**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu May 25 09:59:58 2006 May 25 10:00:04 but how do they do it =D May 25 10:01:04 hrw|work: got your primsg. i replied but didn't see the warning about "unregistered users" :) May 25 10:01:09 hrw|work: anyway, i replied. May 25 10:01:13 (to the mail) May 25 10:01:22 thx May 25 10:04:47 hi May 25 10:05:03 is there a way to see a package dependencies with ipkg ? May 25 10:05:10 ipkg info packages May 25 10:07:26 hi May 25 10:08:04 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * re124af38... 10/packages/linux-libc-headers/ (8 files in 3 dirs): Add linux-libc-headers May 25 10:08:07 thx ! May 25 10:09:13 http://garage.maemo.org May 25 10:12:37 hi mickeyl May 25 10:13:58 hail pb__: how's your finger doing? May 25 10:14:52 hi pb May 25 10:15:20 mickeyl: much better these days. still a bit of a funny colour, but other than that fully functional. May 25 10:15:30 hi woglinde May 25 10:23:38 v8jlene: could you post /etc/samba/smb.conf from your slug somewhere please? May 25 10:23:52 koen: How do i update the gpe-calender file. I cant find the *bb file. And i tried to downgrade the other file you told me about but gpe-calender refused to compile. Is there any changes going on with this? May 25 10:24:33 goxboxlive: use the _cvs one May 25 10:25:02 CoreDump|home: http://oe.pastebin.com/736806 May 25 10:25:10 koen: Ok, once again thanks :-) . May 25 10:26:17 CoreDump|home: I uncommented the public section and changed the path in it after install. Looks like the standard OE one. May 25 10:26:29 argh May 25 10:26:45 maybe cpu issues? May 25 10:26:48 or codepages? May 25 10:27:01 CoreDump|home: Something in the site file? Is you target armeb like slug? May 25 10:27:17 well, it's arm allright May 25 10:28:07 running smbd -d9 -i shows that it is using "dos_mode" to list the share, even if it is not a vfat volume. But even on a real VFAT fs it doesn't work May 25 10:29:03 koen: it doesn't work on sh4 either =) Dunno about the codepages... May 25 10:29:36 CoreDump|home: Ok, I have it working on sh4. I removed all the samba related items from the site file and then copied those from the armeb. Is your arm target big or little endian? May 25 10:30:01 ahem, good question May 25 10:30:09 LE May 25 10:31:11 the 'l' in armv5te May 25 10:31:14 * mickeyl chuckles May 25 10:31:41 you could run your pxa in BE, if you swing that way May 25 10:31:54 ~lart ubuntu May 25 10:31:55 * ibot whips out a shotgun, trudges over to ubuntu, and goes postal May 25 10:32:04 ~lart me for not reading RequiredSoftware May 25 10:32:05 * ibot strangles koen with a 9-pole serial cable for not reading RequiredSoftware May 25 10:33:10 lol ;) May 25 10:33:14 The arm site file has all the same stuff for samba that I had in the sh4 site file. So I suspect replacing that with the samba entries from the armeb site file might just do it.. May 25 10:33:39 v8jlene: where are these "site" files? /me is a little bit clueless May 25 10:33:53 CoreDump|home: site/ May 25 10:34:19 SoC next year: qemu site file generation ;) May 25 10:34:43 ahh May 25 10:34:50 koen: scratchboxing? May 25 10:35:01 hrw|work: but better :) May 25 10:35:06 ouch May 25 10:35:42 Speaking of documentation... I have some here I created for myself.. which may hold some value for someone else? http://oe.twibble.org/ - some of it is just notes, the .bb file part is filled out a bit though. Remember this was done for me, so excuse the quality! May 25 10:36:24 v8jlene: nice May 25 10:36:35 do I need to reparse the cache after changing a site file? May 25 10:36:51 CoreDump|home: Just clean and rebuild samba should be enough in this case. May 25 10:38:33 * CoreDump|home kicks off a rebuild and prays May 25 10:40:16 CoreDump|home: You removed the old samba entries and copied the ones over from armeb? (Just checking ;) May 25 10:40:23 yeah May 25 10:41:01 v8jlene: If that works you made the day for quite a few OZ folks =) May 25 10:42:45 CoreDump|home: I'm reasonably happy that I figured out it was broken on sh4 now rather than when I try and use it down the track abit ;) May 25 10:47:15 hrw|work: The site or the content? I was thinking the bit on .bb recipes might be useful. It contains eveyything I learnt and pretty much in the order I had to learn them from when I started with OE about five month ago. That info doesn't really exist on the main oe site. May 25 10:48:02 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r74a353fa... 10/packages/pkgconfig/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Add pkgconfig May 25 10:48:24 v8jlene: content of page May 25 10:49:47 ~seen Mardy May 25 10:49:58 mardy is currently on #oe #openzaurus. Has said a total of 8 messages. Is idling for 1d 21h 36m 33s, last said: 'btw, I just accelerated solid fills so far :-)'. May 25 10:50:06 hmm May 25 10:50:18 v8jlene: that's exactly the stuff we want in the usermanual May 25 10:55:39 How does one search monotone for changes to (or removal of) a certain file? May 25 10:59:05 * chouimat is back. May 25 11:00:56 lardman|work: monotone log May 25 11:01:24 thanks koen May 25 11:02:45 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re1ee5158... 10/packages/udev/files/network.sh: udev: fix the nfs boot by using usb-gadget. Backported from the dev branch. May 25 11:02:49 03lamikr 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r6e486a31... 10/packages/gpe-login/ (files/pre-session-h6300-gsm.patch gpe-login_0.86.bb): gpe-login: fix the /dev/ttyS1 owner/permissions for the gsm phone in h6300. May 25 11:06:15 The .bb I provided to make bl work on the 2.6.x kernel machines (bug #347) has been removed from the metadata. The changes haven't been implemented in the bl cvs. Has bl been replaced by something else? May 25 11:06:36 removed? May 25 11:06:52 Well it was present a while back, and it's not now, so I think so, yes May 25 11:07:01 Where a while back is a few months May 25 11:07:31 Unless it got dropped when the branch split occurred May 25 11:07:59 * lardman|work only has .dev May 25 11:08:23 a branch off doesn't touch the root is branched off off May 25 11:08:46 :) May 25 11:08:53 I was wondering which was the root May 25 11:14:04 lardman|work: do you know the name of the packages? May 25 11:14:46 v8jlene: Yay! Samba works! May 25 11:15:33 CoreDump|home: yay! May 25 11:16:05 CoreDump|home: Great! May 25 11:16:52 * CoreDump|home preps to push the changes site-file May 25 11:17:13 CoreDump|home: It's always great with this mysterious problems get resolved! May 25 11:17:22 indeed! May 25 11:17:38 and doubly so on mysterious and _annyoing_ problems =D May 25 11:18:32 now I'll try to create a samba-essential ipk for our BIGFLASH models May 25 11:19:29 all: do_stage() of glibc-intermediate_2.4.bb loops endlessly. I remember someone mentioning this yesterday? May 25 11:19:44 lardman|work: are you sure the package was added to the repo? May 25 11:20:11 likewise: intermediate? I only get it with the real glibc May 25 11:20:31 likewise: building glibc right now from scratch :) May 25 11:20:39 koen: yep, intermediate May 25 11:21:20 likewise: it starts to look like it's a host problem... May 25 11:21:24 CoreDump|home: Yeah, sometime it helps a lot just having someone else look at the problem ;) Wow, 21.30.. I think I better go get dinner now! May 25 11:21:29 my problems started after apt-get upgrade May 25 11:24:59 koen: there should be a roll-back feature in apt. (eek, this is sounding much like something else). May 25 11:25:24 likewise: there's apt-get install foo/stable if you want to downgrade to stable/testing.. May 25 11:25:50 i'm booting off of sd with a loop image, after i use it for May 25 11:25:51 a while and set some settings, when I reboot all settings are gone... how can May 25 11:25:51 i preserve my settings or do I have to build a new loop image? May 25 11:26:24 systemsop: wrong channel May 25 11:26:37 sorry bout that May 25 11:27:17 hey zecke May 25 11:28:36 he zecke May 25 11:28:44 hey May 25 11:28:52 exhausted... May 25 11:29:51 hi all May 25 11:29:56 * zecke will clean-up the desk once again May 25 11:29:58 florian_kc: hey May 25 11:30:12 hi zecke May 25 11:30:13 hi florian_kc May 25 11:30:20 hi florian_kc Cwiiis zecke May 25 11:30:26 morning May 25 11:30:48 hi hrw|work, hi chouimat May 25 11:31:32 Hey hrw|work May 25 11:32:06 yes May 25 11:32:43 koen: what's your sed and make version? Make 3.80 sed 4.1.5 here May 25 11:34:28 hm May 25 11:35:24 sed 4.1.4 May 25 11:35:30 and I built make-native in OE May 25 11:35:40 koen: Sorry for the delay. The file was called bl_0.0.bb, I'm pretty sure it was added. May 25 11:35:40 up-to-date ubuntu dapper May 25 11:35:46 I think msp430 is ready May 25 11:35:53 woglinde: cool May 25 11:35:55 will made patches an send zecke May 25 11:36:15 maybee some cleanups May 25 11:36:36 woglinde: wow May 25 11:37:09 yes only gcc-3.3.6 bye now May 25 11:37:10 NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r5: task do_populate_staging: started May 25 11:37:25 I guess we'll know in a while if it works May 25 11:38:09 koen hopefully May 25 11:39:07 good thing do_stage() will be gone soon(tm) in my OE tree :) May 25 11:40:09 koen hm will you ever sync? May 25 11:40:35 I synced an hour ago May 25 11:41:00 I'll sync again May 25 11:41:18 hm I meant the branches May 25 11:41:28 woglinde: that's the plan May 25 11:41:48 woglinde: when it's done I'll submit it for review May 25 11:41:58 okay May 25 11:42:00 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r1db2bf13... 10/packages/gmp/ (9 files in 3 dirs): Add gmp May 25 11:42:02 woglinde: and people can apply it to .dev if they want May 25 11:42:05 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * ra3c26058... 10/packages/mpfr/ (mpfr-native_2.1.1.bb mpfr_2.1.1.bb): Add mpfr May 25 11:43:49 RP: around? May 25 11:44:16 likewise: glibc hangs now May 25 11:44:36 koen: ps output on make? May 25 11:45:12 koen: it seems either a make problem, or sed not correctly operating on a pattern. May 25 11:49:23 likewise: tls.make May 25 11:54:42 woglinde: should I move my target devices to the spline room? May 25 11:55:11 zecke hm May 25 11:55:17 dont know May 25 11:55:20 dont really like them May 25 11:56:34 woglinde: well they have space to host the things, and they pay the energy bill :} May 25 11:57:55 ask them May 25 11:57:59 koen: see this: http://www.cygwin.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=90 May 25 11:59:05 zecke by the way you want to ask them since 2 years May 25 11:59:30 woglinde: well I have asked them already once... or twice ;) May 25 12:00:27 likewise: that's indeed the problem May 25 12:00:45 koen: yes, but there is no real solution given... May 25 12:01:07 koen: dependency on .PHONY target is mentioned as the root of cause. May 25 12:01:38 likewise: make >3.80? May 25 12:01:51 =3.80 May 25 12:02:05 hrw|work: =3.80 May 25 12:02:25 hrw|work: you suggest 3.80 may be buggy here? May 25 12:04:46 no May 25 12:09:16 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r294f6afb... 10/packages/xserver-common/ (files/poodle-xmodmap-2.6.patch xserver-common_1.8.bb): xserver-common: Poodle: Add xmodmap for kernel 2.6 May 25 12:09:20 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r765a2673... 10/site/arm-linux: site: Samba: Correct site-file entries, courtesy of v8jlene. This unb0rks samba on arm. May 25 12:09:25 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rf74b2a78... 10/packages/samba/ (samba_3.0.14a.bb samba_3.0.20.bb): samba: Samba: Bump all PRs to pull in new site-file May 25 12:09:29 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rb9b66b08... 10/packages/xserver-common/ (files/poodle-xmodmap-2.6.patch xserver-common_1.9.bb): xserver-common: Poodle: Add xmodmap for kernel 2.6, untested in .dev May 25 12:09:34 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rb0451154... 10/packages/altboot/ (altboot_1.0.7-rc3.bb altboot_1.0.7-rc4.bb files/init.altboot): altboot: Poodle: Fix boot-timeout, add 1.0.7-rc4 May 25 12:09:38 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r601c39f8... 10/site/arm-linux: site: Samba: Correct site-file entries, courtesy of v8jlene. This unb0rks samba on arm. May 25 12:09:42 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rf810d663... 10/packages/samba/ (samba_3.0.14a.bb samba_3.0.20.bb): samba: Samba: Bump all PRs to pull in new site-file May 25 12:10:43 CoreDump|home: altboot please add also to .oz354x - some devs do not use .dev May 25 12:12:11 likewise: removing -include $(common-objpfx)tls.make form Makerules seems to fix it May 25 12:12:55 koen: removing that looks dangerous. tls.make.c returns whether threading is enabled etc. May 25 12:13:05 koen: that is, AFAICS May 25 12:14:40 could very well be May 25 12:14:49 * koen make n00b May 25 12:15:43 CoreDump|home: you made 3.0.20 default? May 25 12:15:54 hrw|work: nah May 25 12:16:03 I'm just playing with it May 25 12:16:27 started 3.0.14a now May 25 12:16:57 koen: working with a native make 3.81 didn't help here. May 25 12:17:26 woglinde: what are you doing with the msp430? May 25 12:17:39 cbrake bring it to oe May 25 12:17:56 zecke made some course with embbededsensors May 25 12:18:06 woglinde: so you are adding toolchain, libc, etc? May 25 12:18:14 and they dont have really a clue about Makefiles and so on May 25 12:18:35 cbrake first toolchain only binutils and gcc May 25 12:18:48 later maybe TinyOS and NC May 25 12:18:59 the projekt dont relay on msp430-libc May 25 12:19:25 koen: removing tls.make from Makerules is OK, if you properly hardcode the few rules below it. May 25 12:19:47 zecke have to test if gcc-3.3.x produces good code as gcc-3.2 May 25 12:20:04 hrw|work: did you find a GPE mentor for marcos yet? May 25 12:20:07 woglinde: very neat -- I know some people who are using so the msp430 -- I'll let them know. May 25 12:20:20 koen: config-tls := "hardcoded" May 25 12:20:37 koen: not yet May 25 12:20:43 cbrake :) May 25 12:20:44 koen: config-tls := "hardcoded" where hardcoded = notls, tls or thread May 25 12:20:53 woglinde: I have an ez430, but probably won't get around to trying it out for awhile May 25 12:21:35 hrw|work: since gpe(-calendar) already supports importing [iv]Cal and exporting vCal May 25 12:22:05 zecke are you going to fix the header includes <../.../../bla.h> in the scatterwebdistribution? May 25 12:22:53 woglinde: sed ;) May 25 12:23:27 hrw|work: contact neal@walfield.org about import/export stuff with gpe, since he's currently working on that May 25 12:23:33 hrw|work: and kick florian_kc ;) May 25 12:23:53 ok May 25 12:23:57 thx for infos May 25 12:24:20 :-) May 25 12:24:37 koen: i'm just collecting gpe-calendar bugs on the 770 May 25 12:24:47 zecke maybee we should sell c and autotools consulting to schiller May 25 12:24:55 florian_kc: I just killed a lot of bugs May 25 12:25:17 florian_kc: but those were all eating my plants and flowers May 25 12:25:27 koen: ah too bad ;-) May 25 12:26:33 woglinde: well gcc is not from MicroSoft May 25 12:26:50 woglinde: we could sell a python script hooking gdb into MS .NET 2005 May 25 12:27:18 woglinde: Yeah that code is there due a bug in .NET 1.1 when you read too early from the serial... May 25 12:27:21 ~lart ... May 25 12:27:22 * ibot whacks ... upside the head May 25 12:27:34 zecke what? May 25 12:28:10 hmm May 25 12:28:18 under what license was the original angelboot? May 25 12:28:34 woglinde: well they have used .NET to create the ScatterStudio May 25 12:28:45 woglinde: but it is full of workarounds ;) May 25 12:28:47 zecke made sin May 25 12:29:17 yeah because .net ist nothing for dealing with buses May 25 12:29:24 I guess May 25 12:32:55 ~seen kergoth May 25 12:33:10 kergoth is currently on #oe (5d 15h 2m 57s) #wowace (5d 15h 2m 57s) #elinux (5d 15h 2m 57s). Has said a total of 298 messages. Is idling for 12h 46m 17s, last said: 'and it pulled up with 4 open buffers, and a help window on 'set mouse''. May 25 12:36:25 koen: what's your host? x86_64? May 25 12:38:09 likewise: plain x86 (dual athlon 2800+) May 25 12:38:29 koen: good. saw some make bugs depend on 64-bit. May 25 12:38:48 koen: this excludes them now :-) May 25 12:42:35 likewise: could you cook up a patch for Makerules to get past the loop? It doesn't have to be correct May 25 12:42:51 <_law_> hi May 25 12:42:58 hey _law_ May 25 12:43:12 if anyone wants to look May 25 12:43:16 http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~heinold/msp430.diff May 25 12:43:20 http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/~heinold/local.conf May 25 12:43:32 koen: ok hold on. May 25 12:44:33 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * re9e7d2ef... 10/site/ (arm-linux arm-linux-gnueabi): site/arm-linux*: fix samba stuff, take from r601c39f83683596d280f8ad94530e9447018a8d6 May 25 12:44:39 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbd60f403... 10/site/arm-linux-gnueabi: site/arm-linux-gnueabi: pull in fixes from r601c39f83683596d280f8ad94530e9447018a8d6 May 25 12:45:36 woglinde: looks pretty ok May 25 12:45:40 <_law_> koen: packaged-staging? whats that? May 25 12:46:00 koen: ah we could talk in ~2 hours? May 25 12:46:06 _law_: where staging is populated using packages May 25 12:46:08 zecke: sure May 25 12:46:19 zecke: jabber me :) May 25 12:46:39 koen: I forgot to add you :} May 25 12:46:48 hi May 25 12:46:58 hey Skyhusker May 25 12:47:12 hey koen May 25 12:49:40 zecke: JID: koen@dominion.kabel.utwente.nl May 25 12:52:12 msp430 as in the microcontrollers? May 25 12:52:23 likewise: yes May 25 12:55:00 koen have to some pythonmagic for the configure options May 25 12:55:57 and rework install for gcc because there is no shared libgcc May 25 13:03:00 wow, the NSLU2, Shark and PPC board are now wired up :) May 25 13:29:45 all: I have performed an monotone add, then monotone commit on a new file in org.openembedded.dev, but monotone diff does not show it? May 25 13:30:04 likewise: dunno May 25 13:30:14 diff only show uncommitted stuf iirc May 25 13:30:16 likewise: ah diff is only for uncomitted stuf May 25 13:30:17 f May 25 13:30:52 but I committed? (I am too much into CVS still) May 25 13:31:15 monotone diff shows the difference between the working copy and the db May 25 13:31:25 committing puts the changes into the db May 25 13:31:38 monotone log -rrevision file --diffs May 25 13:31:39 * Philippe is back (gone 21:54:16) May 25 13:31:49 hey Philippe May 25 13:32:36 koen: ah yes, of course. May 25 13:32:52 hrw|work: thanks May 25 13:33:05 hey koen May 25 13:39:13 bbl May 25 13:44:12 okay May 25 13:44:35 update-alternatives: removing //bin/cp as no more alternatives exist for it :( May 25 13:46:21 meeting... May 25 13:52:55 zecke: you lose May 25 13:53:43 pb__: wrong May 25 13:53:46 pb__: I already lost May 25 13:53:47 zecke? May 25 13:53:57 woglinde: my slug comitted suicide May 25 13:59:40 http://qtopia.net/iso/qtopia-4.1.1-2006_04-20_1114.iso <---- demo cd May 25 13:59:50 zecke: oh dear May 25 14:01:01 chouimat: did you try it yet? May 25 14:01:15 zecke: I'm downloading it ... May 25 14:01:28 hm next projekt opie-live-cd May 25 14:09:50 zecke: so far it boot in qemu May 25 14:13:32 is there a way to automatically find the python site-packages directory? FILES_${PN} += "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/neo_cgi.so" May 25 14:14:00 and not hard-code python2.4? May 25 14:14:16 cbrake: try to point that qestion to mickeyl May 25 14:15:17 zecke: K May 25 14:15:57 mickeyl: is there a way to automatically find the python site-packages directory so I don't have to hardcode python2.4 in the following? May 25 14:16:01 mickeyl: FILES_${PN} += "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/neo_cgi.so" May 25 14:16:56 re May 25 14:17:33 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * reaece614... 10/packages/meta/unslung-image.bb: unslung-image: need to rm /usr/libexec, not /usr/bin/libexec May 25 14:17:44 cbrake: a bit of python to get major version from PV and then "${libdir}/python-${majorversion}/site-packages/*" maybe? May 25 14:19:55 hrw|work: how do I get the python PV? May 25 14:21:59 hrw|work: I suppose you could see if the python preferred version is set, and if not, look in the python directory for the latest BB. Is there an easier way? May 25 14:22:45 cbrake: ouch.. after a bit of thinking I realized that.. May 25 14:24:44 What does distutils do? May 25 14:25:07 I mean, it's used to install python modules, so it must know the version... May 25 14:25:20 v8jlene: distutils is written in python May 25 14:25:28 v8jlene: so it can query the used interpreter ;) May 25 14:25:44 zecke: what if python-native != python? May 25 14:25:56 Ahh, it runs the python-native interpreter to determine the version of python that is to be used... May 25 14:25:57 right ;) May 25 14:26:18 hrw|work: I think they should match (but I don't know so I shut up here) May 25 14:26:19 Hmmm, I think a lot of python things would break if that was done... May 25 14:26:40 zecke: atleast they match in OE May 25 14:26:46 hrw|work: maybe writing some python code that searches the work//image/usr/lib/python* for files would be the way to go. May 25 14:27:13 putting python* in FILES? May 25 14:27:58 zecke: ahh, so you can put directories with wildcards in FILES? May 25 14:28:11 cbrake: could work ;) May 25 14:28:28 * cbrake tries ... May 25 14:28:45 cbrake: it should use python's glob May 25 14:30:06 zecke: yup, that works :-) May 25 14:30:19 cbrake: distutils-base.bbclass has a method to determine the directory... May 25 14:30:59 How does OE ensure that -native tools are found in the path first? I cannot find where it gets done. May 25 14:31:18 export PATH should be somewhere ;) May 25 14:31:41 export PATH_prepend in bitbake.conf May 25 14:32:05 zecke: and should it occur in each run.do_* ? May 25 14:32:12 yes May 25 14:32:43 * CosmicPenguin finds a bb copyrighted 2004 May 25 14:32:49 wow - we've been doing this a long time.. :) May 25 14:33:02 CosmicPenguin: it looks like :} May 25 14:33:23 v8jlene: thanks for the pointer. It looks like zecke's python* method in the FILES statement will work, so I'll probably just use that. May 25 14:33:49 cbrake: do it properly ;) May 25 14:34:33 tabs v spaces? I found a style guide on wiki that says spaces. Quick check show a big mixture, but lots more tabs than spaces? May 25 14:34:34 does somebody know what to do to play RealPlayer-films with the mplayer in oz/opie? May 25 14:34:47 zecke: is python* not proper? May 25 14:35:06 cbrake: hmm, probably not May 25 14:35:33 v8jlene: it only matters if you _prepend in a python method :} May 25 14:36:38 zecke: Yeah, I realise that it has no actual effect - just noticed my own .bb's have a mixture - thought I should choose one over the other before I push them! May 25 14:39:37 zecke: the demo is fgood and qemu -cdrom ../d/qtopia-4.1.1-2006_04-20_1114.iso -boot d -kernel-kqemu -localtime -std-vga -m 384 -smp 4 May 25 14:40:27 cbrake: I think python* is perfectly proper. might as well stick with that. May 25 14:48:01 cbrake: just rely on PYTHON_DIR May 25 14:48:12 cbrake: have a look at distutils-base.bbclass May 25 14:48:26 oh for FILES May 25 14:48:37 ya, in that case /usr/lib/python*/ will be ok May 25 14:49:00 distutils-base will set that for you - you might want to inherit it May 25 14:50:25 wb mickeyl May 25 14:50:36 hi May 25 14:50:51 can't type that much today since i'm suffering from RSI hurting May 25 14:51:04 RSI? May 25 14:51:09 mickeyl: I was just to ask hows your RSI May 25 14:51:15 ~rsi May 25 14:51:16 rsi is, like, Repetitive Strain Injury Red Sector Inc, an old amiga demo group. May 25 14:51:58 hrw|work: not good. thankfully only one hand... May 25 14:52:22 mickeyl: get well :( May 25 14:53:11 mickeyl: ok, I'll just push the package in a few min and if anyone has comments, I'll change it then. May 25 14:53:25 NOTE: package clearsilver-0.10.3: completed :-) May 25 14:54:36 nice May 25 14:55:11 * mickeyl needs some speech recognition software... May 25 14:55:11 although i guess that sucks for coding May 25 14:55:29 mickeyl: luckily you have Windoze installed :} May 25 14:55:36 indeed. the IRC machine is windows May 25 14:55:41 i'm resting for a while May 25 14:55:41 bbl May 25 14:58:20 * hrw|work is going to add check for gcc 3.x into OE May 25 14:58:36 no gcc-native 3.x == no building May 25 14:59:32 hrw some guyes trying with gcc-2.95? May 25 15:00:28 woglinde: no - qemu-native NEED gcc 3.x May 25 15:00:56 uh no gcc4 patches? May 25 15:01:13 yep May 25 15:01:17 hm May 25 15:01:57 <_law_> hrw|work: i have installed gcc 3.2.3 and it doesnt work May 25 15:02:49 _law_: as gcc32 or gcc-3.2? May 25 15:02:57 <_law_> hrw|work: gcc32 May 25 15:03:26 _law_: iirc I added gcc32 check into .oz354x May 25 15:03:46 <_law_> hrw|work: i know :-) May 25 15:04:09 <_law_> hrw|work: perhabs i should try to build glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627-r3 with gcc 3 May 25 15:04:27 <_law_> qemu-native builds fine May 25 15:04:42 <_law_> but there is a problem with glibc after that May 25 15:08:17 worksforme May 25 15:09:02 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * r9fe7f2ff... 10/conf/documentation.conf: May 25 15:09:02 documentation.conf: add to documentation May 25 15:09:02 - update RDEPENDS & PROVIDES May 25 15:09:02 - add RPROVIDES May 25 15:09:07 03cbrake 07org.oe.dev * rf8a27370... 10/packages/clearsilver/ (clearsilver_0.10.3.bb files/crosscompile.patch): clearsilver 0.10.3: add clearsilver to OE May 25 15:31:49 ~lart totem May 25 15:31:49 * ibot teaches totem the basics, including how to RTM May 25 15:32:50 I assume totem is still the de-facto standard for gstreamer based players? May 25 15:33:10 banshee? or is that only audio? May 25 15:33:45 * CosmicPenguin wonders what OLPC is going to use May 25 15:34:00 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r6467224f... 10/packages/bl/bl_0.1.bb: bl: added 0.1 from #347 - this one works on all 2.6 devices May 25 15:35:51 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r73265f3a... 10/packages/meta/meta-gpe.bb: gpe-image: added bl May 25 15:36:59 well - here we go again - compling gnome apps in OE May 25 15:37:14 its been a while since I've done this crap May 25 15:37:30 cu May 25 15:38:44 CosmicPenguin: deja vu? May 25 15:42:41 __gints__: haven't seen you in a long time! May 25 15:42:44 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * rad4e353f... 10/packages/samba/ (4 files in 2 dirs): samba: Add samba-essential, a cut-down bare-bone samba server May 25 15:42:49 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r6ba3e310... 10/packages/samba/ (4 files in 2 dirs): samba: Add samba-essential, a cut-down bare-bone samba server May 25 15:47:16 Skyhusker: what's the subject of your SoC? May 25 15:48:12 grrrrrrrrrrrrr May 25 15:48:22 anyone know cfr21 inside out ? May 25 15:48:40 ~google cfr21 May 25 15:49:25 koen: regarding the glibc make loop: it loops again further down in the nptl/ dir. No solution yet. Since when might this be broken anyway? May 25 15:49:52 ibot: wake up May 25 15:49:54 up: GOOD MORNING!!! May 25 15:49:56 it just started breaking, no idea what triggered itt May 25 15:50:07 ibot: google cfr21 May 25 15:50:21 likewise: somewhere after I adjusted the long-long patch May 25 15:51:19 bbl May 25 15:52:45 bye guys May 25 16:01:10 i vaguely remember something about patching for svn pulls with patches only being for curtain date ranges .. is there any info on this or did i just dream it ? May 25 16:01:43 ade|desk: hrw had that May 25 16:01:49 mindate=;maxdate= May 25 16:01:56 is that pushed? May 25 16:02:03 are there any examples ? May 25 16:02:09 koen: DEPENDS graphviz is almost done May 25 16:02:18 zecke: cool May 25 16:04:19 Hi - are there any efforts in getting gcc-3.4.6 into familiar-unstable? May 25 16:04:37 TheCan: hehe May 25 16:04:57 TheCan: dunno if what I say is accurate, but familiar development is not part of OE anymore May 25 16:04:59 TheCan: try in #familiar May 25 16:05:13 TheCan: so your question is best answered in #familiar or #handhelds.org May 25 16:05:18 i see May 25 16:05:21 sorry May 25 16:05:31 not sure what i?m currently using though... May 25 16:05:32 TheCan: they have decided to split up May 25 16:05:52 we would love familiar to be back .. but they seem to be going in another direction atm May 25 16:08:04 sorry then my question was posed wrong - i just see "we" are not using familiar-unstable anymore May 25 16:08:23 but gcc-3.4.6 is not in OE is it? 3.4.5 isnt even May 25 16:08:40 the familiar-unstable would just set preffered version etc. i guess May 25 16:08:41 TheCan: right, we would welcome patches though :) May 25 16:09:10 hmm gcc-3.4.4 has lots of patches for example - does gcc-3.4.6 still need so many? May 25 16:09:13 koen: oh I make ewi crash? May 25 16:09:24 TheCan: dunno, find out May 25 16:09:31 mhm...ok :D May 25 16:09:41 zecke: it's still up May 25 16:09:49 zecke: 2417 zecke 25 0 71800 68m 3712 R 100 3.4 1:54.59 dot May 25 16:09:53 one more question - when i make a bb file and I put in a patch there like this: May 25 16:09:56 TheCan: there is no gcc 3.4.6 though May 25 16:09:59 file://000-Setup;patch=0" May 25 16:10:13 zecke, there is?: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/unix/languages/gcc/releases/gcc-3.4.6/ May 25 16:10:24 http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/ May 25 16:11:14 hello, i am back May 25 16:11:22 then in the dir when the package is being extrated a file "series" is created, but it has -p1 instead of -p0 -any idea? May 25 16:11:40 about gcc according to gcc.gnu.org: "Previous release series: GCC 3.4.5 (released 2005-11-30) May 25 16:11:40 Branch status: GCC 3.4.6 is the last release from the 3.4 series; the branch has been closed after the release." May 25 16:11:53 speaking of patches... May 25 16:11:56 cp: cannot stat `/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/obexftp/files/./iconv.patch': No such file or directory May 25 16:12:01 somehow webpages seems outdated to me May 25 16:12:16 is it only my tree that is missing this patch? May 25 16:12:29 TheCan: where do you read about 3.4.6? it does not exist! May 25 16:12:38 TheCan: not on the front page, not on the 3.4 release site May 25 16:12:49 zecke, "Branch status: GCC 3.4.6 is the last release from the 3.4 series" May 25 16:13:03 directly on gcc.gnu.org May 25 16:13:09 TheCan: http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-3.4/ <- searching for 3.4.6 <- nothing May 25 16:13:20 no not in gcc-3.4 subpage May 25 16:13:25 gcc 4.1.1 should be released any moment now May 25 16:13:33 somehow the text is misleading.. May 25 16:13:44 koen, it has been already May 25 16:13:45 TheCan: so it was not released (no changelog...) May 25 16:13:56 TheCan: well, patch=1 just says this is a patch May 25 16:14:01 zecke, but why does it exist in the "Release" dir? May 25 16:14:03 TheCan: you might want to do pnum=0 May 25 16:14:14 TheCan: ftp.fu-berlin.de is a warez server? May 25 16:14:21 :) May 25 16:14:27 TheCan: http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-announce/2006/ <- not according to this May 25 16:14:33 http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html May 25 16:14:52 ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/gnu/gcc/releases/gcc-3.4.6 <- another mirror May 25 16:15:09 TheCan: without a changelog it does not exist for me May 25 16:15:17 TheCan: it is like 2.96 then May 25 16:15:22 It must be a fork May 25 16:15:26 yes but it?s strange it exists on the mirrors May 25 16:15:37 TheCan: 2.96 got mirrored as well? May 25 16:15:47 TheCan: anyway you might want pnum=0 May 25 16:15:50 zecke, where to supply this pnum=0? directly in the bb file after patch=1? May 25 16:16:03 file://setup.patch;patch=1;pnum=0 May 25 16:16:10 ah thx May 25 16:16:25 TheCan: and it is handled in classes/base.bbclass May 25 16:17:35 zecke, working fine now, thx a lot May 25 16:17:45 btw how about gcc 3.4.5 then? :) May 25 16:18:08 TheCan: patches welcome, personally I'm focusing on 4.x :) May 25 16:18:26 TheCan: and sadly each gcc release has different regressions so upgrading can fix stuff but break... May 25 16:18:32 time for making patches welcome :-) May 25 16:18:42 hehe May 25 16:18:55 koen: dot is slooow, could you get another cpu for ewi? May 25 16:19:21 :) May 25 16:20:44 yay gcc 4.1.0 works :) May 25 16:20:58 ade|desk: check the next commit May 25 16:21:15 oh bugger what have you done ? May 25 16:21:30 ade|desk, on which arch did you try it? May 25 16:21:36 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/opie-depends.png May 25 16:21:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r48950da6... 10/packages/gcc/ (12 files in 3 dirs): gcc: add gcc 4.1.1 toolchain May 25 16:22:51 4.1.0 is sooo five seconds ago May 25 16:23:09 so 4.1.1 is already included now? May 25 16:24:32 fwhole-program --combine <-- that looks useful May 25 16:24:34 TheCan: that's what the commit message said :) May 25 16:24:45 let?s try it on sh3 then :) May 25 16:25:25 TheCan: gcc 4.1.0 works on i386 with uclibc May 25 16:25:41 ade|desk, cool May 25 16:25:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rdcfd1f3c... 10/packages/gcc/gcc_4.1.1.bb: gcc 4.1.1: unbreak SRC_URI May 25 16:25:56 lol nice one koen May 25 16:26:32 I wondered with it said gcc-4.1.1 so I changed it to ${P} May 25 16:26:45 which works for gcc_, but now for gcc_cross May 25 16:27:14 cia-9 is your commit bot? :) May 25 16:27:51 it is May 25 16:28:09 Either that, or he's just an anal human who has nothing better to do then watch koen work May 25 16:29:01 <- syncing May 25 16:30:22 ~lart me May 25 16:30:22 * ibot plops koen into a giant vat of herring May 25 16:31:57 gosh is my desktop slow... May 25 16:33:19 why do I have two trees? May 25 16:33:30 I obviously are to stupid to handle that May 25 16:34:07 am* May 25 16:35:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * ra7eb3356... 10/packages/gcc/gcc-4.1.1/ (6 files in 2 dirs): gcc 4.1.1: but the zecke patch in the right dir. I suck May 25 16:36:08 i dont think i'll use 4.1.1 just yet .. my uclibc skills need updating May 25 16:36:30 from nowt to more than nowt May 25 16:38:38 whats the easiest way to see what files have been added to working copy but not commited May 25 16:39:11 monotone status or monotone diff May 25 16:39:54 * ade|desk runs in fear May 25 16:40:14 you are right to be scared May 25 16:40:49 but put May 25 16:40:51 *g* May 25 16:43:53 time to drop a few bits May 25 16:44:33 and kick a task-bootstrap off May 25 16:56:43 man is ewi slow... May 25 17:01:07 ok, no need for help... found out the newer obexftp bb file doesnt mention this patch at all May 25 17:05:50 cya folks , hometime May 25 17:09:42 koen: I had two tree's my self after i synd the dev branch. One of the tree where your name, and the other tree i dont rember the name. I just merged it, was that ok? May 25 17:14:23 any ideas? --> http://oe.pastebin.com/737454 May 25 17:24:39 hi, can anybody tell me where the postinst for a module is specified? I'm installing kernel-module-rfcomm and it complains because there is a modprobe rfcomm in postinst, but no insmod May 25 17:24:47 however I have no idea where to fix this May 25 17:25:03 have tried grepping for modprobe rfcomm without success .... May 25 17:25:15 eFfeM: check kernel.bbclass May 25 17:25:15 eFfeM: in the kernel bb file May 25 17:25:19 eFfeM: or kernel.bbclass May 25 17:26:49 koen, zecke, tnx; here is the bad guy: May 25 17:26:50 autoload_postinst_fragment() { May 25 17:26:50 if [ x"$D" = "x" ]; then May 25 17:26:50 modprobe %s || true May 25 17:26:50 fi May 25 17:26:52 } May 25 17:26:59 this is from kernel.bbclass May 25 17:27:25 a few lines below it reads: May 25 17:27:25 module_autoload_rfcomm = "rfcomm" May 25 17:27:53 the module_autoload_rfcomm will put it in /etc/modules/rfcomm May 25 17:28:09 ok May 25 17:28:41 which will autoload it on boot May 25 17:28:47 but apparently no-one is doing the insmod May 25 17:29:09 probably followed by a depmod May 25 17:29:12 /etc/init.d/modutils should do it May 25 17:29:55 and kernel.bbclass (or module(-base).bbclass) should put the depmod in the postinst May 25 17:31:05 koen, here is the postinst: http://pastebin.com/737522 May 25 17:31:32 ehm May 25 17:31:41 that looks a bit wrong May 25 17:31:52 ah no May 25 17:31:57 * koen reads it a bit better May 25 17:32:40 if I execute it I get: May 25 17:32:41 Configuring kernel-module-rfcomm May 25 17:32:41 FATAL: Module rfcomm not found. May 25 17:32:57 afaik the fatal is from the modprobe May 25 17:33:04 and /sbin is in your $PATH? May 25 17:33:08 this error is from the ipkg install May 25 17:33:39 yup: PATH='/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:' May 25 17:35:22 the odd thing is that if I look at module-l2cap that the modprobe line is not there May 25 17:36:59 koen, here is the same postint with the one from l2cap added: http://pastebin.com/737537 May 25 17:38:10 is l2cap also autoloaded? May 25 17:38:47 dunno, how can i tell ? May 25 17:38:51 eFfeM: ah, oh dear. that's a bug. May 25 17:39:06 I guess it probably needs fixing in ipkg. May 25 17:39:31 pb__: not a feature ? May 25 17:39:59 pff. fixing ipkg May 25 17:40:08 no, not a feature May 25 17:40:51 what do I write in the bugreport? can't explain what the bug in ipkg is May 25 17:41:05 either the depmod intercept needs to be made to run first, or it needs an intercept for modprobe as well May 25 17:41:25 the former is probably the right thing May 25 17:43:18 hm, still beyond my league, i'm not very familiar with all the internals of installing things May 25 17:44:24 what about adding depmod -a to kernel.bbclass before the modprobe ? May 25 17:45:10 s/-a/-A/ May 25 17:46:45 no, it's already there May 25 17:46:57 the problem is that ipkg is defeating that depmod call by mistake May 25 17:57:10 koen, zecke: i tried builing gcc-4.1.1 with your patches but it fails on installing for me May 25 17:57:21 err on packaging May 25 18:00:04 TheCan: feel free to pastebin May 25 18:00:15 TheCan: but I have not even tried gcc4.1.1 myself May 25 18:00:59 TheCan: how 'fit' are you with NetBSD? May 25 18:01:22 zecke, well..."partly fit" i would say :D May 25 18:01:36 later all May 25 18:01:51 pb__: cya May 25 18:02:11 TheCan: well, is there a way I can make the installer install on a nfs volume? May 25 18:02:14 http://pastebin.com/737587 May 25 18:02:24 TheCan: as I have a disk-less system (SHARK/DNARD) May 25 18:02:28 zecke, simply mount it? May 25 18:02:36 apart from that don?t use the installer, you don?t need it May 25 18:02:49 you can extract the .tgz archives directly May 25 18:02:57 good point May 25 18:03:10 all you have to do afterwards is May 25 18:03:15 sh MAKEDEV all in /dev May 25 18:03:25 and put rc_configured=YES in /etc/rc.conf May 25 18:03:27 TheCan: it looks like koen didn't test with sh3 ;) May 25 18:03:59 zecke, what is the problem with it? just one missing directory? May 25 18:04:17 TheCan: to tell you the truth, I don't know May 25 18:04:27 /usr/bin/install: target `/home/user/Desktop/bb/build/tmp/work/sh3-linux/gcc-4.1.1-r0/image/usr/libexec/gcc/sh3-linux/4.1.1/install-tools/mkinstalldirs' is not a directory May 25 18:04:34 this looks like the first error encountered May 25 18:04:36 and then the missing file May 25 18:10:22 zecke: how's the dot thing going? May 25 18:11:24 koen: calculating the world tree :) May 25 18:11:39 eps output? May 25 18:11:48 koen: png atm May 25 18:12:07 koen: there are some issues though May 25 18:12:56 isn't generating eps loads faster? May 25 18:12:57 zecke: you're performing a graphical (dep?) tree May 25 18:13:18 koen, any clue about my gcc-4.1.1 problem? May 25 18:13:30 nope May 25 18:13:47 koen: it is calculating the tree, not generating output May 25 18:13:54 all: if org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads, should I look up the latest merge or just wait a little? ;-) May 25 18:14:06 likewise: bitbake -g virtual/libqte2 May 25 18:14:23 likewise: will generate two graphs one for DEPENDS and one for RDEPENDS (not atm...) May 25 18:14:39 monotone: misuse: branch 'org.openembedded.dev' is merged May 25 18:14:39 pb__: wrote a short bug report (1659). not sure if it is clear enough. please update if neede May 25 18:14:39 likewise: just post to IRC and someone will fix it -- just a min ... May 25 18:15:16 likewise: I suspect one of the heads is your commit May 25 18:15:48 koen: newbie on the block... May 25 18:17:04 likewise: the servers seem to be single-headed ATM. May 25 18:17:55 cbrake: yes, I had local stuff committed I forgot about. Wish monotone was a bit more talkative to me. May 25 18:18:30 likewise: yeah, it takes a little bit to get used to. May 25 18:19:09 cbrake: yep. I have to learn five distributed VCS at once now that everyone is rolling their own system :-) May 25 18:19:28 Frg: check head of the plamtop.bbclass? May 25 18:19:42 Frg: if you use multithreaded QtE you need to define a variable May 25 18:20:00 likewise: heh, Have you read through the following yet: http://venge.net/monotone/downloads/codecon-2006.pdf May 25 18:20:26 likewise: helps understand what the Monotone folks are trying to accomplish. May 25 18:21:02 cbrake: reading while pulling :-) May 25 18:21:20 cbrake: relaxed doc men... cool... *-) May 25 18:23:37 "Moral: May 25 18:23:37 Use software written by May 25 18:23:37 crazy paranoid people." May 25 18:24:09 koen: wow mtn 0.26 vs. 0.26+1 is ~10 minutes faster on pulling May 25 18:24:14 koen: 22min vs. 12min May 25 18:24:24 yeah May 25 18:24:30 that's the new delta inversion code May 25 18:25:24 njs: I'm going to implement a rdiff feature. do we have that already? May 25 18:31:28 zecke: did you see garage.maemo.org? May 25 18:32:08 no May 25 18:32:56 gforge? May 25 18:33:39 koen, we have mtn 0.26 repo's now ? May 25 18:33:45 Philippe: no May 25 18:33:47 zecke: yes May 25 18:33:50 Philippe: no May 25 18:33:57 Philippe: now that familiar split up we can switch May 25 18:33:59 EXTRA_QMAKEVARS_POST += '${@base_conditional("PALMTOP_USE_MULTITHREADED_QT", "yes", "CONFIG+=thread", "CONFIG-=thread",d)}' May 25 18:34:09 (from palmtop.bbclass) May 25 18:34:09 Frg: read! May 25 18:34:19 * Frg reads May 25 18:34:19 Frg: what is the comment saying? May 25 18:34:26 ah ok. Good because I am still reverting everything up to 0.25 so that my changes don't go to bit-heaven May 25 18:35:15 Philippe: well, we will provide a guide how to keep private changes May 25 18:35:18 ok... define that in shell or where? May 25 18:35:47 (still doesnt explain why i ended up with mt version...) May 25 18:35:57 zecke, ok fine. Anyway now I really need to get those gtk-webcore patches in... May 25 18:36:18 Frg: did you set a preferred provider? May 25 18:36:21 in to .dev, right? May 25 18:36:39 Frg: if not BitBake mentioned that it has two (and can select any) May 25 18:37:11 all: Should we remove all traces of familiar as they have decided to walk the one way street? May 25 18:37:12 ah.. so thats teh cause May 25 18:37:41 zecke: let's wait a bit May 25 18:38:17 koen: at least putting BROKEN=1 in familiar-unstable.conf? May 25 18:38:38 no May 25 18:38:49 we have a non-working for that May 25 18:39:00 users almost never look inside the files May 25 18:39:33 the whole concept of BROKEN=1 is broken as long as bitbake doesn't give out huge warnings when encountering that flag May 25 18:40:57 Philippe: while you patch in OE May 25 18:41:11 Philippe: could you add a patch to gpesyncd? May 25 18:41:28 zecke, still pulling... May 25 18:41:57 zecke, but send me the patch anyway. I can push it in GPE CVS May 25 18:42:04 Philippe: it is in GPE CVS May 25 18:42:10 Philippe: but due the SRCDATE May 25 18:42:18 Philippe: many things are still broken :( May 25 18:42:54 zecke, still quite a lot of revisions to deal with May 25 18:43:36 :( May 25 18:43:44 mtn 0.27 will be a hell lot faster May 25 18:44:00 >10 times May 25 18:46:05 zecke: from what I see at least one familiar dev is still working on pushing changes to OE. May 25 18:46:28 JustinP: Erik, but first to the branch May 25 18:46:53 after huge amounts of pushing May 25 18:47:21 okay, I will wait then May 25 18:48:39 ouch May 25 18:48:46 hey all May 25 18:48:55 KenJlime: root? May 25 18:49:09 koen: doh May 25 18:49:12 brb May 25 18:49:23 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r406934f5... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Merge of fix in oz354fam083 branch for familair bug 1606. May 25 18:49:28 03erik 07org.oe.dev * rb1db4ad6... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb: Phil's fix for glibc and mmap_threshold default. May 25 18:49:33 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r2d6f8bd4... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Backing out PARPORT config since it causes oops on h3600. May 25 18:49:37 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r311aee6b... 10/packages/kbdd/files/kbdd.init: May 25 18:49:37 The init script says it has restart in the usage. But it didn't May 25 18:49:37 have a restart in its list of cases. So this patch adds it. May 25 18:49:48 oh May 25 18:49:51 erik merges :} May 25 18:49:52 lol May 25 18:50:54 hmm May 25 18:51:04 i hope the patches are ok May 25 18:51:23 we can always revert May 25 18:51:25 *cough* May 25 18:51:28 heh May 25 18:51:29 better patch gcc-4.1.1 so it packages correctly on sh3 :-) May 25 18:51:32 that wouldn't look good :) May 25 18:51:39 TheCan: get us a SH3 machine ;) May 25 18:51:55 hey Ken|JLime May 25 18:51:59 hey May 25 18:51:59 zecke, you don?t need one for testing this May 25 18:53:23 koen: did you get my pubkey? May 25 18:53:45 aha May 25 18:53:55 there where a few things wrong with it May 25 18:54:18 replace 'xxx' with your name and I think your not emma ;) May 25 18:55:03 in the titel you mean? May 25 18:56:33 ah, will send it again May 25 18:58:11 koen: done, let me know if its correct this time May 25 19:02:33 03erik 07org.oe.dev * r84157919... 10/packages/gpe-package/ (3 files in 2 dirs): May 25 19:02:33 gpe-package 0.3 | GPE Settings: fixes the use of gpe-package having to be root May 25 19:02:33 * provides a script to be installed in /usr/bin that wraps gpe-package May 25 19:02:33 launching in gpe-su May 25 19:02:33 * patches the gpe-package makefile to install gpe-package in /usr/sbin May 25 19:02:33 and strips the setuid bit (and execute bits from group and other). May 25 19:02:38 * removes the postinst script that added the setuid bit. May 25 19:26:34 cupsd segfault on NSLU2 :-( May 25 19:32:11 * njs wonders what rdiff is May 25 19:33:02 ~lart gnome May 25 19:33:02 * ibot squishes gnome like a bug May 25 19:33:26 what absolute crap this all is May 25 19:33:42 njs: see the diff between 'upstream server' and local db May 25 19:38:37 CosmicPenguin: ain't guis fun? May 25 19:39:07 configure: error: May 25 19:39:07 | Cannot find required GStreamer-0.10 plugin 'playbin'. May 25 19:39:07 | It should be part of gst-plugins-base. Please install it. May 25 19:39:09 * CosmicPenguin shrugs May 25 19:46:01 hi May 25 19:46:10 hey ade|desk May 25 19:46:20 still enjoying uclibc? May 25 19:46:36 nope .. i've cocked upsomething May 25 19:47:12 tmp/work/gcc-cross-4.1.0-r1/temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.16464: line 503: syntax error near unexpected token `(' May 25 19:47:23 any ideas on tracking this down ? May 25 19:47:34 ehm May 25 19:47:38 * koen tries to remember May 25 19:47:52 try using 'monotone diff' to find stray qoutes May 25 19:47:57 like ' and " May 25 19:48:44 ok will try , cheers May 25 19:49:35 you can trigger that error in various ways and most of them have nothing to do with patching May 25 19:50:12 last time it happened to me I just started with a new tree May 25 19:53:27 yay, stray " as you said May 25 19:53:33 in gcc3-build.inc May 25 19:54:09 i quite like mtn nowadays May 25 19:54:32 when do we brave 0.26 and the like ? May 25 19:54:48 or is 0.27 the one to wait for ? May 25 19:55:27 we need to activate the migrate plan first May 25 19:55:40 to inform all vendors with private branches May 25 19:56:10 5and by that time 0.27 will be out I guess :) May 25 19:56:14 is there a way to run trees side by side and sync between then ? May 25 19:56:40 withint the same monotone version? May 25 19:56:55 or .25 <> .26? May 25 19:57:39 .25 > something >.26 >something >.25 May 25 19:58:00 there is a way, but not a convienent one May 25 19:58:10 shame May 25 19:58:45 morning May 25 19:59:08 i hope not ;) May 25 19:59:10 hey hrw May 25 20:00:58 ~curse linux May 25 20:01:00 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, linux ! May 25 20:01:31 that is way to close to the mark ibot May 25 20:01:48 something oopsed, killed mencoder which grab stuff from TV.. and now restart is needed to use bttv May 25 20:02:07 in moments like this I hate^Wvery dont like linux May 25 20:02:45 welcome in MS Windows world... May 25 20:04:19 eek May 25 20:04:31 oooooh nice error coming up ... note to self bitbake in screen over vpn is not a good idea May 25 20:05:31 ade|desk: add 'gprs' somewhere in the chain and it's even more fun May 25 20:05:32 what is the best way to have OE build a package with debugging symbols included? May 25 20:05:55 cbrake: iirc there's something in local.conf.sample or bitbake.conf May 25 20:06:23 DEBUG_BUILD = 1 (iirc) May 25 20:06:33 cbrake: two fields in local.conf.sample May 25 20:06:42 hmm need to find go go juice for laptop..screen fade May 25 20:06:57 # DEBUG_BUILD = "1" May 25 20:06:57 # INHIBIT_PACKAGE_STRIP = "1" May 25 20:07:18 cbrake: NOTE: package pcre-4.4-r4: task do_build: completed May 25 20:07:29 hrw: great :-) May 25 20:08:48 thanks for the debugging info, I'll give it a try. Cups is segfaulting on me and strace does not tell me anything useful ... May 25 20:10:50 cbrake: but this fix is discussed again and again in bugtracker ;( May 25 20:11:53 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r555c062e... 10/packages/nbd/ (files/cross-compile.patch nbd_2.8.4.bb): (log message trimmed) May 25 20:11:53 packages/nbd/: Add Network Block Device Client and Server version 2.8.4 May 25 20:11:53 Add client and server of the Network Block Device. This is May 25 20:11:53 version 2.8.4, it does not have the security issue a unpatched May 25 20:11:53 2.8.3 has. May 25 20:11:54 We package nbd-client and nbd-server separately and for the May 25 20:11:58 nbd-client we currently do not have a start script. So on May 25 20:12:14 hrw: the fix for pcre? May 25 20:12:26 cbrake: yes - #33 in bugtracker May 25 20:15:44 heh, swap over usbnet May 25 20:16:06 koen: something which you always dreamt of? May 25 20:16:22 not really May 25 20:17:29 my friends with a javastation were using it May 25 20:17:51 why created the gcc 4.1.1 packages?? May 25 20:17:53 who May 25 20:18:03 Ken|JLime: I did May 25 20:18:09 apparently it fails on sh3 May 25 20:18:13 koen: big thx man :D just made my day May 25 20:18:20 it fixed some segfaults, and works wonderfully May 25 20:18:26 ah, cool May 25 20:18:43 yeah, should be able to do opie-images now, hopefully May 25 20:24:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2d6d863c... 10/conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf: Angstrom 2006.9: use gcc 4.1.1 to get real eabi, so it won't work on armv4 cpus May 25 20:25:00 koen: will DISTRO='angstrom-2006.9' fail if machine != arm5t+? May 25 20:26:36 cbrake: NOTE: package cherokee-0.5.3-r0: task do_build: completed May 25 20:27:06 cbrake: now time to split it into packages better May 25 20:30:35 hrw: excellent May 25 20:31:05 ~lart libtool May 25 20:31:06 * ibot drops a baby grand on libtool May 25 20:31:34 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams May 25 20:36:06 "Best random string generator: a newbie trying to close vi." May 25 20:36:51 haha May 25 20:37:06 re May 25 20:37:24 (22:51:13) hrw: "Best random string generator: a newbie trying to close vi." May 25 20:37:40 hehe May 25 20:37:51 hrw: vi was really tough :} May 25 20:40:23 ZZ roxx May 25 20:42:07 koen: just wanted to say that I spawned a completely fresh pull + build with gcc 4.1.1 and do_stage() does not loop in glibc-intermediate. I am confused now :-/ May 25 20:42:23 koen: it is still generating the graph :} May 25 20:42:27 hrw: armv4t works as well, but you can't use it on armv4 yet May 25 20:42:34 zecke: I noticed May 25 20:42:40 likewise: I bet it will loop in glibc May 25 20:42:47 koen: is it 'fine' or should I jill it? May 25 20:42:54 network simplex: 170100 170200 170300 170400 170500 170600 170700 170800 170900 171000 May 25 20:43:00 just ~8000 more edges May 25 20:43:01 zecke: it's fine by me May 25 20:43:26 zecke: I'm not using ewi now too May 25 20:43:35 koen: I am not betting with you, I'ld rather play russian roullete than play with glibc. May 25 20:43:43 JustinP: ping May 25 20:43:48 s/roullete/roulette May 25 20:43:54 zecke: problem solved, opie-bluepin was missing -lopiebluez2 ... nm rules ;) May 25 20:44:01 hmm May 25 20:44:06 weird error message :} May 25 20:44:15 Frg: thanks for spotting it May 25 20:44:22 Frg: I'm now compiling gcc... May 25 20:44:37 zecke: is opie still using qmake? May 25 20:44:47 zecke: smake is much better, because s>q ;) May 25 20:44:48 still? :) May 25 20:45:08 koen: Opie won't switch May 25 20:45:16 lol May 25 20:45:24 hrw: pong May 25 20:45:26 koen: for the future I would consider bksys,cmake and probably even autootols May 25 20:45:36 * CoreDump|home wonders how the very first "compiler" was "compiled" May 25 20:45:46 CoreDump|home: hehe May 25 20:45:49 so what's better than tmake? ;] May 25 20:46:42 the first compiler was so complex it only took a piece of paper and perforated tape ;) May 25 20:47:55 Frg: and his name was Turing? May 25 20:48:32 those were his days, yeah ;] May 25 20:48:51 JustinP: what is a status of #33 fix currently? May 25 20:49:15 CosmicPenguin: binary code, then ASM, etc May 25 20:49:57 * hrw goes back to fixing - bbiab May 25 20:49:58 hrw: I have no idea. I don't have an amd64 to test on any more. Someone removed my sed hack from before May 25 20:50:36 * CoreDump|home hugs samba May 25 20:50:48 CoreDump|home: finally got it working eh? :) May 25 20:51:02 yeah May 25 20:51:03 ext2resize is taking ages... May 25 20:51:07 congratz May 25 20:51:10 v8jlene: found the bug =) May 25 20:52:10 Ken|JLime: http://hentges.net/tmp/screenshots/Zaurus/Poodle/Misc/samba-essential.jpg <- should have thought of something like that earlier heh May 25 20:53:15 :D May 25 20:55:24 * Frg was thinking about a nokia 770... May 25 20:55:49 * Frg is now more into ipaq hx 4700 May 25 20:56:25 any better suggestions? May 25 20:56:45 and yes, screen resolution does matter May 25 20:56:50 koen: done May 25 20:56:54 zecke: what about blacklisting quilt and stuff? May 25 20:57:03 zecke: I read you blog already :) May 25 20:57:21 now show us the png :) May 25 20:57:44 png, the final proof May 25 20:58:08 dot: allocating a 1797590K PaletteColor GD image May 25 20:58:08 gd-png error: unable to allocate rows May 25 20:58:22 *pulls hairs* May 25 20:58:26 eps? May 25 20:58:31 koen: BitBake does not know about quilt May 25 20:58:34 koen: using svg now May 25 20:59:48 bitbake doesnt brake things, people do May 25 21:00:32 koen: it would be like May 25 21:00:44 bitbake -g world -e "quilt-native virtual/libc" May 25 21:00:52 yeah, something like that May 25 21:03:44 build error in libstd++ ...doh May 25 21:03:50 bedtime May 25 21:03:55 'night ade|desk May 25 21:04:02 night all May 25 21:04:25 uclibc fun continues tomorrow May 25 21:07:24 time for some sleep, good night May 25 21:09:44 nite May 25 21:10:48 uf.. fixed May 25 21:10:53 fscking plastic parts May 25 21:12:43 Frg|zzZZzzzz: cya May 25 21:21:31 hey May 25 21:21:45 hi Crofton benlau May 25 21:22:16 s/benlau/Bernardo/ May 25 21:27:12 hi Harvy May 25 21:27:26 s/Harvy/hrw May 25 21:27:27 :) May 25 21:27:29 ;D May 25 21:27:44 tab completion has its problems... May 25 21:27:50 yep May 25 21:28:01 got to go now... see you guys tomorrow May 25 21:28:43 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb3548a7d... 10/packages/cherokee/ (5 files in 2 dirs): cherokee: added 0.5.3 with GnuTLS support May 25 21:31:12 mickeyl: could you take a look at #918 again? May 25 21:31:24 mickeyl: I have added a backport and would like to have it backported May 25 21:32:30 mickeyl: I will send reply with address to our donor May 25 21:49:19 easiest way to tell bitbake to skip one package? May 25 21:49:26 want to build opie-image, but without the kernel May 25 21:49:46 assume_provided May 25 21:50:09 not in a config file, but in the command line bitbake May 25 21:50:28 then do not know May 25 21:51:02 oki, but the assume_provided, would be like assume_provided =...? May 25 21:51:41 += May 25 21:52:06 and for lets say gcc, that would be? assume_provided += gcc ? May 25 21:52:25 that kind May 25 21:52:27 Ken|JLime, i?m in here too :D May 25 21:52:56 :D May 25 22:00:36 now time to test pcre fix on !arm May 25 22:06:27 'night all May 25 22:06:34 n8 koen May 25 22:06:57 nite May 25 22:08:13 monotone: this is almost certainly a bug in monotone. mehhh May 25 22:11:51 CoreDump|home: what did you do? May 25 22:12:12 tried to merge my tree after a pull May 25 22:12:17 hmm/cr May 25 22:13:27 CoreDump|home: how goes poodle/2.6? May 25 22:14:00 I'm almost done with it. Only the kernel is lacking... May 25 22:14:19 we will get another poodle soon May 25 22:14:46 lol? 3 yrs w/o a single poodle then we get 3 in like two month May 25 22:15:20 CoreDump|home: if everything will go right I will soon have 5 Z models here May 25 22:15:33 :D May 25 22:15:37 5 is impressive ;) May 25 22:15:40 where do you get them from? May 25 22:15:52 5500, 5600, 6000, 760, 3000 May 25 22:16:03 Ken|JLime: donated to OZ project May 25 22:16:24 Ken|JLime: will have to find someone who will work on getting them supported May 25 22:16:37 hrw: tosa =D May 25 22:16:45 * CoreDump|home congratulates hrw May 25 22:17:25 hrw: nice :D May 25 22:17:33 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r8ac48470... 10/packages/ (7 files in 3 dirs): Unslung slingbox: upgrade slingbox to 1.1.3 busybox base May 25 22:17:35 soon wcf54g too - have to get it working May 25 22:17:52 driver exist but can be nasty to build May 25 22:17:57 hrw: whats the main problem? or just getting them to build nicely on OE? May 25 22:18:00 * CoreDump|home has 5500, 5600 & 1000 May 25 22:18:18 Ken|JLime: more fixing their runtime problems May 25 22:18:38 Ken|JLime: like many pcmcia drivers they are writen to be built with pcmcia-cs source not kernel ones May 25 22:19:00 aha May 25 22:19:30 Ken|JLime: I tried to build them in past but failed - then OZ was to release May 25 22:19:41 :) May 25 22:19:50 all: are there any Flash (swf) players or libraries in OE? May 25 22:19:59 CoreDump|home: do we have many 3.5.3.1 blockers? May 25 22:20:06 likewise: iirc none May 25 22:20:29 not to my knowledge May 25 22:20:30 hrw: what does a used poodle cost btw? never tried one May 25 22:20:32 hrw: I remember seeing a flash player/library lately, but forgot the URL --- checking history. May 25 22:20:42 likewise: gnash? May 25 22:20:51 Ken|JLime: avoid it! May 25 22:20:56 hehe May 25 22:21:00 Ken|JLime: no kidding May 25 22:21:00 lol May 25 22:21:05 hrw: nope different one May 25 22:21:15 Ken|JLime: 5600 (poodle) is worst supported Z ever May 25 22:21:15 bad? May 25 22:21:23 ah May 25 22:21:49 Ken|JLime: even sl-a300 is better ;) so rare that noone nearly worked on it (except crazy japs) May 25 22:22:18 ahem, cardctl is back? May 25 22:22:18 hrw: it isn't too bad w/ 2.6 May 25 22:22:26 go x2 go.... I want to see failing pcre today May 25 22:22:35 hrw: still looking for a nice hardware to someday replace my jornadas. May 25 22:22:55 but only 32M of RAM positively stinks May 25 22:22:57 CoreDump|home: it is back - too much time need to be wasted on getting pcmciautils working like we had with pcmcia-cs May 25 22:23:08 Ken|JLime: sl-c1000 (akita) May 25 22:23:45 hrw: =( udev was easier on altboot+NFS May 25 22:24:06 hrw: nice :D May 25 22:24:06 yeah, Akita is a _damn_ nice machine May 25 22:24:56 whats the machine on the right? http://www.k3.dion.ne.jp/~oku/LOVELOG_IMG/M200508255c1d6681.jpg May 25 22:25:13 i dunno, they are pretty funny looking dogs :P May 25 22:25:33 black labrador? May 25 22:25:47 hrw: http://www.schleef.org/swfdec/ May 25 22:25:48 an akita May 25 22:26:29 emte: thought the akita was the one on the left? May 25 22:26:50 it is, emte was talking about dogs =) May 25 22:26:52 hrw: x2? May 25 22:26:58 hrw: AMD 64 X2? May 25 22:27:05 CoreDump|home: ah May 25 22:27:10 zecke: I got account on such machine May 25 22:27:22 hrw: that is pretty new ;) May 25 22:27:30 hrw: I plan to get one as desktop May 25 22:27:30 http://hentges.net/tmp/photos/Akita/ ;) May 25 22:27:33 zecke: a64 x2 3800+ May 25 22:27:47 atta boy.. :) May 25 22:28:11 zecke: I'm thinking where to get cash to get a64 3000+ atleast (cheapest s939 amd64 platform) May 25 22:28:58 hrw: hehe, see my blog. I'm considering asking for donations :} May 25 22:30:17 hrw: got any pictures of poodle? May 25 22:30:38 nevermind, just got to ebay May 25 22:31:20 zecke: your current machine is donated? May 25 22:31:51 fsck... linux-uclibc -> bitbake pcre = 29m on x2 3800+.... May 25 22:32:05 hrw: most of it May 25 22:32:22 hrw: CPU from Helge Deller, board by donations May 25 22:32:47 and Erik and Treke were donators as well :} May 25 22:32:57 hrw: boohoo May 25 22:32:59 Erik H? May 25 22:33:05 yes May 25 22:33:11 :} May 25 22:33:28 JustinP: and thats only 2GHz under cooler... May 25 22:33:47 whats a good price for an Zaurus SL-C3100? May 25 22:34:08 Ken|JLime: http://pricejapan.com/ iirc May 25 22:36:29 * hrw paid ~300 eur for sl-5500 May 25 22:37:34 Ken|JLime: I paid AUD$750 for my C3100 May 25 22:37:50 zecke: which var contain "${TARGET_ARCH}-${TARGET_OS}"? May 25 22:38:23 hrw: dunno, will check bitbake.conf May 25 22:38:55 hrw: none May 25 22:39:03 TARGET_SYS = "${TARGET_ARCH}${TARGET_VENDOR}-${TARGET_OS}" May 25 22:39:18 thats it May 25 22:40:55 Oki, They seem quite nice. Want one with a big keyboard though. Hate fiddling with small ones. May 25 22:41:49 hrw: Do you got a nice one, I might want to buy it :) May 25 22:41:57 Ken|JLime: What I've done with mine is get a USB OTG cable, and an external keyboard May 25 22:42:27 * hrw has ir keyboard - need to get t working May 25 22:42:49 * CoreDump|home has......SSH ;) May 25 22:43:08 * hrw have only one computer at home ;( May 25 22:43:36 Just need to make a bracket to attach to the bottom of the keyboard to set the Z in.. May 25 22:43:38 mickeyl: qte-mt 2.3.10 built nicely using 4.1.1, so will make that default in jlime-donkey.conf May 25 22:43:54 so when Ania want to use comp (or watch tv which is same) I get c760, put wifi card inside, run wpa-supplicant and going ircing May 25 22:44:02 Ken|JLime: good to know May 25 22:44:03 good nite May 25 22:44:08 mickeyl: n8 May 25 22:44:08 nite May 25 22:44:13 mickeyl: got mail? May 25 22:44:17 mickeyl: nite! May 25 22:44:33 hrw: ya. fine with me :) go and take all the hardware, i'm already drowning in it :) May 25 22:44:46 mickey|zzZZzz: ;D May 25 22:44:51 :) May 25 22:45:33 I could deserve a device with a keyboard, but I'm already in the queue for 'mickeyl's' c700er May 25 22:45:51 night May 25 22:45:54 shit.. I got kdiff3 started at work... May 25 22:46:00 zecke: want c760? May 25 22:47:19 hrw: once I finish my first in uni mickeyl will send me te c-750er project device May 25 22:47:24 tired May 25 22:47:31 once I finish my first exam in uni... May 25 22:47:35 ah - forgot about that one May 25 22:48:03 zecke: kind of reward? May 25 22:48:24 hrw: no, I want to make sure not to have another distraction from learning May 25 22:48:35 good point May 25 22:49:33 Sharp Zaurus SL-C1000 for 130Euro? May 25 22:49:44 Ken|JLime: nice price May 25 22:49:52 Ken|JLime: stolen one? May 25 22:50:05 import from china, shipping costs additional 45 May 25 22:50:21 http://cgi.ebay.com/Sharp-Zaurus-SL-C1000-PDA-BRAND-NEW-BOXED-IN-UK_W0QQitemZ9732024409QQcategoryZ38331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting May 25 22:50:44 ~change 30878 jpy to eur May 25 22:50:49 30,878.00 Yen (JPY) makes 215.6975 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) May 25 23:01:31 * CosmicPenguin kicks gstreamer May 25 23:01:32 hard May 25 23:01:39 right in the jimmy! May 25 23:02:45 all: who was reporting in the endlessly looping glibc 2.4 do_stage() yesterday? I cannot get it debugged. May 25 23:06:55 likewise: just writes staging/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi/include/limits.h over and over again? May 25 23:07:24 likewise: Noodles wrote about it on OE ML May 25 23:07:30 hrw: yes, that was the first error. I could get around that. now, pthreads-error.h May 25 23:10:17 hrw: searching, thanks May 25 23:10:53 hrw: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/current/8991.html May 25 23:12:13 anyone know of a non diet-x11 for OZ 3.5.4 May 25 23:13:07 no - we use diet-x11 for oz 3.5.4 May 25 23:14:06 I know but there's that option...and I figured someone had tried it...Am I correct in saying "not all X11 apps will compile in diet-x11"? May 25 23:14:37 if something does not then we try to change it May 25 23:14:57 diet-x11 are few times smaller then normal ones May 25 23:16:03 i like to swim against the tide...I want a native compile environment on my Z thats as easy to use as my desktop... May 25 23:16:15 diet-x11 doesnt give me that May 25 23:17:19 time to bed May 25 23:17:20 cu May 25 23:17:23 01:30 here May 25 23:18:23 argghh ... net disconnect must be fate May 25 23:19:12 any suggestions on the non diet - 3.5.3 worked with the debian x libs but Im not sure if 3.5.4 would May 25 23:27:58 likewise: same problem here and quite stuck on this :-/ May 25 23:28:25 cyrilRomain: where are you stuck? limits.h? May 25 23:28:42 likewise: yes May 25 23:28:55 cyrilRomain: I can get you past that one May 25 23:29:25 likewise: I read you hardcoded tls in makerules, is it right ? May 25 23:29:39 cyrilRomain: yes. I cd to build/tmp/work/arm-linux-gnueabi/glibc-2.4-r5/glibc-2.4 May 25 23:29:53 likewise: ok, I see May 25 23:30:06 can't you do the same for pthread ? May 25 23:30:36 likewise: "config-tls := thread" ? May 25 23:30:39 cyrilRomain: Around line 322, I removed the line starting with May 25 23:30:57 cyrilRomain: Around line 322, I removed the line starting with -include, thereafter set config-tls to yes, and config-thread to yes May 25 23:31:27 likewise: line 1228 ? May 25 23:31:39 cyrilRomain: sorry, in Makerules May 25 23:31:46 cyrilRomain: sorry, in Makerules: around line 322 May 25 23:32:14 cyrilRomain: no you are right, 1228 May 25 23:32:25 cyrilRomain: (I have too many open windows :-) May 25 23:33:18 likewise: i tried it but loop problem always there :-/ (but I did not look to see if it went further) May 25 23:33:53 so this remove the limits.h but there is still a loop due to thread-errno.h ? May 25 23:33:57 cyrilRomain: I do a tail -f on the temp/log.do_stage file which is there. May 25 23:34:29 cyrilRomain: yes, when make is doing "install-headers" in nptl, it loops again. May 25 23:37:09 likewise: hum... this is really strange because 1 week ago, glibc2.4 compiled without problems May 25 23:38:44 cyrilRomain: good to know. However, I do not know how to see with monotone what changed in the glibc dir. I just tried monotone log org.openembedded.dev/packages/glibc without luck. May 25 23:39:31 * cyrilRomain looks in viewmtn May 25 23:41:01 * cyrilRomain look for a version that worked in http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/ May 25 23:43:07 cyrilRomain: This version compiled OK here: 953b27f3fde0c6c63190674f1232e712c0f58d35 May 25 23:46:54 likewise: ok, which date it correspond to ? May 25 23:47:12 * cyrilRomain don't remember the day it start to loop, ~1 week ago May 25 23:47:38 cyrilRomain: I do not know how I can see. I have written it down in my build.sh which starts the build. May 25 23:47:48 I think it is more than one week old. May 25 23:47:59 cyrilRomain: about two weeks is my best gues May 25 23:48:01 +s May 25 23:49:01 cyrilRomain: it's from May 12th 2006 May 25 23:49:06 likewise: well ok. time to pull to this revision and to diff May 25 23:49:10 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=953b27f3fde0c6c63190674f1232e712c0f58d35 May 25 23:49:20 likewise: thanks May 25 23:50:22 cyrilRomain: what machine,distro combo do you test? May 25 23:50:33 cyrilRomain: angstrom-2006.9, ep93xx here May 25 23:50:34 loop started between the 15th and the 19th May 25 23:50:45 likewise: angstrom-2006.9, tosa here May 25 23:58:05 likewise: no suspicious changes in angstrom-2006.9.conf May 25 23:58:39 cyrilRomain: koen mentioned to me the last patch was the arm-longlong patch May 25 23:59:27 likewise: what is the arm-longlong patch ? when koen did applied it ? May 26 00:00:05 cyrilRomain: it's in packages/glibc/glibc-2.4 somewhere. May 26 00:00:21 cyrilRomain: I do not know when it was applied. I am looking. May 26 00:00:41 likewise: ok, I'm starting diff in glibc/glibc-2.4 now May 26 00:03:07 cyrilRomain: curious what you find, I find nothing for glibc-2.4... May 26 00:05:01 nite May 26 00:05:10 nite zecke May 26 00:05:25 nite May 26 00:05:46 likewise: well, no change in glibc-2.4 May 26 00:06:22 cyrilRomain: I found a change in gcc: May 26 00:06:31 SRC_URI_append_fail-fast = " file://zecke-no-host-includes.patch;patch=1 " May 26 00:06:40 zecke: still here? :-) May 26 00:06:58 about to move to bed May 26 00:07:35 zecke: good. we are hunting down the glibc build loop, we try without your patch no-host-include patch. Maybe glibc was broken from the start. May 26 00:07:42 zecke: Good nite! Sleep tight May 26 00:08:03 zecke: nite May 26 00:08:18 likewise: I would be schocked if that patch would influence anything May 26 00:09:13 zecke: ok May 26 00:09:27 cyrilRomain: maybe we should do a binary search? May 26 00:09:37 start with 17-5-2006? May 26 00:09:48 and go back or forward from there May 26 00:10:13 well, we can stick with this version (12 march) May 26 00:11:25 we are both sure that no loop was here on 12th may May 26 00:11:32 s/march/may May 26 00:13:12 yes, but I would like to find the change that made it go bad May 26 00:14:45 cyrilRomain: shouldn't you be in bed by now? :-) May 26 00:15:16 likewise: yes, but I don't work tomorow :) May 26 00:15:51 likewise: and this bug block me since too long May 26 00:16:18 cyrilRomain: I am thinking of building a 17-5 snapshot tonight May 26 00:16:45 to make diff on tmp/work/* files ? May 26 00:17:43 well, ok you're right, then I'll build a 16-5 or 18-5 snapshot tonight May 26 00:17:46 to see if it loops, if so, I go to 15-5 May 26 00:26:18 * cyrilRomain on 18-5 it definitiely loop (i'm looking in IRC logs) May 26 00:29:21 cyrilRomain: ok, so 12-17 May 26 00:30:06 likewise: hum... yes May 26 00:30:34 I'm quite sure the problem started on 15-5 or 16-5, so 12-17 is ok May 26 00:30:49 or even 12 - 18 May 26 00:31:48 cyrilRomain: seems http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/viewmtn/ crashed... May 26 00:32:19 likewise: Doh ! May 26 00:32:33 well, this will be more difficult to test May 26 00:32:52 s/test/get the revision id May 26 00:33:34 yes I am now using the tarballs from http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/OE/ May 26 00:33:46 likewise: oh wait, I reported some build on tinderbox last week May 26 00:36:07 likewise: ok, on 13-5, I could build a bootstap-image without problem May 26 00:37:38 cyrilRomain: okido, I will let my build (17-5 snapshot) run and start from there tomorrow. cu tommorow? May 26 00:38:17 likewise: then on 15 ipkg-cl started to segfault May 26 00:38:36 likewise: and i is not many times later that the glibc loop came May 26 00:39:02 cyrilRomain: ok, 15-18 then :-) May 26 00:39:21 cyrilRomain: I am catching some sleep. Good nite. May 26 00:39:26 so, do I build a 13-5 snapshot ? May 26 00:39:43 go for 14-5 May 26 00:39:49 good night May 26 00:39:53 cyrilRomain: Fair enough. May 26 00:39:58 likewise: yes, tomorrow I'll be there May 26 00:40:06 ok, c u then May 26 00:55:18 night all (3:00am here) May 26 00:55:53 Can somone point me where to learn how to develop in Oz ? using OE an Bitbake May 26 05:23:08 morning May 26 05:38:36 what to do so it wont download qemu cvs every day and build it again? May 26 05:43:27 yeah, me too May 26 05:47:11 I guess we could put a CVS_DATE for it May 26 06:06:27 i have enough of updating nodocs_cvs.patch every day the Makefile changes :) May 26 06:06:36 added CVSDATE May 26 06:07:26 and SRCDATE = ${CVSDATE} in qemu_cvs.bb May 26 06:08:22 Frg, lol I have same problem with nodocs patch - I just removed it May 26 06:08:35 haha May 26 06:08:38 dunno what it does that's so important anyway May 26 06:08:56 removes the man pages ;) May 26 06:09:13 cya later, afk May 26 06:09:31 later :-) May 26 06:14:27 that is the incorrect way to do it May 26 06:14:36 you define overrides in your local.conf May 26 06:15:09 you shouldnt modify bb files to lock down a cvsdate May 26 06:17:13 CVSDATE_handhelds-pxa-2.6 = "20051221" May 26 06:17:19 is an example May 26 06:17:23 of an override May 26 06:28:16 thanks emte, I had forgotten that May 26 06:29:04 is there an easy override for gcc LANGUAGES ? so I can make it not build javac for example May 26 06:30:22 ... May 26 06:30:26 are you using unstable? May 26 06:30:56 javac wont build for any non-ia32/64 as far as i know May 26 06:31:17 and is disabled for most bb files May 26 06:34:00 hi May 26 06:34:17 jacques, Frg: when did nodocs.patch started to not apply? May 26 06:36:01 emte, I'm pretty sure it just built (accidentally on my part) for powerpc May 26 06:36:29 hrw, for me over a week ago I think May 26 06:37:00 you use floating SRCDATE? May 26 06:37:29 morning all May 26 06:37:33 is qemu locked down in any distro? May 26 06:38:11 emte: oz 3.5.4x has 0.7.1 only May 26 06:39:18 this is for the qemuarm stuff May 26 06:39:28 apparently it is indeed floating May 26 06:39:41 0.8.0+cvs or somesuch May 26 06:41:13 hmm.. that patch has no sense to me May 26 06:41:21 powerpc-603e-linux-gnu-gcj - is that the java compiler ? May 26 06:41:29 yes May 26 06:41:29 it took forever to build May 26 06:41:51 hrw, for me the nodocs patch is a lot more trouble than it's worth May 26 06:42:04 ibot, seen RP May 26 06:42:16 rp is currently on #gpe (3d 13h 39m 51s) #oe (3d 13h 39m 51s) #openzaurus (3d 13h 39m 51s) #handhelds.org (3d 13h 39m 51s). Has said a total of 20 messages. Is idling for 1d 16h 19m 27s, last said: 'mickeyl: yay :)'. May 26 06:42:30 I keep meaning to ask RP about it May 26 06:43:54 jacques: looks like it ned to be dropped May 26 06:44:04 I agree May 26 06:45:20 heh, building a familiar-unstable bootstrap-image for lite5200 almost worked :-) May 26 06:45:42 that is suprising May 26 06:46:11 anyway, you not add a flag to override nodocs? May 26 06:46:14 it worked all the way til NOTE: package bootstrap-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs May 26 06:46:52 if you do it properly it will be transparent and unobtrusive May 26 06:48:10 i added the NONSYSV flag for a special case reason that normal users never see May 26 06:48:22 considering the last time (a couple months ago) I looked at powerpc support in oe I couldn't even get it to build a toolchain (probably my fault) I am rather happy May 26 06:49:30 currently the only place that it modifies things is fakeroot May 26 06:50:29 as my system cannot use fakeroot built with sysv so it switches to building it with tcp May 26 06:55:21 * hrw goes to work May 26 07:11:54 morning May 26 07:34:22 hi May 26 07:43:37 good morning all May 26 07:43:51 hi koen May 26 07:51:54 hey cyrilRomain May 26 07:53:24 will gcc4.1.0 uclibc svn works for c only c++ gets mangled by something in OE, works perfectly in buildroot May 26 07:53:30 s/will/well May 26 07:53:32 morning all May 26 07:56:41 hmm, I wouldn't say "perfectly" May 26 07:57:04 I had to enable locales to get it to build for powerpc May 26 07:57:20 which significantly increases the size May 26 07:57:41 (of libstdc++ and libc) May 26 07:58:03 you can set the locales to only build a minimum locale set in extras/locale May 26 07:58:32 I'll have to check that out May 26 07:59:46 * ade|desk heads to lab, bbl May 26 08:06:40 can you guys test my latest push (pcre fix) on misc targets? May 26 08:07:13 I got it built on arm-linux-glibc and mipsel-linux-uclibc but not tested on device May 26 08:07:19 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3395fc22... 10/packages/pcre/pcre_4.4.bb: May 26 08:07:19 pcre: stop libtool from trying to link with host libraries - fix from #33 May 26 08:07:19 - this resolve build problem on amd64 - #1015 May 26 08:07:34 that one ;) May 26 08:21:29 hrw|work: Works for me on sh4, but it worked for me prior to your change. (x86_64 Fedora Core 4 host on an AMD X2). May 26 08:22:17 ok May 26 08:23:47 Why do I have to monotone merge when the new changes didn't effect anything I've touched? Am I going to have to do this every single time I pull some new changes? May 26 08:27:47 if you committed stuff, but haven't pushed yet, yes May 26 08:31:13 koen: Ok. That could be annoying. Guess it make sense from what I know of how mt works... I get "failed, disconnecting" errors when I tried to push at the moment though. May 26 08:31:49 are you pushing to ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl? May 26 08:32:08 hi, im trying to use Xfbdev from kdrive on my poodle, but it doesnt recognize my touchscreen, how do I get that tslib calibration screen May 26 08:32:30 sws: ts_calibrate or xtscal May 26 08:33:00 koen: I tried that earlier, and then changed the default over to monotone.vanille.de and tried again. Some result in both cases. May 26 08:33:19 after ts_calibrate Xfbdev still says : selected device is not a touchscreen I understand May 26 08:35:24 v8jlene: could you try pushing to ewi546 again? May 26 08:35:31 v8jlene: I'm now watching the server console May 26 08:36:13 koen: What will happen now that I have hrw's last commit and it's not yet on ewi? Does that just mean I'll also push his change and no problems will occur? May 26 08:36:28 that doesn't really matter May 26 08:36:41 koen: Ok, will push now.. May 26 08:36:47 pushing is one-directional May 26 08:37:05 ah, hmm May 26 08:37:10 I think I know why it fails May 26 08:37:52 ok, try now May 26 08:38:10 Ok, its going.. May 26 08:38:15 monotone: allowed 'lenehan@openembedded.org' write permission for 'org.openembedded.dev' excluding '' May 26 08:38:22 I forgot to add you to the ACL May 26 08:38:50 That'd do it allright. May 26 08:38:56 Hopefully this works ok.... May 26 08:40:06 morning May 26 08:40:15 v8jlene: now do a 'monotone sync ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl org.openembedded.dev' May 26 08:40:17 hey CoreDump|home May 26 08:42:36 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r5784b72c... 10/packages/quagga/ (4 files): (log message trimmed) May 26 08:42:36 quagga: Add 0.99.4, fix bgp package name, some cleanups. May 26 08:42:36 * Added version 0.99.4 which fixes a number of bugs in the previous May 26 08:42:36 release, several critical bugs. See quagga homepage for details. May 26 08:42:36 * Fix the name of BGP package and init scripts - it should be bgpd May 26 08:42:36 not bpgd. Discovered when looking at the change log for the OWMNR May 26 08:42:40 project. May 26 08:43:09 ah right, I need to contact ifaistos about that May 26 08:44:12 hey zecke May 26 08:46:29 are --build= and --host= mainly the same thing ? May 26 08:46:30 koen: Done. Now what exactly does sync do? It's not mentioned on the MonotonePhraseBook page. Guess I better look at the monotone documentation again... May 26 08:48:24 damn, I have NFS errors again... May 26 08:50:00 v8jlene: sync = push + pull May 26 08:50:16 v8jlene: that makes sure org.oe.dev is the same on the server and your workstation May 26 08:52:26 koen: Ok, got it. It even seems to have worked without breaking anything. Thanks. May 26 08:53:39 you should also be able to push to monotone.vanille.de now May 26 08:55:18 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/05/26/amd64-switch-to-it-or-not/ May 26 08:55:41 v8jlene: you are lenehan? May 26 08:56:28 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r910736b9... 10/packages/display-brightness/ (display-brightness.sh display-brightness_1.0.0.bb): display-brightness: Use head -n 1 not head -1 to determine driver, closing bug #1004. Also fixed a problem with poodles kernel 2.6 driver and added a small help text May 26 08:56:32 hrw|work: Yep. May 26 08:56:33 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * rf58607b4... 10/packages/display-brightness/ (display-brightness.sh display-brightness_1.0.0.bb): display-brightness: Use head -n 1 not head -1 to determine driver, closing bug #1004. Also fixed a problem with poodles kernel 2.6 driver and added a small help text May 26 08:57:34 hrw|work: I upgraded from a PIII-700 to an AMD X2 4400+... it's sooo much better it's not funny. I documented my mb here: http://www.melb.apana.org.au/wiki/GAK8NUltra9 May 26 08:58:22 hmm X2, yummie! May 26 08:58:24 hrw|work: v8jlene is V8 + J (Jamie) + Lene (Lenehan). I use v8jlene in places where lenehan is taken. May 26 08:59:25 X2? May 26 08:59:30 The X2 complot? May 26 09:02:16 hail zecke May 26 09:02:46 ~lart keylaunch May 26 09:02:47 * ibot installs a bad bootloader on keylaunch and turns keylaunch into a brick May 26 09:05:35 pb__: do you remember the issues I had with NFS? May 26 09:05:47 pb__: I have them again... do you remember a resolution? May 26 09:06:49 zecke: sorry, I don't remember those issues May 26 09:06:54 what was (is) happening? May 26 09:08:17 The Shark sits at "Freeing Init Memory" May 26 09:08:25 after having mounted NFS root May 26 09:08:38 zecke: wrong permission on the nfs server? May 26 09:08:41 happended to me once May 26 09:09:57 no_root_squash :} May 26 09:10:19 hmm it looks like the Shark is making up a bogus gateway May 26 09:11:59 zecke: ah, that again May 26 09:12:06 I think you resolved it last time by reducing the rsize May 26 09:12:32 it is still 1024 and smaller than the MTU May 26 09:14:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8e490544... 10/conf/machine/h2200.conf: h2200.conf: tts/0 -> ttyS0, closes #1044 May 26 09:16:23 ah May 26 09:16:25 zecke, koen: how goes plans to migrate to 0.26+ monotone? May 26 09:16:48 my home machine will soon finish pulling 516 revs (about 2h) May 26 09:16:53 you'd have to ask zeke May 26 09:17:59 03coredump 07org.oe.oz354x * r79167c32... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (files/akita/keylaunchrc keylaunch_2.0.10.bb): keylaunch: Akita: Swap Calendar and Address key binding, closing bug #1026 May 26 09:18:03 03coredump 07org.oe.dev * r0aa8df48... 10/packages/keylaunch/ (files/akita/keylaunchrc keylaunch_2.0.10.bb): keylaunch: Akita: Swap Calendar and Address key binding, closing bug #1026 May 26 09:18:18 hrw|work: as soon as I have chatted called mickeyl (monday) May 26 09:18:28 zecke: ok May 26 09:20:27 _law_: ping May 26 09:24:24 rwhitby: hi May 26 09:28:09 morning May 26 09:28:18 hi lardman May 26 09:28:47 What should be done in situations like now where org.openembedded.dev has multiple heads? Was like this few a few hours this morning as well. May 26 09:28:47 uf.. 1h50m for 516 revs May 26 09:29:17 v8jlene: check heads and pester its creators to merge or merge by itself May 26 09:29:26 v8jlene: mt merge --lca May 26 09:30:17 CoreDump|home: I'm not sure I trust mt at this point enough to run commands I don't understand ;-) May 26 09:30:20 wow, ~6k revisions between now and the bzip'd OE.db I downloaded a couple of days ago May 26 09:30:29 try a normal 'monotone merge' first May 26 09:30:44 Silly, me, that must be the total May 26 09:30:47 Back to sleep May 26 09:31:17 koen: So in theory I do an "mt merge", it'll merge and then I should push that merge back? Assuming no conflicts? May 26 09:32:46 yes May 26 09:33:01 if you have conflicts, try the --lca option May 26 09:35:32 No conflicts. How long does it take for things to propagate between ewi and vanille? May 26 09:35:43 15 minutes May 26 09:40:55 Is one of ewi or vanille preferred? May 26 09:41:08 we most of the times push to vanille May 26 09:41:30 put that one gets wedged sometimes due to the high amount of connections May 26 09:42:53 koen: Ok, I'll change my default over. May 26 09:43:37 I first used vanille then switched to ewi (most of my OE work is on ewi) then back to vanille May 26 09:45:21 It looks to me like each of the multiple head issues in the past few hours has been caused be people pushing to the two different servers. May 26 09:45:55 /addrtoname.c:198: internal compiler error: in arm_print_operand, at config/arm/arm.c:9887 May 26 09:46:00 damn **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri May 26 09:59:56 2006