**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue May 30 02:59:57 2006 May 30 03:47:28 checking for main in -lm... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES. May 30 03:47:28 make: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 May 30 03:47:28 FATAL: oe_runmake failed May 30 03:48:54 does anybody know what is this problem ? May 30 05:04:19 hey, sup people? May 30 06:52:52 How does one go about reporting a bug in the GPE bugtracker for OE when the package you want to report a bug for isn't in the list? May 30 06:54:47 my distro openzaurus distro_version 3.5.4 path = /stuff/org.openembedded.oz354x May 30 06:55:06 monotone server = monotone.vanille.de May 30 06:55:13 pardon? May 30 06:55:32 does anybody know how to solve this problem ? May 30 06:56:15 | checking for main in -lm... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES. May 30 06:56:15 | make: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 May 30 06:56:15 | FATAL: oe_runmake failed May 30 06:56:17 salut May 30 06:56:29 hi Genesis. May 30 06:56:36 nemu_1: I for one can't help you. May 30 06:56:44 Someone else may pipe up, though. May 30 06:57:37 :) May 30 07:03:44 jtd : what type information do u need ? May 30 07:05:04 this is the next error msg. May 30 07:05:05 NOTE: Task failed: /home/stuff/build/tmp/work/gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1/temp/log.do_compile.24478 May 30 07:05:05 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1: task do_compile: failed May 30 07:06:38 i just executed a "bitbake gpe-image". May 30 07:07:17 my target is tosa(SL-C6000L). May 30 07:20:14 can't help you, nemu. I'm here for a different question, myself. May 30 07:20:17 (apologies) May 30 07:20:28 I don't think anyone's awake at this hour. May 30 07:21:47 hey ,, i am awake .. May 30 07:22:00 :-)( May 30 07:28:28 :) May 30 07:28:41 rob_w|mis : could u help me ? May 30 07:39:06 morning May 30 07:44:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9dd5006e... 10/packages/gpe-login/ (gpe-login-0.87/chvt-keylaunch.patch gpe-login_0.87.bb): gpe-login: add 0.87 May 30 07:44:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc73696be... 10/packages/libhandoff/libhandoff_cvs.bb: libhandoff: glib -> glib-2.0 May 30 07:53:22 morning May 30 07:54:30 <_law_> hi hrw|work May 30 07:54:40 nemu_1, go ask as i didnt saw any qeustion yet May 30 08:08:00 * jtd submits a bunch of bugs and goes to bed May 30 08:08:02 gnite folks May 30 08:12:26 good morning all May 30 08:20:04 hey May 30 08:20:58 rob_w|mis : i got the following error message . May 30 08:21:25 | checking for main in -lm... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES. May 30 08:21:25 | make: *** [configure-target-libstdc++-v3] Error 1 May 30 08:21:25 | FATAL: oe_runmake failed May 30 08:21:34 zecke: moin May 30 08:21:34 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1: task do_compile: failed May 30 08:21:34 ERROR: TaskFailed event exception, aborting May 30 08:21:34 NOTE: package gcc-cross-4.0.0: failed May 30 08:21:46 zecke: are you going to turn of the survey? May 30 08:22:05 yes, tomorrow? May 30 08:22:09 my distro = openzaurus distro_version = 3.5.4 machine = tosa arch = arm target = linux May 30 08:22:09 path = /stuff/org.openembedded.oz354x May 30 08:22:29 monotone server is monotone.vanille.de May 30 08:23:03 nemu_1: take a look at the config.log May 30 08:23:16 nemu_1: I have not yet seen such an error May 30 08:24:20 zecke : i couldn't found another error in log. May 30 08:25:08 nemu_1: search header, it printed you the path where configure was run :) May 30 08:25:21 <_guillermo> is there any support for dell x50v in oe? May 30 08:25:22 koen: where is the mediawiki syntax? May 30 08:25:31 _guillermo: no May 30 08:25:37 _guillermo: what is the state of the linux port? May 30 08:25:49 <_guillermo> it's not that bad May 30 08:26:28 <_guillermo> http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/DellAximX50Status May 30 08:26:43 zecke : yeah May 30 08:26:56 <_guillermo> it's such a shame that a nice hardware like that collides with a os as windows ce May 30 08:27:32 <_guillermo> I'm not a microsoft hater, but as a user, the windows ce is the worst product ever made I think May 30 08:27:47 zecke: at the mediawiki site May 30 08:27:56 koen: where there? May 30 08:28:09 koen: searching syntax gives me a french site May 30 08:28:10 zecke: I was meaning to write a sandbox and help page, but things moved a bit faster as I expected May 30 08:28:53 I hate my fellow students :} May 30 08:28:59 *loud* *noise* *annoyed* May 30 08:29:11 zecke: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial_%28Formatting%29 May 30 08:29:18 koen: I'm writing a Site that could be of interest for you May 30 08:29:27 zecke : header ? means *.h files. or printed by configure ? May 30 08:29:37 nemu_1: ? config.log ? May 30 08:29:53 nemu_1: you assume that this a known error, in contrast I have never seen it May 30 08:30:12 nemu_1: the only one who can find it out is you, by looking in the config.log, be a hero! May 30 08:30:41 zecke : okie May 30 08:30:42 <_guillermo> zecke: how difficult is creating a new machine in oe? I mean having kernel config, patches, etc like the ones they exist for the dell May 30 08:31:10 _guillermo: not hard, soon(tm) we might even have documentation+video for it May 30 08:31:29 _guillermo: it is worth trying it, set yourself a limit ~1 day and then try May 30 08:31:39 do we have nice and renice in oe yet ? May 30 08:32:39 rob_w|mis: iirc busybox has them May 30 08:32:45 and we should have psmisc as well May 30 08:33:05 morning all May 30 08:33:10 bsdutils, that is May 30 08:33:12 hey ade|desk May 30 08:33:25 koen, ah cool got it May 30 08:33:41 <_guillermo> zecke: in 2 weeks a finish my exams and I think it's a nice time wasting task :) May 30 08:34:07 _guillermo: in ~2 weeks I have my first Vordiplom exam :} May 30 08:34:57 aint it just the case that when you really really need network access your ISP goes tits up May 30 08:35:46 * koen stops arguing with idiots right now May 30 08:35:53 <_guillermo> zecke: good luck :) May 30 08:36:06 _guillermo: I'm scared to death May 30 08:36:19 ade|desk: the scheduled maintenance took a bit longer this morning May 30 08:36:21 <_guillermo> zecke: come on! May 30 08:36:37 <_guillermo> zecke: a or dev scared?? :) May 30 08:36:37 ade|desk: so the uni was cutoff from the world from 0530 - 0830 May 30 08:36:52 <_guillermo> zecke: an oe dev scared I meant May 30 08:37:08 _guillermo: well, I hate any form of exam May 30 08:37:16 but I should think positive May 30 08:37:29 I'm looking forward, I'm happy to show what I know May 30 08:37:31 :) May 30 08:37:37 koen: oh ok, but my problem was yesterday though to this morning ... i could only get the BT 'your connection is not working html' May 30 08:38:00 <_guillermo> zecke: where do you study? May 30 08:38:08 _guillermo: FU Berlin May 30 08:38:54 <_guillermo> zecke: Berlin! nice! May 30 08:39:09 <_guillermo> I want to visit it this summer May 30 08:39:25 * jtd has only been to Stuttgart May 30 08:39:46 * jtd also lied about going to bed, apparently May 30 08:39:48 <_guillermo> I have lived in germany for more than one year and never benn there. A shame May 30 08:40:02 where in .de, Guillermo? May 30 08:40:25 koen: could we make drupal do line wraps? May 30 08:40:38 koen: I hate webstuff that does not line wrap on free floating text... May 30 08:40:43 zecke: yes, you'd have to ask hrw for the css magic May 30 08:40:44 <_guillermo> duisburg :( May 30 08:41:17 * jtd doesn't know where that is :) May 30 08:41:35 <_guillermo> jtd: north of düsseldorf May 30 08:42:14 west of essen? :} May 30 08:42:30 <_guillermo> 5 min from essen May 30 08:42:34 ah, ok May 30 08:42:43 <_guillermo> rührgebiet power!! May 30 08:43:10 _guillermo: where you born in the pott? May 30 08:43:38 <_guillermo> haha May 30 08:43:41 probably not with a name like "Guillermo" :) May 30 08:43:52 <_guillermo> jtd: 100 % right May 30 08:43:53 jtd: who knows May 30 08:44:06 heh May 30 08:44:23 _guillermo: where you forced to go to duisburg? May 30 08:44:33 _guillermo: who would ever want to study at the Ruhr-Uni? May 30 08:44:37 :} May 30 08:45:27 <_guillermo> zecke: it's a long story... May 30 08:45:58 * jtd is studying in the Middle of Nowhere, U.S.A. May 30 08:47:42 <_guillermo> jtd: sounds great May 30 08:49:01 sure, if you like corn and cows ;) May 30 08:49:04 zecke : i can find too many error in configure log(tmp/work/gcc-cross-4.0.0-r1/gcc-4.0.0/build.i686-linux.arm-linux/gcc/config.log). May 30 08:49:22 nemu_1: find the one it made it stop May 30 08:49:40 nemu_1: GCC_NO_EXE sounds like a good keyword May 30 08:51:59 zecke : i use the gcc 3.3.5 for host machine. is this no problem ? May 30 08:52:24 nemu_1: dunno May 30 08:52:34 nemu_1: find the error and you will know May 30 08:52:53 i get the same thing trying to compile gcc-cross-4 May 30 08:53:17 i got the follwing error msgs ! May 30 08:53:20 johnX: config.log and feel free to pastebin it May 30 08:53:23 ~pastebin May 30 08:53:30 353 conftest.c:9:28: ac_nonexistent.h: No such file or directory May 30 08:53:30 864 conftest.c:47:20: direct.h: No such file or directory May 30 08:53:30 925 conftest.c:49:19: ldfcn.h: No such file or directory May 30 08:53:30 988 conftest.c:51:20: thread.h: No such file or directory May 30 08:53:34 somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ May 30 08:53:46 it's the same as nemu's May 30 08:53:52 ibot : ic May 30 08:53:54 ic is probably a French Guy. He teaches me lots of silly things. It's rumoured that he's lord and master of the universe, so you'd better not mess with him, or the whole planet may just blink out of existance. :) or integrated circuit May 30 08:53:56 zecke: how's the css now? May 30 08:53:57 johnX: I have not seen a config.log May 30 08:54:01 ah May 30 08:54:23 zecke : do u need full config.log ? May 30 08:54:35 nemu_1: well, your pastes are void :) May 30 08:54:41 nemu_1: gcc is using autoconf May 30 08:54:49 zecke : yeah May 30 08:54:54 nemu_1: and it is testing for presence and usability of header files May 30 08:55:04 nemu_1: not finding headers is not a bug/error May 30 08:55:14 i know May 30 08:55:50 nemu_1: BTW: did you google yet? May 30 08:56:18 zecke : yeah May 30 08:57:29 zecke : how do u think these msg ? May 30 08:57:32 nemu_1: you have found http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-bugs/2004-09/msg03514.html as well? May 30 08:57:37 1267 /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmld May 30 08:57:37 1268 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status May 30 08:58:14 nemu_1: could you summarize the page for me May 30 08:58:19 zecke: don't start line with a space May 30 08:58:33 zecke: lines with leading spaces are handled as 'code' May 30 08:59:05 zecke : what page ? above url ? May 30 09:00:30 morning all May 30 09:00:31 zecke : i know what u mean. May 30 09:01:42 hey richard2 May 30 09:16:44 joshua_: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/PackagedStaging May 30 09:31:28 koen: thanks! May 30 09:31:43 joshua_: thank zecke :) May 30 09:32:57 zecke, thanks! (I think) May 30 09:33:01 haeh? May 30 09:36:18 is that wiki new? May 30 09:36:46 joshua_: hmm May 30 09:36:50 *lie* no May 30 09:37:03 hehe :) May 30 09:40:51 zecke: how can I change vars like STAGING_DIR for do_stage? May 30 09:41:05 livecd testing May 30 09:41:06 STAGING_DIR_do_stage = moo May 30 09:41:07 I tried to do in in do_stage_prepend, but OE resets them in do_stage May 30 09:41:32 be back in a second May 30 09:41:46 1 May 30 09:41:50 lol May 30 09:41:52 back yet ;) ? May 30 09:42:07 * koen needs food May 30 09:44:08 sure May 30 09:47:45 morning May 30 09:47:51 hey lardman|work May 30 09:47:57 hi koen May 30 09:48:23 hey lardman|work May 30 09:51:48 koen: http://www.openembedded.org/packagedstaging May 30 09:52:31 zecke: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/PackagedStaging :) May 30 09:53:11 koen: comments? would you define other milestones= May 30 09:53:19 koen: do you want to fixate dates to them? May 30 09:53:40 i want to complete M1 this week May 30 09:53:48 i.e. before I leave May 30 09:54:36 koen: more important is the documentation, specially the point how you will install libglib-2.0-dev when you have DEPENDS glib-2.0 May 30 09:54:55 indeed May 30 09:55:38 it's missing the 'use -dev packages' step May 30 09:55:43 koen: I like the package handler idea, you could remember which packages were created by glib-2.0 May 30 09:55:53 M1 will just package up the staging dir as a package May 30 09:55:59 koen: well and how to fix .pc and .a files May 30 09:56:22 btw, LOL @ l-a-k May 30 09:56:37 the 'PXA270' thread May 30 10:01:51 I always love l-a-k drama. looking good already -- a userland question May 30 10:02:18 oh, he didn't get flamed? May 30 10:02:23 "use OE" "use ptxdist" May 30 10:02:34 I wonder when the scratchbox people will jump in :) May 30 10:02:35 * zecke waits for another QtE BGR post... May 30 10:02:56 tiny X server... "Use X.org!" May 30 10:03:24 joshua_: actually X.org includes kdrive now :) May 30 10:03:47 aha May 30 10:04:01 *shudder* May 30 10:04:13 I just remember poking at imake files May 30 10:04:22 koen: hehe May 30 10:04:26 I thought they autotooled the whole thing now May 30 10:04:40 >7.0 is autotooled May 30 10:04:44 koen: ptxdist includes libsdl-1.2.9 May 30 10:04:49 but X11R6.3 wasn't May 30 10:05:45 RP: have you heard of reclaimd (for the vm) May 30 10:05:59 zecke: we have 1.2.9 as well May 30 10:06:08 zecke: not really May 30 10:06:41 RP: I use swap over network block device (nbd) and it needs the nbd-client May 30 10:06:50 RP: and I suspect it swaps the nbd-client out :} May 30 10:07:12 heh May 30 10:07:16 zecke: I can see that breaking things :} May 30 10:07:19 the old swap-over-md problem May 30 10:08:34 RP: I wonder what to do about it... reclaimd was a kernel thread that made the kernel always have some pages... May 30 10:08:43 RP: do you know if I can pin some pages to memory? May 30 10:09:00 zecke: I'm not sure if userspace can do that May 30 10:09:36 You do want to pin them in memory though May 30 10:10:13 svn checkouts in OE, do they get downloaded to tar file every time or is there a way to do like cvs/package structure ? May 30 10:10:28 ade|desk: tar ATM May 30 10:11:58 hmm for large projects this is a serious problem May 30 10:12:26 ade|desk: performance one? May 30 10:12:58 bandwidth surely May 30 10:13:13 use releases for big projects May 30 10:13:16 :) May 30 10:14:56 hmm enough idling May 30 10:14:58 e.g. gaim is a bugger each time May 30 10:15:19 koen: for GSoC you may take the shortcuts, but describe you reasonings May 30 10:17:07 ade|desk: It can no doubt be made more efficient. The git fetcher has some not dissimilar issues which I partially resolved May 30 10:20:21 wood and trees in spring to mind atm w.r.t cvs.py and svn.py May 30 10:20:41 * ade|desk goes in search of tea May 30 10:22:17 hey lrg May 30 10:23:20 hey koen May 30 10:23:52 cya May 30 10:26:28 30 12:39 < sashz_horror> http://mail.pdaxrom.org/node/89 - u-boot text screenshot May 30 10:28:24 my quick workaround for svn : un tar the project, svn up, re tar :kludge but hey May 30 10:30:40 <_law_> OT: any screen user here? May 30 10:31:06 _law_: Yep? May 30 10:31:59 <_law_> NAbyss, is there anyway to scrool the terminal up? May 30 10:32:49 _law_: I'm sure I've done it before, I just can't remember the command.. May 30 10:36:21 _law_: ctrl-a, esc, then scroll up/down.. enter will escape from that mode May 30 10:37:24 <_law_> NAbyss, thanks May 30 10:37:37 _law_: np May 30 10:59:19 Packaged contents of /media/hda4/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/pstaging into /media/hda4/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/pstage//ncurses_5.4_armv5te.ipk May 30 11:04:55 <_guillermo> I get a linking error with bl in oz354x: cannot find -lglib-2.0 May 30 11:06:44 _guillermo: bl 0.1? May 30 11:06:50 <_guillermo> yes May 30 11:07:08 _guillermo: looks like missing dependency May 30 11:08:05 <_guillermo> I'm gonna compile glib-2.0 May 30 11:26:11 <_guillermo> ok it worked. Comfirmed, bl-0.1 depends on glib-2.0 May 30 11:27:49 glib-2.0 for controling a backlight? May 30 11:27:52 gosh... May 30 11:28:03 hopefully it is using goject as well May 30 11:31:08 <_guillermo> today is not my day. I fixed that and now coreutils-native says: May 30 11:31:11 <_guillermo> hecking for struct utmp.ut_exit.ut_exit... FATAL: oe_runconf failed May 30 11:32:30 not my day as welll May 30 11:49:48 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rfd68e6a9... 10/classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: First ugly, hackish, hard-coded to ipkg, code duplicating, but working version. share and enjoy :) May 30 11:50:45 * koen crosses fingers and starts a build from scratch May 30 11:59:18 koen: Are you building from .dev? May 30 12:01:06 lardman|work: no May 30 12:01:10 from .packaged-staging May 30 12:01:17 cute: http://www.spinics.net/lists/mips/msg22431.html May 30 12:02:51 "* MontaVista claim that they support Db1200 with their 4.x pro version but having tried 2 crosscompilation tool chain with the same results, we don't want to waste money on something that would give us the same result." is nice May 30 12:03:47 koen: where^Whow do you find such posts? May 30 12:05:31 hmmm May 30 12:05:31 http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/OpenEmbedded_GP2X_development_environment May 30 12:05:35 didn't know about that May 30 12:06:39 http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/Building%20Cross%20Toolchains%20with%20gcc is nice May 30 12:17:52 hrm May 30 12:17:59 chicken and egg problem May 30 12:19:21 koen: how to package staging without ipkg? May 30 12:19:27 yes May 30 12:22:20 luckilly the egg came first :-D May 30 12:23:08 hi mickeyl May 30 12:23:11 hi guylhem May 30 12:24:33 hello hrw May 30 12:24:40 hi May 30 12:26:01 found why I had the alsa messages - it doesn't compile cleanly with eabi gcc May 30 12:28:19 guylhem_: someone could update alsa to 1.0.11... May 30 12:29:00 I will see if I can do that - for now I would like to get a nice video playback speed. I also wonder why dgen doesn't work May 30 12:31:35 hi guys May 30 12:31:54 hi Arjan May 30 12:31:57 should I use bitbake 1.4 or 1.5 for the current .oz354fam083 and .dev branches? May 30 12:32:10 1.4.x May 30 12:32:13 I have the latest svn version, but it gives lots of parse errors on both branches May 30 12:32:16 ok, thanks May 30 12:32:31 how do I check out the latest 1.4.x? May 30 12:32:51 1.4.2 was released May 30 12:33:15 ~gettingstarted May 30 12:33:17 methinks gettingstarted is http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted May 30 12:33:24 yeah, but 1.4.0 is the last one in gentoo portage :( May 30 12:33:29 that has instructions how to chekcout 1.4 via svn May 30 12:33:35 koen: thanks! May 30 12:35:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r5aa2e93f... 10/packages/bl/bl_0.1.bb: bl: added missing depends on glib-2.0 May 30 12:36:56 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r7ee49153... 10/packages/mplayer/ (9 files in 2 dirs): May 30 12:36:56 mplayer_1.0pre7+cvs20060519.bb : add a cvs snapshot of mplayer in prep for May 30 12:36:56 a svn version when they get the repos open to public again. May 30 12:36:56 Is patched with the w100 driver from mplayer-atty so platforms with w100 can May 30 12:36:56 try --enable-w100. May 30 12:38:47 xora - do you have a binary for mplayer ? I'd like to test it with overclocking May 30 12:40:14 guylhem_: http://hyboria.mine.nu/feed/ May 30 12:40:53 403 May 30 12:41:11 is it compiled with --enable-w100 ? May 30 12:41:37 guylhem_: yes May 30 12:41:51 guylhem_: http://hyboria.mine.nu/feed//mplayer_1.0pre7+cvs20060519-r0_c7x0.ipk May 30 12:41:52 ah yes, bitbake 1.4.3 works with .dev May 30 12:42:05 but it doesn't with .oz354fam083 :) May 30 12:42:15 I should probably just download the released version May 30 12:42:15 ArjanS: bitbake 1.4 just hides the warnings 1.5 gives you :) May 30 12:42:37 koen: right... so those errors/warnings are not a problem? May 30 12:43:51 the method_already seen? May 30 12:44:02 those are 'harmless' May 30 12:44:47 hrw|work: you forgot to say "closes #1054" in the commit message ;) May 30 12:44:48 * mickeyl still thinks it should be put out as WARNING, not as ERROR May 30 12:44:56 no, all kinds of errors like 'cant read from file' May 30 12:45:17 koen: this push was made before bugreport comes to me May 30 12:45:25 s/push/commit May 30 12:45:32 hrw|work: in that case, don't be so fast! May 30 12:46:21 koen: ok - with next commit I will wait until someone report thing which I want to commit ;) May 30 12:46:28 :) May 30 12:46:53 koen: but do not complain about my laziness then :D May 30 12:48:46 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r3326cffb... 10/packages/ezx/ (ezx-boot-usb-native_svn.bb ezx-gpiotool_svn.bb): ezx: catch up with upstream source tree movements... May 30 12:48:51 http://pastebin.com/746657 May 30 12:49:52 jo joescjmo May 30 12:50:30 ArjanS the cat can't read from file - do you mean at boot? May 30 12:50:57 guylhem_: no, they are errors during the parsing of .bb's May 30 13:00:57 guylhem_: did you manage to get that? May 30 13:14:40 hrw|work: cherokee w/o SSL is not a high priority ATM -- its an optimzation, so may do it later if needed. May 30 13:21:56 cbrake: I have one ready to push May 30 13:22:29 hrw|work: great, I'll give a try then. May 30 13:29:07 XorA : ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for mplayer: May 30 13:29:07 libasound2 (>= 1.0.11) libfontconfig1 (>= 2.3.91) libsdl-1.2-0 (>= 1.2.9) May 30 13:29:38 I'm using 3541 image, I'll try to uppgrade parts without breaking the whole May 30 13:33:06 ~lart autotools May 30 13:33:07 * ibot whips autotools with a wet and grimy noodle just because May 30 13:33:21 koen whats wrong? May 30 13:33:57 the autotools in staging aren't relocatable May 30 13:34:13 so all paths point to the temporary staging address May 30 13:46:14 * cbrake discovers bitbake -i supports tab'd name completion :-) May 30 13:49:24 cbrake: and it has peek/poke (which are broken in 1.4 iirc) May 30 13:49:47 ~lart orinoco drivers for being broken and annoying May 30 13:49:48 * ibot hauls orinoco drivers up by the scruff of the neck and spanks him until he waddles for being broken and annoying May 30 13:50:03 ~lart orinoco drivers for lack of WPA May 30 13:50:04 * ibot eats orinoco drivers and falls over dead for lack of WPA May 30 13:50:38 hrw hm May 30 13:50:42 ~lart pcmcia renovation May 30 13:50:42 * ibot accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets pcmcia renovation feel it May 30 13:50:50 oh May 30 13:52:06 ~lart sharp, lineo and trolltech May 30 13:52:07 * ibot smacks sharp, lineo and trolltech up side the head with a clue-by-4 May 30 13:52:15 to complete larting ;P May 30 13:52:59 righto May 30 13:53:05 <_guillermo> hrw|work: I thought you said splash screen was disabled in akita, but I'm seeing it right now (beautiful btw) May 30 13:54:05 _guillermo: kernel logo is disabled May 30 13:55:03 <_guillermo> aps ok. BTW everytime I log in I see the matchbox icons and then I get kicked out to the login screen again May 30 13:55:49 _guillermo: rm ~/.keylaunchrc May 30 13:56:04 <_guillermo> how can I reach a console to do it? May 30 13:56:05 ~lart gpe people for using keylaunch May 30 13:56:06 * ibot puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at gpe people for using keylaunch May 30 13:56:22 _guillermo: 3-4x ctrl-alt-backspace May 30 13:56:23 ~lart keylaunch May 30 13:56:23 * ibot hits keylaunch with an anvil and laughs with a contralto voice ... Haha Ha HA Ha May 30 13:57:12 <_guillermo> that kills X but after one sec another one is created May 30 13:57:33 that's why hrw said to do it 3-4x May 30 13:57:39 _guillermo: do it quick and few times May 30 13:57:46 _guillermo: gpe-dm will surrender May 30 13:57:51 regarding matchbox, got a question : when you add icons next to the launcher (bottom left) is there a way to make them focus already launched applications ? May 30 13:58:04 (ie if you lauch them once, they no longer work) May 30 13:58:19 micro-sd == tansflash ?? May 30 13:58:26 transflash even May 30 13:58:37 ade|desk: seems like it May 30 13:58:47 hmm ok May 30 13:58:49 ade|desk: who will know.. there are >10 mmc compatible formats... May 30 13:58:52 cheers May 30 13:58:52 guylhem_: matchbox support X-SingeInstace May 30 13:59:10 guylhem_: so if you have the right .desktop it should work May 30 14:00:06 <_guillermo> hrw|work: how do I get X again? May 30 14:00:17 Any have an issue with me disabling SSL in wget? Looks like it would never have built with SSL anyway, so I think should be ok. Currently it's looking in /usr/include and so broken. Making it work with SSL would require autoconf changes... May 30 14:00:42 koen - I'm not sure I understand, since none of the default .desktop work that way.Do you have an example ? May 30 14:00:58 v8jlene: if ssl isn't in DEPENDS you should disable it in EXTRA_OECONF May 30 14:01:21 guylhem_: the matchbox manual should have some examples May 30 14:01:50 _guillermo: /etc/init.d/gpe-dm restart May 30 14:02:04 <_guillermo> thx May 30 14:02:21 koen: Yep, it's not it depends, and I have it fixed locally via EXTRA_OECONF. May 30 14:04:13 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r01f1ccec... 10/packages/sylpheed/sylpheed_2.2.5.bb: sylpheed_2.2.5.bb : new version May 30 14:05:51 regarding expose-light, any idea where to find it? May 30 14:06:11 http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/downloadables/matchbox/matchbox-readme.txt May 30 14:06:21 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r85319fa6... 10/packages/ (gpe-today/gpe-today_cvs.bb libgpevtype/libgpevtype_cvs.bb): gpe-today_cvs.bb, libgpevtype_cvs.bb : fix ${PV} to latest version+cvs May 30 14:06:51 guylhem_: all matchbox stuff is at o-hand.com May 30 14:08:31 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r88838f9b... 10/packages/wget/wget_1.9.1.bb: May 30 14:08:31 wget 1.9.1: Disable checking for the SSL headers so that it doesn't attempt May 30 14:08:31 to search the system include directories. Closes bug #1031. May 30 14:11:28 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r47d0a868... 10/packages/sylpheed/sylpheed_2.2.5.bb: sylpheed_2.2.5.bb : remove accidental test change. May 30 14:11:58 v8jlene: looks like giving you r/w was very good decision May 30 14:12:47 XorA: I suspect the abiword plugings pull in host includes as well May 30 14:13:20 koen: I had thought I checked that May 30 14:13:31 koen: my gentoo system is good at detecting that situation May 30 14:13:53 hrw|work: At least I haven't broken anything too badly (yet) ;-) May 30 14:15:10 koen: pity there was no SoC for a sandbox around non native builds May 30 14:15:24 yeah May 30 14:15:37 OE can use some more SoC like thingies May 30 14:15:54 although should be pretty simple to LD_PRELOAD something that erros on /usr/include and /usr/lib May 30 14:16:16 XorA: we have something like that May 30 14:16:49 XorA: check http://www.openembedded.org/ :) May 30 14:16:53 koen: bounties? May 30 14:17:35 hrw|work: got your SL6K yet? May 30 14:17:43 mickeyl: no May 30 14:17:53 mickeyl: will mail when will get May 30 14:17:53 k May 30 14:18:07 A glibc fix for sh was committed, then reverted, but then re-instated by someone during a merge. Should I try and revert again or edit and manually change it? May 30 14:18:10 mickeyl: btw - did you saw new look of my website? May 30 14:18:19 hrw|work: no. lets see... May 30 14:18:34 v8jlene: try manually May 30 14:18:40 koen: We probably should add /usr/X11R6/include to that list. May 30 14:18:54 hrw|work: nice colors. calm layout. definitly an improvement May 30 14:19:46 koen: how does that work then? May 30 14:19:51 mickeyl: wordpress is nice for such things May 30 14:20:10 hrw|work: ya. i'm still undecided what to use for my next site. I want to revamp vanille completely May 30 14:20:18 hrw|work: i need .spyce support though May 30 14:20:28 XorA: gcc errors out on -I /usr/include May 30 14:20:44 btw donations - do we have many !clamshell devels in OZ land? May 30 14:20:45 koen: Does a change to glibc that effects sh4 only deserve a PR bump? I don't think it needs to? May 30 14:21:00 XorA: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/gcc/gcc-4.0.2/zecke-no-host-includes.patch May 30 14:21:16 v8jlene: if it affects the outcome, yes May 30 14:21:17 koen: ah angstrom oinly? May 30 14:21:21 v8jlene: if it change build or packaging results then yes May 30 14:21:26 XorA: no May 30 14:21:45 Heh, well... it'll make sh4 build (it currently doesn't) and change nothing else... May 30 14:21:47 XorA: if 'fail-fast' in in your overrides that patch will get applied May 30 14:21:56 v8jlene: in that case apr bump isn't needed May 30 14:22:07 koen: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/ RULZ! May 30 14:22:23 koen: Yep, good. That's what I thought. May 30 14:22:54 v8jlene: if only sh4 is affected and it does not build without it then I would keep PR (but thats me) May 30 14:23:00 hrw|work: it's updated every 30 minutes May 30 14:23:22 hrw|work: iirc only zecke, but this is self-managed isolation. he'll get the OZ project 750 when he got his bachelor May 30 14:23:50 koen: must have missed an email somewhere, where can I turn that on? May 30 14:24:06 hrw|work: Yep, that's what was my feeling as well. Thanks. May 30 14:24:50 mickeyl: during next weeks I will probably have 5 Zaurus machines at home - time to share May 30 14:24:55 koen: oh, it is by default, Im surprised I havent seen a fail yet :-D May 30 14:25:11 XorA: start world build May 30 14:25:15 hrw|work: heh. not bad :) what's your lineup atm? May 30 14:25:23 XorA: we fixed most of the obvious breakage before enabling it May 30 14:25:31 morning May 30 14:25:39 hey chouimat May 30 14:26:11 hrw|work: native toolchain + distcc + nfs mount over usb May 30 14:26:21 koen: cool, I got a lot when fixing amd64 problems, but that'll make them faster to find May 30 14:26:40 koen: usb+wifi+bt ;) May 30 14:26:53 shitty hardware specs, moronic guys, way too much heat and mom visiting are starting to drive me nuts May 30 14:27:19 heh May 30 14:27:23 who are you talking about? May 30 14:27:27 XorA: hrm, abiword plugins compiles cleanly May 30 14:27:35 mickeyl: probably will keep 5500, 3000, 6000 and send 760, 5600 somewhere May 30 14:27:40 mickeyl: the company I'm doing a contract for ... May 30 14:27:46 chouimat: *nod* May 30 14:27:51 koen: I pretty sure I checked out that possibility why they dont work May 30 14:29:14 mickeyl: and they forecast about 36C today ... it will be hot in my office ... May 30 14:29:25 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r68afb0c0... 10/packages/glibc/glibc_2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb: May 30 14:29:25 glibc 2.3.5+cvs20050627: Revert sh fix from bug #954 again to get sh4 to May 30 14:29:25 build again. No effect on sh3 (or other arch) but gets sh4 to build. May 30 14:29:25 Closes bug #954. May 30 14:29:27 hrw|work: right. i want to keep 5500,3100,6000,750. one 750 will go to zecke and then I will think about someone who deserves getting the 3000 i have. May 30 14:29:33 chouimat: bummer. no climate? May 30 14:29:49 mickeyl: o.. you got borzoi May 30 14:29:57 mickeyl: just a 3 fans ... May 30 14:30:28 hrw|work: yeah, someone from hong kong donated one to me last week. i couldn't believe it until it was here :) May 30 14:30:40 mickeyl: nice May 30 14:31:17 all in all i have 9 PDAs laying around here May 30 14:31:22 that's definitly TOO MANY May 30 14:31:50 I have 4 at home - two are palmos olders May 30 14:32:31 387 mails in bugs/oe - have to clean that folder one day.. May 30 14:33:57 one of these days we have to think about adding more products/platforms/versions to the bugtracker to help us shuffling around wrongly categorized entries May 30 14:34:03 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r79ac0a55... 10/packages/ckermit/ckermit_211.bb: May 30 14:34:03 ckermit 211: Fix for uclibc by disabling arrow key checking, which in turn May 30 14:34:03 prevents it from trying to peek inside the stdio implementation which is May 30 14:34:03 what was breaking it. May 30 14:36:13 koen: did you ever try de-pinking rxvt-unicode? May 30 14:36:18 XorA: nope May 30 14:36:25 de-pinking? May 30 14:36:39 CosmicPenguin: it has an odd palette May 30 14:36:47 ahh - cute May 30 14:36:48 CosmicPenguin: namely pink May 30 14:36:50 pink i s the new black May 30 14:38:49 I could stand a pink background May 30 14:39:00 put it only has one colour in its palette May 30 14:39:01 hmm ok now building c,c++,fortran,java,objc : from May 30 14:39:01 BB>> peek gcc-cross LANGUAGES May 30 14:39:01 c,c++ May 30 14:39:18 wtf May 30 14:39:29 my scrollbar is pink as well May 30 14:39:34 peek is broken in the new bitbake iirc May 30 14:40:07 isn't it poke what's broken? ;) May 30 14:40:15 is peek broken or is bb taking the piss May 30 14:41:31 ls May 30 14:41:41 oops wrong window May 30 15:15:08 cu May 30 15:24:51 koen: what is the plan for the OE wiki -- are we abandoning the one on oe.handhelds.org? May 30 15:31:07 koen: the /repo listing does not have the .inc files, is this intended ? May 30 15:31:31 ade|desk: I think apache is hiding them May 30 15:31:40 ah .. doh May 30 15:32:20 [Tue May 30 17:46:18 2006] [error] [client 194.200.143.249] client denied by server configuration: May 30 15:32:24 ~lart apache May 30 15:32:25 * ibot teaches apache the basics, including how to RTM May 30 15:46:18 time to slay some dragons May 30 15:46:45 * koen casts +20 pizza May 30 15:47:02 * koen <- food May 30 15:47:13 koen: deep fried pizza for dinner for me May 30 15:49:11 deep fried pizza? May 30 15:49:46 would that be a variation on a pizzapop/pocket or calezone ? May 30 15:50:54 the scots are mad i tell ya May 30 15:52:26 The very idea is enough to bring about a heart attack May 30 15:53:24 ggilbert_: do you think you have some time this summer to install the OE look for bugzilla again? May 30 15:53:32 yeah May 30 15:53:41 cool May 30 15:53:49 it really isn't terribly tough to do May 30 15:53:54 I've got the old templates backed up May 30 15:57:24 I might even be able to sneak some time in later on May 30 15:57:28 if work isn't too busy May 30 16:14:53 a+ May 30 16:20:17 koen: better? :p May 30 16:20:36 if someone with some html talent has some other changes they'd like to make, point them to me May 30 16:20:45 ggilbert_: much better May 30 16:20:48 ggilbert_: you rock! May 30 16:20:54 :) May 30 16:22:48 * Philippe is back (gone 18:32:18) May 30 16:24:24 one of you guys knows where to put startup scripts in normal debian? like rc.local or something similiar? May 30 16:25:31 /etc/rcX.d May 30 16:25:49 /etc/init.d/ May 30 16:25:53 and than symlinks May 30 16:26:00 check /etc/init.d/README May 30 16:26:16 hm May 30 16:26:25 i feared it would be this "stupid" method May 30 16:26:53 hm why stupid? May 30 16:26:59 its sysv May 30 16:27:30 it's also not all that much more work. You just need to pick a name consistant with when you want the script to run May 30 16:27:30 yeah but it gets a bit untidy over time May 30 16:27:50 yeah i just did it..just thought there could be some better way May 30 16:28:40 you can change to minit if you want May 30 16:28:49 but not all packages suppirt it May 30 16:28:54 out of the box May 30 16:29:12 hm May 30 16:29:26 I meant runit May 30 16:29:27 sorrx May 30 16:29:31 it's also not teribly difficult to emulate rc.local May 30 16:30:24 yeah.. May 30 16:30:39 just at an S99local to every runlevel and symlink the same script to /etc/rc.local May 30 16:30:50 but i would find it better if it was already there. but anyhow thank you anyways it?s also the wrong place to complain about debian here :-) May 30 16:52:25 cu folks May 30 16:53:21 bye chaps May 30 17:06:09 Greetings ! May 30 17:07:19 hey Ifaistos May 30 17:07:35 koen : Latest asterisk (1.2.7.1) does compile (and run) with OE and uclibc :) May 30 17:07:49 Ifaistos: cool May 30 17:07:54 Ifaistos: even with chan_bluetooth? May 30 17:08:23 koen : chan_bt compiled havent tested though yet. just some sip calls May 30 17:10:24 koen : only g729 missing :/ My mojo is not that strong May 30 17:11:54 grrr May 30 17:12:03 ~lart 'unscheduled maintenance' May 30 17:12:04 * ibot drops a truckload of VAXen on 'unscheduled maintenance' May 30 17:12:38 koen : which of the mp3 players in OE works ? May 30 17:13:12 if you have an FPU mpg123, if not madplay May 30 18:36:23 ~botmail for ade|desk : you should be able to view .inc files as well now May 30 18:45:52 'evening May 30 18:48:34 news about the ipkg-cl segfault bug: fixed in the 0.99.163 release of ipkg :) May 30 19:18:02 hey May 30 19:19:20 hey zecke May 30 19:19:36 zecke: I'm going to type up a progress report and some question tomorrow May 30 19:19:57 okay May 30 19:20:28 the short story "OE is broken" May 30 19:21:17 long, we stop on our toes? May 30 19:21:26 heh May 30 19:21:43 koen: or is gtk+ only broken? May 30 19:22:06 haven't tested it yet May 30 19:22:21 auto*-native doesn't like to be relocated May 30 19:22:24 *long story* May 30 19:22:34 koen: ah this story :) May 30 19:23:49 so convert all those auto tools packages to cmake May 30 19:24:04 that's another option May 30 19:24:15 lpotter_: not qmake? May 30 19:24:26 ya, i was gonna say that first May 30 19:24:34 =) May 30 19:24:38 lpotter_: I kind of like cmake (horrible grammar) May 30 19:24:47 lpotter_: but it can be used for cross compilation May 30 19:25:00 Has anybody tried to uses ccache+distcc to make parallel builds ? May 30 19:25:14 Ifaistos: that is yesterday :) May 30 19:25:21 Ifaistos: ccache will be used if installed May 30 19:25:26 Ifaistos: zecke has a icecream.bbclass somewhere May 30 19:25:29 Ifaistos: INHERIT += "icecream" May 30 19:26:13 haven't used it for a while though May 30 19:26:44 what about the remote machine that does also the (cross)compiling ? May 30 19:27:01 Ifaistos: icecream distributes the toolchains May 30 19:28:40 zecke : How ? Don't i need to install anything on the remote machine ? (i am a bit slow today...) May 30 19:29:03 ifaistos icecream client you need May 30 19:29:16 Ifaistos: one computer will run the scheduler May 30 19:29:22 Ifaistos: and the clients connect to the scheduler May 30 19:30:22 Ifaistos: http://en.opensuse.org/Icecream May 30 19:30:25 eek suse :} May 30 19:31:40 Ifaistos: and OE should automatically tar your toolchain up May 30 19:32:21 koen: and yes relocation of a lot of utilities is quite hard May 30 19:32:31 koen: starting with the compiler, to autotools, quilt... May 30 19:33:16 Ifaistos: and you have a icemon you get addicted to :) May 30 19:33:18 hmm, you do you handle source tar files that unpack into the current directory instead of a properly named subdirectory like good tar.gz files do? May 30 19:33:46 gah, s/you/how ... May 30 19:33:59 cbrake: a) repacking May 30 19:34:12 cbrake: b) ignoring it and setting S to WORKDIR May 30 19:34:15 ${S} = ${WORKDIR} May 30 19:34:21 cbrake: c) changing do_unpack May 30 19:35:22 zecke : Thanks ! I'll give it a try. Hopefully it will speed up things a bit. I have 6 3Ghz machines that *want* to do something ;) May 30 19:35:27 zecke: that helps -- thanks! May 30 19:36:31 zecke: the fix for relocation is easy, but a bit unelegant May 30 19:36:45 koen: sed? May 30 19:36:47 my commit message sums up the current implementation quite well May 30 19:37:03 zecke: mv staging old ; foo ; mv old staging ; install May 30 19:37:31 and/or sed May 30 19:38:50 zecke : How does the toolchain get generated by OE for the client ? May 30 19:39:09 Ifaistos: INHERIT += icecream May 30 19:39:23 Ifaistos: this class will try to set ICECC_VERSION using the tmp/cross directory May 30 19:39:43 later all May 30 19:39:48 it could have some limitations to only work with gcc3.3 May 30 19:39:51 bye koen May 30 19:41:17 zecke : Are you using it with OE ? May 30 19:41:40 Ifaistos: I have used it, but then my internship ended May 30 19:41:47 and I only had one machine :) May 30 19:42:39 zecke : I had a cluster of 16 dual PIII@Ghz till a few months ago May 30 19:42:53 oh... May 30 19:43:20 zecke : Kernel compilation with ccache+distcc was *fast* May 30 19:44:09 zecke : Also the local Uitility company had my name in the list of "best customers" :) May 30 19:44:24 hehe May 30 19:45:15 zecke : Had to re-wire my house and add an airconditioning unit in the room. May 30 19:45:29 zecke : ...But had some pretty good SETI stats :) May 30 19:45:46 http://wiki.laptop.org/index.php/Developers_Program May 30 19:46:18 thanks May 30 19:47:56 zecke : http://www.stelioscellar.com/Linux/Helios/index.htm May 30 19:48:24 hello all May 30 19:48:57 lol May 30 19:48:59 nice rack May 30 19:49:33 CosmicPenguin: hmm, I would like to apply May 30 19:51:22 zecke: you should May 30 19:51:44 zecke: like I was saying a few days ago, even though the core is fedora based, it still would be nice to have an OE target shadowing the effort May 30 19:52:16 CosmicPenguin: Integrating it into OpenEmbedded to automate tests (Xrestop) of the Sugar environment :} May 30 19:52:45 if you say so - I know next to nothing about sugar May 30 19:53:22 well. I would plan to use Xres(t)op, dogtail to track memory usage of the environment :} May 30 19:53:44 I will try anyway May 30 19:54:38 The dual kernel boot thing will be interesting to code in OE too May 30 19:54:53 maybe we can fix things up to make some real initrds May 30 19:55:30 CosmicPenguin: do you help/assist laptop.org in anyway? May 30 19:55:46 Not officially May 30 19:55:57 okay :) May 30 19:56:01 good enough for me May 30 19:56:33 I work for AMD, and I'm the kernel maintainer for the Geode products, so I have the unique ability to comment on Geode specific isssues May 30 19:57:15 But my interest in OLPC really begins and ends with the processor - a successful launch will be very good for my company May 30 19:59:28 hehe May 30 20:01:24 There are a few of us watching with OLPC with interest... May 30 20:01:49 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf5abeddc... 10/packages/base-files/base-files/h3900/fstab: May 30 20:01:49 Fix to bring back /home mounting in familiar to resolve bug 1455 in the May 30 20:01:49 handhelds.org bugzilla bug tracker. May 30 20:01:54 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * re21130e7... 10/packages/base-files/base-files/h6300/fstab: May 30 20:01:54 Add an fstab for machine h6300. This is meant to deal with bug 1595 in the May 30 20:01:54 handhelds.org bugzilla for the familiar 0.8.4 release. May 30 20:02:02 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9a63d72b... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): May 30 20:02:02 This commit should provide a fix for familiar bug 1606: May 30 20:02:02 http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1606 May 30 20:02:02 It just adds the necessary config items to provide parallel May 30 20:02:02 port drivers for pcmcia cards that have them. May 30 20:02:05 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * racce8ebd... 10/packages/glibc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): May 30 20:02:06 This commit addresses bug 650 in the familiar bugzilla database: May 30 20:02:08 RP: I start to hate physics :( (at least the assignments) May 30 20:02:08 http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=650 May 30 20:02:10 It changes the size of the glibc mmap_threshold to 32kiB to make May 30 20:02:12 mmap behave reasonably on embedded devices. May 30 20:02:16 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r7b138416... 10/packages/glibc/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Integrated pb's patch instead of mine to deal with mmap_threshold. May 30 20:02:19 wow on fire May 30 20:02:21 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rfbdfd9f3... 10/packages/linux/linux-jlime-sh3_2.6.11.bb: jplime switched to using a big 'R' in their URI for their kernels. May 30 20:02:24 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r4571cb0f... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): May 30 20:02:27 CONFIG_PARPORT_SERIAL requires symbols that we do not want to drag into May 30 20:02:28 the strongarm kernel. So I am removing them from the defconfig for h3600. May 30 20:02:30 This problem was reported on familiar bug 1606: May 30 20:02:35 http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1606 May 30 20:02:36 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra72100d3... 10/packages/mysql/ (4 files in 2 dirs): May 30 20:02:38 The 4.1.12 version of mysql has been pulled from most mysql mirrors. May 30 20:02:40 So this is an import of the 4.1.18 bbs from the .dev branch. May 30 20:02:44 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * ra540d744... 10/packages/kbdd/files/kbdd.init: May 30 20:02:46 This adds a restart case to the init script for kbdd. This addresses May 30 20:02:50 handhelds.org bug 1345: May 30 20:02:52 http://handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1345 May 30 20:02:54 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rf460ef7d... 10/packages/linux/ (3 files in 2 dirs): May 30 20:02:56 This adds the hh41.1 bb which attempts to address some kernel init issues May 30 20:02:58 with the mmc_asic3 driver and the mmc_samsung driver. It also disables May 30 20:03:00 the autoloading of the mmc_asic3 driver since it still has issues with May 30 20:03:02 zecke: Physics isn't for the faint hearted ;-) May 30 20:03:04 autoloading. May 30 20:03:06 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * rca497a99... 10/packages/strace/ (2 files in 2 dirs): May 30 20:03:08 This commit adds a patch which is deemed helpful to the proper May 30 20:03:10 operation in the face of an execve call. It also ups the rev of the May 30 20:03:14 bb packaging. May 30 20:03:16 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r2dcb33a0... 10/packages/linux/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Backing out PARPORT config since it only causes oops on h3600. May 30 20:03:21 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r678ad713... 10/ (43 files in 29 dirs): May 30 20:03:23 This commit brings my tree in line with Rene's tree for the familiar May 30 20:03:26 0.8.4 release. May 30 20:03:27 03erik 07org.oe.oz354fam083 * r9f3ae0fa... 10/packages/ntp/ntp_4.2.0.bb: URI changed for this packages source code tarball. May 30 20:03:49 Wow - I'm surprised that CIA didn't get booted for that one May 30 20:04:23 RP: I'm really cheering for your company to be part of the OLPC effort... :) May 30 20:06:40 CosmicPenguin: Lets just hope the big fish don't push the smaller ones out the way... May 30 20:07:00 Yeah, but jim is a fan of mallum.. :) May 30 20:07:55 CosmicPenguin: Lets hope so. May 30 20:08:59 meh. i'm kinda missing working on embedded devices that actually hit the consumer. maybe i should apply for a job at openedhand ;) May 30 20:09:43 hehe May 30 20:09:50 weather kinda sucks out there though. i'm liking the warmth May 30 20:09:52 hehe May 30 20:10:05 which device hit a customer? May 30 20:10:36 kergoth: I think o-hand is a virtual company, so you could go to a rainy or sunny location May 30 20:10:41 you know what i mean :) i kinda miss working on consumer electronics in general. pdas, set top boxes, etc. May 30 20:11:25 hehe May 30 20:11:35 kergoth hm May 30 20:12:03 kergoth: UK weather isn't that bad. You just have to get used to the idea that you have no idea what it'll be doing in an hours time :) May 30 20:12:13 hehe May 30 20:12:33 my moods are highly tied to weather though. long bouts of rain and i'm not doing so well May 30 20:13:14 The UK might not be the place for you then, even if half the country is technically in the middle of a drought! May 30 20:13:30 RP: did you mean to commit libmatchbox/files/16bppfixes.patch? the .bb refers to it but it doesn't exist in .dev. (And btw, what exactly does it fix?) May 30 20:13:33 hehe May 30 20:13:53 mreimer: I did intend to commit it. It fixed BGR displays May 30 20:13:58 ah May 30 20:14:00 thanks RP May 30 20:14:30 kergoth: hehe, germany is rainy I'm getting depressed as hell May 30 20:14:36 was hoping it had something to do with fixing composite May 30 20:14:43 zecke: :( May 30 20:15:19 had an extremely bad day today, if the morning is ruined the whole day is... May 30 20:15:32 I sat in a lecture and some stupid gals talked too loud... May 30 20:16:08 The amount of daylight has more of an affect on me than the weather... May 30 20:16:38 RP: well, Rain -> Clouds -> Block light May 30 20:17:21 zecke: so rain should cause me a problem yet it doesn't. I don't mind cold or wind either... May 30 20:18:17 i lived in minnesota... like 6 months of gloomy days = boo May 30 20:18:51 * cyrilRomain prefers to be discreet about wheater of south of France (27°C, sun lights, ...) ;) May 30 20:18:53 Being brought up having holidays camping in the lake district may have something to do with my outlook I guess as there you get proper rain. And lighting that makes trees explode etc :) May 30 20:20:21 I used to enjoy being freezing cold on a motorbike in -30C windchill at 6am in the morning on a motorway in the middle of winter with snow on the surrounding fields too :-/ May 30 20:22:18 kergoth, zecke: Just don't move to somewhere like Finland ;-) May 30 20:23:16 RP: I think I could cope with 364/365 daylight less days May 30 20:24:46 re May 30 20:24:57 kergoth: ping May 30 20:25:03 zecke: I'm not sure I'd like it combined with the cold May 30 20:25:07 wb hrw|gone May 30 20:30:09 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r54d7627d... 10/packages/libmatchbox/files/16bppfixes.patch: libmatchbox: Add missing patch May 30 20:35:02 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams May 30 20:35:02 wow koen is now banned from the OE mailinglists May 30 20:35:22 oe@handhelds.org too? May 30 20:35:25 yes May 30 20:35:39 all hh.org ml's as far as I can see :( May 30 20:35:39 I guess I should read them more often May 30 20:36:04 CosmicPenguin: koen wasn't able to shut up on familiar May 30 20:36:19 CosmicPenguin: and george felt forced to act May 30 20:36:28 Thats too bad - this infighting isn't healty May 30 20:36:31 healthy even May 30 20:36:37 right May 30 20:36:53 well it is stopped now (hopefully I have not used any judging words) May 30 20:37:53 zecke: on familiar or familiar-dev? May 30 20:38:59 hrw: the message? on admin-lists, but as this impacts OE i mailed it here May 30 20:39:04 hrw: did I miss the question? May 30 20:39:12 30 22:50 < zecke> CosmicPenguin: koen wasn't able to shut up on familiar May 30 20:39:14 30 22:51 < hrw> zecke: on familiar or familiar-dev? May 30 20:39:55 about May 30 20:40:00 s/on/about May 30 20:40:06 ah May 30 20:40:07 hrw: well, the latest mails where on oeAThh.org May 30 20:40:11 joshua_: thanks May 30 20:41:28 * RP is going to get annoyed with this situation re: France/Koen... May 30 20:41:45 looks like I'm out of sync with mails May 30 20:42:18 ermissions. May 30 20:42:19 Although he's not able to use any of the services that we provide, he still May 30 20:42:19 needs access to (minimally) read the OE list to do his SoC task. May 30 20:42:19 joshua May 30 20:42:23 er, crap May 30 20:42:29 well, that was a mispaste May 30 20:42:36 hey joshua_. You got a SoC project? May 30 20:42:37 but part of an email that I sent to admin@, andthat I would've sent to admin-lists@ May 30 20:42:47 mreimer, nope, my students did not get in the top 5 May 30 20:42:52 ugh May 30 20:42:55 joshua_: bummer May 30 20:43:01 if we had just one more slot, I would be mentoring a h3900 student May 30 20:43:22 joshua_: it's funny that you don't qualify as a student but you do as a mentor May 30 20:43:23 :( May 30 20:43:38 I don't officially qualify as a mentor, but nobody has to know about that since they don't have to send me money May 30 20:43:46 joshua_: know about what? May 30 20:43:47 ;-) May 30 20:44:10 my latest OE mail is http://handhelds.org/hypermail/oe/90/9089.html (not count bugzillas) May 30 20:44:14 joshua_: well we can abuse the OpenZaurus wiki at berlios May 30 20:44:23 I thought you had your own wiki on oe.o... May 30 20:44:53 joshua_: he musn't use it May 30 20:45:05 huh? does that also qualify as handhelds.org? May 30 20:45:14 hrw: essentially Koen has been told not to access hh.o services. May 30 20:45:28 I thought that that wiki was OK since it was oe.o and not hh.o May 30 20:45:30 ggilbert_: found.. saturday mail May 30 20:45:31 So I'd imagine that means he's been unsubscribed from the oe mailing list May 30 20:45:39 hrw: and with bad luck we migh lose access to ewi :} May 30 20:45:44 joshua_: Doesnt hh.o host oe.o? May 30 20:45:49 zecke: fsck May 30 20:45:53 ggilbert_: unsubscribed+banned May 30 20:45:58 hrw: yep May 30 20:46:02 zecke: fyi, wiki.openembedded.org is pointing at berlios. you should be able to setup the vhost May 30 20:46:10 hrw: but only time will tell :) May 30 20:46:14 yes, he has been unsubscribed from oe@ May 30 20:46:15 ggilbert_: currently ltg host oe.org (ltg = linuxtogo.org) May 30 20:46:19 ah May 30 20:46:19 openembedded.org has address 85.214.40.226 May 30 20:46:23 226.40.214.85.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer linuxtogo.org. May 30 20:46:23 such a mess May 30 20:46:25 handhelds.org has address 128.31.0.25 May 30 20:46:36 yep, we moved. stupid political nonsense. May 30 20:46:39 I am pushing for r/o access to oe@ May 30 20:47:00 zecke: add me to the openzaurus project :) May 30 20:47:04 we needs lists.openembedded.org May 30 20:47:12 kergoth: at berlios? moment May 30 20:47:12 joshua_: leave it alone, I can cordinate with koen May 30 20:47:16 yeah May 30 20:47:43 joshua_: and for the next weeks koen will be without internet anyway May 30 20:48:03 hrw, no, we neeeds less drama and more code :) May 30 20:48:07 zecke, vacation? May 30 20:48:11 kergoth: you are added May 30 20:48:24 hrw: thanks May 30 20:48:34 kergoth: hi, I wish things have gone better... May 30 20:48:47 joshua_: vacations, he will leave on the ~6th for two weeks May 30 20:48:51 france_: hey May 30 20:48:55 hi france May 30 20:49:00 howdy france May 30 20:49:17 * kergoth nods at france_ May 30 20:49:18 kergoth: when wiki.openzaurus.org be CNAME for openzaurus.berlios.de? May 30 20:49:20 france_: I just have to believe you had to take these steps May 30 20:49:28 hrw: yesterday May 30 20:50:04 hrw@home:~$ host wiki.openzaurus.org May 30 20:50:04 wiki.openzaurus.org does not exist, try again May 30 20:50:12 ;( have to wait some more.. May 30 20:50:55 hrw: oh sorry May 30 20:51:09 hrw: openembedded.org, kergoth did a mistake :} May 30 20:51:15 just noticed May 30 20:53:53 yeah, fixing May 30 20:54:21 zecke: hi May 30 20:54:49 zecke: thx.. but I wish that I was not required to do it. May 30 20:55:13 these things are always difficult. May 30 20:56:18 hrw, zecke: fixed, should take effect shortly when they update their dns config based on my web submissions May 30 20:56:32 hrw@home:~$ host wiki.openzaurus.org remote2.easydns.com May 30 20:56:32 wiki.openzaurus.org CNAME openzaurus.berlios.de May 30 20:56:33 thx May 30 20:57:12 np May 30 20:57:38 i need to remember to switch oz and oe's domains from easydns to godaddy. easydns is reaming me, and i keep forgetting until its renew time, and cant transfer then :) May 30 20:57:56 hmmm May 30 20:58:08 kergoth needs some kind of device for recording things to do May 30 20:58:12 maybe something that's portable May 30 20:58:20 and can set off some kind of alarm May 30 20:58:23 ggilbert_: like a notepad? May 30 20:58:29 ggilbert_: and take a clock to it? May 30 20:58:32 hehe May 30 20:58:34 time bomb? May 30 20:58:42 i've been using rememberthemilk.com May 30 20:58:43 great site May 30 20:58:48 i wonder if it can sms my cell phone May 30 20:58:55 thatd be optimal May 30 20:59:10 hehe May 30 20:59:41 hmmm May 30 20:59:51 when I was on my todo list stint, I used an app called 'tdl' May 30 21:00:12 i used to use 'vim ~/TODO', then went to mallum's didiwiki, then nothing May 30 21:00:56 actually, somewehre in there used a little ncurses outliner called 'woody' for a while May 30 21:01:31 oh, and that one outliner, figment May 30 21:01:39 i kinda wish gnome-outliner would go somewhere May 30 21:01:48 I've been using tomboy lately May 30 21:01:54 just wish I could sync it May 30 21:01:55 yeah, I used figment on my h3700 when it was operational. May 30 21:02:22 tomboy is nice. not quite what i need though, i need either a hierarchical outliner, or an outliner that supports tags (which rememberthemilk does) May 30 21:02:25 I wish there were good full screen hwr for X... my tc1100 really wants something to do with its pen May 30 21:02:27 joshua_: :) used it on my c750 May 30 21:02:47 yes, good hwr would get me stoked May 30 21:03:27 who is from US and can resend package to europe? May 30 21:03:30 kergoth: figmet? May 30 21:04:32 zecke, was a pretty good GPE outliner May 30 21:04:35 mallum's little outliner, http://www.handhelds.org/~mallum/figment/ May 30 21:04:43 worked well on the desktop too May 30 21:04:57 joshua_: hehe, I have used it :) May 30 21:05:00 joshua_: even on OSX May 30 21:07:01 I did not thought that figment is so old.. May 30 21:07:15 04-Apr-2003 is over 3 years old... May 30 21:10:51 * hrw want normal bugzilla look... May 30 21:14:34 ? May 30 21:15:17 all that's different is the colors and header May 30 21:16:26 ggilbert_: