**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 23 09:59:56 2006 Apr 23 10:00:30 mithro: There's probably no harm in trying... Apr 23 10:00:50 RP: yeah thats my thoughts Apr 23 10:01:03 being a student must have some advantages :P Apr 23 10:02:14 being able to drink beer at 10am :) Apr 23 10:24:37 i don't drink alchol :P Apr 23 10:26:39 indeed Apr 23 10:26:41 I forgot Apr 23 10:27:26 morning all. Is it a problem to use a shared source directory between more than one development branch ? Apr 23 10:27:54 DL_DIR of WORKDIR? Apr 23 10:28:04 DL_DIR Apr 23 10:28:26 RP: what's the units of delay_on and delay_off ? Apr 23 10:28:35 cyrilRomain: no problem at all Apr 23 10:28:52 rwhitby: msecs Apr 23 10:29:01 koen: ok, thank you :) Apr 23 10:29:23 So a freq of 1 and duty of 50 should translate to 500,500 Apr 23 10:29:35 delay_on = (50 - (duty - 50)) * 1000 / 50 * freq Apr 23 10:29:35 delay_off = (50 + (duty - 50)) * 1000 / 50 * freq Apr 23 10:29:43 are those right? Apr 23 10:30:51 morning Apr 23 10:30:52 rwhitby: I get 1000,1000 Apr 23 10:31:07 rwhitby: Its a factor of two out - you need / 100 Apr 23 10:34:17 those equations are reversed for on/off too, aren't they? Apr 23 10:34:47 rwhitby: Yes :-/ Apr 23 10:36:11 delay_on = (50 + (duty - 50)) * 10 * freq Apr 23 10:36:12 delay_off = (50 - (duty - 50)) * 10 * freq Apr 23 10:38:00 you can rewrite as (duty)  10  freq and (100 - duty)  10  freq which looks much simpler. I can't remember why I didn't do that :) Apr 23 10:57:27 * koen looks at http://www.cin.ufpe.br/~ckt/gbluezconf/ Apr 23 10:58:16 RP: gbluezconf looks like poky-ware ;) Apr 23 10:59:23 koen: I know nothing about it :) Apr 23 11:07:11 Packaged contents of gbluezconf into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/gbluezconf_00.10-r0_armv5te.ipk Apr 23 11:16:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r001fcb06... 10/packages/gbluezconf/gbluezconf_00.10.bb: gbluezconf: add gbluezconf 00.10 Apr 23 11:18:56 RP: do you know some trick to make collies buzzer emmit some beep or noise by chance? Apr 23 11:23:38 CoreDump|home: Not without digging into the 2.4 kernel Apr 23 11:23:51 RP: too bad Apr 23 11:24:05 how does opie manage to do it? Apr 23 11:24:10 with 2.6 you could to nice stuff with alsa libs Apr 23 11:24:28 CoreDump|home: evil kernel hack using PCM and a fake sound dev? Apr 23 11:24:46 :\ Apr 23 11:25:10 opie just does some ioctls on a non-standard device node IIRC Apr 23 11:26:00 koen: But my CL860 does nothing. Sound is off all time. That nearly makes it a brick (no alarms any more) Apr 23 11:26:11 which breaks when someone used collies buzzer.patch in the kernel Apr 23 11:30:22 CoreDump|home: Going back to 1.3.x was a really bad idea. Now I am not able any more to get 1.4.1 working. Just waste of time and hot air ;-(( Apr 23 11:30:58 uv1: delete the bitbake stuff and do a clean checkout then Apr 23 11:33:23 Giving up for this weekend. Would be nice if someone could fix the CL860 no sound problem ... Apr 23 11:33:25 Bye Apr 23 11:51:17 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r3a73c379... 10/packages/slugos-init/files/leds: slugos-init: Updated the leds script to match the delay_on/delay_off interface for the timer trigger. Apr 23 11:51:22 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd900f23a... 10/packages/slugos-init/slugos-init_0.10.bb: slugos-init: Bumped PR Apr 23 11:51:26 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r4548a9cb... 10/packages/slugos-init/files/turnup: slugos-init: Fixed the turnup script for nas100d. Apr 23 11:51:30 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf627a813... 10/packages/busybox/busybox_1.01.bb: busybox/slugos: Bumped PR due to sysctl.conf change. Apr 23 11:56:00 does ${MACHINE}.conf get parsed before or after ${DISTRO}.conf ? Apr 23 11:57:07 to answer my own question: http://oe.pastebin.com/676695 Apr 23 11:57:15 'before' Apr 23 12:06:30 hey zecke Apr 23 12:07:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1fc6af6f... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: Apr 23 12:07:36 angstrom-2006.9: add some safeguards Apr 23 12:07:36 * select kernel 2.6 for zaurus and iPAQs (KERNEL and ZKERNEL_VERSION) Apr 23 12:07:36 * zap contents of GPE_EXTRA_INSTALL Apr 23 12:10:16 hey Apr 23 12:10:59 ~lart sf.net Apr 23 12:11:00 * ibot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, sf.net!" and lops off sf.net's head Apr 23 12:11:04 http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/xmms-embedded Apr 23 12:11:09 koen: we sure need a better way to populate different sized root's in A than we have in OZ Apr 23 12:11:41 like _16m _50m _100m etc Apr 23 12:12:06 CoreDump|home: indeed Apr 23 12:12:57 the HDD models are *begging* for a different task-bootstrap =) Apr 23 12:13:41 right now I'm trying to remove some crud from the images Apr 23 12:14:19 might just as well start over from scratch... Apr 23 12:14:59 I'd like to Apr 23 12:15:16 but that needs a task-bootstrap overhaul Apr 23 12:15:51 just don't use task-bootstrap if you don't want it Apr 23 12:16:14 right Apr 23 12:16:21 and loose all kernel modules Apr 23 12:16:48 the whole point of a task-bootstrap is to put together a bare-bone image on top of which any GUI can be installed Apr 23 12:17:02 not using something like that would be a major PITA Apr 23 12:17:19 which obviously needs openswan and mipv6 and pcmcia-cs and... and... and... Apr 23 12:17:25 koen: task-bootstrap has a defined purpose. if that doesn't suit your needs, you're free to come up with your own replacement Apr 23 12:17:39 will do Apr 23 12:17:46 reenoo: thanks for that clever remark. I am doing that for _years_ Apr 23 12:18:19 what I was trying to say is that we need a finer control for a task-bootstrap depending on the machine it is build for Apr 23 12:20:55 no, you need separate task packages. task-bootstrap's purpose is "boot the machine, get onto $network, 'ipkg install $other-task-package'" Apr 23 12:21:51 the first and second part could be separate task packages Apr 23 12:28:56 factoring out a subset of task-bootstrap into say, task-essential-to-boot, isn't exactly a new plan and would be trivial to implement Apr 23 12:30:53 task-essential-to-boot, task-networking : task-networking-{wireless,wired,serial} etc would be good Apr 23 12:31:07 yeah Apr 23 12:31:25 I described all that in a message to oe@ ages ago Apr 23 12:37:13 cya Apr 23 13:10:09 I have created a .bb file to compile some program. All goes without error but it does nothing except unpack the source. What did I miss ? Is it not supposed to launch configure script ? Apr 23 13:11:05 either SRC_URI or S is wrong Apr 23 13:11:19 (or something non-obvious, but I can't say without the .bb) Apr 23 13:14:07 S is supposed to match the source folder name once extracted ? Apr 23 13:15:31 yes Apr 23 13:15:55 by default: S = "${WORKDIR}/${P}" Apr 23 13:16:09 and P = ${PN}-${PV} Apr 23 13:21:17 package seems to be extracted there: oe/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/kakasi-2.3.4-r0/kakasi-2.3.4 so default should be fine ? Apr 23 13:21:52 it looks that way Apr 23 13:22:11 SRC_URI = "http://kakasi.namazu.org/stable/kakasi-${PV}.tar.gz" Apr 23 13:23:00 that looks ok as well Apr 23 13:23:20 could you pastebin the output of 'bitbake kakasi'? Apr 23 13:25:09 interesting: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.monotone.devel/6606 Apr 23 13:27:28 good morning Apr 23 13:27:37 hey mickeyl Apr 23 13:27:39 rwhitby: in what state is the nas100d support in OE atm.? Apr 23 13:28:01 mickeyl: I've just debootstrapped debian with it. Apr 23 13:28:13 cool Apr 23 13:28:19 * mickeyl rereads the 100d specs Apr 23 13:28:22 It's a fully supported SlugOS target. Apr 23 13:28:37 But the 100d is EOL. Apr 23 13:28:49 As is the DSM-G600RevA Apr 23 13:28:52 means I could get one cheap? :) Apr 23 13:29:11 are the IOPs big endian as well? Apr 23 13:29:12 mickeyl: if you can find one. Apr 23 13:29:24 hmm Apr 23 13:29:31 NAS 100/160GB 349.80 EUR Apr 23 13:29:33 whow! Apr 23 13:29:35 that's steep Apr 23 13:29:47 koen : bitbake kakasi output: http://iris.vbone.net/kakasi.txt Apr 23 13:30:01 mickeyl: that's not the normal price. Apr 23 13:31:51 AlexTe: did you do 'inherit autotools pkgconfig' in the .bb? Apr 23 13:32:18 rwhitby: what would be a price to go? Apr 23 13:32:59 I can't remember whether mine was USD$160 or USD$260 at Frys Apr 23 13:33:26 I think it was $160. Apr 23 13:33:32 rwhitby: right. that sounds better Apr 23 13:35:07 http://www.macrolevel.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=216 Apr 23 13:35:09 koen: looks like I was missing pkgconfig, thanks Apr 23 13:35:24 from #monotone: 15:44 < thm> well, I just wanted to tell you guys that I have a trac plugin almost working... Apr 23 13:35:50 mickeyl: no idea what that shop is, but they say around $170 Apr 23 13:37:00 rwhitby: I thought you would like that bit of news :) Apr 23 13:37:17 koen: yep. Apr 23 13:37:33 mickeyl: 62,5 EUR on http://www.ciao.fr/Iomega_NAS_100d_160GB__691947 and 549 EUR TTC on http://www.ldlc.fr/fiche/PB00026296.html 8-| Apr 23 13:39:58 mickeyl: well the first link seems to display an wrong price (I think, since it compares with not-related articles) Apr 23 13:41:23 yeah Apr 23 13:41:55 rwhitby: anyone of you guys tried streaming divx with a usbtv box? Apr 23 13:42:11 (with a slug) Apr 23 13:42:32 s/divx/mpeg2/? Apr 23 13:42:47 if so, yes, effem has been doing that for a while Apr 23 13:42:58 since usbtv boxes usually output mpeg2 Apr 23 13:43:19 as long as you don't need to transcode, it seems to work fine. Apr 23 13:43:21 well, i was thinking the other way round Apr 23 13:43:30 pc -> slug -> tv Apr 23 13:44:07 compilation went fine but in the end it tries to execute a binary it just compiled, to generate some data. Is there any known method for this ? Apr 23 13:44:08 night all Apr 23 13:44:13 g'night rwhitby Apr 23 13:44:24 'night rwhitby Apr 23 13:44:47 AlexTe: run it through qemu or add kakasi-native Apr 23 13:52:52 do you have examples ? Apr 23 14:30:30 anyone built opie in .dev lately? Apr 23 14:30:38 can't seem to get any text rendered Apr 23 14:30:58 NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r4: task do_package: started Apr 23 14:31:23 mickeyl: I'm building gpe,opie,e,xfce and bootstrap images for angstrom right now Apr 23 14:31:33 ok Apr 23 14:31:47 could be font issue Apr 23 14:31:53 i'm afraid so Apr 23 14:31:59 i can't think of any changes though Apr 23 14:32:02 hrw will know the fix :) Apr 23 14:32:11 aha downgrading to qt from 3.5.4 release doesn't make a difference Apr 23 14:32:14 so it's not my qt build Apr 23 14:32:18 * mickeyl downgrades the fonts Apr 23 14:32:27 morning Apr 23 14:32:31 hey chouimat Apr 23 14:37:10 ibot: botmail for zecke: glibc packaging does indeed look a lot faster Apr 23 14:37:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd6d71105... 10/packages/gpe-session-scripts/gpe-session-scripts_0.67.bb: gpe-session-scripts: add 0.67 Apr 23 14:45:19 downgrading fonts doesn't change anything Apr 23 14:45:25 downgrading freetype Apr 23 14:46:53 mickeyl: have you tried prelink yet? Apr 23 14:46:58 on Apr 23 14:46:59 no Apr 23 14:50:27 ... wiki updated to warn people not to use monotone 0.26 or above ... Apr 23 14:50:48 RP, mickeyl: http://oe.pastebin.com/676955 Apr 23 14:51:14 excellent Apr 23 14:51:22 * mickeyl pulling his hairs out Apr 23 14:51:27 can't get these darn fonts to display Apr 23 14:51:51 mickeyl: tried stracing? Apr 23 14:51:53 koen: Looks good to me :) Apr 23 14:53:00 RP: should I commit it? Apr 23 14:53:22 && perhaps instead of ; Apr 23 14:54:32 koen: Yes please :) Apr 23 14:55:38 .oz354x could use that as well ;) Apr 23 14:57:03 ok, using qpf fonts it works Apr 23 14:57:05 * mickeyl irritated Apr 23 14:57:12 hrw|gone: ping Apr 23 14:57:22 it's a plot against ttf fonts Apr 23 14:57:28 seems like it Apr 23 14:58:34 Evening Apr 23 14:58:38 hey Cockroach- Apr 23 14:58:50 TheMasterMind1: did you see that slide about jazelle? Apr 23 14:59:04 koen: i did not Apr 23 15:00:35 http://oe.pastebin.com/676955 and http://linuxdevices.com/files/article064/slide12-sm.jpg Apr 23 15:00:51 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r23751b4d... 10/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb: sysvinit: Add support for more than one enabled getty in inittab through setting SYSVINIT_ENABLED_GETTYS. Apr 23 15:00:55 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r947b99ed... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot_1.0.7-rc1.bb altboot_1.0.7-rc2.bb): altboot: Add 1.0.7-rc2 Apr 23 15:01:00 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r7e670473... 10/packages/sysvinit/sysvinit_2.86.bb: sysvinit: Add support for more than one enabled getty in inittab through setting SYSVINIT_ENABLED_GETTYS. Apr 23 15:01:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40758b8f... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf: Apr 23 15:01:04 zaurus-clamshell.conf: add support for adding jffs2 summaries to improve mount times Apr 23 15:01:04 * adapted from ipaq-pxa270.conf - Thanks Philipp! Apr 23 15:01:14 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r6d5aedd5... 10/packages/altboot/ (13 files in 5 dirs): (log message trimmed) Apr 23 15:01:14 altboot: Apr 23 15:01:14 - Removed multiple die() functions Apr 23 15:01:14 - Altboot no longer activates an off-flash altboot-menu when not Apr 23 15:01:15 booting from flash Apr 23 15:01:17 - Added a debug_echo function which is disabled in non-rc and Apr 23 15:01:19 non-snapshot builds Apr 23 15:01:21 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r69d638b1... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot_1.0.7-rc1.bb altboot_1.0.7-rc2.bb): altboot: Add 1.0.7-rc2 Apr 23 15:02:05 koen: cool, how is the jffs2 related though? Apr 23 15:02:18 TheMasterMind1: it isn't Apr 23 15:02:29 TheMasterMind1: but I remembered you did java stuff Apr 23 15:03:13 yep the jazelle slide looks very interesting Apr 23 15:03:42 http://tree.celinuxforum.org/CelfPubWiki/TechConference2005Docs?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=Optimizing_Linux_ARM.pdf Apr 23 15:03:44 CoreDump|home: please document variables in documentation.conf Apr 23 15:04:04 armv6 supports unaligned memory access Apr 23 15:04:05 will do Apr 23 15:04:54 thanks Apr 23 15:06:06 * koen merges Apr 23 15:07:43 How does OE handle cross-configure problems with AC_TRY_RUN, AC_TRY_LINK etc variables? Is the do_configure() method in packages used to override the "normal" way of running configure-scripts (as if compiling manually and natively)? Apr 23 15:08:15 AC_TRY_LINK shouldn't pose any problem Apr 23 15:08:29 well true Apr 23 15:08:41 we manage most stuff with config.cache files from the site/ directory Apr 23 15:09:00 othwerwise we curse and patch the configure script Apr 23 15:09:59 wow, the wikipedia ARM page is pretty nice Apr 23 15:10:20 koen: So that kind of confirms my beliefs, that each new package requires some tuning with the original configure scripts of the software Apr 23 15:10:41 about 80% of the packages require no tweaking Apr 23 15:10:48 our site files are pretty complete Apr 23 15:10:49 as opposed to Scratchbox which tries to fake everything Apr 23 15:13:17 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r55616adc... 10/conf/documentation.conf: conf: Update documentation.conf to include SYSVINIT_ENABLED_GETTYS Apr 23 15:16:25 * koen wonders Apr 23 15:16:32 mickeyl: are we allowed to gloat of http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=842 ? Apr 23 15:17:14 you are Apr 23 15:17:25 * koen gloats Apr 23 15:18:11 * koen merges again Apr 23 15:21:45 mickeyl: any ideas for some OE SoC projects? Apr 23 15:23:17 03rw 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r8b12e357... 10/packages/python/python_2.4.2.bb: python: add 'python' meta package currently depending on 'python-core' Apr 23 15:24:30 * RP smiles Apr 23 15:24:56 koen: a) variable namespaces + documentation, b) reorganizing bootstrap stuff, c) enforcing more consistence in metadata Apr 23 15:25:07 koen: Packaging for staging? Apr 23 15:25:34 That one is a lot of work though and they'd need existing experience with OE :-/ Apr 23 15:26:18 Finishing the C parser would be good. A multithreaded bitbake? Apr 23 15:27:00 hi Apr 23 15:27:04 hi hrw Apr 23 15:27:07 anyway, contact erik@hovland.org for ideas and if you want to mentor someone (~4 hours/week, $500 from google) Apr 23 15:27:08 CoreDump|home: I will push some changes Apr 23 15:27:13 hey hrw Apr 23 15:27:33 how much does nslu2 costs today? Apr 23 15:27:40 koen: for 3 months? Apr 23 15:27:44 in Poland its ~400pln Apr 23 15:27:47 ~changel 400 pln to eur Apr 23 15:27:51 ~change 400 pln to eur Apr 23 15:27:55 RP: 2 months iirc Apr 23 15:27:56 400.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 103.232 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) Apr 23 15:28:13 hrw: i have an odd problem here. can you build an opie-image in .dev when you have a chance? I no longer works with TTF fonts here Apr 23 15:28:33 koen: Whilst I could offer to mentor last year, this year I can for various reasons I'm not getting into :-( Apr 23 15:28:38 Hey, does anyone how I can debug this error? http://pastebin.com/677006 Apr 23 15:28:41 I can't Apr 23 15:28:46 mickeyl: maybe on end of week - first I want to release 3.5.4.1-rc1 Apr 23 15:28:56 right Apr 23 15:29:36 RP: any idea how we could handle missing pcmcia insert events? Apr 23 15:29:38 evanchsa: disable binary locale generation Apr 23 15:29:55 RP: if I have my wlan card in on boot, I need to manually ifup eth0 Apr 23 15:30:01 RP: if i stick it in later, it works automatically Apr 23 15:30:03 evanchsa: but looking at your pwd, it looks like you'd want slugos or ludeos instead of familiar Apr 23 15:30:37 mickeyl: probe on boot? Apr 23 15:31:05 mickeyl: on boot udev should go through /sys/ and fake events iirc Apr 23 15:31:08 isn't udev supposed to do that? Apr 23 15:31:12 right, that's what i was thinking Apr 23 15:31:21 it doesn't work here though Apr 23 15:32:06 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd7bbd119... 10/packages/wpa-supplicant/wpa-supplicant_0.4.8.bb: wpa-supplicant: only PN replace/conflict wpa-supplicant-nossl Apr 23 15:32:09 CoreDump|home: hostap-conf, wpa-supplicant pushed. I do not see newer libssl anywhere Apr 23 15:32:15 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8559cc68... 10/packages/hostap/ (files/hostap_cs.conf hostap-conf_1.0.bb): hostap-conf: some updates which I forgot to push Apr 23 15:32:22 hrw: thanks Apr 23 15:32:38 mickeyl: can you put opie-image somewhere? I will look into then Apr 23 15:33:17 koen: The pwd isn't related to anything .. the OE stuff was placed there.. I have built ludeos and slugos in the past in this build environment but now I want to build familiar for my iPAQ Apr 23 15:33:23 hrw: will do. after i installed a qpf font and changed settings to use that I saw text Apr 23 15:34:01 aaah Apr 23 15:34:15 * mickeyl has an idea Apr 23 15:34:23 hah! Apr 23 15:34:24 root@c7x0:/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/fontfactories# ls -la Apr 23 15:34:24 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 . Apr 23 15:34:24 drwxr-xr-x 13 root root 0 Jan 1 1970 .. Apr 23 15:34:55 mickeyl: As hrw mentioned, udev should fake the events. It works here - Are you using udev 084? Apr 23 15:35:10 root@c7x0:/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins# ipkg status udev Apr 23 15:35:10 Package: udev Apr 23 15:35:10 Version: 084-r7 Apr 23 15:35:19 RP: does it work with the symbol card? Apr 23 15:35:36 mickeyl: yes, perfectly... Apr 23 15:35:58 odd Apr 23 15:35:58 hrw: there is a libfreetype supposed to be in there isn't it? Apr 23 15:36:10 mickeyl: Are your card ids in the driver? Apr 23 15:36:38 RP: i think so. the card is powered ok and stuff, it just isn't ifup'ed Apr 23 15:36:54 mickeyl: opie-freetype Apr 23 15:37:10 mickeyl: Do you need an essid? I know that causes me problems... Apr 23 15:37:26 RP: yes. I receive three essids here Apr 23 15:37:34 RP: needs to run dhcp Apr 23 15:37:56 hrw: can you ipkg list opie-freetype please Apr 23 15:37:56 mickeyl: I suspect our network.sh script isn't good enough to remember the right essid Apr 23 15:38:04 RP: possible. Apr 23 15:38:18 network.sh is really just a hack :-/ Apr 23 15:38:31 It needs doing properly... Apr 23 15:38:59 isn't the essid supposed to be in /etc/network/interfaces? Apr 23 15:39:08 mickeyl: opie-freetype - 1.2.1-r0 - Freetype fontfactory plugin Apr 23 15:39:18 sorry, ipkg files even Apr 23 15:39:29 moment Apr 23 15:39:35 koen: I'm not 100% sure how its supposed to work tbh which is why I've not touched it... Apr 23 15:39:56 Package opie-freetype (1.2.1-r0) is installed on temp and has the following files: Apr 23 15:39:56 /home/hrw/devel/build/oz354x/_test/dest/opt/QtPalmtop/plugins/fontfactories/libfreetypefactory.so Apr 23 15:39:59 'ifup ${IF}' looks in /etc/network/interfaces for info Apr 23 15:40:09 which is where wifi config lives Apr 23 15:40:16 hrw: righto. thanks. opie-freetype is installed on my opie-image, but it doesn't contain any files Apr 23 15:40:17 *sigh* Apr 23 15:40:40 koen: So in theory network.sh does do enough... Apr 23 15:40:50 RP: yes Apr 23 15:41:04 RP: and our /etc/network/interfaces is compatible with debian's Apr 23 15:41:47 aah Apr 23 15:42:20 you'll need wireless_ entries Apr 23 15:42:52 hrw: ok, i got it. i changed EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST handling in that way that bb files are no longer allowed to override it. instead they need to append to it Apr 23 15:43:40 I probably should change that again in order to be consistent with any EXTRA_foo Apr 23 15:43:41 mickeyl: so .dev is a bit fscked for some qtopia stuff now? Apr 23 15:43:43 hi mickeyl Apr 23 15:43:46 hrw: yes Apr 23 15:43:52 hi pb_ Apr 23 15:44:28 hi pb_ Apr 23 15:44:38 koen: I managed to compile the kakasi-native now how do I get it to actually execute the i386 binary ? I must patch the Makefile or can it be done automagically ? Apr 23 15:44:38 hi rp Apr 23 15:45:01 mickeyl: I just tested with a corrected /etc/network/interfaces file and it worked fine with the spectrum card Apr 23 15:45:13 RP: ok cool, what did you change? Apr 23 15:45:18 AlexTe: make the kakasi-native put the tool in ${STAGING_BINDIR}. /me looks at mickeyl to check Apr 23 15:45:21 mickeyl: I just added my essid Apr 23 15:45:35 koen? Apr 23 15:45:39 what'S kakasi Apr 23 15:45:53 a cjk converter which needs to run some ninary Apr 23 15:45:57 binary even Apr 23 15:46:05 right Apr 23 15:46:06 I wasn't sure about STAGING_BINDIR Apr 23 15:46:15 foo-native needs to be installed there Apr 23 15:56:18 Ok the binary is there tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin/mkkanwa but it still fails with error : | /bin/sh: line 1: src/mkkanwa: cannot execute binary file Apr 23 15:56:41 2cu Apr 23 15:57:46 AlexTe: you need to patch the Makefile.in (or .am) to run 'mkkanwa' instead if 'src/mkkanwa' Apr 23 16:21:02 JustinP: could you check which xserver .dev builds? Apr 23 16:21:23 JustinP: I suspect the segfaults are being cause by xserver-kdrive-20060312 Apr 23 16:25:40 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r01bb9cb4... 10/conf/distro/ (3 files): distro configurations: introduce QTE_VERSION Apr 23 16:25:44 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r7d2e948e... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-unstable.conf: oz.conf: fix stupid typo Apr 23 16:25:48 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r56deba42... 10/classes/palmtop.bbclass: palmtop.bbclass: yet another typo Apr 23 16:25:52 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r006bb81b... 10/packages/libqpe/libqpe-opie.inc: libqpe-opie: take optional qt multithreading into account Apr 23 16:25:56 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rad62c55b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): libqpe/libopie: don't override EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST|PRE given in class Apr 23 16:26:00 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re399d3fa... 10/classes/opie.bbclass: opie.bbclass: leave one space at the end of EXTRA_* Apr 23 16:26:05 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1094ebfd... 10/packages/opie-freetype/opie-freetype.inc: opie-freetype: append to EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST, not override it Apr 23 16:26:09 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rcef0047f... 10/classes/palmtop.bbclass: palmtop.bbclass: say CONFIG-=thread if we don't build against a multithreaded qt Apr 23 16:28:30 mickeyl: all your commits are dated ~17 hours ago, is the clock on your buildmachine allright? Apr 23 16:29:09 maybe cia fell asleep? Apr 23 16:29:34 17 is an odd number to be skewed Apr 23 16:29:58 emte: I was looking at the monotone db Apr 23 16:30:29 ah, bad me Apr 23 16:30:40 but you didn't know that :) Apr 23 16:31:14 it was a 50/50 guess Apr 23 16:31:35 either had to be looking at the cia list or the repo Apr 23 16:34:41 bitbake 1.4 seems to be behaving quite nicely Apr 23 16:35:54 * emte should really update ... Apr 23 16:36:16 havent had much time for anything besides school work Apr 23 16:36:54 koen: You sound surprised :) Apr 23 16:37:55 bitbake just needs to get hit with the pretty stick Apr 23 16:38:07 koen: mickey@c3po:/local/pkg/oe/packages/packages$ date Apr 23 16:38:07 So Apr 23 18:47:55 CEST 2006 Apr 23 16:38:07 I do love the view some people have: We've a massive speed improvement so I obviously broke something and any bug found is a cache problem until proven otherwise :) Apr 23 16:38:23 koen: perhaps merlin has a wrong time Apr 23 16:38:25 * mickeyl checks Apr 23 16:38:29 lol Apr 23 16:38:47 no, merlin has a correct time as well Apr 23 16:38:56 the major change was just moving the cache from python to another language was it not? Apr 23 16:39:38 monotone db sync are a buit far apart now? Apr 23 16:39:39 hah Apr 23 16:39:46 bit* Apr 23 16:39:47 don't blame python. Apr 23 16:40:18 usually using a better algorithm is giving more impact than using a faster language Apr 23 16:40:22 which is what we did in this case as well Apr 23 16:40:29 * mickeyl hugs python Apr 23 16:40:32 hmm Apr 23 16:41:30 but lisp is everyone's parsing pal Apr 23 16:42:58 occasionaly i wander across a parsing comparison, usually python is less than favorable. but you are probably right, algorithm is the largest factor Apr 23 16:43:04 koen: ;) Apr 23 16:43:37 emte: context? Apr 23 16:43:46 hi, did anyone managed to run openttd? Apr 23 16:44:42 emte: It was the same langaueg, different algorithm Apr 23 16:45:19 ah Apr 23 16:46:08 zecke, the PM give enough context for you? Apr 23 16:46:15 emte: thanks a lot Apr 23 16:46:24 emte: better algorithm helps a lot Apr 23 16:46:41 emte: e.g. the most expensive operation update_data Apr 23 16:46:50 emte: is now one of the fastest Apr 23 16:47:46 is there still any plans to move to sqlite? or has bb2 been shelved perm Apr 23 16:48:16 emte: to solve what problem? Apr 23 16:48:17 emte: Not perm, just for now, until we see what we can do with the existing python codebase Apr 23 16:49:10 emte: In theory we could use sqlite with python. Its just slow and doesn't suit the way bitbake uses data Apr 23 16:49:31 zecke, was partially speed (which RP fixed) and partially a more dynamic way to handle package inheritance/dependancies wasnt it? Apr 23 16:49:48 emte: yes, deps could be better Apr 23 16:50:00 emte: e.g. I had a sqlite data module, it was dog slow tough Apr 23 16:50:45 yeah, probably for the reason RP just stated Apr 23 16:51:31 emte: e.g. even packaging of glibc is way faster now Apr 23 16:51:50 that good, it was by far the slowest package Apr 23 16:52:51 koen: mickeyl hrw|gone CoreDump|home : what do you consider of the following statement. "Drop OPIE from Angstrom" Apr 23 16:53:46 reminds me, i have/had a SoC idea for OE, which would help with image/usability (for newer users and business). Get someone to write the eclipse plugins for bitbake and monotone. Apr 23 16:53:55 zecke: insane. who wants that? Apr 23 16:54:08 Opie may not be that good, but it's usable for lots of people. Apr 23 16:54:09 mickeyl: zecke said that Apr 23 16:54:16 mickeyl: when is Angstrom due? Apr 23 16:54:29 zecke: we aim the first release for 2006.9 Apr 23 16:54:44 mickeyl: IMHO we have either QtopiaCore or encourage E17 or GPE/matchbox Apr 23 16:54:54 in 2006.9 Apr 23 16:55:00 let the first shock pass and let me think about that for some days Apr 23 16:55:06 you may as well be right Apr 23 16:55:26 QtopiaCore is nothing we can ship btw. Apr 23 16:55:28 ~lart matchbox Apr 23 16:55:28 * ibot shoots matchbox in the head Apr 23 16:55:34 no one wants to have just a library :D Apr 23 16:55:57 mickeyl: Qtopia4 I meant ;) Apr 23 16:56:13 drop opie1 and include opie2 ;) Apr 23 16:56:19 and honestly, i think qtopia4 will suck for a lot of machines and I don't think i want to spend time to bugfix it for TT Apr 23 16:56:25 heh, good idea Apr 23 16:56:29 if it was 2008 Apr 23 16:56:31 :D Apr 23 16:56:38 mickeyl: well, 'we' can drop it from Angstrom then Apr 23 16:56:49 Reasoning: Put preassure on TT Apr 23 16:57:47 Would they care? Apr 23 16:57:49 no kidding. dropping opie from angstrom would be a pretty tough signal Apr 23 16:57:54 treke|home: i think so Apr 23 16:58:24 treke|home: they might care for EmbeddedLinux is Gtk+ Apr 23 16:58:26 they always like point to OZ and the like if it benefits their marketing arguments... Apr 23 16:58:35 afterall gtkmm is nice as well Apr 23 16:59:43 I'm attempting to compile zten now, how do I make him find includes from libraries I have previously compiled ? Must install them in ${STAGING_INCDIR} ? Apr 23 17:00:06 AlexTe: well, it depends Apr 23 17:00:20 AlexTe: are they part of zten? or just dependencies? Apr 23 17:00:55 it's dependancy from some library called "eb" Apr 23 17:01:06 mickeyl: 'b' Apr 23 17:01:22 ok Apr 23 17:01:27 AlexTe: maybe create a directory eb in ${STAGING_INCDIR} Apr 23 17:01:33 AlexTe: and install the headers there Apr 23 17:05:33 emte: Currently we start to understand bitbake1 Apr 23 17:05:44 ? Apr 23 17:05:48 * emte scrolls up Apr 23 17:05:48 emte: within a couple of month parsing speed will be not a issue Apr 23 17:05:55 ah Apr 23 17:06:25 emte: I see not too many reasons to start bitbake2 myself then Apr 23 17:07:48 yeah, seeing as bitbake is an overhaul i wasnt sure if it was scraped after kergoth lost interest Apr 23 17:07:54 bitbake2* Apr 23 17:15:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rde84437c... 10/packages/corsair/ (3 files in 2 dirs): corsair: added 0.2.0 from .dev Apr 23 17:15:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re54d3f9c... 10/packages/corsair/corsair_0.2.0.bb: corsair: switch to tarball instead of CVS Apr 23 17:17:02 CoreDump|home: altboot 1.0.6 or 1.0.7-rc2 for 3.5.4.1-rc1? Apr 23 17:17:06 CoreDump|home: ping Apr 23 17:17:26 1.0.6 Apr 23 17:17:38 zecke: I'd rather not drop opie, but right now it's "team opie"'s call Apr 23 17:18:13 ok Apr 23 17:18:39 hey hrw Apr 23 17:18:57 CoreDump|home: plan for OZ 3.5.4.1-rc1: altboot 1.0.6, sumtool used on images, 'fixed' arc4->wep thing Apr 23 17:19:39 hrw: and the kernel fixes Apr 23 17:19:41 hrw: I didn't see the arc4 thingy with compiled images, only on ipkg upgrade Apr 23 17:20:00 zecke: you do have a point in making a 'closed source crap' version of angstrom to show you can use it as a base for $evil GUI Apr 23 17:20:13 CoreDump|home: wep does not work without it Apr 23 17:20:32 RP: I will use newest .oz354x kernel Apr 23 17:20:35 that may be =) But maybe it is pulled into compiled images Apr 23 17:20:48 hrw: .dev and .oz354x are in sync Apr 23 17:21:01 koen: TeamOpie = {} ;) Apr 23 17:21:22 RP: yep - and I want to get info from Pavel Roskin about my hostap patches before Apr 23 17:21:35 zecke: TeamOpie -= "hrw" even Apr 23 17:22:03 Its a shame as I like opie... Apr 23 17:22:19 now I have an error in qpe/qpeapplication.h, can you help ? http://pastebin.com/677171 Apr 23 17:23:27 AlexTe: wrong 'QMAKESPEC' Apr 23 17:23:37 AlexTe: e.g. a -DQWS is missing when compiling Apr 23 17:23:49 cu Apr 23 17:28:01 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * redb2b19e... 10/classes/sanity.bbclass: sanity.bbclass: fixed typo in error message (utilits -> utility) Apr 23 17:36:10 RP: "Make native.bbclass set MACHINE to the build Apr 23 17:36:11 machine's arch and always inherit multimachine.conf" Apr 23 17:36:42 RP: I wrote an email with almost the exact same wording many moons ago :) Apr 23 17:37:10 that's a slick idea Apr 23 17:37:25 but we need to draw a line or else we build everything twice Apr 23 17:37:46 alternatively, a good set of autofoo tests + ASSUME_PROVDIDED ;) Apr 23 17:38:27 mickeyl: when I was using LFS (1999-2003) there was a discussion about the 'purity' of LFS Apr 23 17:39:03 you need to build everything twice to garantee that the host system doesn't influence anything Apr 23 17:39:15 (ignoring -I/usr/include in packages) Apr 23 17:40:11 i'm afraid users won't get this logic Apr 23 17:40:16 or won't believe it Apr 23 17:40:27 "i have everything, i don't _want_ OE to build it" Apr 23 17:40:33 yeah Apr 23 17:40:46 most toolchain issues aren't interesting to users Apr 23 17:41:20 * chouimat is away: groceries Apr 23 17:41:25 This was what I meant by -native becomming special Apr 23 17:41:31 but having a flag to let OE build everything would be nice for purists Apr 23 17:43:25 it wouldn't be such a nuisance if we had the option to do snapshots or so - so that we wouldn't have to build all native stuff again once we rebuild a distro Apr 23 17:43:38 donate $1M to us and we'll get OE ready for SElinux :) Apr 23 17:43:38 snapshots would be interesting even for non-native stuff Apr 23 17:45:12 Its all covered by staging under packaging control Apr 23 17:46:11 staging under package control! Apr 23 17:47:12 back later... Apr 23 17:49:00 agree with koen. Even non-purist already profit from the stability of the Jackass/Rockhopper toolkits (a Gentoo installation where the toolchain is built twice). Apr 23 17:51:05 for sure, I'd be glad OE to offer such a feature :) Apr 23 18:10:27 hi, can anyone help me with openttd? Apr 23 18:23:03 what is openttd and what help do you need? Apr 23 18:23:37 openttd is a game, its on the base feed of openzaurus (am i in the right place?) Apr 23 18:23:52 guess #openzaurus may be the better channel Apr 23 18:24:18 I'm also trying there, thanx Apr 23 18:24:20 if the package doesn't work I recommend adding a bugtracker entry to bugs.openembedded.org -> prodcut 3.5.4 Apr 23 18:24:55 I'm not sure, maybe it's just a configuration problem... Apr 23 18:25:17 btw thanx for the oe sdk... I use it alot Apr 23 18:50:56 * emte hopes monotone revert --missing Apr 23 18:50:56 was the right choice Apr 23 18:51:35 looks liek it Apr 23 19:21:05 I finally succeded in compiling zten and its libraries thank to your instructions, it runs but it segfaults when I go in some menu :( Apr 23 19:22:02 I'm not sure how to troubleshoot this... Apr 23 19:22:18 AlexTe: install catchsegfault Apr 23 19:22:29 catchsegv? Apr 23 19:22:44 yes Apr 23 19:22:52 libsegault as well Apr 23 19:23:25 cachsegv should pull it in by itself Apr 23 19:32:25 should would could if it had a hood do do do da Apr 23 19:32:35 locate vxd Apr 23 19:33:32 http://pastebin.com/677421 <-- catchsegv output Apr 23 19:39:53 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra8a95de4... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf: zaurus-clamshell.conf: fix jffs2 summary generation Apr 23 19:41:28 hmm Apr 23 19:41:37 jffs_readinode: CRC failures Apr 23 19:41:41 is that something to worry about? Apr 23 19:42:07 I have a mental block against jffs2 errors, so I wouldn't know Apr 23 19:42:10 i would think so ... Apr 23 19:42:30 but maybe not as long as your not rewriting to it? Apr 23 19:42:41 or uising the data? Apr 23 19:42:52 using* Apr 23 19:51:01 cute: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=901 Apr 23 19:51:10 the neverending udev story Apr 23 19:53:42 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8681a167... 10/conf/machine/include/zaurus-clamshell.conf: Apr 23 19:53:42 zaurus-clamshell.conf: back out the jffs2 summary patch; we need to handle that one different on c7x0 because of the extra Apr 23 19:53:42 sharp flash header :/ Apr 23 19:54:03 gah Apr 23 19:54:10 ~lart sharp Apr 23 19:54:11 * ibot chops sharp in half with a free AOL CD Apr 23 19:55:14 mickeyl: we could however use it for the other mtd partition Apr 23 19:55:21 in some funky startup script Apr 23 19:56:01 koen: remove 16 byte header, run sumtool, add 16 byte header... Apr 23 19:56:33 dance around backwards, howl to the moon, run crc32 Apr 23 19:56:58 koen: It could be worse I guess... Apr 23 19:57:26 RP: is there a mtd checking or low-level format tool or somethig like that? Apr 23 19:57:30 i have new CRC errors Apr 23 19:58:33 flash_eraseall? Apr 23 19:58:49 mickeyl: My usual approach is to wipe all files and then create one big one to fill the partition Apr 23 19:59:14 mickeyl: The root partition is erased by updater.sh Apr 23 19:59:36 hmm Apr 23 19:59:41 perhaps it's the 2nd partition Apr 23 20:01:12 mickeyl: That one shouldn't have been damaged by the above sumtool issues... Apr 23 20:01:34 can sumtool be ran 'online'? Apr 23 20:01:52 koen: I doubt it Apr 23 20:02:09 .. still stuck building kernel for tosa (.dev branch openzaurus-unstable): http://oe.pastebin.com/677483 ; if 'enforce with -f' is a recommendation, how can I do that please ? Apr 23 20:02:24 koen: The Zaurus kernels do have summary suport enabled and have had for a while Apr 23 20:04:00 cyrilRomain: It looks like one of my patches is conflicting with one of Dirks - you could try commenting out the zaurus_reboot patch in the kernel .bb file Apr 23 20:05:30 hmm Apr 23 20:07:24 ok, my last patch gets TTF fonts back *phew* Apr 23 20:07:51 greetings to all ! Apr 23 20:08:31 RP: I commented zaurus_reboot patch, but bitbake now download linux-2.6.15.tar.gz; it is normal ? Apr 23 20:08:49 cyrilRomain: No, it should be building the 2.6.16 version Apr 23 20:11:23 RP: well, ok, I removed the line instead of commenting and it's now builind 2.6.16, but another patch fails :-( Apr 23 20:11:46 cyrilRomain: With rejects on which file? Apr 23 20:11:50 RP: http://oe.pastebin.com/677507 Apr 23 20:11:50 zecke: hmm... dunno whether it's just me, but opie feels more sluggish with -rtti, +exceptions and -mt Apr 23 20:13:54 cyrilRomain: :-/. I don't know what the state of the current tosa build is. If zaurus_reboot isn't in there, it shouldn't be my patches causing that... Apr 23 20:14:30 mickeyl: I'm tempted to say that all those threads are fighting for fb access ;) Apr 23 20:15:46 koen: heh. the thing is... we're not using threads... i just compiled the -mt version to get that new konqueror running Apr 23 20:17:26 * koen tries to catch up on some sleep Apr 23 20:17:28 'night all Apr 23 20:17:32 g'night koen Apr 23 20:17:56 'night koen|sleep Apr 23 20:18:18 * RP shouldn't have been reading until 3am this morning... Apr 23 20:18:29 what did you read? Apr 23 20:19:54 mickeyl: Just a random fiction book. I used to do a lot of reading until hacking got in the way... Apr 23 20:20:43 It was one thing I used the Zaurus for when I first got it... Apr 23 20:22:42 RP: :-/ well, should I report a bug for this ? Apr 23 20:23:36 cyrilRomain: Leave it with me - I'll discuss it with Dirk (do13) next time I see him online Apr 23 20:23:49 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r86e9d63c... 10/packages/udev/udev_084.bb: udev 084: ship links.conf, patch courtesy Stelios Koroneos Apr 23 20:23:56 RP: ok, thx Apr 23 20:31:36 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc2ff150d... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb: Apr 23 20:31:36 linux-oz-2.6: Add some preliminary poodle hacks which get MMC/SD cards working, Apr 23 20:31:36 add suspend/resume support and working charging. There are some gross hacks Apr 23 20:31:36 involved but as least we know where the prolems are. This code is considered Apr 23 20:31:36 alpha and has bugs, hence its only enabled for poodle. Apr 23 20:35:14 yay! Apr 23 20:35:17 ~praise RP Apr 23 20:35:19 All hail RP! Apr 23 20:36:02 Its a bit hacky in places but it does on the most part work. We can now think how to do it more neatly :) Apr 23 20:36:28 The nice bit is I didn't have to alter the core sharpsl_pm driver much to take the new machine Apr 23 20:36:37 oh that's good Apr 23 20:36:46 so only tosa is the charging exception Apr 23 20:37:21 So it seems :-/ Apr 23 20:38:34 You have no idea how pleased I was when poodle suspended and then resumed, seemingly without effort :) Apr 23 20:38:41 i can roughly imagine :) Apr 23 20:39:36 Does that only leave poodle sound for a semi working 2.6 kernel? Apr 23 20:40:42 please do some tests with the spectrum card Apr 23 20:40:46 this was no go on poodle either Apr 23 20:41:07 No go in what way? It just didn't work with the machine? Apr 23 20:41:12 right Apr 23 20:41:12 According to gdb segfault is here, do you have any idea : 0x402d937c in QTextCodec::toUnicode () from /opt/QtPalmtop/lib/libqte.so.2 Apr 23 20:41:27 users reported "it didn't work" Apr 23 20:41:38 AlexTe: hmm doesn't look right Apr 23 20:41:41 AlexTe: URL zten? Apr 23 20:42:26 http://www.gohome.org/zten/ Apr 23 20:42:37 it's in japanese, mostly Apr 23 20:42:40 lol Apr 23 20:42:57 AlexTe: ah a dict Apr 23 20:43:09 yeah, this app worked flawlessly on sharp and cacko rom Apr 23 20:43:22 I thought it would be easy to compile it for OZ Apr 23 20:43:25 do13: ping Apr 23 20:43:30 AlexTe: well they don't use GPL versions of QtE and QPE ;) Apr 23 20:43:42 AlexTe: wait a second Apr 23 20:43:49 RP: you got a poodle as well? Apr 23 20:44:23 mickeyl: is there a possibility in getting the C-7x0 for QtE keyboard hacking? Apr 23 20:45:09 zecke: sure. do you want our project c750 for a while? Apr 23 20:45:51 mickeyl: The spectrum card works perfectly Apr 23 20:45:51 mickeyl: Let me check something first Apr 23 20:46:01 zecke: Yes, the one John Lenz had Apr 23 20:46:02 RP: pretty cool. ~praise kernel 2.6 Apr 23 20:46:33 mickeyl: Before this it had my hostap card in so its safe to say it works just as well as the other models Apr 23 20:47:06 mickeyl: hmm, I don't know if I have the time :} Apr 23 20:47:18 zecke: ok, you'll get it after your Vordiplom Apr 23 20:47:22 :D Apr 23 20:47:37 mickeyl: haha, looking at my schedule ~6 weeks learning Apr 23 20:47:50 mickeyl: 4*sessions... Apr 23 20:47:52 do13: pingping Apr 23 20:54:39 AlexTe: could you get me the URL to the source? Apr 23 20:55:27 SRC_URI = "http://www.gohome.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/zten.tar.gz \ Apr 23 20:55:56 AlexTe: which version of EB did you use? Apr 23 20:56:13 4.2.2 Apr 23 20:56:44 AlexTe: my debian has a package libeb7-dev is that the right version? Apr 23 20:56:46 BTW I have enabled QEucJpCodec in my libqte, not sure it's needed but it might be a problem Apr 23 20:57:19 not sure it's the same eb at all : http://www.sra.co.jp/people/m-kasahr/eb Apr 23 20:57:32 sorry japanese again :) Apr 23 20:58:38 AlexTe: I'm trying to build it on my x86 host Apr 23 20:59:35 ok then you will need kakaki too : http://kakasi.namazu.org/ Apr 23 21:05:28 OT: do we have mingw in OE already? Apr 23 21:07:07 qbookentry.cpp: return QString (g_codec->toUnicode(title)); <-- it has definetely something to do with codecs Apr 23 21:07:25 AlexTe: g_codec is likely to be uninitialized then Apr 23 21:07:34 AlexTe: copy your built libqte to the device then Apr 23 21:08:05 yes I'm already using my libqte codec enabled version Apr 23 21:10:14 hmm, not bad, konq/3.5 runs Apr 23 21:10:20 qt-mt-2.3.10 Apr 23 21:10:22 albeit slow Apr 23 21:10:32 and it's a qapplication Apr 23 21:10:36 looks a bit strange Apr 23 21:10:47 *shrug* Apr 23 21:14:21 bbl Apr 23 21:14:37 mickey|tv: do we use the ROAD gui? Apr 23 21:15:21 ya, --enable-gui=ROAD is listed in .conf Apr 23 21:15:29 EXTRA_OECONF even Apr 23 21:17:35 mickey|tv: was it -nodaemon for QtE? Apr 23 21:21:51 AlexTe: I see some uninitialized vars in QtE, but nothing that is really broken Apr 23 21:23:05 AlexTe: gosh, that qbookentry.cpp is fun.. Apr 23 21:24:09 AlexTe: start by doing g_codec = NULL; in qbookentry.cpp Apr 23 21:26:32 QTextCodec* g_codec; <-- here ? Apr 23 21:27:26 AlexTe: yes Apr 23 21:27:31 qbookentry.cpp:532: if (g_codec == NULL) Apr 23 21:27:40 AlexTe: it looks like g_codec is never set to NULL Apr 23 21:27:50 AlexTe: so g_codec will never be initialized Apr 23 21:27:57 AlexTe: and yes we need eucJP encoding Apr 23 21:28:48 compiling... Apr 23 21:35:39 AlexTe: and, and, and? Apr 23 21:36:30 sorry same segfault Apr 23 21:36:48 but this function is used in other files, maybe I should patch them too Apr 23 21:36:58 ztenbook.cpp and ztencandidate.cpp Apr 23 21:37:08 AlexTe: g_codec? Apr 23 21:37:21 AlexTe: use something like printf to print g_codec Apr 23 21:37:29 AlexTe: I suspect it is uninitialized Apr 23 21:52:45 I dont see my printfs so that code is never used apparently : if (g_codec == NULL) ... Apr 23 21:55:05 oh wait Apr 23 21:55:39 wtf my partition table is lost again Apr 23 21:56:04 //#define QT_NO_UNICODETABLES <-- looks like commenting this in libqte did the trick Apr 23 21:56:16 it was about unicode so... Apr 23 21:56:50 *pissed off* Apr 23 21:57:35 damn Apr 23 21:58:03 anyway to recover the partition tabele? Apr 23 21:59:14 if you know the exact size you can just recreate it Apr 23 21:59:29 zecke, is this your host system? Apr 23 21:59:34 AlexTe: well, I don't know it Apr 23 21:59:38 emte: yes ;) Apr 23 21:59:49 I think I need windows fdisk to reinitialize the disk... Apr 23 21:59:57 ... Apr 23 22:00:29 you could use one of the partition tools/disk manuf tools to back it up next time ... Apr 23 22:00:47 invalid flag 0x0000 of partition table 4 Apr 23 22:01:02 partition table 4? Apr 23 22:01:16 will be corrected by w(rite) Apr 23 22:01:19 ... why do you have more than one partition table? Apr 23 22:01:21 emte: well, write doesn't fix it Apr 23 22:01:29 dunno Apr 23 22:02:22 this included BitBake, OE, $HOME and backups Apr 23 22:02:29 throws the system out of the window Apr 23 22:02:49 how complex is your partitioning scheme? (ie, number of paritions) Apr 23 22:02:51 i take it eth partitions still exist in fdisk? Apr 23 22:03:06 if so write down all the sizes adn rebuild the table Apr 23 22:03:13 is about all i can reccomend Apr 23 22:03:30 johnX: ~4 Apr 23 22:03:37 johnX: basicly all are lvm2 partitions Apr 23 22:03:41 zecke: good evening Apr 23 22:03:49 emte: 'p' shows no partitions Apr 23 22:04:02 er...I have no experience with lvm2 otherwise I'd offer to help Apr 23 22:04:10 thats bad, perhaps the MBR on your drive is failing Apr 23 22:04:29 Looks like it's time to break out your hex editor... Apr 23 22:04:32 unless you installed it bootsector ... Apr 23 22:04:46 brb Apr 23 22:05:01 * zecke should patch the Linux block layer to not write to the first couple of bytes Apr 23 22:05:14 http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk Apr 23 22:05:28 I once had success restore my partition table with this tool Apr 23 22:05:41 takes ages to scan the while disk though Apr 23 22:05:46 *whole Apr 23 22:08:44 zten works fine, thanks for the help ! I will polish my .bb files, and hope this can be added to OZ Apr 23 22:09:31 present for you zecke maybe it will help Apr 23 22:11:29 AlexTe: nice hint Apr 23 22:13:20 AlexTe: wow, thanks Apr 23 22:14:25 wow it worked Apr 23 22:14:39 good nite Apr 23 23:41:13 how do I use ":se noai Apr 23 23:41:13 abitbake-1.4 stable branch:se ai Apr 23 23:41:38 how do I use bitbake-1.4 stable branch? my bitbake just started saying it's too advanced for me :-) Apr 23 23:48:03 Apr 24 01:32:14 koen|sleep: indeed xserver-kdrive-0.0+cvs20060312-r11 Apr 24 01:32:51 koen|sleep: perhaps I should be using xserver-kdrive-0.0cvs20050207-r9, same as oz354x? Apr 24 05:05:36 JustinP, i sent a response to the mailing list in regards to your sf problem and treke|home you need to cache dalies of gaim on oesources Apr 24 05:05:41 dailies* Apr 24 05:06:07 what;'s up? Apr 24 05:06:49 just adding daily cvs snapshots of gaim to your oesorces list Apr 24 05:06:54 sources* Apr 24 05:07:43 well if cvs is down, I can't do jack about it Apr 24 05:08:14 nah its not down Apr 24 05:08:22 its just flakey as always Apr 24 05:10:13 treke|home, but i did think of an idea for that time skew problem :) Apr 24 05:10:27 Use GMT all the time? Apr 24 05:10:50 just make bitbake fall back to the latest version on oesources if it cant pickup the primary url Apr 24 05:11:19 sort of self assign aitself a date Apr 24 05:11:25 itself* Apr 24 05:11:56 would require altering the cvs class for bitbake tho Apr 24 05:12:07 and making the backup a special case Apr 24 05:12:43 but it would mean taht you could lean it back to once a day or week ... Apr 24 05:13:48 emte: that would be a large bitbake change I think....if you wanted the SRCDATE (and PR) to be correct and all Apr 24 05:14:03 and I haven't seen it be flakey, I've seen it be down Apr 24 05:14:14 I haven't gotten anything from it in 2 weeks or so Apr 24 05:14:31 i pull from it yesterday Apr 24 05:14:42 it *might* be that it's just 1/100 gets in or something, but that's down in my book Apr 24 05:38:59 JustinP, nah not a big change. PR wouldnt change and SRCDATE woudl just be a temporary override for something that is already a floating value Apr 24 05:39:55 would* Apr 24 05:43:19 it would need to kick out a nice fat warning tho that it is not using the "current date" but is trying to continue with the build Apr 24 05:44:30 this would also allow the option for it to automatically fallback to the one you may have in yoru sources dir as a last resort Apr 24 05:45:13 its just a method to increase redundancy Apr 24 05:45:20 emte: PR *would* change for most (all) of them Apr 24 05:45:30 how? Apr 24 05:45:41 PR only referes to bb file changes Apr 24 05:45:47 not source Apr 24 05:46:13 sorry, not PR Apr 24 05:46:14 PV Apr 24 05:46:25 as in PV = "2.0+cvs-${SRCDATE}" Apr 24 05:47:09 it would only change in asmuch as SRCDATE would temorarily be reassigned Apr 24 05:47:22 temporarily* Apr 24 05:47:35 yes Apr 24 05:48:07 as long as the change happens to *anything* that SRCDATE touches that would be ok....but I don't think that's as trivial as you're making it out to be Apr 24 05:48:16 anyway Apr 24 05:48:20 * JustinP sleeps Apr 24 05:48:28 it probably isnt Apr 24 05:48:36 its just a rough idea Apr 24 05:55:54 I really think the simpler solution is just to have OE do all dates and times in GMT, so that everyone is on the same page Apr 24 05:56:25 it is as well Apr 24 05:57:11 about the only advantage of mine would be someoen who does/can only update once a day or every few days but is using current date Apr 24 05:57:54 * emte shrugges Apr 24 06:16:35 hi all ... i had problem restarting with OE ... OE.db.oe for soem reason is corrupterd ... how i can skip the download of the starting OE.db and do all with monotone ? Apr 24 06:17:04 you do not really want to do taht ... Apr 24 06:17:18 altho its now daown to a few hours Apr 24 06:17:23 down* Apr 24 06:17:55 i have a slow connection ... and for me is worse download the bz2 than do a slow starting woth monotone :( Apr 24 06:18:02 http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted the monotone stuff is ~ 1/2 way down Apr 24 06:18:20 i feel bad for you then Apr 24 06:18:39 i cannot imagin how long it is going to take Apr 24 06:19:05 emte i'm reading that .. and time ago it contain the option 1) downloaf OE.db.bz2 2) do a slow command with monotone ... but now the second choise isn't listed :( Apr 24 06:19:27 yeah i just noticed that Apr 24 06:19:35 sec i'll get you an old one Apr 24 06:20:31 the OE.db.bz2 how often are changed ? i suppose what i download is corrupetd cause i download it in 3 pieces and few day between one and the other ... Apr 24 06:20:59 once or twice a day i belive Apr 24 06:21:38 i have a 64K isdn ... :( :( :( ... for me is difficult to get also the bzipped database :( Apr 24 06:23:00 hmmm Apr 24 06:24:23 i'll grab a copy and put it somewhere for you to get it ... Apr 24 06:25:42 emte sendign by mail is a feasible choise ? Apr 24 06:26:11 i can if you really wish .... Apr 24 06:26:29 what is more simple for u ;) Apr 24 06:27:19 i was just going to drop it on a webserver and you could use whatever client you wanted, but i can sned be mail if that is easier for you .... i just figured you would want a resumable protocol Apr 24 06:27:41 right web is easy :) Apr 24 06:31:06 http://www.labotomy.net/NONWEB/OE.db.bz2 Apr 24 06:31:20 thanks !!!! Apr 24 06:32:20 np Apr 24 06:33:50 it should be decent for you, its a 100Mbit server Apr 24 06:34:12 so the bottleneck will only be your connection Apr 24 06:38:23 it's easy that i'm the bottleneck :) Apr 24 06:41:22 :) Apr 24 06:43:45 i hope to heva ADSL for the end of this year ... Apr 24 06:57:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb7b07828... 10/packages/gpe-today/gpe-today_0.11.bb: gpe-today: update to 0.11 Apr 24 06:58:18 good morning all Apr 24 06:58:26 morning koen :) Apr 24 07:01:11 hey gremlin[it] Apr 24 07:04:07 yop Apr 24 07:04:21 hey Genesis Apr 24 07:04:40 Good morning everyone! Apr 24 07:07:09 Just pulled a fresh copy of OE and started to build. I get a "ERROR: Error Method already seen: get_appweb_host in' appweb_1.2.0.bb' now in 'appweb_2.0.4.bb'" Is this something to worry about? Did I do anything wrong? Apr 24 07:07:14 Hi all. I have rsom problems again. It suddenly asks for libqpe-opie. No providers for libqpe-opie. How do i solve this? Apr 24 07:07:15 hey Laibsch Apr 24 07:07:30 Laibsch: use the stable branch of bitbake (see gettingstarted) Apr 24 07:07:35 Moin Koen, I hope you are doing fine. Apr 24 07:09:28 koen: you mean org.openembedded.oz354x instead of org.openembedded.dev, right? Apr 24 07:10:42 Laibsch: no, bitbake Apr 24 07:11:08 Laibsch: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted#head-70027dcaf22e3c966ac6189541ebcbb9d3af5005 Apr 24 07:12:54 where to get libqpe? Apr 24 07:13:15 I updated bitbake via cron, I thought it was up to date. Apr 24 07:13:25 That anchor does not go anywhere. Apr 24 07:13:42 I'm sure I'll find the necessary part on that page, though. Apr 24 07:13:48 svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.4 bitbake Apr 24 07:13:55 that will give you the stable branch of bitbake Apr 24 07:15:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd82f1294... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: set CVSDATE to 20060424 Apr 24 07:15:56 Can I do that while having bitbake "up-to-date" via "cd /usr/src/openembedded/bitbake && svn up" from cron or should I remove the directory first? Apr 24 07:16:37 no idea Apr 24 07:16:43 svn sucks Apr 24 07:19:01 OK Apr 24 07:19:06 Thank you for your help Apr 24 07:19:17 It seems the dir needs to be moved. Apr 24 07:20:39 mickey|tv: ERROR: dependency virtual/libqpe (for opie-keytabs) not satisfied Apr 24 07:23:26 morning Apr 24 07:41:34 morning Apr 24 07:42:12 Morning hrw. Can you help me with something here? Apr 24 07:42:22 maybe Apr 24 07:42:52 I have runned in to some problems again Apr 24 07:43:53 it complains that : no provides depedency virtual/libqpe Apr 24 07:44:03 I am trying to build a opie-image Apr 24 07:44:21 goxboxlive_: .dev? Apr 24 07:44:28 It worked before i did a monotone update Apr 24 07:44:43 goxboxlive_: recently libqpe -> libqpe1 was done Apr 24 07:45:37 ok, so in the local.conf i'll put in libqpe1-opie instead of libqpe-opie? Apr 24 07:45:57 yes i am useing the dev branch Apr 24 07:46:14 goxboxlive_: dont know - I do not trace .dev now Apr 24 07:47:10 ok, thx anyway, i'll try. Apr 24 07:56:11 morning Apr 24 07:57:03 morning. Apr 24 07:57:28 do u know what this means? : no provides depedency virtual/libqpe Apr 24 08:00:03 hey zecke Apr 24 08:00:09 hi zecke Apr 24 08:00:39 hi zecke :-) Apr 24 08:00:55 hey Apr 24 08:03:32 Zecke: Are you ready for som problem i hve now with building an Opie-image? It have worked great now until i did an monotone update. Apr 24 08:03:50 goxboxlive: hehe, 'monotone update' the recurring theme Apr 24 08:03:52 hail zecke Apr 24 08:04:00 goxboxlive: just ask, I'm back in a minute Apr 24 08:05:49 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * radfabc9d... 10/packages/sip/ (4 files): sip4-native: upgrade to 4.4.2 Apr 24 08:05:53 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd00d9789... 10/packages/ (3 files in 2 dirs): aliens, abuse: use sdl class Apr 24 08:05:57 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb228e613... 10/packages/ (18 files in 15 dirs): bitbake files inheriting palmtop: don't override EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST, append to it Apr 24 08:06:02 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd9f2b0cf... 10/packages/ (4 files in 4 dirs): bbfiles inheriting opie: don't override EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST|PRE, append to it Apr 24 08:07:18 goxboxlive: not privately, please ;) Apr 24 08:07:34 goxboxlive: who is depending on libqpe? Apr 24 08:08:04 opie-keytabs and opie-console Apr 24 08:09:55 right Apr 24 08:10:00 got some uncommited stuff in here Apr 24 08:10:03 wait a sec. Apr 24 08:10:06 good morning, btw. Apr 24 08:10:10 hi mickey|tv Apr 24 08:10:15 alsa 1.0.11 released Apr 24 08:10:27 ;) Apr 24 08:11:39 good morning mickey|tv Apr 24 08:12:43 opie-keytabs commited, opie-console should depend on virtual/libqpe1 through palmtop.bbclass. Apr 24 08:14:18 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r26622fef... 10/packages/opie-keytabs/opie-keytabs.inc: opie-keytabs: remove bogus depends on libqpe, keytabs is just data files Apr 24 08:16:37 mickey: So in the local.conf i have to put in virtual/libqpe1="libqpe1-opie" ???? Apr 24 08:16:38 goxboxlive: this is why one should not ask in private ;) Apr 24 08:17:06 zecke: I c, so this time, it's realy a problem, not a nOOb problem :-) Apr 24 08:17:20 goxboxlive: openzaurus-unstable.conf contains a line similar to this Apr 24 08:17:32 so no need to repeat it, unless you're using another distro Apr 24 08:17:43 it would be virtual/libqpe1 = "libqpe-opie" btw. Apr 24 08:18:29 goxboxlive: You probably need to rebuild packages that you're already built that now have an incorrect dependency Apr 24 08:18:31 Ok, because in the local.conf file i have now i setup with virtual/libqpe = "libqpe-opie" Apr 24 08:18:57 i considered removing that thing altogether, because we really have only one provider for libqpe in OE... Apr 24 08:19:07 goxboxlive: Although this is a build time dependency, so ignore me :-/ Apr 24 08:19:33 mickey|tv: hehe, well I know of people setting different virtual/libqpe Apr 24 08:19:36 the remaining stuff that depends on virtual/libqpe shouldn't be part of opie-image. it will be converted while I go over the individual bbfiles. Apr 24 08:19:58 zecke: *nod* i had that in mind when I left it like it is. Apr 24 08:20:02 I just read up on some of the things going on recently. Specifically, I am just going through koen's Gulev 2005 PDF. I do not yet understand what Angstrom is. From the description it sounds a lot like a continuation of the current OE stuff that formed the basis for OZ. Apr 24 08:20:12 * Laibsch is confused Apr 24 08:20:19 Laibsch: Angstrom is "just" another distribution. Apr 24 08:20:29 did anyone look at the annoying mplayer bug where it picks up qpe stuff when Opie was built in the same tmpdir as GPE? Apr 24 08:20:44 Laibsch: made by the people responsible for former OZ, OpenSIMpad, and Familiar releases Apr 24 08:20:52 Laibsch: so the idea is to have one distro to rule them all Apr 24 08:21:03 Laibsch: but then again, have some constraints like 2.6-devices only Apr 24 08:21:12 goxboxlive: You need to change that entry in your local.conf. If using openxzaurus-unstable, you can remove it Apr 24 08:21:13 Laibsch: + more policies, more polishing, more user involvement and stuff. Apr 24 08:21:45 Laibsch: It also give the oppertunity to break a few things like the ABI change Apr 24 08:21:46 So basically, I can move from the "old" OZ to the "new" Angstrom sometime in the future and it will not be much else than going from one OZ release to the other? I guess the focus is on removing duplicate effort? Apr 24 08:21:55 Laibsch: you got it. Apr 24 08:21:57 RP: I am certainly in for that. Apr 24 08:22:10 Thanks, guys Apr 24 08:22:19 OE is always moving so fast Apr 24 08:22:23 RP: I am using familiar-unstable, i have also tried to remove it, but it claimed the about the same depedency. Apr 24 08:22:44 You drop out a coupe of weeks and you have a whole bunch of stuff waiting for you to be learned. Apr 24 08:22:49 couple Apr 24 08:23:11 I read somewhere on the net OZ was dead and that of course got me worried. Apr 24 08:23:19 Glad to find this is not "really" the case. Apr 24 08:25:47 not at all. everything that OZ was will be Angstrom and from the looks of it we will continue to have a 3.5.4.x branch for quite some time Apr 24 08:25:59 a real stable branch Apr 24 08:26:08 * mickey|tv looks at hrw Apr 24 08:26:16 good morning mickey|tv Apr 24 08:26:19 hey pb_ Apr 24 08:26:22 and support for collie (and other 2.4 devices) Apr 24 08:26:28 right Apr 24 08:27:03 ah, good thinking Apr 24 08:27:08 * pb_ heads to the office Apr 24 08:27:09 bbiab Apr 24 08:27:16 hehe Apr 24 08:27:37 Laibsch: angstrom will be released sooner or later for 2.6 powered. OZ will stay for 2.4 powered (collie, poodle, tosa) but will be more and more less supported due to fact that tosa & poodle will move to 2.6 Apr 24 08:27:48 if [ -e /foo/bar ]; then echo "it's there"; else echo "it's not there" Apr 24 08:27:51 is that correct? Apr 24 08:27:58 my shell skills suck Apr 24 08:28:31 hrw|work: the 5500 will not move to 2.6? Apr 24 08:28:53 Laibsch: not in 2006 Apr 24 08:28:59 That would be sad. I have one of those and the current line of Z's I do not find too sexy. Apr 24 08:29:07 hrw|work: I am patient. ;-) Apr 24 08:29:51 Laibsch: few people has ideas what to do with sd support but all this need work and nearly noone want to work on collie support Apr 24 08:30:16 Have been trying almost for years now to make it possible for me to switch from Sharp ROM to OZ. So far this was not possible because of the lack of a Japanese input method. Apr 24 08:30:44 Laibsch: OZ 3.5.4 was probably last release for collie - newer ones will need SD/CF for storage or I will remove many things from collie rootfs Apr 24 08:31:19 Laibsch: ashikashi added japanese support - we need to add this to OZ soon Apr 24 08:31:45 Did he? I was in contact with him about that and there were still a few glitches Apr 24 08:31:50 anthy does compile Apr 24 08:32:00 Laibsch: qpobox works Apr 24 08:32:03 But what frontend do you use? Apr 24 08:32:09 Really? Apr 24 08:32:15 That would be too awesome. Apr 24 08:32:23 I am almost gonna cry. Apr 24 08:32:33 Is qpobox in 3.5.4? Apr 24 08:32:42 will be in may Apr 24 08:32:43 Oh, no you already said it was not Apr 24 08:32:52 Cool. Apr 24 08:33:02 need to find time for it Apr 24 08:33:09 first want to release 3.5.4.1 Apr 24 08:33:18 But I could compile it from .dev (or even .oz354x)? Apr 24 08:34:06 Laibsch: no - need to get it from bugtracker Apr 24 08:36:08 Laibsch: did you consider maintaining a newsletter, e.g. to mention important changes Apr 24 08:36:23 For OE? Apr 24 08:36:41 Laibsch: yes Apr 24 08:36:59 Laibsch: I started to recognize that our representation to the 'outside' needs a lot of work Apr 24 08:37:23 What would qualify me for this? I certainly want to help out. But sometimes I find it hard myself to stay abreast. Apr 24 08:37:34 Yes, like it did a year ago ;-) Apr 24 08:38:02 good morning Apr 24 08:38:10 hi Bernardo Apr 24 08:38:17 I will consider and get back to you within the day. Apr 24 08:38:36 zecke: OpenEmbedded Traffic? Apr 24 08:39:03 hrw|work: more like KDE svn ;) Apr 24 08:39:21 hrw|work: I think it is not too important to see the discussions that lead to something Apr 24 08:39:29 hrw|work: but to have the impact or features mentioned Apr 24 08:39:30 zecke: good idea Apr 24 08:40:10 hrw|work: we just need a writer for that Apr 24 08:40:50 Maybe we should have something like the OZ site for OE where we announce new OE features? Apr 24 08:41:29 hrw|work: Poodle 2.6 support took a bit of a leap forward this weekend ;-) Apr 24 08:42:14 RP: like it was expected ;) Apr 24 08:42:34 hrw|work speaking of japanese support, can you enable codecs in libqte. It's required by qpobox and other apps. Works fine for me. Apr 24 08:42:58 AlexTe|work: first want to release 3.5.4.1-rc1 Apr 24 08:43:13 AlexTe|work: how much more RAM and flash is needed for that? Apr 24 08:43:56 the modified libqte is just a couple of ko bigger, not sure about the ram Apr 24 08:44:07 AlexTe|work: codecs? what do they have to do with Japanese? Apr 24 08:44:17 Laibsch: Unicode Tables Apr 24 08:44:23 Laibsch: and Char conversion Apr 24 08:44:33 Xqt uses codecs as well Apr 24 08:44:55 OK. So far I only know about codecs for music/video and other multimedia. Apr 24 08:45:39 hi lrg Apr 24 08:45:41 Laibsch: hey liam Apr 24 08:45:43 hi Liam Apr 24 08:45:57 lrg: you obviously forgot to attach a patch to the bitbake bug ;) Apr 24 08:46:03 morning all Apr 24 08:46:15 mickey|bbl: you need a "; fi" on the end, but otherwise that's correct Apr 24 08:46:19 hi lrg Apr 24 08:46:26 hey lrg Apr 24 08:46:29 zecke, doh - it must still be in my home dir ;) Apr 24 08:46:38 lrg: how was CELF? Apr 24 08:46:50 lrg: I assumed that Apr 24 08:48:16 koen, CELF was very good - it looks like there will be a lot more linux consumer devices around next year as some big TV manufacturers were using Linux in their new digital sets Apr 24 08:48:38 lrg: nice Apr 24 08:48:39 lrg: directFB was mentioned a lot as well? Apr 24 08:48:58 am I the only one who just thought of "x server on me TV"? Apr 24 08:49:17 zecke, yep, the TV's all used directFB. Dennis Kropp was there doing a talk on DirectFB Apr 24 08:49:22 CoreDump|home: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc1/!_split-to-feeds.sh.txt can be interesting for you Apr 24 08:49:35 So where there any solution to the qpe problem i had? Or do i have to wait for an update or something? Apr 24 08:50:07 lrg: was he stoned? I think he stopped being stoned anyway Apr 24 08:50:15 goxboxlive: libqpe? Apr 24 08:50:22 goxboxlive: or which qpe problem? Apr 24 08:50:36 yes of course, sorry, libqpe Apr 24 08:50:47 zecke, no, although he seemed younger than I imagined. Apr 24 08:51:11 goxboxlive: mickeyl pushed the offender, do another mtn update and see what breaks now Apr 24 08:51:12 zecke, OE got mentioned a lot as well. Apr 24 08:51:23 RP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=883#c5 - can you look? Apr 24 08:51:30 damn I need to give more talks (any talk) Apr 24 08:51:41 zecke: thx Apr 24 08:51:43 ~seen do13 Apr 24 08:51:48 do13 is currently on #oe (1d 23h 33m 48s), last said: 'Hey RP'. Apr 24 08:56:30 hrw|work: I don't know whether we install usbmouse by default or not but it is compiled by the kernel fine Apr 24 09:03:06 Zecke: I got way logner, but still some problems: Look at this Apr 24 09:03:32 Nothing provide depedency dcopidl-native Apr 24 09:04:02 It's konqueror-embedded that has no buildable provider. Apr 24 09:05:18 RP: user told me that usbmouse module exist but no mousedev module and whole mouse subsystem is missing Apr 24 09:05:19 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r859929fe... 10/packages/mtd/ (4 files in 2 dirs): mtd-utils: add snapshot 20060223, includes sumtool (from .dev) Apr 24 09:05:26 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r23e5b0f0... 10/packages/udev/udev_084.bb: udev: ship links.conf - #901 Apr 24 09:05:31 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rcb82d9ee... 10/packages/altboot/altboot_1.0.6.bb: altboot 1.0.6: bump PR to 'rr1' so it is newer then 'rc' Apr 24 09:06:01 hrw|work: See my update to that bug - mousedev isn't being compiled. I'm not sure if that is or isn't a problem though Apr 24 09:07:03 hrw|work: I'll enabled mousedev in the defconfigs... Apr 24 09:08:38 goxboxlive: install dcopidl from your distribution Apr 24 09:08:53 goxboxlive: and ASSUME_PROVIDED += "dcopidl-native" in your local.conf Apr 24 09:10:13 zecke: it's not in the debian repo, only dcopdl2java. I'll try to install that one Apr 24 09:12:46 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r1fc0adbf... 10/conf/machine/handheld-common.conf: handheld-common: s/wpa-supplicant-nossl/wpa-supplicant - 0.4.8 is openssl powered Apr 24 09:12:51 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r7ef65513... 10/conf/licenses.conf: licenses.conf: added X11 Apr 24 09:14:17 goxboxlive: i just found dcopidl is in kdelibs4-dev in debian Apr 24 09:14:43 aquadran thx Apr 24 09:14:57 lrg: morning. Apr 24 09:15:07 lrg: borzoi+ recieved? Apr 24 09:16:40 greentux, yes thanks. it came during CELF, i'm now building a new image for it Apr 24 09:17:16 lrg: ok fine Apr 24 09:29:50 what do you guys think about adding new entry to 'Component' list in bugzilla? Now we have 'Build', 'Distributions' - I think that 'New recipe' (and few similar) could be nice Apr 24 09:39:06 * CoreDump|home thinks that would be a good idea Apr 24 09:39:21 ~curse RMK mail system Apr 24 09:39:23 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, RMK mail system ! Apr 24 09:39:33 > Ah, haven't seen many of your emails over the last three months - seems Apr 24 09:39:33 > they ended up in one of my junk mailboxes which are rarely looked at. Apr 24 09:40:47 heh Apr 24 09:41:40 ~hail 'for machine in akita spitz c7x0;do SOMETHING;done' Apr 24 09:41:42 * ibot bows down to 'for machine in akita spitz c7x0;do SOMETHING;done' and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Apr 24 09:45:35 zecke: ping! Apr 24 09:46:27 mithro: pong Apr 24 09:48:19 hello all **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 24 09:59:58 2006