**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 31 02:59:57 2006 Jul 31 04:21:17 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * rca63e8db... 10/ (1 packages/images/unslung-image.bb): Unslung image: clean up .dbg files left by changed RUNSTRIP functionality Jul 31 04:56:02 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * re55bcf63... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jul 31 04:56:02 Unslung: slingbox: added built-in fdisk support, but without the /bin/fdisk link Jul 31 04:56:02 so as not to overwrite the Linksys fdisk utility. Jul 31 05:21:02 03mwester 07org.oe.dev * r3c8fccf3... 10/ (1 packages/busybox/slingbox-1.1.3/defconfig): Unslung: slingbox defconfig added advanced fdisk options Jul 31 06:00:12 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rd7c49ce6... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): Jul 31 06:00:12 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: Jul 31 06:00:12 * special case glibc-intermediate till we solve the shlib problem Jul 31 06:00:12 * use ipkg with a package name instead of a file Jul 31 06:00:12 * rebuild the package-index each time Jul 31 06:00:12 * make filename checks less strict Jul 31 06:00:18 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rd073ff1e... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: introduce STAGING_BASEDIR and make use of it, per zecke's suggestion Jul 31 06:33:04 bonjour Jul 31 06:33:08 hey Genesis Jul 31 06:33:22 yop koen Jul 31 07:15:51 Does somebody know a reason why libgcc_s, libstdc++ and libg2c are not copied into a image? Jul 31 07:15:59 I use gcc-cross 3.3.4 Jul 31 07:17:49 Cobelius: only stuff that's explicitly specified and dependencies of that endup in the image Jul 31 07:19:32 okay, but the packages for these libraries don't get created. They directory are prepared but they are empty Jul 31 07:21:44 Hmn I took a look inside the gcc-cross 3.3.4 .bb File. It's different to the other one. Could it be that this version habe a bug or that mit .bb files are too old? Jul 31 07:26:40 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r7ccf2323... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gcc: make fortran switches behave like the java switches to battle the 'g++ disappeared' symptoms Jul 31 07:26:57 okay I found the problems my copies of the .bb files are too old Jul 31 07:28:05 morning Jul 31 07:29:19 hey XorA Jul 31 07:30:57 crap Jul 31 07:31:08 do_clean is a python method Jul 31 07:34:41 :-) Jul 31 07:34:57 those damn python people get code in everywhere Jul 31 07:35:03 which means I have to port my shell code to python Jul 31 07:35:32 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * rc0b5cc5b... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: add todo and invert some logic Jul 31 07:37:12 hey hrw|work Jul 31 07:37:15 morning after vacations Jul 31 07:37:37 "crap, my inbox is flooded with email"-day after vacations Jul 31 07:38:34 koen: :D Jul 31 07:38:36 hey hrw|work Jul 31 07:38:56 koen: when will ewi get monotone 0.28? Jul 31 07:39:25 koen@bitbake:~/OE/build$ mtn --version Jul 31 07:39:25 monotone 0.28 (base revision: 8c6ce7cb2ccd21290b435e042c2be4554ec6a048) Jul 31 07:39:30 last week :) Jul 31 07:39:59 koen: heh.. forgot about monotone -> mtn change... Jul 31 07:40:17 at home I got monotone == mtn Jul 31 07:40:31 ~lart APT pdiff support Jul 31 07:40:32 * ibot stuffs APT pdiff support into a shiny new tin can and vacuum seals it Jul 31 07:40:58 fixed Jul 31 07:40:59 koen@bitbake:~/OE/build$ monotone --version Jul 31 07:40:59 monotone 0.28 (base revision: 8c6ce7cb2ccd21290b435e042c2be4554ec6a048) Jul 31 07:41:07 gracias Jul 31 07:41:23 during week I will finish my migration Jul 31 07:41:55 where can I post changes I have made on standarf packages? Jul 31 07:42:28 Cobelius: bugtracker? Jul 31 07:42:29 Cobelius: bugs.openembedded.org Jul 31 07:42:36 thank you Jul 31 07:43:28 291M debian updates Jul 31 08:04:38 ~curse linux for creating zombies Jul 31 08:04:42 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, linux for creating zombies ! Jul 31 08:05:10 ~kill kdepim Jul 31 08:05:12 * ibot shoots a pseudoproton gun at kdepim Jul 31 08:06:22 brains....... Jul 31 08:07:05 1. start kdepim 2. kdepim goes into zombie mode 3. reboot to run kdepim Jul 31 08:09:08 good morning Jul 31 08:10:59 hey florian_kc Jul 31 08:11:17 hrw|work: welcome back! Jul 31 08:11:18 hrw|work: Linux in new XXXX of the Dead film :-) Jul 31 08:14:26 hey zecke Jul 31 08:19:19 morning all Jul 31 08:19:29 hey Dirk Jul 31 08:19:35 hi koen Jul 31 08:21:27 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r16d975b1... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: fix 'too many arguments' error Jul 31 08:23:30 zecke: 'bitbake tslib' now work with packaged-staging :) Jul 31 08:23:36 works* Jul 31 08:25:14 hi dirk Jul 31 08:25:33 hey Marcin Jul 31 08:25:41 well relaxed? Jul 31 08:26:10 koen: okay :) Jul 31 08:26:21 hmm anoncvs port is still firewalled :} Jul 31 08:26:21 do13_: yes Jul 31 08:26:43 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r1f7fefaa... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: use -force-depends till OE metadata gets fixed Jul 31 08:29:04 koen: hehe, why not fix the metadata :} Jul 31 08:29:35 zecke: I have no detect_stylus.bb in my tree Jul 31 08:29:47 zecke: and it seems bitbake is broken :( Jul 31 08:30:00 sure, but in which way? Jul 31 08:30:01 zecke: it doesn't build the RDEPENDS in tslib Jul 31 08:30:12 ah Jul 31 08:30:17 do you have BUILD_ALL_DEPS set? Jul 31 08:30:20 'bitbake nano' sort of works as well Jul 31 08:30:22 zecke: yes Jul 31 08:30:43 * koen wonders why arm binaries are in /media/hda4/OE/build/tmp-new/angstrom/staging/i686-linux/bin Jul 31 08:30:53 * zecke fights bittest today Jul 31 08:31:39 that looks wrong Jul 31 08:31:52 do you pass a wrong dir to ipkg? Jul 31 08:32:41 zecke: i suspect a more subtle bug Jul 31 08:33:06 like a BUILD_CC that picks a cross gcc Jul 31 08:34:08 zecke: needs cleanup, but check out http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/poky/branches/ticket8/patch.bbclass Jul 31 08:34:49 kergoth: documentation could help :) Jul 31 08:35:14 aye, its a first pass Jul 31 08:35:26 doing testing + cleanup + docu now Jul 31 08:35:43 kergoth: that SRC_OPTS thing you mentioned looks nice as well Jul 31 08:36:03 yea just playing around, i never liked how ${S} was the implicit patch application point. SRC_OPTS would be more explicit Jul 31 08:36:09 kergoth: btw, bugs.o-hand.com errors out Jul 31 08:36:22 SRC_OPTS looks hard to understand Jul 31 08:37:11 zecke: http://kergoth.com/patchsyntaxpossibilities.inc Jul 31 08:37:16 in case you missed it Jul 31 08:38:12 kergoth: I think I like it (patch.bbclass) Jul 31 08:38:21 koen: well too many '|' for my taste Jul 31 08:38:31 well, its just a seperator that isnt likely to be used by something else Jul 31 08:38:34 feel free to pick another Jul 31 08:38:47 the idea is whats important, the explicit rules for unpack/patch Jul 31 08:39:06 zecke: still no .la and .pc troubles :) Jul 31 08:39:10 zecke: the resolver class needs work, but it should open up more possibilities for more intelligent responses to patch application failure Jul 31 08:39:15 (readline, flex) Jul 31 08:39:28 koen: hmm. take a look at the .la files Jul 31 08:39:35 koen: do they have installed = yes in them? Jul 31 08:40:08 yes Jul 31 08:40:16 that is a bug :) Jul 31 08:40:26 (well you installed them, but....) Jul 31 08:40:46 it's easy enough to sed it out :) Jul 31 08:40:56 kergoth: BTW. I have looked at your Buildsystem page Jul 31 08:41:01 you found it? Jul 31 08:41:13 kergoth: and I'm in the process of finding someone to migrate the pages... Jul 31 08:41:14 where was it, in the old wiki files somewhere? Jul 31 08:41:27 kergoth: in 'our' backup of the moin wiki Jul 31 08:41:28 zecke: I have a perl script that does the gruntwork Jul 31 08:41:35 cool Jul 31 08:41:51 zecke: mm2mw.pl in ~/ Jul 31 08:41:55 kergoth: I'm trying to get a student trainee assigned for that Jul 31 08:41:56 the page wasnt exactly rocket science, but i think it was a good summary of the most common problems Jul 31 08:42:00 hehe Jul 31 08:42:02 kergoth: but two of three are on holidays Jul 31 08:42:24 koen: and I have pointed you to the script ;) Jul 31 08:42:51 yes Jul 31 08:43:02 people point me lots of things and forget about it ;) Jul 31 08:43:09 cross your fingers that this one student isn't too busy Jul 31 08:43:33 koen: I wasn't stoned when I pointed you to it, so chanches are good I remember Jul 31 08:43:40 hmm, I wasn't stoned for ages :} Jul 31 08:43:42 * kergoth is quite enjoying playing with bb and oe again Jul 31 08:43:57 in case anyone is wondering: the wiki backup is in ~/wiki/data/text/ Jul 31 08:44:03 you do need a login for that :) Jul 31 08:46:29 hmm Jul 31 08:46:39 I've been busy for 4 hours without breakfast Jul 31 08:46:43 * koen -> food Jul 31 08:53:42 meeting Jul 31 09:12:43 morning all Jul 31 09:14:14 hey rp Jul 31 09:15:16 hey RP Jul 31 09:15:42 hey Richard Jul 31 09:16:23 Just for reference, I'm not going to be around much over the next few days and won't be online at all at the end of the week Jul 31 09:17:36 RP: have a nice vacation :) Jul 31 09:18:03 RP: enjoy your bike :) Jul 31 09:18:11 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r60479b80... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb): linux-oz-2.6: Fix a compile issue with the asoc patch Jul 31 09:18:46 Its Cadwell so the bike featrues rather heavily in the plans :) Jul 31 09:19:29 Everything that could go wrong, is going wrong though... Jul 31 09:20:33 I'll deal with the -dbg packages issues when I get back if nobody has done so before then Jul 31 09:20:34 murphy sucks Jul 31 09:20:48 my box is crashing at random Jul 31 09:20:52 no idea as to the cause Jul 31 09:21:02 but it makes doing anything, fun or work, a pain in the ass Jul 31 09:21:04 :( Jul 31 09:22:08 One broken van, one incomplete trailer, one car with a potential MOT issue and one critically ill relative don't make a good weekend :-/ Jul 31 09:22:51 kergoth: That is no fun. At times like that I'd be tempted to cut losses and replace the guts of it :-( Jul 31 09:23:47 I'm neglecting minor issues like fire extingusihers exploding over me multiple times :) Jul 31 09:24:20 RP: do you prefer foo.dbg packages or a .debug dir? Jul 31 09:25:04 koen: We'll have to switch to .debug dir Jul 31 09:25:13 koen: I switched poky over but haven't tested yet Jul 31 09:25:20 I noticed that :) Jul 31 09:25:30 hey mikearthur Jul 31 09:25:44 koen: Basically someone needs to try the changes in poky and apply them to OE. Or perhaps I should just apply the change to OE? Jul 31 09:25:56 RP: I was trying to save your some work by merging in poky bits, but I failed Jul 31 09:26:26 koen: Out of interest what was the biggest stumbling block? Jul 31 09:26:42 my grasp of OE/bitbake internals Jul 31 09:27:09 koen: Ah :-/ Jul 31 09:27:11 RP: feel free to apply the .debug change, otherwise we'll see more of this: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=ca63e8dbe358555c180ef8474bff224dd3b408fa Jul 31 09:27:25 RP: OE needs to switch to base_contains :) Jul 31 09:27:48 hey mikearthur Jul 31 09:27:55 g'day Jul 31 09:28:01 koen: that one should be harmless to add :) Jul 31 09:33:58 hey mallum Jul 31 09:34:46 hey ko Jul 31 09:34:49 en Jul 31 09:35:53 hey Jul 31 09:36:05 hey tkp Jul 31 09:36:22 this is a little strange... after building evas-x11, I see the message "Packaged contents of evas-x11-examples into /home/tom/stv/oe-stv/build/tmp/deploy/ipk/libevas-examples_0.9.9.027-r7_i586.ipk" Jul 31 09:36:49 yet when building my image which has evas-x11-examples in RDEPENDS, I get "| ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for stv-devextras: Jul 31 09:36:49 | evas-x11-examples" Jul 31 09:37:04 brb Jul 31 09:37:20 tkp: LIBevas-examples Jul 31 09:38:03 really?? Jul 31 09:38:05 Something in the debian.bbclass code screwed up. Rebuild the the task file containing that package so its name gets corrected Jul 31 09:38:21 * RP needs to finish the depends code rewrite :-/ Jul 31 09:38:37 RP: was that hint for me? Jul 31 09:38:42 tkp: yes Jul 31 09:39:01 ok... was gonna say... t always used to work as "evas-x11-examples" Jul 31 09:39:45 It will - bitbake should normally know how to correct the name but some dependency ordering failed somewhere Jul 31 09:40:03 hmm Jul 31 09:40:15 I spot a flaw in our .la handling Jul 31 09:40:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-pattern Jul 31 09:40:29 the .la files we ship contain references to the stagingdir Jul 31 09:40:40 ok, yeah, worked fine after rebuilding the task file Jul 31 09:40:43 koen: they do? Jul 31 09:40:44 koen: They shouldn't... Jul 31 09:40:48 koen: that is a flaw Jul 31 09:40:49 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rd7cc6ec7... 10/ (1 classes/package.bbclass conf/bitbake.conf): Change -dbg objects to use .debug directory. Fixes various FILES issues. Jul 31 09:41:07 koen: and this is why you don't see the bugs I wanted to see Jul 31 09:41:22 RP, zecke: base.bbclass does s/WORKDIR/STAGINGDIR/ Jul 31 09:43:45 __runcmd sed -e 's/^installed=yes$/installed=no/' -e '/^dependency_libs=/s,${WORKDIR}[[:alnum:]/\._+-]*/\([[:alnum:]\._+-]*\),${STAGING_LIBDIR}/\1,g' $dotlai >$destpath/$libname.la Jul 31 09:44:25 * koen forgets about that for a moment and moves to packaging cross/ Jul 31 09:48:14 koen: For that changeset link, I just get an error about the database being locked Jul 31 09:52:24 RP the changelog is "Unslung image: clean up .dbg files left by changed RUNSTRIP functionality" Jul 31 09:53:22 ah, it's working again: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=ca63e8dbe358555c180ef8474bff224dd3b408fa Jul 31 09:56:24 03zecke123 * r558 10bitbake_qa/ (. lib/bittest/testreport_tinder.py): Jul 31 09:56:24 r492@sause: ich | 2006-07-31 12:11:29 +0200 Jul 31 09:56:24 bitbake_qa/lib/bittest/testreport_tinder.py: Pass the test name as part of the tindermachine, implement sending the results Jul 31 09:56:24 Pass the test name as part of TINDER_MACHINE and implement sending of the report. We Jul 31 09:56:24 will fail the build if one test failed otherwise we will send a '100' Jul 31 09:56:29 koen: Ah, right. That code can be removed now as we have a different set of issues :) Jul 31 09:56:36 * RP - back later Jul 31 10:29:56 tslib-cvs is borked Jul 31 10:30:52 temp/log.do_patchcleancmd.9804 has a syntax error, apparenty Jul 31 10:31:24 sorry Jul 31 10:31:25 temp/run.do_patchcleancmd.9804 Jul 31 10:33:24 oh, still connected ;-) Jul 31 10:33:26 mikearthur: moved quilt around? Jul 31 10:33:39 nope? Jul 31 10:33:43 mikearthur: anyway, feel free to pastebin the log Jul 31 10:33:48 sure Jul 31 10:34:02 can i use oe to build for the original zaurus rom? or in my case the cacko rom? Jul 31 10:36:08 zecke: http://pastebin.ca/108203 Jul 31 10:36:41 mikearthur: what about looking at the line in question? Jul 31 10:36:48 looks wierd to me Jul 31 10:36:52 but I'm no bash scripting pro Jul 31 10:36:57 mikearthur: and your DISTRO is invalid Jul 31 10:37:39 what should it be? Jul 31 10:37:56 mikearthur: DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4.1" Jul 31 10:38:15 mikearthur: echo conf/distro for valid ones Jul 31 10:38:23 cheers koen Jul 31 10:38:29 OE does 'include conf/distro/${DISTRO}.conf' Jul 31 10:38:41 zecke: ts-bb.data.getVar("ZKERNEL_VERSION", d, 1).conf Jul 31 10:38:49 thats the part of the line it seems to be spitting on Jul 31 10:39:14 woops Jul 31 10:39:16 install -m 0644 /home/mike/oe/tosa/tmp/work/tslib-0.0cvs20060102-r40/ts-bb.data.getVar("ZKERNEL_VERSION", d, 1).conf /home/mike/oe/tosa/tmp/work/tslib-0.0cvs20060102-r40/image/usr/share/tslib/ts.conf Jul 31 10:39:50 mikearthur: do you have set ZKERNEL_VERSION_tosa ? Jul 31 10:40:52 ZKERNEL_VERSION, yeh Jul 31 10:40:57 ZKERNEL_VERSION_tosa, no Jul 31 10:41:38 mikearthur: Use DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4.1" Jul 31 10:41:52 do13_: thats already set Jul 31 10:42:35 mikearthur: no it is not! Jul 31 10:42:40 mikearthur: check your log! Jul 31 10:43:02 zecke: what isn't? Jul 31 10:43:09 koen, does utime() work wirg your eabi glibc? Jul 31 10:43:45 nchip: haven't tried that Jul 31 10:44:00 mikearthur: your logs says: DISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.4" Jul 31 10:44:03 mikearthur: specify existing DISTRO and MACHINE files and you are right Jul 31 10:44:20 do13_: I meant it was already set Jul 31 10:44:43 koen: http://youtube.com/watch?v=j02b8Fuz73A Jul 31 10:44:45 just not to your value :) Jul 31 10:45:06 nchip: any specific testcase? Jul 31 10:45:18 koen: busybox touch Jul 31 10:49:39 zecke: now qemu-native won't build Jul 31 10:49:46 logs again? Jul 31 10:51:36 mikearthur: no. I suspect your local.conf is still full of errors :) Jul 31 10:51:37 nchip: http://rafb.net/paste/results/I8i29A41.html Jul 31 10:51:48 zecke: want to see my local.conf then instead? Jul 31 10:52:20 mikearthur: not now, I'm watching the NeXTstep video Jul 31 10:52:26 ok, np Jul 31 10:53:13 schurig: hey Jul 31 10:53:17 schurig: do you like mtn 0.28? Jul 31 10:53:42 zecke|food: not sure. Have only today downlaoded the OE.mtn and only done one update Jul 31 10:53:55 koen: Hi! Can ask a quick question? Building gcc-cross for armv5te target. libgcc is still packaged with just "arm" arch. Is that correct? Jul 31 10:54:05 zecke: if it's usable, I'm probably resurrect my MTN key :-) Jul 31 10:54:13 * schurig hopes that he still knows his password Jul 31 10:54:27 psokolovsky: I suspect that's a bug Jul 31 10:54:51 psokolovsky: check if it contains armv5 isns like clz or bx Jul 31 10:55:20 koen: metoo. Could you look at what you have in your recent h2200 angstrom build? Jul 31 10:55:59 psokolovsky: EABI is armv5 only, so the bug doesn't matter there Jul 31 10:58:17 koen: So, actual .so does contain bx/clz. But why package arch is such? Jul 31 10:59:09 psokolovsky: some .inc in the gcc sets it that way Jul 31 10:59:16 which I think is a bug Jul 31 10:59:24 zecke|food: mikearthur.co.uk whenever you have a minute Jul 31 10:59:58 koen: ok. just want to be sure it at least not my setup issue. thanks Jul 31 11:00:20 psokolovsky: could you file a bug about that in bugs.openembedded.org? Jul 31 11:00:29 koen: ok Jul 31 11:01:06 if anyone gets a chance to look at my local.conf, that zecke thinks is full of errors, I'd be grateful Jul 31 11:01:20 http://mikearthur.co.uk/local.conf Jul 31 11:02:02 mikearthur: You don't have permission to access /local.conf on this server. Jul 31 11:02:55 woops Jul 31 11:04:29 mikearthur: now it works Jul 31 11:05:21 mikearthur: do you need both IPKs and TAR files? INHERIT = "package_ipk" / INHERIT = "package_tar" ??? Jul 31 11:05:53 mikearthur: but that's not an error Jul 31 11:06:17 I don't know, iirc, this config is based off someone elses Jul 31 11:06:45 mikearthur: yeah, but copying stuff doesn't mean that you don't need to think :-) Jul 31 11:07:11 schurig: to be honest, I've only really been using oe for a few weeks, and don't really understand a lot :s Jul 31 11:07:38 mikearthur: then just keep asking Jul 31 11:07:51 I just feel a bit bad asking all the time :( Jul 31 11:08:23 mikearthur: you probably know that OE/bitbake just downloads sources, patches them, cross-compiles them and installs libs/headers into staging and binaries into installable packages (grossly simplified) Jul 31 11:08:47 yeh, I used portage on gentoo for a while, which its pretty similar to Jul 31 11:08:56 koen: ok, thanks, looks like busted kernel-headers here Jul 31 11:08:58 mikearthur: now, if you want to mimick the OpenZaurus distributions, with is IPK based, you want to have the class "package_ipk" inherited (applied to all *.bb files) Jul 31 11:09:54 mikearthur: package_tar is mostly only needed by people which have distros without *.ipk packages, e.g. ROM based things Jul 31 11:10:01 ok Jul 31 11:10:10 mikearthur: you can remove the INHERIT lines, these is done in openzaurus.conf Jul 31 11:10:15 ok thanks Jul 31 11:11:20 schurig: hey, how's it going? Jul 31 11:11:42 kergoth: fine, just came back to work from holiday. You're still awake ?!? Jul 31 11:12:08 kergoth: and how are you? Job and family good? Jul 31 11:12:29 working for openedhand.com nowadays, i'm always up late to have some overlap with all the folks in the UK Jul 31 11:12:33 quite good, yeah Jul 31 11:12:40 what are you doing for work nowadays? Jul 31 11:12:52 mikearthur: please change ZKERNEL_VERSION_tosa = "2.6" in conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf Jul 31 11:13:23 ok, I can't just change it in my local.conf then? Jul 31 11:14:54 kergoth: still working at M&N Solutions, making sure our terminals for Transportation and Logistics work well Jul 31 11:15:08 mikearthur: I'm not quite sure. Jul 31 11:15:21 its ok, I'll add it anyway :) Jul 31 11:15:26 schurig: ah, cool Jul 31 11:15:27 kergoth: recently worked for 4 days on a "Port WinCE to our device" project, made the M$ e-boot run on our RT4000 Jul 31 11:15:33 hows your family? Jul 31 11:17:05 kergoth: very fine. And my two daughters as well. Natalie goes to Kindergarten really soon, and Sarah now can walk since two weeks and starts to speak (just being 14 months old). They are cute, funny and lovely. Jul 31 11:17:08 mikearthur: also you can remove PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel = .. in your local.conf Jul 31 11:17:32 aww :) Jul 31 11:18:02 I had to add that to get it to build Jul 31 11:19:32 mikearthur: i'm neither using the OpenZaurus distro nor Zaurii, but probably do13_' tipp with the ZKERNEL_VERSION_tosa = "2.6" makes this PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/kernel obsolete Jul 31 11:19:43 ah ok Jul 31 11:19:47 yep Jul 31 11:19:54 cool Jul 31 11:20:31 mikearthur: I also think that you don Jul 31 11:20:55 that you don't need the PREFERRED_PROVIDERS for gcc, g++ etc, because that stuff is usually in conf/distro/*.conf files Jul 31 11:21:23 do13: but again, take this with a grain of salt, I have a very different OE environment running here Jul 31 11:22:16 :) Jul 31 11:23:08 mikearthur: I have never used PARALLEL_MAKE in my local.conf. I don't know If this breaks some packages Jul 31 11:23:36 ok, thanks guys, taking this all in :) Jul 31 11:23:44 mikearthur: when you MACHINE = "xxx", then bitbake includes conf/machine/xxx.conf. If that file says then DISTRO = "yyy", then bitbake ready conf/distro/yyy.conf. Therefore you don't need to specify anything in your local.conf that those files specify anyway .... EXCEPT if you fear that some OE repository update changes them under your nose and you want to make sure to pin some variables to some known value. Jul 31 11:24:21 but that happens mostly if you select some "unstable" distro via DISTRO= ... Jul 31 11:24:41 aye, ok Jul 31 11:26:31 mikearthur: your Jul 31 11:26:31 PREFERRED_PROVIDERS are duplicated in openzaurus-3.5.4.conf which is included via openzaurus-3.5.4.conf Jul 31 11:26:53 ok Jul 31 11:27:04 argh via openzaurus-3.5.4.1.conf Jul 31 11:30:47 hi mickey|thesis Jul 31 11:30:59 morning folks Jul 31 11:31:01 hey pb_ Jul 31 11:31:06 hi mickey|thesis Jul 31 11:31:08 pb_: how was your vacation? Jul 31 11:32:10 morning re Jul 31 11:32:14 reenoo, even Jul 31 11:32:42 can someone kick the handhelds.org mailserver? I'm afraid it's stuck since yesterday Jul 31 11:32:59 afternoon Jul 31 11:33:01 moin mickey|thesis Jul 31 11:34:09 mickey|thesis: hi Jul 31 11:34:20 ~lart meetings Jul 31 11:34:21 * ibot offers meetings some herring Jul 31 11:37:43 03koen 07org.oe.packaged-staging * r33e98cf0... 10/ (1 classes/packaged-staging.bbclass): classes/packaged-staging.bbclass: fix .la files per zecke's suggestion Jul 31 11:37:52 03koen 07org.oe.dev * racd8498e... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): akita, spitz, ipaq-pxa270: accept iwmmxt binaries Jul 31 11:39:43 does qemu 0.7x compile with gcc 4? Jul 31 11:40:01 mikearthur: no Jul 31 11:40:17 genius, no wonder it isn't working Jul 31 11:40:29 koen: that change is in angstrom? oz? unslung? Jul 31 11:40:30 building qemu-native will use my system compiler, eh? Jul 31 11:41:18 yes Jul 31 11:41:22 hrw|work: what change? Jul 31 11:41:30 31 13:59 < CIA-9> koen org.oe.dev * racd8498e... / (4 files in 2 dirs): akita, spitz, ipaq-pxa270: Jul 31 11:41:35 that one Jul 31 11:41:48 ~oe.db Jul 31 11:41:55 methinks oe.db is http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.db.bz2 Jul 31 11:41:59 hrw|work: conf/machine/ Jul 31 11:42:47 ibot: no, oe.db is http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.mtn.bz2 Jul 31 11:42:49 hrw|work: okay Jul 31 11:43:42 koen: should not it be part of distro policy? OZ/softfloat does not allow to use iwmmxt iirc... Jul 31 11:44:18 hrw|work: it does allow staticly linked iwwmxt binaries Jul 31 11:45:07 ~oe.mtn Jul 31 11:45:31 koen: user will build oz-unstable from .dev (softfloat) for akita. ipkg will allow him to install iwmmxt package (not static one) which will not work. where is an error? Jul 31 11:45:39 ibot: oe.mtn is http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE.mtn.bz2 Jul 31 11:45:40 okay, schurig Jul 31 11:46:11 schurig: is ibot a bot? Jul 31 11:46:16 ~ibot Jul 31 11:46:18 i heard ibot is a blootbot written in perl run by TimRiker on his server. logs on http://ibot.rikers.org// , ibot, jbot, apt are all the same process. It uses sqlite, but mysql or other SQL storage is also supported. Jul 31 11:46:22 ibot: who are you? Jul 31 11:46:24 it seems quite clever Jul 31 11:46:25 mikearthur: yes, try /msg ibot help Jul 31 11:46:26 koen: what are you talking about? Jul 31 11:46:42 ibot: herring mikearthur Jul 31 11:46:44 * ibot whacks mikearthur on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred Jul 31 11:46:53 mikearthur: quite clever indeed :) Jul 31 11:47:22 Alfred E. Neumann? Jul 31 11:48:39 hahaha Jul 31 11:48:47 just read the most overdramatic comment on slashdot Jul 31 11:49:00 "The more you tighten your grip on the galaxy, the more star systems will slip through your fingers!" Jul 31 11:49:12 that, in reference to not letting kids choose their own lunches! Jul 31 12:03:42 re Jul 31 12:49:07 http://www.hjreggel.net/cardspeed/index.html Jul 31 12:51:05 hrw|work: http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/multi_page.asp?cid=6007 Jul 31 12:57:06 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=85&logfile=20060731144254.log Jul 31 12:57:13 BitTest can report to the tinderbox as well Jul 31 12:57:23 mickey|thesis: please take a look at the python 'error' Jul 31 13:03:48 hail zecke Jul 31 13:04:11 mickey|thesis: very good, thanks. bit of a surfeit of children, but apart from that it was perfect. Jul 31 13:14:19 pb_: hey Jul 31 13:14:39 pb_: when will your DisplayMigration be merged into Gtk+? Jul 31 13:16:15 No space left on device: Can't close file '/svnroot/repos/bitbake/db/transactions/558-1.txn/node.0.0': No space left on device Jul 31 13:16:23 wtf, berlios went out of disk Jul 31 13:34:35 2989 root 0 -10 288m 251m 4980 S 2.3 33.2 7:40.97 Xorg Jul 31 13:35:04 each day I feel that 768M ram is very low amount... Jul 31 13:35:14 hrw|work: I had a good one the other day.. famd taking 103% CPU according to top Jul 31 13:35:38 NAbyss: fam is evil Jul 31 13:35:40 hi Rene Jul 31 13:36:04 firefox 2.0b1 is evil Jul 31 13:36:15 Yes, fam is definitely evil Jul 31 13:36:29 fam is useless Jul 31 13:36:33 zecke: mm, dunno. I think the gtk+ dudes don't like it very much Jul 31 13:36:34 hi woglinde Jul 31 13:36:46 hi reenoo{_} Jul 31 13:36:46 even under irix I dont see any comfort in using it Jul 31 13:36:50 he pb Jul 31 13:38:41 hey pb_ Jul 31 13:39:00 hi renno Jul 31 13:39:09 hey woglinde Jul 31 13:46:06 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r158d7fcc... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Jul 31 13:46:06 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Addition of RDEPENDS for bootstrap-image Jul 31 13:46:06 * orinoco_conf hotplug-ng Jul 31 13:46:06 initscripts/initscripts-1.0/jornada7xx/devices : Change to a better list Jul 31 13:46:06 * Changed device list to a more 7xx relevant list. Jul 31 13:51:32 hi Jul 31 13:56:36 pb_: that sounds like they are a bunch of morons? Jul 31 13:56:36 busybox 1.2.0 doesn't support "ps ax". lol. Jul 31 13:56:48 pb_: any reasons why they don't like it? Jul 31 14:18:06 maybe they prefer libgamin over libfam Jul 31 14:18:16 ~nslookup feeds.openzaurus.org Jul 31 14:18:18 I can't find feeds.openzaurus.org in DNS Jul 31 14:18:38 hi hrw :) Jul 31 14:19:34 zecke: I don't remember exactly. I think there was some discussion on the xdg-list; you can probably find it in the archives. Jul 31 14:20:16 pb_: hmm, I think I came across them already Jul 31 14:20:30 pb_: I will present your work at akademy and say it was mine :} Jul 31 14:20:48 heh :-) Jul 31 14:20:51 feel free Jul 31 14:22:24 pb_: Seriously. As part of my talk I will demonstrate Xephyr and GPE using displaymigration Jul 31 14:22:33 pb_: so I will bother you about key generation etc. Jul 31 14:22:38 zecke which talk? Jul 31 14:23:09 woglinde: "KDE and Consumer Electronics - The lost momentum" Jul 31 14:23:20 zecke: okay, no problem Jul 31 14:25:50 zecke hm achso Jul 31 14:26:35 my ranting/bashing on the incest of technology Jul 31 14:26:55 yes bashing and ranting you got a A+ Jul 31 14:26:59 an Jul 31 14:27:17 +for Jul 31 14:27:18 hrms Jul 31 14:27:24 woglinde: :) Jul 31 14:27:52 RDEPENDS does not make sense for native packages or does it? Jul 31 14:27:52 woglinde: I will try to improve my on-stage ranting skills Jul 31 14:28:00 shouldn't we auto-zap RDEPENDS in native.bbclass ? Jul 31 14:28:14 hm args ich muss mal beim imma amt anrufen warum ich meinen unterlagen noch nicht habe Jul 31 14:28:17 mickey|thesis: it 'does' Jul 31 14:28:31 woglinde: I don't have mine as well Jul 31 14:28:31 * mickey|thesis leans back to enjoy the explanation Jul 31 14:28:47 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r60557e20... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Jul 31 14:28:47 python-pyrex-native 0.9.3 zap RDEPENDS Jul 31 14:28:47 python-scons-native 0.9.96.90 zap RDEPENDS Jul 31 14:28:54 zecke oh okay Jul 31 14:29:18 mickey|thesis: Because bitbake doesn't know about native packages :) Jul 31 14:29:43 mickey|thesis: and it helped us to define a clear requirement of to be installed software Jul 31 14:31:04 hmm... then how about transforming all foo dependencies to foo-native when inheriting native ? Jul 31 14:31:18 i just don't like redundancy Jul 31 14:31:43 (apart from the fact that -native packages are inherently a redundancy, but that's a different story) Jul 31 14:33:33 mickey|thesis: we had a automatic replace but decided against it Jul 31 14:33:56 zecke: oh did we? i must have missed that. what were the reasons to abandon it? Jul 31 14:34:45 mickey|thesis: more clear definition of to be required software Jul 31 14:35:00 mickey|thesis: and the automatic replace has one issue (order of manipulation of the variable) Jul 31 14:35:29 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=87&logfile=20060731153842.log Jul 31 14:36:21 2989 root 0 -10 528m 369m 3388 S 16.0 48.8 11:30.66 Xorg Jul 31 14:36:25 WTF? Jul 31 14:36:46 That's some serious memory usage. Jul 31 14:38:06 mickeyl have we a now a date for the meeting? Jul 31 14:38:42 1600000 819 35 1 4588 140 445759K 24K 445783K 14835 Bon Echo Beta 1 [2006073004] Jul 31 14:38:46 argh Jul 31 14:39:13 firefox took 445M for pixmaps Jul 31 14:39:46 woglinde: If I know the date ~3 weeks in advance I can print some shirts Jul 31 14:40:14 koen: 5.,6.,7.,8. october Jul 31 14:40:31 woglinde: no, i guess you would first inquire the uni? Jul 31 14:40:50 mickeyl no I would ask the huette e.v. Jul 31 14:41:02 the rooms seems nice and have dsl connection Jul 31 14:41:05 woglinde: how would we finance that? Jul 31 14:41:09 zecke: 5-8.10.2006 sounds ok for me Jul 31 14:41:30 mickeyl there wasnt price list on the website Jul 31 14:41:38 hm I will call them tommorow Jul 31 14:41:58 koen: would 5.-10. work for you, too? Jul 31 14:42:04 nah Jul 31 14:42:07 5.-8. 10. Jul 31 14:42:09 hrw okay :) Jul 31 14:50:04 mallum: could you please force RP to be in Berlin from the 5th to the 9th? Jul 31 14:50:09 of october Jul 31 14:53:14 zecke: whats going on in Berlin ? Jul 31 14:53:43 mallum: we plan to 'host' a small OE get-together Jul 31 14:55:25 OEDEM Jul 31 14:55:33 OpenEmbedded Developers European Meeting Jul 31 14:55:35 *cough* Jul 31 14:56:12 lol Jul 31 14:56:23 zecke: i thought ibot was the 'enforcer' Jul 31 14:56:29 ibot: make RP be in Berlin Jul 31 14:56:31 make: *** No rule to make target `RP be in Berlin'. Stop. Jul 31 14:56:34 zecke: cool :) Hopefully RP wants to go ? Jul 31 14:56:53 dunno, I figured if you force him he will come anyway Jul 31 14:56:58 and eventually he will enjoy it Jul 31 14:57:20 zecke: Id be surprised if he didn't want to go Jul 31 14:57:44 morning Jul 31 14:57:52 mallum: OEDEM slowly starts shaping Jul 31 14:58:12 "I do not want to go, mallum." "You have to!" :D Jul 31 14:58:18 hehe Jul 31 14:58:22 OEDEBBQ sound better imho ;) Jul 31 14:58:41 that's true Jul 31 14:58:44 how about OEDEPP Jul 31 14:58:46 well if RP isn't coming, who will do the work while we party? Jul 31 14:58:50 PP being Pool Party Jul 31 14:58:58 zecke/woglinde: I will be alone - without Ania Jul 31 14:59:14 hrw hm Jul 31 14:59:17 accomodation is a another issue :) Jul 31 14:59:19 zecke: judging from comments in #oe, it looks like CIA does most of the work already Jul 31 14:59:22 dont she have time hrw? Jul 31 14:59:32 zecke: shouldn't matter too much, if a few people more or less, aren't about Jul 31 14:59:36 I think I could host 2-3 and al might host one more Jul 31 14:59:48 woglinde: time is one thing. being bored on developer meeting is another Jul 31 15:00:08 hrw hm she can shop Jul 31 15:00:14 * zecke is wondering why svn needs ages to move the OE dir... Jul 31 15:00:14 in the city Jul 31 15:00:32 visit the television tower and other cutural stuffs Jul 31 15:00:59 woglinde: I won't declare "television tower" as cultural stuff :) Jul 31 15:01:10 heh Jul 31 15:01:11 woglinde: specially because there is no television in "culture" Jul 31 15:01:12 then s/other// :) Jul 31 15:01:28 Thats funny - because in our german class, one of the first landmarks in Berlin we learned about was the television tower Jul 31 15:01:31 zecke its the tower Jul 31 15:01:35 zecke, no, there is no culture on tv, not the other way around :) Jul 31 15:01:50 cosmic hm we actually have 2 Jul 31 15:01:58 two cultures? Jul 31 15:02:00 funkturm and fernsehturm Jul 31 15:02:10 raduga ni two towers Jul 31 15:02:13 raduga: yes. East and West Berlin Jul 31 15:02:24 woglinde, isn't funkturn - radio? Jul 31 15:02:26 Which one has the resturant on it? Jul 31 15:02:28 one looks like the eifel tower Jul 31 15:02:40 turm too Jul 31 15:02:50 zecke: oh, that's right. I guess if you get bored with the TV tower, you can go to the Wall, and shout defiant words at the Communists Jul 31 15:02:51 cosmic fernsehturm which is roatating Jul 31 15:02:57 or, um. maybe you can't do that anymore Jul 31 15:03:03 woglinde: ok - yeah, thats the one I've heard of Jul 31 15:03:16 cosmic :) Jul 31 15:03:33 hrw|work: It is good that ania stays away from developer meetings, but maybe al and ania get along and go out and enjoy berlin? Jul 31 15:03:56 raduga: well, you could try, but you would have to be able to shout very loudly in chineese :) Jul 31 15:04:13 or korean Jul 31 15:04:23 zecke: once again: who is al? Jul 31 15:04:41 hvontres: well, if you were going to do that, you'd probably be standing at a different Wall Jul 31 15:04:42 or you cold turn around and try Cuban...:) Jul 31 15:04:49 hrw|work: Al(exandra) my 'gal' Jul 31 15:05:20 zecke: gal == fiancee? Jul 31 15:05:25 lol Jul 31 15:05:30 or? Jul 31 15:05:44 hehe, yes Jul 31 15:06:12 mickey|thesis: 5-10 okt shouldn't be a problem Jul 31 15:06:17 .o(zecke has all the money) Jul 31 15:06:28 lol Jul 31 15:06:36 woglinde: which money? Jul 31 15:06:52 woglinde: for the weekend we might get the conference room at ROAD Jul 31 15:06:52 *g* Jul 31 15:06:59 zecke hm Jul 31 15:07:20 zecke that would be nice Jul 31 15:07:38 woglinde: and I hope the BMCO moves into a new "Mitte" office Jul 31 15:07:46 woglinde and we might have rooms available as well Jul 31 15:07:56 oh rosenthaler strasse? Jul 31 15:08:01 woglinde: lol Jul 31 15:08:16 woglinde: Some of us here do not want to work in Ex-Convergence rooms Jul 31 15:09:21 koen: cool! Jul 31 15:09:37 okay than I will send Jul 31 15:09:42 ~lart berlios Jul 31 15:09:43 * ibot overclocks berlios until berlios burns out Jul 31 15:09:47 an email to our university stuff Jul 31 15:11:15 anyone here getting mail from oe@hh.org, oe-commits? I'm not getting anything since weekend Jul 31 15:11:33 mickey|thesis,zecke: tell me the name (OEDEM/OEBBQ/OEPP) and I'll have the shirts printed Jul 31 15:11:36 psokolsvsky I notice this too Jul 31 15:11:48 koen something wrong with the ml? Jul 31 15:11:49 psokolovsky: hh.org is being broken like every week Jul 31 15:11:59 i think OEDEM sounds the most professional and it's actually a word play in german as well Jul 31 15:12:05 woglinde: thanks, glad? to know it's not me only Jul 31 15:12:09 although an Ödem is something that you shouldn't have :D Jul 31 15:12:23 ok, now need to ping someone Jul 31 15:12:25 mickey|thesis: and it is? Jul 31 15:12:33 mickey|thesis: a massing of fluids, right? Jul 31 15:12:53 (if it's the same as the dutch 'oedeem' Jul 31 15:12:54 right. massing of fluids in the skin. if you have it in the eye, you can get blind Jul 31 15:12:54 ) Jul 31 15:14:42 Edema in englsh I think Jul 31 15:15:12 XorA: babelfish say same Jul 31 15:16:46 hehe Jul 31 15:18:08 hi all Jul 31 15:18:17 hi mr_nice Jul 31 15:18:29 hi woglinde Jul 31 15:18:35 oh the -B option of gcc rocks Jul 31 15:23:56 zecke: that would allow arm-linux-gcc to call gcc? Jul 31 15:24:57 koen: that allows me to put mvista toolchains anywhere I want Jul 31 15:25:04 "This option specifies where to find the executables, libraries, Jul 31 15:25:04 include files, and data files of the compiler itself." Jul 31 15:25:05 koen: and to find libstdc++.so anyway Jul 31 15:25:21 zecke: put it in the round filing drawer? Jul 31 15:25:45 koen: somewhere on a remove nfs1 share far far away Jul 31 15:25:49 remote Jul 31 15:28:58 Just to inform: I have tried several mq chips with kernel 2.6 now - here the results: SXX23801 - 0024 - even the bootloader mq driver doesn't work - SXX37802 - 0040 not working and finaly SXX20804 - 0034 works great :) Jul 31 15:29:51 mr_nice_slacker: where did you get the chips from? Jul 31 15:30:48 zecke: well I buy and sell SIMpads on ebay now to get a bit money for the memory chips Jul 31 15:31:07 lol Jul 31 15:31:24 zecke: I need the 128 MB RAM *g Jul 31 15:31:39 hmm how do you make sure you get more than you have paid? Jul 31 15:32:25 zecke: I only buy not working pads and repair them Jul 31 15:32:34 ah! Jul 31 15:32:40 good point Jul 31 15:33:01 zecke: yes but it is a kind of risk Jul 31 15:34:05 zecke: in the near future i will do a accu replacement service and a flash - jtag one Jul 31 15:34:08 cu all Jul 31 15:34:12 cya Jul 31 15:35:50 zecke: the most disadvantage is that i have to do with wlan and wince :( that isn't worth all the money i think) Jul 31 15:36:17 mr_nice_slacker: hehe Jul 31 15:37:15 mr_nice_slacker: I think, once I find the time I will redo the driver using the mq200 datasheet Jul 31 15:37:32 zecke: that would be great Jul 31 16:20:18 cu Jul 31 16:24:22 bizarre Jul 31 16:24:33 gpe-image is failing because it can't find /etc/passwd? Jul 31 16:25:20 rebuild base-passwd Jul 31 16:25:27 gpe removes the root password Jul 31 16:25:45 otherwise 'ssh root@tosa' will need no passwd Jul 31 16:25:56 kk Jul 31 16:27:47 florian_: NOTE: package libgpewidget-0.114-r0: task do_configure: started Jul 31 16:28:40 koen: just bitbake -f base-passwd? Jul 31 16:29:03 bitbake base-passwd -c clean ; bitbake base-passwd Jul 31 16:30:37 koen: ah cool Jul 31 16:34:53 florian_: thank inz and his maemo .deb rss feed :) Jul 31 16:35:34 bonne soirée / bye Jul 31 16:35:46 'evening Jul 31 16:36:58 koen: ok, don't forget libgpepimc and gpe-todo :-) Jul 31 16:37:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd82d9998... 10/ (1 packages/libgpewidget/libgpewidget_0.114.bb): libgpewidget: update to 0.114 Jul 31 16:37:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r60929e2b... 10/ (1 packages/libgpepimc/libgpepimc_0.8.bb): libgpepimc: update to 0.8 Jul 31 16:37:14 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r35526292... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-todo/gpe-todo_0.56.bb): gpe-todo: update to 0.56 Jul 31 16:37:23 florian_: there you go :) Jul 31 16:37:52 I update the DEPENDS of gpe-todo Jul 31 16:39:08 koen: cool, many thanks :-) Jul 31 16:39:40 florian_: I can also add a new gpe-calendar release Jul 31 16:39:48 Jul 31 16:39:50 ;) Jul 31 16:40:54 re Jul 31 16:41:07 hi ar Jul 31 16:41:25 koen: yeah, neal has a short list of open issues and i have another one but we are are quite close now imho. Jul 31 16:45:48 koen: same error after clean and rebuild :s Jul 31 16:46:24 mikearthur: it means that /etc/passwd is missing from your image somehow Jul 31 16:46:56 you can get past the error by commenting out 'zap_rootpassword' in gpe-image.bb Jul 31 17:05:35 hallo! Jul 31 17:05:44 hi Jul 31 17:06:32 I have a simPad with familar-opie-8.4-rc1 running and wanted to upgrade to RC3 ... Jul 31 17:06:48 this is not a distro support channel Jul 31 17:06:56 It is so long since I flashed it, I forgot some details Jul 31 17:07:39 koen, oh. Which channel then for problems with the bootloader? Jul 31 17:07:42 sorry Jul 31 17:08:07 try the channel of your distribution Jul 31 17:08:45 OK Jul 31 17:17:32 zecke: http://www.openvotingfoundation.org/ts/slides/2-oview2.html# Jul 31 17:17:54 zecke: check the IC on the top-right of the DIMM slot Jul 31 17:18:06 (yes, that's a diebold voting machine) Jul 31 17:18:41 http://www.openvotingfoundation.org/ts/2-oview2.jpg that is Jul 31 17:25:48 If I want to build qemu to test out my arm design what is the best way to do that? Do I just choose qemu as my machine or do I just bitbake qemu bb? Jul 31 17:26:27 koen: mediaq? Jul 31 17:27:22 yep Jul 31 17:29:28 I'm assuming the gemu.bb files are for building qemu for your target, although I did notice there is qemu.bb and qemu-native.bb Jul 31 17:31:08 hm it has an sh3 Jul 31 17:31:19 woglinde: wanna add OE support? Jul 31 17:31:23 lol Jul 31 17:31:31 I thought sh3 has oe support Jul 31 17:31:33 woglinde: I'll bet the men in black will find you pretty quick ;) Jul 31 17:32:07 voting machine suckz Jul 31 17:32:25 woglinde: elections suck, dictatorship is sooo easy Jul 31 17:33:06 in germany the gouverment take the security audit to the bundespruefanstalt für matrial Jul 31 17:33:18 they are not know for auditing software Jul 31 17:33:43 is that like TüV? Jul 31 17:34:30 and than says we cannt let check independed person to check the system, because it has buiness secret stuff Jul 31 17:34:46 koen hm yes in some way Jul 31 17:35:32 but the bundespruefanstalt is a gouerment think and tuev is buisness Jul 31 17:35:50 woglinde: I heard a similar story about tests for bulletproof vests Jul 31 17:36:27 woglinde: the goverment forgot the specify the outer fabric when testing so one company used kevlar for the outer fabric as well Jul 31 17:36:41 when they got the contract they replaced it with a cotton fabric Jul 31 17:37:03 koen jesus Jul 31 17:37:49 but you can't say what company and which country because it would endanger the people wearing those vests.... Jul 31 17:39:23 I bet every sector has stories like that Jul 31 17:40:21 yes but so I must trust the gouverment that the voting machine votes right Jul 31 17:40:29 and that I dont believe Jul 31 17:40:35 yeah Jul 31 17:40:43 * koen installs linux on his red pencil Jul 31 17:40:49 red pencil? Jul 31 17:41:05 you don't get red pencils for voting? Jul 31 17:41:12 hm Jul 31 17:41:35 I only used them once Jul 31 17:41:39 I think there is no law which color the pencil for voting has to be Jul 31 17:41:43 the rest was computers Jul 31 17:41:49 I prefer to fill out ballots in blood. Jul 31 17:41:57 ggilbert hm Jul 31 17:43:18 nchip: btw, you were using busybox 1.2.x, right? 1.0.x and 1.1.x segfault like crazy with EABI Jul 31 17:52:46 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Jul 31 17:52:50 * mrz80 is back (gone 00:00:02) Jul 31 17:58:59 okay, I will play some game cube Jul 31 17:59:00 *later* Jul 31 17:59:35 *neid* Jul 31 18:00:32 woglinde: I think I will try to get a copy of NfS U2 Jul 31 18:02:03 zecke bye it Jul 31 18:02:05 aeh buy it Jul 31 18:30:34 http://www.chevron.com/technology/ Jul 31 18:30:38 wrong window Jul 31 19:46:32 RP: around? Jul 31 21:49:38 it's raining mail ;) Jul 31 21:53:41 NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available Jul 31 21:53:46 hallelujah Jul 31 21:53:47 * kergoth shakes fist at bitbake Jul 31 21:53:52 it is TOO available you bastard Jul 31 21:55:47 * cyrilRomain tried to debug bitbake to find why is 2.4 of glibc not available, but without much success (it is first not found, and then found after an data_update()) ... Jul 31 22:01:48 lol Jul 31 22:16:44 ~lart QT Jul 31 22:16:44 * ibot drops a baby grand on QT Jul 31 22:17:21 ibot: no wait ! it is not enough Jul 31 22:17:23 cyrilRomain: what are you talking about? Jul 31 22:17:25 * JustinP wonders what happens if someone ~larts ibot Jul 31 22:17:26 ~lart QT again Jul 31 22:17:26 * ibot nukes QT again with a single large nuke Jul 31 22:18:10 That should do it. Jul 31 22:23:49 ~lart ibot Jul 31 22:23:49 * ibot blasts hvontres|poodle with a huge firehose then strangles hvontres|poodle with it Jul 31 22:24:20 hihi :) Jul 31 22:24:39 just had to try ...:) Jul 31 22:26:13 well... enough for today breaking my teeth on building QT. 'night guys! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Aug 01 02:59:56 2006