**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 27 10:00:00 2006 Apr 27 10:00:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9e58a32d... 10/packages/linux/ (handhelds-pxa-2.6/eabi-enums.patch handhelds-pxa-2.6_cvs.bb): hh-pxa 2.6 cvs: add patch to fix enums problems with eabi Apr 27 10:17:04 weird Apr 27 10:17:22 suddenly my card is eth0 instead of wlan0 after reflashing the same image and kernel Apr 27 10:17:54 orinoco instead of hostap Apr 27 10:18:01 common problem with 2.6+pcmciautils Apr 27 10:23:56 I've just commented that they're not up to the standards I'm trying to keep the linux-openzaurus tree to... Apr 27 10:23:59 * RP shrugs Apr 27 10:24:10 koen: I'll add that patch Apr 27 10:24:41 RP: donate money to him, he might forgive you Apr 27 10:25:53 I can't understand you're problem with donations it's not like they ask money before download or anything Apr 27 10:26:07 and sashz surely is not becoming rich with donations Apr 27 10:26:31 pgas: I have none ;) Apr 27 10:26:41 pgas: sorry for the misunderstanding then Apr 27 10:27:07 pgas: if sash would actually be doing all the work, I can understand, but right now RP is doing all the work for him Apr 27 10:27:16 and we only get complaints back Apr 27 10:27:25 (and crappy patches) Apr 27 10:27:30 pgas: e.g. I know RP is easy to work with Apr 27 10:27:40 pgas: so I can't understand sahz's comments Apr 27 10:28:13 I'll reply to that thread explaining my position... Apr 27 10:28:23 koen: what you can't understand? Apr 27 10:29:02 foolish kindergarten games Apr 27 10:29:15 Russell is stupid he does not like my patches :) Apr 27 10:29:31 where does he said that? Apr 27 10:29:44 zecke: yes! and he has stupid mail system which ignore our mails Apr 27 10:29:45 pgas: Once I first submitted my patches to russel, he turned them down. one has to live with that :) Apr 27 10:30:40 pgas: and to say it like this. I'm fine with people accepting and requesting donations Apr 27 10:31:41 RP: would you be interested in a bootchart on a c700? Apr 27 10:32:47 Isn't what he said so far (one line..I don't know what has happened privately) exactly what has happened? Apr 27 10:32:55 koen: yes Apr 27 10:33:04 btw RP can you PM your slow mail address Apr 27 10:33:23 RP: running it now :) Apr 27 10:42:14 RP: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/files/bootchart.tgz Apr 27 10:42:24 RP: I'm generating a report right now Apr 27 10:43:18 g'day all Apr 27 10:43:27 hey rwhitby Apr 27 10:44:36 anyone know where we're at in the 2.6.17 kernel patches cycle at the moment? Apr 27 10:44:37 hi rwhitby Apr 27 10:44:57 rwhitby: -rc3 due any day now Apr 27 10:44:59 (i.e. when's a good time to start pushing our nslu2-linux patches that depend on RTC and LEDS?) Apr 27 10:45:30 rc3 was released already Apr 27 10:45:52 So rmk won't be accepting any new stuff until 2.6.17 is released now, right? Apr 27 10:46:10 RP: the result as SVG: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/blog/bootchart.svgz Apr 27 10:53:24 koen: I'll have to look later - too busy atm, sorry :-( Apr 27 10:53:46 RP: replied? Apr 27 10:58:41 koen: I have finally busted fink :} Apr 27 11:00:24 rwhitby: correct. You'll have to wait until the final -rc or the actualy release, then action stations Apr 27 11:00:42 hrw|work: No. 20 things at once... Apr 27 11:00:54 RP: thx Apr 27 11:00:59 RP: happens Apr 27 11:02:33 koen: how long did it take to boot? Apr 27 11:02:50 hrw|work: replied Apr 27 11:05:33 nice thx Apr 27 11:07:37 zecke: long, as is expected on a pxa250 with swap on sd Apr 27 11:07:44 zecke: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/blog/pyblosxom.cgi/2006/Apr/27 Apr 27 11:13:43 http://www.flickr.com/photos/urubatan/133534393/ Apr 27 11:16:44 http://www.flickr.com/photos/pandacam/134471904/ Apr 27 11:17:09 I wonder how much browser will get sick over 10kpix wide .png :) Apr 27 11:19:28 koen: at least the CPU was utilized 100%? Apr 27 11:21:43 zecke: probably swapping like crazy to sd Apr 27 11:41:38 zecke: the next commit is dedicated to you :) Apr 27 11:43:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rac0211db... 10/packages/bootchart/bootchart_0.9.bb: Apr 27 11:43:10 bootchart 0.9: add the device part of bootchart, a neat way to view the boot process of your favourite device. Apr 27 11:43:10 read the recipe on how to use it Apr 27 11:44:03 ~lart bugzilla for bugs output being nonconfigurable Apr 27 11:44:04 * ibot hereby declares bugzilla a troll for bugs output being nonconfigurable Apr 27 11:44:05 I'd be interested in bootcharts on non broken devices Apr 27 11:44:25 e.g !corgi and !poodle and !5000d Apr 27 11:47:45 zecke: new kismac: http://kismac.de/ Apr 27 11:51:35 koen: well, I think passive scanning is still not working Apr 27 11:52:31 koen: oh it has passive scanning Apr 27 11:52:32 wow Apr 27 11:53:13 zecke: that's why I mentioned it :) Apr 27 11:53:28 (and because it has google earth integration) Apr 27 11:53:46 koen: hopefully they rewrote kismac with Qt then Apr 27 11:53:58 koen: would be more easy to port it to Qt4/X11 then Apr 27 12:00:45 hmm Apr 27 12:01:10 AirPort: can't allocate contiguous below 0x40000000 Apr 27 12:01:14 hmm /me restarts Apr 27 12:06:57 fsck.. commited in wrong branch Apr 27 12:12:13 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/angstrom/unstable/images/tosa/ Apr 27 12:17:03 koen: The modules worked? Apr 27 12:17:47 RP: it seems to Apr 27 12:19:18 koen: So no idea what went wrong? :-/ Apr 27 12:19:32 I removed parallel-install-modules... Apr 27 12:19:45 * koen tries to build an opie-image Apr 27 12:20:13 * koen waits for embootchart to go public Apr 27 12:23:56 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r485683f6... 10/packages/ntp/ntp_4.2.0.bb: ntp: fixed SRC_URI - close #906 Apr 27 12:24:05 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r888bba9e... 10/packages/ntp/ntp_4.2.0.bb: ntp: fixed SRC_URI - close #906 Apr 27 12:33:46 zecke: bitbake 1.4.0 works GREAT with .oz354x Apr 27 12:35:15 nice to hear Apr 27 12:36:07 who maintain bluez in OE? Apr 27 12:36:25 other then 'noone' Apr 27 12:37:03 team opie is responsible for the -nodbus stuff Apr 27 12:38:06 hrw|work: you after your next chickin :-) Apr 27 12:38:38 XorA: no fscking way - no BT hardware for Z here Apr 27 12:38:44 my bt cf card died Apr 27 12:39:00 hrw|work: btw meant to ask, any luck with your IR keyboard? Apr 27 12:39:37 no time Apr 27 12:42:14 * koen starts merging #870 Apr 27 12:42:56 hey tnb Apr 27 12:43:16 tnb: opie cvs now has ODevice support for hx4700 Apr 27 12:47:09 hi koen Apr 27 12:47:28 cool :) Apr 27 12:50:41 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r52eb706e... 10/packages/bluez/ (3 files): bluez-utils: enabled hid2hci and USB support Apr 27 12:50:46 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfe043c1a... 10/packages/bluez/ (4 files): bluez: drop 2.20 Apr 27 12:58:15 koen: can you build hostap-modules 0.4.7 against 2.6.16/tosa? Apr 27 13:00:30 hrw|work: NOTE: package hostap-modules-0.4.7-r4: task do_build: completed Apr 27 13:00:49 thx Apr 27 13:01:29 speaking of hostap Apr 27 13:01:43 is hostap-daemon missing a DEPENDS on openssl? Apr 27 13:01:57 In file included from ieee802_1x.c:34: Apr 27 13:01:58 md5.h:20:25: openssl/md5.h: No such file or directory Apr 27 13:02:25 * rwhitby is slowly getting wireless working on the nas100d Apr 27 13:02:31 rwhitby: can you look into .oz354x changes? Apr 27 13:03:10 hrw|work: We don't even sync .oz354x Apr 27 13:03:21 ok.. missing this depend too Apr 27 13:04:05 * koen is building hrw's favourite package Apr 27 13:04:38 NOTE: package twm-1.0.1: completed Apr 27 13:04:39 hrw|work: are you adding that depends? I don't want to be editing the same file as you and need to do a manual merge. Apr 27 13:05:20 koen: cool! default wm for angstrom is now in OE :) Apr 27 13:05:30 rwhitby: add it Apr 27 13:06:38 koen: shouldnt all those GPE related bugs be moved to hh.org bugtracker? Apr 27 13:06:59 hrw|work: no idea Apr 27 13:07:01 887 888 889 891 Apr 27 13:07:14 hrw|work: in hh.org bugtracker we can't close them since they affect familiar Apr 27 13:07:30 hrw|work: or 'some people' will close them because they are oz bugs Apr 27 13:09:14 and if I will close them (as invalid) with note 'report them in gpe' then someone will tell me that I did it wrong Apr 27 13:09:29 probably Apr 27 13:09:44 I'd ignore them Apr 27 13:11:23 hrw|work: added DEPENDS="openssl" Apr 27 13:11:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc26ba72c... 10/packages/openttd/openttd_0.4.0.bb: openttd: ship some more files, fixed paths - look #904 Apr 27 13:11:42 rwhitby: ok - I'm not hostap maintainer Apr 27 13:12:21 mickey|tv: added DEPENDS="openssl" to hostap-daemon.inc Apr 27 13:13:01 btw, the monotone syncer is offline right now Apr 27 13:15:59 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re368307c... 10/conf/machine/jornada6xx.conf: jornada6xx: fix TARGET_ARCH to 'sh' - close #892 Apr 27 13:27:16 morning Apr 27 13:28:16 hi chouimat Apr 27 13:36:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r05c505d1... 10/packages/xlibs/ (liblbxutil-1.0.0/mkg3states.patch liblbxutil_1.0.0.bb): liblbxutils: start merging stuff from #870 Apr 27 13:37:00 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9a9b8859... 10/packages/xlibs/libxkbui_1.0.1.bb: libxkbui: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:04 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra7e31405... 10/packages/xlibs/libxxf86misc_1.0.0.bb: libxxf86misc: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r27ff1d30... 10/packages/x11-apps/ (app-common.inc bdftopcf_1.0.0.bb): bdftopcf: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra7a25d47... 10/packages/x11-apps/iceauth_1.0.1.bb: iceauth: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5e5f8550... 10/packages/x11-apps/mkfontscale_1.0.1.bb: mkfontscale: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:21 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7441b040... 10/packages/x11-apps/mkfontdir_1.0.1.bb: mkfontdir: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf99ae356... 10/packages/x11-apps/rgb_1.0.0.bb: rgb: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5f5b2866... 10/packages/x11-apps/twm_1.0.1.bb: twm: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * refda3f90... 10/packages/x11-apps/xauth_1.0.1.bb: xauth: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:37 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7134dba3... 10/packages/x11-apps/xeyes_1.0.1.bb: xeyes: merge from #870 Apr 27 13:37:42 * koen merges Apr 27 13:42:29 s/x11-apps/xorg-apps/ Apr 27 13:42:39 gnumeric is x11 app too Apr 27 13:48:34 koen: you have gcc4 builddir - can you rebuild /tmp/kdepimpi/kdepimpi_2.2.5.bb and /tmp/kdepimpi/pwmpi_2.2.5.bb on ewi (in that order)? Apr 27 13:50:52 hrw|work: why are apps specific to xorg? Apr 27 13:51:27 did they fork the protocol? Apr 27 13:51:41 #894 how can this happen without sticking a finger in the arse? Apr 27 13:51:55 luke-jr_: twm is part of x.org Apr 27 13:52:26 zecke: someone will rm wrong file for example Apr 27 13:52:33 hrw|work: ah, so it's not "apps for x.org", it's "apps included with x.org" :) Apr 27 13:52:39 luke-jr_: yep Apr 27 13:52:52 luke-jr_: or even 'apps included in x.org' Apr 27 13:53:03 hrw|work: blame Gentoo for my misunderstanding :) Apr 27 13:53:09 hrw|work: well... Apr 27 13:57:52 man Apr 27 13:58:02 kde pimp is still compiling Apr 27 13:58:10 must be all the bling that makes it heavy Apr 27 13:58:32 koen: ~30m Apr 27 13:58:49 ~dict bling Apr 27 13:58:52 could not find definition for bling Apr 27 13:59:29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bling Apr 27 14:00:04 root Apr 27 14:00:05 gracias Apr 27 14:01:02 hrw|work: what if someone removes or creates a stamp and then configure files? Apr 27 14:01:09 hrw|work: is that bitbake bug as well? Apr 27 14:01:35 :} Apr 27 14:05:03 ok so i now figured my boost problems .. which of course where home made Apr 27 14:05:57 now i took the oe.db.bz2 , got rid off my very old .dev directory and did a pull ... but now i want to a checkout and it says it has multiple heads ! any hints Apr 27 14:06:11 rob_w|mis: monotone merge Apr 27 14:06:13 rob_w|mis: sleect one Apr 27 14:06:20 pull again Apr 27 14:06:35 ok koen i pull again Apr 27 14:07:06 ok sucessfull exchange Apr 27 14:07:52 now checkout ? like monotone --db=OE.db checkout --branch=org.openembedded.dev Apr 27 14:09:15 hmm still it says: monotone missuse : branch has multiple heads ?!? Apr 27 14:09:16 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r74bbc498... 10/packages/nfs-utils/nfs-utils_1.0.6.bb: nfs-utils: disable PARALLEL_MAKE - close #845 Apr 27 14:09:20 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra6368c2a... 10/packages/nfs-utils/ (files/nfsserver nfs-utils_1.0.6.bb): nfs-utils: updated to .dev version Apr 27 14:09:24 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9f500cdc... 10/packages/nfs-utils/nfs-utils_1.0.6.bb: nfs-utils: disable PARALLEL_MAKE - close #845 Apr 27 14:11:19 ok merge does something Apr 27 14:12:56 hrw|work: NOTE: package kdepimpi-2.2.5: completed Apr 27 14:13:10 koen: thx Apr 27 14:13:13 cya Apr 27 14:13:45 hrw|work: pwmwmwmewmmwempi is building now Apr 27 14:14:31 hrw|work: NOTE: package pwmpi-2.2.5-r1: task do_build: completed Apr 27 14:14:52 cool Apr 27 14:19:54 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf4d24bf2... 10/packages/kdepimpi/ (files/gcc4.patch kdepimpi_2.2.5.bb pwmpi.inc): kdepimpi: added patches from #848 Apr 27 14:19:58 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r0248315b... 10/packages/kdepimpi/ (files/gcc4.patch kdepimpi_2.2.7.bb pwmpi.inc): kdepimpi: added patches from #848 Apr 27 14:33:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r060d9460... 10/packages/mesa/mesa_6.4.1+cvs20060101.bb: mesa: merge 6.4.1 from #870 Apr 27 14:34:41 koen: can you check DEPENDS of gemdropx from .dev? Apr 27 14:35:22 anthy does not build, although mickey|tv claimed it build for him. http://rafb.net/paste/results/j8VS6936.html Apr 27 14:35:36 see bug 632 Apr 27 14:36:07 Laibsch: update your repo Apr 27 14:36:12 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-fonts$ ls ../anthy/ Apr 27 14:36:13 anthy-native_6801.bb anthy_6801.bb files Apr 27 14:36:39 ah wait Apr 27 14:36:45 the usual mickeyl dep loop Apr 27 14:37:07 yes, I think so. I did copy it the native stuff over, IIRC Apr 27 14:37:28 Repo should be up2date within a few hours. Apr 27 14:37:37 Status from about noon. Apr 27 14:37:39 CET Apr 27 14:38:33 'a few hours' is ancient with OE ;) Apr 27 14:39:22 Life is too fast-paced. Sigh ;-) Apr 27 14:39:38 It took me a couple of hours for the initial build, so please forgive me ;-) Apr 27 14:40:18 Indeed, 34 new revs in. you guys are pumpin' 'em out like crazy. Apr 27 14:41:42 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra4209d7a... 10/packages/gemdropx/gemdropx_0.9.bb: gemdropx: added libsdl-image into DEPENDS Apr 27 14:41:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r22671698... 10/packages/xorg-fonts/ (5 files): font-alias, font-cursor-misc font-misc-misc, font-util: merge from #870 Apr 27 14:41:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5a6bba87... 10/packages/anthy/anthy-native_6801.bb: anthy-native: break dep-loop Apr 27 14:41:57 Laibsch: there you go Apr 27 14:41:59 Thanks kone Apr 27 14:42:03 Thanks koen Apr 27 14:42:05 oops Apr 27 14:43:59 hrm Apr 27 14:44:04 the xorg stuff builds again Apr 27 14:48:22 hey CoreDump|work Apr 27 14:48:54 hi coredump Apr 27 14:49:10 hi hrw|work Apr 27 14:51:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8c7a203e... 10/packages/x11-apps/xclock_1.0.1.bb: xclock: merge from #870 Apr 27 14:51:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r48171551... 10/packages/x11-apps/xinit_1.0.1.bb: xinit: merge from #870 Apr 27 14:51:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r199eb2ee... 10/packages/x11-apps/xkbcomp_1.0.1.bb: xkbcomp: merge from #870 Apr 27 14:51:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rff69e782... 10/packages/xorg-data/ (data-common.inc xbitmaps_1.0.1.bb xkbdata_1.0.1.bb): xorg-date: merge from #870 Apr 27 14:52:46 ok, guys, I'm leaving until Sunday. Take care and behave ;) c'ya Apr 27 14:54:12 have fun mickey|weekend Apr 27 15:00:04 mickey|weekend: have fun Apr 27 15:01:06 cu all Apr 27 15:01:10 gym today... Apr 27 15:06:52 CosmicPenguin: I can't get the xserver from #870 to work, could you attach your versions? Apr 27 15:08:00 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r718895e3... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Demoted pwc as it fails to build. Apr 27 15:08:05 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r3f0a9654... 10/packages/hostap/hostap-daemon.inc: hostap-daemon: Added DEPENDS=openssl for openssl/md5.h build requirement. Apr 27 15:08:09 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rd8df52a5... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Demoted qc-usb-messenger as it fails to build. Apr 27 15:08:13 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * rf0eb2ff6... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Demoted ircp from ucslugc as it fails to build. Apr 27 15:10:22 koen: sure thing Apr 27 15:11:48 CosmicPenguin: thanks Apr 27 15:12:13 hi koen and cosmic Apr 27 15:12:47 hey woglinde Apr 27 15:16:20 .dev has multiple heads Apr 27 15:16:41 laibsch hm mine not Apr 27 15:16:54 when did you last update? Apr 27 15:17:04 30 min ago Apr 27 15:17:13 I did about 15 minutes ago ;-) Apr 27 15:17:24 No, 1 minute ago Apr 27 15:17:46 just before calling monotone update Apr 27 15:18:29 hm Apr 27 15:18:36 I feel lucky Apr 27 15:21:03 try pulling now Apr 27 15:21:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raa6f9aaa... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: use qte-mt Apr 27 15:22:53 koen: Thank you. I will. Apr 27 15:32:17 NOTE: package konqueror-embedded-20060404-r2: task do_compile: started Apr 27 15:32:19 finally Apr 27 15:32:54 good work! Apr 27 15:33:17 it's zecke's and mickeyl's work Apr 27 15:33:21 I wonder if I will like it on my PDA. I never liked it on the Desktop Apr 27 15:33:37 hail zecke, hail mickeyl! Apr 27 15:34:05 laibsch there is no alternative Apr 27 15:34:25 if you use opie, that is Apr 27 15:34:45 I see. Apr 27 15:34:57 anthy still bitches around. Apr 27 15:34:59 :-\ Apr 27 15:35:24 koen what is it on gpe? Apr 27 15:35:29 opera? Apr 27 15:36:08 woglinde: firefox, minimo, gpe-mini-browser, web, dillo2, links -g, dillo Apr 27 15:36:11 and probably more Apr 27 15:36:29 hm firefox on an embbed device? Apr 27 15:36:42 still minimo is to big Apr 27 15:36:48 sounds crazy doesn't it Apr 27 15:36:52 'embedded' Apr 27 15:37:05 600MHz devices with a vga display and 6GB of HD Apr 27 15:37:23 My laptop only has 600 MHz Apr 27 15:37:26 ;-) Apr 27 15:37:33 * XorA remebers when embedded was a 2Mhz PIC with 32 bytes of ram Apr 27 15:37:42 It is quite sufficient, but RAM is tight. Apr 27 15:37:47 the first laptop I used was 20 MHz or something Apr 27 15:37:49 That is why I upgraded it Apr 27 15:38:04 koen: Was that an Internet PC? Apr 27 15:38:05 ;-) Apr 27 15:38:15 heh Apr 27 15:38:25 *g* Apr 27 15:41:57 * chouimat is away: lunch time Apr 27 15:45:39 how i can include packages at build image time with mask selection like libxine-plugin-* ? if i add to INSTALL_PACKAGES it doesn't work. Apr 27 15:47:48 :v libmjpegtools -v 2006 Apr 27 15:48:05 wrong chan, sorry... Apr 27 15:50:05 bonne nuit Apr 27 15:52:55 hmfn Apr 27 15:54:15 koen: is there a quick fix to make konq configure? Apr 27 15:54:45 raduga: depends on your DISTRO Apr 27 15:54:53 .dev? Apr 27 15:54:55 it works out of the box with angstrom :) Apr 27 15:54:58 er. akita? Apr 27 15:54:59 oh :) Apr 27 15:55:18 [2~| checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 2.2.2) (library qte-mt) not found. Please check your installation! Apr 27 15:56:03 raduga: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/getdiff.py?id1=ff69e782c20a0704ee33d9057834c0b39112e72c&id2=aa6f9aaabdcd4ae0fc3588b296bfb909b1deb0fa Apr 27 15:56:04 oh, oops Apr 27 15:56:19 koen: unmet dependency. i've got it rolling now Apr 27 15:56:57 (it already built libqt. i couldn't see why it was complaining) Apr 27 15:57:12 manually baking qte-mt now Apr 27 15:58:17 koen: unfortunately, one of my strongest motivations for switching back to OZ (from pdaX) evaporated overnight ;) Apr 27 15:58:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf5cd7ec0... 10/packages/linux/ (ep93xx-kernel/eabi-enums.patch ep93xx-kernel_2.6.16.bb): ep93xx 2.6.16: apply eabi enums patch Apr 27 15:58:35 i've been really itching to try UQM, since it supposedly builds/runs on OZ now Apr 27 15:58:47 (I can't get it to build for pdaXrom) Apr 27 15:58:54 but last night someone posted an ipk Apr 27 15:59:08 koen: That patch is on my site btw (always has been) Apr 27 15:59:19 RP: ah, I missed that Apr 27 16:00:37 raduga: a working kernel 2.6 install is still nice to have Apr 27 16:01:27 yes :) Apr 27 16:01:29 koen: .bbs attached to 870 Apr 27 16:01:30 good luck Apr 27 16:01:38 CosmicPenguin: thanks again Apr 27 16:01:48 2.6 has alsa working? Apr 27 16:02:02 yes Apr 27 16:02:08 (in general. I realise there are some hardware specific issues) Apr 27 16:02:11 good:) Apr 27 16:02:23 with nice tricks like auto switching to headphone when you insert them Apr 27 16:02:34 has anyone tried timidity with alsa seq support? Apr 27 16:02:43 is it at all useable, or just... awful? Apr 27 16:03:16 (timidity running as a daemon, providing an alsa sequencer device) Apr 27 16:03:29 my main problem with timidity right now, is the horrible start up delay. Apr 27 16:03:55 if it was persistent, maybe the delay would be less. Apr 27 16:05:08 koen: when things are a little more stable, I would really like to keep a dual boot, with pdaXrom for playing games, and other bleeding edge idiocies, and OZ for actually getting work done Apr 27 16:05:26 if that can ever be a reality Apr 27 16:05:27 heh Apr 27 16:05:33 pdaX 'bleeding edge'? Apr 27 16:05:46 koen: you deny that they are bleeding? Apr 27 16:05:48 or bloody? Apr 27 16:05:57 Why doesn't OZ play games? Apr 27 16:06:00 the 'edge' may be questionable Apr 27 16:06:24 RP: pdaXrom X server is (at the moment) a little faster Apr 27 16:06:35 and in the times I've tried it, more stable than GPE's Apr 27 16:06:56 RP: with proper acceleration, that becomes less an issue Apr 27 16:07:10 acceleration will happen... Apr 27 16:07:11 I bet 2.6 + kdrive beats the hell out of 2.4 + xfree Apr 27 16:07:25 koen: i will be happy if it will Apr 27 16:07:42 koen: and my NAND will get a little less wear from reflashing Apr 27 16:07:45 raduga: I'd try it as the other speedups we have in OZ will probably more than make up for it Apr 27 16:08:00 RP: i try both. :) switch every few months Apr 27 16:08:34 RP: my last build of .dev was 2006/01/30 Apr 27 16:08:57 raduga: try to flash oz3541 RC1 Apr 27 16:08:57 raduga: Which device? Apr 27 16:09:13 koen: better that, than the .dev ? Apr 27 16:09:17 koen: rmk has request people test a patch series... Apr 27 16:09:27 RP: the irq ones? Apr 27 16:09:33 koen: yes Apr 27 16:09:34 RP: akita Apr 27 16:09:51 tglx has the roughly same board board as I have Apr 27 16:10:06 i tried the oz354 RC (with 2.4) and 20060130 .dev (with 2.6) Apr 27 16:10:30 sound was semi-broken at the time (fixed by now i think) Apr 27 16:10:41 raduga: We've probably improved a few things since then, esp. the sound. As koen said, try the latest OZ 3451-rc Apr 27 16:11:01 koen: I'm wondering about the Zaurii... Apr 27 16:11:13 RP: you recommend the RC, instead of building my own .dev tree? Apr 27 16:11:42 Is this thread correct? (pxa270 video acceleration is now implemented): http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19099 Apr 27 16:12:06 hello everyone by the way Apr 27 16:12:10 hey lardman|work Apr 27 16:12:18 hi koen Apr 27 16:12:21 lardman|work: s/implemented/gross hack/ Apr 27 16:12:21 hi lardman Apr 27 16:12:33 hi woglinde Apr 27 16:12:49 lardman|work: implemented by the pdaxrom people in a way I'm not 100% happy with for OZ Apr 27 16:12:54 koen: well it's something to counter the "but it doesn't have acceleration" Apr 27 16:12:56 hm. there's an akita specific feed, Apr 27 16:13:07 RP: Ah, I see; do they have a working 2.6 kernel then? Apr 27 16:13:13 and its dated 25apr, so probably fine :) Apr 27 16:13:22 lardman|work: It doesn't have acceleration, it had overlay support which can accelerate video playback Apr 27 16:13:23 lardman: yes, I read the forums Apr 27 16:13:33 lardman|work: They're working on it Apr 27 16:13:40 lardman: and I recognise that accel is a work in progress on both sides Apr 27 16:14:17 raduga: I've recommend the release for now or toe oz351 branch although .dev should be just as good (if a little more unstable) Apr 27 16:14:17 RP: Is there a problem with implementing overlay support? It would be another reason for people to move Apr 27 16:14:37 raduga: ok Apr 27 16:14:44 lardman|work: time on my part Apr 27 16:14:55 RP: That I can understand :) Apr 27 16:15:13 * lardman|work had his viva today - passed, but corrections Apr 27 16:15:15 RP: thanks. it looks like the rc1 is pretty recent (couple days old) and has an akita feed, so probably not a lot to be gained from my own bake Apr 27 16:15:41 so, thanks :) Apr 27 16:15:48 lardman|work: I just don't have enough time to do everything everyone would like me to do :-/ Apr 27 16:16:09 lardman|work: viva for what? Congratulations regardless :) Apr 27 16:16:13 RP: Yep, that's fair enough Apr 27 16:16:17 RP: PhD Apr 27 16:16:29 and thanks :) Apr 27 16:16:48 lardman grats Apr 27 16:16:58 lardman what was the topic? Apr 27 16:16:59 lardman|work: congrats Apr 27 16:17:10 thanks woglinde, koen Apr 27 16:17:12 hi Apr 27 16:17:29 Topic was Automative engineering, driveability stuff Apr 27 16:17:43 s/Automative/Automotive Apr 27 16:17:44 "bitbake anthy" still fails. mkdepgrah which I guess should be built in the process (there is a mkdepgraph.c) cannot be found: http://rafb.net/paste/results/4Ay1RF55.html Apr 27 16:17:50 lardman|work: I couldn't face doing a PhD - would have tied me into Uni world too much :). My masters viva was bad enough... Apr 27 16:18:20 RP: I'm feeling the pain now, I had a real grilling and have to do some 'amendments' ;) Apr 27 16:19:20 mmm...grilling Apr 27 16:19:48 If only it were that way :D - almost bbq weather here! Apr 27 16:20:23 I've been grilling for months - like a little snow is going to stop me... :) Apr 27 16:20:55 lardman|work: Mine was to determine the final outcome of my degree and the topic was "anything you studied in Physics or anything else we happen to ask about". The only consolation was preparation was a waste of time! Apr 27 16:21:11 hm my family will make the first bbq of the year on saturday Apr 27 16:21:44 RP: I think that's the way of things - difficult to step back and see what others will look at Apr 27 16:22:42 * lardman|work had better do some day-job work now Apr 27 16:24:30 hm maybe my master visa is some topic about opensource software engeneering Apr 27 16:27:15 Anyone here know about xmame? Bug #182 Apr 27 16:27:51 I was just thinking that Octave uses a fp number to determine the endianness, and with the FPA soft-float system, this is bigendian Apr 27 16:28:03 no matter that the processor is littleendian Apr 27 16:28:21 lardman|work: actually the cpu is neither Apr 27 16:28:30 lardman|work: you can swith it to BE is you want to Apr 27 16:28:31 koen: okay, it can be both Apr 27 16:28:52 koen: But in context, the FPA numbers are always bigendian, no matter what the processor is Apr 27 16:29:50 yeah Apr 27 16:30:00 Bring on vfp ;) Apr 27 16:30:20 I was just wondering whether this might be a reason for the presumably odd error with xmame Apr 27 16:30:41 lardman|work: DISTRO="angstrom-2006.9" and you get softvfp Apr 27 16:30:55 koen: I know, I've grabbed your test image Apr 27 16:31:04 koen: Thanks Apr 27 16:31:24 RP: does networking stuff export enums to userland? Apr 27 16:31:42 koen: No idea offhand. I know v4l and ltt do Apr 27 16:32:04 RP: does linux-oz have the patch in .dev? Apr 27 16:32:12 koen: not yet Apr 27 16:33:18 RP: thanks for your 2.6 work :) Apr 27 16:37:43 raduga: RP will have your 760 "soon" Apr 27 16:39:00 raduga, pgas: thanks (This is a semi functional device in case anyone doesn't realise) Apr 27 16:40:00 pgas: wonderful! Apr 27 16:40:23 pgas: i guess i should ask, "is it not working anymore?" Apr 27 16:40:38 i.e. is there a warranty condition I should know about Apr 27 16:40:45 non it's still working Apr 27 16:40:45 so I can refund your money? Apr 27 16:40:48 ok :) Apr 27 16:41:19 I've just switch my server to an epia based one Apr 27 16:41:38 pgas: actually I was thinking, based on the forum posts, that guylhem might be interested in poking at a "C760 with a broken screen" Apr 27 16:41:51 but from what he now says, it looks like he's beyond that point where it would help Apr 27 16:43:05 I also still use your case ;) Apr 27 16:43:13 RP: last I had it, it was booting, running fine, except for display. Also, X wouldn't run, and I'm not positive about QT (probably they were looking for some feedback from the screen that was missing) Apr 27 16:43:30 pgas: good. Keep away from water! Apr 27 16:43:37 My harddisk is beginning to fill up, which files i can i delete and which not delete? I dont want to generat lovales again, it takes ages. Apr 27 16:43:52 raduga: X is running for me, I was able to acces it through VNC Apr 27 16:44:19 goxboxlive buy a new disk Apr 27 16:44:21 bye guys Apr 27 16:44:21 pgas: glad to hear that. maybe I was doing something wrong (its been awhile) Apr 27 16:44:25 :-) Apr 27 16:44:46 raduga: At the very least it will let me properly fix the backlight controller on my 760 :) Apr 27 16:44:48 though vnc uses its own virtual X server Apr 27 16:44:59 woglinde: And what to do when the new one is filled up? Apr 27 16:45:08 RP: good :) Apr 27 16:45:17 i think the BL is still ok Apr 27 16:45:22 it powers on (or used to) Apr 27 16:45:37 yeah BL is ok Apr 27 16:45:38 goboxlive: when the new one is full, buy another new one Apr 27 16:45:42 raduga: It still does as far as I know Apr 27 16:46:15 pgas: thanks again for helping me get a new zaurus. Apr 27 16:46:16 goxbox dontuse the donkey Apr 27 16:46:47 RP: pgas' sent me more money than it was probably worth, in exchange for the Z Apr 27 16:46:50 raduga: I was using x11vnc I don't think it starts its own server Apr 27 16:47:04 RP: which helped quite a lot. Apr 27 16:47:18 RP: i think he is a good person, btw. Apr 27 16:47:19 pgas: xdamagevnc is a lot faster Apr 27 16:47:20 woglinde: What du you mean? Apr 27 16:47:28 goxbox edonkey Apr 27 16:47:58 i dont, i just want to free up some space. Apr 27 16:49:19 rp: is QVGA video still a long ways off? Apr 27 16:49:57 raduga: Not a long way off - just needs to be done properly Apr 27 16:50:04 thanks :) Apr 27 16:50:21 * RP -> food - back later Apr 27 16:57:59 * chouimat is back. Apr 27 16:58:32 hi chouimat Apr 27 17:34:52 RP: more insults: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19045&pid=124815&st=0&#entry124815 Apr 27 17:39:49 * koen should try that, insulting people and saying "don't you understand the smiley?" Apr 27 17:41:42 koen: I think you have allready prove to be able to do better ;) Apr 27 17:42:08 yes Apr 27 17:42:21 by having much better grammar and spelling Apr 27 17:42:58 oh your english is also superior :) Apr 27 17:43:11 "don't you understand the smiley?" Apr 27 17:43:20 someone should port Serdar Argic to Zaurus :/ Apr 27 17:43:20 and let him loose in the forum Apr 27 17:45:11 hmm my nose tells me that I have some real life shit to pick up.....damn dog Apr 27 17:46:00 pgas carpet? Apr 27 17:46:24 not sure yet.. Apr 27 17:46:40 get some oxyclean and mix with hot water or the liquid which is really peroxide Apr 27 17:47:00 well you need a good detergent too to get rid of the grease/fat compunds in s*** Apr 27 17:47:04 but it will help Apr 27 17:47:06 bbl Apr 27 17:47:15 is it a new dog, or an old dog? Apr 27 17:47:16 thanks :) Apr 27 17:47:37 I also btw found a new product in walmart Apr 27 17:47:47 it's a bunch of natural chemicals like pepper, etc Apr 27 17:47:54 you can put in a area to keep pets away Apr 27 17:48:01 it pisses them off and irritates them Apr 27 17:48:04 but it's not damaging or toxic Apr 27 17:48:13 just makes them go "f*** this i ain't going there again" Apr 27 17:48:53 I should buy this and put it on my ethernet cable... Apr 27 18:08:25 koen: I just see some replies saying no flaming please. Was something removed? Apr 27 18:09:33 rp/koen how can I define a machine config only with processorname like msp430- instead of arm-linux- Apr 27 18:10:30 RP: sashz said something like "OZ hates pdaX because pdaX is much better, blablabla" Apr 27 18:10:30 woglinde: That sounds like something I'd be dubious about doing. Is it not going to run linux? Apr 27 18:10:49 TARGET_OS = ""? Apr 27 18:10:53 rp right is the mikrokontroller msp430 Apr 27 18:11:06 koen ah hm Apr 27 18:11:27 woglinde: ok, fair enough. I'm not sure OE has done this before :) Apr 27 18:11:49 hm my local.conf was broken Apr 27 18:12:04 ARGET_OS produces msp430-invalid Apr 27 18:12:04 koen: I'd tried not to be inflamatry as well... Apr 27 18:13:59 rp first I only want build a toolchain Apr 27 18:14:06 woglinde: Which variable is that in? You probably need to work that out and trace back from there Apr 27 18:14:15 hm Apr 27 18:14:41 TARGET_OS ="" produces msp430- Apr 27 18:17:08 hm isnt that easy to change it Apr 27 18:21:40 I'd love to see toolchains for microcontrollers in OE Apr 27 18:21:55 * RP too Apr 27 18:25:07 hm but what should I take as TARGET_OS Apr 27 18:26:42 TARGET_OS = "firmware" or "custom" ? Apr 27 18:27:44 Hmmmm..... today is Happy Kergoth's Birthday day. Apr 27 18:27:53 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Apr 27 18:27:53 nelson oh thanks Apr 27 18:28:15 crap! We should have figured it out a bit earlier, and send him some scotch or something Apr 27 18:52:35 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc2b2b886... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb: linux-oz-2.6: Add eabi fix (applied in mainline) Apr 27 18:52:37 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r9130fe4b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Add linux-nokia770 2.6.12.3 Apr 27 18:54:29 RP: thanks Apr 27 18:54:44 evening ! Apr 27 18:56:59 koen: The kernel .bb is not tested and simple but should work Apr 27 18:57:11 (well, not tested on a device, it builds) Apr 27 18:57:24 evening cyrilRomain! Apr 27 18:57:31 hey RP Apr 27 18:57:38 RP: I just realised 2.6.12 is quite worthless for eabi... Apr 27 18:59:03 koen: Yes :-/. I can't help unless they release a more recent version Apr 27 18:59:13 RP: I know Apr 27 18:59:29 RP: it's quite fishy that they kernel source isn't online anymore Apr 27 19:00:33 koen: yes. Since they are making devices public, there should be something releases somewhere though? Apr 27 19:00:40 yes Apr 27 19:00:52 but sharp doesn't have the sources for the kernel on the device either Apr 27 19:01:18 (tosa framebuffer problems come to mind) Apr 27 19:01:42 the nokia wifi driver also says 'GPL', but still no source Apr 27 19:02:19 koen pff Apr 27 19:15:22 heh Apr 27 19:15:23 http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2006/04/27/404-things-i-learned Apr 27 19:18:03 ok, just installed 3.5.4.1rc1 / OZ/opie on akita :/ Apr 27 19:18:24 boots fine until it hits the "starting opie" and then, seems to lock Apr 27 19:18:29 opie? Apr 27 19:18:31 yuck Apr 27 19:18:36 blank screen with a cursor (not moving) Apr 27 19:18:48 koen: yep :/ Apr 27 19:18:56 try gpe Apr 27 19:19:03 raduga: not good :-( Apr 27 19:19:06 koen: will do, shortly Apr 27 19:19:22 RP: bad flash? or something funny in the image? Apr 27 19:19:24 RP: I suspect the "new pcmcia device found" nonsense Apr 27 19:19:32 hrmf Apr 27 19:19:36 wait, akita Apr 27 19:19:37 hmmm Apr 27 19:19:44 akita, yes Apr 27 19:19:52 no cf/sd cards in slots Apr 27 19:20:23 * raduga checks the bugtracker Apr 27 19:20:23 raduga: If you switch to a virtual console is the device still running? Apr 27 19:20:45 Perhaps the images are bad - I know some of the images hrw has built have had issues... Apr 27 19:21:01 rp: arrow not responsive Apr 27 19:21:08 and i have no network configured, so can't SSH in yet Apr 27 19:21:41 raduga: Fn + Arrow Apr 27 19:21:53 urk. Apr 27 19:21:59 fn-arrow not presonsive either Apr 27 19:22:31 fsck Apr 27 19:22:34 hey hrw Apr 27 19:22:39 hi hrw! Apr 27 19:22:51 ~lart my home desktop Apr 27 19:22:51 * ibot cuts off my home desktop's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper Apr 27 19:24:10 hi hrw Apr 27 19:24:21 hrw: 3.5.4.1rc for akita, can't start opie Apr 27 19:24:29 raduga: and other cxx00 too Apr 27 19:24:38 no idea what is wrong Apr 27 19:24:44 works on my c760 Apr 27 19:24:50 hrw: ok. so someone's reported it :) [good] Apr 27 19:25:27 raduga: officially I dont even know about this Apr 27 19:26:27 'Nie mozna utworzyc folderu INBOX na serwerze.' ;(( ('Unable to create folder INBOX on server.') Apr 27 19:26:55 fsck Apr 27 19:26:57 hrw: should I officially report to bugs.oe.org? Apr 27 19:27:12 good thinking Apr 27 19:27:12 hrw: or should I officially leave you alone right now? :) Apr 27 19:27:26 raduga: on my z it works Apr 27 19:28:35 If its reported we can looks into it. I can try my c3000 opie images for example. If they work and hrw's don't we know its a build issue. They did work in alpha1 :-/ Apr 27 19:33:29 * hrw piss on 'pdaX 2.6 powered' threads on oesf forums Apr 27 19:34:16 3 if not 4 threads about same thing and pdaX admin does not even merge them Apr 27 19:34:26 heh Apr 27 19:34:35 and sash just keeps insulting OZ and RP Apr 27 19:34:41 and laze keeps removing those comments Apr 27 19:34:47 hrw: pdaX admin has at least, deleted a few really inappropriate posts Apr 27 19:34:53 (from pdaX users) Apr 27 19:34:59 oh Apr 27 19:35:00 hmm Apr 27 19:35:15 koen: is he removing posts from OE/OZ people too? Apr 27 19:35:23 raduga: no idea Apr 27 19:35:35 raduga: so finally 'pdax people are nice, OZ devels are ignoring bastards which should be .....' situation exist Apr 27 19:35:38 coool Apr 27 19:35:42 post and see if it is deleted Apr 27 19:36:12 hrw: hm... Apr 27 19:38:13 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19107 == 'Thanks for working so hard on pdaXrom guys and the help you've given me sashz. Can't wait for 2.6 kernel to come out.' - no word of source of Zaurus 2.6 kernel | http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19099 = 'I heard that pdaX has 2.6 with video accel - when Oz will get it??' etc Apr 27 19:39:14 Packaged contents of uqm into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/uqm_0.5.0-r0_arm.ipk Apr 27 19:39:53 I've said what I'm going to say on the issue. sash appears to be trying to start a fight... Apr 27 19:43:15 OZ: responsible for porting kernel 2.6, pdaX: downloaded source + patches from internet Apr 27 19:43:39 gee, I really see how hard the pdaZ team is working and needs to be praised Apr 27 19:44:29 bah you guys really live in you world Apr 27 19:44:43 you seems to think that nobody knows who's doing what Apr 27 19:44:57 people are not idiots Apr 27 19:45:09 they knwo who worked on the 2.6 kernel Apr 27 19:45:16 pgas: everyone lives in their own world Apr 27 19:45:33 pgas: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19107 Apr 27 19:45:42 pgas: " can't wait for 2.6 to come out" Apr 27 19:45:53 pgas: It is already out! Apr 27 19:46:08 we use 2.6 on Z since OZ 3.5.2? Apr 27 19:46:19 and people don't know that? Apr 27 19:46:24 they do know that Apr 27 19:46:31 * hrw used 2.4 on c760 for <2h (have machien for over year) Apr 27 19:46:53 people have been using oz and 2.6 Apr 27 19:47:21 you seem to think that everyone wrongly use pdaxrom which is bad Apr 27 19:47:49 but I know a lot of people who uses exclusively OZ (and a lot because of the 2.6 kernel) Apr 27 19:48:08 And I know a lot more that uses sharp/cacko Apr 27 19:48:43 I remember sash saying "2.6 sucks we won't use it" Apr 27 19:48:55 and now he's all "please RP, help me, we are too stupid" Apr 27 19:49:08 but does he say that on the forum? Apr 27 19:49:23 no, over there he's all "we did all the work ourselves, OZ sucks" Apr 27 19:49:35 yeah sure Apr 27 19:50:03 I remember when raduga asks sashz if he wanted his 760 Apr 27 19:50:11 interesting thing is that there is no answer from sash to RP post Apr 27 19:50:20 and raduga also asks him if he should donate it to OZ Apr 27 19:50:22 hrw: there was Apr 27 19:50:27 hrw: but laze deleted it Apr 27 19:50:29 sashz answered sur Apr 27 19:50:42 koen: which is a good thing Apr 27 19:50:51 s/sur/sure Apr 27 19:50:58 pgas: as we said, it's now a good thing Apr 27 19:50:59 koen: for me there is no info - I cannot trace oesf 5 times per minute Apr 27 19:51:08 21:45 < hrw> raduga: so finally 'pdax people are nice, OZ devels are ignoring bastards which should be .....' situation exist Apr 27 19:51:09 rp/hrw: 3.5.4.1rc1 boots to console ok, at least. Apr 27 19:51:38 what would you invoke to start opie from the console? Apr 27 19:51:53 qpe Apr 27 19:51:58 raduga: /etc/init.d/opie start? Apr 27 19:53:51 pgas: if laze was really serious, he'd deleted *all* flaming posts Apr 27 19:54:03 pgas: but he didn't, and we all know why Apr 27 19:54:36 koen: which posts are you talking about? Apr 27 19:55:10 koen, there was no flame war before YOU came to these forums (which you continuously bash) Apr 27 19:55:28 heh Apr 27 19:55:36 I didn't steal the OE name Apr 27 20:00:34 hmm.. I was going to write about pdax/2.6 on blog but does not want to have flamewar in comments (if any) Apr 27 20:01:02 turn comments off? Apr 27 20:01:25 heh Apr 27 20:01:55 after the n+1th spambot hit I turned them off Apr 27 20:02:26 koen: wordpress has nice plugin for spam comments (which does not work on sf.net :( Apr 27 20:02:59 pyblosxom also has a plugin, but as usual it requires python munging Apr 27 20:03:31 Hi :-) Apr 27 20:04:19 hi ecco Apr 27 20:04:27 hello woglinde Apr 27 20:05:36 btw, I've verified- qpe doesn't actually hang the machine Apr 27 20:05:46 kernel is running ok. just the console is locked Apr 27 20:05:48 and unresponsive Apr 27 20:06:04 raduga: Any idea what the error is? Apr 27 20:06:11 rp: not yet :) Apr 27 20:06:19 raduga: kernel also 3.5.4.1-rc1? Apr 27 20:06:33 hrw: yes Apr 27 20:06:38 from same source Apr 27 20:06:48 Linux akita 2.6.16 #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 25 19:07:30 CEST 2006 armv5tel unknown Apr 27 20:07:09 raduga: You're running OZ on a C-1000 ? Apr 27 20:07:13 ecco: yes Apr 27 20:07:22 Have you ever experience some really weird problems with Gadget-USB ? Apr 27 20:07:36 ecco: right now, experiencing problems getting Opie to run at all. Apr 27 20:07:38 experienced, sorry Apr 27 20:07:43 Ah, never tried OPIE though Apr 27 20:07:52 Indeed i switched over to debian anyway :-D Apr 27 20:07:55 sorry, unfamiliar with gadget-usb Apr 27 20:08:12 ok. It sometimes just doesn't work for no appearant reason on mine Apr 27 20:08:44 raduga: I prefer cat /proc/version then uname -a Apr 27 20:09:00 Linux version 2.6.16-3.5.4.1-rc1 (hrw@bitbake) (gcc version 3.4.4) #1 PREEMPT Tue Apr 25 19:07:30 CEST 2006 Apr 27 20:09:44 tx Apr 27 20:09:50 hm does the hh-kernel not work wit gcc4? Apr 27 20:10:15 woglinde: the 2.6 one does Apr 27 20:10:39 woglinde: 2.6.16-hh0 boots on a hx4700 compiled with gcc 4.1 Apr 27 20:11:11 koen I meant because of the oz kernel from raduga Apr 27 20:11:51 woglinde: oz is still being compiled with gcc3 Apr 27 20:12:07 koen ah okay Apr 27 20:12:26 woglinde: in the release branch at least Apr 27 20:12:57 woglinde: i think 2.6 kernel is being developed by sashz, but OE people want to pretend that they had something to do with it Apr 27 20:13:15 koen: sorry ;) Apr 27 20:13:26 raduga please dont feed me with that stuff Apr 27 20:14:03 woglinde: ok Apr 27 20:14:35 raduga I see enough devices and projects which violate the GPL Apr 27 20:18:03 Did anyone encountered this problem building coreutils-native (target=tosa) http://oe.pastebin.com/683848 ? Apr 27 20:18:13 * hrw exchange collie for h2200 - someone mad enough to exchange? Apr 27 20:18:48 hrw if I had a collie Apr 27 20:18:54 ups *would Apr 27 20:19:23 woglinde: he wanted to swap the other way round :-) Apr 27 20:19:36 * koen hugs his h2200 Apr 27 20:19:42 hrw: maybe zecke Apr 27 20:19:54 koen: zecke already has collie Apr 27 20:20:01 ecco *shame on me* Apr 27 20:20:26 no pb :-) Apr 27 20:43:16 ave artemy Apr 27 20:43:31 ave tutu, morituri te salutant ! Apr 27 20:48:11 Question about ARM qemu image generation: it can be done with MACHINE="qemuarm". But do I need a separate OE base directory to build it ? Apr 27 20:49:08 cyrilRomain: Did you use multimachine? Apr 27 20:50:37 RP: multimachine ? I don't think so. Apr 27 20:51:06 RP: is it a special local.conf option that enable me to build qemuarm + tosa with one build directory ? Apr 27 20:51:47 cyrilRomain: under tmp/work do you have an armv5te-linux directory? Apr 27 20:52:06 RP: yes Apr 27 20:52:29 cyrilRomain: ok, you're using multimachine - certain distros default to it Apr 27 20:52:39 cyrilRomain: Just change the machine and it will work Apr 27 20:54:02 RP: ok, thanks :) Apr 27 20:58:33 RP: are there still the gcc 4.x compiling issues for qemu-native ? Apr 27 20:59:17 RP: no apparently :) Apr 27 21:00:05 cyrilRomain: There are two qemu-native packages, one will work on gcc4, one won't. I'm not sure sdl graphics are enabled on the gcc4 version though Apr 27 21:00:46 RP: at least qemu-native was compiled when building ansgtrom :) Thanks for the info Apr 27 21:01:11 cyrilRomain: Its the build system's gcc that's the problem Apr 27 21:01:24 if you have qemu-native, you have the full thing Apr 27 21:04:14 well, I only have gcc4.1 on my buildhost, so angstrom should have use to good one :) Apr 27 21:04:35 s/use/used Apr 27 21:10:39 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7373c093... 10/packages/anthy/ (6 files in 4 dirs): anthy-native: build fix Apr 27 21:22:18 NOTE: package bootsplash-3.0.7-r1: task do_build: completed Apr 27 21:34:11 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * re26aef15... 10/packages/bootsplash/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bootsplash: make it building - close #346 Apr 27 21:34:19 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r22277352... 10/packages/bootsplash/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bootsplash: make it building - close #346 Apr 27 21:38:04 cu Apr 27 21:38:43 Hello Apr 27 21:38:49 Has anyone here booted off a CF card ? Apr 27 21:39:08 you mean in general, or do you have a platform in mind? Apr 27 21:40:09 on a Zaurus C-1000 Apr 27 21:40:34 What's weird is that I can access it through /dev/hda2 when the system works Apr 27 21:40:41 so I added "root=/dev/hda2" Apr 27 21:41:18 and now it ends up with "cannot open root device "hda2" or unknown-block(0,0)" Apr 27 21:41:31 and then panics because it didn't find a rootfs Apr 27 21:43:49 Ecco: Did you have the filesystem on the card compiled into the kernel? Apr 27 21:44:01 Ah... yeah, normally yeah Apr 27 21:44:05 It's ext3 formatted Apr 27 21:44:08 I'm gonna check that Apr 27 21:44:12 Ecco: Also, you might need to add a small delay Apr 27 21:44:24 Ecco: It does work as the c3x00's do this as standard Apr 27 21:44:24 ah Apr 27 21:44:33 Ha Apr 27 21:44:38 How do I add that delay ? Apr 27 21:45:10 By the way, hello RP :-) Apr 27 21:45:36 Its a standard kernel parameter - can't remember what it is offhand, sorry Apr 27 21:45:38 hello :) Apr 27 21:45:42 hmm Apr 27 21:45:53 Do you know where those parameters are stored in OE ? Apr 27 21:46:01 I'm also looking for the console-rotation thingy Apr 27 21:46:13 linux-openzaurus.inc Apr 27 21:46:16 thanks Apr 27 21:46:56 CMDLINE_ROOT_spitz = "root=/dev/hda1 rootfstype=ext3 rw" Apr 27 21:47:04 hmm, theres no such thing here... Apr 27 21:47:14 re Apr 27 21:47:22 hi CoreDump|home Apr 27 21:47:25 -> THAT is great though : CMDLINE_ROTATE_akita = "fbcon=rotate:1" Apr 27 21:47:27 hi CoreDump|home Apr 27 21:48:44 Ecco: Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt in any good linux source, search for delay Apr 27 21:48:51 ok, thanks a lot Apr 27 21:49:03 but how comes it's not enabled by default on spitz then ? Apr 27 21:49:15 I guess I found it wasn't needed in the end Apr 27 21:49:22 oh, ok Apr 27 21:49:22 :-) Apr 27 21:49:34 rootdelay= [KNL] Delay (in seconds) to pause before attempting to Apr 27 21:49:34 mount the root filesystem Apr 27 21:49:38 Guess that's it :-) Apr 27 21:49:44 Ok, gcc is heating :-) Apr 27 21:51:13 flashing the Z.... Apr 27 21:52:19 ... Apr 27 21:52:37 flashed ! Apr 27 21:52:41 rebooting !! Apr 27 21:53:02 well Apr 27 21:53:08 in a way it worked a bit better Apr 27 21:53:18 1/ the screen rotated Apr 27 21:53:34 2/ The PCMCIA driver had the time to "react" a bit Apr 27 21:53:43 ok, I'm gonna add some more delay :-) Apr 27 21:55:19 reflashing... Apr 27 21:56:43 hmm Apr 27 21:56:47 no, it did not work Apr 27 21:58:27 Any other idea, guys ? Apr 27 21:58:38 Ecco: try again Apr 27 21:58:44 ?? Apr 27 21:58:57 Ecco: sounds like your flash failed.... 1 minute flash... doubtful Apr 27 21:59:12 Oh, no, I mean it went a lot quicker Apr 27 22:00:00 I still get that weird VFS error Apr 27 22:20:58 Ecco: Did you set the right rootfs type? Is your card partitioned? Apr 27 22:21:34 yeah, my card is partitionned Apr 27 22:21:37 I set rootfs:ext3 Apr 27 22:21:53 and I included the "advanced partitionning" support in the kernel Apr 27 22:22:57 I don't know then I'm afraid Apr 27 22:23:14 Hmm, yes, that looks weird to me as well Apr 28 00:59:30 I'm lovin bitbake's newfound speed Apr 28 01:38:47 hello Apr 28 01:39:00 suddenly sylphee started to fail Apr 28 01:40:05 it won't display Apr 28 02:01:30 punk-ass: liar Apr 28 02:01:40 punk-ass: I know you patronize bunny rabbits Apr 28 02:05:17 who told you?! Apr 28 02:06:35 punk-ass: everyone was talking about it after you left Apr 28 02:16:14 :) Apr 28 02:16:27 anybody have any luck with qemu-system-arm? Apr 28 03:06:14 mtn 0.26 is a reasonable pull time Apr 28 03:06:16 :) Apr 28 03:06:46 RP: hey, you around? Apr 28 03:09:51 want to ask if having my C3000 unit would help you out Apr 28 03:09:58 i.e. ship it out to you Apr 28 03:17:59 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r505ffa9b... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Demoted union-fs-modules and unions-utils - they fail to build. Apr 28 05:07:16 agh, can't fetch quilt via cvs Apr 28 05:07:19 what now :/ Apr 28 05:20:03 stop deleting your sources dir? Apr 28 05:20:42 which ver do you need? Apr 28 05:20:55 i have 39 and 42 Apr 28 06:16:15 good morning all Apr 28 06:16:46 morning Apr 28 06:17:44 I guess the topic change means I should flash 3.5.4.1-rc instead of my nice comfy .dev image that I have? Apr 28 06:18:17 that's something for #openzaurus Apr 28 06:18:27 we're talking about openembedded bugs :) Apr 28 06:19:17 so bugs in the build process? any distro or branch in particular? Apr 28 06:19:18 http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/current/8131.html <- that ones Apr 28 06:20:17 looks like fun Apr 28 06:51:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r74625fe8... 10/packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.53.bb: gpe-bluetooth: add 0.53 Apr 28 07:00:18 Good morning. Apr 28 07:00:28 OK, let's squash bugs ;-) Apr 28 07:00:36 How is this being done? Apr 28 07:00:50 One picks a bug and tries to figure it out? Apr 28 07:01:13 Any good ones to pick? Maybe one who do not need a full expert ;-) Apr 28 07:01:24 Otherwise I'll pick 623, 842, 843. Apr 28 07:04:12 pick a bug, see if you can reproduce it Apr 28 07:04:20 or if you know the fix, tell us :) Apr 28 07:04:44 Moin koen. OK. I will. Apr 28 07:05:07 Any hints on what I might want to prioritize? Is their a tag for bugs waiting to be reproduced? Apr 28 07:06:57 Laibsch: not really Apr 28 07:12:17 OK, I have already found a couple of nice ones. Apr 28 07:12:23 * Laibsch is off to the office Apr 28 07:12:28 See you later. Apr 28 07:16:33 morning Apr 28 07:16:40 morning all Apr 28 07:16:45 hey RP Apr 28 07:17:27 hey lardman|work, mithro & RP Apr 28 07:21:00 can people give me your thoughts on clarity of http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/gettingstarted.php Apr 28 07:24:19 hey RP, koen Apr 28 07:36:22 morning Apr 28 07:37:55 hey hrw|work Apr 28 07:39:39 hi hrw|work Apr 28 07:41:29 * hrw|work will move quilt to archives Apr 28 07:41:43 fetching from cvs -> fetching archives Apr 28 07:42:41 * koen tries OE on osx Apr 28 07:42:50 #296 Apr 28 07:43:41 hi XorA Apr 28 07:43:43 hey XorA Apr 28 07:43:44 morning Apr 28 07:43:51 hows the BSP going? Apr 28 07:45:25 I, ehm, am filing more bugs than solving them Apr 28 07:47:13 hrm, isn't it friday? Apr 28 07:47:26 koen: you have osx? Apr 28 07:47:32 mithro: I have Apr 28 07:48:10 btw, can people give me your thoughts on clarity of http://www.thousandparsec.net/tp/gettingstarted.php :P Apr 28 07:48:32 mithro: maybe remove the 'about' blurb down a bit Apr 28 07:48:36 and start with the menu Apr 28 07:48:42 hey Genesis Apr 28 07:49:13 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8fce80a5... 10/packages/quilt/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Apr 28 07:49:13 quilt: switched to tarballs Apr 28 07:49:13 - native include non-native (easier managing) Apr 28 07:49:13 - dropped not-needed patches Apr 28 07:49:13 - dropped old versions Apr 28 07:49:49 mithro: I've found a missing word & a typo Apr 28 07:50:00 bonjour Apr 28 07:50:08 lo koen :) Apr 28 07:50:17 lardman|work: msg me with the corrections? Apr 28 07:50:34 mithro: If I can work out how, give me a tick ;) Apr 28 07:50:55 use /msg Apr 28 07:51:07 okay, thanks :) Apr 28 07:51:41 or just join #tp and paste it there Apr 28 07:51:55 mithro: Did that get to you? Apr 28 07:53:09 wooo! Apr 28 07:53:14 one bug down Apr 28 07:53:19 lardman|work: yeah Apr 28 07:53:42 mithro: Cool Apr 28 07:56:07 * XorA feels like clearing #639 Apr 28 07:58:38 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r67cbf694... 10/classes/srec.bbclass: srec.bbclass: add nostamp=1, closes #78 Apr 28 08:02:46 hrw|work: could you also put that quilt cset in .dev? Apr 28 08:02:56 working on it Apr 28 08:03:46 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rac0753de... 10/packages/gnome/libgnomeprint_2.8.2.bb: libgnomeprint: enable cups and libgnomecups, closes #197 Apr 28 08:08:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r866579f6... 10/packages/gnome/gnome-mime-data_2.4.2.bb: gnome-mime-data: added dependency on libxml-parser-perl-native, closes #222 Apr 28 08:14:49 morninga ll Apr 28 08:14:53 hey ade|desk Apr 28 08:15:02 oops, morning all Apr 28 08:15:06 hey koen Apr 28 08:18:22 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r908f66a3... 10/packages/perl/ (files/Configure-multilib.patch perl-native_5.8.7.bb perl.inc): Apr 28 08:18:22 packages/perl/perl-native_5.8.7.bb, packages/perl/perl.inc : fix issues Apr 28 08:18:22 with building on multilib amd64 machines. Apr 28 08:21:14 crap forgot to put bug numer in there Apr 28 08:23:55 quilt pushed Apr 28 08:25:01 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r545aa00c... 10/packages/quilt/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Apr 28 08:25:01 quilt: switched to tarballs Apr 28 08:25:01 - native include non-native (easier managing) Apr 28 08:25:01 - dropped not-needed patches Apr 28 08:25:01 - dropped old versions (0.39 and 0.42 stay) Apr 28 08:27:18 morning Apr 28 08:27:27 hi CoreDump|home Apr 28 08:28:29 hey CoreDump|home Apr 28 08:34:37 anyone built web and knows how it compares with gpe-mini-browser ? Apr 28 08:35:24 different rendering engine Apr 28 08:35:31 gtkhtml vs webcore Apr 28 08:35:44 last I tried web didn't have javascript Apr 28 08:35:56 koen: I suspect it does now Apr 28 08:35:57 didn't try ssl support Apr 28 08:36:25 koen: ssl is the key for me Apr 28 08:36:46 if you build curl with ssl support minibrowser will have it as well Apr 28 08:46:47 ah yes the --without-ssl would be the thing ... oops Apr 28 08:49:08 * XorA has done a bad thing :-( Apr 28 08:52:56 ~lart sylpheed Apr 28 08:52:56 * ibot gives sylpheed a good seeing to Apr 28 08:54:23 ok, so sylpheed currently has no SSL functionality :-( Apr 28 08:56:24 hrw|work: you cset for quilt is not quite right Apr 28 08:56:43 hrw|work: dependencie loop Apr 28 08:56:51 dependency* Apr 28 08:56:53 fsck Apr 28 08:57:18 ERROR: /home/koen/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/packages/autoconf/autoconf-native_2.59.bb depends on itself (eventually) Apr 28 08:57:21 ERROR: upwards chain is: quilt (quilt) -> autoconf-native (autoconf-native) -> m4-native (m4-native) -> quilt-native (quilt-native) -> gettext-native (gettext-native) Apr 28 08:57:42 ok see now Apr 28 08:58:58 koen: does this help: Apr 28 08:59:00 +++ packages/quilt/quilt-native_0.42.bb 5788d4e29a579fbb261ce95024b5a1e8722a0042 Apr 28 08:59:00 @@ -1,7 +1,5 @@ include quilt.inc Apr 28 08:59:00 -include quilt_${PV}.bb Apr 28 09:02:04 XorA: it should be able to use gnutls (via the openssl compatibility wrapper), I think Apr 28 09:02:35 that certainly used to work, at any rate. if it's gotten broken then I suppose the culprit should be identified and treated harshly. Apr 28 09:02:48 hrw|work: that seems to work Apr 28 09:03:32 iirc sylpheed got broken during some revert frenzy Apr 28 09:03:36 ok Apr 28 09:05:17 RP: bbshell still has the error-caching bug.... Apr 28 09:06:06 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r79d03099... 10/packages/quilt/ (quilt-native_0.39.bb quilt-native_0.42.bb): quilt: unbreak dependency chain Apr 28 09:07:48 pb__: that culprit is probably a combo between _law_ and I Apr 28 09:08:11 pb__: ah well, me task for today is to fix that Apr 28 09:08:45 ~lart iproute2 Apr 28 09:08:46 * ibot nukes iproute2 with a single large nuke Apr 28 09:08:46 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * re0211e67... 10/packages/quilt/ (quilt-native_0.39.bb quilt.inc quilt_0.39.bb): quilt: more cleanups from .dev Apr 28 09:09:11 XorA: ah, heh. very good. Apr 28 09:09:13 koen: no it got broken when sylpheed started verifying certs which gnutls didnt support, then I thought I had successfully built 2.2.X series against gnutls, but I must have been on acid that day :-( Apr 28 09:21:11 ~change 88usd to eur Apr 28 09:21:13 that doesn't look right Apr 28 09:21:17 ~change 88 usd to eur Apr 28 09:21:22 88.00 United States Dollar (USD) makes 70.0795 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) Apr 28 09:21:44 ~change 120 euro to usd Apr 28 09:21:48 120.00 Euro (EUR) makes 150.686 United States Dollar (USD) (from http://www.xe.com/) Apr 28 09:30:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r69df200b... 10/packages/xserver-common/xserver-common_1.9.bb: xserver-common: update to 1.9 Apr 28 09:43:26 koen: Nobody mentioned it was the shell that had issues. That makes the bug much more understandable :) Apr 28 09:43:48 koen: what new in xserver-common 1.9? Apr 28 09:43:48 RP: they both had issues Apr 28 09:44:19 hrw|work: keymaps, but I'll dig up the complete changelog Apr 28 09:45:05 hrw|work: nothing interesting for oz Apr 28 09:45:09 http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/getfile/gpe/base/xserver-common/ChangeLog?v=1.22 Apr 28 09:45:16 koen: Can you file a bug for that please? Apr 28 09:45:33 I'll have to join the BSP tonight/tomorrow... Apr 28 09:46:04 ok Apr 28 09:46:57 RP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=914 Apr 28 09:48:04 koen: thanks Apr 28 09:49:41 That OS X cache failure is strange :-/ Apr 28 09:51:52 hey zecke Apr 28 09:52:01 hi zecke Apr 28 09:52:01 hi zecke Apr 28 09:52:24 gosh I'm stoned :} Apr 28 09:53:26 zecke: stay away from directfb authors ;) Apr 28 09:53:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0c181063... 10/packages/iproute2/ (2 files in 2 dirs): iproute2: add 2.6.16 Apr 28 09:53:55 koen: I visited the dentist Apr 28 09:58:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r518487b5... 10/packages/quagga/ (9 files in 3 dirs): quagga: add 0.99.2 and 0.99.3, closes #476 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 28 09:59:56 2006