and foul weather Mar 29 22:21:31 mickeyl: well, user time of r421 is 10 seconds faster than r329 Mar 29 22:21:38 mickeyl: so it sounds like IO to me Mar 29 22:21:42 *nod* Mar 29 22:22:05 any idea what the errors come from in 422? Mar 29 22:22:06 mickeyl: hmm, my python has been killed (after apache2) Mar 29 22:22:12 mickeyl: pickling Mar 29 22:22:18 ah, right Mar 29 22:22:24 mickeyl: change bin/bitbake to throw the full exceptions please Mar 29 22:22:25 you already said in #opie.de Mar 29 22:22:35 where,how Mar 29 22:22:45 didn't look at that thing for quite some time Mar 29 22:22:53 make -j20 on gcc without icecream Mar 29 22:26:37 zecke: bitbake seems very IO bound here to me as well... Mar 29 22:27:18 zecke: I wonder what happens if I don't write out the cache... Mar 29 22:27:51 bitbake zaurusd Mar 29 22:27:51 Segmentation fault Mar 29 22:28:05 Hmm :) Mar 29 22:28:18 eeek, what are you doing to poor bitbake Mar 29 22:28:30 heh Mar 29 22:28:40 hmm Mar 29 22:28:43 python upgrade time Mar 29 22:28:48 mickeyl: I think I broke psyco rather than bitbake Mar 29 22:28:49 2.4.3 just released Mar 29 22:28:56 RP: ah right Mar 29 22:29:22 RP: I had a bitbake update as well - it went smooth Mar 29 22:30:06 zecke: here we are Mar 29 22:30:07 http://pastebin.com/629848 Mar 29 22:30:45 ok, bed time Mar 29 22:30:47 g'night folks Mar 29 22:30:53 *cry* Mar 29 22:30:56 wait a second :) Mar 29 22:31:00 'night mickeyl Mar 29 22:31:02 sooo tired Mar 29 22:31:16 mickeyl: ah, that doesn't count Mar 29 22:31:19 heh Mar 29 22:31:21 why ? Mar 29 22:31:33 mickeyl: I think dict is a Set Mar 29 22:31:42 oh Mar 29 22:31:47 mickeyl: if dict is a set, I find the dump/load API not intuitive Mar 29 22:32:00 hmm dict sounds like a dict though Mar 29 22:32:10 mickeyl: I tried dumping a dict, then a set, and another set Mar 29 22:32:10 'night mickeyl Mar 29 22:32:24 zecke: i see. nothing unrepairable :) Mar 29 22:32:26 mickeyl: then I'm loading to - what I think is - self.dict Mar 29 22:32:31 good job Mar 29 22:32:35 mickeyl: and then two sets Mar 29 22:32:53 mickeyl: night night Mar 29 22:32:58 reenoo: mornng Mar 29 22:33:09 hey pb_ Mar 29 22:33:09 mickey|zzZZzz: cya Mar 29 22:33:20 mickey|zzZZzz: feel free to fix it - as sort of recreation Mar 29 22:33:28 mickey|zzZZzz: I have two deadlines on the 31st Mar 29 22:35:17 two? crumbs. is that what they call Extreme University? Mar 29 22:40:11 pb_: well, one is for a seminar and one for an excercise Mar 29 22:40:26 pb_: 31st aligns perfectly for them... Mar 29 22:46:40 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rba4fd3cb... 10/packages/alsa/alsa-utils_1.0.8.bb: alsa-utils_1.0.8.bb: take from dev and removed unrequired RDEPENDS ${ALSA_PACKAGES} as that was not specified anywhere and caused build to fail. Mar 29 22:47:38 zecke: ah, how unfortunate Mar 29 22:48:36 pb_: one will suffer, I don't know which one Mar 29 22:49:01 zecke: let's hope that you don't personally suffer Mar 29 22:49:36 hmm, the 31st is the end of the winter semester here Mar 29 22:51:26 reenoo: that could be the case as well Mar 29 22:51:40 reenoo: lectures are starting the ~16th of april (just a guess Mar 29 22:52:01 yah, same here Mar 29 22:52:51 you probably have to do your "pruefungsleistungen" (course work?) before the end of the semester - thus the deadline Mar 29 22:53:57 reenoo: yeah well, I have the "Nachteilsausgleich" which forces me to shift things around Mar 29 22:54:15 * zecke is lucky to not study to get a bachelor degree Mar 29 22:56:02 okay good nite Mar 30 00:12:32 how do i create a changeset in monotone ala bitkeeper Mar 30 01:19:13 monotone 0.26pre3 just released, btw -- http://venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone-0.26pre3.tar.gz Mar 30 01:24:49 (for testing, since all that's left for 0.26 now is basically more testing) Mar 30 01:24:49 (no cherrypick command yet, sorry, maybe that will sneak in before the release, maybe not) Mar 30 02:09:20 * france is back (gone 13:44:17) Mar 30 02:39:37 koen: When you quit familiar, your account was removed from the project. With the improvements to the admin system it now disables accounts that are not part of any project. It means the improvements to the admin systema are working. Not an evil plot to get you. Had you just sent an e-mail inquiring about your account, it could have been easily corrected. Mar 30 03:06:41 how do i sent my monotone changeset in? Mar 30 03:23:02 hrm the interactive bitbake shell doesn't have a command to show depend trees Mar 30 03:23:04 or dry runs Mar 30 03:28:56 why does python require tcl tk Mar 30 03:38:44 i need to stop working on this stuff when everyone's asleep Mar 30 03:39:01 I know what you mean Mar 30 03:46:26 i hate how i can't ls -lrt to list most recently edited files Mar 30 04:31:23 is sourceforge cvs down again? Mar 30 04:32:54 probably Mar 30 04:33:11 wonderful Mar 30 04:59:50 * france is away: Away Mar 30 06:05:11 so anyone played with modular xorg? Mar 30 06:11:24 it builds by default from .dev now right? Mar 30 06:13:52 I believe so Mar 30 06:13:55 seems to work Mar 30 06:14:44 it's on my Akita then I guess, but there was some issues that I think are unrelated to the xserver Mar 30 06:15:12 I *was* building a new gpe-image but sf.net's cvs server is being a PITA so that's on hold for a bit Mar 30 06:27:29 yea Mar 30 06:28:07 its strangely setup, would be nice to get directories like x11-proto, x11-util x11-app etc so it corresponds more clearly to the new modular structure Mar 30 06:28:18 and leave the old 6.x stuff in current xlibs xproto dir Mar 30 06:28:45 i don't know who to ask about that though, maintainer isn't set in any of the proto files Mar 30 06:29:29 hi Mar 30 06:29:40 TheMasterMind1: Ph5 is xorg hacker Mar 30 06:29:51 is he usually in here? Mar 30 06:29:55 ibot seen ph5 Mar 30 06:29:57 ~seen ph5 Mar 30 06:30:00 ph5 was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 6d 7h 58m 51s ago, saying: 'RP: At the same time as := expands (during parsing)'. Mar 30 06:30:29 ok i'll try to track him down then Mar 30 06:30:48 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r3c093c7b... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: gomunicator: add gomunicator from dev to 083. Mar 30 06:30:52 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re083a635... 10/conf/machine/h6300.conf: iPAQ h6300 conf: Fix the h6300 configuration. Mar 30 06:31:18 TheMasterMind1: speaking about changesets->patches.. you can do 'monotone diff dir dir dir' or 'monotone log -rREVSION --diffs' Mar 30 06:32:50 ok. so how do i find out what revision was once i commited Mar 30 06:32:54 monotone status? Mar 30 06:34:47 "mt log --last 1 --diffs" then if you commied Mar 30 06:35:21 hmm. looks like OZ/OE team will get poodle from users soon.. but - who will work on it? Mar 30 06:37:13 hrw: http://www.themastermind1.net/oe-03-30-2006-ipkg+qemu+vmware+grub.changeset Mar 30 06:40:45 its for .dev - right? Mar 30 06:40:58 yep Mar 30 06:44:32 I would split it into few parts: 1. vwmave machine support 2. grub 3. qemu* 4. ipkg Mar 30 06:45:25 ok, makes sense. Mar 30 06:45:40 so i want to un-commit on my end and then commit in parts? Mar 30 06:45:41 1,2 can get into OE as they are, 3 probably too - but 4th need explanations why it is needed Mar 30 06:46:21 or save diff, split it into parts and then submit into OE bugzilla as separate wishlist/enhancment bugs Mar 30 06:46:41 ok Mar 30 06:49:14 the ipkg patch prevents it from creating /usr/lib/ipkg on your harddrive and restricts it to the offline root directory specified with -o. 99.159 has the bug fixed but the patch introduced another bug which makes it unusable for creating a rootfs - i submitted that issue as a bugreport for ipkg Mar 30 06:51:09 ah - then add info about it when will report patch Mar 30 06:55:38 TheMasterMind1: http://pastebin.com/630346 - do you have any suggestions? Mar 30 06:57:28 plop Mar 30 06:58:57 hrm, nope. who made the original request for the hardware? Mar 30 06:59:18 TheMasterMind1: users Mar 30 07:00:09 ok, so no devs. maybe put it in the topic here / #oz and see if someone's interested? Mar 30 07:00:38 the 5600 is pretty old, i thought we had good support for it already Mar 30 07:00:49 that can be doen too but I want to post that pastebin for oz-devel and oe ML Mar 30 07:00:57 TheMasterMind1: noone in OZ team have such machine Mar 30 07:01:11 TheMasterMind1: we build it because we can Mar 30 07:01:31 but now I have to go to work - cu in 30 minutes Mar 30 07:32:07 like I said - 30 minutes ;) Mar 30 07:32:22 nah, my time stamps say 31 :P Mar 30 07:32:44 30 09:08 < hrw> but now I have to go to work - cu in 30 minutes Mar 30 07:32:44 30 09:38 < hrw|work> like I said - 30 minutes ;) Mar 30 07:32:47 mine say 30 Mar 30 07:34:07 heh Mar 30 07:34:49 maybe my clock is just faster Mar 30 07:35:24 ;) Mar 30 07:35:26 zecke: good morning Mar 30 07:38:07 hey Mar 30 07:39:09 the world awakens Mar 30 07:42:11 TheMasterMind1: the world is at work Mar 30 07:43:55 hmm I need to go home again, I forgot the tool to reset the device :} Mar 30 07:44:16 doh Mar 30 07:44:57 pb_: well, and somehow fuel injection in my car is misbehaving... Mar 30 07:46:02 that is unfortunate Mar 30 07:46:16 pb_: it decides to inject fuel at random... Mar 30 07:46:32 heh Mar 30 07:46:38 quite funny if you drive 50 km/h and then the car starts shaking... Mar 30 07:47:26 yeah, that is no good Mar 30 07:47:36 I guess you will have to reverse engineer the software in the injector system Mar 30 07:47:49 pb_: no kidding :) Mar 30 07:47:52 maybe you need to flash a new image to the ECU? Mar 30 07:47:57 or just replace it with Opie-Injector Mar 30 07:48:01 pb_: I have thought of upgrading the firmware :} Mar 30 07:49:07 zecke: does your car have a jtag port? Mar 30 07:49:13 it would be unfortunate to make it into a brick Mar 30 07:49:30 pb_: well, I could buy a horse or two Mar 30 07:49:36 pb_: and put it in front of that brick Mar 30 07:49:39 good thinking Mar 30 07:50:01 ;)) Mar 30 07:50:36 hmm... I have such a good parking position I don't want to lose it Mar 30 07:50:45 I might wait for the battery to... Mar 30 07:51:12 ;)) Mar 30 07:51:22 heh Mar 30 07:51:40 hm, nearly 9am, I should go to work Mar 30 07:51:45 bbl Mar 30 07:51:53 cya Mar 30 07:55:00 FWIW, there's also now a linux x86 mtn 0.26pre3 binary posted... http://venge.net/monotone/downloads/mtn-0.26pre3-linux-x86.bz2 Mar 30 07:55:10 (requires libstdc++6 be around) Mar 30 07:55:35 njs`: hey, do you plan to release a changelog for pre2 as well? :) Mar 30 07:55:52 zecke|stupid: hmm? Mar 30 07:55:59 zecke|stupid: not sure what you mean :-) Mar 30 07:56:37 njs`: ignore me, I'm stupid :) Mar 30 07:56:37 morning Mar 30 07:56:51 njs`: I could have sworn NEWS.pre did not carry notes for pre2 :} Mar 30 07:56:58 ah :-) scroll down! :-) Mar 30 07:57:12 xorg is a pain, i have to add a bazillion bb files Mar 30 07:59:03 njs`: I will give it a try :) (pre3) Mar 30 07:59:10 cool, thanks! Mar 30 08:07:02 *damn* Mar 30 08:07:26 ~monday Mar 30 08:07:28 it has been said that monday is when everything breaks for no apparent reason, creating so many problems that it takes you until friday to get back to normal. at which point one more thing breaks that takes you the whole weekend to fix Mar 30 08:12:49 now the car is not even starting anymore Mar 30 08:13:34 that's less than optimal Mar 30 08:14:12 johnX: I can't reset the phone because I need to get home, I can't get home because my car is broken Mar 30 08:14:16 what a 'first' workday Mar 30 08:14:33 zecke|stupid: first? Mar 30 08:14:43 hrw|work: after a short break Mar 30 08:14:59 hrw|work: all for my 'research' on DVB-H :} Mar 30 08:17:04 and sf's cvs server continues to be stupid while the current image from .dev flashed on my akita acts less than stable Mar 30 08:17:09 it's a great day for everyone Mar 30 08:20:20 bah...I give up. I might as well sleep. Maybe SF's cvs will be less stupid when I wake up Mar 30 08:20:29 'night all Mar 30 08:20:32 johnX: cya Mar 30 08:20:54 zecke|stupid: good luck with your car Mar 30 08:21:09 njs`: mt-stdint.h why not mnt-stdint.h? Mar 30 08:22:01 zecke|stupid: dunno, maybe someone will get annoyed enough to change it. that file's been around for yonks, and I was focusing on renaming the things that mattered :-) Mar 30 08:25:30 TheMasterMind1: isn't xorg7 in OE already? Mar 30 08:25:52 koen: xserver-kdrive is, xserver-xorg is not Mar 30 08:26:12 xserver-xorg has additional dependencies beyond the ones added for kdrive Mar 30 08:26:49 TheMasterMind1: beyond the bazillion ones in packages/xlibs? Mar 30 08:27:01 yep, hard to believe eh Mar 30 08:27:13 most of the libs and protos are there, fonts data and apps are missing Mar 30 08:33:25 whats the way to deal with source code dependencies? Mar 30 08:33:50 xorg depends on mesa, but also needs the path to the mesa source directory passed as a ./configure argument Mar 30 08:34:22 after updating my db and brach, bitbake myapp fails with ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output. I've also changed DISTRO from familiar, to familiar-unstable... Mar 30 08:34:27 any ideas? Mar 30 08:34:33 TheMasterMind1: interesting question Mar 30 08:35:33 ~lart my build machine for being missing Mar 30 08:35:34 * ibot changes my build machine's permissions to 0777 and tells the world for being missing Mar 30 08:37:21 mndctrl: strange i compiled qemu just fine Mar 30 08:38:57 hmmm... Mar 30 08:39:10 strange indeed... still failing :/ Mar 30 08:39:17 if you have gcc4 as host then it will fail Mar 30 08:39:26 if you do not have libsdl-dev on host it will fail Mar 30 08:39:48 mndctrl: add EXTRA_OECONF = "--disable-sdl" to your qemu.bb file Mar 30 08:42:43 ok, I'll give it a try, tnx guys ;) Mar 30 08:50:39 http://lists.debian.org/debian-arm/2006/03/msg00058.html Mar 30 08:55:13 njs`: I'm rosterifying OE.db now Mar 30 08:55:33 zecke: cool Mar 30 08:56:08 psst, OE.mtn Mar 30 08:56:19 oh, right Mar 30 08:56:25 you mean, OE.mtn! Mar 30 08:56:32 mtn --db OE.db db rosterify Mar 30 08:56:34 * njs` coughs and continues to retrain fingers Mar 30 08:56:36 works here :) Mar 30 08:56:59 gosh svk is not even able to get the full log of the KDE svn repository Mar 30 09:30:51 ooh Mar 30 09:30:53 fast bitbake Mar 30 09:32:05 NAiL: but broken :) Mar 30 09:33:30 'tis? Mar 30 09:33:37 Haven't gotten to that part yet Mar 30 09:34:56 NAiL: caching is broken Mar 30 09:35:55 but a one-shot build should be ok then? :) Mar 30 09:36:01 yes Mar 30 09:37:29 intel assembly is ugly Mar 30 09:38:30 zecke: you mean x86? Mar 30 09:38:48 mithro: *right* Mar 30 09:38:53 mithro: even in AT&T style Mar 30 09:49:38 x86.. AX, BX, CX, DX instead of normal r0-rX (or d0-dX + a0-aX).. Mar 30 09:53:16 hrw|work: + stack pointer madness+ Mar 30 09:54:02 zecke: and that need for remembering which register is for what... Mar 30 09:54:41 but I never programmed x86 - semester of z80 asm was enough for me to not want to go into x86 asm.. Mar 30 09:54:58 especially after m68k or pic16 asm Mar 30 09:57:20 hrw|work: I had one term were I wrote lousy x86 assembly routines Mar 30 09:57:57 monotone does notlike my home machine ;( Mar 30 09:58:03 monotone: 996,4 k | 168,1 k | 842 | 198 | 39 Mar 30 09:58:06 stuck Mar 30 09:58:14 oh :( Mar 30 09:58:34 yesterday it was stuck at 35 Mar 30 09:58:56 I give 1h for it and then will fetch snapshot Mar 30 09:59:12 zecke: what do you think of waiting for monotone 0.27 before doing work on SCM migrating (be it to git,hg or monotone)? Mar 30 09:59:46 pic16 ASM isn't to bad neither if m68k Mar 30 10:00:20 mithro: exactly - z80|x86 are nightmare after them Mar 30 10:00:27 I also liked 6502 asm Mar 30 10:02:00 * XorA used to like z80 Mar 30 10:02:13 arm isn't to bad Mar 30 10:02:48 in fact my nick should give away my z80 roots :-) Mar 30 10:03:41 RISC is generally nice Mar 30 10:03:58 XorA: did you hook up your Harry Potter set to a mindstorms unit already? Mar 30 10:04:15 koen: I dont own a mindstorms :-( Mar 30 10:04:21 * koen neither :( Mar 30 10:04:43 I'm trying to decide buy a second hand mindstorm and reflash it of wait for the nxt Mar 30 10:04:56 koen: all my lego is still in boxes after moving, I just havent had time to rebuild it all Mar 30 10:05:10 mine is still at my parents Mar 30 10:05:26 Ive got 3 generations of railway to build Mar 30 10:05:34 I still need to get rid of arcane computer junk to make room Mar 30 10:06:04 the uni bought >250 mindstorm units..... Mar 30 10:06:38 koen: I only got my spectrums left after I got fedup of lugging the BBC Master, Electrons, amiga and other junk around Mar 30 10:07:32 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r7bb71499... 10/packages/zd1211/ (14 files in 4 dirs): zd1211: Update to -r67, remove old cruft Mar 30 10:08:50 silly question, what exactly is RDEPEND Mar 30 10:08:59 Runtime DEPENDS Mar 30 10:09:09 TheMasterMind1: dependencies to get package running on target Mar 30 10:09:12 something the sharedlib magic doesn't pick up Mar 30 10:09:55 k Mar 30 10:11:57 28 files changed, 1034 insertions(+) Mar 30 10:12:03 small hostap change ;P Mar 30 10:16:03 i have a package listed as a DEPEND, it should compile before the package which defines it as a DEPEND correct? Mar 30 10:16:51 TheMasterMind1: yes Mar 30 10:17:11 very strange Mar 30 10:17:34 s there a way to get a dependency tree other than with -n Mar 30 10:26:12 Hi all Mar 30 10:26:19 hey Dirk Mar 30 10:26:30 Hey koen Mar 30 10:27:58 hi dirk Mar 30 10:28:20 man Mar 30 10:28:32 hey Marcin Mar 30 10:28:35 do13: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=18471 should interest you Mar 30 10:28:43 it seems that anywhere you can post a comment on the oz website people will post comments Mar 30 10:29:18 hrw|work: thx. I got emails from Radiance Mar 30 10:29:52 koen: GPE 1.) is a known bug Mar 30 10:30:06 koen: GPE 3.) well can't this be configured? Mar 30 10:30:35 zecke: 3) matchbox bug <- mallums problem Mar 30 10:30:52 koen: what is XSETTINGS good for, if you can't change the selection color :} Mar 30 10:31:00 hrw|work: A lot of work for only 4 weeks :) Mar 30 10:31:30 hrw|work: I never tried a gpe image on tosa 2.6 Mar 30 10:31:58 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763 Mar 30 10:32:11 ah, 0xffff is Qt::KeyUnknown Mar 30 10:34:43 zecke: and? Mar 30 10:34:53 hrw|work: well broken keymap :) Mar 30 10:35:06 hrw|work: you ask the keyboard driver to change into a undefined row Mar 30 10:35:36 hrw|work: and on release the modifier is a UnknownKey (it doesn't know the key was a modifier) Mar 30 10:35:50 hrw|work: I'm waiting for a okay from ROAD to release a patch :} Mar 30 10:36:00 hrw|work: I might take the three minutes to redo it though Mar 30 10:36:19 zecke: so you have a fix for it already? Mar 30 10:37:30 hrw|work: well, they keymap is broken :) Mar 30 10:39:28 zecke: can you look at zaurus keymaps and provide patch for one of 2.4 ones (tosa preferred) and one of 2.6? Mar 30 10:39:38 zecke: then I could look at fixing others Mar 30 10:40:25 ~ewi Mar 30 10:40:27 i guess ewi is ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 Mar 30 10:40:50 meh. what step puts files into the staging area? Mar 30 10:40:59 TheMasterMind1: do_stage() Mar 30 10:41:46 hrw|work: I prefer to provide a patch soon(tm) Mar 30 10:41:59 and when its not explicitly defined it doeswhat Mar 30 10:42:31 zecke: ok Mar 30 10:42:57 hrw|work: I remember to have fixed two issues Mar 30 10:43:04 hrw|work: I will just refix them :} Mar 30 10:44:39 I will have to decide how to release it.. 3.5.4.1 = 2.6.15+/clamshells - so 3.5.4.1 also as update for rest (hostap 0.4.7, fixed keymap problem in qt/e) or 3.5.4.2 for this or just upgrades Mar 30 10:45:07 hrw|work: I've never seen problems with the keymap under 2.6 Mar 30 10:46:08 do13: but tosa/2.6 is future Mar 30 10:46:10 do13: well, you might have not pressed too much modifiers :) Mar 30 10:46:54 hrw|work: agreed Mar 30 10:47:31 Hi Liam Mar 30 10:47:33 hi Liam Mar 30 10:47:46 hey lrg Mar 30 10:47:49 lrg: hey liam Mar 30 10:48:09 hey lrg Mar 30 10:48:37 lrg: do you happen to know where the OSS ioctls are implemented in ALSA (oss emulation) Mar 30 10:50:21 wow http://www.earth.li/~noodles/hardware-e3.html Mar 30 10:50:27 that looks better than the TuxPhone Mar 30 10:51:53 indeed Mar 30 10:52:12 * koen was just looking where such a device can be bought Mar 30 10:52:57 koen: publish the link Mar 30 10:53:07 "Please Note: The E3 is designed for installation in the UK ONLY. It will not operate on overseas telephone exhanges." Mar 30 10:53:57 Grrr Mar 30 10:54:10 zecke: I suspect you need to swap two wires Mar 30 10:54:16 ~lart UK for not obeying German Telephony standards Mar 30 10:54:17 * ibot strangles UK with a 9-pole serial cable for not obeying German Telephony standards Mar 30 10:54:23 koen: yes I think it will be fairly easy Mar 30 10:54:29 zecke: which you have to do anyway for using stuff from .nl in .de Mar 30 10:55:16 koen: luckily my vla never needed wires... Mar 30 10:56:21 hey all Mar 30 10:56:26 gosh I hate icq... Mar 30 10:56:40 zecke, iirc in alsa lib Mar 30 10:56:58 lrg: you don't happen to be familiar with that code? Mar 30 10:57:12 lrg: Do you used the mask pin in another project? Mar 30 10:57:43 zecke, the oss stuff, sorry no :( Mar 30 10:58:02 do13, not yet, as the mainstone was not very noisy Mar 30 10:58:09 koen: well g++ ABI changes because it was broken and now is broken in another way Mar 30 10:58:16 koen: until some day it is right :) Mar 30 10:59:52 lrg: Hmm I set mask, cleared Bit 4 in AC97_MISC_AFE and set Bit4 in AC97_GPIO_CFG but got alwyas timeouts :( **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 30 10:59:56 2006