**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jun 27 02:59:57 2006 Jun 27 06:33:44 moin Jun 27 07:12:41 good morning all Jun 27 07:13:03 <_law_> hi koen Jun 27 07:15:39 hi guys, is there a known problem with the compile of qemu-native? the do_patch stage fails on mouse_fix-r0.patch Jun 27 07:16:13 in org.oe.dev that is Jun 27 07:17:45 hi all Jun 27 07:19:12 good morning! Jun 27 07:19:56 ArjanS: now it is known? Do you build the svn version? Jun 27 07:20:26 zecke: according to bitbake, the version is qemu-native-0.8.0+cvs20060627-r1 Jun 27 07:20:40 so yes, it's the dev version Jun 27 07:20:52 Hi koen, I'd like to mirror openzaurus and CoreDump said I should ask you about it. Jun 27 07:23:04 ArjanS: so then either 'fixate' the date of qemu-native (e.g. SRCDATE_qemu-native = "moo" ) Jun 27 07:23:17 ArjanS: or file a bug report, or see why the patch does not apply Jun 27 07:27:59 Hi I built the gpe-image from openembedded and now when I log into gpe it crashes. It says it is looking for libxpcom.so and libgkgfx.so which I do not have. When I asked others on #openzaurus they said they also did not have those libraries, so I wanted to check and see if perhaps my toolchain is set up wrong? Jun 27 07:28:35 lindenle: why should a base gpe image need Mozilla? Jun 27 07:28:47 No idea... Jun 27 07:28:48 lindenle: we are talking about gpe-dm and matchbox? Jun 27 07:29:04 bitbake gpe-image from org.embedded.oz354x Jun 27 07:29:09 was all i did Jun 27 07:29:15 lindenle: well use 'ldd' on your system to find out who needs mozilla Jun 27 07:29:38 on host or zaurus Jun 27 07:29:50 will need to install it on zaurus Jun 27 07:29:51 petn-randall: ask hrw, I only provide one mirror Jun 27 07:29:51 where ever you can install a working ldd Jun 27 07:30:19 what package provides ldd in oz? Jun 27 07:31:46 dunno Jun 27 07:32:15 morning Jun 27 07:32:21 hey XorA Jun 27 07:32:23 <_law_> hi XorA Jun 27 07:34:31 'ldd foo' = 'LD_TRACE_LOADED_OBJECTS=1 foo' Jun 27 07:35:17 it is not a very complicated program. Jun 27 07:35:34 njs: thx Jun 27 07:36:37 njs:not woring on zaurus Jun 27 07:36:48 oh wait yes it is Jun 27 07:38:48 lindenle: so you know which application is not working? Jun 27 07:38:56 looking for it now Jun 27 07:39:00 will know soon Jun 27 07:44:39 ok it looks like the following are linked with libxpcom.so on my gpe Jun 27 07:45:26 /usr/bin/gaim Jun 27 07:45:42 /usr/bin/gpe-timesheet Jun 27 07:45:56 /usr/bin/gpe-sketchbook Jun 27 07:46:14 /usr/bin/teleport Jun 27 07:46:24 /usr/bin/gpe-aerial Jun 27 07:46:36 /usr/bin/mb-applet-menu-launcher Jun 27 07:46:54 /usr/bin/mb-applet-wireless Jun 27 07:47:05 /usr/bin/gpe-bluetooth Jun 27 07:47:15 /usr/bin/gpe-todo Jun 27 07:47:18 etc etc. Jun 27 07:47:29 so ummm, is there something wrong with my build chain? Jun 27 07:48:45 hello? Jun 27 07:51:45 It looks like it is only the mb and gpe stuff. Can I check somewhere in makefiles to figure out why it is doing this? Jun 27 07:54:18 hrw|gone: I'm sitting before ewi546 right now Jun 27 07:54:36 koen|uni: woo woo, how bad is the damage? Jun 27 07:55:53 it seems the kernelmodule for the NIC is gone Jun 27 07:59:38 pff, NICs are totally overrated. Jun 27 08:00:12 didn't I hear that they rewrote the kernel semaphore API again? surely it should be usable by now. Jun 27 08:02:46 * koen|uni pulls a psu out the machine Jun 27 08:02:51 and it keeps running :) Jun 27 08:02:59 zecke: So any idea what I did wrong? Jun 27 08:10:38 hello Jun 27 08:12:13 I've just downloaded oe.db.bz2 and monotone says org.openembedded has multiple heads Jun 27 08:12:24 what should I do? Jun 27 08:12:40 monotone pull Jun 27 08:12:45 and read the monotone docs Jun 27 08:12:58 ok Jun 27 08:13:44 hi guys. One qustion. I am trying to buiild 'gomunicator' but it wouldnt build. Actually it wouldnt start to build. I know it is a gomunicator_cvs.bb file there. What shall i do to let it build? Is there a way to let OE build from cvs instead? Jun 27 08:14:19 try finding out why OE doesn't want it to build first Jun 27 08:14:33 fix the problem, not the symptons Jun 27 08:14:39 fijam: "just pick one" -- they're both real commits :-) Jun 27 08:14:51 njs: cherrypick one? Jun 27 08:15:13 :) Jun 27 08:15:23 koen|uni: message received :-P Jun 27 08:15:47 njs: :) Jun 27 08:19:47 koen: It says, 'no buildable providers for gomunicator'. Jun 27 08:23:41 still the same. Wiki says: you need to wait for one of the core devs to merge those heads Jun 27 08:24:27 How long may it take? Jun 27 08:27:05 goxboxlive: and what *else* does bitbake say? Jun 27 08:29:41 fijam: you can just type monotone merge, if its a simple merge monotone will do it for you Jun 27 08:30:14 njs: is monotone 0.27 ctrl-c safe? Jun 27 08:30:32 njs: 0.25 forgets all revs written to db if you ctrl-c it Jun 27 08:31:56 <_law_> goxboxlive, bitbake -b /pathtobb/blabla.bb Jun 27 08:32:21 _law_: I know what the problem is Jun 27 08:32:38 <_law_> koen|uni, ? Jun 27 08:32:39 _law_: and bitbake explains that in the 3 lines above the "no provider" message Jun 27 08:33:15 the RDEPENDS = "alsa-lib" needs to be removed Jun 27 08:33:26 <_law_> koen|uni, right Jun 27 08:34:23 ok, ewi's fixed Jun 27 08:34:26 koen: That's right that is also the message i get form bitbake. Jun 27 08:34:37 goxboxlive: why didn't you say so? Jun 27 08:35:02 10:44 koen|uni: goxboxlive: and what *else* does bitbake say? Jun 27 08:35:12 anyway, need to move the machine back to the server room Jun 27 08:35:15 later all Jun 27 08:35:57 koen: Because i am also working :-) Jun 27 08:36:19 nothing more. Jun 27 08:36:30 I have tosa and poodle now Jun 27 08:36:49 tosa is awesome but huuuge Jun 27 08:37:07 hello ! Jun 27 08:37:23 what's so good in tosa ? Jun 27 08:38:00 magnet: 4" vga screen - best of Zaurus screens Jun 27 08:38:33 oh I was reading some specs, let's check for pics Jun 27 08:38:34 :) Jun 27 08:43:43 heh this screen is quite nice . Jun 27 08:44:30 yuhu ewi is back! Jun 27 08:44:33 ~hail koen Jun 27 08:44:38 * ibot bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 27 08:48:50 ~hail koen Jun 27 08:48:53 * ibot bows down to koen and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 27 08:49:41 hrw|work: I also enabled the 64bit kernel again to get better IO, so 'linux32' might be needed again Jun 27 08:50:25 koen: will try to remember Jun 27 08:50:32 * hrw|work watch movie about WAI - afk Jun 27 08:54:59 good morning folks Jun 27 08:56:35 hey chris144 Jun 27 08:56:44 hi koen Jun 27 08:59:12 koen: FYI, I've re-enabled Tinderclient on the nslu2-linux autobuilder. Jun 27 08:59:24 rwhitby: I saw the mail Jun 27 09:00:29 rwhitby: I just fixed the box running tinderserver Jun 27 09:01:15 I wonder if zecke fixed the client .bb so that it doesn't barf and stop your autobuild if it can't contact the tinderserver ... Jun 27 09:09:11 koen: you are not subscribed to oz-devel - right? Jun 27 09:09:25 hrw|work: only via gmane nntp Jun 27 09:09:35 koen: can you join #openzaurus? Jun 27 09:20:12 mornign Jun 27 09:20:53 CoreDump|home: did you check why that change in base.bbclass was made in the first place? Jun 27 09:21:32 didn't ring a bell. Looked like commited by accident Jun 27 09:22:05 I had one changeset which has some bugs in it Jun 27 09:22:20 reverted most of it - probably missed that one Jun 27 09:22:26 hrw|work: =) Jun 27 09:22:30 koen: thx for infos Jun 27 09:22:57 god Jun 27 09:23:02 stupid kde apps Jun 27 09:23:16 ~lart kdiff3 for making no sense Jun 27 09:23:16 * ibot blasts kdiff3 with a huge firehose then strangles kdiff3 with it for making no sense Jun 27 09:23:37 meld is intuive, for kdiff3 I need a map + gps Jun 27 09:33:39 * pH5 likes meld Jun 27 09:33:48 just needs a bit much cpu power sometimes Jun 27 09:36:50 koen: can you give more details on "ctrl-c safe"? do you mean on pulls/syncs? Jun 27 09:36:57 njs: pull Jun 27 09:37:19 if I ctrl-c it by accident after it was pulling for a day I can start over Jun 27 09:37:23 nod. by coincidence, yes :-) Jun 27 09:37:39 it commits every n packets or m bytes, where n and m are some hard-coded constants somewhere Jun 27 09:37:41 njs: I would have expected it to keep the revs monotone claims to have written to the db Jun 27 09:38:31 nod. it is consistent -- if you interrupt an operation, you want it left in a clean and consistent state -- but rather annoying in this case :-) Jun 27 09:40:07 I would appreciate if monotone said "you know, I said I wrote them to the db, but I actually didn't" Jun 27 09:41:19 or if you made the ticker say "revs that may be written" instead of "revs written" Jun 27 09:43:08 one of the effects of the netsync cleanup in the 0.26 era was to make sure that we don't say "successful exchange" until everything is flushed to disk on both sides, and we checkpoint as we go so things are more resumeable. Jun 27 09:43:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r57049c96... 10/packages/gomunicator/gomunicator_cvs.bb: gomunicator: removed RDEPENDS Jun 27 09:44:01 we didn't talk about it as much as the other cleanups around 0.26, because these are sort of finicky details, but yeah, they got fixed :-) Jun 27 09:44:45 so in 0.27 "revs written" == "revs committed"? Jun 27 09:44:49 it still isn't true that every ticker printed is something written to disk; we don't want to write too often or it becomes the bottleneck, need to amortize. Jun 27 09:45:20 I guess we could do some gymnastics to delay that counter so it only credited when we checkpointed... I'm not sure it's worth the effort. Jun 27 09:45:46 I'd argue monotone loses data Jun 27 10:01:58 zecke:hi, I know you are learnig, but if you find some sparetime please ping me. i have a question about how to test kernels with bootldr Jun 27 10:03:50 mr_nice_slacker: hey Jun 27 10:03:56 mr_nice_slacker: load the kernel into ram Jun 27 10:04:02 jump to that address :) Jun 27 10:04:22 zecke: :) Jun 27 10:04:24 mr_nice_slacker: but, trust me: there is nothing to test :) Jun 27 10:04:54 when the kernel was almost done no one care to test, this version is neither done nor need testers Jun 27 10:04:57 (ATM) Jun 27 10:06:10 zecke: I will try to boot it now thx Jun 27 10:06:36 ~lart people who don't bump PR Jun 27 10:06:36 * ibot drops a truckload of VAXen on people who don't bump PR Jun 27 10:06:45 ~lart monotone's 0.25 merger Jun 27 10:06:45 * ibot cats /dev/urandom into monotone's 0.25 merger's ear Jun 27 10:06:52 ~hail OSX FileMerge Jun 27 10:07:01 * ibot bows down to OSX FileMerge and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Jun 27 10:07:46 koen: saying "lose data" makes it sound like you would not be satisfied if we just tweaked the counter to run more jerkily? Jun 27 10:08:29 njs: if my console says "revs written: 60", I expect those to be there when I ctrl-c Jun 27 10:08:40 s/when/after/ Jun 27 10:08:55 so making the counter more jerkily would be great Jun 27 10:09:30 jerkily = represent revs that survive ctrl-c Jun 27 10:10:28 koen: sent Jun 27 10:11:36 does tosa was sold with usb host cable or without? Jun 27 10:11:58 iirc without Jun 27 10:12:09 judging from the zillions of forums posts Jun 27 10:12:09 koen: well, we'll think about. that might make some (currently speculative) optimizations impossible, and there's a balance between slowing down all pulls and giving slightly more exact information in cases where the pull is interrupted. Jun 27 10:14:03 "The SL-6000 has only a mini-A USB port, so you'll need to find that fairly rare cable, or get the USB Quick Connect cable kit made by GoldX Products" Jun 27 10:14:12 so I will have to dig.. Jun 27 10:14:42 hrw|work: there's an outfit in the US selling them.. Jun 27 10:15:15 fscking US.. Jun 27 10:15:53 serialio, iirc Jun 27 10:16:09 Heh, cost me a fortune to get mine Jun 27 10:16:14 hrw|work: this one? (http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=17NsIO4awQARIAAEPE1Lcb8230d930c06a75a0330c724c90a990c;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=4;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE=C6992;WG=0;SUCHE=mini%20a%20usb;ARTIKEL=AK%20673;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=667;PROVID=0;TITEL=0;CASE=ignore;CONNECT=AND;WHOLE_WORD_SEARCH=0;SORT_SEARCH=standard) Jun 27 10:16:25 9 usd cable.. 20usd for shipping to au Jun 27 10:17:32 morning all Jun 27 10:17:43 mr_nice_slacker: that site is too hard to navigate Jun 27 10:17:45 hi dirk Jun 27 10:17:46 hey Dirk Jun 27 10:17:55 do13_: do you know where to buy tosa usbhost cable? Jun 27 10:18:18 hey koen, Marcin Jun 27 10:18:30 later guys Jun 27 10:18:45 zecke:cya Jun 27 10:18:45 trisoft want 10 eur Jun 27 10:19:08 ah Jun 27 10:19:15 org.oe.dev should be merged now Jun 27 10:19:30 mr_nice_slacker: time wise, next month looks promising and OE and SIMpad are high on my "Todo"-list Jun 27 10:19:34 hrw|work: Can't remember Jun 27 10:19:35 hrw|work:thats true but is the cable on the picture(http://www.reichelt.de/bilder/web/C120/AK673.jpg) right? Jun 27 10:19:51 zecke:glad to here :) Jun 27 10:20:27 mr_nice_slacker: nope Jun 27 10:20:35 mr_nice_slacker: http://trisoft.de/pics/ZHost.JPG Jun 27 10:22:09 hrw|work:mom i will try to find it Jun 27 10:23:39 hrw|work: http://www.lindy.com/de/catalog/07/02/02b/index.php but only type B Jun 27 10:24:08 hrw|work: you received the tosa? Jun 27 10:24:17 yes Jun 27 10:24:25 cool Jun 27 10:24:27 do13_: awesome screen Jun 27 10:25:04 :) Jun 27 10:26:12 hrw|work: 640x480 3.7"? Jun 27 10:27:22 NAbyss: Display: 480 x 640 dots, 4", 65,536-color Jun 27 10:27:43 NAbyss: people say that it is better then in clamshells Jun 27 10:28:06 hrw|work: Really? Whoa.. I'm quite impressed by the borzoi's display.. but even better.. Jun 27 10:29:35 NAbyss: it's also transflective Jun 27 10:29:52 clamshell screens are non-reflective Jun 27 10:30:10 koen: do you know how it compares to the hx4700 one? Jun 27 10:30:32 pH5: it's slightly better in the sunlight due to being transflective Jun 27 10:30:39 Ahh Jun 27 10:31:13 koen: hx4700 has a transflective display, too. but the vertical viewing angle is a problem (I see the backlight when I look at it from above) Jun 27 10:33:22 hrw|work:to get things clear you need a male mini a to a female a connector? Jun 27 10:33:34 pH5: aha, compared to the h2200 the transflectiveness of the hx sucks Jun 27 10:34:29 mr_nice_slacker: I will contact trisoft to get cable rather Jun 27 10:34:58 koen: I don't have a device to compare against, but I believe that without hesitation :) Jun 27 10:35:05 then you can combine this one (http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=17NsIO4awQARIAAEPE1Lcb8230d930c06a75a0330c724c90a990c;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=2;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE=C6992;GRUPPEA=C6992;WG=0;SUCHE=mini%20a%20usb;ARTIKEL=AK%20673;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=672;PROVID=0;TITEL=0) with that one (http://www.reichelt.de/inhalt.html?SID=17NsIO4awQARIAAEPE1Lcb8230d930c06a75a0330c724c90a990c;ACTION=3;LASTACTION=2;SORT=artikel.artnr;GRUPPE= Jun 27 10:35:05 C6991;GRUPPEA=C6992;WG=0;SUCHE=mini%20a%20usb;ARTIKEL=USB%20ABU-ABU;START=0;END=16;STATIC=0;FC=673;PROVID=0;TITEL=0) cost 1.60? Jun 27 10:35:15 mr_nice_slacker: tinyurl? Jun 27 10:35:26 koen: hehe Jun 27 10:35:44 koen: the session management of the site is shit but the service is great Jun 27 10:37:07 hrw|work:the first is a mini a male to a male cable and the second is a a female to a female connector Jun 27 10:38:42 mr_nice_slacker: use tinyurl to give links Jun 27 10:38:44 ~tinyurl Jun 27 10:38:50 mr_nice_slacker: AK 673 is Mini- USB 4polig, USB host needs 5 pins Jun 27 10:39:39 do13_:ah, ok then the cable is useless Jun 27 10:39:47 :( Jun 27 10:39:58 cheap but useless :) Jun 27 10:40:26 hrw|work: do you want to buy the trisoft one :) Jun 27 10:40:46 do13_: I'm writing to them Jun 27 10:41:01 so... is org.oe.dev merged? Jun 27 10:41:03 zecke: does OE 1st tosa has usbhost cable? Jun 27 10:41:24 hrw|work: I think so Jun 27 10:42:29 fijam: it should be Jun 27 10:42:38 do13_:could you check this one it is 5 pol type a male (http://tinyurl.com/ohjnu) Jun 27 10:43:13 koen, thanks Jun 27 10:44:11 do13_: its even ceaper ;) Jun 27 10:44:22 mr_nice_slacker: they don't mention OTG Jun 27 10:44:31 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfbcb809f... 10/packages/slugimage/ (slugimage-native.bb slugimage.bb): dropped slugimage Jun 27 10:44:35 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r68c0ce66... 10/packages/wrt/ (11 files in 4 dirs): removed (Open)WRT stuff Jun 27 10:44:39 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ra6d86ff2... 10/packages/nylon/ (nylon-scripts_cvs.bb nylon-statistics.bb yamonenv.bb): dropped recipes from nylon distro Jun 27 10:44:41 do13_: OTG? Jun 27 10:44:44 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf7b5d6dc... 10/packages/gcc/ (95 files in 7 dirs): removed all gcc versions other then 3.4.4 used by OZ Jun 27 10:44:56 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * re187591d... 10/packages/binutils/ (59 files in 7 dirs): removed all binutils other then 2.15.94.0.1 used by OZ and 2.16 Jun 27 10:45:00 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rd95fed27... 10/packages/icecast/icecast_2.2.0.bb: icecast: updated to version from .dev and disabled curl Jun 27 10:45:04 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r882ecfd1... 10/packages/libmikey/libmikey0_0.3.2.bb: libmikey: package also development stuff Jun 27 10:45:51 mr_nice_slacker: http://www.maxim-ic.com/appnotes.cfm?appnote_number=1822&CMP=WP-3 Jun 27 10:47:24 re Jun 27 10:47:45 hrw: did you ordered the cable? Jun 27 10:48:21 do13_: their shop is fscked - sent mail with question about price of shipping Jun 27 10:49:04 hrw: count me in. we order two and I'll send you the second one Jun 27 10:49:40 do13_: I asked them about donating too - if they respond positively then I can ask about few cables Jun 27 10:49:51 hrw: ok Jun 27 10:50:35 have to write in blog about machines, then in oz website then in oesf Jun 27 10:50:51 and OE website Jun 27 10:51:02 yes Jun 27 10:51:08 thats OE devices Jun 27 10:51:34 gosh, google can't even run a survey... Jun 27 10:51:43 heh Jun 27 10:51:50 * chouimat is back. Jun 27 10:53:00 man I would have loved to go to the GUADEC... Jun 27 10:53:07 * zecke hates to be a poor fuck... Jun 27 10:54:08 zecke: apropos survey. Do you have the results of the oe survey? Jun 27 10:54:40 do13_: NAbyss has worked on it (evaluating the result) Jun 27 10:55:12 do13_: I have been too busy to start evaluating myself, I can send you the raw results, or we ask NAbyss ;) Jun 27 10:55:24 NAbyss: I do not want to pester you, are you coming along? Jun 27 10:55:30 :) Jun 27 10:59:08 one Zaurus, two Zauruses? two Zaurii? Jun 27 10:59:29 zauruses Jun 27 10:59:49 only use zaurii if your an obnoxious git who pretends to know latin Jun 27 11:00:11 koen: =D+ Jun 27 11:00:32 koen: hehe Jun 27 11:00:58 oh nooes! I got some virii on my zaurii =D Jun 27 11:01:30 "Vulnerant omnes, ultima necat" Jun 27 11:03:22 zecke: Yeah, I'm getting there.. trying to work out meaningful stats from the raw information :) Jun 27 11:03:23 I'm tempted to turn in a paper for akademy... I'm sure sponsoring will not work out anyway... again Jun 27 11:05:44 zecke: using OE to build a KDE distro? Jun 27 11:07:19 chouimat: no "We lost the war" Jun 27 11:07:32 chouimat: anyway as mirko likes not to answer mails... Jun 27 11:08:07 zecke: it's seems mirko live in a part of germany that hasn't discovered the phone yet Jun 27 11:08:23 zecke: good morning Jun 27 11:08:40 pb_: hey Jun 27 11:08:51 pb_: did you add mozilla dependencies to gpe-dm? Jun 27 11:09:27 yeah, I rewrote gpe-dm in javascript and xul Jun 27 11:10:15 pb_: I hope you use canvas and svg massively? Jun 27 11:12:11 canvas is cheating Jun 27 11:12:18 1-pixel
's, man. Jun 27 11:12:40 with 1x1 blank.gif Jun 27 11:12:52 ok this hard drive is dead ... even frozen it gave me I/O errors and dma timeout Jun 27 11:13:31 zecke: of course. even the mouse pointer is an svg in my world. Jun 27 11:15:22 chouimat: broken disk is quite common these days Jun 27 11:15:24 http://www.openembedded.org/projectdevices updated Jun 27 11:16:30 koen: edb-native removed locally from repo - can build be started again? (ewi) Jun 27 11:17:33 zecke: I was hoping to recover the data from it ... Jun 27 11:17:57 ewi is back :) Jun 27 11:18:59 zecke: it is - and I want to get green light to run build again - builds can kill.... Jun 27 11:19:52 builds can kill foreign screens ;) Jun 27 11:23:32 hrw: sure Jun 27 11:24:05 hrw: I even managed to update grub Jun 27 11:24:26 the entry is called "ewi 2.6.16 <- boot this one" :) Jun 27 11:24:36 hehe Jun 27 11:24:46 started Jun 27 11:24:54 Attempted builds: 664 Jun 27 11:24:54 Dependencies not satisfied: 26 Jun 27 11:25:03 dry-run result Jun 27 11:25:18 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/06/27/oeoz-project-devices-arrived/ Jun 27 11:26:49 "OE developer meeting"? Jun 27 11:27:42 Berlin? ;) Jun 27 11:27:55 berlin! when? Jun 27 11:28:00 :) Jun 27 11:28:55 pH5: where do you live again? (district) Jun 27 11:29:31 oh well, woglinde said he would get us the rooms, if I do the rest? but that is getting big :} Jun 27 11:30:41 zecke: nikolassee, one s-bahn station from wannsee Jun 27 11:30:55 koen: maybe this post motivate some... Jun 27 11:31:16 :) Jun 27 11:33:27 when is the oe developer meeting planned? Jun 27 11:33:37 koen: post to OE website is 'page' or 'story'? Jun 27 11:33:49 do13_: hehe, this year :} Jun 27 11:33:57 do13_: or the next one Jun 27 11:35:01 zecke: Then I'll write an entry into my calendar :} Jun 27 11:35:48 good Jun 27 11:36:08 and while it is hot get cheap flights from easy jet Jun 27 11:36:48 hrw: story Jun 27 11:36:55 hrw: although it doesn't really matter Jun 27 11:36:58 ok Jun 27 11:37:15 koen: can you link logo to mainpage? Jun 27 11:37:40 logo? Jun 27 11:38:03 koen: left side of OE website has logo - this logo should link to mainpage Jun 27 11:38:12 hmmm Jun 27 11:38:19 the logo is inside a .css file Jun 27 11:38:49 it is not: