**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 24 09:59:58 2006 Apr 24 10:04:03 heh.. /home on ewi ends.. time to clean tmp/work Apr 24 10:09:21 you need to ASSUME_PROVIDED that Apr 24 10:09:45 ups... too late Apr 24 10:10:38 mithro: hey Apr 24 10:10:52 zecke: yes :P Apr 24 10:12:04 mithro: hey, mickeyl is back Apr 24 10:12:10 mickeyl: hey Apr 24 10:12:21 zecke: he-he lousy tab complete :P Apr 24 10:12:50 mithro: yes, irssi sucks Apr 24 10:14:22 mickeyl: python coverage tools that integrate with unittest (jeapardy like question) Apr 24 10:15:47 zecke: Question to that answer: what are you looking into? Apr 24 10:16:09 Answer to the Jeopardy-Question: I have no idea, never looked into testing at all yet Apr 24 10:16:50 right, testing is overrated Apr 24 10:17:18 heh Apr 24 10:17:38 pb__: right Apr 24 10:23:58 Is there no bb file for compiling qpobox? -> bug 843 Apr 24 10:26:08 the necessary qte changes are not even in Apr 24 10:26:16 one step after another... Apr 24 10:27:37 hrw|work: Most of my emails to rmk end up there as well Apr 24 10:31:56 mickeyl / RP: i've done some more work on a COW classes for zecke :P Apr 24 10:32:17 coolness! Apr 24 10:32:22 give us benchmarks! Apr 24 10:32:23 :) Apr 24 10:32:31 cow = { 'cow' : True } Apr 24 10:32:38 'cow' in cow Apr 24 10:34:39 RP: got new patch to test with broken cards Apr 24 10:35:44 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf0b47a6... 10/packages/freedroid/ (3 files in 2 dirs): freedroid: decouple from opie via sdl.bbclass Apr 24 10:36:13 berlios seem to be alive again Apr 24 10:36:19 mithro: Excellent - I can't wait to see the patches :) Apr 24 10:36:47 hrw|work: From the kernel developers or did you write this one? Apr 24 10:36:51 RP: rmk Apr 24 10:37:20 hrw|work: Ah, I thought you meant broken PCMCIA cards :) Apr 24 10:37:29 RP: ;) Apr 24 10:37:39 hrw|work: Does this replace his last one or is it something extra? Apr 24 10:38:14 the COW stuff should be usable in other places (then bitbake) too... Apr 24 10:38:16 extra to test card Apr 24 10:43:05 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r9: task do_patch: completed Apr 24 10:43:07 uf Apr 24 11:13:27 ~lart watchguard firebox Apr 24 11:13:28 * ibot grabs a large, mis-shapened log, with squirrels, and beats watchguard firebox until only the nuts remain ... which the squirrels run off with Apr 24 11:15:39 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r5b0c87df... 10/packages/linux/ (16 files in 2 dirs): ixp4xx-kernel: Removed obsolete patches, and refreshed patchset from the nslu2-linux kernel CVS repo. Apr 24 11:28:35 Have anyone a clue what this might be: ? http://pastebin.com/678598 Apr 24 11:30:29 goxboxlive: hmm, a missing -lts Apr 24 11:31:15 goxboxlive: I have not built the latest konqueror myself Apr 24 11:32:13 zecke: Is that something can fix here, or is there something you guys have to update. I'll build it for a couple of days ago, but after the update it just refuse. Apr 24 11:32:30 goxboxlive: it could be a new version Apr 24 11:32:45 goxboxlive: it is a brand new and experimental konqueror version, so new I have not built it myself Apr 24 11:33:01 goxboxlive: a quick hack would be adding -lts Apr 24 11:34:37 zecke: Ok, but where do i add -lts :-/ Apr 24 11:34:46 EXTRA_LDFLAGS? Apr 24 11:48:46 i recommend reading the bbfile Apr 24 11:48:52 it has detailed comments on how to build a static konq Apr 24 11:48:56 like Apr 24 11:48:59 # uncomment that to foo Apr 24 11:49:00 etc. Apr 24 11:51:49 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9940a00b... 10/packages/abuse/abuse_0.7.0.bb: abuse: remove bogus depends, they come in via sdl class now Apr 24 11:51:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re7bd7365... 10/packages/vectoroids/vectoroids_1.1.0.bb: vectoroids: decouple from opie using sdl.bbclass Apr 24 11:51:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r784fefba... 10/classes/sdl.bbclass: sdl.bbclass: fix names Apr 24 11:53:08 very good Apr 24 11:53:58 :) this is sooo much cleaner now Apr 24 11:54:14 the opie packages just contain a link to the real binary and the launcher integration bits Apr 24 11:54:20 excellent Apr 24 11:54:28 that does sound like a big improvement Apr 24 11:59:37 mickeyl: I'm still in favor of removing X and GPE to avoid this mess :} Apr 24 11:59:57 mickeyl: but your solutions looks nice as well Apr 24 12:00:53 zecke: and remove opie from angstrom Apr 24 12:01:23 hrw|work: I want the same t-shirt as rml had for devfs Apr 24 12:01:40 hrw|work: 'Opie, GPE, X': ------------------------------------- ;) Apr 24 12:01:57 just kidding, well this t-shirt was nice Apr 24 12:02:53 pb__: I will apply at NetBSD this year, will look into dogtail, GPE and OE anyway Apr 24 12:03:11 RP: can matchbox use atk as well? Apr 24 12:06:49 zecke: I'm not 100% sure. Perhaps not at the moment Apr 24 12:08:19 ping emte Apr 24 12:20:42 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r230a1c50... 10/packages/gemdropx/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gemdropx: decouple from opie using sdl.bbclass Apr 24 12:20:47 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * reeb83bff... 10/classes/sdl.bbclass: sdl.bbclass: set SECTION properly Apr 24 12:21:01 koen: did you ever play with debtags? Apr 24 12:21:33 zecke: I very rarely build debian packages Apr 24 12:21:45 zecke: but it would be nice if OE supported debtag and .debs :) Apr 24 12:22:57 ok, enough OE work for today Apr 24 12:23:02 * mickeyl wents home for Ph.D work Apr 24 12:23:05 cu Apr 24 12:23:08 cu mickeyl Apr 24 12:23:09 cu mickeyl Apr 24 12:23:11 s/wents/wanders/ Apr 24 12:23:16 mickeyl: yes! Apr 24 12:24:52 zecke: righto Apr 24 12:25:05 "nice monotone --db=./oe.db pull $MONOTONE_SERVER org.openembedded.{dev,org.openembedded.oz354x};monotone --db=./oe.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.oz354x" works fine for the first part but fails with the checkout:"monotone: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.oz354x' is empty" Apr 24 12:25:42 org.openembedded.{dev,org.openembedded.oz354x} -> org.openembedded.{dev,oz354x} Apr 24 12:26:09 * zecke should finally call the firewall facist to be able to use monotone from here... Apr 24 12:26:26 ~seen koen Apr 24 12:26:38 koen: of courseQ Apr 24 12:26:42 koen: of course! Apr 24 12:26:44 koen is currently on #gpe (2d 3h 17m 37s) #oe (2d 3h 17m 37s). Has said a total of 225 messages. Is idling for 1m 2s, last said: 'org.openembedded.{dev,org.openembedded.oz354x} -> org.openembedded.{dev,oz354x}'. Apr 24 12:27:06 koen: hi Apr 24 12:27:18 All those brackets, I need a pair of glasses ;-) Apr 24 12:27:22 koen: pse read http://www.linux-kongress.org/2006/cfp.html perhaps you can do a talk about oe again Apr 24 12:27:44 hey greentux Apr 24 12:28:03 greentux: thanks for the link Apr 24 12:28:21 mickeyl: do we want to give an OE tutorial there? Apr 24 12:28:22 zecke: hi, a talk for you too? :) Apr 24 12:28:33 * zecke looks for places to give talks and tutorials Apr 24 12:29:09 gah, during first week of college Apr 24 12:29:23 * koen looks for next years schedule Apr 24 12:30:12 ok, should zecke do the oe talk. Apr 24 12:32:08 zecke: have you looked at guitone? Apr 24 12:32:51 koen: college? Apr 24 12:33:03 no (guitone) Apr 24 12:33:04 http://thomaskeller.biz/guitone/ Apr 24 12:33:19 zecke: the new year starts at 20060902 Apr 24 12:33:40 screenshots? Apr 24 12:34:04 ~lart fink Apr 24 12:34:05 * ibot beats fink senseless with a 50lb Unix manual Apr 24 12:34:09 haven't seen any Apr 24 12:35:15 * zecke starts compiling qt4 Apr 24 12:37:06 RP: another 1.4MB of flash saved :) Apr 24 12:37:10 (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=319393) Apr 24 12:37:45 although I don't think people are building the 'real' eds with OE Apr 24 12:38:53 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * re0d45857... 10/packages/ixp425-eth/ixp400-eth_1.5.bb: ixp425-eth: Removed the maclist patch, as insertion of the MAC address is now done through a netdev event. Apr 24 12:41:56 koen: wow one can start to use the EDS on Phones Apr 24 12:42:31 koen: together with tinyMAIL, well a Gtk+ only platform is getting more attractive day by day Apr 24 12:43:20 I know Apr 24 12:43:30 koen: hehe Apr 24 12:49:46 zecke: http://thomaskeller.biz/work/thesis/thesis_final.pdf Apr 24 12:50:47 RMS the origin of OpenSource :} Apr 24 12:51:07 JustinP: the gcc-package patch is in, so people with gcc4.x can build e stuff again in .dev Apr 24 12:51:48 How can bug 623 (package anthy) make it into openembedded? Apr 24 12:52:00 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623 Apr 24 12:52:19 Can anybody please upload? Apr 24 12:52:29 Laibsch: come to our BugDay ;) Apr 24 12:52:53 Where is it? Apr 24 12:53:06 Laibsch: see comment #2 Apr 24 12:53:08 I'd certainly like to meet you guys Apr 24 12:53:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb503225b... 10/packages/gcc/gcc-package.inc: gcc-package: apply patch form #851 to 'fix' building of gcc-4.x Apr 24 12:54:00 Laibsch: Bug Squashing Party this Friday/Saturday here on #oe Apr 24 12:54:13 Sounds like fun Apr 24 12:54:23 I will try and joing you guys. Apr 24 12:54:26 Is this weekly? Apr 24 12:54:33 I love bug squashing! Apr 24 12:55:54 koen: Good news on EDS :). Ross should be happy! Apr 24 12:56:36 RP: I think he is, I got the news form planet.closedfist.co.uk :) Apr 24 12:59:57 koen: another planet added into rss... Apr 24 13:00:15 koen: I should really read that :) Apr 24 13:00:57 RP: no kidding ;) Apr 24 13:08:24 can someone here try to bulid konqueror-embedded. I have tried with the -lts in the .bb file, but it still refuse to compile.. Apr 24 13:09:21 koen: http://www.denx.de/wiki/Training/WebHome#CourseInternals Apr 24 13:09:43 koen: I think something evil, what do you think? Apr 24 13:09:56 goxboxlive: pastebin it please, I can not build from here Apr 24 13:10:36 ok hold on. Apr 24 13:12:22 zecke: It might take a couple of minutes, because i am compiling over vnc, so i have to swithc over to ssh :-) Apr 24 13:12:41 zecke: looks like a course in JTAG Apr 24 13:13:15 goxboxlive: hehe Apr 24 13:13:34 goxboxlive: I'm extremely firewalled here... I should start to use openvpn to somehwere Apr 24 13:21:10 speaking of tunnels... Apr 24 13:21:41 zecke: Ok, here is the output ( it's bitbaked with the -lts flagg in konq--.bb file : http://pastebin.com/678764 Apr 24 13:22:51 gremlin[it], hey, you done dlding the image or you needed something else? Apr 24 13:23:07 i finish :) Apr 24 13:23:11 thanks emte :) Apr 24 13:23:32 goxboxlive: well, looks like the same error to me? Apr 24 13:24:06 okay, and it works again for you? Apr 24 13:24:17 zecke: Yes it is the same error as with not using the -lts flag Apr 24 13:24:29 goxboxlive: 'flag' Apr 24 13:24:45 goxboxlive: yes your like to the bb file was ignored (it seems) Apr 24 13:25:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r75ba732a... 10/packages/poptop/poptop_1.3.0.bb: poptop: add 1.3.0, courtesy Stelios Koroneos Apr 24 13:25:51 zecke: EXTRAFLAGS = "-lts" Apr 24 13:27:27 I'm looking for the best way to build for multiple machines (borzoi, tosa and mainstone in my case) using a single oe repository. I'll obviously need a local.conf for each machine, however is there any other things that must be seperated e.g. any build directories Apr 24 13:27:36 goxboxlive: that looks wrong anyway ;) Apr 24 13:27:50 goxboxlive: as a work around. go to that Makefile Apr 24 13:27:57 goxboxlive: and add a -lts manually Apr 24 13:28:48 zecke: But the option is there form the start. I just uncomment it. Apr 24 13:29:12 goxboxlive: it is 'wrong' nevertheless Apr 24 13:29:33 goxboxlive: one can't know that QtE is using tslib, one should not assume it Apr 24 13:29:58 ok, so i just put in -lts with no qoutes no other text? Anywhere in the ..bb file? Apr 24 13:30:08 I have entered the necessary information in bug 623 (http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623) Apr 24 13:30:28 Can anthy be included in OE now? ;-) Apr 24 13:30:46 Not that it would be immediately usable in its current form, but still. Apr 24 13:34:00 ljp: use multimachine.inc Apr 24 13:34:02 Laibsch: what is broken with it? Apr 24 13:34:21 hrw|work thanks Apr 24 13:34:31 It is not broken. Apr 24 13:34:51 But for it to be a complete input method, it would need a front end. Apr 24 13:34:58 Like imkit-anthy. Apr 24 13:35:23 There are others, too. I just lack the knowledge to hack the bb file together quickly. Apr 24 13:37:52 hrw|work: I assume i can include this in my local.conf for each machine and this will give me a seperate /stamps /work etc ? Apr 24 13:37:54 Laibsch: well, consider updating the patch as well Apr 24 13:37:57 in 2 days we can celebrate '300 days of monotone' Apr 24 13:38:14 koen: oh that young? Apr 24 13:38:14 lrg: yes Apr 24 13:38:32 lrg: have a look at http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/file.psp?id=7ef65513082d92ce2d14013905d33943baee95cb&path=contrib/buildscripts/openzaurus/build-oz.sh Apr 24 13:38:39 koen, cool this is easier than I tought :) Apr 24 13:38:39 zecke: you mean to the latest release of anthy? Apr 24 13:38:46 * koen notices enscript is suddenly working Apr 24 13:38:46 thought Apr 24 13:39:06 Laibsch: no, just entering random information isn't helping Apr 24 13:39:20 Laibsch: when I add a file from the patch tracker, I only want to add the patch Apr 24 13:39:31 Laibsch: I do not want to edit the files myself Apr 24 13:39:35 lrg: that script pokes the necessary bits in to conf/auto.conf, so you can use 1 local.conf for all machines Apr 24 13:39:36 OK, I understand. Apr 24 13:39:40 I will attach. Apr 24 13:40:09 lrg: openzaurus uses multimachine by default now Apr 24 13:40:45 koen, thanks Apr 24 13:41:01 Laibsch: as this looks to be japanese (in the patch) mentioning the encoding (e.g. UTF8) would help a lot as well Apr 24 13:41:30 OK, anything else? Apr 24 13:41:49 Let me know and I will try and update it. Apr 24 13:42:18 and if it need unicode encoding then let it be utf instead of any japanese ones Apr 24 13:45:06 and suddenly we have 50% less critical bugs in OE Apr 24 13:45:23 and some more in OZ ;) Apr 24 13:49:00 * chouimat is back. Apr 24 13:49:15 morning Apr 24 14:08:06 ~curse ipkg Apr 24 14:08:08 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, ipkg ! Apr 24 14:08:18 arch akita 46 Apr 24 14:08:36 "lists_dir ext /home/hrw/devel/build/3541/tmp/work/armv5te-linux/opie-image-1.0-r19/temp/lists/" does not mean absolute path for ipkg ;( Apr 24 14:09:32 hrw|work: id rmk's patch work? Apr 24 14:09:36 did* Apr 24 14:09:50 cr Apr 24 14:09:58 koen: no zaurus here today Apr 24 14:11:48 koen: and his patch is to get more debug infos not for getting work Apr 24 14:12:16 I see Apr 24 14:14:47 "Biology is the only science in which multiplication means the same Apr 24 14:14:47 thing as division." Apr 24 14:17:00 zecke: 17" macbook pro: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ Apr 24 14:20:43 koen: I want 12" ;) Apr 24 14:20:53 zecke: me too Apr 24 14:21:01 koen: or is a slave for carrying included? Apr 24 14:21:13 e.g. if they give me a segway for free, I might get that 17" thing Apr 24 14:21:37 wtf? Apr 24 14:21:45 ? Apr 24 14:21:46 the 17" is E200 cheaper as teh 15" Apr 24 14:22:11 2.16GHz/100GB - 7200RPM/1GB ram Apr 24 14:22:34 17": 3012,81, 15": 3224,40 Apr 24 14:23:14 (with applecare) Apr 24 14:24:08 let's hope the 12" is E2500 cheaper as the 17" Apr 24 14:24:20 if I would have ~3000 I would travel with Al... Apr 24 14:32:54 I am new to patching. Apr 24 14:34:14 Is it really necessary to have both old and new directories inside the same directory to create a good patch? That leads to clutter. I would rather keep all changes in a completely separate directory. Apr 24 14:34:57 use quilt ;) Apr 24 14:35:27 Laibsch: do like you like. but I suggest quilt Apr 24 14:35:42 quilt? Apr 24 14:35:49 I thought I needed to use diff? Apr 24 14:35:55 * Laibsch goes man quilt Apr 24 14:36:27 quilt is a tool to manage patches/whole patchsets etc Apr 24 14:37:04 quilt new my-first.patch;quilt edit file-to-change;quilt refresh == patches/my-first.patch which contain changes from file-to-change Apr 24 14:38:14 Laibsch: you can use diff directly Apr 24 14:41:11 Directly? To create a patch set for two directories? Like "LC_ALL=C TZ=UTC0 diff -Naur $PATH2OLDDIR $PATH2NEWDIR"? Won't that create problems if you include the full path? The man page of patch advises agains this which is why I asked. Apr 24 14:41:20 * Laibsch continues study of quilt Apr 24 14:41:44 koen: thanks Apr 24 14:42:19 Laibsch: your way of using diff is OK Apr 24 14:46:05 how big is / on c700/c750? Apr 24 14:46:14 hrw|work: Maybe I will stay with diff for now. But quilt does sound attractive. Apr 24 14:46:25 I will test it out briefly. Apr 24 14:48:22 Hi all Apr 24 14:48:51 What does this mean: | /usr/src/universal/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lqte ?? How can i get lqte support? Apr 24 14:49:29 hey do13 Apr 24 14:49:31 hey Dirk Apr 24 14:49:49 hey koen, lrg Apr 24 14:49:52 do13: did you see my 2nd email ? Apr 24 14:50:16 goxboxlive: giving it a -L line with the path added Apr 24 14:50:17 lrg: Yeah, this sounds better:) Apr 24 14:50:28 do13, cool Apr 24 14:51:17 do13: how big is / on tosa? Apr 24 14:53:23 hrw|work: I agree quilt is awesome and thanks to your help quite easy to use. Apr 24 14:53:41 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r60faa014... 10/classes/kernel.bbclass: kernel.bbclass: added workaround for missing module dependency: kernel-module-ieee80211-crypt += 'kernel-module-arc4' to get WEP working Apr 24 14:53:45 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8eb25908... 10/classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass: rootfs_ipk.bbclass: use tmp/lists for keeping ipkg packages lists and remove them after package install Apr 24 14:53:49 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r703c4b92... 10/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: zaurus-clamshell: moved ir-usb module to usbhost modules Apr 24 14:54:53 hrw|work: 28 meg Apr 24 14:54:58 can someone with c7x0 do one test for me? I have image to flash Apr 24 14:55:01 do13: thx Apr 24 15:06:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf0f7c074... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom: s/CVSDATE/SRCDATE/ Apr 24 15:09:04 zecke: i didnt understand that with -L . Look at this http://pastebin.com/679022 Can you explain more in detail what i should do, andwith wich file? Apr 24 15:10:11 http://oe.pastebin.com/679028 Apr 24 15:10:38 goxboxlive: those are 'linker' flags Apr 24 15:11:06 goxboxlive: -l links to a library Apr 24 15:11:18 goxboxlive: -L says where to look for that lib Apr 24 15:12:10 hrw|work: yes, that's the correct way to generate summed images for c7x0 Apr 24 15:12:13 ~lart sharp Apr 24 15:12:13 * ibot pulls out his louisville slugger and uses sharp's head to break the homerun record Apr 24 15:13:19 koen: akita use header too or not? (I do not remember) Apr 24 15:14:27 Might be a bit off-topic. But I have two or three files left-over from previous OE build which completely refuse to be rm'ed:"# rm -Rf /usr/src/openembedded/work.old/ Apr 24 15:14:27 rm: cannot remove `/usr/src/openembedded/work.old//native-linux/libtool-native-1.5.10-r3/libtool-1.5.10/tests/tagdemo-shared.test': Operation not permitted" How can that be? Apr 24 15:16:10 sounds like the permissions are bad Apr 24 15:16:31 But I a root! Apr 24 15:16:37 But I am root! Apr 24 15:17:00 your point being> Apr 24 15:17:01 ? Apr 24 15:17:06 Laibsch: filesystem fscked? Apr 24 15:17:57 Yes. But I will do that again next time. Apr 24 15:18:15 CosmicPenguin: As root I should be able to delete any file. Apr 24 15:18:19 cya Apr 24 15:18:44 Laibsch: no, 'chattr +i ' removes that privilege Apr 24 15:18:56 or fscked filesystem Apr 24 15:19:28 koen: Does any of the OE stuff ever do that? Apr 24 15:19:51 Laibsch: OE not, packages makefiles can... Apr 24 15:21:07 It seems like koen's hint was right. After chattr -i I was able to delete that sucker. Is that really necessary or is it bug to use chattr +i with OE? Apr 24 15:21:41 what do you think? Apr 24 15:21:56 I would think it is a bug. Apr 24 15:22:18 But then again I do not know what it might be needed for. Apr 24 15:22:30 I do not know about chattr. Have not used it so far. Apr 24 15:22:58 cu Apr 24 15:23:12 So if you have never had reason to use it to build anything before, then you must assume that it was probably a mistake to require it this time Apr 24 15:23:26 Laibsch: I use chattr on my resolv.conf to avoid dhclient overwriting it Apr 24 15:23:50 koen: configure dhclient to not update dns then ;) Apr 24 15:24:06 too much trouble Apr 24 15:24:11 use unionfs and mount a ramfs over it Apr 24 15:24:12 :) Apr 24 15:24:19 and it saves me from idiots with root as well Apr 24 15:24:22 i.e. me Apr 24 15:27:26 evening Apr 24 15:29:07 OK, bug 903 it is. Apr 24 15:31:29 ...I'll ask here as well. What is the monotone branch for familiar 0.8.4? still oz354fam083? Apr 24 15:32:31 yes Apr 24 15:32:43 allright, just had to make sure. :) Apr 24 15:56:33 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6f4bee6f... 10/packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_0.25.bb: gpe-filemanager: Adjust recommended vfs plugins. Apr 24 15:56:37 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9196568e... 10/packages/meta/gpe-image.bb: gpe-image: Replace sylpheed with vlc-gpe which is big as well but is supposed to work on QVGA PDAs in contrast to Sylpheed. Apr 24 15:57:20 How can I have quilt apply its patches to a subdirectory instead of the working directory? Apr 24 15:57:44 I guess I want the opposite of the strip command. Apr 24 15:59:50 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rfd21124c... 10/packages/gnome/ (gnome-vfs-dbus/werror_compile.patch gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb): gnome-vfs-dbus: Make compile again, add missing patch. Apr 24 15:59:54 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r54294995... 10/packages/libeventdb/libeventdb_cvs.bb: libeventdb: Add cvs version. Apr 24 15:59:58 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r5abdf304... 10/packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_cvs.bb: gpe-calendar: Update cvs bb version. Apr 24 16:00:02 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r095485c1... 10/packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_0.25.bb: gpe-filemanager: Adjust recommended vfs plugins. Apr 24 16:56:20 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc202b264... 10/packages/vde/vde_2.0.2.bb: vde: add vde2 2.0.2, a virtual network that can be spawned over a set of physical computer over the Internet Apr 24 17:00:44 zecke: Coming back to bug 623 and encoding. Should I just mention the enconding of the files in the bug report? Or should I include it somehow in the diff (if so, how?)? Apr 24 17:01:06 Oh, zecke seems to be gone. Anyone know the answer? Apr 24 17:12:41 * chouimat is away: boring stuff Apr 24 17:55:03 ~praise RP for the charging code on the poodle!! Apr 24 17:55:05 All hail RP for the charging code on the poodle!!! Apr 24 18:00:25 ~praise RP for suspend/resume on the poodle!! Apr 24 18:00:27 All hail RP for suspend/resume on the poodle!!! Apr 24 18:03:13 * JustinP just hopes that suspend isn't actually broken on the spitz.....my first test with the new kernel wouldn't suspend Apr 24 18:03:48 I'm getting this on .dev --> http://pastebin.com/679401 Apr 24 18:04:41 can't find gtk-webcore 20060212 from oesources and sf cvs is down... Apr 24 18:05:40 cedric__: yep, pretty much.... Apr 24 18:06:20 cedric__: check http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sources/ Apr 24 18:06:30 that contains some cvs stuff Apr 24 18:06:34 koen: you beat me, I was going to point him there ;-) Apr 24 18:07:02 I'm not sure if it's in there, though Apr 24 18:22:04 wow my physics 'teacher' is a jedi Apr 24 18:23:41 his lsaer-sable moving made me feel dizzy Apr 24 18:23:56 can he do handwaving as well? Apr 24 18:24:03 *waves hand* Apr 24 18:24:09 "you will fail this course" Apr 24 18:24:34 I wish teachers would stop doing that Apr 24 18:24:39 koen: no, worst lecturer I have been to Apr 24 18:24:53 koen: where is the point in pointin with a laser pointer to a clock/watch Apr 24 18:25:14 koen: where is the point is making a circle (within a second) around a box on his slides Apr 24 18:25:21 he should fucking use uncover for that Apr 24 18:28:14 heh Apr 24 18:28:40 koen: I'm about to write him :} Apr 24 18:29:00 koen: I have been to bad and talk talks, but this one made me feel bad Apr 24 18:29:26 I just walk out of bad talks Apr 24 18:29:37 during the coffee break Apr 24 18:29:50 koen: yeah, it was good that I was there Apr 24 18:29:54 if they are really bad I don't even wait for those Apr 24 18:30:01 koen: my 'tutorium' was cancelled :} Apr 24 18:31:09 we have an e-learning system for those announcements Apr 24 18:31:28 which I always forget to check Apr 24 18:33:17 ah, TI mexico now has a board running OE built packages :) Apr 24 18:33:23 * koen loves good news Apr 24 18:46:05 hey mreimer Apr 24 18:46:21 hey koen Apr 24 18:46:42 koen: how's angstrom treating you? Apr 24 18:49:20 mreimer: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/angstrom/unstable/images/ Apr 24 18:49:37 koen: emphasis on "unstable"? Apr 24 18:49:43 yes Apr 24 18:49:50 the new kdrive is unstable as hell Apr 24 18:50:04 combine that with eabi teething problems... Apr 24 18:51:08 it's going to be a rough road, but worth it Apr 24 19:00:10 Zecke: At last i managed to build my opie-image again. This time i shall not update my dev branch, never again :-) Thanks a lot for your help ( also to you other guys who contribute) Apr 24 19:01:04 mreimer: jffs2 generation seems to be broken for h2200 in .dev Apr 24 19:01:15 goxboxlive: use the power of monotone Apr 24 19:01:22 goxboxlive: once working tag it, branch it ;) Apr 24 19:02:02 koen: maybe it needs --no-cleanmarkers like .oz354fam083 h2200.conf does Apr 24 19:02:22 mkfs.jffs2 bails outs with the help message Apr 24 19:04:23 JustinP/Koen: thx Apr 24 19:05:40 mreimer: conf/machine/h2200.conf.orig:EXTRA_IMAGECMD_h2200_jffs2 = "--pad --no-cleanmarkers --pagesize=512 --eraseblock=16384" Apr 24 19:05:50 mreimer: I think -e needs hex Apr 24 19:06:53 0x10000? Apr 24 19:06:54 koen: from .oz354fam083: EXTRA_IMAGECMD_jffs2_h2200 = "--pad --no-cleanmarkers --eraseblock=16384" Apr 24 19:07:00 koen: 0x1000 Apr 24 19:07:12 koen: err, 0x4000 Apr 24 19:07:21 koen: omit pagesie Apr 24 19:07:36 yes, I pasted the wwrong file Apr 24 19:07:39 koen: I know .oz354fam083 h2200.conf is good Apr 24 19:07:58 .dev has the same and breaks Apr 24 19:08:07 (newer mtd-utils) Apr 24 19:08:41 ah Apr 24 19:09:49 once it works I'll add sumtool support Apr 24 19:12:09 koen: don't bother adding sumtool support for h2200. I generated a sumtool image once but it increased the size of the image by about 6M. Evidently it doesn't work well with small page NAND Apr 24 19:14:35 http://handhelds.org/hypermail/angstrom-dev/0/0050.html Apr 24 19:24:32 koen: I think ARM kernels are currently broken under EABI if they use enums that userspace sees. I've just posted to lakml about it... Apr 24 19:24:59 great Apr 24 19:28:17 * koen waits for gmane nntp to catch up Apr 24 19:30:02 "he EABI defines an optional system for controlling the size of C enumerated types. For arm-linux it was decided to keep the existing behaviour (enums are at least the same size as an int) for consistency with other Linux systems." Apr 24 19:30:17 is the kernel messing that up? Apr 24 19:30:36 koen: yes Apr 24 19:31:49 koen: I've sent a proposed fix to the arm mailing list. Basically s/aapcs/aapcs-linux/ in the arm Makefile Apr 24 19:32:01 ah, gmane has it now Apr 24 19:32:25 it would be so cool if git and monotone could import sed commands :) Apr 24 19:33:00 -CFLAGS_ABI :=-mabi=aapcs -mno-thumb-interwork Apr 24 19:33:00 +CFLAGS_ABI :=-mabi=aapcs-linux -mno-thumb-interwork Apr 24 19:33:22 thumb-interwork would be nice for the kernelsize Apr 24 19:35:51 koen: One step at a time ;-) Apr 24 19:37:29 koen: did I tell you about the latest LAB change I made, so we don't need a labrun file? Apr 24 19:37:49 DTRT? Apr 24 19:38:12 Do The Right Thing Apr 24 19:38:47 that lets us have one kernel that can boot from any media, rather than having to have separate zImages for each kind of media, or labrun files Apr 24 19:39:07 labrun is still useful for tweaking args or mounting rootfs from media different from the media the kernel was loaded from Apr 24 19:40:23 it was to be expected Apr 24 19:40:40 I just nailed SRCDATE down to today in angstrom Apr 24 19:40:51 I guess I'll have to move it to tomorrow :) Apr 24 19:41:05 koen: :-) sorry 'bout that Apr 24 19:49:42 koen: Have I understood correctly that EABI is somekind of binary compatibility method for C/C++? How is it better than the previous C/C++ binary compatibility apis that has been in gcc. I mean are there now really changes that the binaries would stay compatible between gcc versions? Apr 24 19:50:09 it's not about c++ Apr 24 19:50:18 it's more about floating point stuff: http://wiki.debian.org/ArmEabiPort Apr 24 19:53:43 * chouimat is back. Apr 24 19:54:45 ok... So mixing soft and hard floating point code. Are you seeing alignment problems with angstrom and EABI packages? Apr 24 19:55:02 yes Apr 24 19:55:27