**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 26 02:59:57 2006 Jul 26 03:15:13 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r22c7fd60... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jul 26 03:15:13 ethtool 4: Add latest ethtool version. Also updated the description Jul 26 03:15:13 and added the home page information in the recipe. Jul 26 03:15:13 The original release announcement: Jul 26 03:15:13 NEWS for this release: Version 4 - July 18, 2006 Jul 26 03:15:13 * Feature: UFO support Jul 26 03:15:15 * Feature: support long options Jul 26 05:23:55 * TimRiker is looking for an old sl-5000d update file like: SL5UpdateV138.zip Jul 26 05:31:25 * TimRiker is looking for an old sl-5000d update file like: SL5UpdateV138.zip Jul 26 06:09:25 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r3452f8ca... 10/ (1 packages/emacs/emacs_cvs.bb): emacs: add LDFLAGS for libgcc_s, add 2 more qemu replacements Jul 26 06:56:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r46b2771b... 10/ (1 packages/emacs/emacs_cvs.bb): emacs: depend on libx11 Jul 26 07:16:24 morning Jul 26 07:16:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5901b6af... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): keylaunch: add patch to fix badness with 'install -sD' Jul 26 07:17:03 is there anybody listening? Jul 26 07:18:49 how do i set localisation things in local.conf? Jul 26 07:24:42 mornng Jul 26 07:27:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb49496ee... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-e-x11.bb): task-e-x11: remove obsolete chkhinge Jul 26 07:27:40 * XorA has a horrible feeling he hit shutdown this morning, not logout Jul 26 07:31:23 how do i set localisation things in local.conf? Jul 26 07:32:56 * TEMic is sad because nobody answers his questions Jul 26 07:34:46 XorA: your home machine is unreachable? Jul 26 07:38:34 koen: the one I do OE stuff on yes Jul 26 07:47:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rab21b6d8... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf): angstrom-2006.9: add more feeds Jul 26 07:57:51 Hia.. I get an error on '(re)build package-index'. See http://pastebin.ca/100589 for the bitbake output. Anyone seen this before? Jul 26 08:40:17 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb344d159... 10/ (1 packages/gnome/gnome-doc-utils_0.7.1.bb): gnome-doc-utils: initial add Jul 26 08:40:30 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r49fc9196... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): gpe-soundbite: fix install badness and remove old version Jul 26 08:40:48 hey mikearthur Jul 26 08:40:56 good day koen Jul 26 08:41:02 friendly channel this :) Jul 26 08:49:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb2ce46ac... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): gpe-gallery: fix install badness and remove old versions Jul 26 08:59:58 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r59fe8264... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): gpe-question: fix install badness and remove old version Jul 26 09:07:29 morning all Jul 26 09:07:36 hey RP Jul 26 09:07:47 RP: I've updated prelink in .dev, I hope you don't mind Jul 26 09:08:59 koen: No, I don't. Was it out of sync? Jul 26 09:09:13 it didn't fetch anymore Jul 26 09:09:25 and the patch still applied to the latest version Jul 26 09:09:40 koen: Ah, that's fine then :) Jul 26 09:09:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r684ae194... 10/ (13 files in 4 dirs): prelink: update to new version, since the old one vanished from the debian mirrors Jul 26 09:09:51 ah, there it is Jul 26 09:09:51 I should probably sync that back to poky :) Jul 26 09:09:57 :) Jul 26 09:11:57 NOTE: package gdm-2.14.9-r0: task do_package: started Jul 26 09:11:59 yay! Jul 26 09:12:22 that only leaves the tedious job of writing kdrive compliant gdm sessions Jul 26 09:13:41 koen: gettng the whole of gnome in? Jul 26 09:14:03 XorA: nah, gdm is just an experiment Jul 26 09:14:25 some temptation for CoreDump|afk ;) Jul 26 09:14:30 hi guys, can someone tell me why gettext-native is failing on not finding libjava.so, and how I can make bitbake to find it? Jul 26 09:14:44 koen: I was going to finish a openbox/fbpanel desktop today, but I seem to have turned my machine off Jul 26 09:18:33 XorA: I built fluxbox, twm, icewm and matchbox-wm today for angstrom :) Jul 26 09:18:40 koen: cool Jul 26 09:18:56 and e-wm Jul 26 09:18:58 koen: now just xserver-xorg Jul 26 09:19:02 :) Jul 26 09:20:02 god I hate webmastering Jul 26 09:23:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40ffcb28... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Jul 26 09:23:47 gdm: add 2.14.9 Jul 26 09:23:47 * themes need to get packaged into subpackages Jul 26 09:23:47 * needs session files to work with kdrive Jul 26 09:24:24 anyone here knows about gettext-native? I've looked in both bugs.oe.org and the mailinglist, but couldn't find an answer Jul 26 09:24:45 ArjanS: that one gets built using the toolchain on your host Jul 26 09:25:26 Hi, do anyone have a machine .conf file for a Psion Netbook Pro? Jul 26 09:25:34 right, but libjava.so is right there and other programs can find it Jul 26 09:25:54 seb4100: florian_kc has one Jul 26 09:26:16 seb4100: I'll poke him today to add one, since I want to build images for my netbooks as well :) Jul 26 09:26:38 OK, thank you very much :) Jul 26 09:28:42 keon: do you know where to find instructions regarding the installation of the required boot loader (NB Pro)? Jul 26 09:29:23 koen: ooops, sorry for the mistyping... Jul 26 09:40:12 can anybody please tell me how to set localisation things (locale-bla) in local.conf? When I set it in bootstrap_extra_rdepends like 'locale-base-de-de', task-bootstrap says 'dependency can not be satisfied' :-( Jul 26 09:41:52 seb4100: no idea, mine came with the right bootloader Jul 26 09:42:21 i saw some messages about X11 package updates recently - OE has moved to xorg in the last few days is that right? kdrive still works? Jul 26 09:43:00 jkp: OE has had x.org stuff for months now Jul 26 09:43:12 i ask because we are getting segfaults on the kdrive build we did (fbdev) - im thinking that we could try the newer code before we look more deeply into whats wrong with our current build Jul 26 09:43:22 koen: hmmm - didnt know that Jul 26 09:43:40 the version we have runs, but as soon as an app quits it dies Jul 26 09:44:11 does gdb give any clues? Jul 26 09:44:33 koen: its not a debug build - thats my next step Jul 26 09:47:45 sounds like a crash in server reset Jul 26 09:54:47 mallum: it seems every kdrive after 20050207 is horrendously broken :( Jul 26 09:54:54 koen: I saw your blog, by way of maemo planet, I'm sure you realise that Octave builds with bitbake quite happily (you'd mentioned it with R and OOo) Jul 26 09:55:13 lardman: yeah, but I'm a compiling masochist ;) Jul 26 09:55:30 it's a nice stress-test for the compiler Jul 26 09:55:58 koen: need to try the input-hotplug branch Jul 26 09:55:59 I'm tempted to set up a buildd and start building debian for armel just to annoy wookey ;) Jul 26 09:56:13 mallum: I have high hopes for that Jul 26 09:56:34 (the input-branch) Jul 26 09:58:13 mallum: it seems I killed the gnome-performance list ;) Jul 26 10:02:36 koso this is known about...or other people have seen this... Jul 26 10:02:57 you mentioned a stable date...we could revert the bb files to something pre that date then i take it Jul 26 10:04:37 jkp: well, kdrive 20050207 is also horribly broken, but most problems have been identified and hacked/worked around Jul 26 10:04:58 you can say kdrive is inherently broken Jul 26 10:04:58 well, if you wanted the most stable build you could get, what would you use? Jul 26 10:05:20 I'd try to fix the segfault Jul 26 10:05:31 all previous version have suspend/resume badness Jul 26 10:05:35 hmmm - yeah Jul 26 10:05:52 im just not sure i have the expertise for that Jul 26 10:05:57 i dont know the X11 code at all Jul 26 10:10:53 hey pH5 Jul 26 10:12:08 hey koen Jul 26 10:26:46 heh Jul 26 10:27:02 "nigeria orders 1.000.000 OLPCs" Jul 26 10:27:13 ah the irony Jul 26 10:27:20 I suspect their order looks like: Jul 26 10:27:22 "Yes, we buy you 1.000.000 laptops. Can you provide us? Send us items and we will pay into your account, you make Western Union Account." Jul 26 10:28:39 lol Jul 26 10:50:00 hi all Jul 26 10:51:14 hey florian_kc :) Jul 26 10:56:37 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r07ec1a0b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): strace-4.5.{12,14}: fix the 'unknown syscall trap' error for EABI Jul 26 10:57:09 pH5: yay! Jul 26 11:00:50 03rwhitby 07org.oe.dev * r7a85c145... 10/ (1 conf/distro/unslung.conf): unslung.conf: Commented out freeze.inc (we don't use it anymore, and I don't know how it got back in there). Jul 26 11:03:16 koen: here is a backtrace of the xtscal segfault: http://en.pastebin.ca/100717 Jul 26 11:04:27 heh Jul 26 11:04:30 font badness Jul 26 11:05:03 * pH5 has no clue about fc's internal structures Jul 26 11:07:12 pH5: xtscal's main.c line 154 Jul 26 11:07:25 what happens if you remove the text? Jul 26 11:09:18 and line 603 Jul 26 11:11:34 pH5: something like http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/xtscal-notext.patch Jul 26 11:14:15 koen: can try that. that's not where the real problem lies, though.. Jul 26 11:14:25 yeah Jul 26 11:14:33 but if it works it would allow people to calibrate Jul 26 11:14:52 koen: pH5 had a nicer hack than that Jul 26 11:15:58 XorA: I wouldn't dare to doubt that :) Jul 26 11:16:56 something like if(pointer==0) return 0; in fontconfig somewhere, I lost link hrw gave me Jul 26 11:18:22 XorA: I have it applied already, but it only helps against the segfault in strlen. Jul 26 11:18:47 pH5: that one at least let xtscal run for me Jul 26 11:19:15 pH5: and if thats koens arm untl real bug is fixed ts nicer Jul 26 11:19:26 ~lart I key for being sticky Jul 26 11:19:26 * ibot shoves a crumpet down I key's throat, happy now?! Huh? Want some JAM with that? for being sticky Jul 26 11:21:08 XorA: I too had xtscal running with that hack on the magician, but with the newly-built hx4700 image something is different :( Jul 26 11:21:24 pH5: that hack worked for me on c7x0 Jul 26 11:21:43 pH5: you involved with HTC linux's? Jul 26 11:23:41 XorA: given enough free time, yes. Jul 26 11:24:05 pH5: cool, any work at all being done on Wizard? google is being most unhelpful Jul 26 11:26:14 XorA: I don't know of any. The wizard isn't pxa2xx based, unfortunately.. Jul 26 11:29:51 Package drm-0.0+cvs...-r2 fails with 'no Targets for make' in directory libdrm Jul 26 11:49:56 rwhitby, pH5: One of you should merge... Jul 26 11:50:43 I'll do. Jul 26 11:51:23 many thanks Jul 26 11:51:29 thx pH5 Jul 26 11:51:59 that was an example of two commits at much the same time, with both being completely up to date before committing Jul 26 11:52:08 then pushed to two different servers Jul 26 11:52:11 then the servers are synced Jul 26 11:52:31 (servers were synced just before the commits too) Jul 26 11:52:58 i.e. an example of the guaranteed multiple heads that you will always get with a distributed SCM. Cannot be avoided. Jul 26 12:00:34 koen: pushing some nbp bits... Jul 26 12:02:01 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r13df1469... 10/ (4 files in 4 dirs): base-files: Ad Netbook Pro bits. Jul 26 12:02:08 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r19e53bad... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): tslib: Add Netbook Pro bits. Jul 26 12:02:14 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r8718924d... 10/ (1 conf/machine/netbook-pro.conf mtn:execute true): netbook-pro.conf: New machine description for Psion Netbook Pro. Jul 26 12:02:32 seb4100: there you go :) Jul 26 12:02:37 The fontconfig segfault happens in fcmatch.c, line 575 for the last pattern in the loop. (p->elds.u.dyn+21)->object has the value of 45, but there are only objects up to 44, apparently. Jul 26 12:03:18 pH5: so it is a real bug in fontconfig? Jul 26 12:03:57 koen: I would say yes, even if something is feeding it bogus data, it shouldn't segfault internally like this. Jul 26 12:14:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r777dc368... 10/ (1 conf/machine/netbook-pro.conf): netbook-pro.conf: clean it up a bit Jul 26 12:14:27 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf1ae9d5e... 10/ (1 packages/linux/netbookpro-kernel_2.6.17.bb): netbookpro-kernel: add WIP 2.6.17 kernel for the netbook-pro Jul 26 12:14:27 florian_kc: thank you very much for the netbook-pro.conf! Jul 26 12:16:08 koen whats the netbook-pro? Jul 26 12:16:25 woglinde: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/netbookpro-s Jul 26 12:17:35 regarding the Netbook Pro, do anyone know how to boot jffs2 images with the commercial boot loader, or how to change it if req'd? Jul 26 12:27:43 hi Jul 26 12:33:07 http://pastebin.de/9698 Jul 26 12:33:31 I get a Linker Error in one of my packages if the linker tries to link some of the standard libraries Jul 26 12:33:55 I tried to pass the -L Option by hand but it doesn't help Jul 26 12:34:07 does anyone have an idea why this error happens? Jul 26 12:36:58 cobeluis looks like some c++ stuff is missing Jul 26 12:37:26 try g++ instead of gcc Jul 26 12:39:50 Play I'll try it Jul 26 12:40:05 Okay Jul 26 12:40:08 I mean Jul 26 12:50:07 seb4100: yw, but to make it really useful yoU'd need some more stuff. Jul 26 12:50:08 Ah it works now. Thank you Jul 26 12:50:39 cobelius no prob Jul 26 12:50:45 someone needs to hassle Simtec a litlle bit Jul 26 12:51:48 florian_kc: do you know where I could find some documentation regarding this? Jul 26 12:52:43 florian_kc: for a first step, I would like to try booting your gpe-image-netbook-pro-32-20050810.rootfs.jffs2 Jul 26 12:52:50 seb4100: iirc that linux project for the normal netbook has information about how to build images for the bootloader. Jul 26 12:53:17 florian_kc: OK, sorry, I didn't know the bootloader was the same, thank you very much! Jul 26 12:53:35 seb4100: iirc its a different version but pretty similar Jul 26 12:55:11 hm Jul 26 12:59:06 http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5952485377.html Jul 26 13:00:50 I have been thinking about how monotone works Jul 26 13:01:02 crofton use the source luke Jul 26 13:01:06 could I give local users commit access to my db in .dev Jul 26 13:01:18 er monotone policy works :) Jul 26 13:01:28 03dirk 07org.oe.oz354x * r250b2683... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-openzaurus_2.6.1x: enable uinput module in tosa-defconfig Jul 26 13:01:42 then (assuming I had commit access to main servers) Jul 26 13:01:55 forward their work into the real .dev? Jul 26 13:03:02 Hmn the Software in one of my packages only run on the build system but not on the target system. When I try to run it on the target I get a "Segmentation fault". What could be a reason for this? Jul 26 13:05:49 cobelius try gdb Jul 26 13:06:02 maybee to many striped symbols Jul 26 13:09:31 koen: I think I found the fontconfig bug. Jul 26 13:09:34 It's FcObjectPtrU assuming a wrong order of objects in the _FcObjectTypes list. Jul 26 13:09:46 cool Jul 26 13:12:03 http://en.pastebin.ca/100810 Jul 26 13:22:28 pH5: apply it, if it works Jul 26 13:48:11 morning Jul 26 13:52:38 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r171104fa... 10/ (1 packages/tslib/tslib_20060703.bb): tslib-conf: rdepend on detect-stylus for ipaq-pxa270 (hx4700) Jul 26 14:03:25 * koen merges Jul 26 14:03:42 03koen 07org.oe.dev * raea59ac4... 10/ (1 packages/linux/netbookpro-kernel_2.6.17.bb): netbookpre-kernel: make it compile Jul 26 14:26:49 who the hell....? Jul 26 14:27:19 koen: you sure that works? I'm still working on this emacs recipe.... Jul 26 14:27:33 Now bake for 30 minutes at 350 degrees Jul 26 14:27:36 mmm - thats good emacs! Jul 26 14:27:50 koen: from what i saw a while ago only diet-x11 would be built...ever...because it's not virtual and I didn't see any way to set a provider Jul 26 14:28:10 it doesn't completely work yet..... Jul 26 14:35:59 do I remember well that there is a non-X-dependent version of detect-stylus somewhere? Jul 26 14:36:38 JustinP: libx11 should pull in the real libx11 Jul 26 14:37:41 koen: do you remember this replacement? Jul 26 14:38:59 ArjanS: it's not in OE Jul 26 14:39:57 koen: hmmmm..... Jul 26 14:39:59 oh too bad... does that have a reason, or is there just nobody yet who made a recipe Jul 26 14:41:00 ArjanS: the opie people don't care enough Jul 26 14:41:23 ArjanS: and the new udev can handle it as well Jul 26 14:43:00 ah okay, I saw something on the commits about using udev indeed. is version 092 already in use on .dev, or is that going to happen soon? Jul 26 14:43:54 koen: perhaps the xorg stuff changed it.... Jul 26 14:44:19 koen: I plan on making a nox version as well, as most people don't have real x Jul 26 14:45:07 JustinP: diet-x11 and libx11 are interchangable for apps, so pulling it in doesn't hurt Jul 26 14:45:15 ArjanS: the udev in .dev supports it already Jul 26 14:45:30 koen: thanks for the answers again! Jul 26 14:45:31 koen: you sure? emacs won't build with diet on my Z Jul 26 14:46:03 JustinP: I meant that people can upgrade to libx11 without any pain Jul 26 14:46:55 oh, yeah, of course Jul 26 14:49:42 argh, the mount call in mountall.sh doesn't do anything in busybox 1.2 Jul 26 14:49:52 mount -a works, mount -at ... doesn't seem to. Jul 26 14:49:57 gah Jul 26 14:50:02 ~lart busybox Jul 26 14:50:02 * ibot lowers busybox's priority Jul 26 14:50:32 ibot: botsnack Jul 26 14:50:32 koen: thanks Jul 26 14:56:56 koen: did you test this? Jul 26 14:57:14 koen: as expected, libx11 pulls diet-x11 Jul 26 14:57:21 it does libx11 over here Jul 26 14:57:33 ~lart no virtual/libx11 Jul 26 14:57:33 * ibot beats no virtual/libx11 to within 2.54cm of his life Jul 26 14:58:08 not here Jul 26 15:12:56 Hello Jul 26 15:13:50 hey sirfred Jul 26 15:13:59 mikearthur: how's your tosa doing? Jul 26 15:14:15 koen: well, external SVN access was broken again today Jul 26 15:14:22 meaning most of the day was unproductive Jul 26 15:15:51 mikearthur: so you played a lot of solitaire? Jul 26 15:16:00 read wikipedia mostly Jul 26 15:16:13 and did some wince dev Jul 26 15:16:22 btw, the yellow wolffson tape is nice Jul 26 15:16:24 but there isn't much to do on that front, its all done Jul 26 15:16:29 yellow tape? Jul 26 15:16:38 with the wolffson logo Jul 26 15:16:53 the box dhl dropped of had copious amounts of it applied Jul 26 15:18:55 florian_kc: the Netbook (not pro) project only proposes an Epoch-based bootloader or OS.IMG files Jul 26 15:19:30 florian_kc: none of them are usable with the commercial Netbook Pro (WinCe) Jul 26 15:19:52 seb4100: sure, but iirc there were tools to create these image files. Jul 26 15:20:12 of course the contents would be different Jul 26 15:20:18 yes, I tried them but apparently the OS.IMG file is ignored during bootup Jul 26 15:20:38 (tried with reset+ctrl-d, with OS.IMG on SD card) Jul 26 15:21:20 seb4100: the magic for the nbp is CF and ctrl+esc+shift+d Jul 26 15:21:56 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r87998558... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): emacs: switch to using a patch instead of sed hackery, turn x11 back off since the default is diet-x11 Jul 26 15:22:21 JustinP: which bitbake version do you have? Jul 26 15:23:05 seb4100: the magic name is nBkProOs.img Jul 26 15:23:42 * koen tries to figure out how to do the magic keypress without a keyboard Jul 26 15:24:13 koen: one size 10 Dr Marten boot + open fifth story window Jul 26 15:24:39 * koen looks Jul 26 15:24:44 inly size 9 combat boots Jul 26 15:24:48 only* Jul 26 15:24:53 good enough :-) Jul 26 15:29:07 afternoon Jul 26 15:34:11 koen: newest 1.4 from svn Jul 26 15:34:28 ah, I have 1.5 Jul 26 15:34:33 that might explain it Jul 26 15:35:20 perhaps Jul 26 15:35:24 probably backwards list Jul 26 15:35:34 * JustinP is going to finally push a virtual/x11 Jul 26 15:35:44 yeah Jul 26 15:35:49 that was my plan as well Jul 26 15:37:04 florian_kc: thanks, it's better: I get "bad header CRC" now (using a Netbook image) Jul 26 15:39:35 florian_kc: funny because it accepts SD for flash updates, and only CF for booting, apparently Jul 26 15:39:45 florian_kc: do you know where I could find a suitable nBkProOS.img file (if it already exists)? Jul 26 15:42:17 i have some here, i think i can give you one that works with my image... Jul 26 15:43:57 koen: I have it mostly done....once I'm done I'll do a quick build and push. if I do it wrong feel free to disapprove it....or fix it... Jul 26 15:44:03 or tell me what to change Jul 26 15:44:39 or wait till virtual/mickeyl returns from holidays ;) Jul 26 15:45:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r04e7fd23... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fontconfig: apply a patch by Philipp Zabel to stop xtscal from crashing Jul 26 15:45:44 florian_kc: it would be very nice, thank you! Jul 26 15:49:41 koen: great Jul 26 15:50:27 lardman: that patch should work, pH5 probably will come up with a better one Jul 26 15:50:56 That's been plaguing me for a long time now Jul 26 15:54:36 koen: is mickeyl also going to try to do this? Jul 26 15:55:59 mickeyl guards the virtual/namespace Jul 26 16:06:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r510f112f... 10/ (1 conf/machine/netbook-pro.conf): netbook-pro.conf: xscale is spelled with an x Jul 26 16:19:06 hmm, I've just built monotone 0.28 and tried a first pull (from the new downloaded OE.mtn db, and I get: "mtn: error: sqlite error: SQL logic error or missing database". Anyone seen this? Jul 26 16:21:43 Whole error here: http://pastebin.ca/101001 Jul 26 16:22:43 needless to say both the dir and OE.db file are writeable Jul 26 16:23:23 OE.db?!?! Jul 26 16:23:42 I renamed it from OE.mtn Jul 26 16:23:52 that breaks it ;) Jul 26 16:23:52 hoping I'd not have to alter my update.sh script Jul 26 16:28:26 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8eca6f68... 10/ (1 packages/dri/drm_cvs.bb): Jul 26 16:28:26 drm: inherit autotools and use autotools methods for install and staging Jul 26 16:28:26 closes #1201 Jul 26 16:37:17 that shouldn't break it....the extension of course does not matter a slong as you put the right filename in the pull Jul 26 16:37:51 koen: well, mickeyl can check it when he gets back. Do you think virtual/x11 or virtual/libx11 is more correct? Jul 26 16:38:02 I have it as virtual/x11 right now Jul 26 16:38:04 hey zecke Jul 26 16:38:08 not like it's hard to change Jul 26 16:38:09 hey Jul 26 16:38:17 ~lart corporate firewalls... Jul 26 16:38:17 * ibot pours hot grits down the front of corporate firewalls...'s pants Jul 26 16:38:25 it crashed and lost all port settings... Jul 26 16:39:40 a+ Jul 26 16:43:16 koen: will you update the wiki as well? Jul 26 16:43:20 (GSoC page) Jul 26 16:44:02 zecke: yes Jul 26 16:44:16 CoreDump|home: iirc busybox 1.2.0 has a e2fsck applet Jul 26 16:47:13 koen: From dumb questions department: is Angstrom release schedule settled yet? Does '9' in 2006.9 mean anything? ;-) Jul 26 16:47:43 reenoo: ping Jul 26 16:47:47 the 9 is suppossed to mean september Jul 26 16:48:12 psokolovsky: but I will defer any statements to my release buddy mickeyl :) Jul 26 16:48:17 koen: So, that's soon. What will happen? Jul 26 16:48:27 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rd1c59446... 10/ (343 files in 64 dirs): Jul 26 16:48:27 x11: switch to virtual/x11 so that diet or full x11 can be selected Jul 26 16:48:27 - emacs and synergy need full x11, hence libx11 instead of virtual/x11 Jul 26 16:48:27 - any other packages which depend on a full x11 will need the same change Jul 26 16:48:44 koen: Can we expect release branch creation soon? Jul 26 16:50:43 psokolovsky: no Jul 26 16:50:57 I'm about to send an e-mail about this change as well./.. Jul 26 16:51:52 bye Jul 26 16:55:47 koen: we need to place .pc and .la handling somewhere Jul 26 16:56:22 koen: getting this working is prefered over handling of native and cross packages Jul 26 16:57:40 ok Jul 26 16:57:57 RP: any idea what could be wrong with poky? Jul 26 17:00:51 how much does openembedded.org/viewmtn lag? Jul 26 17:01:36 JustinP: 30 minutes max Jul 26 17:01:44 it will update in ~8 minutes Jul 26 17:01:57 ok :-) Jul 26 17:09:45 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Jul 26 17:12:21 * obergix[work] is away: I'm busy Jul 26 17:24:17 bbl Jul 26 17:24:35 later Jul 26 17:30:57 zecke: pong Jul 26 17:31:38 reenoo: I'm currently not subscribed at opie-devel and I would welcome pointers to where patches were turned down Jul 26 17:33:36 heh Jul 26 17:34:03 or did I turn the patches down and can't remember :} Jul 26 17:35:55 Slavek sent a number of patches. I'm afraid the gmane archives are malfunctioning for me again so I can't link to them right now Jul 26 17:36:32 where they actively turned down or just ignored? Jul 26 17:37:05 the bluetooth ones were literally shot down Jul 26 17:37:36 hmm Jul 26 17:37:54 not too good Jul 26 17:38:14 the backlight ones were arguably not ready to be applied directly, but the idea was right, i.e. refactoring stuff to stop the silly code duplication for Linux 2.6 devices Jul 26 17:38:48 there are >=4 copies of virtually the same code in ODevice now Jul 26 17:39:04 right Jul 26 17:39:46 wow Jul 26 17:39:52 am I in #opie? Jul 26 17:40:28 koen: double check Jul 26 17:43:46 If I had commit access, could I grant commit access to .dev on my local db Jul 26 17:44:01 for others, and then commit to main db on my key? Jul 26 17:44:17 Crofton: no Jul 26 17:44:27 Crofton: access permissions are granted via ~/monotone/.monotonerc Jul 26 17:44:29 Crofton: that would defeat the purpose, wouldn't it? Jul 26 17:44:51 Crofton: you can grant commit on your local DB just fine but OE wouldn't allow those revs in since they'd be signed by someone else Jul 26 17:45:04 that is what I am afraid off Jul 26 17:45:20 Crofton: try asking njs Jul 26 17:45:23 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4e96ca10... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf): angstrom: s/libx11/x11/ Jul 26 17:45:27 ok Jul 26 17:45:38 JustinP: I wonder if you could get around that by doing 'monotone approve ' Jul 26 17:45:44 perhaps..... Jul 26 17:45:51 trying to figure out a way where me and some others can work against dev, while only needing commit by one person Jul 26 17:45:57 I doubt that it would allow the other certs to come through, though Jul 26 17:46:10 and it would kind of defeat the trust model.... Jul 26 17:49:55 njs: I have one question. Is there a way to filter checkouts? Jul 26 17:50:11 njs: e.g. still checking out the latest rev but limited to certain directories? Jul 26 17:50:26 njs: I could abuse test results for this, but is there another way Jul 26 17:52:57 heh Jul 26 17:52:58 http://searchdns.netcraft.com/?host=myzaurus.com&position=limited Jul 26 17:53:00 is the monotone irc channel on freenode? Jul 26 17:53:01 win2k Jul 26 17:53:11 gah Jul 26 17:53:12 Crofton: none, it's on oftc.net Jul 26 17:53:31 * Crofton must stop procrastinating and finish this cursed report Jul 26 17:55:35 http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=221 Jul 26 18:13:18 is there a reason for packages/xorg-lib/libxfont_X11R7.1-1.2.0.bb when there is not a 1.2.0 version of libxfont... Jul 26 18:14:30 nevarrie: there is an individual 1.2.0 release of libxfont. Jul 26 18:15:07 nevarrie: this was the easiest way out of the fact that libxfont_1.2.0 would sort before libxfont_X11R7... Jul 26 18:15:27 pH5: it doesn't fetch (anymore) Jul 26 18:15:33 yuck Jul 26 18:15:57 404 on http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.1/src/lib/libXfont-X11R7.1-1.2.0.tar.gz Jul 26 18:16:04 ah, maybe that's raymond's update. Jul 26 18:16:06 indeed. Jul 26 18:16:19 we have to overwrite SRC_URI for this one Jul 26 18:16:25 as koen says it does not fetch and I have not been able to find a copy of the tar file... Jul 26 18:17:15 http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/lib/libXfont-1.2.0.tar.bz2 Jul 26 18:17:37 thanks... Jul 26 18:20:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4837ce95... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libxfont_X11R7.1-1.2.0.bb): libxfont 1.2.0: fix SRC_URI Jul 26 18:20:48 btw, is there any reason to use the tar.gz and not the tar.bz2 archives? Jul 26 18:21:02 not a good one Jul 26 18:22:26 heh Jul 26 18:22:35 koen, I bow to your patch naming skills Jul 26 18:22:44 :D Jul 26 18:39:21 koen: looks liek you also need to add S = "${WORKDIR}/libXfont-${PV}" to the bb file also. Jul 26 18:41:40 koen: and can you use XORG_MIRROR in the SRC_URI? Jul 26 18:42:10 gah Jul 26 18:42:16 one at a time please :) Jul 26 18:42:38 koen: make sure you're updated or you'll conflict with my thing... Jul 26 18:48:00 JustinP: I'd prefer virtual/libx11 to virtual/x11. Is it possible to apply patches depending on which libx11 is the preferred one? We might want to drop all those disable-xkb patches for images that come with the real libx11. Jul 26 18:50:30 pH5: are those disable patches not in diet-x11? Jul 26 18:50:47 pH5: virtual/libx11 is fine with me...I just wasn't sure which was more appropriate Jul 26 18:51:17 JustinP: those patches patch out bits in the apps themselves Jul 26 18:51:31 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rc945b5a8... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libxfont_X11R7.1-1.2.0.bb): libxfont: also fix S Jul 26 18:51:38 oh, in actual apps, not in x11? Jul 26 18:52:02 correct Jul 26 18:52:03 I don't know....I suppose you could use some python-foo to get the provider of virtual/(lib)x11.... Jul 26 18:52:27 assuming that is an exposed interface Jul 26 18:52:27 JustinP: for example xset and xdpyinfo have --disable-xkb in OECONF, not sure if we want to disable this conditonally.. Jul 26 18:52:40 * JustinP shrugs Jul 26 18:53:00 shall I change it to virtual/libx11 then? any more opinions? shall I wait a bit for others to chime in? Jul 26 18:54:34 let's wait a bit Jul 26 18:55:01 ok Jul 26 18:55:21 JustinP: I think libx11 is reasonable because it's a virtual provider for libx11 functionality or a subset thereof. Waiting a bit won't do any harm. Jul 26 18:55:24 I wasn't sure if there was a difference between libx11 and x11 DEPENDS.... Jul 26 18:55:43 some things depended on libx11 and a few on x11. I switched them all to virtual/x11 Jul 26 18:56:07 x11 was the name of the libx11 provider before I renamed it :) Jul 26 18:56:12 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb36e2924... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/libxfont_X11R7.1-1.2.0.bb): libxfont: and use $XORG_MIRROR Jul 26 18:56:31 koen: indeed one at a time. thanks Jul 26 18:58:39 pH5: ah....well, then libx11 may make more sense Jul 26 18:59:01 pH5: perhaps I'll do it later today if no-one complains. I suggest responding to the e-mail so that we have your opinion "on file" Jul 26 19:01:28 RP: usbview is now in OE, might be nice for usbhost models in poky Jul 26 19:02:23 koen: or....in OZ? Jul 26 19:02:46 JustinP: i didn't know OpieZaurus support gtk ;) Jul 26 19:03:08 GPE.... Jul 26 19:03:27 :p Jul 26 19:04:53 * JustinP uses X Jul 26 19:04:56 fill X in fact Jul 26 19:19:20 hi andersee Jul 26 19:19:26 hi reenoo Jul 26 19:20:05 woglinde: morning Jul 26 19:20:17 how goes it? Jul 26 19:20:17 hey woglinde Jul 26 19:20:26 morning andersee Jul 26 19:20:42 reenoo: morning Jul 26 19:20:47 andersee fine now I have free time Jul 26 19:20:58 free time? Jul 26 19:21:06 I thought that was just a myth Jul 26 19:21:13 summer term is over Jul 26 19:21:13 andersee: he is just kidding Jul 26 19:21:21 woglinde: you have a baby Jul 26 19:21:29 he Jul 26 19:21:29 woglinde: no way you can have free time Jul 26 19:21:34 he is sleeping Jul 26 19:22:19 you mean "not awake yet" Jul 26 19:22:23 woglinde: well you have free time and your newborn is sleeping, I think it is about time to inform the child care ("JugendAmt") Jul 26 19:22:44 heh Jul 26 19:22:48 jesus Jul 26 19:22:53 you have problems Jul 26 19:23:01 woglinde: sure :) Jul 26 19:23:23 problems, others should have Jul 26 19:24:36 woglinde: I will borrow a msp board and will test your patches then Jul 26 19:25:21 zeke hm Jul 26 19:25:26 when? Jul 26 19:25:43 how much maybee I buy some for my own pleasure Jul 26 19:26:07 woglinde: You can get the professional boards from ScatterWeb GmbH Jul 26 19:26:18 woglinde: and at the uni you may borrow them Jul 26 19:26:28 woglinde: Kerstin isn't doing anything useful with them anyway Jul 26 19:26:35 zecke hm Jul 26 19:26:39 woglinde: she is could at keeping track of the list and opening doors Jul 26 19:26:52 good you mean Jul 26 19:27:24 sorry Jul 26 19:27:30 I'm disturbed ;) Jul 26 19:27:34 did you aks her? Jul 26 19:27:47 woglinde: well, we had to ask her several times Jul 26 19:27:58 hm I already told christopher of the scatterweb software Jul 26 19:28:06 woglinde: hehe Jul 26 19:28:07 about Jul 26 19:28:21 woglinde: www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~hutta and download the firmware Jul 26 19:28:29 woglinde: it has the proprietray bits included Jul 26 19:29:56 zecke you already told me this Jul 26 19:30:28 redundancy is good, didn't you know? Jul 26 19:30:36 hm Jul 26 19:47:17 Crofton / JustinP / koen: err, actually netsync will happily pass on other people's certs that are in your local db. (Consider what happens when I pull from server1, then push to server2.) This is because the mtn's trust model isn't fully finished yet. Jul 26 19:47:33 zecke: there isn't any way to do a checkout like that, no, though in principle it wouldn't be too hard to add. Jul 26 19:50:20 njs, do you understand what I am trying to do? Jul 26 19:50:58 I want to suport local guys commiting to our master db, then have one person act as a gateway to push these changes to the main db Jul 26 19:53:11 Crofton: monotone will do that; existing netsync permissions control who can communicate, not what is communicated. Jul 26 19:53:44 but is that the way it should work :) Jul 26 19:53:47 long term? Jul 26 19:54:16 njs: I might just start using testresults Jul 26 19:55:48 njs, I assume the "gatekeeper" would have control over which changesets would be pushed also? Jul 26 19:56:55 seperate branch + pluck? Jul 26 19:57:24 org.oe.crofton-free-for-all :) Jul 26 19:58:40 zecke: what type of keys does qte/opie see? more specifically what does KEY_NUMLOCK (linux/input.h) translate to? Qt::Key_NumLock ? Jul 26 20:00:45 reenoo: what QtE keyboard driver are you using? Jul 26 20:00:54 that is the alternate approach Jul 26 20:00:56 reenoo: the one that reads the symbols from the kernel keymap? Jul 26 20:01:11 * Crofton is still procrastinating Jul 26 20:01:33 reenoo: anyway. Yes KEY_NUMLOCK should relate to Key_NumLock Jul 26 20:01:38 I guess I need to try running a local branch again Jul 26 20:01:51 I just got burned out doing that under the older monotone Jul 26 20:01:51 reenoo: installing opie-keyview (as inputmethod) can give you a hint what QtE is reporting Jul 26 20:02:01 hopeflly behavior is better this time .... Jul 26 20:02:03 zecke: how would I determine that? this is the default ipaq stuff... Jul 26 20:03:01 zecke: I don't have the hardware in question Jul 26 20:03:12 reenoo: checking the qte_2.3.10.bb file and judging if something like kernel-keymap.patch is applied Jul 26 20:03:35 Crofton: you can just do 'mtn pluck -r' and it will apply it to your workspace Jul 26 20:03:50 reenoo: it is hard to give more input :) Jul 26 20:04:35 zecke: no, that patch is not applied for any of the ipaqs Jul 26 20:04:52 reenoo: this should be fine for any h3xxx device Jul 26 20:05:38 reenoo: for external keyboards the kernel-keymap.patch (together with a proper keymap loaded into the kernel) should be prefered Jul 26 20:07:22 anyway, I'm going to bed Jul 26 20:07:30 zecke: ok, thanks Jul 26 20:07:34 zecke: good night Jul 26 20:08:20 reenoo: I don't know if we are talking about external keyboards or internal 'device' buttons Jul 26 20:08:39 in case of internal device buttons we could greatly simplify the tables in the various odevice_* classes Jul 26 20:09:26 zecke: internal buttons Jul 26 20:10:04 it is too late to 'muse' about that :} Jul 26 20:10:16 NAbyss: are you progressing with the survey results? Jul 26 20:15:42 * obergix[work] is back (gone 03:03:20) Jul 26 20:40:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r0a9016d4... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): netbook-pro kernel: rename Jul 26 21:11:18 I'm getting the following error when trying to build busybox... : Jul 26 21:11:21 update-alternatives: Error: cannot register alternative lsmod to /bin/lsmod since it is already registered to /sbin/lsmod Jul 26 21:11:31 anyone seen this before? Jul 26 21:11:46 v8jlene: you there? Jul 26 21:18:41 ERROR: function do_stage failed with libxfont-X11R7.1-1.2.0 Jul 26 21:18:47 http://pastebin.com/757664 Jul 26 21:18:51 Any ideas? Jul 26 21:23:05 * koen is still waiting for pastebin.com to load Jul 26 21:23:27 *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. Jul 26 21:23:36 yeah, pastebin is very slow the last days. Jul 26 21:23:40 NOTE: package libxfont-X11R7.1-1.2.0-r0: task do_populate_staging: completed Jul 26 21:23:48 hm its fast here Jul 26 21:24:12 I should fix the a780 in OE Jul 26 21:24:18 ~lart sa1100_rtc Jul 26 21:24:19 * ibot blasts sa1100_rtc with a huge firehose then strangles sa1100_rtc with it Jul 26 21:24:27 hu? Jul 26 21:24:29 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r2a31a166... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jul 26 21:24:29 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Addition of hotplug-ng to RDEPENDS Jul 26 21:24:29 linux/linux/linux-jlime-jornada6xx-2.6.17/defconfig_jlime : Jul 26 21:24:29 * Change of PREVENT FIRMWARE BUILD = yes, USE ONLY DRIVERS THAT DOESNT REQUIRE EXTERNAL FIRMWARE = Yes Jul 26 21:24:36 whats wrong with rtc? Jul 26 21:24:38 What did the sa1100 etc do? Jul 26 21:24:47 s/etc/rtc/ :) Jul 26 21:24:50 koen is the netbookpro sa1100? Jul 26 21:24:59 woglinde: pxa255 Jul 26 21:25:08 hm Jul 26 21:25:08 RP: break compilation Jul 26 21:25:18 koen??? Jul 26 21:25:35 koen: It shouldn't do... Jul 26 21:25:44 woglinde: sa1100_rtc also works on pxa Jul 26 21:26:02 koen hm Jul 26 21:26:04 RP: probably some gcc 4.1.1/EABI issue Jul 26 21:26:07 that sounds not good Jul 26 21:27:24 RP: your change to ipkg-utils had some side-effects: http://rafb.net/paste/results/7kwOow22.html Jul 26 21:28:05 (and I can't spell 'bug') Jul 26 21:28:20 koen: I'm just about the commit that! Jul 26 21:28:45 | drivers/char/sa1100-rtc.c:130: error: static declaration of 'rtc_interrupt' follows non-static declaration Jul 26 21:29:03 koen: That sounds like a real problem... Jul 26 21:29:21 koen: Add static to the one missing it ;-) Jul 26 21:29:33 :) Jul 26 21:29:44 I'll do that tomorrow Jul 26 21:29:52 * koen sets of a build run Jul 26 21:30:04 'night all Jul 26 21:30:10 koen|away: distcc with your new gadgets? Jul 26 21:35:06 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * re59aa53b... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb): linux-oz-2.6.17: Promote to the default kernel in .dev. Fix a corgi compile problem and a broken ipaq patch Jul 26 21:35:12 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r98c9adc1... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): udev 092: Fix ARM inotify syscall Jul 26 21:35:17 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r3b9b571f... 10/ (1 classes/rootfs_ipk.bbclass packages/meta/package-index.bb): rootfs_ipk, package-index: Fix an error introduced in a previous commit - make sure the Packages file exists Jul 26 21:38:23 nite all Jul 26 21:41:59 exit Jul 26 22:59:12 Anyone seen this before? The error Im getting on the 6xx is Jul 26 22:59:12 hermes @ 0000f000: Timeout waiting for card to reset (reg=0x0123)! Jul 26 22:59:12 eth0: failed to initialize firmware (err = -110) Jul 26 22:59:12 orinoco_cs: register_netdev() failed Jul 26 22:59:25 doesnt happen on 7xx though Jul 26 23:11:16 what should I use to do monotone revert --missing in new monotone version? Jul 26 23:12:33 nevermind Jul 27 00:12:29 IS anyone using pcmcia-cs these days? Jul 27 00:21:18 Ken|Laptop: Hi Ken... I'm here now.. Jul 27 00:21:29 Ken|Laptop: No pcmcia for me. Jul 27 00:22:29 v8jlene, I cant get wifi working. Getting more and more frustrated with it Jul 27 00:24:43 Kristoffer: Your only having a problem on one platform though right? And works on others? PCMCIA in both cases? Jul 27 00:25:10 v8jlene, wifi doesnt work on hp 6xx, but works fine on 7xx and x86.. Jul 27 00:27:14 Kristoffer: Have you tried asking on the linux pcmcia list? I seem to remember someone on lkml also reporting that pcmcia wifi cards stopped working in 2.6.17. Jul 27 00:28:19 v8jlene, Havent had working pcmcia wifi since 2.6.13, but will drop them a mail. Strange that it affects only one platform though Jul 27 00:29:27 Kristoffer: Stange if it used to work before. I dunno anything about PCMCIA though, so can't offer much advice. Jul 27 00:30:09 v8jlene, think Im gonna do some logging of the kernel compilation and compair 7xx against 6xx. See if theres any warnings on 6xx, that doesnt appear on 7xx Jul 27 00:34:27 Hmmm, someone broke building rootfs images in the past few hours ;( Jul 27 00:34:44 v8jlene: ouchi Jul 27 00:40:27 False alarm... tmp/deploy/ipk/Packages was corrupted for some reason... Jul 27 00:41:43 v8jlene: ah Jul 27 00:53:58 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1ed87e59... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Jul 27 00:53:58 linux/linux-titan-sh4: Update for the kernel. Add a patch which Jul 27 00:53:58 enables scanning of pci function 1 even if function 0 doesn't exist. Jul 27 00:53:58 This is required if using the upgraded BIOS in which one of the Jul 27 00:53:58 ethernet cards is moved to function 1 and function 0 is wired up as a Jul 27 00:53:59 bus-master pass-through from one of the mini-pci slots. So without Jul 27 00:54:03 this patch you loose one of the lan interfaces when mini-pci slot A Jul 27 01:14:27 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rb00e4cd7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): emacs: split out el files into their own package, make bootstrap its own task, fix quoting in patch, add one more place to use QEMU Jul 27 01:17:58 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rcf3b33c2... 10/ (1 packages/emacs/files/use-qemu.patch): emacs: re-fix qemu patch Jul 27 02:26:26 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r5a0656b1... 10/ (1 packages/emacs/emacs_cvs.bb): emacs: add a note about the qemu version used **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 27 02:59:56 2006