**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jun 17 02:59:57 2006 Jun 17 03:03:35 must resist urge for new toy Jun 17 03:19:37 <[g2]> ggilbert what new toy do you want ? Jun 17 05:47:29 hmm 08:03 Jun 17 05:47:33 can't sleep well these days Jun 17 06:19:40 try stry sleeping with a 9 month old that wakes every 2 hours Jun 17 06:30:49 :ibot seen RP Jun 17 06:31:51 ibot: RP? Jun 17 06:32:27 hvontres: ~seen RP Jun 17 06:32:38 ~seen RP Jun 17 06:32:40 thanks Jun 17 06:32:50 ~seen RP Jun 17 06:32:51 rp is currently on #gpe (2d 20h 7m 31s) #oe (2d 20h 7m 31s) #openzaurus (2d 20h 7m 31s) #handhelds.org (2d 20h 7m 31s). Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 18h 5m 18s, last said: 'slaine_: Yes, it will try and cross compile'. Jun 17 06:32:54 rp is currently on #gpe (2d 20h 7m 33s) #oe (2d 20h 7m 33s) #openzaurus (2d 20h 7m 33s) #handhelds.org (2d 20h 7m 33s). Has said a total of 107 messages. Is idling for 18h 5m 20s, last said: 'slaine_: Yes, it will try and cross compile'. Jun 17 07:55:21 morning Jun 17 09:33:54 hi all Jun 17 09:40:49 After fixing my monotone problems I was able to test the MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION variable as I promised. Here is my local.conf (http://pastebin.com/714536) and here is the resulting error (http://pastebin.com/714534). Monotone database version b1413be68019496f10dcfa8c854fd6644adecd93. Jun 17 09:42:08 ibot:botmail read Jun 17 09:42:50 sorry I will never learn to use ibot I thik *g. How to get the ibot manpage? Jun 17 09:45:50 mr_nice: you should use bitbake command from the build/ directory, not from build/conf/ Jun 17 09:47:03 did you correctly set the BBPATH and added bitbake to the PATH ? (see http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted in case) Jun 17 09:47:58 cyrilRomain:mom Jun 17 09:49:01 cyrilRomain: here are my Variables (http://pastebin.com/714558) Jun 17 09:49:55 cyrilRomain: they shuld fit and due to the variables the path where I set up the bitbake command shuld be unimportant. Jun 17 09:51:14 mr_nice: hum... strange then .. Jun 17 09:51:18 cyrilRomain: I think it is just because the changes arn't prooven. Jun 17 09:51:49 cyrilRomain: they have changed them 2 days ago and I shuld test them - I only want to report the result. Jun 17 09:52:30 mr_nice: what changes ? (sorry I was not on OE for 3 days) Jun 17 09:53:31 cyrilRomain: they changed the ZKERNEL variable which was only for zaurus to MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION, which shuld do for other devices, too. Jun 17 09:54:08 cyrilRomain: and the simpad.conf file. Jun 17 09:54:21 mr_nice: ok thx Jun 17 09:54:59 cyrilRomain:do you know how to get the ibot manpage? I have forgoten how to get it Jun 17 09:56:03 mr_nice: no sorry, maybe ibot: help ? Jun 17 09:57:18 mr_nice: do you have the conf/include/simpad-2.6.conf file ? Jun 17 09:57:42 hey Jun 17 09:57:58 mr_nice: hum ... it should be in conf/machine/include/simpad-2.6.conf i guess, not in conf/include/simpad-2.6.conf Jun 17 09:58:01 hey zecke Jun 17 09:58:11 cyrilRomain:there is no simpad-2.6.conf file and tere shuldn't be one Jun 17 09:58:36 cyrilRomain: ther is only one simpad.conf file for both kernels Jun 17 09:58:43 first day since weeks a feel a bit relaxed Jun 17 09:58:53 zecke:hi Jun 17 10:00:54 cyrilRomain: It is just due to unprooven changes Jun 17 10:01:17 mr_nice: ok, no clue then Jun 17 10:01:57 cyrilRomain: no mater as I told you I just wanted to report that I have tested it and there are thoose errors Jun 17 10:02:32 cyrilRomain:meenwhile I use my own simpad.conf and local.con files Jun 17 10:02:43 cyrilRomain:but manx thx Jun 17 10:08:33 which version controll system could I use for homeuse? I want to have my own local org.openembedded.dev and i don't want to mess my monotone twice *g Jun 17 10:09:57 mr_nice: monotone and keep a local branch Jun 17 10:10:13 or even just a local db :) Jun 17 10:13:26 zecke: I will try. BTW: I have forgotten how to get the ibot help page - cloud you say me please how to get it? Jun 17 10:15:53 ~help Jun 17 10:16:00 mr_nice: /msg ibot help Jun 17 10:16:22 mr_nice: or just write ~help and ibot will talk to you Jun 17 10:16:46 zecke:thx :) Jun 17 10:17:35 ~help Jun 17 10:50:24 rwhitby: eFfeM-away : where is the nslu2 development mailing list? Jun 17 10:51:38 I don't know if it is usefull but I have created slackware packages for monotone and qemu. I've tried to lend on the linuxpackages.org name conversation. But I dont added the bgu as a replacement of the 1 cause I don't like it - but you can just rename it. The description shows my name this is a convention that the users don't bag slackware for crapy packages ;). here is the link (http://test.opensimpad.org/slackware/). If you think the .SlackBuild Jun 17 10:52:40 using Slackware is still on my todolist :} Jun 17 10:52:55 mr_nice: you can place a link in the wiki and mail oeAThandhelds.org if you want to Jun 17 10:55:21 zecke: nslu2-developers@yahoogroups.com Jun 17 10:57:33 zecke:how to get a user account? Jun 17 10:57:59 mr_nice: good question! you can add new sites and edit existing ones without an account Jun 17 10:58:15 mr_nice: I'm a noob on drupal so can't answer on how to get an account :} Jun 17 10:58:53 eFfeM-away: thanks, I should have looked at the bottom of this yahoo site :} Jun 17 10:59:15 np Jun 17 10:59:32 gone again in a few minutes Jun 17 10:59:52 njs: ping Jun 17 11:02:37 zecke: ok wiki is changed Jun 17 11:04:00 zecke:set the task first on your todo list *g Jun 17 11:09:30 Cwiiis: I have not seen abauer yet Jun 17 11:12:11 what ist the bitbake name for a building system in qemuarm so I could use qemuarm to "native" build arm packages like familiar do? I have changed the local.conf file allready. Jun 17 11:13:33 zecke: pong Jun 17 11:13:40 (here briefly) Jun 17 11:13:40 mr_nice: building name == package name Jun 17 11:13:56 njs: can mtn 0.26 extract the keys from a monotone 0.24 database? Jun 17 11:14:00 e.g. db migrate? Jun 17 11:14:18 njs: I'm sending out the announcement of the 0.25->0.26 monotone conversation Jun 17 11:14:20 key packets are compatible Jun 17 11:15:00 njs: I want to avoid the situation where people throw aways their private key :) Jun 17 11:15:09 so if you want to get the keys from an 0.24 db, you can use 0.24 to get the packet and then read it into an 0.26 db, or else you can use 0.26 to do "db migrate", umm, I think you might then have to do "db rosterify" before it will do anything else, and then you could pull the keys out and throw the db away. Jun 17 11:15:15 private key is in ~/.monotone/keys! Jun 17 11:15:25 err... I think it is anyway. Maybe in 0.24 it isn't. Jun 17 11:15:28 njs: since monotone 0.25 Jun 17 11:15:40 okay :) Jun 17 11:15:55 njs: we will be rosterified by the 21st of next month :} Jun 17 11:16:23 cool :-) Jun 17 11:16:33 zecke: I hoped there is just something like bitbake bootstrap-image Jun 17 11:16:47 mr_nice: I didn't get the question Jun 17 11:17:12 zecke: actually, yeah, if what you want are private keys, just doing 'db migrate' with 0.26 will extract them to ~/.monotone/keys Jun 17 11:17:17 zecke: no rosterify needed Jun 17 11:17:48 awesome :) Jun 17 11:18:28 zecke: I want to build such a building image which is used in familiar to build packages inside of qemuarm. Jun 17 11:20:16 mr_nice: since when is familiar doing this? Jun 17 11:20:24 mr_nice: and if they do probably ask them on how they do it Jun 17 11:20:43 zecke: okidokes, thanks for keeping me updated :) Jun 17 11:20:52 :} Jun 17 11:22:09 zecke: I don't know. It could be, that I missunderstood the local.conf file. Jun 17 11:22:31 mr_nice: we use qemuarm for binary locale generation Jun 17 11:22:44 mr_nice: this is used e.g. by familiar and angstrom Jun 17 11:24:26 zecke: What meens binary locale generation? Building binary inside of qemu than using a crosscompiler? Jun 17 11:25:07 mr_nice: glibc, locales e.g. EN_GB.UTF-8 Jun 17 11:25:28 mr_nice: these are binary files, generated by a tool from glibc Jun 17 11:25:44 mr_nice: sadly this can require more than 128MB of RAM Jun 17 11:25:59 mr_nice: this is why familiar is using qemuarm to run the script in advance.. Jun 17 11:27:32 why all 5345352098 of them actually need to be built is totally beyond me Jun 17 11:27:34 zecke:ah ok. so there is no compilation inside of qemuarm. only a script runs inside it which creates thoose locales. Jun 17 11:30:36 mr_nice: atm yes Jun 17 11:30:54 jacques: that is a distribution decision Jun 17 11:31:00 zecke:thx Jun 17 11:31:18 zecke, oh? you mean there is a config for it? Jun 17 11:31:19 jacques: and as a distribution I would not play the "big fat white-men" card Jun 17 11:31:40 jacques: currently either on or off, and a patch is circulating to limit the locale generation to a subset Jun 17 11:32:12 where can I find that patch? Jun 17 11:33:34 jacques: dunno, I think RP authored it Jun 17 11:33:49 and yes this should be in OE, but recently most of us are busy with work and real life Jun 17 11:33:50 don't make me start comparing compute time spent building the locales vs. people actually using the bottom 95% of them. Jun 17 11:35:06 jacques: I could play the white european. "We only need germany" and I could play the Opie guy. We don't need any locales... Jun 17 11:35:55 zecke, none of that will change the fact that the locale set should have been configurable in glibc for a decade Jun 17 11:37:08 anyone built an image from scratch recently (i.e. rm -fr tmp then bitbake image) ? Jun 17 11:37:26 saying anyone who doesn't want to build all the locales is some sort of bigot ? Jun 17 11:37:52 jacques: people should use uclibc anyway Jun 17 11:38:11 this is for my own use, and I don't speak 99.99% of the languages in the world. Jun 17 11:38:12 jacques: but again, there are patches, you can test the patches, patches will be in SCM then Jun 17 11:38:24 jacques: you have the 'source', you can 'change' it Jun 17 11:38:32 jacques: and policy to the distribution, not in OE Jun 17 11:38:46 zecke, I am blaming glibc Jun 17 11:38:49 not oe Jun 17 11:39:04 jacques: oh well, Ulrich is making it more and more obvious Jun 17 11:39:10 I've ran into an issue whereby the host tools (e.g. FC5 quilt) are being used instead of OE built tools. It's not even attempting to built quilt.... Jun 17 11:39:13 jacques: "glibc is not for small systems, piss off!" Jun 17 11:39:21 lrg: :} Jun 17 11:39:23 and I would love to use uclibc, but it doesn't have NPTL Jun 17 11:39:32 hey zecke Jun 17 11:39:45 jacques: and I think a distribution should carry all locales Jun 17 11:40:25 uh, ok let's include 16MB of binary locales in every disy Jun 17 11:40:26 dist Jun 17 11:40:29 jacques: and yes, looking at a poky build, most time is spent on glibc locale generation Jun 17 11:40:43 jacques: yes 16mb of packages is fair Jun 17 11:41:01 (if you use glibc) Jun 17 11:41:15 but this is a distribution that is multi national, global... Jun 17 11:41:22 anyway... Jun 17 11:41:40 need to work now Jun 17 11:41:52 lrg: not building quilt is strange Jun 17 11:42:00 lrg, I know Jun 17 11:42:04 doh Jun 17 11:43:01 zecke, It starts of by building gnu-config first and then fails with the wrong version of quilt Jun 17 11:43:14 fails at do_patch Jun 17 11:43:34 I had quilt stop building for me about a year ago on one machine only Jun 17 11:43:36 lrg: bitbake -vvv and mail it to me please Jun 17 11:43:51 zecke, will do Jun 17 11:43:57 I had to burn that hard drive - never figured it out after spending several days on it Jun 17 11:44:36 zecke: Nothing to do. Jun 17 11:44:53 I'm using bitbake 536 Jun 17 11:45:38 lrg: bitbake -vvv STUFF :) Jun 17 11:45:50 lrg: but I don't know what you tried to build Jun 17 11:46:06 zecke: ah - not having a good day so far ;) Jun 17 11:46:57 got a hung over? Jun 17 11:48:13 zecke: no, just have too much todo :( Jun 17 11:49:12 oh that is pretty common these days, I need to go offline as well to get stuff done Jun 17 11:49:21 and probably move into the cold cellar to really focus Jun 17 11:51:14 zecke: I'm pretty much the same. Multitasking isnt easy :-/ Jun 17 11:53:20 yupp, I wish I would be female :) Jun 17 11:53:32 heh Jun 17 11:55:56 hi Jun 17 11:57:58 hm, while letting bitbake 1.4.2 parsing the metadata, i'm getting lots of "bb.build.FuncFailed:("can't read from file '%s' (%s)", ('.../build/tmp/staging/mipsel-linux/kernel/kernel-abiversion', )) while evaluating: ${SHLIBS} kernel (${KERNEL_VERSION})". Because of a monotone bug, i need to use outdated metadata (~beginning of april), is that related to this? Is there an easy way to backport the required chan Jun 17 11:58:33 tmbinc_: short or long explanation? Jun 17 11:58:36 on the other hand, i can just ignore these errors for now, as they seem relate to arm-only packages (and i'm on mipsel) Jun 17 11:58:56 tmbinc_: bitbake 1.4.2 evaluates RDEPENDS when parsing Jun 17 11:58:56 zecke: start with the short one ;) Jun 17 11:59:18 tmbinc_: and some kernel RDEPENDS use bb.read_file... Jun 17 11:59:32 tmbinc_: which throws an exception, easy fix is to update parts of base.bbclass Jun 17 11:59:44 or just ignore them Jun 17 11:59:59 but it should re-evaluate them on the right moment again, shouldn't it? Jun 17 12:00:30 would this be fixed with recent metadata? Jun 17 12:00:40 yes, yes Jun 17 12:01:29 tmbinc_: with 'recent' meta data (.dev) we evaluate RDEPENDS, this makes the *-image.bb classes more easy to write and maintain Jun 17 12:02:53 hm ok. did anyone else had problems with propagating recently? there is one changeset (a larger merge) until everything works. when i try to merge that one in, monotone crashes. as monotone 0.26 is supposed to fix that, i don't think that they will ever fix 0.25. Jun 17 12:04:06 :( Jun 17 12:04:33 tmbinc_: I have send the announcement of the monotone migration today Jun 17 12:04:47 oh Jun 17 12:04:47 tmbinc_: this means by next month we will be on monotone 0.26 Jun 17 12:04:52 ok Jun 17 12:05:05 i'll keep the april metadata then until we have migrated Jun 17 12:05:12 i can migrate my local changes too, right? Jun 17 12:05:15 tmbinc_: most time is spend on announcing (3 weeks) Jun 17 12:05:21 tmbinc_: yes Jun 17 12:10:54 zecke: email on it's way... Jun 17 12:13:42 okay, cya later :) Jun 17 12:14:35 zecke, cu Jun 17 12:20:09 lrg: wtf :) Jun 17 12:22:55 lrg: looks totally... well, I think I have time on monday to look into it :} Jun 17 12:23:01 or even tomorrow Jun 17 13:15:40 anyone already used bittest ? I'd like to know if we can check for SRC_URI without fetching files Jun 17 13:18:35 ls Jun 17 13:19:45 <`pwgen`> hello Jun 17 13:20:10 <`pwgen`> anyone interested in running u-boot wit oe ? Jun 17 13:20:34 üwgen? Jun 17 13:20:43 pwgen you know what oe is? Jun 17 13:20:53 <`pwgen`> i have a nice configuration for oe .. Jun 17 13:21:26 <`pwgen`> u-boot with rescue and 12394 blocks for root Jun 17 13:21:29 use the bugtracker and submit pachtes there Jun 17 13:22:05 and oe is only a building system no distribution Jun 17 13:22:56 <`pwgen`> i think oe is the distribution/buildsystem for building software running on embedded device like zaurus or ipaq or sometinge else Jun 17 13:23:30 buildingsystem Jun 17 13:23:49 distributions are openzaurus,opensimpad,angstroem Jun 17 13:24:04 and serval others Jun 17 13:24:34 <`pwgen`> ok i had to build patches and submit via bugtracker ... Jun 17 13:59:23 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rf7ac7bd5... 10/conf/machine/simpad.conf: simpad.conf: fix typo Jun 17 14:34:05 morning Jun 17 14:34:09 hi hrw Jun 17 14:34:13 ello Jun 17 14:35:19 Yay! Monotone 0.26 migration. Jun 17 14:38:42 if monotone 0.27 would be released, it would rock even more Jun 17 14:45:39 * chouimat is back. Jun 17 14:45:50 morning Jun 17 14:46:01 zecke: a month for the migration? Jun 17 14:46:39 chouimat: three weeks announcements Jun 17 14:47:03 zecke: ok Jun 17 14:47:24 chouimat: We want people to push their changes Jun 17 14:47:32 chouimat: or to minimize the amount of local changes Jun 17 14:48:03 zecke: i see ...ok now time to make some coffee Jun 17 14:57:08 ~seen koen Jun 17 14:57:13 koen was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 10d 19h 59m 14s ago, saying: 'no idea'. Jun 17 15:01:00 hrw: I think he will be away 10 more days Jun 17 15:01:14 ok Jun 17 15:01:50 zecke: do you plan something on ewi in near time? Jun 17 15:02:05 zecke: I want to rebuild whole feed for OZ 3.5.4.1 (with rm_work) Jun 17 15:03:46 hrw: no, feel free to tilt it Jun 17 15:06:56 ok Jun 17 15:19:27 guys, did anybody create a 2.6.x image for the H55xx? Jun 17 15:19:46 i'm still awaiting for my SD card to come back to life =( Jun 17 15:19:51 *waitin Jun 17 15:26:09 hrw: thanks for your comments re. my site. picture is now linked to / and i have a blog link for the complete one :) Jun 17 15:27:13 mickey|fifa2006: use rewrite to get http://www.vanille-media.de/site/blog/ urls Jun 17 15:27:30 mickey|fifa2006: I would even make http://www.vanille-media.de/ + http://www.vanille-media.de/blog/ Jun 17 15:28:02 *nod* some more construction things to do Jun 17 15:28:05 mickey|fifa2006: and s/Complete Blog/Blog/ on lefr menu Jun 17 15:28:17 or 'My Blog' Jun 17 15:28:22 My Blog sounds good. Jun 17 15:28:25 * mickey|fifa2006 changes Jun 17 15:29:08 hrw: are there any _must have_ plugins for wordpress? Jun 17 15:29:25 mickey|fifa2006: akismet or "spam karma 2" for spam Jun 17 15:30:05 mickey|fifa2006: I would even move 'Blog' column under 'Contents' to have 2 columns Jun 17 15:30:22 hrw: i would as well, but that involves css magic Jun 17 15:30:26 i have never done any css :D Jun 17 15:31:34 mickey|fifa2006: "OpenID for Wordpress", "Spam Karma 2", "Google Sitemaps", "Ultimate Tag Warrior", WP-Googlestats", "WP-ContactForm", "WP-ShortStat", "Admin Drop Down Menu", "Click Counter" are part of my pluginsset Jun 17 15:31:44 hrw: thanks. /me notes Jun 17 15:31:55 mickey|fifa2006: thats not css even - move parts of template Jun 17 15:31:56 mickey|fifa2006 sounds british Jun 17 15:32:41 mickey|fifa2006: move "col2" content inside "col1" for example Jun 17 15:33:05 mickey|fifa2006: get theme with 'sidebar widgets' support - its much easier to manage sidebar then Jun 17 15:33:24 hrw: i have searched months to find that theme :) Jun 17 15:33:37 perhaps it already supports widgets... Jun 17 15:33:58 mickey|fifa2006: months?? themes.wordpress.org does not work? :D Jun 17 15:34:07 it does Jun 17 15:34:11 but i couldn't decide Jun 17 15:34:14 heh Jun 17 15:34:26 browsed through hundreds Jun 17 15:34:32 ;) Jun 17 15:35:29 * mickey|fifa2006 donates a couple of bucks to the theme author Jun 17 15:36:35 * hrw dont - paypal stinks Jun 17 15:37:38 It’s a simple, light, and customizable theme for WordPress 2.0+. Features include: Widgets friendly, ready to use Jun 17 15:37:42 what can i do with widgets? Jun 17 15:38:15 mickey|fifa2006: easily move parts of sidebar (drag and drop) Jun 17 15:38:24 there are many sidebar widgets plugins Jun 17 15:38:48 hmm cool Jun 17 15:38:54 although i don't want to overcrowd the site Jun 17 15:39:01 needs a professional touch to remain :D Jun 17 15:39:36 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/06/17/oz-3541-status-update/ Jun 17 15:40:08 excellent! Jun 17 15:40:19 i guess you will need a rest after that release, right? :) Jun 17 15:41:50 mickey|fifa2006: 3.5.4.2 for 2.4 powered will be Jun 17 15:42:31 anyone know how's poodle doing? Jun 17 15:42:34 kernel, that is Jun 17 15:42:57 mickey|fifa2006: mostly usable Jun 17 15:43:01 2.6? on hold Jun 17 15:43:07 CoreDump|home: what's missing? Jun 17 15:43:10 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/kernel-26-on-poodle-status-page/ Jun 17 15:43:50 looks perfect except mmc and sound Jun 17 15:44:21 mickey|fifa2006: blogger! Jun 17 15:44:23 sound for starters ;) And the kbd driver needs some TLC (no numlock) Jun 17 15:44:35 uhmm... how can i transfer files to my ipaq using the serial connection ? Jun 17 15:44:39 zecke: I'm since long. finally with a stock blog though :) Jun 17 15:44:51 do i have to run pppd ? Jun 17 15:45:30 CSMan: lszrz Jun 17 15:45:34 lol 0:1 ghana Jun 17 15:45:40 yeeeeeeeeeees Jun 17 15:45:41 GHANA Jun 17 15:45:48 =D Jun 17 15:45:53 =) Jun 17 15:45:58 mickey|fifa2006: any ideas for building whole feeds other then 'bitbake -k world'? Jun 17 15:46:29 hrw: i have lsz Jun 17 15:46:49 mickey|fifa2006: http://www.vanille.de/lehre/ Jun 17 15:46:57 mickey|fifa2006: you got a spelling error: it is leere Jun 17 15:46:59 hrw: i'd do some of the meta packages first to have a bit more control over the order of stuff landing in staging Jun 17 15:47:18 zecke: heh. that's Sabine's area Jun 17 15:47:20 hrw: i guess i need lszrz in the ipaq to receive, right ? Jun 17 15:47:31 CSMan: iirc yes Jun 17 15:47:55 mickey|fifa2006: interesting, I have not seen this site yet Jun 17 15:48:10 zecke: that's the site for her "Lehrauftrag an der FH Darmstadt" Jun 17 15:48:28 mickey|fifa2006: I didn't know that she had such a thing already Jun 17 15:49:02 zecke: she had. three times now. but still looking for a Prof. position. Jun 17 15:49:21 zecke: her script is a good read btw. http://www.vanille.de/lehre/skript.pdf Jun 17 15:49:25 some funny examples Jun 17 15:50:14 mickey|fifa2006: sdl.bbclass from .dev need some sdl games to be changed? Jun 17 15:50:47 hrw: i'm afraid so, yes. Jun 17 15:51:11 mickey|fifa2006: those changes are in .dev already? Jun 17 15:51:44 hrw: yes. i fixed sdl games when building. it's probably missing some still Jun 17 15:52:45 mickeyl not bad the script Jun 17 15:53:00 woglinde: thanks. i'll tell her Jun 17 15:54:24 mickeyl oh there is some mistake Jun 17 15:54:32 hi all Jun 17 15:54:41 the appendix is know as Literarturevrzeichnis Jun 17 15:54:54 page 80 and 81 Jun 17 15:55:16 woglinde: yeah right. i need to clean some things when she's updating it. i'm the LyX expert in the house, not she :) Jun 17 15:55:25 mickeyl and page 79 ist blank for whatever Jun 17 15:55:32 is Jun 17 15:55:59 hehe better learn latex directly Jun 17 15:56:21 * Necronom agrees with woglinde. Jun 17 15:58:01 no way. i have learned enough latex to be able to get all type setting done with LyX Jun 17 15:58:14 after all, we're using high level languages now, aren't we? Jun 17 15:58:23 * mickey|fifa2006 sees a debate forthcoming and leaves to watch the game Jun 17 15:58:25 l8er Jun 17 16:00:50 hehe Jun 17 16:01:00 mickey|fifa2006: and lyx is that high level language? Jun 17 16:01:32 Any of you guys have a Iyonix RiscPC? I think about buying one. Jun 17 16:02:34 But I just want to have some user response first. they arn't realy cheap. Jun 17 16:03:22 I don't have one Jun 17 16:03:30 I think they are not worth their money Jun 17 16:03:44 are they free? Jun 17 16:04:13 I think that for desktop only x86-64 now are worth cash (cheap and powerful enough) Jun 17 16:04:52 well just for building arm things it could be cool to have one. Jun 17 16:04:55 nah 64 arnt useful for the most part Jun 17 16:05:22 mr_nice: consider getting a NSlu2 then Jun 17 16:05:33 mr_nice: can run in Big Endian and Little Endian mode Jun 17 16:05:44 mr_nice: you can attach storage to it (e.g. swap) Jun 17 16:05:55 which reminds me, it sounds like MS axed openGL support in vista Jun 17 16:05:57 mr_nice: and with ~50-100Euro it is not expensive Jun 17 16:06:12 emte: lol, Direct3d is the only supported system? Jun 17 16:06:25 yeah, with an emu for opengl 1.4 Jun 17 16:06:29 I have to google Jun 17 16:06:30 * MASTER-Tim has quit ("Wer weis evtl is das leben ja ein integer wenn man negativ genug denkt wirds irgendwann positiv.") Jun 17 16:07:08 hi kergoth Jun 17 16:08:11 kergoth: lol, you understand this sentence? Jun 17 16:08:44 naw, someone translated it for me :) Jun 17 16:08:49 i was amused though, so thought i'd share it Jun 17 16:09:13 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r76d9df50... 10/packages/hostap/ (files/hostap_cs.modalias hostap-conf_1.0.bb): hostap-conf: add another prism2 card modalias Jun 17 16:09:17 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r72c9f3a7... 10/packages/openttd/openttd_0.4.0.bb: openttd: update to 0.4.0.1 from .dev Jun 17 16:09:21 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r28040521... 10/classes/sdl.bbclass: sdl.bbclass: version from .dev make generic + opie packages Jun 17 16:09:25 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd6abb5a7... 10/packages/rott/ (files/gcc4.patch files/rott.jpg rott_1.0.bb): rott: de-opie-ify Jun 17 16:09:29 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r74067a04... 10/packages/gemdropx/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gemdropx: de-opie-ify Jun 17 16:09:33 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r82a73ab8... 10/packages/freedroid/ (3 files in 2 dirs): freedroid: de-opie-ify Jun 17 16:09:37 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r52fabac0... 10/packages/vectoroids/vectoroids_1.1.0.bb: vectoroids: de-opie-ify Jun 17 16:09:41 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf02cb66f... 10/packages/abuse/abuse_0.7.0.bb: abuse: de-opie-ify Jun 17 16:09:45 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rc69321fa... 10/packages/aliens/aliens_1.0.0.bb: aliens: de-opie-ify Jun 17 16:09:49 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc67fcdd8... 10/packages/openttd/openttd_0.4.0.1.bb: openttd: added some bugfixes from .oz354x - #904 Jun 17 16:09:51 hrw has commited off the deep end again :) Jun 17 16:09:58 hi. Jun 17 16:10:06 with all those aliens and abuse Jun 17 16:11:11 ;D Jun 17 16:11:25 zecke: I don't understand it ... Jun 17 16:15:25 ooops Jun 17 16:15:48 mickey|fifa2006: hrw : I wanted to put this story into the moderation queue Jun 17 16:16:07 mickey|fifa2006: hrw : now it is posted, but it would be nice if you could proof read it :} Jun 17 16:16:17 and correct my fscking errors Jun 17 16:17:19 zecke: oe.org? Jun 17 16:17:38 yes Jun 17 16:17:55 ugly as hell Jun 17 16:18:10 yeah, sorry Jun 17 16:18:26 looks good on my braille display though Jun 17 16:18:40 ;D Jun 17 16:19:12 zecke: ok - I will take it to queue and edit Jun 17 16:19:14 unpublished it Jun 17 16:19:45 I should train Al to write technical documentation :} Jun 17 16:20:05 would be nice to move from 'written by nick' to 'written by name "nick" surname' Jun 17 16:20:43 later pals Jun 17 16:51:39 ibot: botmail to zecke: I rewritten whole story so it is more readable. Please check it and publish. Jun 17 17:11:43 ibot: botmail to mickey|fifa2006: I just recognized that you can't have read my message of this mornig *g. So here it is - After fixing my monotone I have tested your work on MACHINE_KERNEL_VERSION as promised. This is my configuration (http://pastebin.com/714536) and this is the resulting error (http://pastebin.com/714534). The monotone branch I have used (b1413be68019496f10dcfa8c854fd6644adecd93) Jun 17 17:12:11 thx to hrw showing me how that botmailthing is working ;) Jun 17 17:13:12 * CoreDump|home cheers for Ghana Jun 17 17:14:07 mr_nice: s/monotone branch/monotone revision Jun 17 17:14:26 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/17/openzaurus-3541-status/ Jun 17 17:16:43 hrw:? I did a cat revision in org.openembedded.dev/MT Jun 17 17:17:09 mr_nice: use 'monotone head' next time - its simpler Jun 17 17:17:19 mr_nice: branch is .dev Jun 17 17:19:33 hrw: what monotone head is donig? - I shuld lern not to type commands I don't know what they are doing *lol - now it is to late Jun 17 17:20:20 mr_nice: it show you head of working copy Jun 17 17:20:39 mr_nice: in most situations its same as MT/revision but not always Jun 17 17:21:24 hrw: well than I will do that cat thing in future the monotone head is doing a long term job Jun 17 17:22:54 hrw: a now it is complete : b1413be68019496f10dcfa8c854fd6644adecd93 cbrake@openembedded.org 2006-06-16T18:04:26 Jun 17 17:28:46 guys, where did the usbvnetr module go ? Jun 17 17:30:04 cu Jun 17 17:35:44 GHANAAAAA Jun 17 17:35:50 mr_nice: read it and commited a fix. please try again Jun 17 17:35:53 zecke: which story? Jun 17 17:36:29 mickey|fifa2006: ok Jun 17 17:37:10 hrw|gone: where do I find it? Jun 17 17:39:18 mickey|fifa2006: mtn 0.26 conversation Jun 17 17:39:35 zecke: ah. didn't get anything Jun 17 17:41:00 mickey|fifa2006: http://www.openembedded.org/announcement-of-scm-conversion-to-monotone-0.26 Jun 17 17:41:21 *nod* Jun 17 17:41:33 I miss a 'diff' button on this wiki... Jun 17 17:43:12 I cant fin any alsa packages in the dev branch, isent there any packeages for it ( no zecke i havnet deleted the :-) ) Jun 17 18:01:51 re Jun 17 18:02:00 re hrw Jun 17 18:02:09 zecke: I miss it too Jun 17 18:02:47 goxboxlive: alsa-lib, alsa-utils are available Jun 17 18:13:47 ~seen pigi Jun 17 18:14:04 pigi was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 18d 3h 54m 46s ago, saying: 'is there anyone that has successfully got asterisk working with eicon diva pci cards (passive cards ) ?'. Jun 17 18:16:40 JustinP: ping Jun 17 18:19:25 is there a common prefix in the X API?` Jun 17 18:20:05 zecke: do you like my version? Jun 17 18:20:07 X? Jun 17 18:20:10 * chouimat is away: boring stuff Jun 17 18:20:23 that's all? Xfoo ? Jun 17 18:20:40 hrw: lack of diff makes it harder to see what I did wrong... Jun 17 18:20:47 mickey|fifa2006: XOpenDisplay, XCloseDisplay Jun 17 18:20:58 mickey|fifa2006: XFlush() Jun 17 18:20:59 thanks. Jun 17 18:21:14 perhaps i should grep for #include X11/ Jun 17 18:21:28 * cbrake misses the recent changes on the wiki and table of contents feature Jun 17 18:21:32 zecke: save both and give to kdiff3 Jun 17 18:21:55 yes, or abuse pastebin.com Jun 17 18:22:17 it is published again Jun 17 18:22:23 is there an rss feed for the drupal wiki changes? Jun 17 18:26:13 hrw: this kdepimpi stuff is strange Jun 17 18:26:26 hrw: this *resource*.h includes qmutex.h always! Jun 17 18:27:00 #ifdef QT_THREAD_SUPPORT Jun 17 18:28:18 sounds like zautrix used thread support to decide whether he's building against qt2 or qt3 Jun 17 18:28:20 ~shoot zautrix Jun 17 18:28:22 * ibot shoots zautrix in the foot with a phase pistol! Jun 17 18:28:47 mickey|fifa2006: no - qte2 does not have thread enabled before Jun 17 18:37:06 I just got pobox (Japanese input) by AlexTe working! YEAH! GREAT! Jun 17 18:37:29 cool Jun 17 18:37:46 mickey|fifa2006: indeed. Jun 17 18:37:50 mickey|fifa2006: what do you think about adding /home/root/ to populate-volatiles? or other place - this will close #759 (no /home/root/ in OZ images) Jun 17 18:38:17 We need some more unicode and/or Japanese fonts. Any kind of magic in creating them or is it just about creating the bb file and not making any changes to the font itself (so as to make it smaller for example)? Jun 17 18:38:24 mickey|fifa2006: it seems to work - I will send you a ibot mail after the compiling is complete Jun 17 18:38:32 hrw: sounds ok to me Jun 17 18:39:06 Laibsch: use ttf font Jun 17 18:39:16 mickey|fifa2006: We have two input methods now. nunome (HRW) and pobox (keyboard). So we are basically all set. But there are more input methods in the pipeline I believe. Jun 17 18:39:27 hrw: OK. No changes necessary? Jun 17 18:39:37 Laibsch: no changes Jun 17 18:39:41 Might not even be necessary to package them at first, then. Jun 17 18:39:47 hrw: Cool! Jun 17 18:40:09 Laibsch: need to run update-qttfontdir Jun 17 18:40:12 I wonder if the Z can handle the 8MB msgothic.ttf Jun 17 18:40:17 so someone needs to correct and push the stuff from http://vbone.net/oz/bb/ into OE Jun 17 18:40:23 hrw: OK, thank you. Jun 17 18:40:39 mickey|fifa2006: AlexTe said he was going to do it soon. Jun 17 18:40:50 I sent him a couple of bugs over IRC today. Jun 17 18:40:51 good Jun 17 18:41:30 mickey|fifa2006: you also talked about correcting stuff. What were you referring to? Jun 17 18:41:42 nunome has wrong HOMEPAGE set Jun 17 18:41:52 OK Jun 17 18:42:00 Laibsch: misc things. PR shouldn't be first line Jun 17 18:42:51 I'll open a bug to track this stuff even before it is being pushed so as to make noone's input if forgotten. Jun 17 18:43:36 Laibsch: metabug 'CJKV for OPIE/GPE' + all related bugs as blockers of it Jun 17 18:43:56 Laibsch: nunome looks like it's hardcoded for single thread qte Jun 17 18:43:59 need to import palmtop Jun 17 18:44:02 and remove -DQWS Jun 17 18:44:05 as palmtop is doing that Jun 17 18:45:10 hrw: OK Jun 17 18:45:52 hrw: what is wrong about the HOMEPAGE? The auth stuff? It is the official homepage of upstream. Jun 17 18:48:23 bug 1094 it is for the metabug Jun 17 18:49:33 auth stuff Jun 17 18:53:08 Laibsch: add 842 and 843 as blockers for 1094 then Jun 17 18:57:23 hrw: Good idea. done Jun 17 19:02:45 bbl Jun 17 19:02:54 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r9351f11b... 10/packages/hostap/ (files/hostap_cs.conf hostap-conf_1.0.bb): hostap-conf: added Pretec card to pcmcia-cs config Jun 17 19:08:55 mickey|fifa2006: what do you mean PR should not be on the first line? AFAICT, that is not the case in AlexTe's bb files such as http://vbone.net/oz/bb/qpobox/qpobox_0.5.4.bb Jun 17 19:09:19 eb_4.2.2.bb Jun 17 19:09:31 kakasi Jun 17 19:09:35 OK, that is different stuff, not input method. Jun 17 19:09:40 what is a Zaurus SL-C3200 called? Jun 17 19:09:44 mickey|fifa2006: now that TT doesn't even have the resources to say "Community piss off" Jun 17 19:09:49 mickey|fifa2006: what should we do? Jun 17 19:10:00 And maybe it should wait for inclusion. Jun 17 19:10:05 zecke: burn all API documents and forget what you ever knew about Qt/E Jun 17 19:10:09 mickey|fifa2006: And maybe it should wait for inclusion. Jun 17 19:10:26 Laibsch: aren't these dependencies for the inputmethods? Jun 17 19:12:17 mickey|fifa2006: that is so sad... Jun 17 19:12:52 mickey|fifa2006: They are completely different Jun 17 19:13:16 mickey|fifa2006: They are studyaids, dictionary lookup tools, etc. Jun 17 19:13:25 Nice stuff, but unrelated. Jun 17 19:13:57 nunome for example has no deps (other than maybe a Japanese font). pobox just needs qpobox and poboxserver. Jun 17 19:13:59 That is all. Jun 17 19:15:29 zecke: yes, it is. an early Qtopia4 GPL release could've revived Qt/Embedded and Qtopia 3rd party powers. Delaying it for so long effectively will kill it :( Jun 17 19:15:34 * mickey|fifa2006 returns to the game Jun 17 19:16:50 mickey|fifa2006: now TT is going public, we could try to buy it Jun 17 19:17:00 woglinde: do you want to run a buy TT campaign with me? Jun 17 19:17:17 woglinde: now that you lost SUSE to Novell, we can try it with TT? Jun 17 19:17:26 zecke hehe Jun 17 19:17:55 zecke hm we have to convice the deutsche bank or so Jun 17 19:19:53 woglinde: http://www.physik.tu-cottbus.de/users/heinold/suse/ <- I love your page Jun 17 19:20:27 woglinde: and no an e.V. may not buy any shares (no speculative operations are allowed) Jun 17 19:20:39 hehe Jun 17 19:21:34 But a "Genossenschaft" kann do that, sort of the same as an e.V. otherwise. Jun 17 19:21:42 Who/what is TT? Jun 17 19:21:47 laibsch right Jun 17 19:21:50 trolltech Jun 17 19:21:51 hehe Jun 17 19:27:30 So does this mean Opie is doomed as well? Jun 17 19:28:18 hvontres: doomed? Jun 17 19:28:38 hvontres: Opie is meant to be Qtopia compatible Jun 17 19:28:50 hvontres: no available Qtopia, no future Opie Jun 17 19:29:08 sorry, I came in late and only caught the last part of the QT/E discussion :( Jun 17 19:29:20 yes. its doomed. please repent now Jun 17 19:29:35 lpotter: hey :) Jun 17 19:29:45 hi Jun 17 19:29:54 hi lpooter Jun 17 19:29:58 ups lpotter Jun 17 19:30:11 lpotter: did you find time to cook up a response? Jun 17 19:30:24 lpotter: and have you flashed the latest beta onto the n770? Jun 17 19:30:31 how much do you think would TT cost? Jun 17 19:30:39 mr_nice enough Jun 17 19:30:40 mr_nice: too much Jun 17 19:30:52 yes, i have flashed the new 770 image Jun 17 19:31:04 mr_nice: and I have not enough crappy old sandwhiches to exchange them with the stocks Jun 17 19:31:07 zecke: what is Zaurus SL-C3200 called? Jun 17 19:31:07 (pun on futurama) Jun 17 19:31:14 mr_nice: we only nee 51% :) Jun 17 19:31:18 Zero_Chaos: how should I know? Jun 17 19:31:20 ~C3200 Jun 17 19:31:45 zecke: sorry, I know you are knowledgeable, thought you might know Jun 17 19:31:51 3200 is called mongrel :) Jun 17 19:31:53 Zero_Chaos: terrier Jun 17 19:31:56 or mut Jun 17 19:32:00 ~terrier Jun 17 19:32:02 terrier is probably Sharp Zaurus SL-C3200, or a dog Jun 17 19:32:06 CoreDump|home: thanks Jun 17 19:32:08 zecke: thanks Jun 17 19:32:09 np Jun 17 19:32:18 ~poodle Jun 17 19:32:20 extra, extra, read all about it, poodle is sharp sl-b500/5600, or a dog Jun 17 19:32:27 rabid greyhound Jun 17 19:32:51 ~rabid greyhound Jun 17 19:33:05 ~spitz Jun 17 19:33:07 rumour has it, spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog Jun 17 19:33:28 spitz is C3000 or C1000, right? Jun 17 19:33:35 ~akita Jun 17 19:33:37 from memory, akita is the Sharp SL-C1000, or a dog Jun 17 19:33:41 right Jun 17 19:34:45 ~lpotter Jun 17 19:34:48 lpotter is that Qtopia Community Liaison guy that works for Trolltech. Jun 17 19:35:33 should that say ", or a dog" as well?? Jun 17 19:36:02 lol Jun 17 19:36:10 ROTFL Jun 17 19:36:28 ibot: lpotter is also a dog Jun 17 19:36:29 ggilbert: okay Jun 17 19:36:42 ~lpotter Jun 17 19:36:43 lpotter is that Qtopia Community Liaison guy that works for Trolltech. a dog Jun 17 19:36:51 ~CoreDump Jun 17 19:36:53 extra, extra, read all about it, coredump is the guy who maintains the hentges distribution @ http://www.hentges.net Jun 17 19:37:10 ibot: CoreDump is not a dog Jun 17 19:37:12 ...but coredump is already something else... Jun 17 19:37:17 ~forget zecke Jun 17 19:37:18 =) Jun 17 19:37:39 zecke: Awwww, no fun :) Jun 17 19:39:44 ~nickometer dog Jun 17 19:39:46 ~nickometer zecke Jun 17 19:39:46 'dog' is 0.000% lame, zecke Jun 17 19:39:48 'zecke' is 0.000% lame, zecke Jun 17 19:39:53 so wrong Jun 17 19:40:10 ~nickometer treke Jun 17 19:40:12 'treke' is 0.000% lame, zecke Jun 17 19:40:16 ~nickometer whatever Jun 17 19:40:18 'whatever' is 0.000% lame, zecke Jun 17 19:40:25 ~nickometer hvontres Jun 17 19:40:27 'hvontres' is 0.000% lame, hvontres Jun 17 19:40:35 ~nickometer Zero_Chaos Jun 17 19:40:37 'Zero_Chaos' is 0.000% lame, zero_chaos Jun 17 19:40:44 odd, I should be lamer than that Jun 17 19:40:55 Must be Busted Jun 17 19:41:51 lpotter: so what about the community for Qtopia? Is it of no use? why can't you say that? Jun 17 19:42:22 because if i did, it would be a ie, and i speak truths Jun 17 19:42:34 be a lie, that is Jun 17 19:47:08 grrrrr....trying to get OE setup on my Fedora 4 box and gcc-cross-initial-3.2.2-r3 failed with a seg fault Jun 17 19:47:11 insn-extract.c:2859: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault Jun 17 19:47:55 gcc-3.2? Jun 17 19:48:02 this is quite old Jun 17 19:48:55 [henry@Gonzo dev.build]$ gcc --version Jun 17 19:48:55 gcc (GCC) 4.0.2 20051125 (Red Hat 4.0.2-8) Jun 17 19:49:33 oopps, I meand gcc-cross-initial-3.4.4-r3, from the org.openembedded.oz354x branch Jun 17 19:50:14 mickey|fifa2006: pong Jun 17 19:51:12 ~hvontres Jun 17 19:51:55 any ideas what I would need to fix to get OE happy again? Jun 17 19:53:51 hvontres: I don't know if it help, but you could run a memory check. Jun 17 20:02:12 lpotter: hmm, Qtopia is good enough to be sold, but not good enough for the community? Jun 17 20:03:13 lpotter: http://doc.trolltech.com/qtopia4.1/images/phonepda.png <- this is how Qtopia4 looks? ;) Jun 17 20:03:26 well, configured with -edition pda doesnt exactly compile or run well right now Jun 17 20:04:25 don't you have automatic builds that should have showed this error more early Jun 17 20:05:30 How can I repackage a font with OE? I guess I do not need to compile anything. I'd know how to create an ipk out of http://downloads.sourceforge.jp/zaurus-ja/778/unismall_1.0.0_arm.ipk but how do I create a bb file for it? Jun 17 20:06:05 unismall is IMHO much better than the current unifont we have. Not least because it is actually readable. Jun 17 20:06:11 do_install and FILES Jun 17 20:06:26 OK, I'll have a look. Jun 17 20:06:33 do_install() to install the file, FILES for saying what goes into the package Jun 17 20:30:14 he koem Jun 17 20:30:17 koen Jun 17 20:30:20 jet lag Jun 17 20:31:03 hey woglinde Jun 17 20:31:15 woglinde: wifi on the balcony at the hotel Jun 17 20:31:43 koen hehe okay Jun 17 20:31:52 hey koen Jun 17 20:31:58 koen how is it ar barbados? Jun 17 20:31:58 had a good holiday ? Jun 17 20:32:05 hav Jun 17 20:32:29 yep Jun 17 20:32:36 nice weather, good food, etc Jun 17 20:32:44 good Jun 17 20:33:04 * eFfeM is going to indian food next week Jun 17 20:33:27 zecke owe me nachos Jun 17 20:33:32 why? Jun 17 20:33:47 zecke yesterday Jun 17 20:34:37 so the question should be when not why Jun 17 20:34:42 *g* Jun 17 20:34:47 woglinde: "Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me." Jun 17 20:34:48 out Jun 17 20:35:05 woglinde: If that makes any sense to you, I owe you Nachos Jun 17 20:35:24 I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Jun 17 20:35:50 , I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Jun 17 20:36:03 it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests. Jun 17 20:36:09 nothing more to say Jun 17 20:36:20 OK, here it is for all you screenshot lovers and fans of the Japanese language: http://leipzig.leggewie.org/?cat=1 Jun 17 20:36:45 Japanese on OZ! Jun 17 20:37:00 me me me !!!! Jun 17 20:37:10 awesome :) Jun 17 20:37:25 ;-) Jun 17 20:37:43 not any clue about that language though Jun 17 20:38:18 woglinde: want a new laptop? http://leipzig.leggewie.org/?cat=3 Jun 17 20:38:29 zecke yeah saw the item Jun 17 20:38:32 gift Jun 17 20:38:57 if i'm correct first 3 kanji mean to 'japanere language' Jun 17 20:39:17 of the summary field :) Jun 17 20:40:04 yes gremlin[it], well done. Jun 17 20:40:21 I made a note that I should study Japanese (harder) Jun 17 20:41:03 Laibsch me too ... i should do !!! Jun 17 20:51:54 gremlin[it]: You are not a dev at http://gakusei.sf.net yet, are you? Do you want to contribute? Jun 17 20:52:30 in which way ? traslation ? Jun 17 20:54:12 Any way you feel like. Jun 17 20:54:14 Laibsch interesting !!! i'll take a look :) Jun 17 20:55:06 gremlin[it]: Could be dev type work, could be evangelizing, could be testing, could be conceptual work. Jun 17 22:20:00 nite Jun 17 22:41:29 I compiled some kernel module, but I can t insmod it, it tell me invalide module format, looking to dmesg, I see this line Jun 17 22:41:33 version magic '2.6.16 preempt ARMv5 gcc-4.0' should be '2.6.16 preempt ARMv5 gcc-3.4 Jun 17 22:41:57 so I tried to recompile virtual/kernel and to re install it, but it didn t worked, any ideas ? Jun 17 22:42:20 you used the warong compiler for the kernel modules Jun 17 22:42:41 sound like. Jun 17 22:42:50 that why I re compiled virtual/kernel Jun 17 22:43:01 you used gcc-4.0 for the modules but the kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4 Jun 17 22:43:15 so it were easier to compile the modules with gcc-3.4 Jun 17 22:43:42 instead of compiling the whole kernel with gcc-4.0 which in your case failed Jun 17 22:44:15 I'm not very good with oe yet, I didn t found how to change compiler. Jun 17 22:44:25 my oe's one is 4.0 . Jun 17 22:44:37 yeah for all but kernel Jun 17 22:45:11 for some architecure gcc-4 dont compile the kernel Jun 17 22:45:17 sound like I read something about this. but it's not only for 2.4 kernel ? Jun 17 22:45:26 hm Jun 17 22:45:38 than you have to fix your local.conf Jun 17 22:45:58 what changes should I do ? Jun 17 22:48:35 hm can you provide your local.conf? Jun 17 22:48:40 ~pastebin Jun 17 22:48:53 somebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com, or http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ Jun 17 22:49:25 sure Jun 17 22:51:30 http://pastebin.com/715616 Jun 17 22:52:28 hm okay you are on the oz branch Jun 17 22:52:41 yep. Jun 17 22:52:51 sorry dont have that here Jun 17 22:53:22 oh. thanks for the try at least. Jun 17 22:53:46 but do as I told rebuilt the kernel with gcc-3.4 again and the modules too Jun 17 22:54:01 maybee hrw must fix something Jun 17 22:54:01 I don't thing I have it installed. Jun 17 22:54:09 ^thing^think Jun 17 22:54:29 the ony gcc I found in my oe is a 4.0 one. Jun 17 22:55:08 no there must be some other for the kernel Jun 17 22:55:16 or you forget to clean something Jun 17 22:55:37 I'm checking again Jun 17 22:55:44 or tell me whats the problem ist that gcc-4.0 cant compile the kernel Jun 17 22:56:28 oh sound like you are right. Jun 17 22:56:56 hardcore stuff # tmp/cross/libexec/gcc/arm-linux/3.4.4/cc1 --version Jun 17 22:56:56 GNU C version 3.4.4 (arm-linux) Jun 17 22:57:34 ok now I need to tell #oe, to use the same gcc for my bb file. Jun 17 22:57:49 yes Jun 17 23:07:04 do you know how I can do this ? sound like it's in local.conf. Jun 17 23:07:21 hm Jun 17 23:07:28 sorry Jun 17 23:07:43 np. Jun 17 23:07:49 maybee look in an other .bb which compiles kernel-modules Jun 17 23:07:58 like orinoco Jun 17 23:08:04 that what I did, but there is nothing about gcc into. Jun 17 23:08:13 I checked orinoco-module and hostap-module Jun 17 23:08:38 hm than I have no clue Jun 17 23:16:37 nite Jun 17 23:17:55 nite wog. Jun 17 23:17:59 err too late Jun 18 02:22:18 Hi everyone Jun 18 02:22:29 Good news: I'm probably getting next weekend off! Jun 18 02:22:51 Which means I can start contributing to OpenEmbedded Jun 18 02:25:20 Is anyone alive in here? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jun 18 02:59:58 2006