**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 10 09:59:58 2006 May 10 10:01:09 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9ef3a8d3... 10/packages/python/ (python-2.4.3-manifest.inc python_2.4.3.bb): python: package UserList and UserString in python-core. fixes #949 May 10 10:02:07 <_schurig> mickeyl: stop, write at your diss! May 10 10:07:50 he doesn't listen May 10 10:08:33 but we can try :) May 10 11:13:20 zecke: fixing .deb generating is near the bottom of my OE todo list May 10 11:14:49 is that a circular system? May 10 11:15:13 Anyone know of a way to determine what dialect an arm binary is? (i.e. whether it's arm4 or arm5, etc.) May 10 11:15:17 food May 10 11:17:32 lardman|work: other than disassembling it, you can't May 10 11:18:11 lardman|work: execute it on a arm4 May 10 11:20:07 zecke: Yes, I'd thought of that, but my issue is the other way round - I want to execute on arm5 and would like to know whether I need to rebuild in the hope of making it faster May 10 11:20:10 zecke: good thinking, though it would be hard to prove that you have executed all instructions May 10 11:20:17 pb__: Okay, thanks May 10 11:20:29 In fact sometimes they just work anyway May 10 11:20:36 arm5 binary on arm4 May 10 11:21:00 sure, it'll work fine as long as you don't try to execute any non-armv4 instructions May 10 11:21:21 with a modern version of gcc, it's pretty unlikely that any -march=armv5 binary will run in a useful way on armv4 though May 10 11:21:37 Presumably, simple programs sometimes don't contain arm5 instructions then? May 10 11:21:44 indeed May 10 11:21:46 Where simple is things like benchmarks, etc. May 10 11:23:50 yes, though since gcc 4.0 (or so) -march=armv5 implies -mthumb-interwork, which will generally make the program unusable on v4. May 10 11:24:05 in theory it would be possible for some programs to continue working, but I imagine it would be quite rare May 10 11:24:48 Ah, those benchmarks were gcc3 May 10 11:25:13 how much to armv4t and armv5t differ in thumbinstructions? May 10 11:29:30 not much. offhand, the only difference I can think of is BLX. May 10 11:30:34 zecke: SRCDATE = 'now' is broken on the stable branch May 10 11:30:35 oh, and BKPT I suppose May 10 11:30:53 koen: broken? May 10 11:31:17 zecke: it creates tarballs in DL_DIR and uses that in subsequent runs May 10 11:31:45 koen: was never working May 10 11:59:25 koen: I have a patch in my svk branch May 10 11:59:52 for 'now' or debs? May 10 12:00:46 'now' May 10 12:17:03 <_schurig> lardman|lunch: maybe you can use arm-linux-objdump and see anything inside it, e.g. something in the header that is different for armv4 compared to armv5 May 10 12:19:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r314e9e28... 10/packages/libmimedir/ (files/mimedir-duration.diff libmimedir_0.3.1.bb): libmimedir 0.3.1: add patch by Neal Walfield to fix importing of ics files generated by Apples iCal May 10 12:21:10 <_schurig> hrw|work: did you do some Agere wlags work? May 10 12:22:35 schurig: no May 10 12:29:27 <_guillermo> hi I switched from .dev to .oz354x, and with .dev I could compile everything with no probs, but if I change my local.conf to point to oz354x I get a lot of errors like this May 10 12:29:39 <_guillermo> ERROR: anonymous function: EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1) May 10 12:30:08 <_guillermo> what's the diff between .dev and .oz354x (in terms of local.conf)? May 10 12:31:41 <_guillermo> I am using bitbake 1.3.3.2 btw May 10 12:31:47 use 1.4.3 May 10 12:32:03 I will add check for <1.4 soon May 10 12:32:11 or http://prdownload.berlios.de/bitbake/bitbake-1.4.2.tar.gz May 10 12:34:19 <_guillermo> got it May 10 12:34:21 <_guillermo> thx May 10 12:41:32 <_guillermo> wow!! the new bitbake cache really rocks!!! May 10 12:41:55 rock solid :} May 10 12:44:06 hehe, enemy territory May 10 12:44:23 o.. sashz here May 10 12:44:42 anyone here want help me with u-boot debugging? May 10 12:45:00 i need tester with C1000/3100/3200 May 10 12:45:16 sashz: no testers with c7x0? :( May 10 12:45:47 sashz: hi, do you know the jtag pinout for these devices? May 10 12:46:50 jtag for Z is simple - you need tcx3106 connector and few wires May 10 12:47:04 zecke: z can be reflashed without jtag May 10 12:47:21 hrw|work: so you have two bootloaders on them? May 10 12:47:44 zecke: primary in NOR, secondary in NAND iirc May 10 12:48:40 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/709291 - quoted from sashz mail May 10 12:50:42 will good if tester also with serial cable May 10 12:51:26 I don't have such a device May 10 12:55:24 hrw|work: ewi crossed the 300GB of traffic :) May 10 12:56:49 nice May 10 12:57:43 ~95% is of that is OZ related May 10 12:57:45 okay, koen May 10 12:57:56 ~95% May 10 12:57:58 i guess 95% is of that is OZ related May 10 12:58:08 ibot: forget 95% May 10 12:58:08 hrw|work: i forgot 95% May 10 12:58:12 ~95% May 10 12:58:14 0.95 May 10 13:01:45 re May 10 13:16:58 hrw|work: could you check which libmimedir OZ uses? if it uses the release, could you put r2 in the feeds? May 10 13:18:00 koen: wow up to 72 May 10 13:18:15 72? May 10 13:18:24 72 results May 10 13:18:28 ah May 10 13:21:32 03koen 07org.oe.oz354x * r9c7821d2... 10/packages/libmimedir/ (files/mimedir-duration.diff libmimedir_0.3.1.bb): libmimedir 0.3.1: sync with .dev May 10 13:21:45 how long should we keep that survey up? May 10 13:21:48 another two weeks? May 10 13:21:58 'Mai' May 10 13:22:09 to say auf Deutch May 10 13:22:13 +s May 10 13:26:52 hi all May 10 13:27:19 hi florian_kc May 10 13:27:36 hey florian_kc May 10 13:28:02 I should modify my default channel list :-) May 10 13:31:07 pwgen: you lost something on your way from #gpe to #oe ;-) May 10 14:08:03 are there any tricks to compile DISTRO=generic and MACHINE = "x86" ? May 10 14:11:10 pwgen: sorry don't know :( May 10 14:11:16 pwgen: are you getting errors? May 10 14:11:41 ah x86 machine does exist May 10 14:11:55 it is not using nptl (which could be an issue) May 10 14:12:12 and generic does exist as well May 10 14:20:01 lol when installing scratchbox May 10 14:20:10 it asks you to install old-old-stable :} May 10 14:23:30 hmm, nslu2 kernels build (through OE) on an AMD64 system are 32620 bytes larger than a kernel build on a 32bit linux system. Anyone else ever run into anything like this? May 10 14:23:43 cbrake: yes, that's a bug in gcc May 10 14:24:55 koen: is there any workaround, or should I just pull a few things out until things get resolved? May 10 14:25:00 cbrake: and iirc the answer of the gcc people was 'use a newer gcc' May 10 14:25:18 cbrake: is uname32 making a difference? May 10 14:26:21 zecke: what is uname32? May 10 14:26:28 linux32 May 10 14:26:34 ah linux32 :} May 10 14:26:44 I'm not that often on 64 bit machines May 10 14:29:41 * XorA really should check size of his Z kernel vs 32bit machine compilked one May 10 14:30:35 hmmif x86 dont exist for what use is build/conf/machine/x86.conf ? May 10 14:33:46 zecke: OK, I'll give linux32 a try sometime. May 10 14:34:27 do many people using OE on a 64bit Linux build machine? May 10 14:34:40 I use a 32bit user space :) May 10 14:34:52 cbrake: I use 64bit user space May 10 14:35:10 pwgen: why do you say it does not exist? May 10 14:35:15 did I say that? May 10 14:35:41 yes May 10 14:36:09 i stuck at compiling libc-intermediate-2.3.2+cvs20040726 May 10 14:36:21 gcc too old .. 4.02 May 10 14:36:51 ahh not to old .. bad May 10 14:38:45 cbrake: just checked size of an OZ release kernel vs kernel I use, and looks like I suffer the size inflation as well :-) May 10 14:38:58 pwgen: last time I built x86, I ran into several problems. If I recall, I had to set PREFERRED_VERSION_gcc-cross-initial = "3.4.4" May 10 14:39:45 in local.conf or x86.conf or it is the same ... ? May 10 14:40:11 pwgen: does not matter -- local.conf is fine. May 10 14:40:38 i' ll try it .. May 10 14:43:26 okay cya May 10 14:43:34 it is too hot to continue to stay in front of the computer May 10 14:48:08 * koen agrees with zecke May 10 14:57:31 hi May 10 15:05:23 stupid mosquitos May 10 15:12:54 hi May 10 15:13:57 hi mickeyl May 10 15:14:13 now that i'm unemployed I need to write a resume May 10 15:14:15 I hate that May 10 15:14:22 * mickeyl does it anyway May 10 15:14:59 mickeyl: oh dear, that's no fun May 10 15:15:13 writing how cool I am and how many things I did *sigh* May 10 15:15:18 yeah May 10 15:15:22 your university finally threw you out? May 10 15:15:37 yep. the 5 years are over since 1th of May May 10 15:15:42 hey mickeyl May 10 15:15:45 ah, right May 10 15:15:48 eat up all extension periods :)) May 10 15:15:58 heh :-) May 10 15:16:09 * mickeyl starts with "Open Source Experience" May 10 15:16:20 Sub-category May 10 15:16:22 battles fought May 10 15:16:25 hehe May 10 15:18:59 cu May 10 15:19:09 cu hrw May 10 15:23:24 cbrake: doesnt help "This configuration not matched in ../abi-tags" error May 10 15:23:26 could anyone have a quick glance at http://www.vanille.de/personality/resume.html ? May 10 15:23:31 is there something really bad? May 10 15:23:59 you should smile more on the picture May 10 15:24:03 heh May 10 15:24:52 no one developer with ZAurus SL-Cxx00 and serial cable? May 10 15:25:21 3000 here. never tried to attach my serial to it though May 10 15:25:40 hehe May 10 15:25:52 it's hidden beyond that dumb rubber thing May 10 15:26:00 (the port, that is May 10 15:26:01 ) May 10 15:26:21 i need tester. U-boot works for me, but nothing for others. May 10 15:26:46 I suspect where is problem, but want look it "as is" May 10 15:27:16 i can give it a shot at the weekend May 10 15:27:22 not much time earlier May 10 15:27:30 where can i download? May 10 15:28:09 wait, i will look for other ppl, i think fix it in few days - today-tomorrow May 10 15:28:22 c-1000 here with serial May 10 15:28:23 ok. May 10 15:28:28 ( running ) May 10 15:28:33 mickeyl, resume looks good May 10 15:28:34 oh nice May 10 15:28:42 Crofton: thanks May 10 15:28:45 you want be extreme tester? May 10 15:28:53 http://ossie.mprg.org/~balister/pll.png May 10 15:29:14 pwgen, you need make NAND backup before testing May 10 15:29:31 Crofton: cool, what's that? May 10 15:29:44 *G* then t need more time than i havbe now .. May 10 15:30:05 uboot for zaurus ? .... May 10 15:30:06 pll behavior May 10 15:30:08 my wrk May 10 15:30:18 pwgen, yes May 10 15:31:02 i have maybe time at 23:00 this night May 10 15:31:20 what your time now? May 10 15:31:28 my - ~ 22:50 May 10 15:31:44 what i have to do . the D+M nand backup and then ... May 10 15:32:14 my time is now 17:44 May 10 15:32:19 D+M for nand backup, than http://mail.pdaxrom.org/download/1.1.0beta4/Zaurus-Cxx00/pdaXrom-1.1.0beta4-Kathrin-u-boot-akita-current.zip May 10 15:32:31 format SD or CF to FAT16 May 10 15:33:06 and unzip files: u-boot.bin emergenc.bin updater.pro to card May 10 15:33:13 ill have one free 512 MB CF .. for backup use May 10 15:33:44 than with C + D, flash new bootloader May 10 15:33:52 ill try it this night .. May 10 15:33:56 connect serial cable, setup 115200 May 10 15:34:53 you must see u-boot , with 1 sec delay at startup, quickly press anykey in serial console for enter in u-boot cmdline May 10 15:35:30 i'll try add pxa video and keyboard too u-boot now May 10 15:36:11 pwgen, you use icq? May 10 15:36:23 yes 2601227 May 10 15:36:33 .. gaim ...now ... May 10 15:37:10 i added you May 10 15:37:15 you see me? May 10 15:37:42 no sorry . May 10 15:37:48 i have no serial cable May 10 15:38:10 i could hear you .. May 10 15:38:29 wait just a moment May 10 15:38:42 sashz: isn't the place to discuss this #cacko or something? May 10 15:39:07 nah May 10 15:39:11 Uboot is interesting for us all May 10 15:39:14 mickeyl: ok :) May 10 15:39:18 any. u-boot independent from roms or buildsystems May 10 15:39:19 when this works out we would have a cool bootloader May 10 15:39:26 okok May 10 15:39:29 :) May 10 15:39:33 roms? May 10 15:39:40 those are so 1980s May 10 15:39:41 rams roms, riims May 10 15:39:43 yes roms roms roms roms May 10 15:39:46 hehe May 10 15:39:55 every cool kid uses writable images nowadays May 10 15:40:15 btw... how's our cramfs support doing? May 10 15:40:20 (or is it cromfs?) May 10 15:40:29 koen, archos fire fuses on their devices after my hacks May 10 15:40:40 so rom rom rom May 10 15:40:49 * mickeyl chuckles May 10 15:40:56 burning rom(e) May 10 15:41:02 devices - i mean on flashes May 10 15:42:04 how do you find the archos? May 10 15:42:20 i made russian firmware for them May 10 15:42:30 re May 10 15:42:35 koen: i never was the "cool" kid May 10 15:42:37 koen: have you ever tried scratchbox? May 10 15:42:49 koen: bullies always threatened to beat me up May 10 15:42:58 wb zecke May 10 15:44:08 mickeyl: hey May 10 15:44:25 zecke: yeah, and got fed up with it May 10 15:44:37 zecke: it's linux-from-scratch all over again May 10 15:45:13 koen: it is garmone :} May 10 15:45:31 *food* May 10 15:48:55 ~bon appetit May 10 15:49:01 well, bon appetit is smacznego. Guten Appetit. Eet Smakelijk. God Appetitt. Buon Appetito. Buen apetito Bom Apetite. buen apetito May 10 15:50:28 zecke: good idea May 10 15:50:34 *food* May 10 15:55:09 a+ May 10 16:03:31 back to the assignment May 10 16:16:40 more AMD64 problems ... tk does not build on 64 bit host, but will build on 32 bit. May 10 16:17:43 cbrake: we have a AMD64 meta bug, I thought we had good progress on it :} May 10 16:18:04 CosmicPenguin: could you help us getting a shell account on a AMD64 machine? May 10 16:24:57 * cbrake checks out the AMD64 meta bug ... May 10 16:29:56 zecke: I'm sorry, but I don't know anybody that has a public AMD64 machine like that May 10 16:30:29 I can ask around to see if we do, but that doesn't seeem like something AMD would approve of - knowing my past history with our fine IT folks May 10 16:30:39 heh May 10 16:31:16 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r383f54bb... 10/packages/blueprobe/ (blueprobe-0.17/h2200-fixup.patch blueprobe_0.17.bb): blueprobe 0.17: fix serial port path on h2200 May 10 16:32:58 hehe May 10 16:33:06 did sf.net had a compile farm? May 10 16:33:52 wow they run FreeBSD 4.8 :} May 10 16:35:28 oh and one should stay below 1gb :( May 10 17:15:12 hey, just disoverd this page: http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/NonWorkingPackages May 10 17:15:16 this surely looks good ! May 10 17:15:48 actually I was looking for info whether oe supports the GP2X (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GP2X) May 10 17:16:41 effem not now May 10 17:16:53 want to add support? May 10 17:17:06 there was some how made an integration but didnt provide patches May 10 17:17:11 all you need is a kernel and a pocket full of dreams May 10 17:17:27 still considering if I want to buy one; oe support would be a + on the buying decision May 10 17:17:58 eur/usd 189 ukp 129 or so May 10 17:18:27 might see if I can trick my boss into ordering one ... May 10 17:18:32 effem there are people who take the samba.ipk convert it to zip and put on websites May 10 17:18:39 for the gp2x May 10 17:22:45 actually I was unaware of the gp2x, but bumped into it when searching for an affordable system with an intel 2700g in it (but perhaps the best I found for that one is a dell axiom pda) May 10 17:24:04 are there any opensource drivers for the 2700g yeat? May 10 17:24:42 no idea May 10 17:26:19 what I am missing most on my slug is the ability to playback jpeg and video (mpeg2/4), even considered marrying my slug with a wma11b .... May 10 17:26:32 that would at least give jpeg May 10 17:28:23 what about hooking up a sigma chip to a usb bridge? May 10 17:28:48 i'm not that good in hw ... May 10 17:29:19 i've been trying to get a sigma 8634 reference board but with little success May 10 17:29:45 the sigma 862x family has an arm cpu without mmu, the 8634 has a 300 mhz mips May 10 17:29:48 with mmu May 10 17:30:12 cute May 10 17:30:19 are the sigma drivers in the open source? May 10 17:30:53 i've not given up on the 8634, but supply is still limited May 10 17:33:42 sigma has a bad record on opengl compliance May 10 17:33:53 didn't they use ffmpeg with saying? May 10 17:33:58 s/opengl/gpl/ May 10 17:35:01 Anyone familiar with the perl building issue "sed: can't read config.sh-sh3-linux: No such file or directory" May 10 17:35:17 check the .bb May 10 17:35:23 it does some magic with files May 10 17:35:32 oki, thx May 10 17:35:33 probably a missing file in perl or in OE May 10 17:38:35 koen on ffmpeg: no idea, they have a dedicated gfx processor May 10 17:38:37 koen: btw, how can I get bitbake to be more verbose when building, Im having some issues compiling gcc. Looks like the configure script runs like crazy creating more and more. But i cannot see what its having issues with May 10 17:38:46 -D -D -D May 10 17:39:01 need a reboot, back later May 10 17:39:05 thanks May 10 17:47:04 effem the greatest showstopper for the gp2x is the 2.4 kernel May 10 17:56:37 koen: looks like the config.sh-{arch} is a saved configure file instead of letting perl do the configure. Not sure on how I can create one for sh3 though May 10 17:58:01 oh and is it possible to do an bitbake t* building all packages beginning with t*? May 10 17:58:17 bitbake -i May 10 17:58:23 parse ; build t* May 10 17:58:56 eh, how you mean? May 10 17:59:19 bitbake -i May 10 17:59:26 woglinde: 2.4 didn't exctly stop the Zaurus show May 10 17:59:31 though it has slowed it down, a bit May 10 17:59:47 koen: ah thx May 10 17:59:55 raduga but they ported the crappy usb driver from sa1100 to mmsp2 May 10 18:00:12 raduga an specially for you arm on 2.4 is dead May 10 18:00:13 ug May 10 18:00:30 KenJlime: if it errors out, type 'pastelog' to send it to pastebin automagically :) May 10 18:00:39 KenJlime: up to ~1k lines that is May 10 18:00:54 woglinde: what i mean is, "just because Sharp ships the Z with 2.4, doesn't make the machine wholly useless" May 10 18:01:00 :D kewl May 10 18:01:20 but if gp2x doesn't have a slew of RP-type people, it could be a problem May 10 18:02:13 raduga in the gp2x area are lots of people, who dont know the GPL May 10 18:02:27 that's not so good May 10 18:03:16 ~emulate zautrix May 10 18:03:18 this is exactly what the GPL is about. grab the stuff and run away May 10 18:03:36 koen *g* May 10 18:03:50 cute May 10 18:03:58 no idea who zautrix is, but the quote is nice May 10 18:10:25 Anyone having issues with building busybox 1.01? May 10 18:27:35 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re3bc99ef... 10/packages/wxwidgets/wxwidgets_2.6.3.bb: add wxWidgets, a cross platform application framework May 10 18:27:39 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra3dbfe01... 10/packages/qxmp/qxmp_1.0.bb: add Qxmp, a Qt4 media player based on MPlayer May 10 18:41:28 re May 10 18:47:01 Ciao all May 10 18:47:07 tschau piggi May 10 18:48:06 Buona sera Pigi May 10 18:48:25 anyone knows why build an opie-image for h3900 bitbake choose linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.11-r0 as kernel ? May 10 18:48:37 buona sera koen, your italian is improving ;) May 10 18:48:51 pigi because it is the first in choices of kernels May 10 18:49:07 hi Pigi May 10 18:49:10 haha May 10 18:49:25 KenJlime: what sh3 machines are there in OE? May 10 18:49:25 it chooses it because its an uber kernel May 10 18:49:32 gosh. Could this be fixed by some preferred_something I suppose May 10 18:49:35 hi florian May 10 18:49:48 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "opensimpad-64+0" May 10 18:49:57 koen: one, jornada6xx, although it should work fine for some 5xx,4xx and 3xx May 10 18:49:59 heh May 10 18:50:09 pigi choose some simliar for the h3900 May 10 18:50:25 thx woglinde May 10 18:51:06 I loved using E17 until it started to segfault all the time May 10 18:51:10 back to using fluxbox now May 10 18:52:01 hello all May 10 18:52:12 hey mreimer May 10 18:52:20 Pigi: usually this is caused by a wrong machine setting May 10 18:52:21 hey koen. keeping busy? May 10 18:52:27 hi mreimer May 10 18:52:43 hi florian. Is Jonas letting you sleep? May 10 18:52:47 mreimer: yeah, trying to find out why pcmcia keeps insisting on giving +5v to my hostap cards May 10 18:52:50 florian, I supposed, but it should be as easy as h3900. Maybe a problem with distro ? May 10 18:52:56 koen: ouch May 10 18:52:59 mreimer: they work on the hx, but not on the h2200 May 10 18:53:12 koen: strange May 10 18:53:16 mreimer: yeah May 10 18:53:25 h2200 pcmcia hasn't changed in ages May 10 18:53:26 OE Build Configuration: May 10 18:53:26 BB_VERSION = "1.4.3" May 10 18:53:26 OE_REVISION = "" May 10 18:53:26 TARGET_ARCH = "arm" May 10 18:53:26 TARGET_OS = "linux" May 10 18:53:26 MACHINE = "h3900" May 10 18:53:28 especially since the pcmcia drivers are pretty similar May 10 18:53:28 DISTRO = "familiar" May 10 18:53:30 DISTRO_VERSION = "unstable-20060510" May 10 18:53:32 TARGET_FPU = "" May 10 18:54:06 and have my name on them ;) May 10 18:54:12 koen: :-) May 10 18:54:17 koen: do both .16 and .15 fail on h2200? May 10 18:54:26 only tried current cvs May 10 18:54:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r079fcd32... 10/packages/linux/linux-jlime-sh3_2.6.11.bb: linux-jlime: set compatible host and machine May 10 18:54:46 mreimer: mostly... currently he doesn't want me to type obviously May 10 18:54:58 KenJlime: I rigged the jlime kernel to only work with jornada6xx May 10 18:55:03 florian: :-) or he'll protest by spitting up on your keyboard May 10 18:55:50 Pigi: strange indeed May 10 18:56:01 koen: sounds good, the other sh3 based archs (if they get a working bootloader) should be able to run on the jornada6xx ipks. May 10 18:56:14 KenJlime: it's easy to add more machines May 10 18:56:37 (machine1|machine2|machine3|etc) May 10 18:56:53 koen: yeah, will most likely do that in the future but as i said they need a bootlaoder first, for ce 1.0 and ce 2.0 May 10 18:57:02 btw, could anyone take a look at http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=968 May 10 18:57:29 Getting some issues ive never had before, and Im pretty sure its related to glibc versions but cannot put my finger on it May 10 18:59:03 using initial 2.3.2+cvs and and compiling native 2.3.5+cvs May 10 18:59:30 I know that the 2.3.2+cvs isnt good for the sh3 arch due to problems with dynamic linking, but not sure how this could affect the native one.. May 10 18:59:34 Or im just babbling May 10 19:00:18 babbling May 10 19:15:23 what's the difference/implications of doing "inherit ipkg"/export IPKG_INSTALL vs. just and RDEPENDS in a "meta" package? they seem to be used interchangably... May 10 19:20:06 HopsNBarley: RDEPENDS is format agnostic May 10 19:22:27 koen, i think i see it: ipkg/export is used for specific distributions or architectures, while, as you said, RDEPENDS is a more generic mechanism. do i have this right? May 10 19:23:00 ipkg/export shouldn't really exist May 10 19:23:13 (-: May 10 19:23:22 anyone know (or can guess?) what package provides gpe-iconlist.h? May 10 19:23:45 raduga: I think libgpewidget did a few versions ago May 10 19:24:06 anyone looked at the gp2x? http://gp2x.co.uk/ May 10 19:24:10 raduga: did you try to build gpe-aerial? May 10 19:24:15 looks like a really nice toy ;) May 10 19:24:25 AwayNAiL: effem mentioned it a few hours ago May 10 19:24:27 AwayNAiL: it is... May 10 19:24:42 AwayNAiL: too bad it has no touchscreen :-/ May 10 19:24:57 yeah, that was my first (and so far only) downside May 10 19:26:36 anyone have any suggestions for the following: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966 May 10 19:27:13 it seems that -I/usr/X11R6/include should never be an include path when cross compiling an app. May 10 19:28:05 JustinP, hrw: Did a clean install of oz/opie and the problems with usbnet were gone - teh PowerBook recognized it at once, like before the migration from Cacko to OZ. May 10 19:28:32 is there a list of IPKG_ARCHS somewhere? I'm making a r1000.conf and need to specify the arch type. It has a Freescale i.MXL with an ARM920T/ARM920TDMI core May 10 19:29:15 mreimer: it's usually the same as the -march -mcpu stuff you pass to gcc May 10 19:29:26 thanks koen May 10 19:29:26 mreimer: but you can invent your own if you want May 10 19:29:32 no thanks :-) May 10 19:34:26 bitbake shell can't tell when a .conf is changed, so it doesn't think it needs to re-cache May 10 19:34:45 CosmicPenguin: yeah, one of the bugs May 10 19:34:57 CosmicPenguin: it also lacks a -k option May 10 19:35:13 Does anyone have recommendations on good PDA's to buy? Preferrably something with BT&Wifi. Must run OE ;) May 10 19:35:45 ipaq hx4700, nokia 770 May 10 19:36:36 koen: and while you're gathering bugs, being able to specify multiple targets with a command would be nice too May 10 19:36:45 ok, any lousy ones? (aka, bit cheaper) May 10 19:36:46 like say "clean base-files base-passwd' May 10 19:37:02 CosmicPenguin: ugly hack: clean base-* May 10 19:37:17 koen: heh May 10 19:37:23 I took opie-initrd, zImage and the updater.sh from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/rc2/images/akita/ and now it won't start des grafics anymore: It tells me that the ELF-Version were different or libs weren't ELF files if I choose normal boot in altboot :-( May 10 19:37:29 CosmicPenguin: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=854 May 10 19:37:43 fun May 10 19:37:50 I should read bugs.oe more often then once a quarter May 10 19:38:06 nail maybee the mdaIII/htc blueangle May 10 19:38:12 NAiL: hmm... collie, ipaq h3xxx May 10 19:38:28 nail the cellphone is included *g* May 10 19:39:36 I see a lot of ipaq HX2xxx or RX3715's. No h3xxx. May 10 19:40:23 NAiL: hmm... a new device? May 10 19:42:19 florian: dunno. I'm not familiar with PDA's. I'm just beginning to see my need for one. May 10 19:44:56 NAiL: you might get an old ipaq (h3870 or h3970) pretty cheap. May 10 19:45:28 sigh - the latest unionfs is only a month old, and its already not compatible with the kernel May 10 19:45:29 i was told the acer n30 would work pretty well May 10 19:45:41 but i didn't verify so far... May 10 19:45:54 hmm May 10 19:46:01 anyone used a h1940? May 10 19:46:12 got bt and wlan atleast May 10 19:50:44 OZ seems to be too complicated as long as I don't have a internet connection for ipk-updates -> flashing CACKO again an waiting for my WLAN-card to arrive. May 10 19:51:13 nail: you want a Zaurus :) May 10 19:52:00 zaurus is expensive and without any wireless stuff May 10 19:53:08 well, zaurus has wireless IRDA at least May 10 19:53:41 And under OZ the zaurus is somewhat difficult - if you're not a wise one ... May 10 19:54:05 I'm not gonna bother with IRDA. BT is so much easier. May 10 19:55:00 * chouimat is away: pub(?) May 10 19:55:39 ok, the H1940 looks ok. BT & WLAN. ~$360. May 10 19:55:57 BT with CF-card costs the CF-Slot for the WLAN-CF-card and BT via USB looks ugly. May 10 19:56:15 nail hm the mdaIII with bt and wlan is about 200euros on ebay May 10 19:56:44 woglinde: I'm in .no, so I would have to pay through my nose to "import" it. May 10 19:57:17 nail hm May 10 19:57:31 no touchscreen on the mdaIII? May 10 19:57:54 oh May 10 19:58:00 hm should May 10 19:58:07 let me look May 10 19:58:12 woglinde: how good is the support for that one? May 10 19:58:20 woglinde: there is May 10 19:58:43 but I dunno how much it'll cost to get it to .no May 10 19:58:49 probably way too much (tm) May 10 19:58:50 florian http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngel May 10 20:00:17 some work todo May 10 20:00:54 looks nice May 10 20:01:38 I was told that the wlan driver will be ready in the next weeks May 10 20:01:54 Most likely sold as sx66 in .no, but I can't find it on any online stores May 10 20:01:56 hm the soundthink sucks May 10 20:03:39 woglinde: not too bad, but lacking support for the internal flash sucks May 10 20:04:20 apparently the siemens sx66 is a rebadged qtek 9090, which I can buy here May 10 20:05:26 but at a cost... $680 May 10 20:08:02 03florian 07org.oe.dev * re9d9eeb0... 10/packages/gpe-aerial/ (files/iconlist.patch gpe-aerial_0.2.13.bb): gpe-aerial: Fix build problem with libgpewidget >= 0.111. May 10 20:09:01 nail nothing in ebay? May 10 20:09:36 no ebay in .no. Would probably be cheaper to buy from abroad, but ... May 10 20:11:38 could anyone push the bug #969 bug through, just a small change May 10 20:34:49 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra349b205... 10/packages/ethereal/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add ethereal... simply the world's most popular network protocol analyzer May 10 20:35:24 heh May 10 20:40:43 lol May 10 20:41:01 mickeyl: could you push #969, :D pretty please May 10 20:44:58 KenJlime: of course. I'll handle that later tonite. May 10 20:46:12 thx man May 10 20:46:14 KenJlime: btw., have a look at distro/sharprom.conf. can you provide a MENTOR and REQUIREMENTS if applicable? May 10 20:46:15 np May 10 20:48:32 mickeyl: Aha, into the jlime distro file you mean? May 10 20:55:32 is there any things I can do to avoid locale generation for glibc ? May 10 20:56:55 yes; you can put ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE_GENERATION = "0" in local.conf May 10 21:00:51 hi pb_ May 10 21:00:58 ~hail pb_ May 10 21:00:59 * ibot bows down to pb_ and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" May 10 21:01:07 shazbot May 10 21:01:11 hi pigi May 10 21:02:11 and, as usual, it was worth I would have read trough the local.conf.sample :) May 10 21:02:30 :-} May 10 21:03:21 what's TARGET_ARCH used for? May 10 21:04:07 setting the target architecture May 10 21:04:39 heh May 10 21:04:49 is that value handed off to gcc? May 10 21:04:54 -march=$TARGET_ARCH? May 10 21:05:04 no, it's used when configuring gcc May 10 21:05:24 so for all arm-based processors it should be "arm" May 10 21:05:25 ? May 10 21:05:30 --target=${TARGET_ARCH}-${TARGET_OS}, more or less May 10 21:05:31 mreimer right May 10 21:05:37 ok, thanks May 10 21:05:38 mreimer: yeah May 10 21:08:27 what's the difference between BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS_append and BOOTSTRAP_EXTRA_DEPENDS += May 10 21:12:53 once heard that one is the build dependence and other is the run dependent May 10 21:13:10 ah doh May 10 21:13:12 read wrong May 10 21:13:21 dont know if theres any difference between those May 10 21:26:05 NOTE: bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('/opt/oe/build-r1000/tmp/staging/r1000-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', )) while evaluating: ${SHLIBS} kernel (${KERNEL_VERSION}) May 10 21:26:18 (parsing from scratch) What's the fix for this? Or can it be safely ignored? May 10 21:27:27 the actual kernel for pxa machine in oe is hh39 AFAYK ? May 10 21:33:04 hh41, I think May 10 21:33:34 one quick question May 10 21:33:39 what windowmanager is people using May 10 21:33:44 so I have antoher trouble in my conf files. Is d/loading hh39 :( May 10 21:33:53 metacity May 10 21:34:18 pb_ where can I check for this ? May 10 21:47:18 Pigi: PREFERRED_VERSION_handhelds-pxa, I guess May 10 21:47:58 I have PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "handhelds-pxa" May 10 21:48:20 should this be changed to PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "handhelds-pxa-hh41" ? May 10 21:48:44 and btw I have no hh41.bb files in packages/linux dir. May 10 21:49:45 maybe an rm -rf org.openembedded.dev could sane this ? May 10 21:58:38 pb_ in my handhelds-pxa_2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh40.bb ( just checkout) I have DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" ! May 10 21:59:00 ah May 10 21:59:10 and there is no hh41.bb May 10 21:59:47 I would like to test hh41, but I'm not sure what patches are needed for it. May 10 22:00:17 and what KERNEL_CCSUFFIX is needed for it :( May 10 22:03:47 * CosmicPenguin hugs unionfs May 10 22:03:56 best...module....evah! May 10 22:04:01 should be the same as hh40 in both respects May 10 22:04:46 why is DEFAULT_PREFERENCE="-1" AFAIK ? May 10 22:07:34 no idea May 10 22:07:41 ok. May 10 22:07:53 trying to build an hh41 right now May 10 22:10:58 pb_ last question: do you think gcc 3.4.4 would be ok to build hh41 ? May 10 22:11:07 yes May 10 22:11:14 nice May 10 22:19:02 later all May 10 22:36:14 by the way; in response to laibsch's reported "bug" in VFAT on oz, May 10 22:37:18 i just tried to copy about 30mb of files, from a SD to CF, in pdaXrom; the fs got corrupted, and it appears some data was lost May 10 22:37:49 the card has had thousands (or more) of writes so far, and its worked "forever" so, obviously, pdaXrom is the defective piece May 10 22:38:04 * raduga sighs (j/k) May 10 22:39:08 losing data sucks, a lot. Its important to remember to always blame the developers, when such disasters strike. May 10 22:41:35 :D May 10 22:42:47 CosmicPenguin: does it work now? May 10 23:06:29 mickey|zzZZzz: you there? May 10 23:21:37 JustinP: does what work? May 10 23:24:31 KenJlime: For busybox see http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657 (just reading through last nights irc logs) May 10 23:26:38 KenJlime: Just found your bug... looks like a different issue than that. May 10 23:28:31 damn rock ridge May 10 23:28:35 damn you to hell!!!! May 10 23:29:32 i love that quote. May 10 23:32:16 it seems that bitbake --continue doesn't work in the current head. May 10 23:34:08 hrm. May 10 23:34:45 what's the quickest way to verify what form of fat (fat16/fat12/fat32) a given fatfs is using? May 10 23:35:03 mkfs.fat May 10 23:35:09 read the header May 10 23:35:19 will fstyp do this? May 10 23:35:45 file devel-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r2-boot.bin May 10 23:35:45 devel-image-geodelx-devel-1.0-r2-boot.bin: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x58, OEM-ID " mkdosfs", sectors/cluster 4, root entries 512, sectors 5428 (volumes <=32 MB) , Media descriptor 0xf8, sectors/FAT 4, heads 64, hidden sectors 32, serial number 0x4462415e, label: "oe ", FAT (12 bit) May 10 23:35:58 looks like file knows the score May 10 23:36:17 mkfs.fat -F May 10 23:36:18 right? May 10 23:36:53 mkfs isn' May 10 23:37:05 t what you want - you don't want to create the sucker, you just want to read it, right? May 10 23:37:19 dosfsck reports it as fat32, regardless; unless I'm misunderstanding what dosfsck is telling May 10 23:37:26 cosmicpenguin: create :) May 10 23:37:37 what's the quickest way to verify what form of fat (fat16/fat12/fat32) a given fatfs is using? May 10 23:37:44 well, two things May 10 23:37:51 to create, yes, use -F May 10 23:37:55 a) create a fat16 fs May 10 23:38:08 b) be sure that its actually fat16, and not something different May 10 23:38:23 you don't trust mkdosfs? May 10 23:38:26 its a quality app May 10 23:38:37 anyway /me goes to play disc golf May 10 23:39:07 cosmicpenguin: actually, i tusted fsck a little more than it deserved May 10 23:39:16 dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN May 10 23:39:40 is reporting.... the type of FAT that this version of dosfsck is able to know things about May 10 23:39:45 not what's actually on the fs May 10 23:40:04 fsck -v claims: May 10 23:40:09 2 FATs, 16 bit entries May 10 23:40:24 so i think i trust mkdosfs now :) May 10 23:41:42 * raduga now attempts to trust sashz' skills as an OS distribution maintainer May 10 23:51:55 whats that graphical display of bootup times? May 10 23:52:05 bootsomething May 10 23:52:28 ljp: bootchart? May 10 23:53:16 thats it. thanks May 11 00:18:47 CosmicPenguin: unionfs May 11 00:18:54 CosmicPenguin: thought it was crashing a lot May 11 00:25:12 anyone know if embootchart has been released? May 11 00:39:50 hmmm May 11 00:40:19 is there any moderately-well documented history of handhelds bricked from excessive reflashing? May 11 00:40:35 i only know of a few anecdotal cases May 11 00:40:56 few enough, that its hard to be certain if it was excessive flashing, or something else that buggered them May 11 00:41:35 has anyone seen a useful reference for this? May 11 01:31:25 * chouimat is back. May 11 01:38:42 does anyone have any script to deal with cherry-picking for monotone? May 11 01:38:47 njs: I'm looking at you here... May 11 01:38:57 I have a large # of renames and such that need to happen May 11 01:39:11 I may just write my own little script, but it's just somewhat annoying... May 11 02:01:58 JustinP, i think if a script existed the argument about package work across branches wouldnt be much of an issue May 11 02:04:05 btw... what is with the huge amount of superh bugs in the last week? May 11 02:04:25 and what does superh stand for? super harvard? May 11 02:06:40 CosmicPenguin: of course, it would be insane to use company resources in conjunction with IRC ;P May 11 02:08:07 external irc you mean May 11 02:08:22 i've heard about a few using an internal irc network May 11 02:08:43 external irc, yes May 11 02:08:59 and of all the possible networks, freenode May 11 02:09:08 ... May 11 02:09:10 you'd have to be really crazy :P May 11 02:09:23 suicidal if you use efnet May 11 02:09:49 true company men use quakenet May 11 02:10:10 running doom on their boss' computer, but rendering it via X11 on the local machine May 11 02:10:37 lol May 11 02:10:51 i can wait, i am still running SharpROM May 11 02:11:55 JustinP: no script, just a half-finished branch... May 11 02:12:43 i wonder if a cherrypicker is the answer May 11 02:13:03 njs: ah.... May 11 02:13:13 for cross branch stuff its kind of needed May 11 02:13:20 oh, yup. May 11 02:13:28 since the branches never get merged May 11 02:13:41 emte: I've been adding fixes for sh4 for a few months - this week KenJLime has been working on getting sh3 working again this week... sh3 used to work a long time ago but sh4 has never been supported... May 11 02:14:33 ah, so sh is superh May 11 02:15:26 WTF is sh? May 11 02:16:09 emte: yeah, sh3 and sh4 are 32-bit cpus, sh5 is 64-bit. Lots of info at http://www.superh.com/ May 11 02:16:29 ahh, thanks May 11 02:17:18 I presume the h on superh stands for hitachi who originally developed the cpu's, but everything related to them was sold to renesas a few years back... May 11 02:18:01 there goes my guess on harvard arch May 11 02:18:49 btw, this is the product I'm targeting: http://linux.jjplus.com/index.html - using it for various router and firewall projects.. May 11 03:36:46 njs: how do I "mtn ls unknown" when there are missing files? May 11 03:55:13 umm.... by fixing the missing files first, ATM May 11 03:56:19 that's *why* I want the output of "mtn ls unknown" May 11 03:56:30 so that I can compare the 2 and rename files appropriately May 11 03:56:56 this is a hack cherrypicking-esque script May 11 03:57:03 for bbfiles in OE May 11 03:57:09 (at least my bbfiles...) May 11 03:58:03 I delete the dirs, copy them from the other branch, then run this script and it will output rename, drop, and add commands for m May 11 03:58:06 e May 11 03:58:41 which I *could* do if I knew the last rev that had been cherry-picked my doing an mtn diff and parsing *that*, but....this was just easier May 11 03:58:59 I'm using a normal 'ls' and 'mt ls known' to fix this, but an 'mtn ls unknown' would be easier May 11 04:06:23 koen: any problems with me comitting soem EFL/e17 updates to oz354x May 11 04:06:23 ? May 11 04:08:31 koen: seemed to work fine for me. Will sync with .dev May 11 04:08:44 koen: of course I'm going to have some updated to efl in .dev now.... May 11 04:24:27 yeah ... ugly way to do things ... May 11 04:25:07 i am wondering if releases should be branched AFTER they have been stablized May 11 04:25:43 and just move out the version distro conf when its branched May 11 04:26:46 and branch maybe ... 1-2mo after release to get the bulk of the "large" missed bugs May 11 04:27:20 then you would/should only end up with a few small bugs which would be easier to do multiple commits with May 11 04:37:05 yeah, but then dev can't be unstable May 11 04:37:12 dev is inherently unstable May 11 04:37:21 to stabilize in dev means to not allow unstable-ness May 11 04:37:35 stabalive a versioned conf May 11 04:37:42 unstable would still exist May 11 04:37:49 stablize* May 11 04:37:57 true, but that means that you have to specify a version for *every program* May 11 04:38:16 its a suggestion as a workaround until cherrypicking is implemented in monotone May 11 04:38:27 might be possible, I suggest asking the ML May 11 04:38:32 that is what a version distro does currently May 11 04:38:53 or am i missing something May 11 04:39:37 a versioned distro hard sets package dates and releases May 11 04:40:03 where as unversioned only sets "essential" ones that cannot be helped May 11 04:41:03 versioned distros used to live quite harmoniously with unversioned before May 11 04:41:41 it was only when oz+fam were branched did they ever start this May 11 04:42:32 i belive the concept is good but the timming is wrong, is what i am thinking May 11 04:43:20 so if they waited to branch a stable version 1-2mo AFTER it is released then you would not have to cherrypick much between the branch and dev May 11 04:43:37 as those bug fixes would already be in dev before it was branched May 11 04:43:40 yes, *but* it does make stabilization harder May 11 04:44:06 only currently in one aspect May 11 04:44:14 the changes in bitbake May 11 04:44:37 since you can not now use current bitbake in the older branches May 11 04:44:58 I use the same bitbake for both... May 11 04:45:06 which is another issue with branching early May 11 04:45:07 but things like the DEPENDS/RDEPENDS thing May 11 04:45:09 really? May 11 04:45:13 changes to base.bbclass May 11 04:45:30 other stuff like that, it just can't be done in a brach that is being stabilized May 11 04:45:45 we just eneded up doing a *lot* more stabilizing than originally thought May 11 04:45:58 but from a QA tool point of view they need to be May 11 04:46:37 or you eventually end up with vastly different tools that cannot work on one area May 11 04:46:51 right? May 11 04:47:31 i do see what your saying May 11 04:48:08 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r0fbf6c18... 10/ (100 files in 5 dirs): efl, e17: sync with .dev rev 34a4cccc8cdb74f4173031879341a1dcedfc7e31 May 11 04:48:34 but the larger the changes from one branch to the other means the more extra time a dev has to spend to adapt changes from one branch into another May 11 04:51:25 yes May 11 05:07:43 hmm May 11 05:08:02 anyone remember offhand how to assign values to signals in vhdl? May 11 05:08:20 * emte vaguly remembers soemthing about it being backwards May 11 06:25:29 ugh, I really wish one could verify what the next push is doing May 11 06:26:14 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * re51c5eec... 10/conf/machine/poodle-2.4.conf: poodle-2.4.conf: Fix a typo in PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel May 11 06:26:18 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r4a106fa5... 10/packages/keymaps/ (files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: Fix keymap-2.6 for Poodle May 11 06:26:22 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r3c4f1e08... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: defonfig-poodle/2.6: Change the default font-size to the kernel 2.4 default for QVGA May 11 06:26:26 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * ra9e4bb6b... 10/packages/altboot/ (9 files in 7 dirs): altboot: Add 1.0.7-rc3, containing kernel 2.6 Poodle and Tosa configs May 11 07:39:30 ljp: ping May 11 07:40:18 good morning all May 11 07:41:36 morning May 11 07:42:09 hey XorA May 11 07:45:34 hail zecke May 11 07:55:56 hi May 11 08:00:14 morning May 11 08:01:11 hey hrw|work May 11 08:04:41 * hrw|work will read backlog May 11 08:13:13 hrm May 11 08:13:15 * koen merges May 11 08:15:45 CoreDump|afk: sync 2.6 kernel changes oz354x<>dev after changes please May 11 08:18:14 hrw|work: that is on my todo, yes May 11 08:18:37 morning May 11 08:18:48 CoreDump|home: plan to fix 2.4 on poodle or skip it totally? May 11 08:18:50 hey CoreDump|home May 11 08:19:41 hrw|work: depends on how busy RP is actually. 2.4 is a total mess on Poodle and I'd really love to see the remaining 2.6 problems resolved so we can bury 2.4 for good May 11 08:20:08 CoreDump|home: only sounds and usb-gadget are missing, right? May 11 08:20:17 nah, there's a bit more May 11 08:20:45 CoreDump|home: can you create poodle 2.6 status summary? May 11 08:21:04 http://openembedded.pastebin.com/711028 May 11 08:21:07 sure May 11 08:21:50 the big bugger ATM is the non-working touchscreen =) May 11 08:22:04 or maybe I'm missing a module heh May 11 08:22:47 who needs a touchscreen? May 11 08:23:07 true, a touchscreen is just fluff =) May 11 08:24:04 morning all May 11 08:24:38 hey dirk May 11 08:25:01 ho do13 May 11 08:25:05 hi dirk May 11 08:25:17 hey koen, marcin, CoreDump|home May 11 08:29:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r581ff367... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/h2200/defconfig: h2200: tweak defconfig a bit May 11 08:49:01 * zecke has asked TT once again when Qtopia4 will be released or Gtk+ should be used May 11 08:49:20 FUD! May 11 08:49:22 zecke: GPIE? May 11 08:49:25 zecke: heh heh May 11 08:50:03 someone resurect harmony and make Gtopia May 11 08:52:15 does all clamshells do halt/reboot/poweroff properly now? May 11 08:53:30 heh, harmony May 11 08:55:36 XorA: Qtopia is irrelevant any way May 11 08:55:57 zecke: insmod gui.ko May 11 08:56:00 XorA: comparing it to other prorpietary solutions it is losing May 11 08:56:09 XorA: and they don't want a community :} May 11 08:57:07 anyway off to the dentist :} May 11 08:57:10 cya May 11 09:00:26 hi all May 11 09:42:46 RP: ping May 11 09:49:24 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra9046f49... 10/packages/linux/handhelds-pxa-2.6/ipaq-pxa270/defconfig: handhelds pxa cvs: first stab at updating ipaq-pxa270 defconfig **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 11 09:59:56 2006