**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 09 09:59:56 2006 May 09 10:00:06 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/kernel-patches/01-asus.patch is for you May 09 10:00:42 thanks May 09 10:00:42 koen: iirc you had one more asus card - wl110 or something... May 09 10:00:50 that's the wl110 May 09 10:00:56 the other is a buffalo card May 09 10:01:11 I got the buffalo with my c700 May 09 10:01:22 buffalo are spectrum iirc May 09 10:01:37 haven't checked May 09 10:02:07 hmm.. patch is wrong May 09 10:02:16 will reeedit May 09 10:06:58 koen: refresh to get simpler version. check does it help (when have orinoco_cs and hostap_cs installed) May 09 10:14:16 09 00:02 < RP> pccardctl segfaults due to a constant not being set. May 09 10:14:22 RP: what need to be set? May 09 10:16:19 hrw|work: PCMCIAUTILS_VERSION gets set on the commandline - set it directly in the file and it works much better May 09 10:16:54 patch! patch! patch! May 09 10:16:55 ;) May 09 10:17:29 koen: I was planning to May 09 10:17:42 (and pcmciautils 013) May 09 10:17:58 013 is in .oz354x May 09 10:18:28 How very nice for oz354x :-/ May 09 10:18:42 * RP hadn't realised... May 09 10:22:01 NOTE: package libsdl-x11-1.2.9: completed May 09 10:23:43 RP: Do you talk with sash. If you outline what he needs to improve on the patches May 09 10:24:01 RP: does he accept it? May 09 10:24:46 zecke: He has no interest in doing it. It works for pdaxrom May 09 10:26:04 hehe May 09 10:26:30 RP: the last survey entry is interesting May 09 10:27:02 zecke: Will have to look later - too difficult to access from this machine :-/ May 09 10:30:26 zecke: #67? May 09 10:31:12 yes May 09 10:31:33 zecke: hm. can you edit css again? May 09 10:31:48 body { color:#000;} May 09 10:32:04 hrw|work: yes May 09 10:33:05 three zeros? May 09 10:33:09 yes May 09 10:33:35 add that 'color:#000;' into current body{} definition May 09 10:34:50 better? May 09 10:35:21 much better May 09 10:36:05 what did I change? May 09 10:40:23 zecke: text color May 09 10:41:20 zecke: I use brown by default May 09 10:41:58 ah May 09 10:42:21 koen: what did you change on my mtn migration proposal? May 09 10:42:39 I moved the readonly part around May 09 10:43:14 so compile mtn 0.26 first? May 09 10:43:17 then read only? May 09 10:43:41 yes, it's of no use to block development if we don't have a working 0.26 binary May 09 10:44:09 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/706971 May 09 10:44:37 zecke: and http://oe.pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=706291 May 09 10:44:45 zecke: pastebin has a 'diff' button :) May 09 10:45:02 njs: right, the script would memorize it May 09 10:46:35 koen: the issue is. We need to halt development May 09 10:46:54 koen: we can not just say, well mtn 0.26+ is compiled stop now May 09 10:47:16 'we are ready, stop tomorrow' May 09 10:47:45 or pin the readonly date, but have 0.26 ready a week before May 09 10:55:31 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r6ee047b7... 10/packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws_2.2.0.bb: May 09 10:55:31 packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws_2.2.0.bb : some small fixes to depends May 09 10:55:31 and args passed to configure. May 09 11:16:27 gosh May 09 11:16:40 sash makes pdaXrom the top proposal May 09 11:16:46 pb_: please help May 09 11:16:50 pb_: actually it has +4 May 09 11:17:02 pb_: but 3*4 -4 May 09 11:17:09 pb_: because sash, accepted it three times :} May 09 11:17:40 I think it is about time to talk with Erik May 09 11:26:17 lol May 09 11:26:37 "GPE is bloated" this is why we will use X11+Gtk+ for the apps we write May 09 11:29:24 zecke: those opinions makes me wonder 'to apply for mentor or not' May 09 11:29:44 hrw|work: next year? May 09 11:30:28 zecke: I can find some time this summer probably May 09 11:30:51 hrw|work: ah okay, you should have stepped up already :} May 09 11:30:59 hrw|work: all mentors need to be registered May 09 11:31:04 I know May 09 11:31:08 Don't let sashz but you off. Just ignore him. May 09 11:31:59 as hh.org member I will betrayed May 09 11:40:45 hrw|work: we have some nice proposals, and we could need you :) May 09 11:40:49 zecke: /cr May 09 11:40:52 ops May 09 11:40:59 ok ok May 09 11:41:04 RP: yeah, I will ignore him... May 09 11:43:17 koen: NOTE: package sylpheed-claws-plugin-rssyl-2.2.0: completed May 09 11:43:29 XorA: yay! May 09 11:45:19 zecke lef t;( May 09 11:45:42 koen: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31779.png May 09 11:46:10 hrw|work: http://code.google.com/soc/mentor_step1.html May 09 11:46:29 XorA: cool May 09 11:58:57 koen: applied May 09 12:00:26 now you can read all the wonderfull proposals May 09 12:03:01 koen: looks like first I need to be approved May 09 12:18:17 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rb1410ede... 10/packages/sylpheed/ (3 files): May 09 12:18:17 packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws_2.2.0.bb : stage stuff for plugins May 09 12:18:17 packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws-plugin-rssyl_2.2.0.bb : add rss plugin May 09 12:18:17 for sylpheed-claws. Also includes generic framework for enabling the May 09 12:18:17 others May 09 12:25:07 koen: there you, go some toys for you May 09 12:25:11 yay! May 09 12:25:56 I just got my ipaqs working with good'ol softfpa May 09 12:26:27 hey mickeyl May 09 12:26:30 hi May 09 12:27:45 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r89299f14... 10/packages/albumshaper/ (albumshaper_2.1.bb files/fixpaths.patch): add albumshaper (qt3x11), open source application for organizing, annotating, framing, enhancing, stylizing, and sharing your digital photos May 09 12:27:49 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc218cd6a... 10/packages/mkbot/mkbot_0.3.bb: add mkbot, a modular IRC bot written in C++, using the Qt 4 toolkit. May 09 12:27:54 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4d0ef0b0... 10/packages/apr/ (4 files): May 09 12:27:54 apr: upgrade to 0.9.12, fix staging May 09 12:27:54 apr-util: upgrade to 0.9.12, fix staging May 09 12:27:54 NOTE: it's not enough to stage the library, you need to stage includes as well May 09 12:27:55 NOTE: alternatively, call autotools_stage_all May 09 12:27:59 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf43c0bbb... 10/classes/base.bbclass: base.bbclass: fix showing MT revision by using rindex instead of index to get the position of the MT directory May 09 12:28:14 the possibility for people to add more than one evaluation that adds up to the sum is surely broken by design or is it? May 09 12:31:03 (talking about the SOC mentor UI) May 09 12:32:24 hi mickeyl May 09 12:32:32 hi hrw May 09 12:39:10 mickeyl: I guess google assumes 7 year olds don't get to be a mentor ;) May 09 12:40:10 true enough May 09 12:40:53 however, I bumped embed from "i support this" to "i will mentor this" and I think adding those two is unfair in contrast to people that don't change their minds and vote only one time May 09 12:41:07 it should really be fixed in the UI imo May 09 12:41:28 send a mail to the summer-discuss google group May 09 12:41:37 yeah May 09 12:42:21 and make sure erik nows it, so the mentors can work on a solution May 09 12:43:26 I keep getting an error message saying sanity checker detected potential missconfiguration. Is there a log file that I can access to see what the missconfiguration is? May 09 12:43:56 Gerrath, does rerunning the commnad get you past that problem? May 09 12:44:35 I didn't try, I figured it was best to figure out what was wrong first, should I just run it again? May 09 12:44:51 I just try again May 09 12:44:53 :) May 09 12:45:03 I'd like an naswer to the question also though May 09 12:45:09 RP: http://oe.pastebin.com/707302 May 09 12:45:24 iirc the latest sanity.conf should tell you what's wrong May 09 12:45:47 hmm May 09 12:46:05 heh May 09 12:46:11 communication by proxy May 09 12:46:18 I assume the correct action is to fix there when we are bored? May 09 12:47:53 this is probably a simple (stupid) question but how do you take patches for the kernel that you have written and apply them to the kernel src downloaded by openembedded? May 09 12:48:15 Gerrath: put them in SRC_URI May 09 12:48:18 hrw|work: I'm aware of that - its the reason the RTC doesn't last over reboots as far as I know. I just want to check the reference manual before applying it May 09 12:48:30 Gerrath: check package/linux/*.bb for some examples May 09 12:48:58 Gerrath, what machine are you using? May 09 12:48:58 RP: ok May 09 12:49:11 LogicPD zoom (PXA270) May 09 12:50:53 this file shows downloading a patch /packages/linux/linux-omap1_2.6.12-rc2.bb May 09 12:52:12 mickeyl: yes, I think that is broken as designed May 09 12:52:36 pb_: *nod* then I guess the powers at google are already aware of it May 09 12:52:41 holger also (accidentally, I think) voted for one project multiple times May 09 12:54:12 Crofton, the patch=1 at the end of the line signifies it is a patch file? May 09 12:54:40 maybe I should leave this room till the mentor voting is done :) May 09 12:54:54 Gerrath: yes. you can even add 'pnum=n' if it's not a -p1 patch May 09 12:55:05 ~lart mediawiki May 09 12:55:06 * ibot_ hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at mediawiki May 09 12:55:10 mithro: nah. just ignore us May 09 12:55:27 I think so :) May 09 12:55:37 It's been a while May 09 12:56:11 if it kept locally, you can use file like I did with defconfig May 09 12:56:36 do not use that bb file as an exampleof a good kernel bb file though, I did it :) May 09 12:57:05 Crofton, I guess the best thing is to make my own .bb file since I will want to choose my own kernel version (maybe) May 09 12:57:18 * mickeyl upgrades svn to 1.3.1 May 09 12:57:25 unless there is one that alrady works for you May 09 12:57:38 I am not familar with the pxa stuff May 09 12:59:01 well I've been fallowing the kernel mods lately and it looks like the next minor version will have several patches for the PXA270 LogicPD board: http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=e9937d4b0a9382c4c78411d1c53e62be396ee9a9 May 09 12:59:07 mickeyl: it's killing me to wait till the 28th May 09 12:59:34 Crofton, so I suspect I will be well off to use the new kernel when it is out. May 09 13:00:34 NOTE: package phonegaim-1.0.2-1.0.0.50.linspire0.13-r0: task do_compile: started May 09 13:00:36 mithro: i can understand that... May 09 13:00:38 * koen crosses fingers May 09 13:01:54 afternoon May 09 13:03:15 Gerrath, so there isn't a kernel bb file already May 09 13:03:42 Crofton: no not that I'm aware of. May 09 13:04:23 Crofton, so I figure I will set it up like yours and apply the 2.6.17 patch (for now). May 09 13:04:35 cool May 09 13:04:49 #define mediawiki crap May 09 13:04:56 heh May 09 13:05:04 hrw|work: it even lacks a 'revert' option May 09 13:05:19 koen: and need 20M memory_limit for installation May 09 13:05:33 # Warning: PHP's safe mode is active. You may have problems caused by this, particularly if using image uploads. May 09 13:05:37 # PHP's memory_limit is 8M. If this is too low, installation may fail! Attempting to raise limit to 20M... failed. May 09 13:05:59 sites which we do here works without problems.. May 09 13:13:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4c843746... 10/packages/neon/ (neon_0.24.7.bb neon_0.25.5.bb neon_0.26.0.bb): neon: alter source while webdav is offline May 09 13:13:44 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rae510ec8... 10/packages/subversion/ (4 files in 2 dirs): subversion: upgrade to 1.3.1, fix staging May 09 13:14:37 koen: tested patch maybe? May 09 13:20:49 hrw|work: not yet May 09 13:21:02 ok May 09 13:21:28 koen: I plan to clean my hostap/orinoco hacks and send them one by one to mainline May 09 13:23:09 koen: who is the 'maf' that sent us a keyß May 09 13:23:10 ? May 09 13:23:20 mickeyl: nope May 09 13:23:31 and he isn't listed on that domain as a user either May 09 13:23:51 hmm May 09 13:26:32 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc62a2818... 10/packages/qsvn/qsvn_0.3.0.bb: add qsvn, a Qt4 based UI for subversion May 09 13:28:56 * XorA watches the stream of rats leaving the ship May 09 13:33:36 XorA: you're on a boat, or you just like nautical metaphots? May 09 13:33:43 metaphors* May 09 13:34:10 koen: this ship is sinking :-D May 09 13:35:20 * XorA needs to find someone to pay him to do OE work May 09 13:46:23 ~lart kword, abiword, kspread, gnumeric for not being OpenOffice.org May 09 13:46:24 * ibot_ slaps kword, abiword, kspread, gnumeric upside the head with a wet fish for not being OpenOffice.org May 09 13:48:30 hrw|work: gammu is cool? May 09 13:48:39 hrw|work: did you ever write anything with it? May 09 13:48:45 mickeyl: never May 09 13:49:04 * mickeyl needs a really cool phone comm. lib May 09 13:49:07 but it works, has some apps which use it, has python bindings May 09 13:49:37 koen: Do you know how many active developers we have atm? May 09 13:50:01 koen: looks like hrw answered in #openzaurus, sorry for the noise May 09 13:50:07 openembedded@merlin:~> mt list keys|wc -l May 09 13:50:08 56 May 09 13:50:13 ah, too late May 09 13:50:37 lardman|work: thanks for defending me on that thread. i should've better stayed quite May 09 13:50:40 quiet, even May 09 13:50:41 56, more than the 47 hrw said ;) Who's right? May 09 13:50:44 56? May 09 13:50:45 of which ~10 are *active*, and ~20 are active and the rest is 'active' May 09 13:50:59 mickeyl: not sure it was me actually May 09 13:51:05 heh May 09 13:51:19 46 here (mine was twice - pub/priv) May 09 13:51:32 koen: hehe, that's quite a cool categorization May 09 13:51:36 mickeyl: I had troubles with my reply, had to leave 1/2 hour before I posted it (and edited it to be lots nicer ;) ) May 09 13:51:53 hrw|work: yeah, you're probably right. wc -l gets a couple of bogus lines May 09 13:53:03 mickeyl: hrw|work has the keys that actually have resivions, you have all keys May 09 13:53:18 koen: ah right May 09 13:53:20 revisions* May 09 14:02:03 mmh May 09 14:02:17 * mickeyl just sent a student away who was looking for a diploma thesis May 09 14:02:30 it sucks to be stuck here without powers May 09 14:02:37 * mickeyl needs to finish May 09 14:02:55 XorA: it looks like libetpan doesn't like PARALLEL_MAKE May 09 14:03:21 XorA: I'm slightly worried that a threaded libetpan may break opie-mail May 09 14:03:29 * mickeyl needs to test that May 09 14:05:23 mickeyl: please do May 09 14:05:44 mickeyl: its a stupid typo that stopped threading building, but sylpheed requires it May 09 14:06:03 koen: you and your fancy machines :-) May 09 14:07:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r579c0540... 10/packages/libetpan/libetpan_0.45.bb: libetpan: disablle parallel make May 09 14:10:13 hrw|work: i guess we need to check do_stage of gammu May 09 14:10:15 | /local/pkg/oe/c7x0/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include/gammu/config.h:9:29: error: ../cfg/config.h: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden May 09 14:10:28 looks like it needs a cfg directory and a config.h May 09 14:10:37 ;( May 09 14:10:52 and less german errors ;) May 09 14:11:29 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r183a7abb... 10/packages/gammu/gammu_1.06.00.bb: gammu: inherit pkgconfig to install the .pc files May 09 14:11:38 yes yes my LOCALE settings suck for reporting errors :D May 09 14:11:51 hrw|work: I'm trying to add python-gammu May 09 14:12:34 Any reason not to go from 2.3.5+cvsblabla to glibc 2.4? May 09 14:13:09 hrw|work: could we perhaps just call autotools_stage_all? is gammu an autotools app? May 09 14:13:42 mickeyl: http://oe.pastebin.com/707435 May 09 14:14:30 koen: *cough* May 09 14:14:30 mickeyl: it is May 09 14:14:32 sorry 'bout that May 09 14:14:42 hrw|work: excellent. I'll check if that works May 09 14:14:44 KenJlime: 2.4 req kernel 2.6 May 09 14:18:32 someone tested ipkg .162? May 09 14:18:37 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rbf6b8c7e... 10/classes/base.bbclass: base.bbclass: remove bogus debug out. thanks koen for spotting. May 09 14:19:47 hrw|work: oki, but it should build with lets say 3.4.3 gcc..or something close..? May 09 14:21:06 KenJlime: maybe but I dont know May 09 14:22:03 Ill take it out for a spin and see what happens. May 09 14:22:48 why cant you find some html mail when you need it May 09 14:29:20 XorA: there should be a html mail appearing in your inbox right now ;) May 09 14:32:53 XorA: I have plenty of html spam I could send you? :) May 09 14:33:45 XorA: want me to add you to a couple of mailinglists? :P May 09 14:34:16 NOTE: package python-gammu-0.12: completed May 09 14:34:50 koen: cheers# May 09 14:35:13 I hope you like the colour(s) ;) May 09 14:40:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r1883049c... 10/packages/gammu/gammu_1.06.00.bb: gammu: fix staging, add NOTE for improvement May 09 14:40:40 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r20493679... 10/packages/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add python-gammu, the python bindings to the gammu phone comm. library May 09 14:41:12 ~lart ROAD for taking so long for releasing their Linux Phone May 09 14:41:13 * ibot_ forces ROAD for taking so long to use Outlook Express for releasing their Linux Phone May 09 14:42:56 hi May 09 14:46:40 hmm, it looks like the openezx project is slowly getting somewhere May 09 14:47:12 * mickeyl ponders May 09 14:47:17 * mickeyl checks A780 prices May 09 14:50:08 mickeyl: Of those developers we were talking about earlier, are all 46 involved in palmtop development, or is it split amongst the projects? May 09 14:50:33 lardman|work: http://oe.handhelds.org/people.php May 09 14:50:40 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r800e13b2... 10/packages/sylpheed/ (4 files): May 09 14:50:40 packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws-plugin-rssyl-0.4cvs8_2.2.0.bb : put version May 09 14:50:40 in so we can do new versions. May 09 14:50:40 packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws-plugin-gtkhtml2-viewer-0.10_2.2.0.bb : a May 09 14:50:40 HTML email renderer based on gtkhtml2 May 09 14:50:40 packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws-extra-plugins.inc : add more generic May 09 14:50:42 packaging. May 09 14:51:09 lardman|work: split. May 09 14:51:28 mickeyl: Rough guess as to the proportions? May 09 14:51:33 lardman|work: nslu2 team is big May 09 14:51:46 * lardman|work tries to make his reply on oesf reasonably bulletproof May 09 14:52:19 lardman|work: i'd estimate 40% palmtop, 40% nslu, 20% misc. gadgets (set top boxes, media boxes) etc. May 09 14:52:21 kergoth: ping May 09 14:52:30 mickeyl: Cool, thanks May 09 14:52:37 np May 09 14:52:39 mickeyl: don't forget companies with teams working one OE May 09 14:52:45 s/one/on/ May 09 14:52:48 mickeyl: 1 WRT54GL soon =) May 09 14:53:04 mjc: excellent .)) May 09 14:53:12 it's on openwrt now but eh May 09 14:53:18 my wrt is waiting for some OE based distro as well May 09 14:53:25 shouldn't be hard to squeeze OE May 09 14:53:32 and i want to add OE support for the Peplink MANGA and the Telegent TG100 May 09 14:53:45 mickeyl: Okay May 09 14:54:05 * XorA is now bored of sylpheed May 09 14:54:06 true, OE is used in R&D a lot May 09 14:54:12 but we have not much knowledge of these groups May 09 14:54:26 see 'success stories' on the wiki as well May 09 14:54:28 mickeyl: it's the second thing to tackle on my list after I get this stupid rails projectd one May 09 14:54:30 and for some we don't have 'official' knowledge May 09 14:54:37 =) May 09 14:54:39 mjc: cool May 09 14:54:43 koen: heh, right May 09 14:54:56 Maybe if you had a page called "unsuccess stories" May 09 14:55:05 failures? May 09 14:55:13 RP: does chris lord maintin directly or through you? May 09 14:55:13 hmm... the A780 costs 452,00 ¤ May 09 14:55:15 id10t errors, all of them! May 09 14:55:16 or 'supersecret success stories" May 09 14:55:17 bummer, that's beyond May 09 14:55:38 Lets see whether this douses or fans the flames :): http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19146&view=findpost&p=126292 May 09 14:55:47 XorA: he has an OE account, but the majority of O-hand patches go through Richard May 09 14:55:57 6http://thedailywtf.com/ May 09 14:56:00 -6 May 09 14:56:07 one of the gtkhtml2 patches has been applied upstream May 09 14:56:55 XorA: through me - he has an aversion to monotone May 09 14:57:12 lardman|bbiab: good post May 09 14:58:00 RP: one of the patches is I think in upstream cvs, should I nuke it in OE or email him? May 09 14:58:22 XorA: Which package? eds-dbus? May 09 14:59:40 RP: gtkhtml2 May 09 15:00:04 RP: fix-margin-inherit May 09 15:01:34 XorA: Mailing him is probably best in that case. Both poky and OE probably need an update. I know he did push a number of patches upstream for gtkhtml2 May 09 15:01:50 RP: cool May 09 15:01:51 good guy May 09 15:02:00 XorA: he is busy with exams at the moment so don't expect an immediate response though May 09 15:02:32 RP: fair enough, Ive got me local copy anyway May 09 15:02:41 the benifits of SCM May 09 15:03:37 XorA: You can drop it from OE if it works. I'm fairly sure that will be correct... May 09 15:03:50 Cwiiis: are you around? May 09 15:04:00 RP: Yup, what's up? May 09 15:04:13 ah, gtkhtml2 not working, I see May 09 15:04:43 RP: it works, I have sylpheed rendering html here May 09 15:04:48 XorA: That patch needn't be applied anymore, just nuke it May 09 15:05:14 Cwiiis: great, thanks :) May 09 15:05:25 mickeyl: I didn't realise I still had an OE account? :) May 09 15:05:36 Cwiiis: i think you do. I could be wrong though :) May 09 15:05:44 Cwiiis, XorA This is probably my fault as I suspect I forgot to sync something Chris asked me to :-( May 09 15:05:45 i lose track about all those keys May 09 15:05:48 I must check up on this at some point... May 09 15:06:05 WTF: BBFILES' while parsing .... May 09 15:06:14 yes, it lists a bbfile...but I see no problem in it May 09 15:06:18 Cwiiis: If you don't have an account, you could probably get one easily enough if you wanted ;-) May 09 15:06:27 RP: Ah yes, poky gtkhtml2 is a little more up-to-date, might want to sync to get iain's memory leak patch May 09 15:06:54 hhe, oops May 09 15:07:03 It says : ERROR: 'BBFILES' May 09 15:07:10 XorA: How does gtkhtml2 do compared to Evo's gtkhtml? May 09 15:07:31 and it parsed it just fine a minute ago.... May 09 15:07:43 Cwiiis: no idea, I was just enabling sylpheed-claws plugins one by one May 09 15:08:12 XorA: Ah :) Something I've been meaning to check out, I'm just finishing off my dissertation at the mo (which is pretty much on gtkhtml2) May 09 15:08:20 JustinP: can you pastebin please? May 09 15:08:27 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r23724b02... 10/packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_cvs.bb: packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_cvs.bb : remove patch that has been applied upstream. May 09 15:08:55 * XorA blames koen May 09 15:09:54 what did I do? May 09 15:10:07 koen: keep pasting in interesting URL's May 09 15:10:11 openomap distro uses glibc 2.3.5+cvs20050627, is there a better one to use these days? May 09 15:10:14 heh May 09 15:10:21 it uses gcc 3.4.4 May 09 15:10:36 adding 2.3.7 when it gets released would be nice May 09 15:10:39 XorA: You might want to sync with ours: http://svn.o-hand.com/view/poky/trunk/openembedded/packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_cvs.bb?rev=368&view=markup - There's an extra patch that fixes one (of many) huge memory leak May 09 15:10:45 Crofton: Its a stablitity vs. cutting edge tradeoff May 09 15:10:51 yeah May 09 15:11:07 I want the current answer that is stable :) May 09 15:11:23 Cwiiis: ok, will do May 09 15:11:43 * Crofton is procrastinating real work by worrying about non-problems .... May 09 15:12:17 <_law_> XorA, have you reported the sd bug? May 09 15:12:45 Should I just change it to glibc-2.4? May 09 15:13:02 mickeyl: hmmm....I guess it was an intermittent thing...it went away May 09 15:13:16 hey zecke May 09 15:13:30 njs: when do we expect to have two revs with the same rev name? May 09 15:13:48 njs: or can't it happen? May 09 15:13:58 koen: thanks for installing the script May 09 15:14:04 _law_: I have no real info, I asked RP about it May 09 15:14:09 I'm annoyed enough with .dev that I'm trying to build the newer e stuff in oz354x May 09 15:14:39 I keep having the Xserver hang, calibration crashing, etc.... May 09 15:15:02 Something in ./dev is broken atm and I wish I knew what... May 09 15:15:28 yeah May 09 15:15:54 I've tried my best to use PREfERRED_VERSIOn to fix things but I just don't have the patience any more for it May 09 15:16:28 I just want my newer e stuff to work so that I can switch my main 2.6 install over to something newer May 09 15:18:31 ~lart bitbake fo rnot pulling in entrance... May 09 15:18:31 * ibot_ cuts off bitbake fo rnot pulling in entrance...'s head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper May 09 15:19:50 JustinP: I resorted to using ts-calibrate instead of xtscal May 09 15:20:08 REDPENEDS => DEPENDS fix isn't in oz354x? May 09 15:20:21 JustinP: No May 09 15:20:30 * JustinP sighs May 09 15:20:35 oh well May 09 15:21:51 seems to be working now that I added some DEPENDS May 09 15:22:20 * JustinP often gets confused as to where bitbake stops and OE begins May 09 15:22:25 this DEPENDS thing for example May 09 15:22:45 probably part of base.bbclass I suppose May 09 15:23:52 JustinP: No, DEPENDS handling is a fundamental part of bitbake. Certain variables in .dev trigger the RDEPENDS handling. The oz branch is old and doesn't have the triggers May 09 15:24:08 It won't have them added either as too much would break May 09 15:25:20 yeah May 09 15:25:23 RP: I'm thinking about adding check on bb.version and refuse <1.4 or even <1.4.2 May 09 15:25:57 hrw|work: I wouldn't object. Its your call :) May 09 15:26:11 i think there may be some problems in translation. (wrt sash) May 09 15:26:29 he natively speaks his own language, (obscure) which he has to translate into russian May 09 15:26:31 JustinP: If hrw does that, you'd be free to add BUILD_ALL_DEPS = "1" to the e-image file and benefit from the RDEPENDS handling May 09 15:26:33 then from russian to english May 09 15:26:48 raduga: ? May 09 15:26:51 i think somewhere along the way hostility creeps in, or insanity, or something May 09 15:27:03 zecke: sorry. this is the wrong channel May 09 15:27:17 zecke: there was some discussion of "what is wrong with sash" earlier, i think May 09 15:27:26 but the appropriate channel is #/dev/null May 09 15:27:27 sorry May 09 15:27:29 raduga: no, no discussion May 09 15:27:33 * raduga goes to /dev/null May 09 15:27:58 RP: Not a big problem, the added DEPENDS are handling it May 09 15:29:21 cu May 09 15:31:29 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r04b4b8f5... 10/packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_cvs.bb: packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_cvs.bb : sync with poky May 09 15:32:27 XorA: I've just committed that locally :-/ May 09 15:33:12 cya May 09 15:34:29 XorA: Since we managed an identical update, it wasn't too painful :) May 09 15:37:28 * koen prepares for the next round of fdo changes May 09 15:37:36 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd6f338f3... 10/packages/gtkhtml2/gtkhtml2_cvs.bb: gtkhtml2: Add some fixes (Sync from poky) May 09 15:37:40 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rc62fafe1... 10/packages/dates/dates_svn.bb: dates: Update SRC_URI (Sync from poky) May 09 15:37:52 koen: What did they change now? May 09 15:38:02 their are changes servers May 09 15:38:12 right now lists.fd.o is down May 09 15:40:27 RP: heh heh, sorry May 09 15:42:28 XorA: My fault, I should have mentioned I was doing it... May 09 15:45:01 what is poky? May 09 15:45:27 http://projects.o-hand.com/poky May 09 15:45:47 ibot: poky is http://projects.o-hand.com/poky May 09 15:45:50 RP: okay May 09 15:46:21 anyway time for me to head to some DND hacking and slashing May 09 15:46:53 a+ May 09 16:04:15 Hello May 09 16:04:24 anyone know if kergoth places world of warcraft? May 09 16:04:56 plays even May 09 16:04:59 where'd places come frmo May 09 16:10:33 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9414b729... 10/packages/libgpevtype/libgpevtype_cvs.bb: libgpevtype cvs: bump PV May 09 16:12:16 * JustinP shudders May 09 16:12:22 worse than a crackberry May 09 16:15:09 mjc: He did for a least a brief period. Dunno if he still does May 09 16:15:27 ggilbert: looks to, he at least maintains a rather neat library May 09 16:15:40 JustinP: what is wrose May 09 16:15:55 ggilbert: or maintained as it were May 09 16:16:01 mjc: ? May 09 16:16:20 ggilbert: wowace.com's svn has 'kergoth' all in the svn logs May 09 16:16:40 ha May 09 16:17:50 nifty May 09 16:17:53 http://325i.org/wow is my lazy ass' attempt at making it easier to get at my character descriptions =P May 09 16:20:00 mjc: Kind of a funny coincidence since I had been look at ace a few days ago :p May 09 16:20:58 haha May 09 16:21:26 let me find the last mention May 09 16:27:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r63f72f9f... 10/packages/libhandoff/libhandoff_cvs.bb: add libhandoff May 09 16:41:42 is there a document describing the archetecture of OE? What does the database do, what are the .bb files and how do you edit them? How does MACHINE,DISTRO and .bb files get tied together? May 09 16:42:30 Gerrath: wiki is your best resource. May 09 16:42:34 look at the pair of tits on this! (SFW!!) http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/5513/look2wh8zf.jpg May 09 16:42:37 heh May 09 16:43:15 Gerrath: I would start with the papers: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/PapersAndPresentations May 09 16:43:50 cbrake, thanks. May 09 16:44:38 Gerrath: OE is basically a system that downloads source, creates shell scripts on the fly that build and package. May 09 16:44:56 sounds a lot like buildroot. May 09 16:45:02 Gerrath: that fact that OE creats shell scripts is kind of neat in that it really helps with debugging. May 09 16:52:31 mjc: MMORPGs May 09 16:53:04 JustinP: what about them May 09 16:53:50 ggilbert: 325/trunkkergoth21d 13h 30mTesting cia. May 09 16:53:58 so much for 'all over' them May 09 16:58:57 mjc: try reading back May 09 17:00:36 JustinP: I don't know what you are referencing it back to, there are two possible things =P May 09 17:09:59 mjc: MMORPGs are worse than a Crackberry May 09 17:10:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7a06f996... 10/packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass: glibc-packages.bbclass: make use ${libdir}/locale exits before trying to put stuff in it. Fixes i18n for non pregenerated locales May 09 17:17:30 JustinP: damn right May 09 17:23:48 JustinP: as I log on at work ;) May 09 17:28:04 cbrake, so it seems like OE does everything buildroot does and then some :) May 09 17:31:25 Gerrath: Yes, OE certainly has quite a few packages. Also provides some level on consistency as to how things should be done through the reuse of classes. May 09 17:33:02 Gerrath: but, doing anything anything off the beaten path usually involves a fair amount of work. May 09 17:34:07 cbrake, whats considered off the beaten path? Does that include a newer version of the kernel and/or kernel patches? May 09 17:35:17 Gerrath: usually an architecture that is not widely used and you usually have a some packages that won't build. May 09 17:35:40 * cbrake takes a call ... May 09 17:36:28 ahh, so doing it for a supported arch. such as PXA270 but with a different board (custom) is not off the beaten path. May 09 17:42:02 Gerrath: no, it should not be May 09 17:44:26 ok, I want to change the kernel used by a machine, I generated a .bb file for the new kernel version but now how do I tie that back to the build (MACHINE.conf) file? May 09 17:45:06 I looked in the MACHINE.conf file and there is a OLDEST_KERNEL argument but it does not seem to work. May 09 17:46:02 Gerrath: as long as you named it the same as the previous kernel that was being built but gave it a higher version it should work May 09 17:47:05 Original: mainstone-kernel_2.6.11.bb New: mainstone-kernel_2.6.17.bb May 09 17:47:22 otherwise PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel="myleetkernelname" May 09 17:47:31 changed mainstone.conf OLDEST_KERNEL from 2.6.11 to 2.6.17 May 09 17:48:36 OLDEST_KERNEL only signifies what the oldest kernel is that has support for the board May 09 17:50:25 koen: could you possibly apply bug 952. Starting from scratch with my OE installation, so I can track down every nasty bug one at a time May 09 17:54:08 Gerrath: ARM PXAs are one of the best supported processors in OE. May 09 17:55:09 Gerrath: it is ironic, but the last time I did an x86 build, I spent some time working through glibc build issues. May 09 17:56:52 Gerrath: I'm currently doing some work on a NSLU2. It is in great shape overall, but a few packages like CUPS and Python are not currently building, so I'm working through that right now. May 09 18:02:11 heh, we could really use some official maintainers for specific aspects of the metadata to take point on certain architectures and such May 09 18:02:23 ~today May 09 18:02:24 Tuesday sucks, because it follows Monday (see monday). May 09 18:03:57 should openslug build issues be logged in the OE or NSLU2 bug tracker? For this particular issue, the kernel image is a little too large for the flash partition, so the slugos-image is failing. May 09 18:04:29 i'm too outta the loop to answer that question, *shrug* May 09 18:04:37 on another note: http://www.thedailywtf.com/forums/71684/ShowPost.aspx May 09 18:06:39 hmm, nobody on the nslu2-developers maillist seems to have an opinion :-( May 09 18:10:10 isVeryNull May 09 18:10:12 *stab* May 09 18:11:55 * chouimat is back. May 09 18:14:37 I've forgotten how frustrated configure makes me May 09 18:14:45 heh May 09 18:16:33 sigh May 09 18:16:39 ok - so dialog is horribly broken May 09 18:31:30 question for the autoconf litterate in the room May 09 18:31:57 macro is doing a AC_DEFINE_UNQUOTED(HAVE_${cf_tr_func}) May 09 18:32:10 config.log shows the define being set correctly May 09 18:32:17 but its not appearing in the header files May 09 18:32:51 is there a known secret to making this work with newer autoconfs? May 09 18:43:25 CosmicPenguin: you should be seeing a warning about it being defined without a description. iirc, you need to either pass the description of that value to the define macro, or use .. what was it called.. AH_TEMPLATE or something to set it May 09 18:44:40 going off my crappy memory here, but i remember having to fix that in a lot of old autoconf scripts to work with newer versions May 09 18:45:15 kergoth: nod May 09 18:48:33 yeah, no complaints from autoreconf May 09 18:48:48 Could some kind soul please checkout bug 952 and 954 and commit them. May 09 18:50:35 953, too! :) May 09 18:52:42 haha May 09 18:55:18 hi May 09 18:55:27 KenJlime: I will do it May 09 19:01:30 ugh May 09 19:01:33 hackish! May 09 19:01:35 * CosmicPenguin goes to lunch May 09 19:02:10 hrw: hurrah :) May 09 19:02:27 RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb - what do you think about adding ^# mainline etc lines which will tell about status of used patches? May 09 19:03:03 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r21-hrw: task do_patch: completed May 09 19:03:32 hrw: Are #'s supposed to be supported inside quotes? May 09 19:03:38 That's the only reason I never did... May 09 19:03:50 RP: it works with any bitbake I tried May 09 19:04:12 hrw: I know it works - I think its a bug in the parser though ;-) May 09 19:04:18 RP: it can also be split to SRC_URI += blocks May 09 19:04:54 hrw: That could be an idea. Merged, Merging, Fixing up, Hacks :) May 09 19:06:24 RP: and Not-ours-but-useful-{merged|merging|fixing|hacks} May 09 19:06:29 cbrake, The original mainstone kernel bb was mainstone-kernel_2.6.11.bb, I created a new one called mainstone-kernel_2.6.17.bb, how do I get the mainstone build to use this new one? May 09 19:06:52 Gerrath: add: PREFERRED_VERSION_mainstone-kernel = "2.6.17" May 09 19:07:57 thanks hrw May 09 19:11:31 KenJlime: http://oe.pastebin.com/708006 is better iirc May 09 19:12:46 KenJlime: updated to -> if test "$TARGET_ARCH" = "sh3"; then May 09 19:12:55 RP: will you change it? May 09 19:14:53 KenJlime: what do you think about it? May 09 19:15:58 hrw: I don't want to end up with too many sections - it'll just get confusing May 09 19:17:35 hrw: I'll think. Some indication of what's happened to patches would be useful. You can see things have changed a bit if you look at the +git .bb :) May 09 19:18:38 RP: git nice.. May 09 19:19:15 hrw, when I do the rebuild with the new kernel, do I just delete the folowing files stamps/linux* May 09 19:19:28 RP: kind of "file://umba.patch;patch=1;merged=2.6.17-rc2" or "patch=1;sent_mainline=1;accepted_mainline=1" May 09 19:19:44 Gerrath: bitbake virtual/kernel -cclean;bitbake virtual/kernel May 09 19:20:07 that will remove the kernel and build it again? May 09 19:20:11 Gerrath: yes May 09 19:20:14 thanks. May 09 19:21:00 hrw: yeah looks good, but perhaps you should see if one could split it so that all "sh" machines does the same May 09 19:21:06 Just thought about that May 09 19:21:21 hi May 09 19:21:23 the problem should be the same for people having sh4 hardware for example, May 09 19:22:20 KenJlime: then provide me correct 'if' statement (I lack shell powers) - your version is wrong for !sh* builds May 09 19:22:25 wb zecke May 09 19:23:16 RP: would be good to have any description of patch state in patch itself or in recipe May 09 19:26:25 hrw: shouldnt "if "${TARGET_ARCH}" = "sh*" then...blabla cp /../.../sh/${TARGET_ARCH} /../.../sh" or something like that work? May 09 19:27:21 KenJlime: if it works for you.. May 09 19:27:54 zecke: How do you feel about comments embedded in SRC_URIs? May 09 19:28:14 hrw: They used a similiar expression in the linux-libc-headers files, so should do the trick. May 09 19:28:16 zecke: Should we allow a comment= tag? May 09 19:28:31 well you can add it already ;) May 09 19:28:45 zecke: I know ;-) May 09 19:29:10 zecke: I'm asking if you think its the nicest way to handle the issue... May 09 19:29:16 I can't see a better one... May 09 19:35:03 KenJlime: http://oe.pastebin.com/708051 May 09 19:35:57 re May 09 19:37:04 wb koen May 09 19:37:18 koen: want to check ABI kernel? May 09 19:37:53 not today May 09 19:37:56 ok May 09 19:37:59 I've powered down all toys May 09 19:39:57 I'm working on getting the LogicPD ZOOM for the PXA270 working, how do I submit my changes to the OE project? May 09 19:40:04 Gerrath: bugtracker May 09 19:40:16 Gerrath: separate patches May 09 19:40:20 ok, I guess I could have guessed that since that is how most project work :) May 09 19:40:26 hrw: looking good man May 09 19:42:36 KenJlime: pushed May 09 19:43:21 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r280971db... 10/packages/linux-libc-headers/linux-libc-headers_2.6.11.1.bb: linux-libc-headers: copy /include/asm/cpu-sh3 content to /include/asm - close #952 May 09 19:43:25 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * ref9a174e... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb: glibc 2.3.5-20050627: fix glibc build for superh archs - close #954 May 09 19:43:30 hrw: big thx May 09 19:44:19 hrw, The new kernel built great, thanks again. May 09 19:45:42 Gerrath: no problem May 09 19:45:52 KenJlime: no problem - it was easy fixes May 09 19:45:55 re May 09 19:46:02 when does RMK leave for holidays? May 09 19:46:05 next week? May 09 19:50:15 njs: ping (I hope to reach you this time) May 09 19:53:37 zecke: 21:28 * njs -> class May 09 19:55:16 he should ditch them ;) May 09 19:55:34 * zecke waited ~4 hours to get to talk to the lecturer... :} May 09 19:57:55 that sucks May 09 19:58:30 14-18h and then I went home ;) May 09 19:58:53 * hrw do reviews of soc May 09 19:59:04 I usually go home after my battery runs out May 09 19:59:17 which is ~4.5h May 09 19:59:22 hehe May 09 20:00:10 well next week we will try again... May 09 20:00:23 Power Accounting of the msp430 is my topic :} May 09 20:01:50 me starts with the physics assignment... May 09 20:01:58 * zecke puts the name on the paper May 09 20:02:50 hrw: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=7a06f9963adcfa8d79d252a651b665fb02d3d533 May 09 20:04:30 koen: mv does not create dir? May 09 20:04:40 it doesn't May 09 20:04:49 koen: push into .oz354x please May 09 20:04:55 I ran into that bug on my h2200 and hx4700 today May 09 20:05:09 I 'borrowed' my dads microdrive for swap May 09 20:07:15 Is it right that monotone lacks a 'copy'? May 09 20:07:51 zecke: yes May 09 20:08:15 zecke: iirc it's hard to implement with the current architecture May 09 20:08:15 koen: have you seen the 30% speed improvement on pull message? May 09 20:08:22 it is still hard? May 09 20:08:23 no? May 09 20:08:32 is that the delta inversion patch? May 09 20:08:39 no May 09 20:08:45 just better IO usage of sqlite, IIRC May 09 20:08:53 oh sorry 20% May 09 20:09:21 hmm May 09 20:09:32 I wouldn't have expected IO to be a problem on initial pull May 09 20:09:39 if my term wouldn't mind 'APPLE+V' May 09 20:09:50 koen: well ext3 and sqlite3 are rumored to have issues with each other May 09 20:09:59 * koen uses xfs May 09 20:10:11 * hrw has xfs/ext3/reiserfs May 09 20:10:13 reiserfs would be better in theory May 09 20:10:27 ;) May 09 20:10:28 03koen 07org.oe.oz354x * rfb1c641b... 10/packages/glibc/glibc-package.bbclass: glibc-package.bbclass: add r7a06f9963adcfa8d79d252a651b665fb02d3d533 from .dev to fix i18n till OZ switched to pregenerated ones May 09 20:10:30 hehe May 09 20:10:32 but reiserfs changed it on disk format one to many times May 09 20:10:42 s/to/too/ May 09 20:11:10 cherrypatch branch? May 09 20:11:26 koen: http://viewmtn.angrygoats.net/revision.psp?id=54bba40d63b8f4bd8103cf1049b3045a162e540a May 09 20:12:01 njs did mention that cherrypicking would open the way to copy iirc May 09 20:12:49 is it possible to have two mentors for one project? May 09 20:13:05 dunno May 09 20:13:20 we had last year May 09 20:13:24 back to physics May 09 20:13:25 I probably could mentor OPIE/GPE PIM storage unification but only on OPIE side May 09 20:24:42 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb18d91ac... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (2 files in 2 dirs): wireless-tools: Add updated script by Stefan Tomanek to fix dhcp problems with devices which need some time for association. May 09 20:24:54 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r7cbb3ccb... 10/packages/meta/task-gpe.bb: task-gpe: add gpe-windowlist May 09 20:26:39 hrw: did google select stuff yet? May 09 20:27:40 not yet May 09 20:28:05 you'll here it on the 28th iirc May 09 20:31:02 eagerly awaiting this May 09 20:31:37 I bet they take the one ranked +88888 May 09 20:32:13 koen: or +666 May 09 20:32:41 koen: it is not THAT bad May 09 20:41:01 03florian 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r92cab509... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (2 files in 2 dirs): wireless-tools: Add updated script by Stefan Tomanek to fix dhcp problems with devices which need some time for association. May 09 20:48:24 Steven Seagal time May 09 20:48:41 ~lart homework May 09 20:48:41 * ibot strangles homework with a 9-pole serial cable May 09 20:49:49 you guys do take vacations? May 09 20:50:57 vacation? May 09 20:52:00 Crofton: what is it? May 09 20:52:23 it's that thing you do to have a life May 09 20:53:07 bah May 09 20:53:10 life is overrated May 09 20:53:19 I go to mexico, I spend all the money I made not having a life May 09 20:53:22 where's the fun in that? May 09 20:54:40 * Crofton has tickets to Europe this summer May 09 20:55:04 I love that band! May 09 20:55:10 heh May 09 20:55:20 Crofton: so they're letting you out of the country finally? May 09 20:55:22 Munich, thence to Northern Italy May 09 20:55:26 May 19 May 09 20:55:31 more importantly, back in May 09 20:55:32 Where in Northern Italy? May 09 20:55:39 Dolimites May 09 20:55:45 dunno exactly where yet May 09 20:55:45 the north part May 09 20:55:48 Beautiful country May 09 20:56:12 I watch the bicycle race, the view looks good May 09 20:56:37 If I ever get accused of tax evasion, you'll find me in a villa on the shores of Lago Maggiore May 09 20:56:56 *writes down* May 09 20:57:06 that'll be handy when it comes time to blackmail you May 09 20:57:18 Heh.. :) May 09 21:00:24 * Crofton hearts diff and patch May 09 21:09:35 * RP likes northern Italy and the dolomites... May 09 21:10:33 At a quick first glance, I read sodomites May 09 21:13:55 cu May 09 21:17:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r7c2d7eb2... 10/packages/pcmciautils/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Add pcmciautils 013 including patches to remove hardcoded paths and a workaround for the toolchain bug that causes pccardctl to segfault May 09 21:17:22 RP, do you have any suggestions? May 09 21:19:39 Crofton: Nothing specific. I stayed at Garda and there are some nice places around the lake. The dolo mites are quite spectacular and worth seeing although quite a distance from Lake Garda. I also liked some of the small valleys above the lake but you'd need a car to get to them May 09 21:20:07 Crofton: I plan to take a motorbike there are some point :) May 09 21:24:06 We plan to stay in the dolomites proper and walk about May 09 21:24:13 also try the via ferrata May 09 21:25:31 You should enjoy it :) May 09 21:25:40 hope so :) May 09 21:36:13 nite guys May 09 21:37:10 night May 09 21:39:04 'night zecke May 09 21:41:34 There are quite alot of SuperH related issues when building, when I add a bugreport, is it okey to add a {SuperH} to the title, so i can easily keep track on what im working on? May 09 21:42:37 yes May 09 21:42:42 (at least for me) May 09 21:43:37 Oki, will do that then. Havent run across anyone else but me working on superh, so would be good atleast for me to be able to search easily May 09 21:43:39 KenJlime: It sounds like a good idea May 09 21:43:48 thx May 09 21:49:08 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r4965a190... 10/packages/xlibs/ (5 files): xlibs various -native packages: Correct set FILESDIR. (from poky) May 09 22:02:14 oooh, a new pcmciautils May 09 22:03:23 koen|tv: any improvments? May 09 22:03:35 haven't tested yet May 09 22:04:06 I've scheduled some OE time tomorrow while I wait for the central heating to get fixed May 09 22:04:33 "we'll be there between 1 and 6" May 09 22:05:52 haha May 09 22:06:28 26 degrees C outside and the heating doesn't shut off :/ May 09 22:07:33 Ouchi, will be a hot night then May 09 22:07:51 that's why we have windows :) May 09 22:13:35 * koen|tv attempts to adapt the OE logo to be printable May 09 22:34:33 Im currently working on familiar-unstable, but is any cvs freeze set for familiar stable? May 09 22:35:09 'night all May 09 23:38:24 * CosmicPenguin looks for proof that gcc 4.0.X passes secret sauce to link binaries that LD doesn't May 09 23:39:14 all versions of gcc do that May 09 23:40:19 empirical "proof" is pretty easy: do "gcc -v hello.c -o hello" and look at the link command that it runs May 09 23:41:04 I guess a formal proof that it does this in all cases would be harder May 09 23:41:13 One of my co-workers is compiling some benchmark May 09 23:41:31 that used LD to link the binaries, and its breaking all over the place with 4.0.2 May 09 23:41:47 and he won't take "just use gcc and get on with your life" for an answer May 09 23:42:07 sounds like you should fire him and get a better co-worker. May 09 23:42:24 I feel dumb I can't explain the problem to him though May 09 23:42:26 "just use gcc and get on with your life" is indeed the right answer. May 09 23:42:39 heh, yeah, fair enough May 09 23:43:23 At one time, you could use ld to link together .o files, could you not? May 09 23:43:33 to make one big .o file, you mean? May 09 23:43:37 I mean, to make a real ELF binary May 09 23:43:58 you could do it in the sense that it sometimes worked, yeah. It was never a good idea. May 09 23:45:43 * pb_ bedtime now May 09 23:45:45 night night May 10 00:24:39 hmm... can't ASSUME_PROVIDED perl-native if you are going to build perl May 10 00:49:57 eabi and strongarm - is the only issue thumb interworking? May 10 03:46:16 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r2c0dc71f... 10/packages/altboot/files/ (poodle/altboot-2.6.cfg tosa/altboot-2.6.cfg): altboot: Add Poodle and Tosa kernel 2.6 configs May 10 04:02:19 hmm, someone maybe should tell zecke that if he's never going to be around at the same time as me, then maybe IRC isn't the best medium :-) May 10 04:22:29 <_law_> bbl May 10 05:11:21 moin moin May 10 07:04:40 yoplaboom May 10 07:05:52 <__law__> hi is there any tool send http posts via commandline ? May 10 07:09:14 curl? wget? May 10 07:11:08 <__law__> NAbyss, can i POST via wget ? May 10 07:14:46 __law__: Not quite sure; I would have thought it'd bea ble to by this level of maturity May 10 07:15:06 --post-data=string May 10 07:15:07 --post-file=file May 10 07:15:07 Use POST as the method for all HTTP requests and send the specified May 10 07:15:07 data in the request body. "--post-data" sends string as data, May 10 07:15:07 whereas "--post-file" sends the contents of file. Other than that, May 10 07:15:09 they work in exactly the same way. May 10 07:15:17 <__law__> NAbyss, thanks May 10 07:29:15 morning May 10 07:48:39 morning May 10 07:52:03 morning all May 10 07:59:49 morning May 10 08:00:34 Good day May 10 08:04:24 good morning all May 10 08:22:15 someone has spare battery cover for c7x0 with small battery? May 10 08:37:50 only a spare battery May 10 08:37:57 which doesn't have too much juice May 10 08:38:41 ok xora got one May 10 09:09:41 hi May 10 09:11:02 hey zecke May 10 09:12:21 ljp: message me if you are around May 10 09:12:55 * koen edits his GSoC proposal May 10 09:13:13 oh, switching to pdaxrom? May 10 09:14:44 yes, all my patches will contain armv5 asm to be optimally portable May 10 09:15:08 I wonder when they switch to XCB May 10 09:15:18 as it is not as bloated as xlib :} May 10 09:18:10 it's only 8kb smaller in the tests pH5 and I did May 10 09:18:20 bloat May 10 09:18:42 and still 3 times as big as diet-x11 May 10 09:19:08 that is bad May 10 09:19:34 x11: 520k x11-xcb:512k diet-x11: 160k May 10 09:24:24 diet-xcb is? May 10 09:24:33 i though encodings and such were left out May 10 09:27:57 afaik there isn't a diet xcb yet May 10 09:34:39 'That's only a microkernel if your degree is in marketing.' May 10 09:35:04 * koen gets back to optical waveguides May 10 09:35:06 ? May 10 09:35:19 hehe, I'm at my assignment ATM as well May 10 09:35:21 "MacOS has that sharing address space with the monolithic BSD kernel. So a semi-microkernel and a monolithic kernel are firmly bolted together." May 10 09:35:33 http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/06/05/10/0439246.shtml May 10 09:46:28 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rd772bac3... 10/packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws-plugin-maildir-0.22_2.2.0.bb: packages/sylpheed/sylpheed-claws-plugin-maildir-0.22_2.2.0.bb : new plugin **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 10 09:59:58 2006