**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 07 02:59:57 2006 Jun 07 06:44:40 hi Jun 07 06:58:20 <_law_> morning Jun 07 06:58:33 <_law_> has someone an ipkg version .162 .bb file ? Jun 07 06:58:42 <_law_> s/162/163 Jun 07 06:59:56 _law_: cp 159 163 Jun 07 07:00:12 <_law_> hrw, works for you? Jun 07 07:01:10 _law_: did not checked Jun 07 07:01:23 <_law_> hrw, patch doesnt apply Jun 07 07:02:02 maybe already applied upstream? Jun 07 07:06:10 <_law_> if i remove the patch i get the following error Jun 07 07:07:49 hi XorA Jun 07 07:07:55 morning Jun 07 07:08:59 NOTE: package kismet-qte-2.0.0-r0: task do_compile: completed Jun 07 07:09:09 ~lart users using soft from 2003 Jun 07 07:09:09 * ibot executes killall -HUP users using soft from 2003 Jun 07 07:09:39 hrw: responging to that kismet email on users list? Jun 07 07:11:07 yep - wanted to check it Jun 07 07:12:21 hrw: I suspect he forget source= line in /etc/kismet.conf Jun 07 07:12:37 XorA: who knows.. Jun 07 07:13:34 hrw: well thats pretty much the only thing that stops kismet_server starting and thus generates that message Jun 07 07:13:47 * XorA now has a HTC wizard Jun 07 07:15:29 gcc34.patch has 13K Jun 07 07:17:19 Debian moves to gcc 4.1 Jun 07 07:21:34 * hrw want OBSOLETE_UNMAINTAINED flag Jun 07 07:24:54 hrw: for what recipes? Jun 07 07:25:19 kismet-qt for example Jun 07 07:25:35 or other 'users still use that stuff but its dead upstream' Jun 07 07:25:37 kismet on konsole was always superior anyway Jun 07 07:26:24 but users want kismet-qt which is dead Jun 07 07:27:05 hrw: I see, maybe mv kismet-qt -> obsolete/kismet-qt Jun 07 07:27:15 or chance its SECTION=obsolete Jun 07 07:27:49 then they get the chance to use it, but its clearly indicated that OZ no longer supports that Jun 07 07:27:58 MAINTAINER="obsolete stuff which noone will support" Jun 07 07:30:42 hrw: though I dont beleive kismet-qt is actually broken as I used to use it, if its not broke why upgrade Jun 07 07:31:58 XorA: kismet-qt is not in OE Jun 07 07:32:23 the only version available is sharprom one Jun 07 07:33:24 hrw: erp Jun 07 07:33:52 hrw: has it really been that long since I ran it, that will be in OZ 3.2 days then Jun 07 07:34:10 ~fsck oz/opie users for using old stuff Jun 07 07:34:19 e2fsck /dev/oz/opie users for using old stuff : warning! filesystem contains idiots! Jun 07 07:34:26 ~fsck trolltech for keeping qte 2.3 for years Jun 07 07:34:28 e2fsck /dev/trolltech for keeping qte 2.3 for years : warning! filesystem contains morons! Jun 07 07:39:49 * XorA installs minimo to see what OZ/Fam is missing Jun 07 07:44:53 good morning Jun 07 07:47:17 hi chris144 Jun 07 07:48:59 hi hrw Jun 07 08:04:49 <_law_> NOTE: package ipkg-0.99.163: completed Jun 07 08:14:30 morning folks Jun 07 08:18:20 i used to have a bookmark on "how to setup a cross compiling toolchain" on how to get /usr/local/arm/gcc, etc but i've lost it... does anyone has it or know where i can find it ? Jun 07 08:19:48 "bitbake gcc-cross" is such howto :D Jun 07 08:23:25 morning Jun 07 08:24:28 hi CoreDump|home Jun 07 08:28:08 * hrw goes to doctor Jun 07 09:09:32 morning Jun 07 09:14:29 <_law_> hmm how can i checkout where libeventdb0 is set? http://pastebin.com/764747 Jun 07 09:25:26 Hey guys, can anyone tell me what might cause a 'Cannot find package task-bootstrap'? It's for my home-grown distro, which built fine until a recent (big) OE pull.. The task-bootstrap ipk is present. Full log: http://pastebin.com/764765 Jun 07 09:26:04 (this is during final image build btw) Jun 07 09:26:21 <_law_> wrobbie, packages/meta Jun 07 09:27:08 _law_: yeah, and it builds to an ipk ok.. Jun 07 09:27:34 but can't be found at rootfs build time Jun 07 09:29:10 re Jun 07 09:30:35 wrobbie: make sure that your "Packages" file is up to date (recreate with bitbake -b meta/package-index.bb) and that the ARCH of your task-bootstrap.ipk is in the temporary ARCH file for ipkg Jun 07 09:30:41 wb hrw Jun 07 09:34:22 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * ra560fdf5... 10/packages/linux/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-ezx: first shot at backlight class driver for EZX platform Jun 07 09:35:01 morning Jun 07 09:35:06 hi mickeyl Jun 07 09:36:43 where should i post a package dependance problem ? Jun 07 09:37:40 CoreDump|home: Thanks.. task-bootstrap architecture is 'rob'. Ho-hum.. What do you mean with 'temporary ARCH file for ipkg'? Jun 07 09:38:03 theturtle: share us Jun 07 09:38:44 libgpevtype requires libevendb >= 0.29 but 0.21 is build by default Jun 07 09:38:47 wrobbie: during do_rootfs ipkg creates a temporary ARCH.conf containing the arches for your image. If "rob" isn't in there it will not pick up your ipk Jun 07 09:40:21 theturtle: I think that someone from GPE people should fix it - report it into OE bugtracker Jun 07 09:40:30 ok Jun 07 09:40:53 hrw : isn't this .bb and OE related more than gpe-people related ? Jun 07 09:41:13 theturtle: but GPE people wrote those recipes and they maintain them Jun 07 09:41:24 hrw : ok Jun 07 09:41:50 CoreDump|home: openssh does NOT start during reboot.... Jun 07 09:42:14 CoreDump|home: Okiedokie. But is that ARCH.conf removed when the error happened? Can't seem to find it.. I'll have a look at bb classes etc. to see how this works.. Jun 07 09:42:22 hrw: ? ssh works just fine here Jun 07 09:42:34 wrobbie: can't remember where it is, sorry. Jun 07 09:42:44 morning all Jun 07 09:42:50 no prob Jun 07 09:42:53 morning RP Jun 07 09:42:53 hi RP Jun 07 09:43:46 wrobbie: *IPKG_ARCH* in machine config Jun 07 09:43:48 hi RP Jun 07 09:44:02 RP: in the mood for a GPIO question? Jun 07 09:44:20 mickeyl: why not :) Jun 07 09:44:40 RP: fine :) i read to not access the GPDR directly, but to use pxa_gpio_mode() instead Jun 07 09:44:48 RP: now what i don't understand is code doing both: Jun 07 09:44:58 // configure GPIO for PWM0 Jun 07 09:44:58 GPDR0 |= 0x00010000; //PWM0 is GPIO16 Jun 07 09:44:58 set_GPIO_mode(GPIO16_PWM0_MD); Jun 07 09:45:07 why should that be necessary? Jun 07 09:45:14 * ade|desk smacks head against a brick wall , export LD=arm-linux-uclibc-ld is used, so when linking /usr/bin/ld gets used !?! Jun 07 09:45:18 It shouldn't. Its bad code Jun 07 09:45:42 mickeyl: Note the pxa gpio function could also have improved between 2.4 and 2.6. That looks like 2.4 Jun 07 09:45:49 heh. what i expected. yes, it's from 2.4. would substituting it with one pxa_gpio_mode( GPIO16_PWM0_MD ) be sufficient? Jun 07 09:46:07 It should do, yes Jun 07 09:46:59 i see. thanks. Jun 07 09:47:06 pxa_gpio_mode usually des everything you need. The only exception is the zaurus keyboard drivers (as they access multiple gpios at once) and some of the zaurus power management code Jun 07 09:47:20 that was montavista code, btw. :D Jun 07 09:48:44 ok, one more... why would they configure the PWM GPIO as input once they turned backlight power off? is that for power saving? Jun 07 09:49:15 yes. Less power drain that way Jun 07 09:49:23 ah. good to know. Jun 07 09:51:07 <_law_> how can i remove gpe-today from the gpe-image? already removed it from task-gpe.bb file Jun 07 09:51:33 _law_: create own image? Jun 07 09:51:43 _law_: try rebuilding the task ipk and Packages Jun 07 09:51:47 <_law_> hrw, now .dev openzaurus-unstable image Jun 07 09:52:25 _law_: I used hrw-opie-image.bb many times (it does not even use task-bootstrap :) Jun 07 09:53:07 hrw & CoreDump thanks! I added IPKG_EXTRA_ARCHS = "rob", and that did the trick.. Jun 07 09:53:15 wrobbie: ;) Jun 07 09:53:33 hrw: oh you should see my task-hentges-opie.bb Jun 07 09:54:39 collections for 3 rootfs sizes (16M, 20M and =>50M) Jun 07 09:55:27 http://oe.pastebin.com/764814 Jun 07 09:55:58 hrw: excellent :D Jun 07 09:56:18 hehe Jun 07 09:56:38 fsck you qtopia lovers Jun 07 09:57:03 Sad when we have to resort to that :-/ Jun 07 09:57:37 ~lart trolltech for keeping qtopia 1.x/2.x alive for too long Jun 07 09:57:38 * ibot does a little 'renice 20 -u trolltech for keeping qtopia 1.x/2.x alive' for too long Jun 07 10:07:27 http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1985.png Jun 07 10:07:33 hi Liam Jun 07 10:07:59 :-D Jun 07 10:08:04 hey Liam Jun 07 10:09:42 hey XorA Jun 07 10:09:57 XorA: testing your codec now. Jun 07 10:10:49 XorA: btw built angstrom (with mplayer) for mainstone with iwmmxt last night. seems to work so far..... Jun 07 10:11:28 lrg: cool, I added that cvs snapshot of mplayer as its mpeg4 decoding is faster than atty version Jun 07 10:11:38 <_law_> hrw, a dont show this dialog again checkbox would be nice... Jun 07 10:12:09 _law_: no way Jun 07 10:12:22 _law_: I do not have time to implement it Jun 07 10:13:49 XorA: i used the atty version (not sure what the difference is) and X sdl (instead of qt SDL) and enable iwmmx in the build. I still have to try and run it, although it all built ok. Jun 07 10:14:52 lrg: atty was originally ioptimised for arm, then the mplayer devs took the good bits of the aoptims and put them back into cvs, but didnt port the w100 driver, so I just ported the w100 driver to cvs mplayer and put it all together Jun 07 10:16:16 XorA: be mad enough and push w100 upstream ;) Jun 07 10:16:32 hrw: mad? Jun 07 10:16:40 hi hrw Jun 07 10:16:41 XorA: good work :) Jun 07 10:16:44 hi xora Jun 07 10:17:21 XorA: its had to get something added to mplayer code (added by upstream from provided patch) Jun 07 10:19:20 lol Jun 07 10:19:25 dilbert comic Jun 07 10:19:32 hrw: never used to be, ive had 3/4 patches accepted Jun 07 10:19:33 http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/dilbert-20060605.html Jun 07 10:20:05 hrw: dxr3 driver stuff Jun 07 10:24:42 lrg: what did you do to enable iwmmxt instruction set in our toolchain? Jun 07 10:27:17 RP: your LED driver rocks =D Jun 07 10:28:04 mickeyl: afaik, mainstone includes the iwmmt.conf file. I assumed this would set up the correct config to do this. Although now that your asking, I think i've built a non iwmmxt tool set. :-/ Jun 07 10:29:47 hey Marcin, (just reading the back log) Jun 07 10:42:16 <_law_> how can i reconfigure the touchscreen? Jun 07 10:42:38 <_law_> doesnt work with my latest .dev image Jun 07 10:45:19 CoreDump|afk: thanks :) Jun 07 11:04:47 hm makes it some sin to port qemu to a arm9 architecture with 200 mhz? Jun 07 11:11:05 hi ken Jun 07 11:11:15 woglinde, morning Jun 07 11:11:19 ~seen zecke Jun 07 11:11:29 hm Jun 07 11:11:36 zecke was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 13h 58m 26s ago, saying: 'nite'. Jun 07 11:11:45 okay Jun 07 11:11:49 laggi Jun 07 11:11:57 ~seen ken Jun 07 11:12:00 ken is currently on #oe (1m 18s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen ken'. Jun 07 11:12:45 hihi Jun 07 11:49:22 hi mickeyl Jun 07 11:49:32 hey pb_ Jun 07 11:49:51 he pb Jun 07 11:49:54 re mickeyl Jun 07 11:51:07 hi woglinde Jun 07 12:18:29 if your just making changes to the kernel configuration file what is the best way to rebuild it using bitbake? Jun 07 12:22:39 copy .config to where OE expects the defconfig Jun 07 12:22:47 bitbake -c clean -b Jun 07 12:22:51 bitbake -b Jun 07 12:26:15 so that will clean the source and rebuild it with out deleteing it and downloading again, correct? Jun 07 12:27:38 no Jun 07 12:27:43 clean delets Jun 07 12:27:54 download no, because it already is in your DL_DIR Jun 07 12:28:07 ok. Jun 07 12:29:58 if you really need to rebuild "in-place", then you could use the following which I do when I'm doing kernel developing in OE Jun 07 12:30:01 cd Jun 07 12:30:28 PATH=:$PATH ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux make Jun 07 12:32:09 that way you can rebuild without needing top copy stuff back and forth. note that the new stuff doesn't get packaged then, it's just for copying the resulting kernel image or modules to somewhere else, e.g. an nfsroot or so Jun 07 12:35:29 mickeyl: or work on kernel patches Jun 07 12:36:06 but for kernel patches I usually have whole tree copied outside of builddir Jun 07 12:36:32 i do it in-place and do patcher -r && cp .patches/* before doing make again Jun 07 12:36:35 thanks mickeyl and hrw Jun 07 12:37:12 http://www.earlygirl.com/sincerely.shtml Jun 07 12:37:21 I prefer quilt :D Jun 07 12:37:54 why is it better? Jun 07 12:38:56 mickeyl: forking patches, snapshot patches Jun 07 12:39:50 mickeyl: apply some patches, quilt snapshot, apply others, 'quilt diff snapshot' will make a patch of all 'others' Jun 07 12:40:08 hmm Jun 07 12:42:16 *shrug* for my use cases patcher does it. I'll rethink about quilt next time Jun 07 12:42:31 mickeyl: 'quilt fork' iirc create copy of uma.patch as uma-1.patch so you can have 2 versions (used once and don't rememberwhat was it) Jun 07 12:43:04 mickeyl: I had to learn patcher or quilt - choosed quilt as it is maintained still Jun 07 12:44:14 time to do a break. I'm officially sick so cannot sit whole time in front of computer ;) Jun 07 12:44:20 oops Jun 07 12:44:24 get well soon Jun 07 12:44:26 fsking flu.. Jun 07 12:44:41 I will have to get tonsils out probably Jun 07 12:45:10 I'm getting flu 3-5 times during year - mostly on vacations... Jun 07 12:46:32 bad timing Jun 07 12:47:22 common problem with IT people - usage of clothes not compatible with weather Jun 07 12:47:36 Yep. Jun 07 12:47:45 I refuse to give in to the weather! Jun 07 12:48:23 anyway will get some time to workout how to start my own business, upgrade my driver license to newest version, get new passport.. Jun 07 12:48:59 starting from August Polish passports has to have RFID inside - time to get one without it ;D Jun 07 12:49:05 uh oh Jun 07 12:49:06 hurry Jun 07 12:51:05 ;)) Jun 07 12:51:11 bbiab Jun 07 12:55:47 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r76de14a8... 10/packages/bootsplash/ (files/gcc-issues.patch bootsplash_3.0.7.bb): Jun 07 12:55:47 bootsplash: Fixing so it builds again Jun 07 12:55:47 * Gcc issues that refuses to build bootsplash should Jun 07 12:55:47 remove some warnings messages on 3.3.x and finally work for Jun 07 12:55:47 4.1.x. Jun 07 13:20:09 mickeyl: I also use quilt and develop directly using the OE build directories and -c compile -f Jun 07 13:21:07 mickeyl: We should add a kernel reconfigure task to kernel.bbclass :) Jun 07 13:57:29 ~kill uclibc Jun 07 13:57:31 * ibot shoots a excited pseudoneutrino gun at uclibc Jun 07 13:58:21 excited? Jun 07 13:59:37 something in my toolchain is hurting busybox with atexit() problems Jun 07 14:00:21 yet under buildroot it works Jun 07 14:01:29 the build options for my toolchain are the same for buildroot and OE grrrrrrr Jun 07 14:26:28 * chouimat is back. Jun 07 14:26:43 morning Jun 07 15:01:43 hello rp, lrg, i am back from holiday... Jun 07 15:02:09 hi greentux Jun 07 15:02:26 sorry, yes: hi hrw! Jun 07 15:03:03 greentux: you coming reminded me that i have to mail rmk to get card back Jun 07 15:05:54 heh.. when i lost ipkg status on this 512M card i have to reinstall everything... Jun 07 15:06:10 or will cat control files into status Jun 07 15:06:36 hrw: ok, so the card is not working properly? Jun 07 15:06:58 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r8bd6e144... 10/packages/linux/ (linux-ezx/ezx-backlight-r0.patch linux-ezx_2.6.16.13.bb): linux-ezx: first version of backlight driver works Jun 07 15:07:08 my 512M one? its rather ext2 not umounted.. Jun 07 15:07:59 hrw: no the one rmk has Jun 07 15:09:13 iirc was working after fixes Jun 07 15:09:38 hrw: oh ok. nice. Jun 07 15:10:56 greentux: how was holidays? Jun 07 15:11:04 s/was/were Jun 07 15:12:11 hrw: fine, i was in russia Jun 07 15:13:11 greentux: european or asian part? Jun 07 15:15:17 hrw: both ;) with transsib from moscow to vladivostok Jun 07 15:15:44 long trip Jun 07 15:16:22 that reminds that i need passport. Jun 07 15:16:41 7 days with the train, but we had a break at the baikal Jun 07 15:17:45 want it boring? Jun 07 15:17:56 whole days in train... Jun 07 15:18:33 no, i was supprised that is was not boring, stops every 3 or 4 hours, something to see outside, read some books etc Jun 07 15:26:43 "The Sofa King ----> Our price are sofa king low!!!" :) Jun 07 15:26:58 uf. regenerated ipkg status file. Jun 07 15:27:22 vim rule Jun 07 15:29:27 someone built vim 7.x in oe? Jun 07 15:31:48 cya Jun 07 15:32:42 eek, my internet connection is sucky today Jun 07 15:37:32 hey greentux Jun 07 15:38:26 hi lrg Jun 07 15:56:12 ok, going home. cu Jun 07 15:57:46 I saw #ifdef SASC in vim 7.0 sources and it makes me happy. Jun 07 16:02:05 vim 7.0 built Jun 07 16:02:17 * chouimat is away: lunch Jun 07 16:12:43 and it works :) Jun 07 16:20:16 moin woglinde Jun 07 16:20:21 re hrw Jun 07 16:21:20 hrw so whats with the laptop now? Jun 07 16:21:57 woglinde: still not bought it Jun 07 16:22:28 hrw *g* Jun 07 16:22:34 but you wanted consulting Jun 07 16:23:22 woglinde: yes. but now Im rather sick :( Jun 07 16:23:39 hm Jun 07 16:23:43 some cold? Jun 07 16:23:44 woglinde: idea is: get laptop to 600EUR Jun 07 16:23:55 hrw hm oh Jun 07 16:23:57 yes - got flu. Jun 07 16:24:07 I think that will be difficult Jun 07 16:24:10 for a new one Jun 07 16:24:24 have to get good back and then rip tonsils out. Jun 07 16:24:47 woglinde: i suspected that Jun 07 16:25:52 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r0fbcc5da... 10/packages/pvrusb2-mci/ (pvrusb2-mci-20060607/Makefile.patch pvrusb2-mci_20060607.bb): pvrusb2-mci: added 20060607 release Jun 07 16:26:14 hrw do you want it buy in berlin or via internet? Jun 07 16:26:56 woglinde: first want to know what can be possible and eventually buy it during "OEDEM" Jun 07 16:27:32 whats oedem? Jun 07 16:27:33 oedem - oe meeting in berlin Jun 07 16:27:37 oh Jun 07 16:27:43 hm oh Jun 07 16:28:08 we should start organize something Jun 07 16:28:12 I guess Jun 07 16:28:37 thats too probably Jun 07 16:28:50 Ibrb Jun 07 16:29:43 bye hrw Jun 07 16:30:51 ok. Ania came Jun 07 16:30:53 cu Jun 07 16:44:08 * Philippe is back (gone 20:04:32) Jun 07 16:44:32 re philippe Jun 07 16:44:46 hi woglinde Jun 07 16:50:01 Now I don't want to sound mean... But I just setup OE following the wiki and I tried emerge nano, and it failed =\ Jun 07 16:50:22 I need to spin up my drive to give out some errors so one second Jun 07 16:51:16 you mean bitbake nano? Jun 07 16:51:24 oh yah bitbake Jun 07 16:54:25 http://pastebin.com/765565 | here's a pastebin Jun 07 16:55:34 oh Jun 07 16:55:40 failed at qemu Jun 07 16:56:14 can ypu provide your local.conf too? Jun 07 16:57:32 sure Jun 07 16:58:00 http://pastebin.com/765574 Jun 07 16:59:28 familar-unstable as distro is right? Jun 07 17:00:13 It's available in org.openembedded.dev/conf/distro/ Jun 07 17:00:35 Should I try just the normal familiar? Jun 07 17:01:34 hi, I have a problem with -I. If I look at the temp file it says: Jun 07 17:01:35 NOTE: make ARCH=armeb CPU= CPUOPT= OPT=-isystem/home/frans/OpenSlugHead4/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include Jun 07 17:01:37 yes better use fiamilar Jun 07 17:01:54 The OPT part does not seem right, actually I expected something like -I /home/... Jun 07 17:02:04 anyone an idea where this comes from? Jun 07 17:02:58 If I downgrade to familiar, how do I clean bitbake to get rid of everything it's built with familiar-unstable? Or will just bitbake nano and see what happens? Jun 07 17:03:17 bitbake clean Jun 07 17:03:25 args bitbake -c clean Jun 07 17:03:57 for nano you can also try bitbake -b /patho.bb/packages/nano/nano.bb Jun 07 17:03:57 "ERROR: Remove this line or set a dummy DISTRO_VERSION if you really want to build an unversioned distro" | should I do that? Jun 07 17:04:19 Servo888: or you could use qemu that is on your distro Jun 07 17:04:35 yes zecke Jun 07 17:04:41 and set assume_provided Jun 07 17:04:46 hey Jun 07 17:04:51 helo moto :} Jun 07 17:04:55 oh no Jun 07 17:05:23 woglinde: do we see us tomorrow? Jun 07 17:06:05 ade|desk, qemu? I don't follow - how is an emulator related to familiar? Jun 07 17:06:28 * chouimat is back. Jun 07 17:06:41 oh koen leave already? Jun 07 17:06:54 Servo888: generating of locales using qemu Jun 07 17:07:05 Servo888: as it takes >128 MB of RAM on the target device Jun 07 17:07:31 Servo888: familiar decided/was forced to use qemu with the just compiled libc, to do the conversion when compiling, instead of postponing it Jun 07 17:09:39 zecke if you want Jun 07 17:09:48 I will be 13.30 at the wursbude Jun 07 17:09:59 or doenerstand Jun 07 17:11:53 time to go home Jun 07 17:11:58 cya folks Jun 07 17:12:18 i think i found the cause of my problem, need some expert advice on how to fix this. from bitbake.conf: Jun 07 17:12:18 conf/bitbake.conf:export TARGET_CPPFLAGS = "-isystem${STAGING_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/include" Jun 07 17:13:03 this does not seem ok. Shouldn't it be something like :export TARGET_CPPFLAGS = "-I ${STAGING_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/include" Jun 07 17:13:20 eFfeM: what issue? Jun 07 17:13:30 eFfeM: stuff that is broken with -isystem is broken :) Jun 07 17:13:50 eFfeM: this -isystem will put the included into the searchpath at the last position Jun 07 17:14:19 zecke: I have a problem compiling util-linux with gcc 4.1.1 but it fails to compile mount because unistd.h is not found Jun 07 17:15:05 zecke: should there be a space between system and the / from /home ? Jun 07 17:15:17 * eFfeM is browsing the cpp man page Jun 07 17:15:46 man says: -isystem dir Jun 07 17:15:52 this at least suggests a space Jun 07 17:16:02 eFfeM: you put -I/foo as well, but try :) Jun 07 17:17:30 zecke, not me, I always use -I /foo with a space inbetween Jun 07 17:18:04 eFfeM: please try with a space Jun 07 17:18:14 eFfeM: alternatively run make with strace and follow forks Jun 07 17:18:17 yes will do Jun 07 17:18:19 eFfeM: and mail it to me :) Jun 07 17:25:27 zecke, space does not help, how can I easily run make with strace? I normally only build through bitbake Jun 07 17:27:17 eFfeM: edit the shell file directly :) Jun 07 17:27:34 eFfeM: in the WORKDIR/tmp you have run do compile and add an strace into oe_runmake() Jun 07 17:28:05 ok Jun 07 17:39:55 zecke: haev the strace output, where do you want me to send it to ? Jun 07 17:41:00 eFfeM: did you follow forks? Jun 07 17:41:11 eFfeM: please take a look and search for unistd.h Jun 07 17:41:20 eFfeM: and where it searched for it... Jun 07 17:42:02 eFfeM: oh and did it compile with -nostdinc or such? Jun 07 17:43:29 oops, no follow forks Jun 07 17:43:34 redoing with -f Jun 07 17:43:55 * eFfeM uses strace for the first time, that wasn't around in my time (unix v7) ...) Jun 07 17:44:28 efem really? Jun 07 17:44:34 the first time? Jun 07 17:45:23 did people ever use v7? :} Jun 07 17:45:39 actually i think it is the second time, gave it a try last week for another issue ... Jun 07 17:45:43 yes! Jun 07 17:45:59 effem than you should know about ltrace too Jun 07 17:46:22 woglinde: ltrace is broken on ARM and I didn't find the time to fix it :} Jun 07 17:46:29 * eFfeM actually did most of the minix ST 1.5 version :-) and even has a 3rd generation copy of the lions v6 annoted source code :-) I am that old..... Jun 07 17:46:34 zecke you bastard *g* Jun 07 17:46:35 woglinde: Debian is about to die? more and more people start using Ubuntu Jun 07 17:46:43 zecke now way Jun 07 17:46:46 -w Jun 07 17:47:03 woglinde: steve and two others upgrade to ubuntu :) Jun 07 17:47:08 if debian dies ubuntu dies to Jun 07 17:47:27 I heard a cool joke Jun 07 17:47:31 woglinde: maybe in a decade or two, once etch's feature set is finalised Jun 07 17:47:34 whats mean ubuntu? Jun 07 17:47:43 woglinde: they might consider switching back Jun 07 17:47:48 woglinde: die debian die :) Jun 07 17:47:50 it's african word for "cant configure debian" Jun 07 17:48:08 eFfeM: 'did' minix ST? Jun 07 17:48:23 woglinde: so debootstrap is Ubuntu? Jun 07 17:48:33 woglinde: as debootstrap can't even chroot... Jun 07 17:48:50 zecke bah Jun 07 17:49:03 woglinde: so debootstrap is ubuntu Jun 07 17:49:12 woglinde: but debootstrap is just a bad wrapper around wget Jun 07 17:49:16 woglinde: so ubuntu means wget? Jun 07 17:49:41 zecke do you want fishes? nice little fishes? Jun 07 17:49:42 woglinde: this -arch option for debootstrap is ridicoulous Jun 07 17:49:43 zecke it gets unistd.h from /home/frans/OpenSlugHead4/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/unistd.h Jun 07 17:50:08 eFfeM: is that SuperH? Jun 07 17:50:12 eFfeM: oh sorry :} Jun 07 17:50:16 this one does not contain __NR_umount2; it is in the asm/unistd.h version Jun 07 17:50:53 eFfeM: then mount should include ? Jun 07 17:51:17 hm I tought never include directly from asm Jun 07 17:51:18 eFfeM: as this mount is pretty linux specific it should be okay Jun 07 17:51:31 zecke "did minix ST" is perhaps too loosely formulated. I've done most of the patches and testing of minix 1.5 on atari st taking the ST 1.1 version and Tanenbaum's PC patches as a starter Jun 07 17:51:53 eFfeM: ah okay, ST is Atari then Jun 07 17:51:54 kewl Jun 07 17:51:57 zecke, I think so, but it works with gcc 3.4.4 Jun 07 17:52:13 eFfeM: I hope to port minix to ARM in class... Jun 07 17:52:21 eFfeM: it does? unistd.h should come from libc right? Jun 07 17:52:34 effem in we winterterm zecke and I will attend operating systems Jun 07 17:52:45 effem and the last courses were hold on minix Jun 07 17:52:58 woglinde: well I have programmed minix when i was 12 :} Jun 07 17:53:07 hi all Jun 07 17:53:14 zecke you never told me Jun 07 17:53:20 hi gremlin Jun 07 17:53:23 eFfeM: http://www.busybox.net/downloads/patches/svn-780.patch Jun 07 17:53:29 woglinde: hehe, I'm sure I did Jun 07 17:53:33 just a question ... oe was 'moved' to monotone 0.25 ? Jun 07 17:53:40 woglinde: first I got Design and Implementation of linux 1.2 Jun 07 17:53:52 woglinde: and then Modern Operating Systems, and this Minix book Jun 07 17:54:00 woglinde: from the 'Statdbibliothek' :} Jun 07 17:54:03 zecke no you didnt Jun 07 17:54:22 woglinde: I did, specially because I offered to give the book to you Jun 07 17:54:31 woglinde: well, I didn't get most of the stuff at that time Jun 07 17:55:11 oh well back to physics :} Jun 07 17:55:17 cya in an hour Jun 07 17:55:32 eFfeM: it looks like other people have patches for this error... Jun 07 17:55:50 zecke, i stand corrected did find the wrong call from unistd.h, the one for my file seems to be Jun 07 17:55:51 /home/frans/OpenSlugHead4/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/include/asm/unistd.h Jun 07 17:56:06 ops error ... monotone 0.26 ... i upgraded my workstation to FC5 so i'm looking what version of monotone i have to install Jun 07 17:56:28 code in mount/umount.c is: Jun 07 17:56:29 #include Jun 07 17:56:29 #ifdef __NR_umount2 Jun 07 17:56:29 static int umount2(const char *path, int flags); Jun 07 17:56:57 hmm later :} Jun 07 17:57:01 *physics* Jun 07 17:57:13 gcc 4.1.1 complains about the static, because unistd.h has umount2 without the static Jun 07 17:57:42 physics. (when I was at uni I would have said physics *sigh*) Jun 07 17:57:47 * eFfeM is EE Jun 07 17:57:56 I'm looking for a place to buy SLC-1000 or SLC3XXX that isn't ebay.... anyone? Jun 07 17:57:59 back in 10 mins Jun 07 18:15:14 I wonder if all 2GB cards are >= v4.2 of the spec? If so, we could Jun 07 18:15:14 do what would appear correct to both the spec and reality, and select Jun 07 18:15:14 512 byte blocksizes irrespective if they conform to v4.2 or later. Jun 07 18:15:16 yay Jun 07 18:15:17 finally Jun 07 18:18:19 wow the system now boot in runlevel 6 .... Jun 07 18:28:09 anyone know where I can buy a newer zaurus besides ebay? Jun 07 18:28:33 >>> docomolabs-usa <<< uhhhh docomo outside japan !!! :) Jun 07 19:35:27 + output = *((unsigned short *) dest); Jun 07 19:35:27 + output = output++; Jun 07 19:35:39 doh Jun 07 19:37:11 lol Jun 07 19:37:39 where is the fixpoint for that Jun 07 19:37:54 I talked about bootsplash last night remember Jun 07 19:38:12 hi zecke Jun 07 19:38:15 It had some issues and I replaced the first line with the second line Jun 07 19:38:17 re effem Jun 07 19:38:21 finished with the physics? Jun 07 19:39:05 found the problem, gcc 4.1.1. with the std settings did not like a redeclaration of umount with static declarator Jun 07 19:39:06 eFfeM: I declared the assignment done :} Jun 07 19:39:09 made a patch Jun 07 19:39:14 nice :) Jun 07 19:39:26 I love how -isystem gets blamed at random Jun 07 19:39:52 sorry, actually I was unaware of -isystem Jun 07 19:40:13 eFfeM: well it was unaware to me as well Jun 07 19:40:20 eFfeM: until I watched compiling of gcc Jun 07 19:40:57 okay need to 'work' now :} Jun 07 19:41:07 I wish this term would end... Jun 07 19:41:18 woglinde: I won't do any summer course this autumn... Jun 07 19:41:34 woglinde: I try to get the VD done and leave Physics 'Praktikum' for the winter Jun 07 19:42:52 mickey|bbiab: do you think I should ask for Qtopia GPL again? Jun 07 19:42:54 actually have to catch up with 15 yrs being away from *nix systems Jun 07 19:42:57 mickey|bbiab: or will you help me? Jun 07 19:43:15 eFfeM: I have never used any non unix system :} Jun 07 19:43:26 eFfeM: well do, but I didn't know what a system was... Jun 07 19:44:01 i fear i did dos as well as vms and several other systems Jun 07 19:45:00 managed to recompile the kernel with gcc 4.1.1, on nslu2 (be) still need to test my work Jun 07 19:45:05 vms rockz Jun 07 19:45:19 vms causes rsi with those long options Jun 07 19:45:27 * eFfeM graduaded on a pdp11 Jun 07 19:45:28 rsi? Jun 07 19:45:35 Any ETA on the 2.6.17 kernel? :) been waiting like hell for it a couple of weeks Jun 07 19:46:01 back to the movie Jun 07 19:46:06 nite folks Jun 07 19:46:10 effem which movie? Jun 07 19:46:13 nite chriss Jun 07 19:46:18 nitge woglinde Jun 07 19:46:56 waterworld Jun 07 19:47:01 have seen it already Jun 07 19:47:06 but quite a long time ago Jun 07 19:47:08 dutch tv Jun 07 19:47:38 hehe Jun 07 19:48:30 eFfeM: awesome Jun 07 19:48:43 eFfeM: why can't I run make openslug from my openslug install? Jun 07 19:49:00 eFfeM: it claims it is 'done' Jun 07 19:52:44 zecke, I use make openslug-image Jun 07 19:52:56 i don't rebuild all the packages Jun 07 19:52:56 that works? Jun 07 19:53:03 yes Jun 07 19:53:10 eFfeM: I want to build everything Jun 07 19:53:19 pull the master makefile, do make setup, then run make Jun 07 19:53:30 hmm Jun 07 19:54:00 i think you should do make openslug-image openslug-packages Jun 07 19:54:08 (from quickly looking at the makefile Jun 07 19:54:13 otherwise ask rwhitby Jun 07 19:54:26 back later Jun 07 20:07:03 Anyone object if i putup a svn version of scummvm? the current is abit old, (0.61 against the new 0.89) Jun 07 20:09:09 simple question: after I do "bitbake app" and the app is built how do I install the app into my rootfs image? Jun 07 20:09:46 Gerrath, when you are running your rootfs or before? Jun 07 20:09:59 you need to add it to the list of packages in your meta .bb Jun 07 20:10:01 gerrath start the rootfs and run ipkg Jun 07 20:11:08 ok, so two solutions: add it to a.bb already being built or mount the rootfs and run ipkg. Jun 07 20:11:37 I think they mean, if your target is running, then just use ipkg Jun 07 20:11:51 yes, sorry. Jun 07 20:11:53 Gerrath, or you can add it to your distro file Jun 07 20:11:53 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r99f9fc9e... 10/packages/util-linux/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Jun 07 20:11:53 util-linux: gcc 4.1.1 did not like umount being redeclared as static Jun 07 20:11:53 made patch to remove static, included it in the inc file Jun 07 20:11:53 bumped all PRs of the files that include that file Jun 07 20:12:02 Mounting the rootfs would only work if you're playing with the same architecture as your build system Jun 07 20:12:19 I was thinking NFS when I made that comment. Jun 07 20:12:30 yeah nfsroot Jun 07 20:13:19 if I add it to a .bb were is the cleanest place to do that? Jun 07 20:14:17 in the meta file that builds your image Jun 07 20:16:36 CosmicPenguin, you mean the build/conf file or the actual .bb file for building the kernel image, or in the /conf/machine file? Jun 07 20:17:02 the .bb for building the image Jun 07 20:17:11 not the kernel image - but the whole enchiilada Jun 07 20:24:33 Gerrath: check out the oe/packages/meta directory Jun 07 20:25:23 Gerrath: basically a meta package is just a package that depends on a bunch of other packages, thus forcing them all to be built and included in an image. Jun 07 20:42:15 why is /dev/dsp missing from the bootstrap-image? Jun 07 20:44:16 Or rather what package handles what devices that gets created Jun 07 20:44:53 that depends on many factors Jun 07 20:45:30 CosmicPenguin, what factors?.. I basicly just want to get a couple of more devices in there Jun 07 20:45:55 well, are you using 2.4 or 2.6? udev or not? jffs2 or something else? Jun 07 20:45:56 many factors Jun 07 20:46:30 ken: device_table? Jun 07 20:46:37 zecke, yeah thats it Jun 07 20:46:40 where can i find it Jun 07 20:46:47 ken: not in packages? Jun 07 20:46:49 ! Jun 07 20:47:00 ? Jun 07 20:47:06 files/ Jun 07 20:47:06 device_table-minimal.txt device_table-unslung.txt Jun 07 20:47:06 device_table-slugos.txt Jun 07 20:47:12 ah doh Jun 07 20:47:19 zecke, thx man Jun 07 20:47:22 ken: probably used by base files or such Jun 07 20:47:33 ken: I don't know if the 'overrides' just apply Jun 07 20:48:07 but should be alright to just put a jlime device table list there.., and hopefully it will grab it for all images Jun 07 20:49:12 ken: jlime yes Jun 07 20:49:50 grep -rni device_table * Jun 07 20:50:40 ken: hmm, we should make OVERRIDES apply to this file :} Jun 07 20:50:54 not now though :} Jun 07 20:51:01 not me now... Jun 07 20:51:28 haha Jun 07 21:08:45 * Philippe is away: visual contact - melancholic dreams Jun 07 21:09:47 nite Jun 07 21:09:55 nite zecke Jun 07 21:12:18 what is different between zaurus 3100 or 3000? Jun 07 21:13:02 about 100 Jun 07 21:13:03 hehe Jun 07 21:13:10 * CosmicPenguin goes away Jun 07 21:13:47 hi thejapa Jun 07 21:13:49 :) Jun 07 21:13:58 woglinde: hi man Jun 07 21:14:04 got lpi 101 today Jun 07 21:14:10 tomorrow is 102 Jun 07 21:14:36 damn, keeping 2 build trees for openembedded takes almost 8gb Jun 07 21:15:11 thejapa hm Jun 07 21:15:20 multiarch.conf? Jun 07 21:15:30 can take a hell of a lot more than that, depending on what you're building :) Jun 07 21:15:48 last time i did a world it was like 20-25, and that was around a year ago :) Jun 07 21:15:55 no, I just made two dirs, one to build familiar other for openzaurus Jun 07 21:15:57 s/world/world build/ Jun 07 21:16:07 thejapa ah hm Jun 07 21:17:56 kergoth: i believe in you. :( sum that with gentoo running in a 40gb harddrive and you got a serious problem with space. Jun 07 21:18:46 better then needing 4g of memory for one build like we used to... :) Jun 07 21:19:39 cp: jeez Jun 07 21:19:44 got only 512mb Jun 07 21:19:52 those were the days Jun 07 21:20:29 thejapa why you are using gentoo? Jun 07 21:21:07 hehe Jun 07 21:22:31 oh. you mean, why I'm not using debian? Jun 07 21:24:14 thejappa YES Jun 07 21:24:15 *g* Jun 07 21:24:39 woglinde: right, I find it easier to answer than the original question. Jun 07 21:25:00 Any good way to change the default background on opie-image? Jun 07 21:25:06 I always step into weird dependencies in debian, we got some sort of non-resolved issue, debian and I Jun 07 21:25:26 thejapa hm? Jun 07 21:25:35 last time I tried it, when I did apt-get install kdevelop, it uninstalled gnome Jun 07 21:25:37 I always wait some days and than they are fixe Jun 07 21:25:38 d Jun 07 21:25:45 hehe Jun 07 21:25:48 thats nice Jun 07 21:25:53 dont like gnome Jun 07 21:26:25 i don't have patience for that. so, gentoo does the trick. Jun 07 21:26:51 i love fedora too, but when it comes to compile stuff, i guess it gives too much work. Jun 07 21:26:59 thejapa dont have the time to wait if xserver is compiled after bumbing some minor number Jun 07 21:28:14 okay Jun 07 21:28:18 will go to bed now Jun 07 21:28:37 nite all Jun 07 21:35:13 Where can I change the default opie-image background? Jun 07 21:49:13 Is there a conflict mechanism for OE packages? Jun 07 21:55:47 hi Jun 07 21:56:19 CoreDump|home, hey :) Jun 07 22:15:18 Laibsch: yep, and there is an alternatives mechanism for individual files too. Jun 07 22:16:59 rwhitby: Thanks. Jun 07 22:22:15 I want to get all modules included in /lib/modules on my opie-image, do I need to do RDEPEND and such for every module I want included? Jun 07 22:23:18 ken: you want to do it for every opie-image you build? Jun 07 22:23:27 or just for a particular one? Jun 07 22:23:52 sorry, was a stupid question I guess. Jun 07 22:24:08 every image :) Jun 07 22:24:45 It's just a hassle to put every module in rdepend. Would like something like "include_all_modules_in_image = yes" Jun 07 22:26:22 there is a meta kernel module package Jun 07 22:27:32 So, I simply put that as an RDEPEND instead? Jun 07 22:27:55 yep Jun 07 22:28:06 nicy, thx man Jun 07 22:33:47 CosmicPenguin, cant find that package , where is it? Jun 07 22:34:37 I can't remember how it is build - it might be by configuration Jun 07 22:35:01 oki, will look through the other distro files then Jun 07 22:38:01 hmm, scons is damn cool Jun 07 22:38:25 CosmicPenguin, btw you dont happen to know where the default opie image is kept?..or which package that handles it? Jun 07 22:40:59 ken: you mean the .bb file? Jun 07 22:41:05 yeah Jun 07 22:41:10 marcosu@wanderer /stuff/org.openembedded.dev $ find . -iname "*opie-image*" Jun 07 22:41:11 ./packages/meta/opie-image.bb Jun 07 22:41:12 the package that sets the default background Jun 07 22:41:18 oh, sorry Jun 07 22:41:28 ah, thx anyways Jun 07 22:41:44 it's probably in opie-common or something. /me hasnt looked at opie in ages though Jun 07 22:41:49 sorry -I don't play with OPIE Jun 07 22:42:09 oki, its driving me nuts that I got 3x opie backgrounds due to the jornada being 640x240 Jun 07 22:43:04 theres a var in oe that it obeys to indicate that you have a large screen.. Jun 07 22:43:08 maybe you just need to set that Jun 07 22:43:12 check the various machine .conf's Jun 07 22:43:38 what are SLC-3000 and SLC-3100 called? Jun 07 22:43:45 Zero_Chaos: spitz and borzoi Jun 07 22:44:00 the latter just uses the spitz config in OZ Jun 07 22:44:01 NAbyss: I thought SLC-1000 was spitz? Jun 07 22:44:11 Zero_Chaos: 1000 is akita Jun 07 22:44:15 right, right Jun 07 22:44:27 too many dog names.. Jun 07 22:44:29 NAbyss: so for either 3000 or 3100 I use spitz conf? Jun 07 22:45:27 kergoth, ah thx Jun 07 22:46:44 Zero_Chaos: Yes Jun 07 22:46:48 MACHINE=spitz Jun 07 22:46:53 NAbyss: thanks Jun 07 22:46:55 np Jun 07 22:47:04 and does that model support kernel 2.6? Jun 07 22:47:33 Zero_Chaos: Yes, as of oz3.5.4.1-rc*, and org.oe.dev Jun 07 22:47:42 awesome Jun 07 22:47:47 KERNEL_VERSION = "2.6" Jun 07 22:47:51 I've been using it since about November Jun 07 22:48:01 Possibly Dec/Jan Jun 07 22:48:05 I'm useless with time. Jun 07 22:48:22 do we have an rt2570 driver in oe? Jun 07 22:48:32 What kind of device is that? Jun 07 22:48:41 NAbyss: USB wifi adapter Jun 07 22:48:53 linux compatable, blah blah blah Jun 07 22:49:09 Zero_Chaos: Is that the module name in linux? Jun 07 22:49:18 NAbyss: and the project name Jun 07 22:49:54 doesn't look like it Jun 07 22:50:04 guess I'll get to make it :-) Jun 07 22:50:14 Hmm, there's no kernel-module-rt2570.. just edit the defconfig :) Jun 07 22:50:23 NAbyss: it's not in the kernel Jun 07 22:50:43 tmp/work/spitz-linux/linux-openzaurus-2.6.16-r34/defconfig-spitz Jun 07 22:50:46 Ah, smeg. Jun 07 22:52:49 kergoth, you know a good way to add all modules to an opie-image, aside from using RDEPEND for each module? Jun 07 23:10:03 ken: as someone told you earlier, you should be able to just pull in the kernel module meta package. iirc its called kernel-modules Jun 07 23:10:25 oki, thx Jun 07 23:25:17 * emte directs the hatred ray towards mouser electronics Jun 07 23:29:18 haha Jun 07 23:29:36 a whole week modifying the wrong local.conf file is fun Jun 07 23:30:03 that's why things never build correctly Jun 07 23:44:31 thejapa, hehe Jun 08 00:22:09 is this a harmful mesage? : one_wire_reset: OWM reset failed -110 (0x000c) Jun 08 00:23:26 CSMan: not harmful. Just means that 1wire (battery monitor bus) wasn't able to reset. It may work later, or at worst, your battery monitoring won't work. Jun 08 00:26:59 mreimer: curiously it happens everytime i insmod mmc_asic3 Jun 08 00:44:31 there's such thing as hard reset when you run linux on handhelds, right ? Jun 08 00:45:30 csman: sometimes when I suspend my h2200 (familiar 2.6.15-hh0 - matt's build, unpatched yet) it does hard reset. Jun 08 00:45:59 but in my case, Matt patched it, I just didn't applied it yet. Jun 08 00:55:26 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * rde74faf6... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jun 08 00:55:26 JLime-Donkey.conf: Changes to distro file and new jlime kernel files Jun 08 00:55:26 * Addition of linux-jlime-sh3_2.6.16.20.bb Jun 08 00:55:26 * Addition of linux-jlime-sh3-2.6.16.20/defconfig_jlime Jun 08 00:55:26 * Changes to jlime-donkey.conf (include kernel-modules in bootst.) Jun 08 01:05:31 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r9a90d7c1... 10/packages/base-files/ (base-files/jornada6xx/fstab base-files_3.0.14.bb): Jun 08 01:05:31 base-files/jornada6xx: Addition of machine specific fstab Jun 08 01:05:31 * Jornada6xx always has wince partition at /dev/hda1 Jun 08 01:05:31 and ordinarily root=/dev/hda2. Jun 08 01:05:32 * Adds JLime as hostname if distro=jlime. Jun 08 02:58:42 Anyone here use IDA pro and know how to define 'constants' in it? say I want to identity 0x53000000 as WTCON **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 08 02:59:56 2006