**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 21 09:59:56 2006 May 21 10:00:05 polyonymous: not yet, eating breakfast ATM May 21 10:00:15 polyonymous: you could pastebin your local.conf now May 21 10:00:22 Great, I'll go for it now myself ;-) May 21 10:01:10 zecke, forget about it, I've taken a look at my local.conf myself now ;-)))))))))) I think I know what's it ;-) May 21 10:01:23 hehe May 21 10:02:13 although, I've had this or similar problem before my local.conf became what it is now, so we'll see... May 21 10:03:22 polyonymous: might clean gcc first May 21 10:03:32 zecke, of course. May 21 10:03:51 doesn't 'rebuild gcc-cross' wipe it out? May 21 10:06:13 nwhat is rebuild? some shell magic? May 21 10:06:56 yeah, looks like I'm the only one who uses shell ;-) May 21 10:07:33 ah bitbake shell May 21 10:07:44 some put rebuild in their bash May 21 10:07:47 yes, bitbake shell. May 21 10:08:04 I see. No, I don't use aliases much except for on Z ;-) May 21 10:09:37 rebuild() {} not much an alias May 21 10:09:53 polyonymous: what did your local.conf contain? May 21 10:11:37 I've been trying to set HAS_GFORTRAN and FORTRAN explicitly there. Don't remember why, but it was HAS_GFORTRAN = and FORTRAN_arm = , probably that's why HAS_GFORTRAN was overridden by gcc4-build.inc, but FORTRAN wasn't. May 21 10:12:08 But I thought I had both of them commented out when I was pestering you ;-) May 21 10:13:23 lesson: If you stick things in from behind it will refuse to work :) May 21 10:14:19 But still -- I was fooling around because it didn't work. It's just that I wasn't exploring the problem carefully. So I expect it to fail now, but I will look more closely at the cause if it does. May 21 10:15:50 my system is sooo slow :( May 21 10:16:17 so is mine ;-) I'll go `make -C aquarium clean` while it's compiling ;-) May 21 10:16:31 hehe May 21 10:17:22 lol http://www.desdeamericaconamor.org/blog/en/node/234 May 21 10:17:31 this is a reason not to licnse Gtk+ as LGPL May 21 10:32:42 Hello all May 21 10:50:36 mickeyl May 21 10:50:41 mickeyl: good afternoon May 21 10:52:46 hi May 21 10:53:34 Surprizingly it didn't fail. ;-) May 21 11:01:40 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r9f0cf5f9... 10/packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb: linux-ezx: change SRC_URI to fixed version of ezx6 patch May 21 11:07:00 mickeyl: hi May 21 11:07:03 morning May 21 11:14:33 hi May 21 11:26:55 all: which distro is known to work under qemu-arm? May 21 11:32:22 * CoreDump|home dunnos May 21 11:33:59 likewise: any, as long as you use matchbox/X11 May 21 11:34:14 likewise: and angstrom probably doesn't work due EABI May 21 11:35:42 zecke: I am about to test my yesterday work (trimming down the deps of librsvg), but I need a target. Ah well, I have an EP93xx here, maybe that will do. May 21 11:36:06 But qemu-arm is more widely available :-) May 21 12:02:23 ah here we are May 21 12:02:28 | CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include May 21 12:02:39 i thought you tested gpe-image? :D May 21 12:03:02 prismstumbler bails out May 21 12:03:37 :( May 21 12:03:55 mickeyl: follow the instructions, send a bug to the gcc people :} May 21 12:04:10 heh May 21 12:07:25 morning May 21 12:07:31 yo hrw May 21 12:07:42 5 keys left to sign... May 21 12:08:11 hehe May 21 12:08:42 kgpg suxx May 21 12:09:09 why kde devels does not use any subthreads? May 21 12:09:35 select key, sign, wait for gui to be refreshed as sign of signing finished May 21 12:09:40 lame May 21 12:09:46 hrw: they start to use it May 21 12:10:02 zecke: in kde 4.2? May 21 12:10:09 yeah :) May 21 12:10:16 they have waited for Dual Cores :} May 21 12:10:34 sure May 21 12:10:49 amarok 1.4 got option which req 8 core cpu May 21 12:11:04 'moodbar' May 21 12:12:53 hi hrw May 21 12:13:32 hi CoreDump|home May 21 12:13:51 CoreDump|home: cf card got mounted as /dev/hda (unusable) - any ideas? May 21 12:14:04 hrw: yeah, fstab expects hda1 May 21 12:14:08 not hda May 21 12:14:15 so the auto-mounter takes over May 21 12:18:04 * hrw need to replace fusebox May 21 12:24:41 koen: hi. ewi was/is offline May 21 12:25:00 koen: stefan_schmit in #openezx wanted to grab a OE-db snap :) May 21 12:25:08 I know it's offline May 21 12:25:17 k May 21 12:27:17 koen: :( May 21 12:27:52 zecke: indeed May 21 12:28:50 Google is evil :} May 21 12:29:51 uhm May 21 12:30:04 where does that "applications below this line..." come from? May 21 12:30:17 hh.org only got 5 slots May 21 12:30:23 that sucks May 21 12:30:26 :/ May 21 12:30:33 bye bye OE improvement projects May 21 12:30:38 koen: do you know why that happend? May 21 12:30:38 *sigh* May 21 12:30:51 why did they gave us more in the beginning? May 21 12:30:56 zecke: maybe because some mentors abused the ranking? May 21 12:31:12 no, I don't think this applies May 21 12:31:48 mickeyl: do you still need a DB snapshot? May 21 12:32:13 CoreDump|home: yes, at least until we use mtn 0.26 May 21 12:32:22 http://hentges.net/tmp/OE.db.gz <- about 1hrs old May 21 12:32:29 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd744e786... 10/packages/prismstumbler/ (2 files in 2 dirs): prismstumbler 0.7.3 fix host includes in gpsd subdir May 21 12:32:42 inlcudes .dev .oz354x and the fam fork May 21 12:33:50 CoreDump|home: cool, thanks. I'll forward it May 21 12:34:05 np May 21 12:34:16 5 projects.. May 21 12:34:30 I'm curious who from gpe team will co-mentor pim one May 21 12:37:40 hrw: the person who said "I'ld like to mentor this one" May 21 12:37:52 if there isn't such a thing -> no-one May 21 12:38:13 koen: read soc ML on hh.org May 21 12:39:10 hrw: I'm not subscribed to that May 21 12:40:00 I was thinking of giving Dan Williams of someone else from Opie the May 21 12:40:00 unified db proj and having either you, Nils or Phil be the GPE mentor on May 21 12:40:00 that project. I want buy-in from both environments. May 21 12:40:08 Erik post May 21 12:43:51 hrw: seen my mindate problem in backlog? May 21 12:44:18 saw May 21 12:44:55 k. perhaps i'll add a test into sanity.conf about SRCDATE > DATE. sane people shouldn't do it May 21 12:45:48 yep May 21 13:32:41 ~seen rp May 21 13:32:59 rp is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus #handhelds.org. Has said a total of 149 messages. Is idling for 3d 1h 3m 26s, last said: 'mickeyl: Agreed, a phone in OE would be great'. May 21 13:34:35 morning May 21 13:35:00 morning chouimat May 21 14:28:59 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rdf92eb77... 10/packages/gcc/gcc_4.0.2.bb: gcc 4.0.2 disable fortran here as well May 21 14:30:02 oh May 21 14:30:49 mickeyl: why disable fortran ? May 21 14:30:55 because it doesn't build May 21 14:31:11 "can't build fortran when libgmp misses MPR support" May 21 14:31:12 (or so) May 21 14:31:36 fortran... never had to learn it May 21 14:33:13 hrw only used for specific mathemtical problems May 21 14:33:26 ~lart oesf.org May 21 14:33:27 * ibot declares oesf.org a moron May 21 14:33:43 coredump what happend? May 21 14:33:54 it's offline again May 21 14:35:05 OpenEmbedded Special Forces.org? May 21 14:36:08 koen *g* May 21 14:37:06 woglinde: I want my iPAQ to solve specific math problems :) May 21 14:37:31 mickeyl: when does it miss mpr support? May 21 14:37:45 during configure May 21 14:37:57 and i noticed the other gcc versions also disabled fortran May 21 14:37:58 mickeyl: and why? which message, which test is ran? May 21 14:38:05 no idea May 21 14:39:06 fair enough May 21 14:41:50 koen: should have copyrighted that :-) May 21 14:42:27 OEBO: Open Embedded Black Ops? May 21 14:43:08 surely OEBB, Openembedded Black Belts May 21 14:43:16 :) May 21 14:43:30 maemo - mono also embedded maybe obsolete May 21 14:45:39 OE: "opening the embedded world to idiots" May 21 14:45:42 * koen hides May 21 14:45:54 no need to run May 21 14:45:59 better tools always attract more people May 21 14:46:05 * chouimat is away: food May 21 14:51:36 if Makefile.in has STRIP=@STRIP@ then how to make it 'arm-linux-strip' instead of 'strip'? May 21 14:52:05 fix the m4 or autoconf May 21 14:52:10 configure.in even May 21 14:52:11 remove that line? May 21 14:52:19 ya, or that May 21 14:55:56 ~lart apache May 21 14:55:57 * ibot nukes apache with a single large nuke May 21 14:56:17 koen: ewi? May 21 14:56:31 ok, next fast-fail breakage May 21 14:56:41 gpe-nmf May 21 14:56:44 fail-fast ;) May 21 14:56:48 ah right May 21 14:56:55 I removed nmf from my local tree May 21 14:57:03 ~lart me May 21 14:57:04 * ibot flings poo at koen May 21 14:59:26 hrw: in configure.ac you can put ... May 21 14:59:26 AC_CHECK_TOOL(STRIP, strip, :) May 21 15:00:10 mickeyl: we should put -B into the compiler line as well May 21 15:01:03 mickeyl: it looks like we can commit Justin's patch for 'now' handling May 21 15:01:06 what does that do? May 21 15:01:08 ah cool May 21 15:02:25 mickeyl: check gimp_2.3.7.bb for a very short fix for host includes May 21 15:02:26 mickeyl: -B it tells gcc where to search cc1 May 21 15:02:32 sounds handy May 21 15:02:39 mickeyl: currently bad things happen with pre-built toolchains May 21 15:02:51 that are built in /home/foo/oe/cross May 21 15:03:06 or /stuff/ :D May 21 15:04:25 config.log:db_cv_path_strip=/usr/bin/strip May 21 15:04:27 nasty May 21 15:05:09 we have it in site/arm-linux May 21 15:05:41 koen@bitbake:~/OE/monotone/org.openembedded.dev/site$ grep strip * | wc -l May 21 15:05:41 16 May 21 15:09:43 btw - does pcre builds with fast-fail gcc? May 21 15:10:12 you mean konq/e? May 21 15:10:17 yes May 21 15:11:19 NOTE: package pcre-4.4-r4: task do_package: started May 21 15:11:29 thx May 21 15:13:52 NOTE: package freenote-1.12.0-r0: task do_build: completed May 21 15:14:03 ~praise japanese folks for slowly realizing libsl should be avoided May 21 15:14:12 All hail japanese folks for slowly realizing libsl should be avoided! May 21 15:14:28 mickeyl: great! will have to check it in 354x May 21 15:14:30 s/libsl/qte/ May 21 15:15:02 hrw: could you put the mimedir-duration patch in .oz354x? May 21 15:15:11 I don't have a oz354x tree anymore to commit it myself May 21 15:16:34 I dont have oz354x builddir anywhere !ewi and ewi builds all fails on tinderbox - have to check configs May 21 15:17:27 hrw: rm_work INHERITED? May 21 15:18:18 no May 21 15:18:58 * zecke is heading to the gym now May 21 15:18:59 cya May 21 15:23:33 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r661a3100... 10/packages/ (13 files in 7 dirs): May 21 15:23:33 add freenote, an error correcting paint program for Opie. patch based on work by Enodr , thanks! closes May 21 15:23:33 #1018 May 21 15:23:38 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * re86a5666... 10/packages/meta/task-qpe.bb: task-qpe add freenote May 21 15:24:46 it'll probably suck on qvga May 21 15:25:01 like many apps May 21 15:25:21 mickeyl: did you saw my mileage hires shots? May 21 15:26:24 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/04/27/mileage-hires/ - click on thumbs (they are wrong scalled) May 21 15:28:13 ugly May 21 15:28:39 mickeyl: just ~55-60 QLayout boxes used May 21 15:28:52 or 'just' ;P May 21 15:30:43 it was hardly fixed to 240x320 May 21 15:33:33 Hi all May 21 15:33:41 hey dirk May 21 15:34:09 hi koen May 21 15:34:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r60c043fd... 10/packages/gimp/gimp_2.3.8.bb: gimp: add 2.3.8 May 21 15:35:09 hi dirk May 21 15:35:28 hey marcin May 21 15:39:36 off to bed May 21 15:39:37 gnight May 21 15:40:02 * chouimat is back. May 21 15:44:49 Is it possible to build opie with OE to let it run on my laptop May 21 15:45:00 yes May 21 15:45:05 yes May 21 15:45:08 qemu May 21 15:45:11 MACHINE=native and then opie inside of qvfb May 21 15:45:12 for example May 21 15:45:15 or native May 21 15:45:26 or native and opie on framebuffer May 21 15:45:41 I use qvfb and native build of opie for developing May 21 15:46:34 ok thx. But does it need to generate all the locales again, since i am changing system? May 21 15:49:21 if you need locales... May 21 15:53:23 I have no clue if i need locales. If i dont, i'll rather skip them. How do i skip them when building an image. I tried the an patch to glibc but it was a mismatch versions May 21 15:53:40 let them build May 21 15:53:58 all: my bitbake says gtk+ is already staged. I deleted the stamps, but it keeps saying this. May 21 15:54:52 likewise: bitbake -cclean gtk+ May 21 15:54:53 hmm May 21 15:55:02 why does GPE have so many hard coded Makefiles? May 21 15:55:26 ifeq ($(CVSBUILD),yes) May 21 15:55:26 PACKAGE_CFLAGS += -I../libgpewidget May 21 15:55:26 PACKAGE_LDFLAGS += -L../libgpewidget May 21 15:55:26 BUILD = ../build May 21 15:55:26 else May 21 15:55:26 PACKAGE_CFLAGS += -I/usr/include/gpe May 21 15:55:28 BUILD = build May 21 15:55:30 endif May 21 15:55:32 tssss May 21 15:55:44 hrw: thanks. I was stuck there. May 21 15:56:37 mickeyl: because they do not use qmake? May 21 15:56:51 ah right May 21 15:56:55 that must be it May 21 15:58:00 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19469 May 21 15:58:57 hmm.. cheapest amd64 is sempron 2500+ (237 pln for s753 boxed) May 21 15:59:52 hrw: what if bitbake thinks all my packages are staged already? (It does...) May 21 16:00:26 likewise: nevermind do they are staged? May 21 16:00:43 hrw: they are not staged May 21 16:00:48 hrw: and not build even May 21 16:03:23 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r741ca059... 10/packages/gpe-nmf/ (gpe-nmf-0.22/fix-includepath.patch gpe-nmf_0.22.bb): gpe-nmf: fix local includepath due to hardcoded Makefiles May 21 16:04:40 likewise: no idea now May 21 16:05:56 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r33f5c37d... 10/classes/sanity.bbclass: sanity.bbclass: make it work even when distutils is not available May 21 16:08:08 ~change 470 pln to usd May 21 16:08:19 470.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 151.902 United States Dollar (USD) (from http://www.xe.com/) May 21 16:08:28 someone used sempron s754 64bit? May 21 16:24:03 mickeyl: http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/timeline May 21 16:24:13 mickeyl: checking 2012, 2013 and 2014 May 21 16:24:19 checkins* May 21 16:27:59 excellent May 21 16:28:22 luckily most gpe stuff is autotooled nowadays May 21 16:28:29 * koen hates the gpe-style makefiles May 21 16:29:56 btw., could we remove a couple of old versiosn? May 21 16:30:21 sure May 21 16:30:35 | /home/hrw/devel/build/dev/tmp/cross/lib/gcc/arm-linux/4.0.2/../../../../arm-linux/bin/ld: cannot find -lssl May 21 16:30:39 argh May 21 16:30:58 hrw, could be worse May 21 16:31:03 I've got -ldl ;) May 21 16:31:44 someone know why we still use pcre 4.4? May 21 16:31:55 other then konq/e from 2003? May 21 16:33:01 the konq/e from 2005? May 21 16:47:30 hey CoreDump|home May 21 16:47:49 hi koen May 21 16:48:02 greetings ! May 21 16:48:13 hi Ifaistos May 21 16:48:32 hey Ifaistos May 21 16:51:48 Hi CoreDump Hi Koen May 21 16:52:52 hi ifaistos May 21 16:53:10 hey guys, is there any way to fetch a package without installing ? May 21 16:53:26 CSMan: ipkg -d? May 21 16:53:35 or ipkg download (dont remember now) May 21 16:53:49 i'll try the latter May 21 16:54:59 yeh, that worked May 21 16:55:34 Did some testing during the weekend with the distro i build with OE and madwifi wireless driver. May 21 16:55:49 Got something like 50Mbits in a wireless link May 21 16:56:45 50Mbps.. CF slot can do it? May 21 16:57:13 Well it was build for a ppc board with pci slots May 21 16:58:03 the link was in 5.2 Ghz at turbo mode (2 channels) May 21 16:58:35 isn't 5.2GHz a regulated frequency? May 21 16:58:52 Not anymore in Greece :) May 21 16:58:56 :) May 21 16:59:01 it was alocated for outdoor links May 21 16:59:05 Ifaistos: user suggested that I can get linksys wcf54g (802.11g cf card) to get drivers working May 21 17:00:37 hrw : what chipset its using ? Just a notice. Sometimes companies keep the same product name/number but the chipset inside changes :/ May 21 17:00:48 Ifaistos: agere May 21 17:00:58 0x0156, 0x0003 iirc May 21 17:03:12 hrw: agere needs some patches to the hostap driver i think. May 21 17:03:25 hrw: not sure though... May 21 17:03:44 Ifaistos: o.. I was thinking that it use agere driver still May 21 17:04:35 how bad is it to get an OE.db image instead of updating my current one ? May 21 17:08:34 it looks like they removed usbvnetr from the atmelwlandriver package =( May 21 17:09:00 bbiab May 21 17:34:36 CSMan, its the same thing May 21 17:35:44 the module is not there, anyway i built atmelwlandriver-usb-2.4.19-rmk6-pxa1-hh39 May 21 17:35:59 udhcpc doesn't seem to touch atml0 May 21 17:36:37 so no lease can be obtained May 21 17:38:13 open("/dev/urandom", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) May 21 17:38:20 will that give access to atml0? May 21 17:43:17 * emte is curious how urandom has anything to do with dhcp May 21 17:43:48 that's what strace gave me May 21 17:44:17 and it's udhcpc May 21 17:45:44 dhcp needs to perform random intervals May 21 17:45:52 (timeouts) May 21 17:49:15 CSMan, you sure the atmel stuff wasnt moved into wavelan ? May 21 17:50:55 i vaguly remember someone talking about cleaning up some duplicate driver stuff May 21 17:51:22 mostly prism dirvers tho i think May 21 17:52:36 wavelan May 21 17:53:23 what's the package name ? May 21 17:55:47 it seems a bit pedantic to make me update the bitbake user manual when the user manual isn't up to date anyway... May 21 17:58:49 emte: where should I look for wavelan May 21 18:22:17 re May 21 18:23:43 JustinP: around? May 21 18:24:09 zecke: I updated the patch and added comments to the bug May 21 18:25:29 JustinP: good, sorry If I have blocked it May 21 18:25:36 JustinP: I'm not sure if I did though May 21 18:27:51 JustinP: oh man... May 21 18:27:56 your wordings May 21 18:28:25 ... May 21 18:28:52 JustinP: Ist SRCDATE = "now" a Bugfix? No it isn't, this is why it won't be applied to a branch for now... May 21 18:28:54 my "wordings" can hardly be worse than the ones already in the manual May 21 18:29:01 your wordings sounds so offensive... May 21 18:29:13 your wordings in the bugtracker May 21 18:29:16 oh you mean my comment sin the bug May 21 18:29:19 zecke: in theory, why the wireless card doesn't respond even to ping , is it something wrong in the driver? May 21 18:29:28 * mickey|dinner donates a couple of cool-down-sweets May 21 18:29:41 sure my wordings in the manual are crap, I'm not a native speaker and not a technical writer... May 21 18:29:56 forget the manual, misunderstood your comment May 21 18:29:58 JustinP: I start to rember the situation May 21 18:30:07 well, I just don't understand why you're saying my patch mucks about with ;date and ;rev....when it obviously is not May 21 18:30:18 JustinP: I said we need to check it May 21 18:30:42 JustinP: or at least I meant it, and Bitbake1.4 is a stable - no new features - branch May 21 18:30:56 JustinP: and I'm scared to change bits, as I do not know the side effects May 21 18:31:02 this applies to all code... May 21 18:31:17 JustinP: anyway I will apply the patch to trunk soon(tm) May 21 18:32:03 well, my patch won't break anything. It's a *simple* change. If there are problems with rev vs date then this patch doesn't change them at all May 21 18:32:26 yes, they should probably be checked, but this patch won't change how they're handled in the slightest May 21 18:33:01 JustinP: this is what we always think :) May 21 18:33:25 JustinP: and be glad I'm not asking you to write a test case - which we will need as well :} May 21 18:34:08 I don't see nay tests in svn...at least not for 1.4 May 21 18:34:39 JustinP: right, this is also why I'm not requesting them from you May 21 18:35:01 JustinP: but we have a bitbake-tests module which uses unittests, and if you feel like (not mandantory) you can write test cases May 21 18:35:07 and I have no idea how this could be reliably tested...(well, I suppose creating a CVS rep, checking something in, building, checking in a change, building would do it, but this is not going to be an easy thing to test...) May 21 18:35:23 all right, I'm done now May 21 18:35:43 JustinP: right, having prepared reps (but again no show stopper for applying the patch) May 21 18:45:08 JustinP: If I would ask you to rediff against trunk? How would you react? May 21 19:08:34 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4fea514a... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: gomunicator: fix the sourceforge cvs url. May 21 19:08:38 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r0573ee1a... 10/conf/distro/familiar-0.8.3.conf: gomunicator: checkout a never version from gomunicator that adds h6300 support for phone calls in h6300. May 21 19:08:42 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r06001736... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gomunicator: h6300 kernel 2.6.16.16, Tux can now call home. May 21 19:08:46 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r0b037f59... 10/conf/machine/h6300.conf: h6300 config: add alsa sound modules needed by alsa apps and gsm phone calls with gomunicator. May 21 19:08:51 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r38a3ec34... 10/packages/linux/linux-ezx/ (defconfig-a780 defconfig-e680): linux-ezx: update defconfigs to compile some more things into the kernel May 21 19:08:55 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rdbb8f553... 10/packages/linux/linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb: linux-ezx: bump revision per the defconfig changes May 21 19:09:02 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r05a26580... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: May 21 19:09:02 gomunicator: fix the sourceforge cvs url. May 21 19:09:02 mt --db /opt/h6300/oe/oe.db --branch=org.openembedded.oz354fam083 --message-file=/opt/h6300/oe/fam083/commits/20060521_gomunicator_url_fix.txt commit packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb May 21 19:09:06 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * rfd32d8c3... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gomunicator: h6300 kernel 2.6.16.16, Tux can now call home. May 21 19:09:10 03lamikr 07org.oe.dev * r213055f4... 10/conf/machine/h6300.conf: h6300 config: add alsa sound modules needed by alsa apps and gsm phone calls with gomunicator. May 21 19:18:04 problems... I and mickeyl ended up committing changes to dev branch in exactly same time... There is now two branch problem. May 21 19:27:29 http://opendevice.org/ someone? May 21 19:30:41 hrw: ..... and that is what ? May 21 19:31:24 ade|desk: dont know - just got mail about existance of it.. May 21 19:34:49 lamikr: 'monotone merge' May 21 19:35:28 lamikr: see http://venge.net/monotone/monotone.html May 21 19:35:53 hrw: never seen that May 21 19:37:24 thx May 21 19:37:37 koen: I did first pull to verify that there had not happened any new changes and then pushed immediately. I committed 7 changes in one push, and mickeys commit appeared in the between of those in cia-9. May 21 19:39:52 zecke: I can try.... May 21 19:40:24 JustinP: that would be really appreciated. What you could also do is to reopen the backport bug May 21 19:40:34 JustinP: and make it depend on 'your' bug May 21 19:41:02 JustinP: if either mickeyl or RP say they want to have this backported we will 'backport' it May 21 19:44:39 zecke: looks like things were changed in the svn fetcher....I'll try to get it changed right, but... May 21 19:45:12 try, or get back to me :) May 21 19:47:45 my patch applied to everything but cvs and svn fetchers May 21 19:48:38 ah we have a check_for_tarball already May 21 19:48:52 idiot (me) May 21 19:49:50 JustinP: we did change try_mirror to check for the tarball May 21 19:50:30 JustinP: okay, you could stop at that point (codewise) May 21 19:50:52 JustinP: reopen the 'BitBake bug porting bug, and make it depend on 351 (or was it 315) May 21 19:51:10 JustinP: ping mickey|tv or RP to give a positive comment and we will apply May 21 19:51:22 JustinP: I'm getting paranoid about the stability of the stable branch :} May 21 19:51:30 zecke: menaing I shouldn't try to apply my patch to trunk? May 21 19:51:47 zecke: only svk patched ok, but I assume it needs to be updated as per svn and cvs... May 21 19:51:49 JustinP: right, I will do/can do it May 21 19:52:00 zecke: ok May 21 19:52:08 zecke: thanks May 21 19:53:45 zecke: bug 829? May 21 19:54:58 zecke: I'll update it, please just confirm that this is the "bug porting bug" you mentioned... May 21 19:55:48 JustinP: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=918 May 21 19:56:01 had to find it first May 21 19:56:14 zecke: ok, thanks May 21 19:56:56 thanks for the patch :) May 21 19:57:12 heh, np May 21 19:58:16 RP: ping, please see reopened bug 918 and vouch for the patch if you think it's useful May 21 19:58:21 mickey|tv: ping, please see reopened bug 918 and vouch for the patch if you think it's useful May 21 19:59:45 all: Shouldn't the wording begin with "Packaging contents of..." in "Packaged contents of locale-base-ku-tr into /home/leon/sandbox/ep93xx/openembedded/build/tmp/deploy/ipk/locale-base-ku-tr_2.4-r5_arm.ipk" May 21 20:05:32 likewise: its packaged when info is outputed iirc May 21 20:07:23 hrw: OK, now I see: Packaged is the past tense of "to package" instead of an additive in "packaged content". May 21 20:08:10 emte: where did you say they moved atmelwlandriver ? May 21 20:08:14 likewise: my english grammar is not perfect - learnt english in middle school nearly 10 years ago May 21 20:08:35 I bet it's a lot better than our polish :) May 21 20:09:50 hrw: 18 years for me :-) May 21 20:10:09 koen: I will give you beer if you will spell my surname correctly ;) May 21 20:10:22 juszkiewicz? May 21 20:10:42 but the thing which interest me more is how you would spell 'hrw' ;D May 21 20:10:57 koen: yes mr kooi May 21 20:11:18 juschkiwitsch May 21 20:11:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2b7e98de... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-openzaurus: disable logo on akita/spitz/poodle to get this machines booting - console rotation block logo May 21 20:11:31 youshkeywitch May 21 20:11:35 polyonymous: now it will boot May 21 20:11:49 hrw, thanks tons. May 21 20:11:59 np May 21 20:12:06 * polyonymous pulling May 21 20:12:29 polyonymous: now you are xpected to test 3.5.4.1-rc4 on spitz May 21 20:12:42 * likewise drinking May 21 20:12:47 polyonymous: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/3.5.4.1-test/.rc4/spitz/ May 21 20:12:56 * hrw just ate pizza and will go sleep May 21 20:13:24 hrw, will .dev image testing suffice? May 21 20:14:00 no May 21 20:14:11 It's not a big deal to test 3.5.4.1-rc4 with altboot, but it's not going to be extensive testing... :( May 21 20:14:21 btw, does altboot kexec yet? May 21 20:17:00 polyonymous: I need info like "flashed oz 3.5.4.1-rc4/opie - it boot into opie, keyb works, suspend/resume work, cards are seen" etc May 21 20:17:47 That's no problem, except for flashing kernel. I kind of can have only one kernel. May 21 20:18:20 hi polynoums May 21 20:18:39 hi woglinde_ May 21 20:20:08 haha, gcc bug :} May 21 20:20:40 cu May 21 20:21:19 zecke: didn't you hear? gcc was declared bugless May 21 20:21:50 koen: Theo says the opposite May 21 20:22:12 zecke: theo says lots of things May 21 20:22:24 zecke: but I didn't see an opengcc yet May 21 20:22:28 and he is always right? May 21 20:22:37 cause it is called OpenCC May 21 20:22:49 and opencc is faster too May 21 20:22:58 because it accesses the framebuffer directly May 21 20:23:35 does it put "this exec was built using OpenCC" evertime you run an exec May 21 20:26:12 probably May 21 20:26:33 and I bet it adds insults when you use -Wall May 21 20:27:21 reject -D__GNUSOURCE__ May 21 20:28:09 which theo? May 21 20:28:20 emte: *the* theo May 21 20:28:35 there is more than one ?? May 21 20:28:42 * emte is hoping you dont mean deratt May 21 20:28:58 polyonymous: altboot doesn't need to support it intrinsically. (I think it might, but not sure). Just add a menu item like I do to boot your kernel of choice. ;-) May 21 20:29:25 JustinP: altboot already has a menu for that May 21 20:30:20 at least that was what the commit message said :) May 21 20:31:01 if i am dead in an hour, its cuz i ate a sub from 711 May 21 20:31:50 night all May 21 20:32:11 someone want to do my hw for me? i am rired of programming PICs May 21 20:32:12 altboots kexec implementation is less than ideal May 21 20:32:19 tired* May 21 20:32:20 * chouimat is away: familly stuff May 21 20:33:57 emte: you're lucky that _this_ is your hw :-) May 21 20:34:11 that used to be what I did for having fun :-) May 21 20:34:14 Ecco, it isnt really May 21 20:34:27 its taht garbage northmicro crap May 21 20:35:00 i am currently trying to figure out how to not burn myself May 21 20:35:01 hm can safely delete the /devel/arm/tmp/roots/usr/lib/ipkg/lits/oe file in an image? May 21 20:35:19 :-D May 21 20:35:39 poor design on thier part May 21 20:36:02 the voltage regulator must be at ~ 125C May 21 20:36:02 :-/ May 21 20:36:07 What's so hot ? May 21 20:36:11 wow May 21 20:36:21 Did you try tying a dissipator to it ? May 21 20:36:26 when you drop the network board on it May 21 20:36:45 dissipatator? ... heatsink? May 21 20:37:17 its just poor design May 21 20:37:47 the board steps down 9V to 5V and the network board steps it down again to 3.3V May 21 20:39:08 :-D May 21 20:39:48 using a lower voltage powerblock would probably solve 1/2 the problem May 21 20:39:58 :-) May 21 20:45:39 woglinde_: yes May 21 20:45:50 coredump *g* May 21 20:45:56 did it May 21 20:46:01 ;) May 21 20:46:03 it consumes over 1,4 mb May 21 20:46:12 and I need space May 21 20:46:19 IIRC it is deleted in the final image May 21 20:46:33 (at least in mine hehe) May 21 20:47:12 hmm May 21 20:47:18 * koen should improve the build from feeds code some time soon May 21 20:47:34 has anyone tried to convince the ipodlinux peopel to try OE? May 21 20:49:09 :-D May 21 20:49:13 I thought they did May 21 20:49:16 What are they using ? May 21 20:49:23 I've seen the video of doom on the nano May 21 20:49:26 that rocks soo much May 21 20:49:30 http://ipodlinux.org/Toolchain#For_applications_.283.4.3_toolchain.29 May 21 20:49:37 plus the iPod's interface is soo good for Doom :-) May 21 20:49:41 seems like a custom script May 21 20:50:05 hmm... weird May 21 20:50:09 but they are using gcc3.4.3 and uclibc May 21 20:51:19 they also reference 2.95 which makes me think they originally followed the OZ setup ... May 21 20:51:32 or atleast the sharp version May 21 20:53:30 but yeah, Ecco , i was looking at the nano since they are dropping in price pretty quick May 21 20:53:34 JustinP, sure thing, it's just that I think the support for it was incomplete, i.e. I'd have to learn things about kexec. Which is not a bad idea, anyway ;-) May 21 20:54:20 i am thinking it might make a nice house controller with a few mods May 21 20:57:59 a nano ? May 21 20:58:00 damn May 21 20:58:01 :-D May 21 21:02:45 there is nothing to control in my house, not even my girlfriend. May 21 21:03:38 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rb8059643... 10/packages/obexftp/ (obexftp_0.19.bb files/i-hate-libtool.patch): obexftp: remove 0.19, fix 0.20 May 21 21:03:48 mickey|tv: lol May 21 21:04:00 heh May 21 21:04:00 mickey|tv: I hate libtool? is that political correct? May 21 21:04:10 of course. libtool is not a minority May 21 21:04:12 mickey|tv: I think libtool deserves its own gender May 21 21:04:18 he,she,it, libtool May 21 21:04:33 hehe May 21 21:05:39 hmm... that was one file too few May 21 21:07:00 mickey|tv: did you see Justin's ping? May 21 21:07:17 yeah. tomorrow i will test the patch and comment May 21 21:07:56 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6e057d63... 10/packages/obexftp/obexftp_0.20.bb: obexftp: actually add 0.20 May 21 21:18:57 i got the latest OE bz file. I can't build file-native, i get | lt-file: could not find any magic files! May 21 21:19:50 CSMan: oh, I thought we are passed that May 21 21:20:01 i thought so too May 21 21:20:06 CSMan: I don't remember the resolution May 21 21:20:43 =( May 21 21:20:46 woglinde_: Raul is anticipating the WorldCup ;) May 21 21:21:10 isn't that guy portuguese ? May 21 21:21:16 what was the reboot key sequence for Z-kernel? May 21 21:23:50 googled it, thank you ;-) May 21 21:24:40 ok, it's a problem with the magic file May 21 21:24:58 it's not parsing correctly May 21 21:26:11 zecke robocup or real soccer? May 21 21:26:27 woglinde: both May 21 21:26:33 lol May 21 21:26:39 hm May 21 21:26:40 g'night May 21 21:26:55 dont know in which state is the mexico team May 21 21:27:00 night mickeyl May 21 21:27:51 woglinde: how was the game? May 21 21:30:49 zecek tight May 21 21:31:09 bremerhaven had could win too May 21 21:32:30 woglinde: did you watch it? May 21 21:32:39 zecke yes May 21 21:32:42 there is something wrong with the magic file =/ May 21 21:32:43 woglinde: you are invited to watch Dalla vs. San Antonio May 21 21:32:43 over internet May 21 21:32:53 zecek on monday? May 21 21:32:55 woglinde: heh? how could you do that? May 21 21:32:56 hm May 21 21:33:01 woglinde: yes 2h May 21 21:33:06 zecke aeh May 21 21:33:22 zecke I didnt say soemthing about watching tv over the internet May 21 21:33:35 forget it *yedimove* May 21 21:34:18 woglinde: lol May 21 21:34:28 woglinde: either you got the key over internet May 21 21:34:34 woglinde: or you tested gstreamer ;) May 21 21:34:36 no key May 21 21:35:00 woglinde: BTW: Tron was in TV yesterday May 21 21:35:08 the movie? May 21 21:35:28 yes May 21 21:57:04 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams May 21 22:00:00 hrw|gone, kexeced/altbooted 3.5.4.1-rc4/opie -- boots into opie, keyboard works, suspend/resume works, sees cf media okay, loads BOTH orinoco and hostap drivers for my card and doesn't work ;-) manfid: 0xd601, 0x0005 (D-Link DCF660W). May 21 22:16:16 altboot prefers failsafe shell... hmm... May 21 22:24:09 all: I built some extra package, now I want to package them afterwards. How can I do this? May 21 22:25:34 they should get packaged automatically May 21 22:25:57 since the do_package() function gets called and does this May 21 22:26:09 look in your deploy dir May 21 22:26:14 even when I did not INHERIT package_ipkg when I built it? May 21 22:26:45 i am not 100% sure, but it should have May 21 22:26:55 just look in your deploy dir May 21 22:27:38 emte: OK, the package is there. May 21 22:30:30 * likewise is waiting for do_rootfs's MAKEDEV.... May 21 22:31:39 emte: It simply says: Cannot find package librsvg. May 21 22:31:40 makedev ... you using a 2.4 kernel? May 21 22:31:57 emte: no May 21 22:32:21 hmm, maybe someone adapted makedev? May 21 22:32:55 or am i confusing makenode May 21 22:33:07 emte: never mind, I do not exactly know I was waiting for, it took long and I only saw a /dev appear in tmp/rootfs/ May 21 22:33:10 likewise, what says taht? May 21 22:33:45 ERROR: function do_rootfs failed May 21 22:33:52 if when your packaging and it tells you that it cannot find it, i would suspect that you did not stage the library May 21 22:34:08 NOTE: package clock-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs: failed May 21 22:35:16 emte: the library is staged: May 21 22:35:18 lrwxrwxrwx 1 leon leon 19 May 22 00:39 build/tmp/staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/lib/librsvg-2.so -> librsvg-2.so.2.15.0 May 21 22:35:21 not apckaging, compiling another application calling for the blibrary May 21 22:36:38 how does it look for the library? May 21 22:36:50 pkgconfig ? May 21 22:37:33 you may need more staged than just the library it'self May 21 22:39:47 emte: what should I set my PKG_CONFIG_PATH to when I try this? May 21 22:39:54 build/tmp/staging/x86_64-linux/bin/pkg-config --libs lib May 21 22:44:21 hello May 21 22:45:10 can someone tell me how much dick space is required to bitbake opie-image for collie May 21 22:45:55 i just found that it takes more then 6gb :( May 21 22:46:01 greg2: There is a way (INHERIT += rm_work) to reduce disk space during the build, but I cannot help you with numbers for that one. May 21 22:46:38 thanks, i will check May 21 22:46:42 greg2: yes, the complete sources and builds are probably still on your disk. May 21 22:47:27 Greg2: for borzoi, it takes about 7.7gb May 21 22:47:43 greg2: Add INHERIT += rm_work to your local.conf and build again. May 21 22:47:45 (Sometimes it stops, just rebuild and it will continue. -- I think rm_work fails on large directories) May 21 22:48:16 This deletes the build directory after a package is built and packaged. May 21 22:54:52 likewise, wold that be INHERIT += "rm_work" with the "s May 21 22:55:11 yes May 21 22:55:28 thanks, i will try May 21 22:55:37 greg2: yes, but I am a relative newbie here, so double-check everything I say :-) May 21 22:55:48 ok May 21 23:05:25 ERROR: /home/leon/sandbox/ep93xx/openembedded/org.openembedded.dev/packages/autoconf/autoconf-native_2.59.bb depends on itself (eventually) May 21 23:11:41 s/dick/disk May 21 23:11:44 heh May 21 23:13:35 haha May 21 23:14:03 You can always add disk space for cheap :-) May 21 23:14:04 likewise: i've made that and some other changes, will keep my sources and start new build May 21 23:14:17 greg2: good, should work May 21 23:14:50 greg2: if it stops after rm_work, just rerun the build command. (it happens on large packages like glibc) May 21 23:15:00 i'm on dial-up also : ( May 21 23:15:05 greg2: it will simply continue May 21 23:15:39 greg2: always, or just now? May 21 23:15:55 thanks again May 21 23:50:37 good evening/nite all May 22 00:08:38 how do i check i a magic file is ok or faulty May 22 00:26:19 * chouimat is back. May 22 03:08:27 svn: Unrecognized URL scheme 'https://nowt.dyndns.org/svn/qemu/trunk' May 22 03:08:33 what's wrong with my svn ? May 22 03:24:43 CSMan: it's not compiled with https/ssl support May 22 03:25:12 yeah, i'm on my way there May 22 03:25:18 i hope it doesn't take too long May 22 07:53:54 10:00 < graydon__> currently on my 5400rpm laptop disk, initial pull of 4100 revs from venge.net takes about 18 minutes May 22 08:14:08 morning May 22 08:20:55 hey hrw|work May 22 08:22:10 koen: fuse/arm problem - kernel or utils? May 22 08:25:30 someone familiar with sempron64 on socket754? May 22 08:29:18 hrw|work: kernel module May 22 08:31:22 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rfc23c6d3... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig: ixp4xx-kernel: Add NBD and VIDEO_AUDIO_DECODER modules May 22 08:31:26 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rc2a0b04b... 10/packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb: slugos-packages: Add setserial to feed May 22 08:32:54 thx for info May 22 09:06:51 rebuild 2.6 kernel for all Z... May 22 09:12:53 zecke: you forgot to checkin your last changes to the OE manual May 22 09:13:15 koen: they are all checked in ;) May 22 09:13:19 koen: I might need to push it May 22 09:13:49 morning May 22 09:13:54 I still get that buildroot is on crack, while the oe site doesn't have that May 22 09:13:59 hey cyrilRomain May 22 09:14:07 koen: need to see where I checked it in :} May 22 09:27:01 koen: I'm not sure if I have the stuff on my notebook, desktop or ewi May 22 09:29:30 heh May 22 09:30:08 no rush May 22 09:47:29 hail zecke May 22 09:47:59 pb__: master! May 22 09:48:01 gosh, gnome-terminal seems to be awfully bloated lately May 22 09:48:02 5426 pb 15 0 142m 79m 1860 S 0.3 3.9 26:49.09 gnome-terminal May 22 09:53:48 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rf3f1cdd9... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel/2.6.16/defconfig: ixp4xx-kernel: Fix VIDEO_AUDIO_DECODER=m May 22 09:53:51 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r029326bc... 10/packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.16.bb: ixp4xx-kernel: Bump PR_CONFIG **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 22 09:59:57 2006