**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat May 13 09:59:56 2006 May 13 10:31:23 good day May 13 10:53:44 morning May 13 10:55:30 Hi all May 13 10:55:53 opie-bluetoothapplet does not build on lastest .dev. Any ideas ? May 13 10:57:10 morning May 13 10:57:43 uv1: uhm... you realize that this is a utterly poor bug report right? Would you care to actually pastebin an error or so? May 13 11:02:58 is there a trick to get SysRQ working? I've mapped Home to SysRQ in the driver but Alt-SysRQ-* doesn't do a thing May 13 11:03:59 hi mickeyl May 13 11:04:43 CoreDump|home: ? it should be left japanese key + home May 13 11:04:52 nahh, on Poodle May 13 11:04:52 CoreDump|home: on all ccxx iirc May 13 11:04:55 hey pb__ May 13 11:04:56 ;) May 13 11:05:01 aah poodle May 13 11:05:04 2.4 or 2.6 ? May 13 11:05:07 2.6 May 13 11:05:26 hmm in that case i have no idea. for 2.4, i had write a patch to enable it at all May 13 11:05:35 (on collie) May 13 11:05:42 more than just SYSRQ = y May 13 11:05:58 I'll see what that patch does =) May 13 11:06:49 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19347&st=0&p=126877& May 13 11:06:52 this is so funny May 13 11:07:00 we get accused for using old software May 13 11:07:01 :D May 13 11:07:59 ~users May 13 11:08:01 so this is what we get for sharing our unpaid volunteer work with you? complaints and accuses? well done, this clearly supports our motivation to continue working on open source projects. May 13 11:08:18 hmm sysrq is diabled in collies 2.4 kernel May 13 11:08:22 hello, I build an oz354x bootstrap-image for my poodle and detected, that the /home partition at /dev/mtdblock3 isnt mounted. is it by intention? May 13 11:08:57 nope, should mount automatically May 13 11:09:01 (and does here) May 13 11:10:25 uv1: upstream error. May 13 11:10:52 its not listed in the mount output, and if i mount it by hand the shell hangs May 13 11:11:21 is any tmpfs mounted? May 13 11:11:29 yes May 13 11:11:49 hmm., did you use kernel 2.6 on that poodle before? May 13 11:12:23 yes May 13 11:12:53 thanks so far, have to go out, will look further in this direction May 13 11:14:23 sws: It might be that 2.6 made you flash unreadable to a 2.4 kernel.... May 13 11:19:23 hi May 13 11:19:29 cheers hrw May 13 11:19:33 ~seen likewise May 13 11:19:36 likewise was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 12h 29m 30s ago, saying: 'g'nite all'. May 13 11:19:45 can anyone remind me how to use the preprocessor for something like May 13 11:19:52 #if FOO > "someString" May 13 11:19:54 mickeyl: oesf post is funny ;) May 13 11:19:57 hrw: hehe May 13 11:20:14 ARGH! May 13 11:20:17 ~seen cbrake May 13 11:20:19 cbrake is currently on #oe #nslu2-linux #elinux. Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 14h 5m 50s, last said: 'koen: looks good.'. May 13 11:20:40 what did he do? May 13 11:21:14 hrw: whats up? May 13 11:21:43 cbrake: can you install screen on dev.? May 13 11:21:55 hrw: sure -- just a min .... May 13 11:22:07 ~lart CPP May 13 11:22:08 * ibot accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets CPP feel it May 13 11:22:50 * hrw will write a post 'how to devel on machine where you cant install stuff with usage of MACHINE="native"' ;) May 13 11:23:01 hrw: good plan! May 13 11:23:03 JustinP: NOTE: package gcc-3.4.4-r5: task do_compile: failed May 13 11:23:15 hi likewise May 13 11:23:46 mickeyl, CoreDump|home: can you test rc3? May 13 11:23:49 hi all May 13 11:24:07 hrw: sure, in an hour or so May 13 11:24:09 hrw: np. uri? May 13 11:24:12 CoreDump|home: cool May 13 11:24:27 mickeyl: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc3/ will be May 13 11:24:50 mickeyl: has to split machine feeds first (has a script for it) - ipkgmake-index is slow May 13 11:25:20 athlon64 x2 is awesome May 13 11:25:35 hrw: ok, you have screen May 13 11:25:42 cbrake: gracias May 13 11:26:38 hrw: Athlon64 x1 here :-/ Did gmp-native build for you on x64_64? I indeed had to put the limb_t size in site May 13 11:27:23 likewise: 'only' athlonxp 2200+ here - I use '64 x2' for one task May 13 11:27:37 hi all May 13 11:27:40 ERROR: /home/leon/sandbox/ep93xx/oe/org.openembedded.dev/packages/autoconf/autoconf-native_2.59.bb depends on itself (eventually) May 13 11:27:42 hi alan May 13 11:30:55 ~praise kexec May 13 11:30:57 All hail kexec! May 13 11:33:21 muaha, got SysRQ working. Note to future self: the driver doesn't care for assigned symbols, only for the raw keycodes May 13 11:35:11 heh, right May 13 11:35:12 congrats May 13 11:35:32 mickeyl, CoreDump|home: rc images in .rc3/ dir, rc3 feed in rc3/ dir May 13 11:35:42 not tested at all yet May 13 11:35:47 uv1: error has been fixed upstream. opie HEAD should compile again May 13 11:38:30 likewise: NOTE: package gmp-native-4.1.2-r0: task do_build: completed May 13 11:38:57 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r1790fd84... 10/packages/python/ (python-pysqlite2_2.0.2.bb python-pysqlite2_2.2.2.bb): python-pysqlite2: bump version from 2.0.2 to 2.2.2 May 13 11:39:00 likewise: on "x86_64 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2" system May 13 11:39:18 cbrake: cheers May 13 11:39:58 hrw: I got a zeroed sizeof limb_t in my angstrom-2006.9 build for the ep93xx MACHINE. I had to override the limb_t autoconf in site/ May 13 11:40:11 x86_64 host, ep93xx (ARM 920T) target May 13 11:40:28 hmm.. for native build it should not matter what is a target May 13 11:42:30 hrw: true. I will see why it fails on this system (FC5 x86_64). May 13 11:45:40 will multimachine work when you have different arch's ? like i385 and ppc for example on the same distro ? May 13 11:46:10 Ifaistos: not tested May 13 11:46:27 well its tested now.... it does not :( May 13 11:48:49 how often is the nslu2-linux monotone db synchronized w/ the monotone.vanille.de? May 13 11:49:41 hrw : Once you build the first for example x86 target it then move to build the ppc target it tries to use i386-linux-uclibc to compile it :/ May 13 11:52:13 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd3c6eb18... 10/conf/distro/ (3 files): May 13 11:52:13 remove opensimpad distro configurations. there is no such thing as a May 13 11:52:13 dedicated opensimpad distribution anymore. SIMpad support will be continued May 13 11:52:13 in Familiar Linux 0.8.4 and Angstrom. May 13 11:52:13 If you want to build a non-eabi SIMpad distro, set DISTRO = "openzaurus-unstable" May 13 11:53:20 * mickeyl waves goodbye to OpenSIMpad May 13 11:53:38 tada! May 13 11:54:07 *schnueff* May 13 11:54:12 *g* May 13 11:54:14 hehe May 13 11:54:52 one more step on the way to Angstrom May 13 11:55:00 ya May 13 11:55:02 * CoreDump|home cheers May 13 11:55:35 now we need to put more pressure on woglinde and zecke to finish 2.6 for SIMpad May 13 11:55:45 http://www.timesys.com/linuxlink.html - OE need something like that presentation May 13 11:56:45 woah May 13 11:57:52 and we need .stable .dev branches May 13 11:58:03 hmm May 13 11:58:14 we can't handle the load of more branches, although i agree May 13 11:58:17 at least not now May 13 11:58:19 perhaps in the future May 13 11:58:34 with paid OE development May 13 11:58:36 mickeyl: I plan to start own business for OE consulting etc May 13 11:58:42 hrw: you, too? :)) May 13 11:58:42 How easy is it for me to run my own branch *and* make it available as a monotone accessible server? May 13 11:58:59 likewise: two monotone commands May 13 11:59:03 likewise: no problem. you can download the .db and start monotone as server May 13 11:59:08 You guys should work together :-) May 13 11:59:18 i hope we will May 13 11:59:24 hrw: please try to come to fosdem 07 May 13 11:59:31 we could have a strategic OE meeting there May 13 11:59:56 .nl->.de->.pl :-) May 13 12:00:25 mickeyl: starting business is one step closer to fosdem07 May 13 12:00:57 mickeyl: how much EUR cost last fosdem for normal user? May 13 12:01:07 conference fee? May 13 12:01:07 nothing May 13 12:01:24 it's FREE and open source developers european meeting May 13 12:01:28 mickeyl: no - whle trip from home -> fosdem -> home May 13 12:01:31 ah May 13 12:01:36 well, that depends where $HOME is May 13 12:01:44 mickeyl we could meet in berlin May 13 12:01:47 I always travel by plane May 13 12:01:52 so it's a bit expensive May 13 12:01:54 mickeyl: then ignore cost hom->fosdem fosdem->home May 13 12:01:56 NOTE: no buildable providers for autoconf-native May 13 12:03:38 hrw: a double room for two nights in the astrid was 125 EUR including breakfast buffet May 13 12:03:47 sorry, 154 even May 13 12:04:03 single room probably cheaper May 13 12:04:21 but when you share with someone else it's less expensive May 13 12:04:42 good to know May 13 12:04:44 woglinde: yeah, i'll make it to berlin this year. no idea when, but I'll definitly come May 13 12:05:03 mickeyl: tell when - 19EUR poznan<>berlin train ;) May 13 12:05:26 so I will be there too May 13 12:05:26 hrw: wow, that's a good price. yeah, I'll keep ya posted May 13 12:05:29 excellent May 13 12:05:50 what's the Berlin event? May 13 12:06:34 likewise oe payed kickoff meeting *g* May 13 12:06:39 likewise: OE developers european meeting May 13 12:06:45 :-) May 13 12:06:48 although I'd like to have it in Frankfurt :) May 13 12:06:52 OEDEM 2006? May 13 12:07:01 we could get a room at our university I think May 13 12:07:35 hm but internet would be a problem May 13 12:08:11 hrw: heh, right :) May 13 12:10:21 NOTE: package tk-8.4.11-r3: task do_build: completed May 13 12:10:26 cbrake: ;) May 13 12:11:04 FRA<->TXL is 156 EUR May 13 12:11:08 not bad May 13 12:11:39 txl is berlin terminal? May 13 12:11:43 yea May 13 12:11:46 berlin tegel May 13 12:11:54 they have another one in tempelhof May 13 12:12:51 ~change 515 pln to eur May 13 12:12:56 515.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 132.748 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) May 13 12:16:26 hrw: great :-) May 13 12:16:50 I just added INHERIT += "rootfs_ipk" but now get problems like these: NOTE: no buildable providers for autoconf-native May 13 12:17:07 likewise: DISTRO="generic" should be enough May 13 12:17:25 likewise: rootfs_ipk is class used by *-image targets only May 13 12:17:32 I have DISTRO="angstrom-2006.9" May 13 12:17:46 likewise: then you do not need any INHERIT lines extra May 13 12:18:10 cbrake: will push fix after pull May 13 12:18:31 hrw: Maybe I understand this incorrectly, but I would like to have a (cramfs, jffs2, initrd, squashfs) rootfs image build somehow. May 13 12:18:58 likewise: IMAGE_FSTYPES = "jffs2 cramfs tar.gz squashfs" into local.conf May 13 12:19:35 hrw: OK, is there docs on this that I could have found myself? :-/ May 13 12:19:36 hi May 13 12:19:40 hrw: thanks May 13 12:19:50 likewise: oe/conf/documentation.conf or sth like that May 13 12:19:51 he zecke May 13 12:19:52 hi all ! May 13 12:20:08 mickeyl temelhof will be closed this year May 13 12:20:31 woglinde: Tempelhof will be closed in the year of MHP ;) May 13 12:20:55 zecke you mean HDTV May 13 12:21:33 hrw: OK, will check it out later today -- thx! May 13 12:21:51 * cbrake goes to make pancakes for kids ... May 13 12:22:09 hrw: IMAGE_FSTYPES is not mentioned in the docs though. May 13 12:23:02 likewise: hehe, patches are welcome ;) May 13 12:23:30 likewise: looks like something to update then May 13 12:23:33 zecke: yes, but I first have to know how stuff works :-) May 13 12:24:56 I threw out the INHERIT, put in a IMAGE_ROOTFS = "ext2.gz" to begin with, but it does nothing AFAIK. May 13 12:25:02 s/AFAIK/AFAICS May 13 12:25:41 likewise: IMAGE_FSTYPES not IMAGE_ROOTFS May 13 12:26:23 typo: copy-pasting: IMAGE_FSTYPES = "ext2.gz" May 13 12:26:47 likewise: "bitbake bootstrap-image" should give ext2.gz image May 13 12:28:18 hrw: thanks, that was probably it, I changed bitbake to build nano in my script to test beyond bootstrap... May 13 12:28:26 * likewise needs more coffee May 13 12:28:34 hi all ! I used oe to built angstrom for tosa. kerlen 2.6.16 and bootstrap works just 'as this' ... just want to say: good job guys ! May 13 12:29:17 likewise: normally you use bitbake to build stuff and create packages. part of it can be creating images. images can be in several formats/filesystems May 13 12:29:54 hrw: are images always made from pre-built packages (like .ipk) or can they be generated from the staging area as well? May 13 12:30:02 likewise: from ipk May 13 12:31:05 hrw: and what if I want to assemble my own set of packages? I need to define a DISTRO myself? May 13 12:31:06 likewise: each (non-native) package which stage something usually also provide -dev package May 13 12:31:12 likewise: own image? May 13 12:31:47 likewise: cd packages/meta/;cp one-image.bb likewise-image.bb, edit it and build May 13 12:31:58 likewise: IPKG_INSTALL define package set to install May 13 12:32:40 likewise: look at: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/collie-2.6/collie26-image.bb - its collie/2.6 image May 13 12:33:15 likewise: ofcourse all that stuff should be built already to get it working as this recipe lack DEPENDS/RDEPENDS stuff May 13 12:33:41 likewise: but simple RDEPENDS = "${IPKG_INSTALL}" should work May 13 12:35:57 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rbb0faff2... 10/packages/tcltk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tk: depend on libxt - close #966 (and older changes from .dev) May 13 12:35:59 hrw: Thanks a zillion! May 13 12:36:26 (live crash course on OE) May 13 12:37:02 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r365caef7... 10/packages/tcltk/tk_8.4.11.bb: tk: depend on libxt - close #966 May 13 12:37:35 Hum... There is a problem fetching http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/proto/randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 : the file does not exist anymore. But there is a randrproto-X11R7.0-1.1.2.tar.bz2 tarball ... Does anyone know if the file has been renamed and someone is updating the SRC_URI in bb file ? Or where can I found such a file please ? May 13 12:43:39 * cyrilRomain wget http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 but bitbake still try to fetch it and fails :-/ (?) May 13 12:55:11 done mailing to Qtopia Interest May 13 12:55:23 zecke what? May 13 12:55:46 ljp: ""Cause it's the best, most stable and mature embedded application platform for Linux out there, and it's made by Trolltech." May 13 12:56:07 zecke *g* yeah lorn rocks May 13 12:56:08 ljp: why don't you release this award-winning, best, most stable and matured embedded application platform now? May 13 12:56:10 cyrilRomain: pull latest updates, test - if occure then look into bugtracker May 13 12:56:15 cu May 13 12:56:47 bye hrw May 13 12:56:47 hrw|gone: thanks May 13 13:00:42 hi zecke May 13 13:00:57 hi pb May 13 13:02:03 hi woglinde May 13 13:07:35 morning May 13 13:07:47 hi chouimat May 13 13:08:34 good morning all May 13 13:09:15 http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/12/wsj-sez-nokia-770-followup-to-feature-google-talk/ May 13 13:09:19 wow May 13 13:11:19 That picture is photoshopped... May 13 13:13:04 good afternoon koen May 13 13:13:12 woglinde: telepathy is not ;) May 13 13:14:21 woglinde: yes, agreed, the pixels are perfectly aligned hor and ver... May 13 13:14:50 zecke I took it from the comments of that article May 13 13:17:49 woglinde: it's also using non fullscreen windows May 13 13:17:58 woglinde: and afaik nokia is using matchbox May 13 13:18:11 and the decoration sucks as well May 13 13:18:16 koen zecke's 770 lies behind me May 13 13:18:17 and telepathy doesn't have 'google' stamped over it May 13 13:18:32 args May 13 13:18:34 lie May 13 13:19:04 zecke: I played with a macbook pro today :) May 13 13:51:23 ugh, someones building lfs inside his pda May 13 13:51:26 and why? May 13 13:51:30 to get gcc 4.0.... May 13 13:51:32 Good bloody question.. May 13 13:52:00 change two lines in OE and you'll get a complete image built with gcc 4.0.2 May 13 13:52:13 change 4 lines and you'll get glibc 2.4 May 13 13:52:15 etc... May 13 13:52:48 koen: where is the documentation? May 13 13:53:09 zecke: waiting for a donated macbook pro May 13 13:53:34 koen: you should have hacked WebCore May 13 13:56:56 any good and free guide to DocBook? May 13 13:57:48 that timesys thingy was pretty neat May 13 14:02:56 Does OE uses a downloaded-packages cache or something lika a tarball checksum that would force OE to fetch file even if present in DL-DIR ? May 13 14:03:20 s/lika/like/ May 13 14:03:40 cyrilRomain: no, for what do you need it? May 13 14:03:50 zecke: randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 May 13 14:04:01 cyrilRomain: did it change after the releasE? May 13 14:04:27 zecke: after which release ? May 13 14:04:39 1.1.2 sounds like a release, how should it change May 13 14:04:45 after you have downloaded it? May 13 14:04:58 I try to understand the use-case :) May 13 14:05:05 well, the file cannot be fetched from the SRC_URI ( http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/proto/) May 13 14:05:32 I don't get what you are saying May 13 14:05:42 is that URL referenced from the BitBake file? May 13 14:05:58 zecke: I guess May 13 14:05:59 e.g. you have not fetched the code (it is not present in the DL_DIR) May 13 14:06:10 and if the BitBake file is corrected the file will be fetched May 13 14:06:10 zecke: I'm trying to build angstrom and this fale cannot be fetch May 13 14:07:16 cyrilRomain: I have not built X lately May 13 14:07:26 koen native build on a pda? May 13 14:07:27 cyrilRomain: but are these guys playing pingpong on the naming of their files? May 13 14:07:32 zecke: I wget wget http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 and put randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 into my DL_DIR, but bitbake still try to fetch from http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/proto/randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 and fails May 13 14:07:44 zecke: well maybe May 13 14:07:46 woglinde: yes May 13 14:07:52 cyrilRomain: well, touch NAME.md5 May 13 14:08:03 koen oh my god May 13 14:08:05 zecke: ok May 13 14:08:16 koen remindes me on gentoo users May 13 14:08:24 cyrilRomain: but fix the bug instead ;) May 13 14:09:20 zecke: 8e72173ad7aa8abe218e6e7fe0903842 randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 <- from http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/proto/randrproto-1.1.2.tar.bz2 May 13 14:09:40 * cyrilRomain trying to fix the bug right now May 13 14:09:40 c May 13 14:09:45 cyrilRomain: what are you saying? May 13 14:10:01 cyrilRomain: BitBake's wget fetcher checks if it needs to fetch a file May 13 14:10:12 cyrilRomain: by looking at NAME.md5 in the DL_DIR May 13 14:10:22 cyrilRomain: no need to paste a hash here May 13 14:10:37 zecke: ok, I misunderstood you May 13 14:10:38 and this Xorg7 stuff is starting to piss me off May 13 14:11:53 cyrilRomain: either you should update the meta data, or others are too stupid to write a SRC_URI correctly May 13 14:12:40 zecke: or xorg guys simply renamed the file May 13 14:12:59 zecke: keep cool :) May 13 14:13:07 I am May 13 14:13:20 but +1 week I'm seeing fetching issues of Xorg stuff May 13 14:13:54 X is so old, they should have a release process :} May 13 14:14:04 and I hope moving files on the server at random is not part of it May 13 14:14:08 anyway cya May 13 14:15:08 tschau zecke May 13 14:15:17 bye zecke May 13 14:15:55 uv1 is back from afternoon nap ... May 13 14:16:00 hey uv1 May 13 14:16:15 mickey|bbiab: still there ? May 13 14:16:17 ~lart Xorg May 13 14:16:17 * ibot sends a legion of lawyers after Xorg's head May 13 14:18:21 koen: I have a strange problem since changing to bitbake 1.4.3. May 13 14:19:10 building a self made library (libuvdebug) results in OK compiled ARM file (0.2.3) but in staging I find 0.2.2 i386 file. May 13 14:19:45 koen: Can you tell we what is the stage, where the install dir is created inside my package. I have to find out what happens ... May 13 14:19:49 uv1: got a Makefile in the directory? May 13 14:20:02 and is it using qmake to generate one? May 13 14:20:12 zecke: qmake yes. May 13 14:20:30 uv1: okay then you have a Makefile (i386 0.2.2) in the directory May 13 14:20:42 uv1: qmake under some circumstances doesn't generate a new Makefile May 13 14:21:03 zecke: No. As I said, uvdebug-x.y.z/libuvdebug.so.0.2.3 is ARM binary. May 13 14:21:54 uv1: you have a contradiction there May 13 14:22:00 uv1: this is from self compiled right? May 13 14:22:05 zecke: yes May 13 14:22:20 uv1: and if you use OE to build the package it does not work? May 13 14:22:34 uv1: and you install some library into $STAGING_LIBDIR right? May 13 14:22:57 but check what I have said above May 13 14:26:38 zecke: Makefile build libuvdebug.so.0.2.3 (ARM). Once I call package stage, the install dir is created but I find libuvdebug-0.2.2 file in there (i386). In uvdebug-x-y-z dir still 0.2.3 (ARM). May 13 14:27:19 uv1: well find that lib then? May 13 14:27:27 uv1: it was copied from somewhere? May 13 14:29:25 zecke: Heres my install call (from .bb file) "oe_libinstall -so libuvdebug ${STAGING_LIBDIR}" is that correct ? May 13 14:30:54 uv1: yes May 13 14:31:40 zecke: I was thinking about letting oe_libinstall run 'file ' to see if it matches the target arch May 13 14:32:19 koen: make this in the insane.bbclass ;) May 13 14:32:54 zecke: which bitbake command does create the install dir and put the files in ? May 13 14:33:22 zecke: but oe_libinstall will hopefully be obsolete soon in do_stage ;) May 13 14:34:15 uv1: do_stage will stage? May 13 14:34:23 uv1: check base.bbclass May 13 14:34:57 zecke: I promiss to write more docs for OE in the future May 13 14:35:20 zecke: did you see http://venge.net/monotone/wiki/VersionedPolicy ? May 13 14:35:24 koen: well, I'm writing Docus ATM May 13 14:35:42 * zecke should port some stuff to Qtopia ATM :} May 13 14:35:47 but started writing Docs May 13 14:36:28 * koen updates http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/node/7 May 13 14:36:55 koen: I have "hack cpp", "hack monotone to see the 'diff in the revs'" on my weekend list May 13 14:37:38 I had 'buy new clothes' on my list May 13 14:37:47 koen: clothes? May 13 14:38:22 yes May 13 14:38:35 koen: do you plan to leave your mac alone? May 13 14:38:55 it was alone the whole day :) May 13 14:39:24 " I don't like much Gpe environment, so I guess I just have to find out how to make custom Xinit scripts and load a lighter WM" May 13 14:39:30 lighter as Matchbox?!?!?! May 13 14:39:46 koen: Matchbox is bloated ;) May 13 14:40:06 why are all z users so sensitive for TT FUD and propaganda? May 13 14:40:21 just uninstall the GUI :) May 13 14:45:58 zecke: Found it. Damn .libs dir in uvdebug source package from a history i376 build. Thanks for help. Sometimes the easiest way is the best (though longest). "find / -name libuvdebug-0.2.2" did help to fix the bug May 13 14:46:49 BTW : Thanks to all, my sound problem is gone with the latest oz354x image. CL860 sounds again ;-) May 13 14:50:06 uv1: Makefile was close ;) May 13 14:50:15 uv1: I have fallen victim to that a lot of times May 13 14:51:02 zecke: Thanks. Which docs are you working on ATM ? May 13 14:51:19 uv1: OE Manual in general May 13 14:51:33 uv1: starting with how to make use of external toolchains to build packages with OE May 13 14:52:34 step 1: aquire 10 goats May 13 14:53:11 step 2: hire voodoo priest May 13 14:54:19 step 3: ????? May 13 14:54:23 step 4: profit May 13 14:55:56 zecke: Why external toolchains ? May 13 14:56:05 companies May 13 14:56:28 uv1: because I have a given toolchain in front of me May 13 14:57:06 zecke: So you prepare a doc for professional OE usage ? May 13 14:57:07 uv1: at my research project I just need to provide packages of my work May 13 14:57:24 uv1: well, as I'm not a professional writer: NO ;) May 13 14:57:29 uv1: I hope to get it started May 13 14:58:58 OE still lacks multi user usage. Could be interesting to get that set up (at least for my company). May 13 15:00:01 uv1: I want to start documenting what we have :) May 13 15:00:24 zecke: which is not few stuff. May 13 15:00:25 uv1: e.g. I would create a common toolchain May 13 15:00:40 uv1: and then build additional stuff locally (the package you maintain) May 13 15:00:48 uv1: then upload your proven packages to a package server May 13 15:01:07 uv1: and have a 'server' run the creation of images and feeds regulary May 13 15:01:14 and put staging under package management :) May 13 15:01:32 and have a C .bb parser as well May 13 15:02:22 mickey|bbiab: could you allow pushing org.openembedded.documentation ;) May 13 15:03:02 koen: how to do that and what does it help ? May 13 15:03:22 zecke: done May 13 15:03:44 koen: write your diss, don't hide yourself behind koen May 13 15:03:53 as koen is shopping for clothes May 13 15:04:23 hello all May 13 15:04:26 hey gremlin[it] May 13 15:04:32 hey gremlin[it] May 13 15:07:49 zecke: org.oe.documentation should be synced to the other servers as well May 13 15:18:21 zecke: and I hooked that branch up to the cia trigger as well May 13 15:18:35 *food* May 13 15:20:08 damn May 13 15:20:16 xmlto is creating a wrong tex file... May 13 15:22:04 hey May 13 15:31:32 gosh I hate docbook May 13 15:41:03 zecke: both icewm and blackbox doesnt have xserver as a depend, should I simply add that on the DEPEND list or am I missing something? May 13 15:42:36 KenJlime: they don't need a xserver :} May 13 15:42:53 KenJlime: for your machine you might add a RDEPENDS on a xserver May 13 15:44:02 zecke: how you mean they dont need an xserver :D ? May 13 15:44:19 KenJlime: X11 is a network transparent protocol May 13 15:44:38 KenJlime: so you don't have a xserver as built or runtime dependency May 13 15:44:51 KenJlime: check the images in meta/*-image.bb May 13 15:45:12 Ah, I get your point. But if I want to run it on my jornada, I will still "want" an xserver there.. May 13 15:45:14 KenJlime: they add a xserver to the RDEPENDS May 13 15:45:47 KenJlime: it looks like the best practice is to add xserver to RDEPENDS in the *-image.bb May 13 15:46:50 Shouldnt it be better to add it to both blackbox and icewm packages? Most will still want an xserver installed on their machine May 13 15:47:37 KenJlime: no May 13 15:47:56 all: suppose I want to add a new package (libcairo in fact), do I first need to build libcairo stand-alone to see how it builds? May 13 15:48:03 KenJlime: if you install curl, you don't install cherokee or apacahe either ;) May 13 15:48:16 likewise: that depends, do it step by step May 13 15:48:26 likewise: create the bb file and fetch the src May 13 15:48:34 likewise: add the md5sum May 13 15:48:46 likewise: then configure it, then compile, then package, then stage it ;) May 13 15:48:52 zecke: oki I get your basic idea. We dont want debian massive deps. May 13 15:48:55 zecke: ah simple. :-) May 13 15:49:03 zecke: well, I'm giving it a try May 13 15:49:12 stand-by for explosions... May 13 15:50:28 zecke: one quick other question though, the icewm package does some pre and post configurations (linking files and renaming). I would like this removed as its basicly confusing and dont server any purpose, any thoughts? May 13 15:51:16 question 1: librsvg can depend *either* on libcairo or *either* on libart. How would I deal with this? May 13 15:52:44 likewise: currently two packages :} May 13 15:53:12 but I leave that to the gtk folks to comment on May 13 15:53:35 anyway need to work :} May 13 16:02:39 zecke: I fixed the xorg stuff fetching problem. here is my patch http://oe.pastebin.com/715447 May 13 16:04:13 no ;) May 13 16:04:25 zecke: huh ? May 13 16:04:36 zecke: :) May 13 16:05:12 zecke: but some bitbake files need renaming. here is my renaming patch http://oe.pastebin.com/715481 May 13 16:05:19 cyrilRomain: fetching works here May 13 16:05:21 zecke: or I'm completly wrong May 13 16:05:42 cyrilRomain: older OE data? May 13 16:05:47 zecke: no May 13 16:06:04 need to merge? May 13 16:06:12 (multiple heads) May 13 16:06:18 but I use the http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/sources/ CVS_TARBALL_STASH, maybe it is that May 13 16:06:23 I was able to fetch randrproto_1.1.2 May 13 16:06:37 * cyrilRomain looks for multiple heads May 13 16:06:40 cyrilRomain: well.. May 13 16:07:02 cyrilRomain: it tries TARBALL_STASH and falls back to the real source May 13 16:07:23 re May 13 16:07:26 wb May 13 16:18:56 lol ghc segfaults :} May 13 16:19:51 ... you know ... May 13 16:20:00 who maintains the bug tracker? May 13 16:20:29 is there a chance that actual device families might be added as a platform? May 13 16:20:44 instead of selecting "other" all the time May 13 16:20:51 hi emte May 13 16:20:58 would make it a bit easier to filter May 13 16:21:03 hey May 13 16:21:39 whoohaah. librsvg depends on X? eek May 13 16:21:57 emte: koen should be able to do that May 13 16:22:03 and i am now curious, why are they trying to build gcj on superH? May 13 16:22:32 likewise: it shouldn't, It should use cairo for rendering, pango->fontconfig May 13 16:23:00 likewise: ah and it can use gtk-pixbuf to convert the cairo image to Gtk+ May 13 16:23:18 emte: why shouldn't they ;) May 13 16:23:20 yes, it's probably gtk+ pulling the X tree, right May 13 16:23:49 zecke, does it help to add the various platforms tho? for me it would just be the ability to see the status of a single platform at once and look at those bugs only May 13 16:23:57 instead of trying to search through all May 13 16:24:46 zecke, does java build for any non-pc type arch? May 13 16:25:20 s/java/jvm, etc May 13 16:25:36 emte they dont know better May 13 16:26:02 i am just not aware of it working for any platforms currently May 13 16:26:22 aside form x86 May 13 16:26:34 last i checked they have java for sparc too May 13 16:26:41 s/x86/pc-type May 13 16:27:05 yeah it works on sparc May 13 16:27:17 i was a bit hasty in saying x86 May 13 16:27:50 but for pxa, sa, embedded processors May 13 16:27:53 emte: Im not sure if it builds for arm May 13 16:29:04 http://freshmeat.net/projects/j2se/ <- mentions arm May 13 16:29:18 hmm, slow email relay .... i see they decided to not build it May 13 16:29:47 actually ... does sablevm build? May 13 16:30:30 mentions it, but after searching their ftp, it's an old version May 13 16:31:49 hmm May 13 16:31:56 gcj might build then May 13 16:32:20 i am not sure if you can build it against sablevm tho ... May 13 16:33:32 all: I want to override do_configure() of the librsvg package. Should I use oe_runconf inside? May 13 16:33:56 just put what you want in do_configure May 13 16:34:11 do_configure(){ blah blah } May 13 16:34:35 emte: sure, but the actual package ./configure should be sane (--build --host etc) May 13 16:35:14 that sounds more like a patch is needed for OE to recognize and replace May 13 16:35:30 OE/bitbake May 13 16:35:34 do_configure() { ./configure --with-x=no } will not work for cross-compiling. May 13 16:35:43 (I guess) May 13 16:35:57 you should be using EXTRA_OECONF May 13 16:36:00 for that May 13 16:36:10 well, configure wouldn't think it was cross-compiling without passing --build and/or --host May 13 16:36:18 EXTRA_OECONF = "--with-x=no" May 13 16:36:21 yes May 13 16:36:56 that will get picked up when configure is run May 13 16:36:58 and bitbake will magically append the proper cross compile directives? May 13 16:37:30 one would hope, it depends who ythe autotool stuff is written May 13 16:37:40 s/who/how May 13 16:38:58 and build, host, target are "usually" passed via inheriting autotools May 13 16:39:10 otherwise bitbake wouldnt work May 13 16:39:42 there are always exceptions tho May 13 16:40:55 emte: thanks, I am trying to get a minimal librsvg using (lib)cairo here. It is not yet in OE. May 13 16:42:19 likewise, are you just modifying pb_ 's? May 13 16:42:33 librsvg_2.9.5.bb May 13 16:42:56 emte: bringing it to at least 2.13, which has a cairo backend. Latest librsvg snapshot is 2.15. May 13 16:43:15 before librsvg 2.13, it has a libart backend dependency May 13 16:43:31 yes, for now, I am modifying .bb's May 13 16:44:12 likewise, does cairo have an LGPL license? May 13 16:44:48 emte: yes. May 13 16:45:01 emte: http://cairographics.org/ May 13 16:45:14 it's cute that the 'slow' cairo backend is faster as the libart one May 13 16:45:24 koen: really? May 13 16:45:25 thats good, the gpe people will like it May 13 16:45:33 cairo is anything but optimized yet May 13 16:45:39 likewise: yes May 13 16:45:50 likewise: on x86 that is May 13 16:45:56 on arm it might be a bit slower May 13 16:46:29 hey koen , can you add some device families to Platform in the bugtracker? Just to make filtering a bit easier May 13 16:46:31 my aim is to get this app built using OE, as a learning project for me: http://macslow.thepimp.net/?page_id=23 May 13 16:46:39 * cyrilRomain throwing himself to a brick wall May 13 16:46:49 one day May 13 16:46:57 * cyrilRomain should ALWAYS check its OE update script, especially when you don't OE for two weeks ! May 13 16:47:36 cyrilRomain: we are working on it (everything) ;) May 13 16:47:42 likewise: the basic steps are outlined in http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/node/12 May 13 16:47:55 zecke: ;) May 13 16:48:03 koen: why is that not in the usermanual? May 13 16:48:33 zecke: because I don't have access to the OE site May 13 16:48:42 koen: I know, but I first need to minimize the current OE dependencies. I do not want X, I want this to be really small. May 13 16:49:12 cairo works without X? May 13 16:49:30 cairo doesn't depend on X May 13 16:49:38 it can use other backends May 13 16:49:40 interesting ... May 13 16:51:01 emte: of course May 13 16:51:21 emte: it just converts vectors into vectors or pixels. May 13 16:51:57 cairo is about vector -> {ps, pdf, opengl, pixmaps} May 13 16:52:49 emte: in my case, I just want it to render to memory (framebuffer) May 13 16:53:07 emte: but with svg support on top through librsvg. May 13 17:03:44 ah, i just expected it to depend on some type of display server i guess May 13 17:07:19 emte: gpe-bootsplash uses cairo to print svgs onto the framebuffer May 13 17:07:53 ah May 13 17:12:57 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r543f0509... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-ezx: add patch for mmc, add e680 defconfig May 13 17:13:02 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r66d637d5... 10/conf/machine/ (e680.conf a780.conf): add machine conf for Motorola e680 (ezx platform) May 13 17:13:06 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r191e4adf... 10/packages/qpphoto/ (4 files in 2 dirs): May 13 17:13:06 add qpphoto, a photo manipulation program for Opie. May 13 17:13:06 bbfile and patches courtesy nicolasfr@gmail.com - thanks! May 13 17:13:06 closes #985 May 13 17:15:32 ~lart adsl May 13 17:15:33 * ibot hits adsl with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha May 13 17:16:26 mickey|bbiab: ping May 13 17:16:44 geek toy: http://www.egmpc.com/2006/05/12/turn-your-monitor-into-a-touch-screen/ May 13 17:18:02 cia where are you? May 13 17:18:20 I have pushed a skeleton for the usermanual May 13 17:18:49 feel free to add your adding a new package to it ;) May 13 17:19:44 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * rb420c7ee... 10/README: May 13 17:19:44 README: May 13 17:19:44 Describe what this module is about. We will hold user and developer May 13 17:19:44 manuals in this module. May 13 17:19:48 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r81a400ef... 10/usermanual/ (Makefile usermanual.xml): May 13 17:19:48 usermanual: May 13 17:19:48 Add Makefile from bitbake and initial docbook for the Usermanual. May 13 17:19:49 Currently make pdf is broken for whatever reasons... May 13 17:19:51 * koen kicks cia May 13 17:19:57 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r9ad8e049... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 17:19:57 usermanual: May 13 17:19:57 Add a small introduction copied from the BitBake manual May 13 17:19:59 (some parts) May 13 17:20:01 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * ra01e5fa0... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 17:20:03 usermanual: May 13 17:20:05 -Add History to Introduction May 13 17:20:07 bya ;) May 13 17:20:07 -Start Chapter about the MetaData itself, layout, syntax, May 13 17:20:09 use, howtos May 13 17:20:11 -Start Chapter comparing OpenEmbedded with other solutions May 13 17:20:15 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r46130b35... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 17:20:17 usermanual: May 13 17:20:19 Add chapter (skeleton) for getting OpenEmbedded and BitBake and May 13 17:20:21 how to achieve Common Tasks with OpenEmbedded. May 13 17:24:50 | autoreconf: running: /home/leon/sandbox/ep93xx/oe/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/autoconf [...] May 13 17:24:52 | autom4te: /home/leon/sandbox/ep93xx/oe/build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/m4 terminated by signal: 2 May 13 17:25:47 * koen looks at http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.documentation May 13 17:26:30 not much there yet May 13 17:26:34 but it will grow May 13 17:27:39 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.documentation/usermanual$ make html May 13 17:27:39 make: *** No rule to make target `html.css', needed by `html'. Stop. May 13 17:29:09 hehe May 13 17:29:18 koen: copy the one from bitbake May 13 17:31:27 koen: do you want a darwinport for monotone 0.25.2 and 0.26? May 13 17:31:41 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rc9a730a8... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual: remove 'deb' from packages since OE doesn't support it (yet) May 13 17:31:44 zecke: I'm fine with the stuff from venge.net May 13 17:31:45 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rae9abf9f... 10/usermanual/html.css: add html.css to make "make html" work May 13 17:32:29 koen: http://infohost.nmt.edu/tcc/help/pubs/docbook/multiple-files.html May 13 17:32:40 koen: do we want to use that to split it up? May 13 17:32:57 zecke: not yet May 13 17:33:13 zecke: let's not go the 'OMG flexible' route yet May 13 17:33:49 OMG? May 13 17:34:12 OMG LOL h4x0r 177t speak May 13 17:38:23 * koen adds some stuff to usermanual.xml May 13 17:40:46 ~lart vi May 13 17:40:47 * ibot takes out a cattle prod and gives vi a good jolt May 13 17:42:09 Is there any command to build everything BUT even if something fails it takes the next program May 13 17:42:19 Want to do a quick check on what compiles and what doesnt May 13 17:43:00 bitbake -k world May 13 17:43:06 zecke: pöng May 13 17:43:07 mickeyl: hey May 13 17:43:18 you better have a large drive tho May 13 17:43:30 mickeyl: once you are done with your first writing, you may continue on the user manual May 13 17:43:39 *nod* May 13 17:43:58 56G free space would be enough right? May 13 17:44:09 koen: to fetch the source? yes May 13 17:44:11 ~20GM iirc May 13 17:44:20 GB even May 13 17:44:26 oki thx May 13 17:46:20 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r15d351e7... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual: add some more history May 13 17:47:16 -DEPENDS = "xproto libx11 xextproto" May 13 17:47:16 +DEPENDS = "xproto libx11 xext xextproto" May 13 17:47:16 koen: try make pdf May 13 17:47:21 does that make sense to you x guys? May 13 17:47:24 in libxi May 13 17:47:39 mickeyl: doesn't xext depend on xextproto? May 13 17:47:48 possible May 13 17:47:53 dunno, xext was missing May 13 17:48:27 * koen apt-get install xmlto May 13 17:48:41 Making portrait pages on a4 paper (210 mm x 297 mm) May 13 17:48:42 make: *** [pdf] Error 1 May 13 17:49:09 right, libext depends on xextproto May 13 17:49:18 i'll remove that and commit the line May 13 17:50:17 * koen apt-get install passivetex May 13 17:51:18 http://oe-devel.bkbits.net:8080/openembedded/cset@1.2648.59.105?nav=index.html|src/. May 13 17:51:40 zecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/pdf-b0rkage May 13 17:52:01 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rc8459c74... 10/packages/xlibs/libxi_X11R7.0-1.0.0.bb: libxi: libxi needs xext May 13 17:52:12 latest html: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE/index.html May 13 17:53:07 hmm encoding is missinbg? May 13 17:53:23 zecke: no, it defaults to ISO88 May 13 17:53:27 it should be UTF-8 May 13 17:54:07 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r5aa10919... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 17:54:07 usermanual: May 13 17:54:07 in to -> into May 13 17:55:45 zecke: monotone mv usermanual.xml developermanual.xml --execute? May 13 17:56:20 LOL: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE/ch02s04.html May 13 17:56:22 usermanual == devels using OE to achieve things May 13 17:56:37 devel manual == devels creating and improving OE itself? May 13 17:57:01 koen: Could you copy the stuff from the Angstrom site to the manual? May 13 17:57:08 ;) May 13 17:59:07 hrw|gone: so my removal of the gcc preferred version killed the build, eh? Seemed ok on my end.... May 13 17:59:41 hrw|gone: hmmmm...no... May 13 17:59:50 hrw|gone: gcc compiled fine for me....somehow.... May 13 18:00:05 hrw|gone: perhaps someone else killed it May 13 18:00:38 * JustinP is running a build gcc from scratch May 13 18:01:04 hrm May 13 18:01:19 zecke: what's the easiest way to do
code
in docbook? May 13 18:02:11 May 13 18:02:14 or May 13 18:02:17 thanks May 13 18:02:20 look at the bitbake usermanual :} May 13 18:11:36 evening May 13 18:13:55 hi May 13 18:14:41 hey zecke May 13 18:14:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raf4df6cf... 10/packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.112.bb: libgpewidget: add 0.112 May 13 18:19:13 zecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE/ch02s04.html May 13 18:20:19 nice May 13 18:20:33 the power of c&p + sed May 13 18:22:06 koen: add ;md5sum=yoursum May 13 18:23:28 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r1636c5af... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: add section about writing metadata, donated by the Angstrom Distribution May 13 18:26:56 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r90e77464... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: add the md5sum attribute to SRC_URI in the 'adding metadata' section May 13 18:30:41 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r7c86958e... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: elaborate on md5sum May 13 18:35:17 ~hug kexec May 13 18:35:19 * ibot hugs kexec May 13 18:39:10 hi to all ... May 13 18:39:50 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * ra0a65947... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual: set xml encoding to utf-8, doesn't affect html or pdf output May 13 18:40:10 i would know if someone have some info about the XScale 80219 processor (PCI XScale) and where is possible to find a board with it .. other than Kontron's GP8 May 13 18:41:54 re May 13 18:49:17 has anyone been getting kexec to work? I tried it on NSLU2 (big endian) but without much success.... May 13 18:49:48 it works on LE May 13 18:49:53 for CoreDump|home at least :) May 13 18:49:57 eFfeM-log: works perfectly on my spitz May 13 18:50:16 I've been using it for a while now to test kernels and boot back into 2.4 kernel May 13 18:51:06 it works fine but you can't assign custom kernel parameters (not implemented in ARM patch) May 13 18:51:10 JustinP: big endian or little endian? May 13 18:51:32 * eFfeM fears it is an endianness or memory problem May 13 18:52:33 Does anyone know how the kbd scancodes are changed when Num_Lock is active? Is that a kbd hardware thing? May 13 18:54:13 eFfeM: no idea, I'm assuming LE form what zecke said May 13 18:54:36 zecke: check http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE/index.html May 13 18:54:37 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r17e055a5... 10/usermanual/ (docbook-utf8.xsl Makefile): May 13 18:54:37 usermanual/Makefile: use custom stylesheet to output UTF-8 html May 13 18:54:37 usermanual/docbook-utf8.xsl: custom stylesheet to output UTF-8 html May 13 18:55:12 JustinP: tnx for the info, I'll try to dig further into this next week May 13 18:55:43 koen: my name is longer than yours ;) May 13 18:56:06 koen: currently it looks like the Krusty biography :} May 13 18:56:36 zecke: (c) Herschel Krustovski? May 13 18:57:20 I think yes May 13 18:57:26 did he die in a airplane crash? May 13 18:58:12 no, that was fake May 13 18:58:22 I thought he was dead ;) May 13 18:58:39 I'm still mad at him because he shot Apu May 13 18:58:41 iirc only 3 characters have died May 13 18:59:13 bleeding gums murphy, maude flanders and a doctor May 13 18:59:26 but I haven't seen the latest 3 seasons yet May 13 18:59:29 maude :( May 13 19:07:26 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r30eebf6f... 10/packages/xqt2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): add Xqt2, an X server for Opie environments. patch courtesy Enodr - thanks! May 13 19:10:31 zecke: ahem? Sideshow Bob! May 13 19:10:49 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r2e4b8baa... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: History: Better wording May 13 19:11:13 JustinP: and destroy my believe ;) May 13 19:11:17 Die JustinP Die ;) May 13 19:11:43 ljp: "Opie is not yet ready for the 770". you plan to add 770 support to it? May 13 19:12:09 mickeyl: he plans that for a long time May 13 19:12:25 oh ok. plans are cool May 13 19:12:27 but the 770 doesn't run on a 5000d, so it is crap! May 13 19:12:43 koen: 770 doesn't use IA-32 ;) May 13 19:13:57 zecke: it's German for "The JustinP The" May 13 19:13:58 zecke: we need to use "highly qualified engineers" more in OE docs May 13 19:14:30 koen: hehe May 13 19:14:30 heh May 13 19:14:51 We don't need testers for our product, we are highly qualified engineers :} May 13 19:15:47 of course we are May 13 19:16:01 koen: quit talking out yer ass May 13 19:16:17 ljp: hi lorn May 13 19:16:54 heya May 13 19:17:28 ya, i have planned that for a long time. not enough time, especially with 8 month old May 13 19:17:43 understood May 13 19:17:58 so there's no one else interested in working on that in your company? May 13 19:18:22 ljp: release snapshots, I would be happy to make them work May 13 19:18:57 zecke: could you send a mail to oe@ about the documentation branch? May 13 19:18:59 i amthe only one with the 770 on my desk May 13 19:19:22 koen: yeah, let me add the chapter first ;) May 13 19:19:31 and we have better devices to play with as well May 13 19:19:54 phipils 968 seems to be the current interest May 13 19:19:59 philips May 13 19:20:09 what that? May 13 19:20:10 * mickeyl googles May 13 19:20:30 hey mithro May 13 19:20:44 hey mickeyl May 13 19:20:46 just off to bed May 13 19:20:46 mithro: http://www.gsmarena.com/philips_968-1229.php May 13 19:20:48 cinese phone that run qtopia May 13 19:20:54 chinese May 13 19:20:56 ah right May 13 19:21:14 ljp: wtf are you doing up at this hour? :) May 13 19:21:14 but it doesnt have bt or wifi May 13 19:21:32 i always akw up this early. sleep is overrated May 13 19:22:02 morning ljp May 13 19:22:08 hey pb May 13 19:22:13 ljp: any chance tt will be intrested in sending some people to LCA 2007? May 13 19:22:56 zecke: 'make xthml' works as well May 13 19:22:56 yup May 13 19:23:07 koen: I know May 13 19:23:26 although i couldnt get them to send anyone to cebit.au May 13 19:23:35 hjeh May 13 19:23:50 ljp: i'm going to try and run the Embedded Miniconf again at LCA 2007 May 13 19:24:00 it's in Sydney this time May 13 19:24:06 ljp: how many man years of work were spent on making Qtopia work? May 13 19:24:14 mickeyl: any possibility of sponsoring? May 13 19:24:23 s/mickeyl/mithro/ May 13 19:24:45 we got qtopia on it working in about a week May 13 19:24:48 http://lca2007.linux.org.au/ May 13 19:25:12 zecke: i'm again going to investigate CELF to see if I can get them to pony up some money May 13 19:25:41 but don't hold your breath May 13 19:26:07 koen: ever run GPE on 48MB RAM? Would that be feasible or not? May 13 19:26:28 anyone else having problems compiling gcc in oz354x? May 13 19:26:35 seems like it would be somewhat of a blocker... May 13 19:26:47 hrw said his failed....(and this blocks e-image..) May 13 19:26:50 mickeyl: gpe 'runs' on the c700 May 13 19:26:55 oh right May 13 19:26:56 that's 32? May 13 19:26:59 yes May 13 19:27:03 how good? May 13 19:27:07 32 is a bit tight May 13 19:27:10 hrw|gone: oh, BTW, did you compile e-image-core? Those don't depend on gcc May 13 19:27:15 mickeyl: c700 is broken anyway May 13 19:27:19 >40 should do for vga screens May 13 19:27:32 alweays good to blame the hardware May 13 19:27:42 hmm... i guess i could try to limit it w/ mem=48 to get a feeling May 13 19:27:50 mickeyl: using thumb or XIP would make it even better May 13 19:28:21 ljp: a broken cache is bad ;) May 13 19:28:31 ljp: it is worse than a missing one :} May 13 19:28:42 ~lart hrw's constant gcc problems May 13 19:28:42 * ibot hereby declares hrw's constant gcc problems a troll May 13 19:29:12 ljp: is the Berlin office open already? May 13 19:29:17 opie has no problema runningon c700 May 13 19:29:31 not yet May 13 19:30:32 mickeyl: I think 48MB RAM should be okay for gpe, though it depends a bit on things like your screen size May 13 19:31:09 any reason to not set CC, CXX, CPP in native.bbclass? May 13 19:32:16 pb_: a phone w/ 240x320 May 13 19:32:29 zecke: other than it being somewhat superfluous? I guess not May 13 19:32:43 mickeyl: that should be fine May 13 19:33:32 pb_: you can have a compiler not called 'gcc' May 13 19:33:39 pb_: e.g. gcc-1.4 May 13 19:34:02 ah, true May 13 19:34:10 boy kexec is a true time-saver May 13 19:34:17 or, even (horror) I suppose you might not even be using gcc May 13 19:34:27 CoreDump|home: and how May 13 19:34:34 scp zImage-2.6.16 root@poodle:/tmp/ ; ssh root@poodle "kexec -l /tmp/zImage-2.6.16 ; sleep 1 ; kexec -e" May 13 19:34:45 i've seen systems where binutils and gcc are installed as $TARGET-gcc-$VERSION May 13 19:34:49 pb_: why would anyone be that insane? May 13 19:36:18 zecke: which chapter? May 13 19:36:32 Using OE with prebuilt toolchains May 13 19:36:34 zecke: who knows. I guess they might have bought icc by mistake and want to get their money's worth from it. May 13 19:37:18 pb_: I know ICE, but ICC? Internal Compiler C? May 13 19:37:22 ;) May 13 19:37:26 ~lart intel May 13 19:37:27 * ibot takes out a cattle prod and gives intel a good jolt May 13 19:37:40 zecke: :-} May 13 19:38:06 pb_: good old gcc2.8 times when compiling c++ and corba... May 13 19:38:09 with bad ram :} May 13 19:38:26 zecke: apparently icc delivers deliver exceptional performance, usability, and business advantages. what more could you want? May 13 19:38:38 whoops, one too many "deliver"s in that sentence May 13 19:38:39 lol May 13 19:38:58 icc CTO's compiler of choiche? May 13 19:39:13 right May 13 19:39:23 hehe May 13 19:39:32 if only it were award-winning, I would rush out and buy a dozen copies immediately May 13 19:39:38 * mickeyl chuckles May 13 19:39:48 pb_: I bet it plays audio twice as fast ;) May 13 19:40:16 * zecke has missed Poep-Town again :} May 13 19:40:19 pope even May 13 19:40:56 mickeyl: is your favorite sport Women Beach Volley-Ball as well? May 13 19:40:58 zecke: http://www.tendra.org/ May 13 19:41:16 zecke: no kidding! women beach volley ball rocks. May 13 19:41:29 as an actor i prefer squash though May 13 19:41:30 heh May 13 19:41:40 s/actor/active/ May 13 19:42:03 mickeyl: The most important beach volley ball rule is clothing :} May 13 19:42:24 i know. the style and length of the skirts is ruled. May 13 19:42:38 'length' May 13 19:42:43 more like shortness May 13 19:42:47 gnight peoples May 13 19:42:53 g'night mithro, sleep well May 13 19:42:54 mickeyl: When seing the rules I feel bad :} May 13 19:42:58 mickeyl: nite May 13 19:43:00 mithro: 'night May 13 19:43:10 * zecke will change native.bbclass now May 13 19:43:16 zecke: bad? as a human, as a man, as a sabbernder Zuschauer? May 13 19:43:32 mickeyl: as a man :} May 13 19:43:32 :D May 13 19:43:38 right May 13 19:43:40 zecke: it's probably good for the rest of us that the rules have that effect on you. May 13 19:43:43 mickeyl: what sense does it make not have naked players? May 13 19:43:47 * pb_ fears the thought of zecke in a short skirt May 13 19:44:02 * ggilbert joines pb_ in fearing May 13 19:44:03 pb_: I prefer to wear short quilts? May 13 19:44:21 i prefer to wear short patchers May 13 19:44:23 * mickeyl chuckles May 13 19:44:47 tomorrow is mothers-day. are you all prepared? May 13 19:44:57 yes May 13 19:44:57 oh crumbs, is it? May 13 19:44:58 mickeyl: no :} May 13 19:45:14 I will try to behave though May 13 19:45:47 good boy. my wife was 5 hours in the kitchen today for some fancy cakes and stuff May 13 19:45:57 no, actually, today is mothers day. you all are living in the past May 13 19:45:58 if only she would bake for me... May 13 19:46:19 mickeyl: maybe she would if you gave birth May 13 19:46:23 I know I'd be impressed May 13 19:47:47 ya, like a seahorse May 13 19:48:17 hehe May 13 19:50:07 naked players what the heck. May 13 19:50:16 * jnc scrolls up May 13 19:52:04 * JustinP sent flowers May 13 19:53:58 koen: the css looks broken :} May 13 19:54:10 koen: there is no box around 'code' anymore May 13 19:57:24 koen: docbook2pdf can generate ... May 13 20:00:19 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra7df7d1b... 10/packages/libusb/ (libusb-native_0.1.10a.bb libusb_0.1.10a.bb): libusb 0.1.10a: add -native May 13 20:00:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf10f5c84... 10/packages/ezx/ezx-boot-usb-native_svn.bb: add ezx-boot-usb-native, an utility to boot a zImage on an EZX device via USB May 13 20:16:11 mickeyl: did you get your phone yet? May 13 20:16:31 mickeyl: did you order it? May 13 20:18:20 zecke: i still get a blue background sin sections May 13 20:20:15 hmm May 13 20:21:34 zecke: this one is for you: May 13 20:22:32 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r907bda87... 10/usermanual/html.css: usermanual/html.css: add a 1px border around sections May 13 20:25:37 zecke: the docboox xsl file is breaking the pdf generation May 13 20:25:49 zecke: try 'docbook2pdf -d docbook-utf8.xsl usermanual.xml' May 13 20:25:58 that will give the same error as 'make pdf' May 13 20:29:54 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rc0056704... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: remove stray '.' May 13 20:30:18 the OE manual in pdf: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE/usermanual.pdf May 13 20:31:54 koen: lol May 13 20:35:41 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r636f82e7... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: remove unneeded whitespace May 13 20:41:26 koen: now we will have the first merge conflict :} May 13 20:41:53 we do? May 13 20:42:05 good thing we have kdiff3 and meld May 13 20:43:01 not yet May 13 20:43:10 I have FileMerge as well May 13 20:44:07 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * rdb1929c3... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 20:44:07 usermanual: May 13 20:44:07 Start with my Chapter May 13 20:44:08 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r9d021eca... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 20:44:08 usermanual: May 13 20:44:08 What makes the toolchain up? May 13 20:44:12 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * rc2cbcbf8... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 20:44:12 usermanual: May 13 20:44:13 use BitBake not bitbake, Bitbake, BitNake, Nakebake... May 13 20:44:17 use and whatever they result in May 13 20:47:41 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/OE/usermanual.pdf updated May 13 20:54:46 CoreDump|home: did you use ts_print or ts_printraw to test the ts? May 13 20:55:08 CoreDump|home: ts_print is expected to output the same coords everywhere without calibration May 13 20:55:19 yes both, they both report the same position regardless where you "touch" May 13 20:55:29 hmmm May 13 20:55:55 and I need to rewire event1 to event0 to get anything at all May 13 20:57:10 could be some general linux breakage May 13 20:57:17 possibly May 13 20:57:30 2.6.x isn't really known for its same dev policy May 13 20:57:37 s/same/sane/ May 13 20:58:11 I know.. :\ May 13 21:00:40 ? May 13 21:01:55 JustinP: on Poodle May 13 21:04:06 ohm yeah May 13 21:04:14 CoreDump|home: is the ts.conf correct? May 13 21:04:40 module pthres pmin=1 May 13 21:04:40 module variance delta=30 May 13 21:04:40 module dejitter delta=100 May 13 21:04:40 module linear May 13 21:04:47 err May 13 21:05:26 ahtry module_raw input May 13 21:05:36 s/ah/ah, / May 13 21:06:14 koen: yay May 13 21:06:22 that did something =D May 13 21:06:35 yay! May 13 21:07:12 is there a way to calibrate it w/o X or Opie? May 13 21:07:26 ipkg install tslib-calibrate May 13 21:08:42 then run ts_calibrate May 13 21:09:06 and behold: a crosshair and some text on the fb May 13 21:11:28 * koen refreshes http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/kernel-26-on-poodle-status-page/ May 13 21:11:37 koen: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21168.png :) May 13 21:12:06 cute May 13 21:12:27 you don't want to know how much time I wasted using busted ts.conf files :( May 13 21:12:36 :\ May 13 21:12:46 koen uh May 13 21:24:59 * koen suspects CoreDump|home is drawing like crazy with tslib-test May 13 21:25:22 heh May 13 21:25:54 oh nice May 13 21:28:05 so only the a-300 has now 2.6 support right now May 13 21:28:22 s/now/no/ May 13 21:33:57 * koen wonders which chapter to attack next for the OE usermanual May 13 21:34:36 ~lart qmake May 13 21:34:37 * ibot resizes qmake's terminal to 40x24 May 13 21:41:08 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rb463f464... 10/usermanual/README: add README with a hint how to make a pdf May 13 21:42:51 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * r5742b03e... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: add angstrom May 13 21:43:04 hehe May 13 21:45:10 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rc742161e... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: arm-linux- is for ARM, not some generic toolchain May 13 21:45:43 koen *g* May 13 21:47:42 * koen waits for zecke to start cursing about merge conflicts May 13 21:48:05 happy motherday to all May 13 21:51:30 ~lart Qtopia for forcing to link all crappy libs May 13 21:51:31 * ibot nukes Qtopia with a single large nuke for forcing to link all crappy libs May 13 21:58:56 as said by the mac salesperson this afteroon: "and you can run XP on it as well!!!!" May 13 21:59:50 Mac eXPerience :} May 13 21:59:57 yeah May 13 22:00:10 zecke: do you have a digicam that talks ptp? May 13 22:02:34 ptp? May 13 22:02:46 Picture Transfer Protocol May 13 22:02:46 if ptp is > 4 year olds then yes May 13 22:02:50 no ;) May 13 22:03:07 I could implement it on my v4l device :} May 13 22:03:14 :) May 13 22:03:34 osx has a neat trick with digicams that is quite hidden May 13 22:03:46 it can share the cam via bonjour May 13 22:08:05 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * re198af90... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: Poodle / locomo: Enable SysRQ (Address+Home) and fix key-repeat rate May 13 22:08:13 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r255bcc3a... 10/packages/keymaps/ (files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map keymaps_1.0.bb): keymaps: Adjust Poodle keymap May 13 22:08:19 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r18b16b9c... 10/packages/tslib/ (tslib/poodle/ts.conf tslib/poodle/tslib.sh tslib_cvs.bb): May 13 22:08:19 keymaps: Adjust Poodle keymap May 13 22:08:19 tslib: Poodle: Fix ts.conf and tslib.sh -> Working touchscreen w/ kernel 2.6 May 13 22:08:23 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r0bab1541... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: Poodle / locomo: Enable SysRQ (Address+Home) and fix key-repeat rate May 13 22:08:29 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r29e6764d... 10/packages/keymaps/files/poodle/keymap-2.6.map: keymaps: It helps to commit the finished keymap... May 13 22:20:00 CoreDump|home: nice progress on the poodle stuff May 13 22:20:52 thanks. I just hope RP gets some time and motivation to fix the remaining kernel bugs. May 13 22:21:45 I'm so happy I didn't buy a poodle May 13 22:21:56 * koen loves his h2200 May 13 22:22:05 * JoeSchmo always wanted a german shepard May 13 22:22:49 koen: w/ kernel 2.6 it isn't too bad, really. But 2.4 is a terrible joke May 13 22:23:27 if it wasn't for the RAM, it would be a usable PDA =D May 13 22:23:41 a pxa250 with 32mb ram and no wireless stuff May 13 22:23:53 lol May 13 22:24:02 does the h2200 have a built-in kbd? May 13 22:24:30 if '4 buttons' counts as a kbd, yes ;) May 13 22:24:35 hehe May 13 22:24:49 I'll take a kbd over WLAN any day =) May 13 22:25:00 CoreDump|home: bluetooth keyboard :) May 13 22:25:03 much better May 13 22:25:05 hmm May 13 22:28:05 I've been reading all of the bitbake docs but one thing I'm not sure of is what does the virtual mean when you type "bitbake virtual/package_name"? May 13 22:29:01 gerrath_: it will search for some one providinf virtual/package_name May 13 22:29:27 zecke: does Opie use its own keymap? The keymapping is all messed up in Opie but fine in the VT May 13 22:30:02 CoreDump|home: is the kernel keymap patch applied? May 13 22:30:11 umm May 13 22:30:13 no clue May 13 22:30:26 oz354x Opie with a 2.6 kernel May 13 22:30:30 zecke hacked a while on that issue I remeber May 13 22:30:38 woglinde: ?? May 13 22:30:41 zecke, I'm still not following what the word virtual stands for? Is it an argument of bitbake or just identified somewere in a .bb files? May 13 22:30:47 CoreDump|home: okay it is applied May 13 22:30:57 gerrath_: well... May 13 22:31:07 gerrath_: it is PROVIDES += "virtual/kernel" May 13 22:31:08 zecke kernel-keymap May 13 22:31:29 gerrath_: is inside a .bb file as we have more than one kernel May 13 22:31:46 gerrath_: bitbake virtual/kernel will build any from the available kernels May 13 22:31:55 gerrath_: similiar to bitbake virtual/libsdl May 13 22:32:17 ahh, ok so really you could call it anything but virtual is just common syntax for nameing "PROVIDES" May 13 22:32:18 gerrath_: e.g. on libsdl we have two versions of sdl available, one for X and one for QtE May 13 22:32:45 gerrath_: yeah, virtual/ is just for the case of having more than one provider ;) May 13 22:33:01 gerrath_: normally PROVIDES include ${PN} May 13 22:33:11 gerrath_: so foo.bb is providing foo May 13 22:33:23 gerrath_: a bitbake foo would try to build foo May 13 22:33:39 zecke, I just wanted to make sure, since sometimes the name _1.1 (version for example) is actually parsed off and used for something. I wanted to make sure virtual/ was not parsed off and used for something else. May 13 22:33:41 gerrath_: using PREFERRED_PROVIDER and PREFERRED_VERSION you can help BitBake to select one May 13 22:34:00 gerrath_: BitBake tries to parse PN and PV from the filename May 13 22:34:11 foo_0.1.bb should be PN=foo and PV=0.1 May 13 22:34:32 zecke, yes I followed that, and that is what lead me to wonder if virtual/ was not an identifier for something else. May 13 22:35:15 we use virtual (manually) if we have equally good providers May 13 22:35:19 zecke, but really virtual/ is just part of the PROVIDES name and is not parsed for anything else :) May 13 22:35:21 like for kernel,sdl, xserer May 13 22:35:31 right :) May 13 22:37:03 thanks. May 13 22:37:28 you are welcome May 13 22:38:23 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * rd6b8d363... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 13 22:38:23 usermanual: May 13 22:38:23 Continue documenting the using of external toolchains May 13 22:38:23 Started explaining debian package renaming and shlibs May 13 22:38:23 magic. May 13 22:44:17 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r8d2fe31c... 10/packages/meta/task-e-x11.bb: task-e-x11: make it actually have some content again (same as task-e-x11-core for now) May 13 22:50:53 * chouimat is away: Zzzz May 13 22:51:26 is there an irc log available? May 13 22:51:45 ~logs May 13 22:51:47 apt/ibot/jbot/purl all log to http://ibot.rikers.org// where channelname is html encoded ie: %23debian | lines that start with a space are not shown | some channels have stats at http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/.html.gz, or updated "nightly" May 13 22:54:43 g'night May 13 22:54:51 nite May 13 22:55:17 n8 mickey|zzZZzz May 13 22:57:16 CoreDump|home: you said flashing my poodle with a 2.6 kernel might have made my /home partition unreadable by a 2.4 kernel. can i revert this anyhow? May 13 22:57:23 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb971ecbe... 10/packages/ (4 files in 2 dirs): directfb: add version 0.9.25.1 May 13 22:57:46 well, a NAND restore fixes it. Dunno if there are other options May 13 22:58:18 what does NAND restore mean? May 13 22:58:37 getting a nand-restore image and flash it. May 13 22:58:58 where can i get that image? May 13 22:59:06 no clue, really May 13 22:59:26 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r82c13a21... 10/packages/meta/task-e-x11.bb: task-e-x11: make it actually have some content again (same as task-e-x11-core for now) May 13 22:59:28 hmm, thanks May 13 23:00:26 i will try to flash the original sharp image, maybe this helps May 13 23:00:49 I would like to push something, how much do you plan to push? May 13 23:00:53 a normal image doesn't touch home May 13 23:03:26 ok, and using format from the service menu doesnt work either? May 13 23:04:25 never tried that May 13 23:07:33 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r867c8df0... 10/contrib/qa/ipkg-diff/ipkg.py: May 13 23:07:33 contrib/qa/ipkg-diff/ipkg.py: May 13 23:07:33 -do not have an argument for the getter methods May 13 23:07:33 -return the file list verbosely May 13 23:07:37 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r4fda81bf... 10/contrib/qa/ipkg-diff/ipkg-diff: May 13 23:07:37 contrib/qa/ipkg-diff/ipkg-diff: May 13 23:07:37 use getattr to get the function by name May 13 23:07:41 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r10e936f7... 10/classes/native.bbclass: May 13 23:07:41 classes/native.bbclass: May 13 23:07:43 Change the CC, CXX, CPP... variables back to gcc. Someone could May 13 23:07:45 have changed them in the bitbake.conf to use a specific version May 13 23:07:47 of any of these tools. e.g. when using a provided toolchain instead May 13 23:07:49 of compiling one with OpenEmbedded. May 13 23:15:25 ~lart CIA May 13 23:15:25 * ibot steals CIA's mojo May 14 00:11:17 nite May 14 00:16:20 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r49989c88... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 14 00:16:20 usermanual: May 14 00:16:20 Write something on how to setup this beast. Cross reference it May 14 00:16:20 to the BitBake collections section in the special feature May 14 00:16:20 chapter. May 14 00:23:20 yes :) May 14 00:34:51 Hello Guys May 14 00:35:12 hello dolphins May 14 00:35:24 wow, you're a funny guy May 14 00:35:50 Did you suck a clown recently or something ? May 14 00:35:59 die. May 14 00:36:06 in a fire. May 14 00:36:19 :-D May 14 00:39:26 JoeSchmo: you can also try my images: http://oe.reversefold.com/images/ May 14 00:39:56 ah, cool, i might May 14 01:19:43 Galik: pong May 14 03:36:54 johnX: remember that there's altboot and loopback images for tetsing too :-) May 14 03:36:57 oops May 14 03:37:03 JoeSchmo: remember that there's altboot and loopback images for tetsing too :-) May 14 03:38:22 hrw|gone: NOTE: package gcc-3.4.4: completed May 14 03:38:30 hrw|gone: I don't understand why gcc keeps failing for you.... May 14 03:39:05 JoeSchmo: I would greatly appreciate a test of my e-image as it works fine for me...I want to make sure it works for someone else too May 14 03:52:32 can anyone help with a "package binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r2: task do_compile: failed" May 14 03:52:58 what is the real error? May 14 03:53:45 /home/bitbake/pvr/build/tmp/work/i586-linux/binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r2/binutils-2.15.94.0.1/gas/config/tc-i386.h:441: error: array type has incomplete May 14 03:54:09 element type May 14 03:54:37 i tried a manual build same error May 14 03:55:03 it seems to be hanging on gas May 14 03:55:18 -r2? May 14 03:55:31 hmmm...I have -r1 in oz354xx May 14 03:55:41 anyway, I don't know why that error is happening... May 14 03:55:46 sorry May 14 03:56:03 how do you change to a different verion May 14 03:56:08 version May 14 03:57:20 you don't usually May 14 03:57:29 what build host? May 14 03:57:48 epia May 14 03:58:10 your host? May 14 03:58:43 build.i686-linux.i586-oe-linux/ May 14 03:58:57 i686 & i586? May 14 03:59:15 yea i am thinking the same thing May 14 03:59:23 but in the config it is i586 May 14 03:59:40 local config May 14 04:00:38 in where? May 14 04:00:40 /home/bitbake/pvr/build/tmp/work/i586-linux/binutils-cross-2.15.94.0.1-r2/binutils-2.15.94.0.1/gas/app.c:31: May 14 04:00:53 no May 14 04:00:55 this is the location of the fail that errors May 14 04:01:01 I'm asking what machine you're building on May 14 04:01:20 the local.conf is in my ...build/conf/local.conf May 14 04:01:44 * JustinP can't help you May 14 04:01:49 i686 May 14 04:01:52 dual May 14 04:03:11 well thanks anyway i'll see if i can get a x86 to build it might be because of epia May 14 04:04:17 yeah, arm is the best supported target May 14 04:54:37 i removed the version of binutils and it compiled 2.16 and is still going hopefully that was the issue May 14 05:06:44 muhahaha http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php May 14 06:29:11 morning all :) May 14 06:55:34 mhhh i got an error building boostrap-image for h3600 May 14 06:55:41 >>> Nothing provides runtime dependency ipkg-linkudev <<< May 14 07:17:19 found : add a space after 'ipkg-link' on file classes/package_ipk.bbclass May 14 08:36:41 gremlin[it]: probably the other way around: you need to add a space before "udev", whereever that's being appended May 14 08:38:21 pb_ i did after ipkg-link ... but what should be the general rule ? a space at beginning or at end ? May 14 08:40:09 gremlin[it]: when appending, at the beginning May 14 08:40:49 incidentally, it seems like a bug that package_ipk.bbclass is adding ipkg-link in there at all. May 14 08:40:50 ah ok ... do probably, as u said, is udev to be changed :) May 14 08:41:33 yeah. it would be silly to require a trailing space in every variable, just in case something is to be appended to it May 14 08:58:48 morning May 14 09:13:35 koen: ping May 14 09:13:45 koen: http://www.com2linux.de/psp/ May 14 09:13:54 koen: you can do indoor camping as well ;) May 14 09:15:19 hi, can someone provide a NAND backup for poodle with pxa255 ? May 14 09:16:40 sws: tried #openzaurus? May 14 09:16:57 zecke: will ask there too May 14 09:24:10 Hithere Zecke: Now we have fully working touchscreen in the htc universal. It's about time to get the Universal in to the OE . May 14 09:25:25 hail zecke May 14 09:26:31 goxboxlive: nice :) May 14 09:26:46 goxboxlive: I will be in the gym the next two hours, either chat with some one else or wait :) May 14 09:28:01 we have also managed to get the acx100 to go online, it failes when we overload it ( like internett, irc and gaim) but it's stable when just using one of the appz at time. May 14 09:28:12 yes May 14 09:29:18 nice, and how far is the wavecom modem? May 14 09:29:37 do you 'speak' the Wavecom Multiplexer yet? May 14 09:30:28 okay cya, I'm almost late and my head will be chopped off by al :} May 14 09:36:57 can anyone get x86 to build a root image? May 14 09:37:18 from the latest sources **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun May 14 09:59:56 2006