**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 16 09:59:56 2006 May 16 10:00:10 takes ~50% of screen currently May 16 10:00:33 err May 16 10:02:53 koen: could you downgrade to vim6? May 16 10:03:00 or vim5 whatever is not broken May 16 10:03:08 zecke: ask hrw :) May 16 10:03:23 vim7 is nice but koen fscked it on ewi May 16 10:03:24 hrw|work: do you insist on having a fucked up vim? May 16 10:03:40 hrw|work: koen said debian is fucked up May 16 10:03:43 zecke: vim6 was fscked, vim7 is fscked May 16 10:03:57 zecke: vim7 works great on my debian machines. 6.4 was working great too May 16 10:04:15 I need syntax highlighting May 16 10:04:24 let's try 'apt-get remove vim --purge && apt-get install vim' May 16 10:04:40 koen: that worked once for me (similiar issue) May 16 10:04:41 koen: apt-get install vim --reinstall May 16 10:04:46 hi fooks May 16 10:04:47 hrw|work: that didn't May 16 10:04:51 likewise: hi May 16 10:04:55 hi likewise May 16 10:04:58 likewise: .nl? I thought you were .no May 16 10:05:39 that's goxboxlive May 16 10:06:17 sws: I'm uploading the backup now, takes about 20m May 16 10:06:22 "bash: /usr/bin/vim: No such file or directory" May 16 10:06:25 I can't work this way May 16 10:06:31 koen: I want a refund! May 16 10:06:51 :) May 16 10:07:28 hey May 16 10:07:30 syntax is working May 16 10:07:33 CoreDump|home: thanks May 16 10:08:44 CoreDump|home: ain't 32mb fun with gpe? May 16 10:08:53 CoreDump|home: imagine running it with broken cache and vga May 16 10:08:58 hehe May 16 10:09:06 koen: unusable, really May 16 10:09:35 gcc4 + -Os makes it a lot better May 16 10:09:41 A naked GPE would fill the RAM completly May 16 10:10:05 I got around it by removing a shitload of panelapps May 16 10:10:30 I'll try to make a screenshot of "free" =) May 16 10:10:44 CoreDump|home: naked GPE == GPE without matchbox? May 16 10:10:51 naked in the sense of missing decoration? May 16 10:11:02 zecke: nah, naked as in "no other apps running" May 16 10:11:14 zecke: .nl. Why, you have something against us? :-) May 16 10:11:45 likewise: sure. I will drown you in Vla and Frikandel Special! May 16 10:11:47 *evil* May 16 10:11:57 zecke: I will make your SMART go BAD :-) May 16 10:12:16 zecke: what are the results of your -t long run? May 16 10:12:23 likewise: I have maxtor disks :) May 16 10:12:33 likewise: I used --all again, or how do I view the result? May 16 10:12:39 smartmontools -a /dev/xxx May 16 10:12:40 likewise: it looked still fine May 16 10:12:48 smartmontools -a /dev/xxx | grep ect May 16 10:12:57 likewise: ah okay, will check once I'm home May 16 10:13:07 This will show the stuff regarding bad/unrecovered s/S"ect"ors May 16 10:13:20 nothing against .nl, I have relatives in Eindhoven May 16 10:13:33 zecke: living there. May 16 10:13:54 likewise: actually most of them live in Zon (or is that Son...) May 16 10:14:13 zecke: Son yes. May 16 10:14:34 oh it is even in Wikipedia :} May 16 10:14:40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_en_Breugel May 16 10:14:41 haha May 16 10:15:03 morning all May 16 10:15:25 likewise: you are not from Son right (that would be a bad coincidence) May 16 10:15:53 no, http://www.nl.map24.com/ and then Postcode "5613KE" May 16 10:16:14 Quite near the University of Techology May 16 10:16:23 +n May 16 10:18:15 morning d013 May 16 10:18:21 hey dirk May 16 10:18:57 hi dirk May 16 10:19:07 who feels mature enough to touch the SRC_URI for libXscrnSaver? May 16 10:19:37 be back in a minute May 16 10:22:43 re May 16 10:23:18 kick monotone someone? May 16 10:23:24 monotone: connecting to monotone.vanille.de May 16 10:23:28 on vanille? May 16 10:23:32 yep May 16 10:23:43 I'm doing it May 16 10:23:47 thx May 16 10:24:10 done May 16 10:24:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6cf43463... 10/conf/distro/angstrom.conf: angstrom: adjust angstrom uri May 16 10:24:25 connecte May 16 10:24:26 d May 16 10:26:24 sws: http://hentges.net/tmp/NAND-Backups/ May 16 10:31:49 CoreDump|home: thank you very much, i will try this afternoon at home May 16 10:31:53 np May 16 10:32:03 bye May 16 10:42:04 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r28: task do_patch: completed May 16 10:45:26 hehe it's really not easy to capture a screenshot of GPE on poodle May 16 10:47:02 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r46f7b150... 10/packages/lua/lua-native_5.0.2.bb: lua-native: Change include order to fix staging. May 16 10:47:06 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb24e9b02... 10/packages/lua/ (lua-gtk2/lua-gtk2-0.3_fixbuild.patch lua-gtk2_0.3.bb): lua-gtk2: Add GTK bindings for LUA. May 16 10:47:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2d74ab18... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: angstrom-2006.9: slide hh.org pxa kernel cvsdate forward a bit May 16 10:49:12 CoreDump|home: gpe-screenshot OOM? May 16 10:49:29 koen: 24_hostap patch should be dropped May 16 10:49:48 > All patches require 24_hostap_cs_id.diff from Pavel Roskin. May 16 10:49:49 This patch was never submitted. Please ignore the series. May 16 10:49:50 pretty much "cannot write temporary file" (because /tmp is full due to OOM) May 16 10:51:39 * CoreDump|home links /tmp to /home/tmp... May 16 10:53:33 CoreDump|home: can you try kernel on akita? May 16 10:53:48 yes, but only later today May 16 10:55:11 oka May 16 10:55:27 I'm curious does logo will be in correct place May 16 10:59:24 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.24247.png May 16 11:11:01 zecke: apple store is down May 16 11:11:12 zecke: I anticipate a new macbook (pro) May 16 11:11:32 oh May 16 11:13:51 un the bad src URL's messgae, what was the fix for sf url's? May 16 11:14:05 Crofton: wait :) May 16 11:14:10 ok May 16 11:14:16 CoreDump|home: the SFS.net CVS things need to be changed May 16 11:14:19 CoreDump|home: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc4/akita/ contain kernel to test May 16 11:14:55 s/ CoreDump|home / Crofton May 16 11:15:08 BTW: Robert griebl hired at Trolltech May 16 11:15:08 hrw|work: ok! May 16 11:18:58 good morning May 16 11:19:53 zecke: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/images/mtn_cheat_sheet.png May 16 11:20:04 zecke: do we want something like that for OE as well? May 16 11:20:21 pb__: it seems that my task-bootstrap is done... i had to use a trick, deleting all the content of bits/* in the cvs-version of libc and i have to define --without-tls to get glibc working (was mentioned somewhere in the usenet) May 16 11:20:48 * chouimat is back. May 16 11:21:22 morning May 16 11:22:55 as inspired by: http://people.type-z.org/seb/mercurial/v1.0/Mercurial-QuickStart-v1.0-120dpi.png May 16 11:28:10 does monotone rename really work? May 16 11:29:01 monotone mv works May 16 11:29:19 do you have to move the file in your wrking copy also? May 16 11:29:43 yes, but mtn has a -e switch for that May 16 11:29:51 ah May 16 11:29:58 'mtn mv foo bar && mv foo bar' or 'mtn -e mv foo bar' May 16 11:30:25 lets just say it isn't as easy as svn mv :) May 16 11:30:52 Options specific to 'monotone mv': May 16 11:30:52 -e, --execute perform the associated file operation May 16 11:32:11 I think the help could be written more clearly May 16 11:37:06 /me thinks people should merge more often May 16 11:38:35 <_law_> has someone strip in his toolchain? May 16 11:39:22 koen: merge gpe opie = goppie? May 16 11:39:54 ogpie? May 16 11:40:51 Open Gtk Palmtop Integrated Enviroment? May 16 11:42:14 the g isn't for gtk May 16 11:42:55 koen: it was GNU but then you chickened out ;) May 16 11:43:11 yeah May 16 11:43:15 koen: I might ask the FSF to start a GNU Palmtop Environment May 16 11:43:23 heh May 16 11:43:28 hurd on a pda May 16 11:43:43 Hurds of GNU May 16 11:43:43 <_guillermo> hrw|work: I know you have fixed most of the downloading from sf problems, any advise what to do about libXscrnSaver? May 16 11:43:59 <_guillermo> should I report a bug since it's not even in xorg sources? May 16 11:44:20 _guillermo: it has a typo ;) May 16 11:44:34 _guillermo: the SRC_URI should be libXScrn May 16 11:44:38 _guillermo: capital 'S' May 16 11:44:53 <_guillermo> no!! May 16 11:45:12 _guillermo: I have not yet found a X guy to fix that, short term solution is to use Qtopia/Opie May 16 11:45:16 <_guillermo> so easy! Ishould have checked it myself May 16 11:46:14 okay i move to class now May 16 11:47:26 what time is it in Italy right now? May 16 11:47:29 zecke: you can fix it yourself May 16 11:47:34 Crofton: 13:59 May 16 11:47:55 go Jan Ulrich go ;) May 16 11:48:02 hmm May 16 11:53:15 ~lart me May 16 11:53:15 * ibot pours hot grits down the front of ade|desk's pants May 16 11:53:47 10 mins try to build task-boostrap , no deps May 16 11:54:34 time to add a 't' and have a cuppa May 16 11:54:38 Terminar: ah, right, very good May 16 11:54:39 hey May 16 11:55:27 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r2a73f080... 10/packages/qemu/qemu-native_0.7.0.bb: qemu-native: also check for gcc 3.2 May 16 11:56:08 3.2?!?! May 16 11:56:36 lol May 16 11:57:22 Btw, whats been updated lately, noticed theres 29 more revs since last night May 16 11:57:36 'monotone log | more' May 16 11:57:42 thx May 16 11:57:47 or check cia / viewmtn / etc May 16 11:59:20 koen: yes - 3.2 May 16 11:59:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8de407a7... 10/packages/wifi-radar/ (3 files in 2 dirs): add wifiradar, closes #992 May 16 11:59:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r10de8e5b... 10/packages/xlibs/libxss_1.0.1.bb: libxss: fix XORG_PN May 16 12:10:16 <_guillermo> any tip where to get xstroke-0.6.tar.gz from? a html file with advertising is being downloaded from the project website, and of course it fails to unzip May 16 12:13:10 <_guillermo> it has just been downloaded from oesources, so no problem anymore May 16 12:14:04 pb__: i'm not trained with oe yet, maybe i can contribute some stuff later.. first i need working stuff for the x86.... is there a way to contribute to oe? May 16 12:14:23 Terminar: add patches to the bugtracker May 16 12:15:00 koen: k, thanks :) May 16 12:15:18 but that may take a while :) just trying to understand the oe world :) May 16 12:16:14 gpe is just Xorg with gpe-apps? May 16 12:18:57 i have a problem with qemu-native patching stage : http://pastebin.com/720471 . Could someone please have a look ? May 16 12:21:06 too new srcdate for patch? May 16 12:21:14 re May 16 12:21:32 zecke: wb May 16 12:22:24 hrw|work : how can i fix this ? May 16 12:22:31 file://umba.patch;patch=1;mindate=20060512;maxdate=20060518 - one day it will happen... May 16 12:22:39 theturtle_: remove that patch and rebuild May 16 12:24:23 hrw|work: hehe May 16 12:25:09 zecke: patch handling is bitbake part? May 16 12:26:16 hrw|work: ah patch handling May 16 12:26:19 hrw|work: no :) May 16 12:26:21 hrw|work: base.bbclass May 16 12:26:24 thx May 16 12:31:25 <_guillermo> angstrom in my akita is showing so may segmentation fault that I cannot count them! May 16 12:34:14 Anyone familiar with why Im having issues with programs not finding my DN_MODIFY, DN_DELETE.... defines? May 16 12:34:34 KenJlime: DN is Dnotify? May 16 12:35:07 ljp: ping May 16 12:36:17 zecke: Im having issues building matchbox & dbus with those errors, defining them fixes it, but seems like a sucky solution. Im trying to find where they "should" be defined May 16 12:36:39 KenJlime: glibc May 16 12:36:53 zecke: yeah, but more exactly where May 16 12:37:38 KenJlime: grep ;) May 16 12:37:46 KenJlime: could be linux-libc-headers as well May 16 12:39:53 koen: FSF might be leaving GSoC May 16 12:40:45 hrw|work : how can i remove the patch from qemu-native ? i tried to search patch command in bb files but i see nothing May 16 12:41:00 ;patch=1 May 16 12:41:05 remove the line ;) May 16 12:41:14 ho ok May 16 12:41:41 pb_: did I break GPE yet? May 16 12:41:45 zecke: FSF is supporting 7 year old russians? May 16 12:42:23 zecke : shall i delete patch=1, put patch=0 or delete the whole line ? May 16 12:43:10 theturtle_: remove May 16 12:43:15 ok thanks May 16 12:43:19 <_guillermo> have anyone been successful booting ansgtrom in akita? May 16 12:43:37 koen: actually I would be mad at FSF if they take money but give up freedom? May 16 12:44:05 if wouldn't surprise me anymore May 16 12:45:28 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/720510 May 16 12:46:00 zecke: mindate/maxdate for patches May 16 12:46:29 zecke: NOTE: package ipkg-0.99.159-r0: task do_configure: started May 16 12:46:29 May 16 12:46:30 :-} May 16 12:46:58 I don't think it's started actually building gpe yet May 16 12:47:13 hrw|work: make it with SRCDATE="now" work May 16 12:47:18 but, well, fingers crossed. I need to leave here in about two hours. May 16 12:47:24 pb__: it might chicken out already May 16 12:47:25 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/720512 is output for it May 16 12:47:33 pb__: "Oh this GCC is looking mean..." May 16 12:48:55 zecke: indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if our configure scripts have "checking for compiler with crazy zecke patches" May 16 12:48:59 ah, here we go May 16 12:49:06 NOTE: package xextensions-1.0.1: completed May 16 12:49:06 NOTE: package xau-0.1.1: started May 16 12:49:40 any good way to tell grep to give me the name of the file that contained the string? May 16 12:49:58 -H, --with-filename print the filename for each match May 16 12:50:04 thx May 16 12:50:16 next time you might consider trying "grep --help" for yourself May 16 12:50:37 KenJlime: I use -n as well May 16 12:51:49 zecke: can it be: if srcdate == 'now': srcdate = time.strftime('%Y%m%d',time.gmtime()) or not? May 16 12:52:02 'now' May 16 12:52:07 hrw|work: but looks good :) May 16 12:52:12 oka May 16 12:52:31 hrw|work: where is the patch for the user manual? May 16 12:52:57 zecke: first I want to get working patch, then accept, then manual May 16 12:53:28 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/720522 May 16 12:55:12 http://oe.pastebin.com/720526 is cleaned version May 16 12:55:48 hmm May 16 12:55:57 you will have mindate and maxdate defined in both cases May 16 12:56:03 you can skip the if May 16 12:56:18 but this will print too ugly lines for each.... May 16 12:56:35 oh you removed the text as well :} May 16 12:56:57 bb.note was for debugging May 16 12:57:17 omitting 'outdated/predated' patch message would be nice May 16 12:57:57 ok May 16 13:00:43 zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/720532 May 16 13:01:26 hrw|work: skip that if maxdate or ... May 16 13:01:31 hrw|work: it will be always true May 16 13:03:17 koen: http://git.infradead.org/?p=mtd-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e68fbb59b3d4e6b47b65e9928b5929e02179759 May 16 13:03:21 koen: tried that already? May 16 13:04:20 zecke: lakml mail? May 16 13:04:29 yes May 16 13:04:36 oh and badblock scan for jffs2 May 16 13:06:03 http://laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2006-May/000049.html is interesting May 16 13:06:05 how can I replace a "native" package, Im interested in upgrading my linux-libc-headers May 16 13:06:28 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r8fa800bb... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 13:06:28 usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 13:06:28 fix grammar again (unpushed at home) May 16 13:06:29 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * rd46fa6e1... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 13:06:29 usermanual/usermanual: May 16 13:06:29 Fold the two authors into one line May 16 13:06:29 KenJlime: -cclean, May 16 13:06:35 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r5738f541... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 13:06:35 usermanual.xml: May 16 13:06:37 Write some crap about the layout of OpenEmbedded May 16 13:06:39 in regard to the BitBake data. May 16 13:07:15 zecke: but how? for instance would bitbake -c clean glibc-native delete the native glibc? May 16 13:07:36 I want to change the contents of the staging files May 16 13:07:50 KenJlime: it won't change the STAGING dirs May 16 13:07:56 KenJlime: but if you rebuild they are changed May 16 13:07:57 zecke: if (maxdate < srcdate) or (mindate > srcdate): May 16 13:08:02 zecke: that one? May 16 13:08:09 no May 16 13:08:12 the one abive May 16 13:08:16 ah.. May 16 13:08:20 if a: b = b else b = 0 May 16 13:08:22 if b: May 16 13:08:30 it will be always trie, one hopes May 16 13:08:53 yes - it was left from time when there was no defaults for mindate/maxdate May 16 13:09:03 zecke: Im not sure if Im making myself clear (sorry), but to put it frankly, the linux-libc-headers isnt creating a good config.h file, (tmp/staging/include/linux/config.h) and I want to replace that with a different linux-libc-headers version May 16 13:09:34 zecke: haven't tried http://laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2006-May/000049.html May 16 13:09:43 ehm May 16 13:09:47 http://git.infradead.org/?p=mtd-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=3e68fbb59b3d4e6b47b65e9928b5929e02179759 May 16 13:10:15 KenJlime: rebuild the linux-libc-headers package May 16 13:10:23 KenJlime: first clean it, then build it again May 16 13:10:29 ok. zecke: http://oe.pastebin.com/720555 is rather final ver May 16 13:10:31 zecke: oki thx understand now May 16 13:10:44 KenJlime: you can juts clean it, and build another package May 16 13:10:50 KenJlime: this should reinstall them automatically May 16 13:10:58 KenJlime: otherwise one could increase PR May 16 13:11:06 KenJlime: in this case it would be rebuild as well May 16 13:27:39 zecke: getting closer to the issue why matchbox-desktop / dbus and such fails to build, but cannot understand why it doesnt affect other archs May 16 13:28:58 KenJlime: maybe because SuperH sucks? May 16 13:29:24 KenJlime: no idea though May 16 13:29:25 zecke: :P May 16 13:29:44 how did it check fot config.h? May 16 13:31:54 zecke: nah, thats not the issue, gone passed that May 16 13:32:06 the issue is linux/fcntl.h not being included May 16 13:32:47 Or atleast its defines May 16 13:34:53 KenJlime: some one uses the same #ifdef guard twice in two different files? May 16 13:35:23 zecke: what? May 16 13:36:41 foo.h May 16 13:36:46 #ifdef FOO_H May 16 13:36:49 #define FOO_H May 16 13:36:51 #endif May 16 13:36:55 bar.h May 16 13:36:59 #ifdef FOO_H May 16 13:37:02 #define FOO_H May 16 13:37:03 #endif May 16 13:37:25 now if you include both foo.h and bar.h one of the defs will be missing May 16 13:37:39 could that happen in a linux and sh header? May 16 13:37:47 hmm, havent looked at that yet. But good idea May 16 13:44:07 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * re6ec2b3b... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 13:44:07 usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 13:44:07 Bla bla on how to get BitBake, how to update it May 16 13:44:07 and when you should update... my writing sucks May 16 13:51:33 problem with glibc building : http://pastebin.com/720622 May 16 13:52:02 qemu segfaults but i don't know why. And i don't know why qemu is being used to build a glibc package... May 16 13:52:59 theturtle_: broken glibc (on your host) May 16 13:53:10 theturtle_: generating locales, if you enabled it do... May 16 13:54:48 zecke : how can i change locale generation settings ? May 16 13:55:34 my host glibc is compiled with ntpl, could it be related ? May 16 13:55:59 theturtle_: dunno, try in a qemu support channel May 16 13:56:04 theturtle_: do you use familiar? May 16 13:57:00 theturtle_: see local.conf.sample May 16 13:57:03 yep, on my ipaq May 16 13:57:58 as DISTRO? May 16 13:58:18 yes, familiar-unstable May 16 13:58:33 ho i haven't seen i could use a host built qemu May 16 13:58:37 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/file.psp?id=10de8e5b6f6b7e2f00223e8d81c6f56c57189919&path=conf/local.conf.sample May 16 13:58:38 thanks master zecke ;) May 16 13:58:45 ENABLE_BINARY_L... May 16 13:59:18 a) disable locale generation May 16 13:59:27 b) install a 'working' qemu and assume provided it May 16 13:59:43 yep i'm testing b) May 16 13:59:50 zecke: good news! May 16 14:00:00 NOTE: package bluez-utils-dbus-2.21: failed May 16 14:00:00 ERROR: Build of gpe-image failed May 16 14:00:12 yeah The Gpe The ;) May 16 14:00:28 pb__: why did it fail? May 16 14:00:36 configure:9106: checking bluetooth/bluetooth.h usability configure:9118: ccache arm-linux-gcc -march=armv4 -mtune=xscale -c -I/nexus/home/pb/oe/build-h3900/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include -fexpensive-optimizations -fomit-frame-pointer -frename-registers -O2 -I/nexus/home/pb/oe/build-h3900/tmp/staging/arm-linux/include -I/usr/include conftest.c >&5 May 16 14:00:36 CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include May 16 14:00:36 cc1: internal compiler error: Aborted May 16 14:00:36 Please submit a full bug report, May 16 14:00:39 with preprocessed source if appropriate. May 16 14:00:41 See for instructions. May 16 14:00:49 pb__: psst May 16 14:01:03 pb__: I think the gcc folks will love me... May 16 14:01:24 zecke: maybe it would be better to use exit(1) rather than abort() May 16 14:01:52 pb__: exit_rm_rf() would be an option May 16 14:02:07 *happy* May 16 14:02:25 heh May 16 14:02:50 so I will push the code tonight May 16 14:02:54 okay, very good May 16 14:03:12 I think the actual bug here is in bluez.m4. I wonder why opie doesn't fall foul of that. May 16 14:03:13 pb__: I have it as SRC_URI_fail-fast in my bb files May 16 14:03:20 pb__: no dbus May 16 14:03:26 oh well May 16 14:03:39 right, but bluez.m4 is used even by the no dbus version May 16 14:03:39 pb__: you know, we break Opie as well, just to break GPE May 16 14:03:47 ah right May 16 14:03:53 yeah, gotta get those priorities straight May 16 14:03:54 pb__: we hate it so much! May 16 14:04:00 :) May 16 14:04:51 pb__: should I risk breaking packages for .dev? May 16 14:05:09 pb__: or should we allow conditionally enabling this patch and fix the packages first May 16 14:08:44 zecke: it would be bad form to check in the patch when we know it breaks packages. We should at least fix bluez-utils before enabling it. May 16 14:10:08 I think it should just be a case of removing the spurious test -d "${bluez_prefix}/include" && BLUEZ_CFLAGS="$BLUEZ_CFLAGS -I${bluez_prefix}/include" from bluez.m4 May 16 14:10:58 at least, from the staged version. May 16 14:11:17 might want to keep it in the installed one I suppose May 16 14:12:49 koen: angstrom will use pcmciautils - right? May 16 14:13:03 koen: want some kernel wifi patches? May 16 14:14:09 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/kernel-patches/ May 16 14:14:18 hrw|work: yes, we plan on using pcmcia-utils May 16 14:15:03 koen: that dir contain my hostap patches which I just resent (3rd time) to netdev ML May 16 14:23:28 um, anyone watching giro? May 16 14:37:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2a0ed872... 10/packages/epdfview/epdfview_0.1.4.bb: May 16 14:37:30 epdfview: add 0.1.4 May 16 14:37:30 * requires gtk 2.8.x to build May 16 14:43:21 koen: apt-get --purge remove nvi :) May 16 14:44:33 done May 16 14:44:46 is vim fixed now? May 16 14:47:08 yes May 16 14:47:22 and I dont know what was wrong before May 16 14:47:25 * chouimat is away: food May 16 14:47:28 * koen neither May 16 14:47:34 one day I will upgrade OE to vim7 May 16 14:49:23 "FOTA (Flash on-the-air) May 16 14:49:24 Basically a function by which network operators can modify the flash memory of your phone, thereby forcing software updates onto you. Not something completely new in the GSM world, but something that always gives me the creepes as a security professional." May 16 14:49:28 eeks May 16 14:49:33 ~lart motorola May 16 14:49:34 * ibot slaps a compatible dib on motorola's head May 16 14:52:56 'morning all. Anybody know the trick to make gphoto2 "see" my camera? I got udev making the right links and all... May 16 14:54:03 HopsNBarley: install the correct backed/plugin? May 16 14:54:10 it's been a while since I played with it May 16 14:54:13 jiz... we have 78 patches in linux-oz May 16 14:54:32 hrw|work: I showed that .bb at fosdem May 16 14:54:39 the reactions were priceless May 16 14:54:50 koen: I know - watched video May 16 14:55:06 koen: the camera is supported, if that's what you mean. May 16 14:55:12 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rcc6a6524... 10/packages/wifi-radar/ (3 files in 2 dirs): wifi-radar: added 1.9.6 from #992 May 16 14:55:17 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r60b9a51c... 10/packages/xstroke/xstroke_0.6.bb: xstroke: set SRC_URI to OZ source archive May 16 14:55:20 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r27ed1f05... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: remove all wifi hacks and not-pushed-upstream patches, add one patch (sent upstream) May 16 14:55:55 koen: got time to add a patch? May 16 14:55:57 hrw|work: trying to get a 'hack-free' kernel? May 16 14:57:33 koen: I decided to not waste time on hacking this part of kernel May 16 14:57:47 Bug #955 is finished (add patch to glibc-2.3.5+cvs...bb file) May 16 15:02:42 fscking gcj crap crap crap !!!! May 16 15:02:56 ? May 16 15:03:20 sorry having a bad day with gcc building the wrong stuff May 16 15:03:27 or not building the right stuff May 16 15:04:15 gcj doesnt build on much May 16 15:04:20 atleast not on my arch :) May 16 15:05:31 nor does uclibc like gcj May 16 15:29:37 cu May 16 15:36:42 e just built for the superh, thats really creepy May 16 15:43:56 *yawn* May 16 15:44:00 hi guys May 16 15:44:37 hey mickeyl May 16 15:45:03 mickeyl: hey May 16 15:46:10 ~spell Issuing May 16 15:46:12 'Issuing' may be spelled correctly May 16 15:50:29 03koen 07org.oe.documentation * rdb40159c... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: usermanual/usermanual.xml: some spelling and grammer fixes May 16 15:51:28 bleh May 16 15:51:42 we need a native speaker to check the manual May 16 16:03:38 mickeyl: the monotone devs are planing to add autoreplication support :) May 16 16:03:50 mickeyl: so we don't have run run sync scripts every 15 minutes May 16 16:04:18 * chouimat is back. May 16 16:04:26 koen: good news May 16 16:08:31 mickeyl: when you got time bug #955 and #958 are ready to be commited and closed May 16 16:16:21 hmmyeah May 16 16:19:04 mickeyl: did you get any job offers already? May 16 16:23:54 are there any known (current) problems with xtscal on akita? May 16 16:24:09 koen: if i decide against freelancing, then there are two pretty interesting options already there. The thing is first I need to decide between a) academia b) contract work c) employed work May 16 16:24:24 koen: and even this decision I can't really do before having submitted the damn thesis May 16 16:24:32 mickeyl: you were able to leave without signing a pre-contract? May 16 16:25:01 zecke: hehe. yeah. it was nice though. if i were to go for option c) basyskom would be #1 on my list atm. May 16 16:25:12 mickeyl: argh May 16 16:25:15 * zecke runs May 16 16:25:23 heh May 16 16:25:28 well, i didn't see much yet May 16 16:25:37 all in all May 16 16:25:41 mickeyl: BTW: sandman will work in munich May 16 16:25:50 zecke: not berlin? May 16 16:28:35 mickeyl: heh, you enjoy the anguish of qt/e? May 16 16:28:46 any gpe devs around? May 16 16:29:16 koen: :D there might be a future for it May 16 16:29:26 koen: not on handhelds though May 16 16:30:34 btw.... i played with a MacBookPro today May 16 16:30:38 it has convinced me. May 16 16:30:55 i will get that rather than a lenovo x60s May 16 16:31:36 mickeyl, its all about teaching, where else do you get 4 moths a yr holidays and a sabatical every 4 yrs ? May 16 16:31:41 months * May 16 16:31:58 emte: that's right. that's the strongest argument for academia indeed May 16 16:32:33 if you have or are planning to have kids, its what i am told is a great choice May 16 16:32:46 roughly planning May 16 16:33:00 not the near future though May 16 16:33:05 since your holidays will coincide with thiers May 16 16:33:07 mickeyl: did you see the new macbooks? May 16 16:33:15 koen: ya. black and white May 16 16:33:25 like a COW!! May 16 16:33:27 :P May 16 16:33:33 i love the silber things. same tone as my car May 16 16:33:37 s/tone/colour/ May 16 16:34:26 mickeyl: too bad apple dropped the 12" pro versions May 16 16:34:47 ya. a 15" is not what i call ultraportable May 16 16:35:28 try viewing it next to a 17" model ;) May 16 16:35:42 hehe May 16 16:35:46 you sea asus's new beast? May 16 16:35:50 see* May 16 16:35:50 not yet May 16 16:35:58 has a full size kbd May 16 16:36:11 now guess the size of eth lcd May 16 16:36:14 the* May 16 16:36:17 mickeyl: or a 19" laptop with sli and sata raid.... May 16 16:36:31 huh nah. i don't need a workstation May 16 16:36:36 have two already May 16 16:36:52 I hardly use my workstation May 16 16:36:52 its all about a flybook May 16 16:36:58 :) May 16 16:37:07 I just hookup the powerbook to a keyboard, mouse and 20" lcd May 16 16:37:13 wish they were not so damn expensive May 16 16:38:00 hrm. can anyone report what their ts calibration values are, for GPE? May 16 16:38:09 (on any platform :/ May 16 16:38:16 raduga: the same as for opie May 16 16:38:42 koen: can you tell me what a sensible set of numbers might be? May 16 16:38:43 'ipkg install tslib-calibrate ; ts_calibrate' May 16 16:39:27 raduga: that depends on your touchscreen :) May 16 16:40:12 zecke: understood. Akita would be nice, but even non-akita values, I would be able to get some idea what's going on here ;) May 16 16:40:29 * koen repeats 'ipkg install tslib-calibrate ; ts_calibrate' May 16 16:41:07 raduga: pick a point May 16 16:41:11 raduga: ts_print_raw May 16 16:41:14 raduga: click somewhere May 16 16:41:23 raduga: strect the values May 16 16:41:28 look if they make sense May 16 16:46:15 koen: maemo mapper doesn't really work here. i thought it was supposed to work also without a gps receiver wasn't it? May 16 16:46:35 mickeyl: yes May 16 16:46:44 mickeyl: try 'mkdir -p ~/apps/' May 16 16:46:44 hmm... just closes here after not finding one May 16 16:47:03 will try May 16 16:47:06 did you put in a good map url? May 16 16:47:10 uhm... no May 16 16:47:11 :D May 16 16:47:51 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4d80385d... 10/packages/glibc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): glibc-cvs-2.3.5: apply superh fcntl patch for sh3|sh4. closes #955 May 16 16:47:55 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r5b0f4b84... 10/packages/jamvm/jamvm/sh3sh4-support.patch: May 16 16:47:55 jamvm: add sh3sh4 support patch. bug #958, not closed yet. May 16 16:47:55 NOTE: do we really need all those versions? how about a .inc file? May 16 16:48:44 mickeyl: http://mt.google.com/mt?n=404&v=ap.6&x=%d&y=%d&zoom=%d May 16 16:49:04 yes, it's annoying to input that with the vkb May 16 16:49:34 uh oh May 16 16:49:41 ~lart handhelds without keyboard May 16 16:49:41 * ibot runs at handhelds without keyboard with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut May 16 16:50:51 mickeyl: get a bt keyboard ;) May 16 16:51:01 righto May 16 16:51:06 can you recommend one? May 16 16:51:23 ibot: are you a handheld, yourself? May 16 16:51:25 any one that does HID May 16 16:51:30 like the nokia su-8w May 16 16:52:13 get the lazer one May 16 16:52:20 its ultra geeky May 16 16:52:29 emte: laser? May 16 16:52:31 hehe, yeah May 16 16:52:33 that's wicked May 16 16:52:39 * mickeyl configuring his macbookpro May 16 16:52:39 emte: they get discalibrated... quickly May 16 16:52:46 do i need a 7200Umin HD ? May 16 16:52:51 hehe May 16 16:52:53 http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/8193/ May 16 16:52:53 * mickeyl ponders May 16 16:52:58 mickeyl: yes May 16 16:53:05 isn't that louder? May 16 16:53:10 mickeyl: it makes a huge difference speedwise May 16 16:53:29 I upgraded from 4200rpm -> 5400rm May 16 16:53:45 seemed like I had an extra cpu May 16 16:53:46 buy a 10k if you can ... they run hot tho May 16 16:54:04 i've never really noticed a noise difference myself May 16 16:54:16 only ide vs scsi May 16 16:54:17 I don't think apple ships 10k drives :) May 16 16:54:31 they did for a while ... May 16 16:54:33 hmm... /me needs more reviews May 16 16:54:34 bbl May 16 16:54:54 before they went mainstream and switched to ATA May 16 16:56:38 koen: thank you. May 16 16:56:58 sorry for being bullheaded; i thought that xtscal was what handled it for GPE :/ May 16 16:57:19 raduga: it does May 16 16:57:23 eh. May 16 16:57:40 zecke: xtscal [should|should not] segfault when run? May 16 16:58:21 raduga: should not May 16 16:58:28 ts_calibrate works fine; but the TS was unusable until after installing it May 16 16:58:32 raduga: but for some reason it started segfaulting May 16 16:58:34 (from .dev gpe-image) May 16 16:58:37 koen: ok. May 16 16:58:54 I suspect it dislikes some of the new xorg libs May 16 16:59:08 koen: thanks. (i think i understand now) May 16 16:59:24 raduga: it should not, and it shares the algorithm with ts_calibrate May 16 17:02:26 mickey|bbl: check http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1947&page=7&pp=10&highlight=maemo+mapper for more cute tricks May 16 17:06:16 Could someone add the blackbox package I put on the bug list?.. May 16 17:18:16 5 bad blocks May 16 17:25:15 glibc is currently broken, someone needs to add an pnum=0 after the fcntl.h patch in glibc-2.3.5+cvs...bb file May 16 17:25:44 mickey|bbl: ? May 16 17:31:18 koen: could you fix it? May 16 17:31:35 ~lart people generating p0 patches May 16 17:31:35 * ibot installs a bad bootloader on people generating p0 patches and turns people generating p0 patches into a brick May 16 17:31:37 i'll handle it May 16 17:31:42 :D May 16 17:37:12 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf41f4b9e... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb: glibc 2.3.5+cvs fix pnum=0 patch (tss...) May 16 17:41:25 mickeyl: have you seen my attempt to break GPE? May 16 17:41:46 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r7a45037f... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.16/00-hostap.patch: linux-openzaurus: fixed hostap patch May 16 17:43:18 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r83a6b4d8... 10/packages/xqt2/ (8 files in 2 dirs): x/qt2 - 20060509 version from .dev May 16 17:43:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r9eea59f1... 10/packages/qpphoto/ (4 files in 2 dirs): qpphoto: added 1.0.2 May 16 17:44:10 zecke; ya, good work. heh May 16 17:44:32 mickeyl: look at http://oe.pastebin.com/720555 - file://fix.patch;patch=1;mindate=20050422;maxdate=20060403 is possible with it May 16 17:44:39 * hrw for a moment May 16 17:45:02 hrw: I hope you don't violate MVista patents May 16 17:45:16 cool! May 16 17:45:30 zecke: just 5 times so it does not count May 16 17:46:10 mickeyl: look at it, test and commit today or give me info so I will commit it tomorrow May 16 17:46:20 btw: May 16 17:46:21 NOTE: Applying patch 'oz-logo-640.patch' May 16 17:46:21 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r29: task do_patch: completed May 16 17:46:50 I'm building 2.6.16 for all Z now May 16 17:47:05 oz-logo-{24,48,64}0.patch May 16 17:47:07 k May 16 17:49:10 cu May 16 17:49:15 cya May 16 17:49:19 great ania May 16 18:08:51 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rcd1f7bde... 10/packages/vmedit/vmedit_0.01.bb: vmedit: Add version 0.01. May 16 18:09:02 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r967ebf04... 10/packages/vmedit/vmedit_0.01.bb: vmedit: Add author, dependency update. May 16 18:09:53 zecke: Ania thx and greets you May 16 18:11:05 what does this mean: ERROR: Openembedded's config sanity checker detected a potential misconfiguration. May 16 18:11:13 if I run it again, everything is fine May 16 18:12:12 *puh spelt it right* May 16 18:12:39 cbrake_: missing a tool? May 16 18:12:39 (it was right the first time) May 16 18:13:01 cbrake_: dev. machine lack diffstat May 16 18:13:18 cbrake_: or text2html May 16 18:13:30 zecke: hrw: yes that is it -- missing diffstat May 16 18:13:39 but it is printed nicely in the lower right corner May 16 18:13:40 pb__: have you found more breakage? May 16 18:14:38 cbrake_: dev. machine added one thing to my list of things to write - 'how to use OE to build needed native tools' - will write it soon and announce on OE ML May 16 18:16:49 NOTE: Applying patch 'oz-logo-240.patch' May 16 18:16:49 NOTE: package linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r29: task do_patch: completed May 16 18:16:55 collie build going.. May 16 18:17:52 koen: ping May 16 18:18:06 koen: should we put 'jumbo' files into the documentation branch? May 16 18:19:11 hrw: neat idea -- reduces dependencies on host system. May 16 18:20:15 cbrake: MACHINE=native DISTRO=generic do many things - I use it to develop OPIE on my desktop May 16 18:20:33 2.6.16-r29 built for all Zaurus models May 16 18:26:15 hrw: that is really useful. The symmetry of OE makes some pretty neat things possible. May 16 18:27:00 cbrake: basically I was thinking more about it for getting tools without mailing admin ;) May 16 18:27:16 cbrake: screen, mc, vim, diffstat May 16 18:29:01 hrw: heh, yeah that is one way to do it. May 16 18:29:03 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r29077126... 10/packages/linux/ (5 files in 2 dirs): May 16 18:29:03 linux-openzaurus: added new OpenZaurus logo for all models May 16 18:29:03 - logo was created by Sebastian 'xaos' Rosik May 16 18:29:03 - PNG and SVG versions: http://openzaurus.org/gfx-contest/xaos/ May 16 18:29:03 - kernel logo was made from logo01.svg (inversed colors) May 16 18:29:18 cu May 16 18:43:41 mickeyl: would you mind putting a 30mb file to the documentation? May 16 18:44:43 tbh, that doesn't sound like a good idea May 16 18:44:51 better put it online somewhere May 16 18:44:53 which file btw.? May 16 18:45:00 a wink source file :} May 16 18:50:53 wb May 16 18:51:06 or for ex-amigans: loadwb :D May 16 18:55:10 ~lart me May 16 18:55:10 * ibot hooks into a hydrant and hoses hrw down May 16 18:55:23 I added logo patches but did not enabled logo... May 16 18:55:25 heh May 16 18:55:27 loadwb rocked May 16 18:57:00 mickeyl: when we will get OZ in 0.5M... May 16 18:57:06 :D May 16 18:57:16 FastMem? May 16 18:57:32 0.5M flash/rom May 16 18:58:33 hi rene May 16 18:58:48 hi hrw May 16 19:02:41 katossi: did you append your latest patch? May 16 19:07:04 cu May 16 19:10:44 hi all May 16 19:11:27 I've got this in .dev --> http://pastebin.com/721165 May 16 19:13:27 cedric_: take it up with the gpe folks May 16 19:15:36 zecke: never know if I'm posting oe or gpe... May 16 19:16:38 hi all May 16 19:17:09 cedric_: try :) May 16 19:17:35 cedric_: r0/gpesyncd/po/POTFILES.in: No such file or directory May 16 19:21:29 zecke: yep I've seen the error msg... May 16 19:22:10 is that file there? May 16 19:22:21 pb__: I will push this change now May 16 19:24:01 RP: how hard would it be to execute an ash with qemu? May 16 19:24:47 zecke: nope there is not such file in that directory... May 16 19:25:22 cedric_: cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gpe May 16 19:25:28 cedric_: and check if it is gone ;) May 16 19:26:23 is gcc 4.0.2 stable in OE? May 16 19:26:29 zecke: thx May 16 19:26:55 cedric_: no, meta-sdl will fail (secret knowledge) May 16 19:27:13 zecke: which one? May 16 19:28:04 katossi: pcmciautils May 16 19:28:10 * Philippe is back (gone 20:36:53) May 16 19:28:21 zecke: I'm trying to build an sdl game, compile fine under 3.x.x May 16 19:29:22 zecke: I forgot!! I've been messing with the .dev May 16 19:29:39 cedric_: I did not come around fixing SDL May 16 19:29:40 zecke: I can do it tomorrow, I have no access to my server now May 16 19:30:32 that would be nice May 16 19:30:40 zecke: :-) didn't ask... May 16 19:36:52 cedric_: it is on my todo May 16 19:38:18 zecke: ah ok, so which gcc people using on .dev? May 16 19:39:38 zecke: I won't forget, and sorry but I e been overworked May 16 19:40:06 cedric_: that depends ;) May 16 19:40:12 cedric_: the NSLU2 folks use gcc3.4.4 May 16 19:40:19 cedric_: familiar uses that as well May 16 19:40:35 cedric_: angstrom might already use 4.1 or 4.2 snapshots (as these will be done when Angstrom is released) May 16 19:40:56 and for OZ? May 16 19:40:59 hrw|gone: I have something for us May 16 19:41:08 cedric_: OZ in .dev is deprecated ;) May 16 19:41:22 cedric_: but it is up to the distributions to select their providers and versions May 16 19:42:55 zecke: ah ok, so to build a gpe image for my poodle (kernel 2.6), which distro should I use then? or should I move to the oz branch? May 16 19:43:25 cedric_: that depends, we need testers for .dev so stay there May 16 19:43:49 cedric_: but if you want something that is - as of today - more guranteed to produce workable images use the oz354x brancht May 16 19:44:04 zecke: compiler tester... LOL May 16 19:44:06 cedric_: but this will not feature the latest and most experimental software May 16 19:44:34 so I should stay in dev May 16 19:45:48 I think this will be appreciated by the GPE devs :) May 16 19:45:59 cedric_: and ask someone from gpe to fix their gpesyncd May 16 19:46:26 zecke, cedric_ seems to already have reported the issue... :-) May 16 19:46:33 in #gpe May 16 19:46:50 Philippe: ah it went unnoticed May 16 19:46:55 yep May 16 19:47:03 Philippe: did you tell him to use Opie? May 16 19:47:28 ~lart wink May 16 19:47:28 * ibot nabs the moon and broadsides wink with the sea of tranquility May 16 19:47:29 zecke: to me? May 16 19:47:59 zecke, nope :-) I just don't know anything about the syncing so did not think it would matter if I replied... May 16 19:48:00 no May 16 19:48:17 Philippe: it looks like a bug in the Makefile.am or any .m4 file May 16 19:48:47 zecke, pastebin is still loading.... seems to be a really big report (or general pastebin slowness) May 16 19:51:06 I hate wink May 16 19:51:48 zecke: The issue with qemu is having a filesystem that the script will like... May 16 19:52:03 hi RP May 16 19:52:17 RP: using qemu linux emulation :) May 16 19:52:33 like bitbake qemu-shell May 16 19:52:57 you could then run anything from the rootfs May 16 19:53:13 (or we need binfmt support) May 16 19:54:54 zecke: In theory, yes May 16 19:55:44 RP: did u done any testing with pentagram? May 16 19:56:10 cedric_: No, I never found time :-( May 16 19:56:46 RP: time it's the problem... May 16 19:56:52 cedric_: How are you finding stability of poodle suspend/resume? May 16 19:57:16 or of 2.6 in general :) May 16 19:58:00 try to build a new image at the moment, so far so good, I haven't test at all the coredump changes May 16 19:59:02 I need to test it with an intensive application/game May 16 19:59:02 cedric_: I'll aim to get those poodle changes cleaned up and into 2.6.18.. May 16 20:00:03 RP: nice, you look like a busy man RP, do u go on holiday sometime? May 16 20:00:29 cedric_: Hopefully sometime soon ;-) May 16 20:00:37 * RP needs a holiday May 16 20:01:14 RP: how about a 2 day break in London this October ;) May 16 20:01:30 lrg: What happens then? May 16 20:01:37 Linux world May 16 20:02:02 london? May 16 20:02:04 lrg: aha :). I'm not thinking that far ahead... May 16 20:02:12 OE booth? May 16 20:02:24 is that holiday? :-) May 16 20:02:26 lrg: A year since we started the alliance :) May 16 20:02:46 RP: yes, it's almost there now :) May 16 20:03:37 lrg: Its wonderful on the Zaurus :) May 16 20:03:45 I actually got a new toy last week which has been keeping me busy - a new motorbike... May 16 20:04:21 nice May 16 20:04:22 RP: ah, I've also got new toys to keep me busy. baseband modems and bluetooth. May 16 20:04:38 RP: is it a scrambler ? May 16 20:05:13 lrg: No, nowhere you can use them around here. Its a sports bike (Daytona 675) May 16 20:05:19 1,000 miles of running in to do... May 16 20:05:42 ah, at least the road tax will be cheap :) May 16 20:06:12 lrg: Its more expensive than my car as I don't pay road tax on that ;-) May 16 20:06:42 RP: 6 months RT for my 18 yrs old merc is £96 :( May 16 20:08:19 My 16 year old 400 was about £35, the 675 is sixty something (i think) and the 34 year old MG is free May 16 20:08:19 RP: you could always run it in by coming up to Edinburgh. Your welcome to stay as my guest (I have spare rooms) May 16 20:09:43 lrg: I'll keep it in mind, thanks. May 16 20:23:04 koen: ping May 16 20:24:52 say I have a board that has a 2.4 kernel. I can't flash a 2.6 kernel because the board accepts max. 512K for the kernel. can kexec help? do i need to compile a special 2.4 to get kexec work? May 16 20:25:12 http://handhelds.org/~zecke/org.openembedded.htm May 16 20:25:23 mickey|tv: lab ;) May 16 20:25:50 mickey|tv: but yes kexec can help! May 16 20:26:07 zecke: i have to use that boot loader that is already on the board May 16 20:26:14 no source for it May 16 20:26:35 mickey|tv: Can you flash a minimal 2.6 kernel with enough support to kexec a big 2.6 kernel? May 16 20:26:50 zecke: sweet! :) May 16 20:26:58 mickey|tv: or compile enough of the 2.6 kernel as modules to get below the 512k limit? May 16 20:27:23 RP: I need to try that. I haven't put everything modular yet, but I doubt I can get below 512k May 16 20:27:36 It is tight :-/ May 16 20:27:37 how about 2.4 ? May 16 20:27:42 is there a kexec patch for 2.4?` May 16 20:27:50 I honestly don't know May 16 20:28:07 is there a large demand for a arm/zaurus bootloader? May 16 20:28:17 JoeSchmo: large no. demand, yes May 16 20:28:19 imo May 16 20:28:28 s/a/an open source/ May 16 20:28:55 It would have to offer something different to the existing ones... May 16 20:29:01 i'll throw it in the pile of code to write May 16 20:31:29 is sash working on uboot? May 16 20:32:24 cedric_: sash has it working May 16 20:32:56 mickey|tv: do you think, this style of tutorials can help? May 16 20:33:03 of course May 16 20:33:12 * mickey|tv likes it May 16 20:33:19 bbl, commercial break is over May 16 20:33:25 * zecke presses the donate button for mickeyl May 16 20:33:57 RP: have u test it? May 16 20:34:30 cedric_: No, and I don't have plans to as I don't have the time to look into it properly May 16 20:34:54 fair enough May 16 20:39:13 nite all May 16 20:46:39 * chouimat is away: stuff to do May 16 20:47:04 zecke: pong (over a slow gprs link, 120km from home) May 16 20:47:18 oh, watch the movie tomorrow :} May 16 20:47:53 the org.oe.htm one? May 16 20:54:38 yes May 16 20:56:30 will do when I get home tomorrow May 16 20:56:46 or the day after that May 16 20:57:31 what movie are you talking about? org.oe.htm? May 16 20:57:59 http://handhelds.org/~zecke/org.openembedded.htm May 16 21:01:26 zecke: I think I'll have some free time during work tomorrow to work on the docs May 16 21:01:50 depending how fast the trainees pick up the things they are supposed to learn May 16 21:03:00 'night all May 16 21:04:15 koen: good night May 16 21:14:01 we have more than one head? May 16 21:14:16 merging anyone? May 16 21:14:22 I will do May 16 21:14:54 yepp, I will merge May 16 21:15:27 funny, I updated like 10 min ago and had no problem.... matter of fact, I've not had a multiple head warning in forever... May 16 21:15:33 so, good work everyone, and thanks May 16 21:15:51 Zero_Chaos: it is like this for the last three hours? :} May 16 21:15:52 but .dev May 16 21:16:16 zecke: I updated my .oz354x and .dev... with no issue... odd May 16 21:16:25 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/headofbranch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev May 16 21:16:49 zecke: you got nothing to prove to me man... I trust you, just saying it worked for me and that is funny May 16 21:17:02 oh, wait... it did have multiple heads May 16 21:17:04 :-P May 16 21:17:06 Zero_Chaos: no proof :) May 16 21:17:20 my jedi skills told me that May 16 21:34:40 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r676461aa... 10/packages/gcc/ (12 files in 7 dirs): (log message trimmed) May 16 21:34:40 packages/gcc: May 16 21:34:40 Hack to make me rich and famous. Patch versions 3.4.4, May 16 21:34:40 4.0.0, 4.0.2, 4.1.0, 4.1.0-snapshot, 4.2-snapshot and May 16 21:34:40 activate the hack when cross compiling. May 16 21:34:41 gcc will abort if you call it with -I/usr/include or May 16 21:34:43 -I/opt/include or -I/sw/include. May 16 21:34:45 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * rb6c6262d... 10/conf/bitbake.conf: (log message trimmed) May 16 21:34:49 conf/bitbake.conf: May 16 21:34:51 Use -isystem instead of -I for the staging incdir. May 16 21:34:53 This will make the staging directory to be the May 16 21:34:55 last one in the include chain, this should make all May 16 21:34:57 'local' includes be handled first and only then we will May 16 21:34:59 fall back to the staging directory. May 16 21:35:01 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r9e3733eb... 10/conf/bitbake.conf: May 16 21:35:03 conf/bitbake.conf: May 16 21:35:05 Add an alternative OVERRIDES line to enable my gcc hacks to May 16 21:35:07 make things fail fast. May 16 21:40:02 zecke: ooh, i like the use of isystem. good stuff. lots of the packages atm resulted in wrong include search ordering, picking up old headers in staging before its own. May 16 21:40:05 ~praise zecke May 16 21:40:08 All hail zecke! May 16 21:40:19 re May 16 21:44:06 kergoth: I plan to hack -lsystem ;) May 16 21:44:20 kergoth: and gcc now errors when using -I/usr/include May 16 21:44:21 hehe May 16 21:44:24 nice May 16 21:45:00 andersee: I have an uclibc hack for 'gcc' May 16 21:45:06 tough stuff. will get us lots of new bug reports, but will improve our QA May 16 21:45:22 mickey|tv: gcc is not enabled by default :} May 16 21:45:30 mickey|tv: it broke bluez already May 16 21:45:32 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r81c701fb... 10/packages/pipepanic/ (files/fix-datadir.patch pipepanic_0.1.1.bb): pipepanic: fix datadir to look in /usr/share/pipepanic, ship pixmaps May 16 21:45:58 zecke: oh? May 16 21:46:01 zecke: do tell May 16 21:46:19 andersee: when building gcc with uclibc May 16 21:46:26 andersee: it is using /usr/bin/cpp as pre compiler May 16 21:46:30 haha May 16 21:46:47 heh May 16 21:46:58 i really wish we had someone (or more) caring about uclibc in OE May 16 21:47:00 *sigh* May 16 21:47:16 I have some X and fontconfig changes... May 16 21:47:27 ~lart keithp May 16 21:47:27 * ibot squishes keithp like a bug May 16 21:47:46 he puts CFLAGS to the host tools... May 16 21:48:10 this breaks when mixing glibc and uclibc for arm :} May 16 21:49:04 njs: could you add a 'monotone duff' command? May 16 21:49:22 njs: taken 'beer, man, moe, calendar' May 16 21:49:30 andersee: hi, now uclibc will remain broken ;) May 16 21:49:41 andersee: gcc uses /usr/bin/cpp as preprocessor May 16 21:49:45 zecke: sorry about that May 16 21:49:47 zecke: I'm back May 16 21:49:52 andersee: and thanks to autotools May 16 21:50:09 andersee: it thinks that my uclibc has support for iconv and two other things... May 16 21:50:23 andersee: as calling /usr/bin/cpp worked and only compiling failed May 16 21:50:30 (I have a mean hack to avoid this)... May 16 21:54:58 but there is still much to fix in OE and the hh.org GUIs to make uclibc builds work May 16 21:55:08 moving to bed now May 16 21:55:22 mickey|tv: basicly all AMD builds fail already due this -I/usr/include bug May 16 21:58:33 kergoth: do you still have the docbook for your old OE manual? May 16 21:59:10 kergoth: drop me the source if you have it :) May 16 22:01:59 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r3ed37f72... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 22:01:59 usermanual: May 16 22:01:59 Make make html work again by substituting with May 16 22:01:59 also indent the document... May 16 22:02:03 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r8980ff61... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 22:02:03 usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 22:02:04 run aspell making thinks better but surely worse... May 16 22:02:06 stick to: cross-compile and run-time but still use prebuilt... May 16 22:02:08 we need someone with writing skills May 16 22:02:12 03freyther 07org.oe.documentation * r9fad9789... 10/usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 22:02:14 usermanual/usermanual.xml: May 16 22:02:16 Remove the one too many May 16 22:20:19 https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/sfmain/do/viewProject/projects.sd-mmc;jsessionid=74F1DDD29F0BFAF9854EEA1D9C335E96 May 16 22:20:57 motorola releases SD drivers... May 16 22:23:29 Philippe: Unbelievable.. won't they be sued by the SD IP owners? May 16 22:23:45 It's a bloody good thing regardless. May 16 22:25:53 NAbyss, I am surprised indeed... May 16 22:26:03 they claim however it is perfectly okay. May 16 22:32:08 Ah well, tis good May 16 22:37:38 which sharp would do that, so my darn collie could get a new sd driver... May 16 23:08:16 zwelch: pung May 16 23:09:39 Galik: really, seriously? :) May 16 23:09:51 hehe May 16 23:09:59 how are your servers? May 16 23:10:35 zwelch: have you recovered all that old zynot data yet? May 16 23:10:41 they all finally died this year, but i replaced their dead power supplies; they are back up and good May 16 23:10:56 Galik: ah, right, you were looking for the wiki content, yah? May 16 23:11:12 yeps :) May 16 23:11:24 oh good, my memory isn't entirely faliable ;) May 16 23:12:22 * zwelch wonders what that word means, as he just discoverd his dictionary doesn't know about it :/ May 16 23:13:04 darn vocabulary; there is just too much of it to go around May 16 23:13:50 Hmmm faliable sounds like a word to me. It should be a word. May 16 23:14:00 so, the question is: what data do you want? May 16 23:14:22 well, i swore that it was, but the dictionary usually knows more words than i do; not the other way around ;) May 16 23:14:37 Well really just a few of the pages but it would be nice to hunt through it all. Do you have the entire wiki? May 16 23:14:48 i think so May 16 23:14:54 it it big? May 16 23:15:13 well, yes i do; it's just "where exactly" might take some time to answer May 16 23:15:27 let's see; we had a moinmoin wiki... May 16 23:15:29 that was not big May 16 23:15:33 * Galik waits patiently May 16 23:16:08 Btw. You need a good C++ Logging library? May 16 23:16:26 pmsg me your email and i send you a tarball of the wiki May 16 23:16:40 maybe. May 16 23:17:18 where is it, and why would i want to integrate it with the VoIP client that I am helping to develop (minisip.org)? May 16 23:17:50 (which, incidentally, has been built with OE, though not yet by myself) May 16 23:18:33 Galik: you might take a look a the current SVN trunk for libmutil and see if it would make a good "fit" with our code May 16 23:18:48 it == your logging library May 16 23:19:06 http://sourceforge.net/projects/logplusplus/ May 16 23:19:07 personally, the debugging infrastructure needs significant improvements May 16 23:19:32 it's light weight, easy to use and very fashonable... May 16 23:20:01 heh May 16 23:20:21 * zwelch wonders if he could convince you to have the project subsumed into the minisip project May 16 23:20:53 so you really need some logging? May 16 23:21:14 When dhcp does its thing, what creates /var/run/resolv.conf? May 16 23:21:18 i.e. there will be many re-usable libraries maintained in that project's SVN; I am currently its Build Master May 16 23:22:12 Galik: but there's no question that we need better logging/debugging infrastructure May 16 23:22:19 bah the batterys going flat... May 16 23:22:38 * Galik is looking at the download... May 16 23:24:08 zwelch: I'll take a look at it. Looks interesting. May 16 23:25:50 Galik: be sure to use the latest SVN trunk; there hasn't been a release in ages. I am working to help lead the project toward one. May 16 23:26:09 anyway, the whole (unpruned) wiki tarball is 4MB May 16 23:26:55 Thats not very big. mailit :) May 16 23:27:11 * Galik is checking out the source... May 16 23:27:12 no zecke this morning? May 16 23:30:51 Galik: okay, i'm sending off of the CLI using the following command: { echo "From: ..."; echo "To: ..."; echo "Subject: zynot wiki tarball"; echo; uuencode zynot-wiki.tar.gz /dev/stdout; } |sendmail ... May 16 23:31:02 let me know if you can't uudecode it properly :) May 16 23:31:12 k May 16 23:31:37 * Galik runs to his e-mail... May 16 23:34:05 zwelch: heh the build instructions seem out of date... May 16 23:35:48 zwelch: lol. the attachment u sent was called "/dev/stdout" May 16 23:36:14 However when renames to dev-stdout.tar.gz it works fine :) May 16 23:38:00 Galik: hehe... that's the first time i ever tried such a pipeline :) I'm happy it worked at all, quirks aside :) May 16 23:39:05 however, i used to do stuff like that all the time in the early 90's, when sun4's where the new toys at New Mexico Tech's computer lab ;) May 16 23:39:34 (they were new to me then, at any rate) May 16 23:40:16 So this VOIP thing is goint to make using mobiles cheeper then? May 16 23:40:17 the question that i am wondering is: what is the modern replacement for uu{en,de}code? e.g. a base64 version. May 16 23:40:56 Galik: i make no such promises; the telco carriers are more likely to destroy VoIP by trying to profit from it themselves May 16 23:41:39 howveer, you can imagine building your own mobile phone that uses wifi to connect to public hotspots May 16 23:41:58 with TLS, filtering becomes more problematic ;) May 16 23:42:14 zwelch: prolly. I dont know how it works over there but here we pay by the kilobyte for GPRS data transfer in either direction. And its well expensive. May 16 23:42:16 however, RTP is just too easy to block May 16 23:42:40 exactly, and why do they do that? because if they didn't, you would be using VoIP over the data link? :) May 16 23:42:57 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams May 16 23:43:36 zwelch: one day wifi will be available free in every city, then what will they do? :) May 16 23:44:01 cry over the milk they helped to spill May 16 23:44:47 .. then, cry to the government to regulate wifi. protectionism of the telcos is likely to prevail over free market capitalism May 16 23:45:15 i *really* hate to say that, but look at the history of every major industry and... well... you do the math May 16 23:46:32 Yes maybe I should stop being naive and realise that wifi will *never* be free in every city.... :/ May 16 23:48:17 bah compile hase bommed... May 16 23:50:06 okay, join #minisip... i'll commit fixes as soon as we find them May 16 23:50:44 * zwelch encourages others in this channel to look at minisip.org and join that channel as well.... contributors are welcome! :) May 16 23:52:51 looks gtk based! May 16 23:53:18 reminds me of ekiga May 17 00:08:10 yeah it would be nice if voip would become free but it wont in canada May 17 00:08:30 the nice "protocol filter" companies are making sure of it May 17 00:09:10 by inserting corrupt data into competetor's data streams May 17 00:10:31 the only case i know of here where they use it is to introduce problems into skype to push vonage May 17 00:10:42 (use it here) May 17 00:46:57 JoeSchmo: yes, it has a gtk front-end; however, the system is incredibly modular. there are also traces of a QT front end, and ncurses. any other option is possible, with enough effort May 17 00:47:17 emte: wow, that actually sounds criminal May 17 00:47:27 i.e. if you could prove it, that's got to be illegal May 17 00:48:09 if it's not, well, I'll just take that as evidence that fascism has taken a firmer hold in this country than i had previously imagined May 17 00:48:21 * zwelch shudders May 17 00:48:31 zwelch, naa, competive marketing ;) May 17 00:48:51 no, it's a common carrier. this is definitely against the "public interest" May 17 00:49:29 that's like building spike strips in a tollway that only activate for certain models of cars May 17 00:49:52 i mean, it's completely outrageous corporate behavior May 17 00:50:01 unbelievable, really May 17 00:50:19 .... which makes it so much more terrifying if it's actually true May 17 01:17:39 zwelch, hey, how ya been? May 17 01:19:01 zwelch, its based on product theft/fraud May 17 01:19:33 since voip circumvents long distance which happens to be most telcos cash cow May 17 01:21:19 kergoth: yo bro! :) May 17 01:21:54 emte: right, their motivation is clear; they use government regulation to enforce their cartel status. May 17 01:22:41 i.e. they can make such blatently unethical behavior legal, and there's nothing anyone can do about it because (the US) govn't is excempt from its own anti-trust regulations May 17 01:23:29 kergoth: still struggling to make it alone in a world dominated by big business.... you? :) May 17 01:24:21 * zwelch has done a lot of reading about real free market capitalism since he last saw kergoth ;) May 17 01:26:21 at the moment, i'm working with the minisip project for various nefarious reasons; more generally, i am trying to become a SIP-based VoIP expert May 17 01:27:08 i just got my development kit from digium, so i expect to have my home PBX up soon. i can't wait to send my first telemarketer to its torture script :) May 17 01:28:25 anyway, i'm hanging out here again because the primary developer has used/is using OE with minisip May 17 01:28:37 i'll be helping with that effort over time May 17 02:04:02 Hello ! May 17 02:45:38 hmm... how do I make bitbake use its own automake flags and not the ones that come with an app's source May 17 02:58:42 CSMan, i am not sure your question makes sense May 17 02:59:26 the only way bitbake will not use it's own flags are if the source has then hard coded May 17 02:59:37 in which case they will need to be patched to behave May 17 02:59:52 s/then/them May 17 03:02:16 emte: i removed inherit autotools May 17 03:03:00 emte: but let's say i'm trying to port an app, how do I make bitbake use the app's configure file? May 17 03:03:28 should I include a ./configure line in the do_configure() block ? May 17 03:16:32 CSMan, if its an autotools package, inherit autotools will ensure that everything happens correctly. you dont want to remove it if it is May 17 03:16:45 zwelch, ah, sip and the like is cool stuff. did a fair bit of work with it when i was working for a small network appliance manufacturer a while back. good luck with it :) May 17 03:17:13 zwelch, havent touched oe myself in like a year and a half, other than occasionally poking at it to check the progress. its performance has improved substantially, thank goodness May 17 03:20:58 kergoth: autotools is not needed, it's just a plain ./configure ;make app May 17 03:21:49 when i try to bitbake -b nbtscan.bb -cconfigure it won't run the configure file May 17 03:23:39 CSMan, hm? May 17 03:23:50 having a ./configure generally means it uses autotools May 17 03:24:00 unless its a homebrewed scripot May 17 03:24:05 which is fairly rare May 17 03:24:56 kergoth: ok, i'll take a look at that file May 17 03:26:21 kergoth: right, there autotools stuff there, but some flags are not compatible with oe's autotools May 17 03:26:33 sounds like a .patch May 17 03:29:20 CSMan, ? May 17 03:29:35 flags? May 17 03:30:36 kergoth: it's trying to use the host's automake May 17 03:30:39 =/ May 17 03:31:34 what makes you think that? May 17 03:31:43 oe puts its staging bindir first, it will be using ours. May 17 03:33:34 kergoth: when it goes into do_configure i get this error http://pastebin.ca/56500 May 17 03:35:25 sounds like you're doing something wrong, like calling out bitbake -f to build a specific file rather than obeying deps, or its just a bug resulting in autotools-native not being built. could try building it. May 17 03:38:24 autotools-native is not built that's right May 17 03:38:28 * CSMan builds May 17 03:38:39 kergoth: cool, cool. May 17 03:39:06 * CSMan builds @ 233mhz May 17 03:39:09 =P May 17 04:10:06 anyone have a favorite rtc chip they like? May 17 04:10:19 what do you mean ? May 17 04:10:57 real time clock May 17 04:19:21 I know May 17 04:19:32 But what do you mean by "favorite chip" ????? May 17 04:22:48 one taht you like to use in applications needing an rtc May 17 04:22:51 that* May 17 04:28:00 once a driver is written, one rtc is much like another. May 17 04:28:07 standard interface for it May 17 04:28:26 or did you mean which do you prefer coding for at bare metal? writing the driver? May 17 04:34:04 using May 17 04:34:08 but your right May 17 04:34:19 its i2c, onewire, or spi May 17 04:34:52 dallas/maxim's stupid online ordering is mangled May 17 04:35:09 any of those should be painless to code for, interface wise May 17 04:35:22 ti has some but i really dont want/need 24 pins May 17 04:35:51 time to google i guess May 17 04:36:34 ooo May 17 04:36:37 st has some now May 17 04:37:32 http://www.st.com/stonline/products/families/analog_and_mixed_signal/serial_real_time_clocks/rtcm41t.htm May 17 04:37:37 there is a yummy one May 17 04:37:59 350nA @3V ins standby May 17 04:38:24 with a 1.3-3.6V operating range May 17 04:38:58 oooo!!! it does tenths and 100ths May 17 04:39:17 morning May 17 04:40:12 Dallas/maxi has a lot of i2c/spi clocks May 17 04:41:02 yeah but online ordering page is mangled May 17 04:41:12 and i prefer to avoid using digikey May 17 04:41:53 i think i am gonna get this one May 17 04:41:55 http://www.st.com/stonline/products/families/analog_and_mixed_signal/serial_real_time_clocks/rct62.htm May 17 04:42:09 its a beautiful rtc May 17 04:43:06 * kergoth does perverse things with his vim setup May 17 04:43:47 * koen wonders why he got up a 6 am May 17 04:43:48 ~mornings May 17 04:43:50 Mornings MUST be destroyed! (see also http://www.destroymornings.com/) May 17 04:44:21 amte: Havn't used this. In general i prefer Maxim/dallas as the are easier to source in sample or small quantities May 17 04:44:32 koen : hi May 17 04:44:55 hey Ifaistos May 17 04:44:57 * emte shrugges May 17 04:45:20 the dallas rtc have a few annoying traits and this one is better suited May 17 04:45:32 emte : :) May 17 06:22:48 | Size is 1071008 May 17 06:22:48 | FATAL: This kernel is too big for your Collie and will not be flashed. Please reduce the size of the kernel by making more of it modular. May 17 06:22:57 ;) May 17 06:59:30 * hrw goes to work - cu May 17 07:01:19 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r9e53b4a0... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.16/ (3 files): dropped unused wifi patches/hacks May 17 07:01:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r5b20c3e4... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus.inc: linux-openzaurus: added kernel size check for collie May 17 07:01:27 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r45f00724... 10/packages/linux/ (7 files in 2 dirs): May 17 07:01:27 linux-openzaurus: enabled logo for c7x0, akita, spitz, tosa, poodle May 17 07:01:27 - collie does not get logo as its kernel need booting config first May 17 07:01:27 - also added one CF memory card to pcmcia ids - Ecco@#openzaurus May 17 07:03:35 bonjour May 17 07:24:56 morning May 17 07:45:52 morning May 17 07:46:42 hi CoreDump|home May 17 07:46:51 CoreDump|home: r30 kernel got logo May 17 07:47:02 very nice May 17 07:47:14 want to test? May 17 07:48:02 yeah May 17 07:49:51 CoreDump|home: flash it: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc4/zImage-2.6.16-poodle-20060516194155.bin May 17 07:50:12 will do May 17 07:59:51 hey, rsync is failing to pull because they released a new version and put all the old files in a different folder on the server... would it be worth my time to write a decent version-checker into the build file for it to determine the correct url? May 17 08:00:44 or would it be better to just change the url in the file so it will only work with the old versions and not current? I'm not sure if oe will move to the current any time soon anyway :/ May 17 08:03:07 if the .bb builds a fixed version (as in rsync_${PV}.bb) changing the bb is the way to go May 17 08:03:33 if someone wants to latest stuff they'll hack to hack their own bb anyway May 17 08:03:42 ok then May 17 08:04:06 morning all May 17 08:04:53 morning ade|desk May 17 08:06:38 also, should ncurses be requiring glibc? :P May 17 08:06:53 * CoreDump|home dunnos May 17 08:07:00 rm_you: ncurses need libc but not viceversa May 17 08:07:25 well, it failed to build at first because it didnt try to include anything that would build the cross-compiler May 17 08:07:42 so i built some other random package that included the cross-compiler and now it builds. May 17 08:08:09 rm_you: log problems with wrong deps May 17 08:50:52 ~ewi May 17 08:50:54 somebody said ewi was ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl - main backup server for OE monotone. Hosts database snapshot: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/OE.db.bz2 May 17 08:50:59 * hrw|work got 1201 revs to pull May 17 09:02:05 hrw|work: Ouch.. May 17 09:05:56 NAbyss: fetching snapshot May 17 09:08:12 hrw|work: have you seen the flash tutoriak May 17 09:08:42 zecke: yes - its awesome May 17 09:09:08 hrw|work: wink is easy, if you failed :) May 17 09:09:11 zecke: local.conf too complicated anyway - DL_DIR/BBFILES/MACHINE/DISTRO should be enough - rest is in machine/distro config May 17 09:11:05 for the next time May 17 09:11:14 hrw|work: next topic will be either adding GNU hello May 17 09:12:21 hrw|work: or working with BB collections May 17 09:12:29 hrw|work: I will update the manual section on hh.org May 17 09:12:51 collections is nice thing and one of least used things May 17 09:15:11 need brave clamshell users May 17 09:23:39 I just edited the "Create local configuration" section of GettingStarted to clarify (hopefully ;) ) the requirement for GCC 2.95.3 for Zaurus kernels May 17 09:25:01 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r1cb2ff59... 10/packages/libopie/ (libopie2-1.2.1/poodle-2.6-hotkeys.patch libopie2_1.2.1.bb): libopie: Poodle: Fix Calendar and Address hotkeys for kernel 2.6 May 17 09:25:05 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r5ae0815f... 10/packages/libopie/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libopie: Poodle: Fix Calendar and Address hotkeys for kernel 2.6 May 17 09:25:52 JustinP: will try May 17 09:36:20 grr uclibc is a pain atm with gcc4 May 17 09:36:38 not even buildroot is playing nicely May 17 09:37:38 ade|desk: oh, gcc 4.0.2 should at least compile with uclibc May 17 09:37:45 ade|desk: working, I don't know May 17 09:38:23 hmm if you dont build gcj,fortran,c++ and er... c perhaps May 17 09:53:06 * ade|desk tries buildroot toolchaining lets hope for light at the end of the build :) May 17 09:59:35 aligned mem access May 17 09:59:37 *finally* May 17 09:59:45 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r67867ecb... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: sync with .dev changes, updated hostap patch May 17 09:59:49 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6b7b70fe... 10/packages/linux/linux-openzaurus.inc: linux-openzaurus: added check for collie kernel size May 17 09:59:53 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc938b488... 10/packages/linux/ (9 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) May 17 09:59:53 linux-openzaurus: sync with last changes in .oz354x May 17 09:59:53 - enabled logo for c7x0, akita, spitz, tosa, poodle May 17 09:59:53 - collie does not get logo as its kernel need booting config first May 17 09:59:54 - logo was created by Sebastian 'xaos' Rosik May 17 09:59:57 - PNG and SVG versions: http://openzaurus.org/gfx-contest/xaos/ **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed May 17 09:59:57 2006