**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 15 09:59:56 2006 May 15 10:12:06 zecke: .159 May 15 10:12:32 zecke: see the patches in the bugtracker for ipkg May 15 10:16:27 hrw|work: oh, it is working? May 15 10:16:46 zecke: slow but yes May 15 10:17:37 hmm.. how to make "if(bb.__version < "1.4.3") bb.fatal()" in .conf file? May 15 10:17:53 oops May 15 10:18:04 sanity.bbclass May 15 10:18:08 tx May 15 10:20:36 zecke: I think we use ipkg 0.99.159 in familiar 0.8.4 as well. It seems to be basically okay. May 15 10:21:08 pb__: yeah, my arch.conf was... well May 15 10:21:21 ~lart me for lack of any python/OE conf skills May 15 10:21:21 * ibot whacks hrw|work with the cluebat for lack of any python/OE conf skills May 15 10:21:38 zecke: ah, that old problem May 15 10:22:15 pb__: -isystem is really interesting... May 15 10:22:24 pb__: and gcc feels 30 years old May 15 10:25:32 zecke: mm, being 30 years old sounds like no fun May 15 10:31:09 <_law_> any ideas why i dont have colors with mc over ssh? local it works May 15 10:31:16 _law_: wrong TERM May 15 10:31:38 _law_: TERM=vt100 == b/w mc (force color by mc -c) May 15 10:31:56 <_law_> hrw|work, set my TERM to xterm May 15 10:32:15 <_law_> hrw|work, mc -c works May 15 10:34:17 <_law_> settings alias (int /etc/profile) should also to the job May 15 10:41:58 pb__: remember the gcc issue from ph5? I think I'm bitten by it on gcc3.4.4 May 15 10:42:26 hey Liam May 15 10:43:25 Hey Dirk May 15 10:43:48 does anybody know why the current oe.dev doesn't work with MACHINE=x86 and DISTRI=familiar-unstable? glibc-immediate hungs with errors in bits/*, sais unknown byte order or something like that... May 15 10:44:52 lrg: did you received my mail? May 15 10:45:22 do13, yes - I'll reply tonight from home. May 15 10:47:09 hi Liam May 15 10:47:18 hey Marcin May 15 10:47:20 Terminar: I would use DISTRO=generic May 15 10:47:41 zecke: the alignment thing? May 15 10:48:02 Terminar: sounds like your glibc sources are defective May 15 10:48:05 hrw|work: tested this, also doesn't work :( but i can try again now May 15 10:48:45 Terminar: which glibc version? May 15 10:49:00 it seems that it will build 2.3.2 May 15 10:49:35 hrw|work: I'll only be in Poland for about 3 days (2 in Warsaw) - I'm in a tour so I can't really deviate from it and visit Poznan :( May 15 10:49:44 glibc-initial-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17 May 15 10:50:05 pb__: yes May 15 10:50:20 i took the local.conf mentioned in the wiki, MinimalX86 May 15 10:51:57 zecke: sounds bad. can you send me the .i and .s files? May 15 10:52:37 lrg: did you read hrw's mail? april 2007 is a better date :) May 15 10:52:42 pb__: I will reflash the device first May 15 10:53:06 righto May 15 10:53:34 do13, yes, I'm thinking that. :) May 15 10:54:34 ;) May 15 10:55:57 lrg: are you visiting germany too? May 15 10:56:45 do13: no, the tour is from Warsaw to Vienna and lasts 10 days. May 15 10:57:14 do13: I should manage next year :) May 15 10:57:58 hrw|work: Do you live in Posen? May 15 10:58:16 do13_: yes May 15 10:59:58 do13_: http://42.pl/u/imx May 15 11:01:22 hrw|work: thx May 15 11:04:32 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rdaf910b6... 10/packages/zaurus-updater/zaurus-updater.bb: zaurus-updater: deploy to same dir as images May 15 11:04:36 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r472caf8b... 10/classes/sanity.bbclass: sanity.bbclass: taken from .dev, used by OZ 3.5.4.1 config to limit bitbake to 1.4.2+ May 15 11:04:40 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r6db371ba... 10/conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf: May 15 11:04:40 openzaurus 3.5.4.1: bumped to rc4 May 15 11:04:40 - use sanity class to specify BitBake 1.4.2 as minimal version May 15 11:04:40 - added 3.5.4x source archive into CVS_TARBALL_STASH (oesources is second) May 15 11:15:24 * chouimat is away: works May 15 11:25:51 <_guillermo> how can I subscribe to the oe mailing list? May 15 11:26:48 follow the directions at http://oe.handhelds.org/contact.php May 15 11:30:14 ~lart those who add depends/recommends not on top of recipe May 15 11:30:14 * ibot gives those who add depends/recommends not on top of recipe a "free" copy of Windows and then charges double for "Upgrades" May 15 11:30:22 ~lart thumb patch crap May 15 11:30:22 * ibot shoots thumb patch crap in the head May 15 11:32:57 ade|desk: :) May 15 11:35:14 uclibc svn is really contaminated with thumb cruft trying to patch stuff in that only arm cares about and doesn't even apply. grr grr and thrice grr May 15 11:40:51 <_guillermo> how difficult is running oe distros inside qemu? is there any docor howto besides the official documentation? May 15 11:41:15 _guillermo: http://rpsys.net/openzaurus/qemu/ May 15 11:42:01 ade|desk: did you notice that arm renamed jazelle to thumb2EE? May 15 11:43:33 koen: nope, but then i'm not doing arm stuff atm so really dont care too much ;) May 15 11:47:20 Crofton: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/images/maemo-mapper-works.png May 15 11:50:08 thanks May 15 11:50:49 We are going to Italy in July, I'll need to get a bluetootk gps and start preparing map sets :) May 15 11:52:55 <_guillermo> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/lib/libXscrnSaver-X11R7.0-1.0.1.tar.bz2 can't be downloaded, nor from oesources May 15 11:53:33 <_guillermo> I feel closer to my first angstrom image but all this fetching errors are making me crazy May 15 11:56:18 _guillermo: it is fine that it can't be downloaded from oesources May 15 11:56:26 _guillermo: oesources.org is just a service May 15 11:56:30 _guillermo: not a mirror May 15 11:56:41 _guillermo: fix src_uri, send patch May 15 11:56:51 hrw|work: no the src_uri is right (for Xorg) May 15 11:56:56 aha May 15 11:57:19 _guillermo: and for the last couple of hours I'm fetching all sourcecode of OE May 15 11:57:34 _guillermo: we will have a list of missing sources SOON(TM) May 15 11:58:44 libXscrnSaver is not in X11R7.0/src/everything even.. May 15 11:59:08 ee? May 15 12:00:15 anyway May 15 12:00:23 I'm wating for bittest to finsih May 15 12:09:21 <_guillermo> zecke: that sounds just great May 15 12:30:43 <_guillermo> hrw|work: any idea where to get libXscrnSaver ? isn't it weird that it's not in xorg? May 15 12:32:12 _guillermo: no idea May 15 12:32:27 RP: mmc_oops_fix-r0 is wrong: http://www.kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=032ebf2620ef99a4fedaa0f77dc2272095ac5863;hp=18552b8f227bddf569dade5c69798a37839ea913 May 15 12:35:59 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r7dfdfd7f... 10/packages/gtk+/gtk+_2.6.10.bb: gtk2: really RRECOMMENDS gdk-pixbux loaders - close #990 May 15 12:36:04 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r034bc4e4... 10/packages/pango/pango_1.8.1.bb: pango: RRECOMMEND pango modules - close #989 May 15 12:37:20 hrw|work: could you push those into .dev as well? May 15 12:38:53 koen: can but dont know what pb will tell about them (he is maintainer of it) May 15 12:40:13 koen: hmm.. .dev has pango 1.8.2 also - do you know which one is used at all? May 15 12:40:55 angstrom uses the newest May 15 12:42:01 then add it: +RRECOMMENDS_${PN} = "pango-module-basic-x pango-module-basic-fc" into them May 15 12:44:13 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r27: task do_patch: completed May 15 12:45:20 koen: same with gtk+ - I do not know which ver is used in .dev May 15 12:55:50 tnb: guido just got mplayer working on the hx :) May 15 12:56:05 hi koen, cool! May 15 12:56:28 the rfid thing still doesn't work, but at least it can play movies now May 15 12:56:43 someone know good UML editor for X11? May 15 12:57:24 umbrello :} May 15 12:57:37 12:48 < pvanhoof> but it's the best of {argouml, gaphor, umbrello, dia, topcased} May 15 12:57:47 (talking about umbrello) May 15 12:57:56 k May 15 12:58:03 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r83195d46... 10/packages/pango/ (pango_1.8.2.bb pango_1.9.1.bb): pango: recommend modules needed for basic operation for 1.8.2 and 1.9.1 May 15 12:58:09 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra3de2e31... 10/packages/gtk+/gtk+_2.8.9.bb: gtk2 2.8.9: really RRECOMMENDS gdk-pixbux loaders - close #990 May 15 12:58:24 I have new project to design and have to create new database layout May 15 13:01:27 sounds fun :) May 15 13:04:02 and want to do this not on sheet of paper May 15 13:04:22 paper is awesome May 15 13:05:19 e-paper May 15 13:05:32 hrw|work: paper is still the best May 15 13:05:36 e-paper is not as awesome. May 15 13:05:42 zecke: yep May 15 13:05:50 hey njs May 15 13:05:54 koen: heya May 15 13:06:14 hrw|work: I'm not sure what exactly you'd like me to do about debian :-) May 15 13:07:04 hrw|work: you can always just drop http://venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone-0.25.2-linux-x86.bz2 in your path somewhere... (if you're on x86) May 15 13:07:16 njs: ignore that lart - I put 0.25x on hold May 15 13:07:46 ah, works too. May 15 13:08:20 0.27 is way late, but I am way busy with school :-( May 15 13:08:32 njs: when is it due? May 15 13:09:22 zecke: 0.26 release date + 1 month May 15 13:09:29 i.e. a week ago :-) May 15 13:22:00 koen: we should be able to help guido with a brooks rfid driver; he says he has a card coming May 15 13:29:27 is there a kind of "bitbake search" and "bitbake --pretend" please ? i haven't seen any of them in the manual May 15 13:32:43 tnb: yeah, he's waiting for it to arrive May 15 13:37:21 theturtle: which it has to do? May 15 13:39:40 theturtle: what is pretend? May 15 13:39:51 theturtle: pretend should be described in the manual May 15 13:40:04 theturtle: search is like listing all providers and then using | grep May 15 13:40:22 $ bitbake --pretend May 15 13:40:23 make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. May 15 13:40:38 hey zecke May 15 13:42:57 --dry-run May 15 13:42:58 <_guillermo> theturtle: coming from gentoo I guess :) May 15 13:43:59 _guillermo : sure ;) May 15 13:44:26 ok thanks guys May 15 13:45:02 i wanted an option such as bitbake --thisoption shows me the dependance tree of things to merge May 15 13:45:53 'merge', no we don't have that May 15 13:46:05 the closest is bitbake -vvv -n foo May 15 13:46:35 thanks zecke May 15 13:49:04 <_guillermo> I find bitbake options a little bit cryptic. It's not a critic but it's deninitely not as intuitive as equery in gentoo May 15 13:49:40 _guillermo: what is cryptic? May 15 13:49:54 --dry-run -> "don't execute, just go through the motions" May 15 13:50:25 I'm all for improving things, but for the options I wouldn't know where to start May 15 13:51:22 i think that taking inspiration from gentoo's emerge and equery should be a good start May 15 13:51:40 it's really intuitive and does (almost) exactly the same as bitbake May 15 13:52:13 theturtle: bugs.openembedded.org and file a issue describing which options are not obvious or where the help is misleading May 15 13:52:25 ok :) May 15 13:52:46 theturtle: "It is bad, look there it is better" is not helping to improve anything May 15 13:52:48 theturtle: not everyone here use gentoo so you need to give more details ;) May 15 13:53:01 theturtle: "What is bad" is the question that needs to be answered May 15 13:54:13 i'll try to make a sort of "what it should be" if you find it's helpful May 15 13:54:39 on a option per option basis... May 15 13:54:51 and explain why an explanation of bitbake --help is misleading May 15 13:55:01 it is good work, but like everything it could be better, it's not a critic about your work :) May 15 13:55:45 theturtle: I'm an engineer, to change something one needs to have an understanding on what is wrong May 15 13:55:56 I don't have it ATM, so input is welcome May 15 13:55:59 theturtle: by that token, even theturtle could be better. theturtle could use some improvement. May 15 13:56:32 raduga : it's trivial May 15 13:56:43 theturtle is trivial? May 15 13:56:46 zecke : ok, i'll try to make something helpful for you May 15 13:57:01 your sentence is trivial May 15 13:58:01 ./bits/endian.h:13:2: #error Machine byte order unknown. May 15 13:58:12 glibc-initial-2.3.2+cvs20040726-r17 May 15 13:58:37 doesn't work with MACHINE=x86 and DISTRO=generic or DISTRO=familiar-unstable... :( May 15 13:58:54 didn't we talk about that this morning? May 15 13:59:13 your glibc sources are, apparently, still broken May 15 14:01:02 i don't understand what PREFERRED_PROVIDERS refers to, could someone explain me a bit on which base i have to make a choice ? May 15 14:01:58 (in local.conf) May 15 14:02:09 theturtle: you want kernel "linux-umbaumba" so you set PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = "linux-umbaumba" and all stuff which depend on virtual/kernel will depend on linux-umbaumba May 15 14:02:53 ok, thanks May 15 14:02:56 <_guillermo> http://pastebin.com/718721 for people curious about equery May 15 14:03:27 pb__: yes we talked about, you just said i should compile with DISTRO=generic, or did i missed something? May 15 14:03:35 so, PREFERRED_PROVIDERS += " virtual/libsdl:libsdl-qpe" is wrong if i plan to build for an X11 install ? May 15 14:03:40 theturtle: is the manual not obvious? May 15 14:03:51 pb__: how can i fix my glibc-sources? they are just fetched from oe? May 15 14:04:11 cya later May 15 14:04:31 theturtle: yep - set it to libsdl-x11 May 15 14:06:40 ok, thanks hrw|work :) May 15 14:25:49 hail mickeyl May 15 14:26:02 Terminar: you probably need to find a tarball with an intact checkout, or adjust the CVSDATE to a newer one May 15 14:26:25 hey pb_ May 15 14:27:18 hi mickeyl May 15 14:28:17 pb__: is this maybe done in some local.conf lying aroung the wiki? i am new to the oe+bitbake stuff May 15 14:29:13 no; I think you'll probably have to edit the .bb file. May 15 14:29:34 or, if you can find a tarball, just drop it into your DL_DIR and touch the .md5 file. May 15 14:33:49 isn't there just a glibc version in the tree which seems to work? can i select some? there are others, not only the 2.3.2 May 15 14:36:44 there are plenty of other glibc versions that work, but maybe not any glibc-intermediates. May 15 14:40:41 ah, means that the glibc-intermiate-2.3.2+cvs just uses cvs every time, the latest cvs version? which is maybe broken? May 15 14:42:20 no, it uses an old (fixed) date for the checkout. unfortunately, because the glibc cvs repository was rearranged a few months ago, checkouts from dates before that point are broken. May 15 14:43:04 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9a869de7... 10/packages/libsdl/ (libsdl-qpe_1.2.7.bb libsdl-x11_1.2.7.bb): libsdl-qpe|x11 1.2.7 fix make it build (also) against qte-mt May 15 14:43:09 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r701e498c... 10/packages/pipepanic/pipepanic_0.1.1.bb: add pipepanic, a neat SDL pipe game May 15 14:43:13 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra2b205e7... 10/packages/meta/task-qpe.bb: task-qpe: add pipepanic to qpe-games May 15 14:44:21 thx mickeyl - will add it to .oz354x May 15 14:44:28 hrw|work: cool :) May 15 14:45:09 pb__: hm, k May 15 14:48:07 mickeyl: how about adding a recipe for libsdl-qpe 1.2.9? May 15 14:48:25 mickeyl: uqm 0.5.0 requires >=12. May 15 14:48:37 1.2.8, but I can't add it without breaking shlibs for the qpe one... May 15 14:49:04 mickeyl: NOTE: package pipepanic-0.1.1-r0: task do_build: completed May 15 14:49:08 koen: no way. May 15 14:49:32 koen: it took me a whole week to catch up with libsdl 1.2.7. i have no time to redo all the complicated patches again :/ May 15 14:49:43 that's what I thought May 15 14:50:49 guys: did you tried libxine 1.1 at all? May 15 14:51:55 koen: we can add 129 but it will be x11 only May 15 14:52:02 koen: i don't see any sense to do that much of work for qte May 15 14:55:15 gcc34.patch does not apply to 1.2.9 May 15 14:55:44 Patch kill-stdc++.patch does not apply (enforce with -f) May 15 14:55:47 perhaps it's not necessary anymore? May 15 14:55:58 ipaq one May 15 14:56:09 but ipaq one only on Makefile.am May 15 14:56:22 akita one does not May 15 14:56:37 and fixlibs one May 15 14:56:46 17:08 hrw@work:SDL-1.2.9$ quilt applied May 15 14:56:46 agawa-piro-mickey.patch May 15 14:56:46 pygame.patch May 15 14:56:46 mouse.patch May 15 14:56:57 hmm, not bad May 15 14:57:07 most important ones apply May 15 14:57:38 btw. May 15 14:57:41 http://www.inf.ufsc.br/~alebm/ezx/ May 15 14:57:49 ~lart people not caring about upstream or even us May 15 14:57:49 * ibot blasts people not caring about upstream or even us to oblivion with a kamehameha wave May 15 14:58:19 kamehameha? May 15 14:58:40 CosmicPenguin: dragon ball Z reference May 15 14:58:48 I see May 15 14:58:52 I assume thats bad, then? May 15 15:04:05 CosmicPenguin: Kamehameha, also known as Kamehameha I and Kamehameha the Great (circa 1758 ? 1819), unified the Hawaiian Islands in battle and formally established the Kingdom of Hawai?i in 1810. May 15 15:04:09 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamehameha_I May 15 15:04:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8c325329... 10/packages/libsdl/libsdl-x11_1.2.9.bb: (log message trimmed) May 15 15:04:59 libsdl-x11: add 1.2.9 May 15 15:04:59 17:00 < koen> mickeyl: how about adding a recipe for libsdl-qpe 1.2.9? May 15 15:04:59 17:00 < koen> mickeyl: uqm 0.5.0 requires >= 1.2.8, but I can't add it without breaking shlibs for the qpe one... May 15 15:04:59 17:01 < mickeyl> koen: no way. May 15 15:05:00 17:01 < mickeyl> koen: it took me a whole week to catch up with libsdl 1.2.7. i have no time to May 15 15:05:04 redo all the complicated patches again :/ May 15 15:05:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r599c09d6... 10/packages/uqm/uqm_0.5.0.bb: uqm: update to 0.5.0 May 15 15:05:32 cu May 15 15:05:36 cu hrw May 15 15:06:31 mickeyl: did yo get your phone yet? May 15 15:06:33 * koen runs May 15 15:06:43 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r5362008c... 10/packages/pipepanic/pipepanic_0.1.1.bb: pipepanic: added 0.1.1 May 15 15:06:50 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8419d0bd... 10/packages/gxine/gxine_0.4.1enhanced.bb: gxine: disable lirc May 15 15:06:54 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r9083ffaa... 10/packages/zkbdd/zkbdd_0.2.bb: zkbdd: added 0.2 May 15 15:08:07 * mickeyl throws a stone in the direction of koen May 15 15:11:15 my replacement TOMTOM is underway May 15 15:11:30 as well May 15 15:11:33 mickeyl: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/pda/images/maemo-mapper-works.png May 15 15:11:41 * koen runs further May 15 15:12:22 heh May 15 15:12:24 that looks cool May 15 15:12:41 if only maemo would be a bit more resizable... May 15 15:13:32 btw., what was the reason to put the OE documentation into a dedicated branch? May 15 15:13:44 mickeyl: it is long-living May 15 15:13:49 access control? May 15 15:13:53 mickeyl: longer than .dev or .oz354 May 15 15:14:11 i se May 15 15:14:12 e May 15 15:14:33 that was my reasoning May 15 15:15:29 i've build libmatchbox & matchbox for gentoo , and i would lauch it on x86 / xorg , how to do ? May 15 15:15:59 mickeyl: you can put your book in that branch as well :) May 15 15:16:22 any matchboxers around ? May 15 15:16:52 maybe #matchbox? May 15 15:17:34 koen: we'll see ;) May 15 15:17:38 i have to clear that with the publisher May 15 15:18:43 mickeyl: you have talked to a publisher already? May 15 15:19:02 mickeyl: I think you have to join the KDAB mafia May 15 15:19:28 zecke: no. as you can probably imagine i have other tasks to do before I have a clear mind to actually think about the OE book :) May 15 15:20:01 zecke: heh. why that? :) May 15 15:20:05 (kdab) May 15 15:20:25 mickeyl: I think you can now do Linux stuff without clearance from KDAB :} May 15 15:23:25 excellent May 15 15:23:32 i didn't plan to consult them May 15 15:26:44 now/not... May 15 15:26:52 isn't he working on a embedded linux book? May 15 15:28:49 koen, : there is no support for matchbox :/ May 15 15:29:02 zecke: zautrix? May 15 15:29:08 perharps on GPE :) May 15 15:31:09 mickeyl: his boss May 15 15:34:43 zecke: hmm... i think the market is big enough for two embedded linux books. especially, when one is concentrating on build systems and GUI environments. May 15 15:58:00 a+ May 15 16:10:37 hey May 15 16:29:29 err, forgot the bitbake syntax for world (where it continues even if a packet fails) May 15 16:29:31 bitbake -r world? May 15 16:29:58 how about bitbake -h? May 15 16:29:59 :) May 15 16:30:27 :P May 15 16:30:30 since we all are KDE fans, it's -k for -KONTINUE May 15 16:30:31 heh May 15 16:30:36 haha May 15 16:30:45 thx man May 15 16:30:48 p May 15 16:30:49 feeling abit slow today May 15 16:30:49 np May 15 16:48:40 re May 15 16:49:47 zecke: wb May 15 16:51:43 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/missing_sources.20060515 May 15 16:51:55 RP: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/missing_sources.20060515 <- might find someone to fix the matchbox bits May 15 16:54:40 zecke: could you filter out the ones that passed the test? May 15 16:57:26 I search for False May 15 16:57:34 there is plenty to change in bittest May 15 16:57:41 like http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/missed May 15 16:58:50 koen: can't you sort it by URL ;) May 15 16:58:53 heh May 15 16:58:54 Test Comment:MD5 Error ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/pub/qt/source/qt-embedded-2.3.10 May 15 16:59:05 did the nasty trolls mess with the source? May 15 16:59:14 koen: no May 15 16:59:19 koen: I messed with it :} May 15 16:59:56 zecke: it looks like your sf mirror is broken May 15 17:00:56 zecke: 252 lines are about belnet May 15 17:01:00 yes May 15 17:01:07 koen: what is the best one for ewi? May 15 17:01:14 and GIT_DIR is missing as well May 15 17:01:18 heanet is pretty fast May 15 17:02:22 * chouimat is back. May 15 17:17:09 RP: could we make the git parser more sexy? May 15 18:03:15 evening May 15 18:04:34 reenoo: May 15 18:05:35 hey zecke May 15 18:08:47 anyone played with Xephyr? May 15 18:08:55 how can I make it have a different keymap? May 15 18:23:47 I am working on a project using OE where I will want to push only selected changes into the main OE repo. May 15 18:24:02 is patch file the best way to do this, or is there some monotone way? May 15 18:25:44 seems propagate will push everything. This is mainly an academic excercise, but I'm just curious how others are doing this? May 15 18:26:42 cbrake: patches :( May 15 18:27:12 zecke: ok, that works May 15 18:28:06 hi, i would appreciate your help very much, i need a nand backup image for my pxa255 driven poodle, please could someone be so kind to do a nand backup and send it pm or upload somewhere? May 15 18:28:52 sws: do you get me a poodle ;) May 15 18:28:59 nand image of what? May 15 18:29:14 zecke: I was thinking of setting up a second database, but you probably can't/shouldn't commit a changeset to a database you did not checkout/update from. May 15 18:29:28 angstroem, microsuse, lfs? May 15 18:29:56 cbrake: you can, if your run netsync on one of the databases May 15 18:30:04 cbrake: but the epochs should match :} May 15 18:30:09 zecke: :) May 15 18:30:11 woglinde: SuSE can't evens etup mailmain May 15 18:30:54 hi andersee May 15 18:33:56 cbrake: BTW do you know BB Collections May 15 18:35:58 zecke: ?? May 15 18:36:44 cbrake: what worked good for me is a directory layout like this May 15 18:36:53 cbrake: openembedded, openembedded.modified and isv May 15 18:37:18 cbrake: in isv you will place all packages that are only for you May 15 18:37:34 cbrake: and everytime you need to 'fork' an OpenEmbedded thing copy it to openembedded.modified May 15 18:37:45 cbrake: using BB Collections you can continue to issue bitbake foo May 15 18:37:51 cbrake: and the right file will be used May 15 18:39:16 woglinde: one good thing about looking that ugly (me), one can easily get a X or gcc hacker May 15 18:39:54 woglinde: I think I have a topic for my Diploma Thesis May 15 18:40:02 zecke hm so what is better gcc-hacker or Xorg hacker May 15 18:40:21 woglinde: adding profile based functional static analysis to gcc May 15 18:40:32 woglinde: writing static analysis profiles in prolog or haskell :} May 15 18:40:39 zecke: ahh, very nice. So this would allow you to easily keep isv and openembedded.modified in a separate SCM May 15 18:40:44 zecke I thought you will do some technical stuff May 15 18:40:53 not software engeenirng May 15 18:41:09 woglinde: not as thesis, I have promised Dr. Prechelt to visit him May 15 18:41:26 cbrake: good point, take crossed my mind as well following this. So the BB path would have openembedded.modified / isv first? May 15 18:41:45 cbrake: yes, and one can more easily upgrade :} May 15 18:41:53 likewise: you can define priorities May 15 18:42:17 http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html#id2522780 May 15 18:42:57 * likewise is not worthy. Hail BB. May 15 18:43:19 zecke: very good -- thx for the ideas. May 15 18:43:46 ~hail bb May 15 18:43:48 * ibot bows down to bb and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" May 15 18:44:50 france: hey :) May 15 18:44:59 france: wb, I don't want to pester you but... May 15 18:45:11 zecke: hi May 15 18:45:18 zecke: pester away. :-D May 15 18:45:23 france: hi! May 15 18:45:33 france: I hope you survived Los Angeles May 15 18:45:51 france: could you consider adding koen to proj_oe please May 15 18:46:05 france: and proj_linux as note all websites are in the wiki (AFAIK) May 15 18:46:21 zecke: I did! I am getting too old for 18 to 20 hour days.... May 15 18:46:44 hey france May 15 18:46:50 reenoo: hello! May 15 18:47:20 france: and reactivate his account May 15 18:52:02 pb_: ping May 15 18:52:25 I'm Phil respect my authority May 15 18:52:33 identity crisis May 15 18:52:34 lol May 15 18:52:36 lol May 15 18:52:42 I fully agree with what zecke said... May 15 18:52:46 me too May 15 18:52:49 I knew it May 15 18:56:57 mickeyl: my cousin started programming with sockets in python May 15 18:57:18 zecke: sent e-mail to get verification on adding him to the project. May 15 18:57:52 anyone know the -march + -mtune settings for arm922 offhand? May 15 18:58:17 mickeyl: for which gcc version? May 15 18:59:18 3 and 4 May 15 18:59:33 minor numbers? May 15 18:59:37 hmm May 15 18:59:40 what we have in OE ) May 15 18:59:41 :) May 15 18:59:44 4.0.2 May 15 18:59:45 3.4.4 May 15 18:59:53 mickeyl: I don't know it off hand, but it changed between minor numbers May 15 18:59:57 oh May 15 18:59:58 k May 15 18:59:59 * mickeyl googles May 15 19:07:08 wtf May 15 19:10:08 mickeyl: http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/ARM-Options.html and http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.0.2/gcc/ARM-Options.html May 15 19:10:50 ah cool May 15 19:10:53 thanks koen May 15 19:11:05 ibot: gcc-arm-options is http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.4.4/gcc/ARM-Options.html and http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-4.0.2/gcc/ARM-Options.html May 15 19:11:06 okay, mickeyl May 15 19:12:59 mickeyl: as you might see, 3.4.4 doesn't know about arm922t May 15 19:13:25 yeah. bummer May 15 19:13:27 no optimization May 15 19:13:44 I suspect you can use arm920t May 15 19:13:50 yep May 15 19:13:54 i will try with that first May 15 19:14:07 for which machine is that? May 15 19:14:13 I thought the moto was pxa270 May 15 19:14:15 KS8695P May 15 19:14:20 * mickeyl throws another stone May 15 19:14:26 my supplier called today May 15 19:14:35 koen: do you have an ipk for the mplayer for the 4700? May 15 19:14:39 they have problems May 15 19:14:48 MOTO no longer produces that May 15 19:14:56 so they try to get it from another supplier May 15 19:14:57 *sigh* May 15 19:15:19 tnb: not at the moment, but it should be in the familiar feeds May 15 19:15:19 mickeyl uh May 15 19:15:39 the thing i'm playing with is my old PePLink MANGA Triple Plus board (Micrel KS8695 based) May 15 19:16:00 koen: ok, thought maybe had to do something special to get it working May 15 19:16:06 on the 4700 May 15 19:16:26 tnb is there no xine package? May 15 19:16:49 tnb: I sent guido a custom mplayer.conf May 15 19:17:12 tnb: with ac=mad fs=true framedrop=true May 15 19:17:22 koen: ah, cool, thanks May 15 19:17:29 which seems to be fast enough for his purposes May 15 19:18:21 ~lart Xephyr May 15 19:18:22 * ibot eats Xephyr's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti May 15 19:18:53 heh May 15 19:18:55 "The ARM922T is identical to the ARM920T but has 8K/8K caches while the ARM920T has 16K/16K caches." May 15 19:19:54 koen: ah cool. thanks May 15 19:20:01 * mickeyl tune-arm920t May 15 19:21:01 with that amount of cache thumb starts to make sense May 15 19:21:04 and -Os May 15 19:26:26 ya May 15 19:36:09 mickeyl: https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/sfmain/do/home May 15 19:36:36 ah. finally that site is up May 15 19:36:51 * koen spots 'Martin Guy' on that site May 15 19:37:00 * mickeyl chuckles May 15 19:37:50 Who is Martin Guy? May 15 19:38:43 Crofton: the guy who is paid to make eabi work for debian May 15 19:38:56 ah May 15 19:39:17 koen: What is the name of the eabi port? May 15 19:39:27 zecke: armel iirc May 15 19:39:46 and armeb is for big endian? May 15 19:40:13 pb_: my cpp hack is working :) May 15 19:40:21 zecke: for bigendian, old abi May 15 19:40:38 koen: that makes sense, i like it May 15 19:40:42 zecke: rock May 15 19:40:42 :) May 15 19:40:56 pb_: I'm scared to enable it by default May 15 19:41:30 zecke: it sounds safe enough to me. I guess you should go for it. May 15 19:42:01 pb_: I'm currently using abort() when I see /usr/inc /sw/include or /opt/inc May 15 19:42:13 pb_: I'm scared I will break gpe and x ;) May 15 19:42:29 heh May 15 19:42:42 mail me your patch and I'll have a go at building gpe with it May 15 19:42:58 pb_: which gcc version are you using? May 15 19:43:07 3.4.4 I think May 15 19:43:08 pb_: I have applied the patch to gcc-3.4.4 and gcc4.x.x May 15 19:43:11 ah good May 15 19:45:21 hh.org/~zecke/zecke-no-host-includes.patch May 15 19:45:25 and it is a hack :} May 15 19:46:47 cool May 15 19:46:55 I'll give it a spin shortly May 15 19:47:09 -isystem looks to work as well May 15 19:47:16 now I would like to have a -lsystem May 15 19:53:49 d'oh May 15 19:54:00 * mickeyl measuring standbye time of his CE devices May 15 19:54:02 nah May 15 19:54:07 power drain May 15 19:54:09 not standby time May 15 19:55:57 4.3W for the dvd recorder sounds too much :/ May 15 19:57:17 * chouimat is away: something cool on tv May 15 19:58:26 hey May 15 19:58:56 Finally done with the bitbake -k world, :) alot of broken things though, got around of 390MB packages that compiled nicely May 15 20:02:03 390mb? May 15 20:02:49 yeah May 15 20:03:04 that is not much :≠ May 15 20:03:22 I know, im guessing that are some depends in there that blocks the "upper" packages May 15 20:03:33 Going to make a big list now on what compiles and what doesnt May 15 20:03:38 And start from there May 15 20:07:07 zecke: whats the best way to see what doesnt compile? do another bitbake -k world and log it into a file, clean out the working "work" folders,..... any suggestions? May 15 20:08:14 KenJlime: do you want to learn some more about OE? May 15 20:08:29 zecke: always May 15 20:08:42 KenJlime: you could write a bbclass that install an event handler May 15 20:08:55 you then could 'capture' TaskFailed/PkgFailed events May 15 20:09:01 and log that to a file May 15 20:09:12 kewl May 15 20:09:12 and automatically copy the 'log' to another place May 15 20:09:26 KenJlime: but more easy is letting it run again :) May 15 20:10:22 yeah, but I really like the idea. It would be easy to compair different archs against each other, number of successfull builds, diffs on what builds and so on May 15 20:10:50 can you hack perl? ;) May 15 20:11:42 im currently truly worthless at perl, but Im always willing to learn May 15 20:12:02 same applies here May 15 20:12:12 I need to put the tinderbox on steroids May 15 20:12:18 Gonna look around for some info about this May 15 20:14:47 KenJlime: look ad base.bbclass, sanity.bbclass and tinderclient.bbclass May 15 20:14:55 they all use add handler to register the handler May 15 20:15:29 aha oki, thx will do May 15 20:16:22 woglinde: howdy (much delayed) May 15 20:22:08 gosh wink will go out of memory... again May 15 20:54:19 zecke: when doing a bbclass and trying it out, do I need to include inherit to every file? May 15 20:54:28 or can I make it tag along on some other bbclass? May 15 20:54:28 INHERIT += "" May 15 20:54:31 in local.conf May 15 20:54:38 this will be inherited by all .bb files May 15 20:54:40 ah thx May 15 21:05:47 I hate wink :} May 15 21:08:19 pb_: tried the patch? May 15 21:09:07 zecke: trying it now May 15 21:09:13 so far so good May 15 21:10:43 hmm May 15 21:10:51 should I push the reset button :} May 15 21:12:19 * zecke feels lucky to not have used reiser on his disk May 15 21:14:00 zecke: why's that? May 15 21:14:44 JustinP: reiserfs? May 15 21:14:54 JustinP: just the regular bashing, I like Hans Reiser though May 15 21:15:19 Any S.M.A.R.T guy around? May 15 21:21:06 * JustinP ses reiser May 15 21:21:09 +u May 15 21:22:32 JustinP: I find it an interesting filesystem May 15 21:22:51 jfs is actualy really fast May 15 21:23:37 reiser has been good to me thus far May 15 21:23:47 never tried XFS or JFS May 15 21:24:00 and I only use ext3 on my Z May 15 21:24:02 ;-) May 15 21:24:17 i use jfs on my sparc, and xfs on my alpha, both treat me well May 15 21:25:10 the boomer is, when you have to repair a reiserfs May 15 21:25:17 or it oopses the kernel May 15 21:25:28 never had an oops May 15 21:25:36 then again, I've never moved on to the newer versions May 15 21:25:46 stuck with the stable one May 15 21:25:54 hehe... reiserfsck is equivalent to "rm -rf" in my experience May 15 21:25:58 yeah *g* i copied the reiserfs partion to ext3 May 15 21:26:07 reiser3 seems fairly stable May 15 21:26:36 i;ve never used it but i know a few people that do, and they never seem to complain May 15 21:26:39 yeah, I've been using reiser3 for some time May 15 21:26:57 and it has always come back up and not needed an fsck after power outages and such May 15 21:27:48 well, if you don't want any problems with power-outages on ext3, don't mount it async May 15 21:28:08 JustinP: yah, the problematic case is when the underlying block device has issues. reiserfs doesn't handle that well or rather tries to work around it and messes up May 15 21:28:15 but then your system slows down quite a bit because a lot of processor time is allocated to writing the disk instead of using idle time May 15 21:29:16 JustinP: in the same case XFS just reports errors, shuts itself down instead of corrupting more data, and provides excellent tools for recovery May 15 21:31:44 JustinP: packages/e17/e-modules_20060128.bb failed fetching, can this be? May 15 21:31:55 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/src/lib/libXscrnSaver-X11R7.0-1.0.1.tar.bz2 May 15 21:32:29 zecke: libXscrnSaver? that doesn't sound like e-modules to me... May 15 21:32:39 JustinP: two different errors May 15 21:32:57 I don't think e-utils and e-modules have been compiling lately BTW....haven't tried them in a while May 15 21:33:44 koen: XScrnSaver -> XscrnSaver May 15 21:33:52 other way around :} May 15 21:33:57 f^-1() May 15 21:34:40 JustinP: http://enlightenment.freedesktop.org/files/etox-0.9.0.004.tar.gz is missing as well May 15 21:38:15 any norwegians here? May 15 21:38:48 likewise: goxboxlive has .no in his url May 15 21:38:59 likewise: and ljp works for a Norwegian company May 15 21:39:24 likewise: I'm norwegian May 15 21:39:39 goxboxlive: if you want to, you can feed htc to me May 15 21:39:43 goxboxlive: or into the bug tracker May 15 21:41:04 zecke: Yes it's allmost ready, but we have to fix some bugs. The images i make with OE are realy slow compare to the BA one, dont know why, but have to figure it out first . May 15 21:41:44 zecke: I am a S.M.A.R.T. guy (smartmontools maintainer) May 15 21:42:10 likewise thats good to know May 15 21:42:19 goxboxlive: BA? May 15 21:42:20 why? May 15 21:42:40 likewise: http://oe.pastebin.com/719553 <- did you ever see such errors? May 15 21:44:42 Zecke: Blueangel May 15 21:45:10 pb_: still compiling? May 15 21:45:29 zecke: good chance you are building bad sectors. run a long self test (takes 70 minutes or so, will not damage any data) smartmontools -t long May 15 21:46:33 72 May 15 21:47:05 zecke: yeah, probably won't have any results until tomorrow May 15 21:47:23 zecke: make sure you write down the two LBA numbers! May 15 21:48:01 likewise: Im swedish, close enough :) ? May 15 21:48:18 too late :-) May 15 21:48:29 likewise: for a bad block scan? May 15 21:48:39 likewise: I will make sure windows xp gets these blocks :} May 15 21:49:29 zecke: before a badblocks scan, I always go see first if the LBA is covered by a file (you need your filesystem tools for this, some fs have better tools than others) May 15 21:51:08 hi May 15 21:52:19 hey May 15 21:52:58 I'm trying to setup OE to build from oz354x and I'm getting a ton of "EOL while scanning single-quoted string (line 1)" while bitbake is parsing .bb's May 15 21:53:11 did I miss something obvious and I should RTFM again? May 15 21:53:34 hmm it might be that your bitbake is too new, better check on #oe May 15 21:53:37 nm May 15 21:53:39 =) May 15 21:55:38 johnX: latest 1.4 SVN works fine for me May 15 21:55:43 ok May 15 21:55:57 I'm using the most up to date since I was working with .dev before May 15 21:56:48 johnX: wrong DISTRO entry? May 15 21:56:51 johnX: is your copy of oz354x up to date? May 15 21:58:01 johnX: you need that base.bbclass hack to work around issues introduced by the RDEPENDS handling in more recent versions of bitbake May 15 21:59:52 DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4.1" and monotone claims I'm up to date May 15 22:00:14 reenoo: Is there some info about that hack somewhere I could read? May 15 22:01:10 johnX: weird, I have just downloaded bitbake+OE May 15 22:01:18 johnX: and I have not seen these errors May 15 22:01:27 maybe I have some issues with my local config May 15 22:01:59 johnX: hmm, ok. must be something else then May 15 22:03:21 FWIW I was seeing the same thing when I tried bb svn w/ .oz354x the last time May 15 22:04:05 (so I downgraded BB to a known-good revision) May 15 22:06:09 CoreDump|home: and then OZ was updated ;) May 15 22:06:36 possibly =) I'm still running the ancient version hehe May 15 22:07:39 hmm what was the trick to run gpe in non-deamon mode again? May 15 22:07:44 --no-deamon? May 15 22:08:20 johnX: stable branch, not trunk? May 15 22:08:35 s/gpe/qpe May 15 22:08:36 gpe? May 15 22:08:41 -no-daemon May 15 22:08:48 JustinP: this is what I ran "svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/bitbake/branches/bitbake-1.4 bitbake" May 15 22:08:50 thanks! May 15 22:09:08 I also tried 1.4.2 from the bitbake project page May 15 22:09:30 johnX: no issue with BitBake, check your config May 15 22:09:34 ok May 15 22:09:39 johnX: or update your working copy :) May 15 22:09:43 it worked here(tm) May 15 22:09:58 heh May 15 22:11:00 ~lart wink May 15 22:11:01 the damn thing keeps starting in daemon-mode May 15 22:11:01 * ibot stabs wink May 15 22:11:02 anyway noite May 15 22:11:08 -nodaemon May 15 22:11:38 thats it May 15 22:18:45 quick off subject regex question - how would one match *.php except test.php May 15 22:22:47 hmm...it's only complaing about packages that have have ${CVSDATE} in them May 15 22:24:03 TheMasterMind1: I don't know. But why not just put 1 more clause in your if? May 15 22:24:35 johnX: CVSDATE is no longer supposed to be used...it's supposed to be SRCDATE May 15 22:24:43 that would indeed the easiest way May 15 22:24:56 johnX: you sure you're pulling oz354x? May 15 22:25:07 I thought I was May 15 22:25:11 JustinP: that's not true. the branches still use CVSDATE May 15 22:25:59 reenoo: oh....I thought it had been changed May 15 22:26:02 johnX: nm, then May 15 22:27:39 I exported CVSDATE in bash before calling bitbake and all the errors disappeared. Should I just set it someplace, or is this indicicative of a config problem on my side? May 15 22:28:47 hi all May 15 22:30:09 johnX: are you setting CVSDATE in your local.conf? May 15 22:30:26 I'm not setting it in local.conf May 15 22:30:30 I didn't know I was supposed to May 15 22:30:49 johnX: it is normally set in DISTRO.conf May 15 22:30:52 Is there any document describing the variables OE sets for build? e.g. host and target compiler May 15 22:31:21 florian: check work/${PN}/tmp/run.do_compile May 15 22:32:03 johnX: OIAW: check that your DISTRO setting is indeed correct ;) May 15 22:32:49 CoreDump|home: ok, that makes sense. It's set in openzaurus-3.5.4.conf but not openzaurus-3.5.4.1 May 15 22:32:53 johnX: you're not necessarily supposed to... May 15 22:32:59 CoreDump|home: hmm... good idea, thanks May 15 22:33:14 johnX: IIRC 3.5.4 is sourced by 3.5.4.1 May 15 22:33:21 hmm May 15 22:35:18 include conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.conf May 15 22:35:20 yep, it is May 15 22:36:00 DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4.1" works fine here May 15 22:37:58 johnX: what is your DISTRO set to? May 15 22:38:43 maybe your shell env points to another "conf" dir? May 15 22:39:49 zecke: yay! sticky keys work May 15 22:40:20 * JustinP just uses dried jelly May 15 22:40:32 CoreDump|home: you win. :D May 15 22:40:40 heh May 15 22:40:50 I had a script that I sourced before building and it set BBPATH May 15 22:41:08 Any python guru in here? May 15 22:41:15 johnX: =) May 15 22:41:39 thanks...and now I'll leave it to build some things while I get to class May 15 22:41:57 thank you all again for the help. :) May 15 22:43:16 zecke, your sources report choked on omniorb/events May 15 22:43:33 but I am wondering if it isn't a sf mirror issue? May 15 22:48:52 bit off May 15 22:48:54 odd May 15 22:48:55 | install -m 755 -s qemu-img "/home/papercrane/oe/oz354.build/tmp/staging/i686-linux/bin" May 15 22:48:58 | install: cannot run strip: Permission denied May 15 22:51:28 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams May 15 23:41:54 goodnite all, europe is going to sleep (well, I am...) May 16 00:45:21 wow the qemuarm thing looks really cool! May 16 01:06:09 * emte likes short shorts ... and zecke too May 16 01:06:44 speaking of which ... zecke did you ever get through the compile for bug 747? May 16 01:07:08 i'll update all my junk tonight and start a compile if you havent May 16 01:07:18 since its sitting idle and stale anyway May 16 02:02:39 blech, May 16 02:03:14 i categorized and searched about 1/3rd of the list May 16 02:54:32 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r0ef114af... 10/packages/efl/etox_0.9.0.004.bb: etox: drop deprecated package May 16 02:54:37 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r6d8d685f... 10/packages/efl/ewl_0.0.4.007.bb: etox: drop deprecated package May 16 02:58:20 * emte is guessing JustinP saw my notes? May 16 03:03:15 an, is that you? May 16 03:03:17 yeah May 16 03:03:22 working on the various things May 16 03:03:35 etox wasnts depended on by anything, so I got rid of it May 16 03:04:25 yeah i expected as much for that one May 16 03:04:33 the m4 errors are strange May 16 03:04:39 brb food May 16 03:08:33 yeah....*those*....darn m4 dirs aren't in the tarballs May 16 03:19:27 why not just patch em in? May 16 03:19:40 not like they will change any time soon May 16 03:20:38 altho i "think" they started to update the autotools stuff so you may not need em soon May 16 03:21:04 fun May 16 03:22:03 lol May 16 03:22:36 * emte wonders what peopel think ... May 16 03:40:09 * emte now wonders if i should have sent yet another email to the list ... May 16 03:40:36 one day i vow to write that "trash my stupid emails to the list" function for myself May 16 03:41:04 emte: I'd say it's appropriate May 16 03:41:22 i tend to get a bit carried away May 16 03:41:33 emte: Maybe get a concise version posted as one of the MotDs on bugzilla? May 16 03:42:00 that would mean someoen would have to read it :P May 16 03:42:06 emte: Yeah, good point. May 16 03:42:10 lol May 16 03:42:28 myself i thought it was just common sense May 16 03:42:37 My level of trust in the ability for people to read before bitching can be measured in femtoseconds. May 16 03:43:19 since OE is about hardware and buildsystem not software maintainance (mostly) May 16 03:43:39 Yep May 16 03:44:11 Although it'd be nice if package metadata contained a URL to the appropriate bugtracker if known.. but that's a debate for another day. May 16 03:44:32 not sure if that is useful May 16 03:44:45 would stale and desync quickly i'd think May 16 03:44:55 True May 16 03:45:34 a buglist parser in the bitbake/oe ide ( if one ever gets made) would be useful tho May 16 03:45:58 setup to auto match packages your building May 16 03:46:50 Yep May 16 03:46:56 but you should be able to get the same info from the repo package history May 16 03:47:19 wich you have cached locally May 16 03:47:44 all depends what you want to match i guess May 16 03:47:50 Yeah, true May 16 03:48:12 anyway i am off to figure out how the hell to use Euler's rule in Fourier May 16 03:48:36 i want to shoot the guy who wrote my book on this May 16 03:49:08 Have fun May 16 04:19:41 sigh, I was building angstrom bootstrap-image and at the very last step, in do_rootfs, it looks like ipkg-cl segfaulted May 16 04:35:10 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r60f54cec... 10/packages/e17/e-modules_20060128.bb: e-modules: drop, this is part of e-wm now May 16 04:35:14 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rba16b6be... 10/packages/e17/e-modules_20060128.bb: e-modules: drop, this is part of e-wm now May 16 06:18:24 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r4e0aa65d... 10/packages/efl/ (8 files in 2 dirs): efl: fix SRC_URI for m4 dirs, fix ewl compilation, move emotion to CVS May 16 06:18:28 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r05cee906... 10/packages/efl/engrave_20060128.bb: engrave: re-add May 16 06:18:31 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rbc3cfcd3... 10/packages/efl/ (6 files in 2 dirs): efl: fix SRC_URI for m4 dirs, fix ewl compilation May 16 06:18:36 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rb4bad503... 10/packages/efl/ (emotion_0.0.1.004.bb emotion_20060501.bb): emotion: switch to CVS May 16 06:18:40 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rba920b97... 10/packages/efl/engrave_20060128.bb: engrave: re-add May 16 06:25:30 good morning all May 16 06:28:22 <_law_> morning koen May 16 06:29:17 <_law_> any ideas why the current gpe-image (oz354x) tries to build qemu-native (this one doesn build)? May 16 06:29:35 locale generation? May 16 06:30:54 <_law_> koen, ? May 16 06:43:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rde050bca... 10/packages/intltool/ (intltool-native_0.35.0.bb intltool_0.35.0.bb): intltool(-native): update to 0.35.0 May 16 06:45:18 cute: http://linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2559540724.html May 16 06:45:28 "Andre adds, "We've seen a lot of devices running Trolltech/Qtopia, but that's not really promoting Linux, because you need to add $30 to $40 to the BOM." May 16 06:48:43 interesting May 16 06:48:52 it sounds like it would be a nightmare to support in OE May 16 06:49:43 ... May 16 06:49:54 johnX, are you aware of the 770? May 16 06:51:07 its odd they backported to 2.4.20 May 16 06:51:08 well this thing is running (from their own claims) a very hacked up 2.4.x kernel, a very "interesting" GUI, and doesn't really sound like it would be easy to flash May 16 06:51:24 http://press.nokia.com:80/PR/200605/1051308_5.html May 16 06:52:34 hard to say if qtopia would require more powerful hw or not comparativly ... May 16 06:53:32 probably with the default libraries, but they probably spent the same time to build the fb stuff as it would have been to optimise qtopia May 16 06:54:10 which sort of begs the question, will it be worth it in the long run May 16 06:55:02 from the way they talk about it, it doesn't seem like they had maintainability in mind May 16 06:55:34 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra3723e2d... 10/conf/machine/zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf: zaurus-clamshell-2.6: add AES needed for WPA2 May 16 06:56:41 JSR-271 is pretty May 16 06:57:25 Also available for the first time is source code for Motorola's SD-MMC drivers for Linux, May 16 06:58:19 https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/sfmain/do/home May 16 06:58:25 hmm motorola is going all out May 16 06:59:05 why, it's almost like they want people to make software for their phones :gasp: May 16 06:59:35 well they are paying for sf enterprise May 16 06:59:50 https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/sfmain/do/viewProject/projects.jsr271 May 16 07:05:47 there we go, quick note to the mailing list May 16 07:05:56 http://www.rawcoms.com/content/corporate/nokia/060516/pages/sync/Slide12.jpg May 16 07:06:02 maybe someoen will want to poke at the motorola code May 16 07:06:27 lol May 16 07:06:33 are those peopel drowning? May 16 07:06:57 or its inter-ear radar :P May 16 07:07:16 sonic boom ;) May 16 07:07:21 lol May 16 07:08:59 i cant belive motorola is still puting java chips in it's phones May 16 07:09:37 i just noticed something ... May 16 07:09:50 SF enterprise only has 13 projects May 16 07:14:32 bonjour May 16 07:21:33 <_law_> amy ideas why my gpe-image doesnt build? (http://paste.uni.cc/9005) May 16 07:28:22 why are you using qemu to build for a i386 target? May 16 07:30:49 has anyone ever contacted sharp for a nand backup file? May 16 07:31:29 interesting ... _law_ do you have a 64 bit host? May 16 07:33:07 sws, http://software.nautilus6.org/packages/zaurus/C760-NAND/ May 16 07:33:31 http://software.nautilus6.org/packages/zaurus/ May 16 07:33:41 the wonders of google to find what you want sometimes May 16 07:34:12 emte: well, i need a nand for a poodle pxa255, i googled already May 16 07:37:41 http://downloads.conics.net/pda/zaurus-sl-c700/service-menus/original-backups/ May 16 07:37:55 jpn and english May 16 07:58:54 morning May 16 07:59:02 <_law_> emte, no 32bit x86 May 16 07:59:07 morning May 16 07:59:21 <_law_> hi hrw|work May 16 08:01:56 does ${SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR} end in / or not ? May 16 08:02:08 where are they defined ? May 16 08:04:29 bitbake.conf? May 16 08:06:30 hmm strange May 16 08:07:25 installing soft on SD using card reader rulez May 16 08:08:25 looking the the missing source email, a fair number are missing due to an extra '/' http://thingy.sf.net/sourceforge//package_name.tar.gz ... i can't find where the extra '/' is from May 16 08:09:13 ade|desk: zecke could have a typo in his bitbake.conf May 16 08:09:28 all the bb files have ${SOURCEFORGE}/blob/blob.tar.gz but bitbake.conf has no extra '/' in the define May 16 08:09:58 * ade|desk shakes fist May 16 08:11:14 203MB/s... May 16 08:12:09 ram throughput? May 16 08:12:19 what is the approved way to deal with changing/removing patches that dont apply with current svn and block other arch from compiling ? May 16 08:12:43 koen: wget missing_sources on ewi May 16 08:13:01 :) May 16 08:15:54 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/missing_sources_2.txt is cleaned May 16 08:16:35 // is sf problem May 16 08:18:15 hrw|work maybe but our construct of the URI has no extra '/' May 16 08:18:37 it's a zecke problem ;) May 16 08:19:33 by "// is sf problem" I meant "// was a reason of fetch from sf problems" May 16 08:19:36 hrw can you clean missing_sources_2.txt to remove the sf // problems ? May 16 08:19:48 ade|desk: I'm now fetching sf.net May 16 08:20:26 cool May 16 08:21:48 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/tmp/ is progress of it May 16 08:23:24 looks positive :) May 16 08:35:23 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/sf.net May 16 08:37:20 improves the list a bit ;) May 16 08:37:51 sox removed May 16 08:43:36 ~lart ipkg again May 16 08:43:36 * ibot breaks out the Hoover and sucks up ipkg again May 16 08:53:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2283eac0... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom 2006.9: add multiple tarball stashes till we get our own May 16 08:54:07 koen: which one you use? May 16 08:54:57 OZ + oesources May 16 08:55:19 I haven't had time to sort out my DL_DIR to upload to angstrom-distribution.org May 16 08:55:39 I use src_distribute_local for this May 16 08:56:13 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r7c42603e... 10/packages/ (htb-init/htb-init_0.8.5.bb miau/miau_0.5.3.bb): htb-init, miau: fix SF.net mirror May 16 08:56:18 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r95d8eb7f... 10/packages/ (htb-init/htb-init_0.8.5.bb miau/miau_0.5.3.bb): htb-init, miau: fix SF.net mirror May 16 09:04:45 3 left from sf.net ;) May 16 09:05:49 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r761ecddc... 10/packages/netcat/netcat_0.7.1.bb: netcat: use SOURCEFORGE_MIRROR - file is available on heanet (default mirror) May 16 09:05:50 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rdac9c8ee... 10/packages/wireless-tools/ (wireless-tools_26.bb wireless-tools_27.bb): wireless-tools: fix SRC_URI May 16 09:22:24 morning May 16 09:23:18 ~hail offline ipkg May 16 09:23:21 * ibot bows down to offline ipkg and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" May 16 09:23:24 /dev/sdg1 474M 98M 351M 22% /mnt May 16 09:23:30 my new rootfs for c760 May 16 09:27:06 hey zecke May 16 09:28:13 re May 16 09:28:21 CoreDump: if your poodle is a pxa255, could i ask u for a nand backup, it doesnt matter if you have a 2.6 kernel running; I tried a nand restore yesterday and now I cant flash anymore May 16 09:29:52 sws: lol May 16 09:30:03 CoreDump|home: poodle/2.6 has brightness control at all? May 16 09:30:46 hrw|work: well, yeah, via sysfs =) May 16 09:30:50 sws: let me check May 16 09:31:18 CoreDump|home: ok. so patch for opie can be easy - tell me location of it May 16 09:32:15 /sys/class/backlight/locomo-bl/brightness May 16 09:32:19 thx May 16 09:32:26 will create patch for it May 16 09:33:08 sws: it's a pxa 255, all right May 16 09:33:43 CoreDump|home: you had luck ;) poodle255 ;D May 16 09:34:19 heh May 16 09:35:50 CoreDump|home: http://oe.pastebin.com/720283 May 16 09:37:13 heh now that's an easy one =) I take it that code is run on 2.6 only? May 16 09:37:25 yes May 16 09:37:32 great May 16 09:37:34 CoreDump|home: will add into .oz354x May 16 09:37:41 thanks =) May 16 09:39:07 CoreDump: you are my savior, may I do something good to you to, do you have paypal account? I was realy desperate May 16 09:40:02 * CoreDump|home doesn't have paypal ;) May 16 09:40:13 So, how does one do a nand-backup? May 16 09:40:50 CoreDump|home: reboot with DM pressed May 16 09:41:10 CoreDump|home: then navigate through diag menu to 3rd page and there you will find May 16 09:41:23 thanks May 16 09:41:55 sws: give me a few minutes May 16 09:42:10 CoreDump|home: pushed May 16 09:42:47 CoreDump: thanks May 16 09:43:16 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3b6afc6d... 10/packages/libopie/ (libopie2-1.2.1/poodle-collie-bl.patch libopie2_1.2.1.bb): libopie: fix Poodle/Collie brightness control under 2.6 kernel May 16 09:44:50 oops May 16 09:44:57 * CoreDump|home should push more often... May 16 09:46:06 ;) May 16 09:46:14 hrw|work: can you push that into opie cvs as well? May 16 09:46:55 koen: pushed first into opie May 16 09:48:33 hmm now where is my 128M CF May 16 09:51:37 koen: n770 got the orange ubuntu look? May 16 09:51:49 it seems that way May 16 09:52:00 maybe some dutch soccer fan designed the theme May 16 09:52:50 n770 met it sales goals May 16 09:52:53 that is good :} May 16 09:53:11 it's hard to not meet the goals if you are sold out during x-mas May 16 09:53:43 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r417763d7... 10/packages/zaurusd/ (files/add-poodle.patch zaurusd_svn.bb): zaurusd: Add empty Poodle configuration May 16 09:53:49 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r5185cf81... 10/packages/base-files/ (base-files/poodle/fstab base-files_3.0.14.bb): base-files: Adjust Poodle fstab for kernel 2.6 May 16 09:53:52 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r9a204878... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: locomo: Raise initial LCD brighness from 2 to 3 May 16 09:53:56 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r5fcb009e... 10/packages/qte/qte_2.3.10.bb: qte: Enable kernel-keymap.patch for Poodle, fixing the broken keymap with kernel 2.6 May 16 09:53:57 oh they were out of stock? May 16 09:54:00 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r5bd7aa68... 10/packages/opie-taskbar/ (opie-taskbar/opie_defaults opie-taskbar_1.2.1.bb): opie-taskbar: Poodle: Fix cursor rotation for kernel 2.6 images. Might also be useful for Collie and Tosa with kernel 2.6 May 16 09:54:03 zecke: yes May 16 09:54:04 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rda258762... 10/packages/qte/ (qte-2.3.10/kernel-keymap-sticky-keys.patch qte_2.3.10.bb): qte: Poodle: Add patch for sticky keys in kernel-keymap.patch May 16 09:54:08 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r9fd18b81... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: locomo: Fix up some typos and disable printk May 16 09:54:13 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r8019eb8e... 10/packages/zaurusd/ (files/add-poodle.patch zaurusd_svn.bb): zaurusd: Add empty Poodle configuration May 16 09:54:17 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r4ec1c46e... 10/packages/base-files/ (base-files/poodle/fstab base-files_3.0.14.bb): base-files: Adjust Poodle fstab for kernel 2.6 May 16 09:54:17 CoreDump|home: lol! May 16 09:54:24 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * re2ec6a45... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: locomo: Raise initial LCD brighness from 2 to 3 May 16 09:54:28 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rc47d795c... 10/packages/qte/ (qte-common_2.3.10.inc qte_2.3.10.bb): qte: Enable kernel-keymap.patch for Poodle, fixing the broken keymap with kernel 2.6 May 16 09:54:32 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rebb36a79... 10/packages/opie-taskbar/ (3 files in 2 dirs): opie-taskbar: Poodle: Fix cursor rotation for kernel 2.6 images. Might also be useful for Collie and Tosa with kernel 2.6 May 16 09:54:36 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r398443d5... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux: locomo: Fix up some typos and disable printk May 16 09:54:37 yes well, I really should push more often heh May 16 09:55:03 awesome list May 16 09:55:50 zecke: I couldn't apply the sticky-keys patch to .dev as kernel-keymap.patch in .dev is different from .oz May 16 09:56:04 hmm May 16 09:56:17 CoreDump|home: .oz354x has updated one - I forgot to push that into .dev probably... May 16 09:56:21 CoreDump|home: did it work? May 16 09:56:24 hrw|work: ahh May 16 09:56:28 zecke: yes very nicely May 16 09:56:40 CoreDump|home: and did you get my answer from today morning? May 16 09:56:47 zecke: nope May 16 09:56:54 CoreDump|home: in #opie.de May 16 09:56:57 bug May 16 09:56:57 ciao May 16 09:57:01 =) May 16 09:57:08 ;) May 16 09:57:13 was a mapping problem in any case May 16 09:57:17 precie and accurate May 16 09:57:20 indeed May 16 09:57:28 zecke: CAPSLOCK is broken tho May 16 09:57:40 CoreDump|home: using oz354x? May 16 09:57:47 the "c" is displayed in the taskbar but the latters are not uppercase May 16 09:57:51 yes May 16 09:58:03 letters May 16 09:58:16 CoreDump|home: hmm hrw merged the caps lock patch May 16 09:58:35 hmm May 16 09:59:13 OZ kernel get logo May 16 09:59:23 nice May 16 09:59:31 That yellow dragon thingy is neat May 16 09:59:32 -rw-r--r-- 1 hrw hrw 1076148 2006-05-16 12:07 patches/oz-logo.patch **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 16 09:59:56 2006