**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 04 02:59:56 2006 Aug 04 06:59:25 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rda4100d3... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.2.conf): added distro config for 3.5.4.2 Aug 04 06:59:30 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r8249288b... 10/ (1 conf/machine/tosa.conf): tosa: 2.6 kernel by default Aug 04 06:59:35 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r87cb6d53... 10/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Aug 04 06:59:35 linux-openzaurus: updated pcmcia-ids patch Aug 04 06:59:35 - added one more CF card Aug 04 06:59:35 - patch acked by Alan Cox and added into -mm Aug 04 07:05:03 morning Aug 04 07:11:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r5fa8d9d5... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.1.inc): preferred xorg versions X11R7.1: make everything overridable Aug 04 07:11:57 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3cc9017e... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf): angstrom 2006.9: use xorg 7.1 versions Aug 04 07:26:18 hey XorA Aug 04 07:26:18 morning Aug 04 07:26:55 * koen has a distinct 'saturday' feeling Aug 04 07:28:23 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * re7d4e40b... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): added cherokee 0.5.3 from .dev Aug 04 07:28:31 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r360b1ef9... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Aug 04 07:28:31 madwifi-ng r1692: Add madwifi snapshot 1692, which is the same as the 0.9.2 Aug 04 07:28:31 madwifi release (apart from the version number). This brings in a lot of Aug 04 07:28:31 fixes and makes it far more stable on my sh4 based device. I've decided not Aug 04 07:28:31 to use the actual 0.9.2 release .tar files for now since the snapshot and Aug 04 07:28:34 release version number are not really compatible and some solution for that Aug 04 07:28:36 would be needed first. Aug 04 07:31:18 ooops Aug 04 07:31:24 CMDLINE_ROOT = "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1" Aug 04 07:31:41 no wonder people had trouble booting Ångström on zaurusses Aug 04 07:31:44 * koen mtn revert Aug 04 07:33:40 morning all Aug 04 07:34:06 hey Dirk Aug 04 07:34:18 hey Koen Aug 04 07:52:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re55471df... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates: add date for xcalibrate Aug 04 07:59:29 morning guys Aug 04 08:01:20 morning Aug 04 08:02:12 hey hrw|work & mikearthur Aug 04 08:03:20 hmm i cant get a dynamic version string into my code on compiled which day ? Aug 04 08:08:39 hey mikearthur, hrw|work Aug 04 08:08:46 morning dirk Aug 04 08:13:45 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r22d79ce1... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/sane-srcdates.inc): sane-srcdates: add date for rosetta Aug 04 08:14:08 03pmiscml 07org.oe.dev * r99bb691e... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): acct: add 6.4pre1, closes #1276 Aug 04 08:19:54 03pmiscml 07org.oe.dev * rae720a89... 10/ (1 packages/bootchart/bootchart_0.9.bb): Aug 04 08:19:54 bootchart: This is revamp of the bb, pulling official tarball, and patching it with Aug 04 08:19:54 setting which make it more seamless and easier to use with OE-based Aug 04 08:19:54 distribution. Aug 04 08:20:02 03pmiscml 07org.oe.dev * rf2e19af7... 10/ (1 packages/images/bootstrap-image-bootchart.bb): bootstrap-image-bootchart: add an image target for making bootcharts Aug 04 08:21:04 pmiscml? Aug 04 08:21:18 hrw|work: mtn commit --author Aug 04 08:21:32 hrw|work: paul sokolovsky Aug 04 08:21:54 ah Aug 04 08:25:59 breakfast time Aug 04 09:10:17 hi koen Aug 04 09:10:50 hey woglinde Aug 04 09:14:30 ~fish koen Aug 04 09:14:34 * ibot slaps koen around with a large trout Aug 04 09:15:08 mmmm, herring Aug 04 09:15:28 XorA: what kind of stupid typo did I commit now? Aug 04 09:15:42 koen: nothing, just a spare one in case :-) Aug 04 09:15:55 :) Aug 04 09:17:31 good morning Aug 04 09:18:35 koen: make glibc stage quicker :-) Aug 04 09:24:52 morning folks Aug 04 09:31:09 hey mickeyl Aug 04 09:34:07 mm, python's ElementTree api is spiffy Aug 04 09:35:25 ya. didn't really work with it yet, but it looks cool Aug 04 10:05:35 Hi Aug 04 10:06:14 I'm using gcc-cross 3.3.4 and the libraries libg2c, libgcc_s und libstdc++ don Aug 04 10:06:29 don't get copied in the image and in the staging directory Aug 04 10:20:32 ipkg sucks Aug 04 10:20:43 hehe Aug 04 10:20:45 why? Aug 04 10:20:52 why? Aug 04 10:20:55 sorry Aug 04 10:22:02 ipkg update says it cannot wget Packages.gz and when I issue the command manually (cut and paste) it works like a charm Aug 04 10:22:44 very repeatable Aug 04 10:22:48 hmm Aug 04 10:23:49 ipkg says error 127, after manual execution and echo $? it says 0 (it is $? to get the ret value of the last cmd isn't it?) Aug 04 10:24:04 it is, yes Aug 04 10:25:23 last thing it did before getting into this was that ipkg upgrade wanted to update busybox and nuked some stuff (e.g. grep, df, ...) Aug 04 10:25:53 actually don't have a busybox image in /bin any more .... Aug 04 10:29:39 ok, seems to have fixed it, downloaded busybox manually then did an ipkg install of the local copy. Aug 04 10:29:44 that resolved it. Aug 04 10:29:47 I persis Aug 04 10:29:50 I persist Aug 04 10:29:53 ipkg sucks Aug 04 10:29:59 ~seen pigi Aug 04 10:30:09 ~lart ipkg Aug 04 10:30:11 pigi was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 65d 20h 16m 39s ago, saying: 'is there anyone that has successfully got asterisk working with eicon diva pci cards (passive cards ) ?'. Aug 04 10:30:11 * ibot raises middle finger to ipkg Aug 04 10:30:21 tmbinc: did you try to rosterify your private stuff yet? Aug 04 10:30:40 had some discussion in ipkg with pigi in the past Aug 04 10:30:47 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r27b5cdf4... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/preferred-xorg-versions-X11R7.1.inc): preferred xorg: use a non-broken xfont Aug 04 10:31:03 looked into the code and it really sucks (of course pigi is probably not the one to blame for that) Aug 04 10:32:05 eFfeM: it'd be nice if ipkg linked to the libbb from busybox instead of including its own copy Aug 04 10:32:23 anyone by any chance tried/uses usb audio compiled with gcc 4.1.1 on a BE architecture? Aug 04 10:33:00 alsa has a bug with gcc 4.1.x Aug 04 10:33:02 koen that is only one of the things that could be changed. I seem to recall I looked at the cmd line parsing and that was not too nice either Aug 04 10:33:07 koen, tnx Aug 04 10:33:31 do you have a ptr ? Aug 04 10:33:52 it's in the gcc bugzilla Aug 04 10:34:13 http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27363 Aug 04 10:35:34 tnx, Aug 04 10:35:36 first dinner Aug 04 10:43:15 * XorA dreams of owning an AMD 4x4 Aug 04 10:44:40 i looked into an 8x2 some time ago... Aug 04 10:45:59 * ade|desk dreams of a good 1 x 1 at home .. nevermind m x n Aug 04 10:47:27 zecke: i've just made sure to not have any outstanding commits, so, yes :) Aug 04 10:47:36 ah :) Aug 04 10:47:59 and are you satisfied with mtn 0.28? Aug 04 10:48:01 though propagating still doesn't work Aug 04 10:48:06 ouch Aug 04 10:48:27 but it's not related to a bug now as it seems, but more that i'm unable to properly fix a conflict Aug 04 10:48:44 tmbinc: I think you can take it up with njs or other monotone folks Aug 04 10:49:42 i'm getting some "mtn: warning: orphaned node conflict on node 12835, dead parent 11206, name autohell.patch" errors Aug 04 10:49:56 yes i should invest some more energy into that issue :) Aug 04 10:50:07 oh that sounds like badness in our db :} Aug 04 10:50:51 hm no i believe i just removed/replaced a directory in my branch, and someone else replaced it in the .dev branch. So the two removals are unrelated or something. Aug 04 10:51:51 but not sure. all these SCM algorithms above CVS is mostly plain magic to me. Aug 04 10:53:34 ~lart overheated machines Aug 04 10:53:35 * ibot pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps overheated machines Aug 04 10:56:59 XorA: ;) Aug 04 10:57:25 XorA: today I got info from few shops that they do not have fan which I want ;( Aug 04 10:59:54 I get an error parsng bootstrap-image-bootchart.bb Aug 04 11:00:13 hrw|work: sucks, mine is more complex as its part of the MB that overheats Aug 04 11:00:19 hrw|work: I plan to upgrade soon Aug 04 11:00:35 hrw|work: get yourself a paypal account! Aug 04 11:02:14 XorA: my hdd has 46°C and with room fan pointed to it it came down to 30°C so it show why fan is needed Aug 04 11:02:23 koen, checked the gcc bug 27363, it is fixed already, I'll try to add the patch to gcc 4.1.1 Aug 04 11:02:23 zecke: paypal still does not support Poland Aug 04 11:02:28 damn Aug 04 11:02:57 hrw|work: inside my case reaches 60 degrees C, I think parts of the MB top that Aug 04 11:03:03 zecke: I can create paypal account but only to give donations not take Aug 04 11:03:22 XorA: 60°C?? my cpu does not get into it usually.. Aug 04 11:05:33 hrw|work: I have a shuttle XPC so its very small case :-) Aug 04 11:05:40 ah. Aug 04 11:05:53 XorA: I have codegen case with 9x 5.25" bays Aug 04 11:06:00 hrw|work: a monster Aug 04 11:06:12 XorA: size of normal miditower Aug 04 11:06:22 i've been getting random crashes trying to do oe builds in my box Aug 04 11:06:33 athlon 64 + 10k rpm scsi drive in a shuttle xpc case = bad Aug 04 11:07:48 kergoth: they do scsi XPCs? Aug 04 11:08:01 kergoth: mine is an athlon 64 as well Aug 04 11:08:08 no, i installed a controller, taking up a precious pci slot :( Aug 04 11:08:19 still, i love the drive, just a bit toasty in there :) Aug 04 11:08:31 and linux acpi sucks ass, half the time it isnt engaging the fan(s) in there Aug 04 11:08:39 reloaded windows for a while because of it :( Aug 04 11:09:05 kergoth: thats exactly my problem, 100% cpu load, windows ramps the fans up, linux just kind of does maybe sometimes Aug 04 11:09:23 yeah, exactly. if you're lucky Aug 04 11:09:25 :( Aug 04 11:09:37 force the fan on Aug 04 11:09:42 kergoth: have arrived home to find machine crashed and case too hot to touch before :-( Aug 04 11:09:50 lower the temp when the fan gets turned on Aug 04 11:10:06 no way to force it in the bios, and i've changed the trigger points via acpi's /proc, and its still not reliable Aug 04 11:10:19 helps, without that i'm /really/ fucked, but.. Aug 04 11:10:33 kergoth: well you can turn the fan on using 'echo' Aug 04 11:10:37 I tried lmsensors fancontrol script, but that seems to just make fan==max at all times Aug 04 11:11:00 zecke: not here, it doesnt do anything. echo errors Aug 04 11:11:06 hmm Aug 04 11:11:14 * kergoth glares at his shuttle Aug 04 11:11:27 * zecke loves the -arch option of apple's gcc Aug 04 11:11:28 no worries, i loaded up colinux in windows and gave it direct access to my linux /home Aug 04 11:11:32 doing builds in there now :) Aug 04 11:12:15 kergoth: which windows/colinux combo, Im having trouble getting colinux stable in XP SP2 Aug 04 11:12:40 i'm using the latest colinux release with sp2 Aug 04 11:12:52 works fine, using the pcap networking, i had difficulty trying to use the native bridging Aug 04 11:13:20 kergoth: hmm, 0.6.2 here just randomly quits if I assign more than 64M of RAM Aug 04 11:13:49 6.4 sorry Aug 04 11:16:30 I'm trying to build python which in turn requires and builds diet-x11-6.2.1-r4. diet-x11-6.2.1-r4 does not build and gives the following error: x11_trans.h:27:20: Xtrans.h: No such file or directory Aug 04 11:16:47 I checked the directory and the Xtrans.h header is missing. Aug 04 11:16:56 XorA: 0.6.2 is old. for the note, still not upgarded from colinux 0.6.3pre13, using it for OE builds, giving 128Mb on P4-2.8HT Aug 04 11:17:15 psokolovsky: I typoed, I have 0.6.4 Aug 04 11:17:30 there is an XimTrans.h Aug 04 11:17:47 and wierdly I try again and it boots, ~lart colinux for wierdness Aug 04 11:21:36 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r1fabadea... 10/ (1 packages/images/bootstrap-image-bootchart.bb): bootstrap-image-bootchart.bb: apply patch instead of renaming it Aug 04 11:22:53 kergoth: is there a way in autoconf to see if one is cross compiling? Aug 04 11:23:59 zecke: yes, $cross_compiling gets set. you can if test x"$cross_compiling" != "x"; then ... fi or whatever, around AC_RUN_IFELSE() calls that only exist to sanity check the environment Aug 04 11:24:39 kergoth: I want to disable your 'size_of_type' patch when not cross compiling Aug 04 11:24:58 kergoth: as BSD size != GNU size Aug 04 11:25:04 ah Aug 04 11:25:14 still, cant just check if the target is a gnu one? Aug 04 11:25:40 kergoth: how? Aug 04 11:25:45 I could have a test for size Aug 04 11:25:47 umm, i used to know Aug 04 11:26:00 i dont know anymore, i'd have to delve back into it. i'm rusty :) Aug 04 11:26:03 and depending on the result test the size differently Aug 04 11:26:20 * zecke just wrote his own autoconf test :) Aug 04 11:26:30 (in contrast to patching broken ones) Aug 04 11:26:46 hehe Aug 04 11:26:59 you know, once you really get a handle on m4, its a pretty neat little language Aug 04 11:27:05 if easy to screw up in Aug 04 11:27:44 zecke: what would be the best way to implement CROSS_DEPENDS for the toolchain? Aug 04 11:27:55 zecke: gcc-cross needs binutils cross in cross/ Aug 04 11:28:27 koen: using different 'feeds'? Aug 04 11:28:41 koen: packages inherting cross are in the cross feed Aug 04 11:28:50 koen: same for native and for target packages? Aug 04 11:28:56 would that make sense? Aug 04 11:29:06 that makes sense Aug 04 11:29:32 that's sort of what I'm doing right now Aug 04 11:29:41 deploy/ipk and deploy/pstage Aug 04 11:30:11 IMHO that defines a nice scope Aug 04 11:30:26 heh, thats related to the more generic problem of binary package creation for package variants, ala gentoo's USE. which makes sense, considering native/cross is just a variant of sorts on the metadata Aug 04 11:30:42 thought about ways of encoding the metadata into the binary, but it gets awfully ugly awfully fast Aug 04 11:31:27 right now I'm thinking about filling in cross/ with ipkgs, let make install run, ipkg remove everything and package up what's left Aug 04 11:32:14 koen: hehe Aug 04 11:32:27 now the word chroot comes into my mind as well, but I will leave this until later Aug 04 11:32:33 yeah Aug 04 11:32:52 I think implenting 'checkinstall' is a bit out of the scope Aug 04 11:33:02 when you resolve that then we can create kind of autobuilders Aug 04 11:33:54 bitbake umbaumba == ipkg install build-essential; build DEPENDS;ipkg install DEPENDS;build umbaumba Aug 04 11:34:32 hrw|work: that is the point :) Aug 04 11:35:34 damnit Aug 04 11:35:37 it rains Aug 04 11:35:49 and my bycicle is out Aug 04 11:35:58 woglinde: it rains? Aug 04 11:36:04 zecke: I wonder how much FTBFS bugs we will get then Aug 04 11:36:10 zecke yes Aug 04 11:36:16 hrw|work: what is FTBFS? Aug 04 11:36:26 Failed To Build From Source Aug 04 11:36:31 woglinde: it is sunny here Aug 04 11:36:32 Debian word Aug 04 11:36:36 hrw|work: none! Aug 04 11:36:52 zecke: optimist Aug 04 11:37:00 we need more oe builds under minimal distro chroots Aug 04 11:37:07 qemu-native needs zlib-native and nobody noticed :) Aug 04 11:37:22 kergoth: well the kernel should provide zlib Aug 04 11:37:26 kergoth: everybody has it :) Aug 04 11:37:35 hm? Aug 04 11:37:41 hehe Aug 04 11:38:08 kergoth: I plan to move my autobuilds into a xen environment Aug 04 11:38:16 thats cool Aug 04 11:38:33 kergoth: and I plan to get some more pizza boxes for building :} Aug 04 11:38:46 hehe Aug 04 11:38:56 my bitbake todo list keeps growing. it worries me Aug 04 11:39:16 kergoth: hehe, prioritize them Aug 04 11:39:21 * kergoth nods Aug 04 11:39:25 bitbake/OE has grown without direction in the past years Aug 04 11:39:25 * kergoth heads to bed Aug 04 11:39:26 kergoth: done in 2006, until 2007, 2008, 2009 Aug 04 11:39:30 nite kergoth Aug 04 11:39:50 ops.. I forgot about one thing Aug 04 11:39:50 mickey|lunch: kergoth`zzz : Time to plac dictator Aug 04 11:39:59 ~nslookup feeds.openzaurus.org Aug 04 11:40:01 I can't find feeds.openzaurus.org in DNS Aug 04 11:40:09 kergoth`zzz: reminder Aug 04 11:40:20 damnit, i knew i forgot something. i did remember to do mickeyl's mailing lists subdomain Aug 04 11:40:28 throw me a quick email to clarson@kergoth.com and i'll do it tomorrow Aug 04 11:42:22 Speaking of bitbake, can developers confirm that bugs/patches should be submitted to OE bugzilla, not somewhere at berlios? Aug 04 11:43:00 psokolovsky: yes Aug 04 11:43:37 zecke: ok Aug 04 11:43:41 psokolovsky: and there is no bugtracker at berlios! Aug 04 11:43:42 kergoth`zzz: sent Aug 04 11:48:24 psokolovsky: please show me the bugtracke at berlios so I can shut it down Aug 04 11:49:40 zecke: Actually, I had a quick look, and didn't find it either, but decided to re-confirm just in case. Sorry for the confusion. Aug 04 11:50:11 psokolovsky: where would you expect a pointer to the bugtracker? Aug 04 11:51:56 zecke: Well, if it was written on bitbake's homepage that "use tracker at ", it would be less confusing, I guess. But maybe it's just me, so nevermind ;-) Aug 04 11:52:11 psokolovsky: feel free to create a bitbake homepage Aug 04 11:53:44 zecke: Anyway, what I have locally is cleaned up SVN fetcher - somehow this one doesn't feit with other ones, doesn't have overridable command lines, deletes workcopy checkout after tarring it unconditionally. I have rough revamp of this locally, submit as I clean up it. Aug 04 11:54:26 Since I have updated to a new BitBak and OpenEmbedded Version my Kernel don't compile anymore. The call of the compiler is the same. Here are the errors: http://pastebin.de/10247 Aug 04 11:54:43 psokolovsky: why it remove workcopy after tarring? Aug 04 11:55:01 is inittab the best location to add services like ifconfig or dropbear ? Aug 04 11:55:11 psokolovsky: it should keep it to use 'update' instead of 'checkout' next time Aug 04 11:55:22 Cobelius: new bitbake? Aug 04 11:55:40 hrw|work: it is written that way ;-) quick hack, I guess ;-) (disclaimer - bitbake HEAD checkout ~1mn ago) Aug 04 11:55:48 Cobelius: do not use gcc4.1 for compiling your ancient kernel? Aug 04 11:56:03 hrw|work: yes, it should Aug 04 11:56:28 Cobelius: use the gcc you have used before and it should be fine Aug 04 11:56:29 No I use gcc 3.3.4 Aug 04 11:56:43 I use the same Aug 04 11:56:57 Cobelius: check again Aug 04 11:57:51 I checked it, the Version is 3.3.4 Aug 04 11:59:46 Cobelius: then use the version of binutils you have used before? Aug 04 12:03:31 okay, are there also other packages I should check? Aug 04 12:03:56 Cobelius: well Aug 04 12:04:12 Cobelius: common engineering sense. As it is used to work and it doesn't work now Aug 04 12:04:29 Cobelius: and the error comes on compiling of the kernel Aug 04 12:04:41 Cobelius: check google, check for changes in your toolchain Aug 04 12:04:53 okay Aug 04 12:09:21 koen, did you ever have any success with the following bug http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1175 I'm getting the same compile error. Aug 04 12:10:42 Gerrath: I use diet-x11 instead of full X11 Aug 04 12:11:28 BTW: did you read that Andrew Morton works for google now? Aug 04 12:11:37 his argumentation is odd though Aug 04 12:11:46 zecke: he can find his patches easier now? Aug 04 12:12:37 koen: As google maintains a custom linux kernel already, he will not be google influenced when working on the vanilla kernel Aug 04 12:12:43 If I read that correctly... Aug 04 12:13:22 koen: whats the beef with dbus-glib? Aug 04 12:13:36 koen, I'm just trying to build python and I guess it requires X11 to build. (python is the only file called in my meta file) Aug 04 12:14:05 XorA: the -native doesn't build, so I disabled that locally Aug 04 12:15:00 Gerrath: it build diet-x11 over here, so you need to specify a preferred provider for libx11 Aug 04 12:15:01 koen: no gpe-contacts then? Aug 04 12:15:19 XorA: see ph5's mail to oe@ about the situation Aug 04 12:16:43 koen, uhm, it built diet-x11 also (and successfully). I guess it is building both? I'll set the preferred provider and see if it only builds one. Aug 04 12:24:26 good morning Aug 04 12:25:29 when running 'mtn update' how do i get the output to go to a file instead of terminal? (i already tried the '> filename' afterward) Aug 04 12:28:12 mtn update 2>file? Aug 04 12:28:25 >& file? Aug 04 12:37:52 koen: I suspect dbus-glib-native also need the no-introspect patch Aug 04 12:38:03 koen: which the non native version has Aug 04 12:40:58 koen: and to depend on dbus-native >=0.90 Aug 04 12:41:39 XorA: dbus is voodoo for me Aug 04 12:41:58 koen: to me as well, but it compiled :-) Aug 04 12:42:13 oh git merge works on Non GNU Aug 04 12:43:36 thx hrw - that worked Aug 04 12:44:44 koen, is busybox 1.2 in oe yet? i saw some mention of it this week but being new, i only know how to check the preferred versions of packages by using 'bitbake -s' Aug 04 12:45:24 poushag: ever heard of 'ls' ? Aug 04 12:45:30 how can i check (or list) what package versions are available? Aug 04 12:45:47 ls packages/busybox Aug 04 12:46:25 well thats a bit too obvious :S Aug 04 13:17:28 XorA: as I understand, the correct way to create the introspection data would be to make the dbus-glib-native build start a temporary dbus server (from dbus-native). I didn't get it to do that, tough. Aug 04 13:17:46 pH5: I connected it to my systems dbus bus Aug 04 13:18:15 XorA: that worked here, too. but I fear that's technically incorrect, isn't it? Aug 04 13:18:39 pH5: yes, but the non natve doesnt do the introspection stuff, is it actually essential? Aug 04 13:19:59 XorA: the non-native copies the introspection xml from the native build. Aug 04 13:20:11 creating the xml is the only reason the -native packages exist at all. Aug 04 13:20:23 I don't know if it is actually needed. Aug 04 13:20:39 pH5: afaik it isn't Aug 04 13:20:41 pH5: ah, I didnt know that, hmm, then its gong to be tricky Aug 04 13:20:51 I can build it without the -native one Aug 04 13:20:58 another possibility would be to create the xml manually and provide it with the metadata Aug 04 13:21:14 I'd like to drop dbus-native and dbus-glib-native, I think it's ugly. Aug 04 13:25:07 koen: there is one header file generated from the introspection data (dbus-glib-bindings.h) Aug 04 13:35:52 irssi need DESCRIPTION change Aug 04 13:36:08 s/'with Perl scripting'// as it has perl disabled Aug 04 13:40:47 hrw|work: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.12228.png Aug 04 13:41:15 nootbook pro > Aug 04 13:41:24 notebook pro ? even Aug 04 13:41:28 ade|desk: yes Aug 04 13:41:35 nice Aug 04 13:41:55 expensive but nice Aug 04 13:42:16 ade|desk: lrg is lending me his one Aug 04 13:43:35 koen i don't believe you, i reckon you won the euro millions and just buy kit as a hobby Aug 04 13:45:00 * florian_kc is tempted to remove a "-1" from libmimedir_cvs.bb Aug 04 13:45:38 florian_kc: remember to patch up the SOVERSION if you do Aug 04 13:45:45 florian_kc: and add neals patches :) Aug 04 13:53:54 mickey|lunch: import this is funny Aug 04 14:00:10 koen: it's up already Aug 04 14:00:23 hoe do i tel the cvs fetcher that i want a particular date? Aug 04 14:00:54 set SRCDATE? Aug 04 14:02:06 koen, added the cse patch , recompiled the kernel, reloaded the pcm module, that caused the snd problem to disappear Aug 04 14:02:19 florian_kc: in .oz354x use CVSDATE still Aug 04 14:02:22 now committing the change Aug 04 14:02:28 ah right Aug 04 14:04:19 hrw|work: true... Aug 04 14:04:29 hrw|work: btw... are there plans to update dbus? Aug 04 14:04:54 florian_kc: dbus > 0.23 req rebuilding whole gpe - right? Aug 04 14:06:13 hrw|work: not really, gpe-bluetooth, gpe-filemanager, gpe-calendar, gpe-contacts, gpe-beam, gconf-dbus and gnome-vfs iirc Aug 04 14:08:02 florian_kc: don't those have code to deal with both? Aug 04 14:10:03 koen: yes, but theeare compile time options Aug 04 14:15:37 florian_kc: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/index.php?path=screenshots/ Aug 04 14:15:47 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0c794d3c... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-sdk.bb): task-sdk: add libcontactsdb-dev to gpe development libraries. Aug 04 14:15:52 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r56f4d34b... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Aug 04 14:15:52 Added patch (from gcc fix for bug 27363). This makes alsa work with gcc 4.1.1 Aug 04 14:15:52 (after this at least the pcm module needs to be compiled and reloaded) Aug 04 14:15:57 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rda07e320... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Aug 04 14:15:57 libmimedir: Add update patch not applied to cvs. Aug 04 14:15:57 Add new cvs version with fixed date. Aug 04 14:19:13 eFfeM: that patch from r56f34b is in gcc or alsa-lib or alsa-utils? Aug 04 14:19:42 gcc Aug 04 14:20:00 I will write CheckInPolicy for wiki Aug 04 14:20:09 should have made that a little bit more explicit Aug 04 14:20:19 "PACKAGENAME: short summary\nlonger summary" Aug 04 14:20:48 hey awelux u there ?? Aug 04 14:20:50 yeah, forgot package name, normally I do so, sorry for missing that this time Aug 04 14:21:37 koen: OE page lack entry to wiki Aug 04 14:22:04 hrw|work: openembedded.org? Aug 04 14:22:15 yep Aug 04 14:22:34 that has a link to the wiki Aug 04 14:22:40 click on 'documentation' Aug 04 14:23:34 hrw, are you still worrying about computer overheating? Aug 04 14:23:46 poushag: yep Aug 04 14:25:22 im curious why you think 40degC is so bad - my computer runs at 60degC constantly and has been for 3 years now (i have folding maxing out both CPUs) Aug 04 14:25:52 which part are you measuring at 40? Aug 04 14:26:20 hello; is it possible to create bbfile which DEPENDS on other packages with specified version? Something like "glib-2.0 (>= 2.6.0-r0)" Aug 04 14:26:43 poushag: hdd has 46, cpu 56-60, mainboardsensor report 46 Aug 04 14:28:54 koen: is there somewhere old wiki available? Aug 04 14:29:07 hrw, that all seems pretty normal to me - as long as your case isnt clogged with dust bunnies the existing fans should be fine Aug 04 14:29:08 hrw|work: ~/wiki in the filesystem Aug 04 14:29:37 florian_kc: does libmimedir have all neals patches now? Aug 04 14:30:15 koen: ? Aug 04 14:30:20 hrw, has the computer actually overheated in the past? Aug 04 14:30:36 mmp: no imho Aug 04 14:31:02 koen: i guess, so... everything i have. Aug 04 14:31:19 florian_kc: ok, so I'll be assuming that packages are at correct versions; thanks. Aug 04 14:31:25 poushag: sometimes Aug 04 14:32:15 koen: #define filesystem Aug 04 14:32:47 mmp: usually yes, your local.conf or the distributioncan specify a version to use Aug 04 14:32:57 hrw|work: ssh oe@openembedded.org ; cd wiki Aug 04 14:34:38 koen: o.. did not know that Aug 04 14:34:45 hrw, my company had some machines we sold that had defective clamps supposed to hold processor to heatsink - did you look at this possibility? Aug 04 14:35:19 poushag: I plan to check machine internals Aug 04 14:35:58 koen: anyway its not for me as I never got informations how to use that account Aug 04 14:36:29 hrw|work: you never asked info Aug 04 14:36:54 * koen refers to mickey|lunch about info on the oe account Aug 04 14:36:54 koen: never know that such thing exist so did not asked ;D Aug 04 14:38:47 hrw, good luck with it - vacuum out the case too - and when you press down on the heatsink it shouldnt move - it should be tight with no play or slop Aug 04 14:45:17 btw - during vacations I played a bit with dreambox 7020 - nice thing it is Aug 04 14:48:32 tmbinc: I need to send you my address :} Aug 04 15:00:20 hi all Aug 04 15:00:36 afternoon Aug 04 15:12:26 zecke: hehe. Just send me a mail. Aug 04 15:15:21 all this locale stuff is wasting time and cpu cycles just to build busybox - how can i disable it? Aug 04 15:16:02 poushag: you only have to build them once Aug 04 15:16:04 too good to be true :} Aug 04 15:29:57 cu all Aug 04 15:37:23 re Aug 04 15:47:12 ok koen, thx Aug 04 15:47:58 is it normal to get 'the following files were installed but not shipped in any package' with a lot of very common things listed like cp and tar when packaging busybox? Aug 04 15:50:11 hi crofton - go hokies! Aug 04 15:50:25 hi Aug 04 15:50:44 How do you know about the hoies? Aug 04 15:50:50 er hokies Aug 04 15:51:03 * poushag is vt alum Aug 04 15:51:40 cool Aug 04 15:51:42 and football season is almost here :D Aug 04 15:51:47 when did you graduate? Aug 04 15:51:49 heh Aug 04 15:52:04 Drinking in the commuter lot commences Aug 04 15:52:22 92 BSAE - 01 MSEE Aug 04 15:52:35 hmmm Aug 04 15:52:42 What group in EE? Aug 04 15:52:51 I'm in MPRG er wireless@vt Aug 04 15:53:10 I have a BSEE circa 1983 Aug 04 15:53:17 now I am a refugee from the real world Aug 04 15:53:42 thats cool - the shielding in that building is a pain though - cant use cell phone in it Aug 04 15:53:59 barely Aug 04 15:54:04 i was vpec aka cpes = power electronics and motor controls Aug 04 15:54:08 ah Aug 04 15:54:34 I used to do "brushless DC motors" years ago Aug 04 15:54:47 What brings you to #oe? Aug 04 15:55:29 i have an old collie running oz-3.5.4 but i cant send email with it due to bugginess of sw - thought id try to fix it Aug 04 15:55:33 what about you? Aug 04 15:56:02 I do some SDR work on embedded type platforms Aug 04 15:56:35 sd = software development and r = ? Aug 04 15:56:41 research? Aug 04 15:56:58 ~sdr Aug 04 15:57:00 Multicast Session Directory Tool. URL: http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/sdr/ Aug 04 15:57:05 hmmm Aug 04 15:57:18 sdr is also Software Defined Radio Aug 04 15:57:23 ~sdr Aug 04 15:57:25 Multicast Session Directory Tool. URL: http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/sdr/ Aug 04 15:57:33 stupid bot :) Aug 04 15:57:41 ~sdr is also Software Defined Radio Aug 04 15:57:43 okay, koen Aug 04 15:57:43 oh yeah - i think i saw some of your earlier posts about mplayer or some such Aug 04 15:57:50 ibot: botsnack Aug 04 15:57:50 aw, gee, koen Aug 04 15:57:53 ~sdr Aug 04 15:57:54 Multicast Session Directory Tool. URL: http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software/sdr/. Software Defined Radio Aug 04 15:58:10 thanks koen Aug 04 16:01:02 poushag, who are you working for now? Aug 04 16:03:35 * poushag is currently looking for a new job - the revenues of current employer (a startup company) havent been very stable Aug 04 16:03:45 heh Aug 04 16:04:21 well good luck with the search Aug 04 16:04:43 thx - are you staying in VA after schooling? Aug 04 16:04:48 yeah Aug 04 16:04:55 I have been in Blacksburg a long time Aug 04 16:14:49 bbl Aug 04 16:16:47 JustinP: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/screenshots/netbook-pro2.png Aug 04 16:21:54 koen: :-) Aug 04 16:24:13 koen@netbook-pro:~/.e/e/applications/favorite/PIM$ entice /media/card/dcim/* Aug 04 16:24:13 ERROR: can't find plugin (default) Aug 04 16:24:13 ERROR: using default layout plugin Aug 04 16:24:14 ERROR: can't find plugin (default) Aug 04 16:24:14 ERROR: can't load default plugin Aug 04 16:24:14 Segmentation fault Aug 04 16:24:22 JustinP: any ideas on that? Aug 04 16:34:42 JustinP: that's on oz 3.5.4.1 + ipkg upgrade Aug 04 16:35:37 koen: perhaps the plugins aren't being shipped any more? Aug 04 16:35:52 koen: I haven't touched those apps in a while Aug 04 17:02:17 JustinP: weirdness Aug 04 17:02:29 JustinP: now it doesn't segfault but just exits Aug 04 17:02:34 * koen investigates Aug 04 17:04:43 aha Aug 04 17:04:44 connect(4, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path="/home/root/.ecore/entice/0"}, 28) = -1 ECONNREFUSED (Connection refused) Aug 04 17:22:00 a+ Aug 04 17:24:03 * koen grumbles Aug 04 17:24:14 without loading the pcmcia driver wifi doesn't work Aug 04 17:25:38 koen hm that sounds reseonable Aug 04 17:26:06 I'm too lazy to boot up the workstation to fix it via serial Aug 04 17:26:40 hm Aug 04 17:26:54 I am lazy at the moment for everything Aug 04 17:27:21 but I have to write an other paper Aug 04 17:35:51 ~lart Comcast Aug 04 17:35:52 * ibot burns Comcast to a crisp with a laser Aug 04 17:36:35 hm Aug 04 17:40:25 hm, try to build freetype 2.1.10 with the bb file and it fails with Aug 04 17:40:26 armeb-linux-gcc: /home/frans/OpenSlugHead/openslug/tmp/staging/armeb-linux/lib/.libs/libz.a: No such file or directory Aug 04 17:40:42 libz.a is in my staging dir in lib (so without the .libs) Aug 04 17:40:52 is this a fault in freetype or my setup ? Aug 04 17:41:34 .libs Aug 04 17:41:44 sounds like a stupid libtool issue to me Aug 04 17:42:47 yeah, fear so, but I thought someone would have built this before (actually i want to build linphone, but for some mysterious reason this drags in freetype...) Aug 04 17:42:51 brb Aug 04 17:44:48 hm wasnt this the stupid freetype internal linz foo Aug 04 17:44:50 libz Aug 04 17:51:42 re Aug 04 17:52:47 hi florian Aug 04 18:52:53 JustinP: how up to date is the e stuff inthe 3.5.4.1 feeds? Aug 04 18:59:38 moring kergoth :) Aug 04 18:59:44 hey kergoth Aug 04 19:00:09 hey Aug 04 19:02:37 re kergoth slept well? Aug 04 19:33:26 koen: not sure. I just found out that .dev had 27 when e was up to 32 Aug 04 19:33:26 it's up to date in .dev Aug 04 19:33:26 koen: they're probably still 26 or 27. I'll update oz354x soon Aug 04 19:37:42 ibot: botmail for JustinP: entice needs esmart stuff to function, so it seems the deps are messed up in the feeds Aug 04 20:07:53 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r72b37117... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gpe-timesheet: Add fixed 0.31, drop old 0.21. Aug 04 20:08:04 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r78c698a4... 10/ (33 files in 7 dirs): gpe-conf: drop older versions Aug 04 20:08:09 uh, that was _slow_ Aug 04 20:08:13 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfdcf3344... 10/ (21 files in 6 dirs): libgpewidget: updated to 0.114 Aug 04 20:08:21 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rfe2e9b65... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.2.0.bb): gpe-conf: added 0.2.0 Aug 04 20:08:35 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r5fa35b7b... 10/ (1 conf/distro/openzaurus-3.5.4.2.conf): oz 3.5.4.2: prefer newer versions of gpe components Aug 04 20:08:46 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r3491d9f2... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: added flite Aug 04 20:08:51 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r5764283f... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: added madplay Aug 04 20:08:54 hey florian Aug 04 20:09:02 better :-) Aug 04 20:10:42 koen, syncing apparently works again Aug 04 20:11:37 eFfeM-away: the ciabot was a bit sick Aug 04 20:13:06 ah, ok Aug 04 20:13:49 back to movie Aug 04 20:56:24 i got busybox built ok - now im trying to figure out the best way to try it out on the Z - since this is my first successful build of anything :) Aug 04 20:57:19 do those of you out there that build ipks set up a feed on your lan or what? Aug 04 21:01:01 I just transfer the packages to the device (scp) & then install them via shell Aug 04 21:02:39 poushag: On my fedora box I used the web-filesharing thingy(I forgot the name right now) and used it to share the deploy/ipkg directory. You need to run ipkg-make-index first to get the packages file Aug 04 21:03:03 then you can use your machine as your own personal feed :) Aug 04 21:03:25 koen: Xcalibrate proto and lib now in git Aug 04 21:03:40 mallum_: whooooooooooo! Aug 04 21:04:33 koen: will now push the kdrive patch Aug 04 21:06:43 i used scp just before asking - but it was getting laborious and i figured that it would get really tedious when dependencies start to kick in Aug 04 21:07:38 i was thinking of editing the apache config - is that what you meant hvontres? Aug 04 21:09:21 mallum_: OE has patches called "kdrive-use-evdev", do you know what those are about? Aug 04 21:09:43 and if i make the ipk index will all those annoying locale ipks show up in there? Aug 04 21:09:58 mallum_: http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/xorg-xserver/xserver-kdrive Aug 04 21:09:58 koen: do you have url ? Aug 04 21:10:20 poushag: everything in deploy/ipk will show up there Aug 04 21:10:30 well i suppose they willbe in the index - but will i see them on the Z package manager? Aug 04 21:10:56 dunno Aug 04 21:11:01 I never use the package manager Aug 04 21:11:12 gets a bit tedious is you have >12k packages Aug 04 21:11:41 yeah - maybe i wont use it either since i know what i just built anyway Aug 04 21:11:57 koen: urg Aug 04 21:12:50 koen: some people did this crazy patch to make xephyr ! support evdev so a single machine with multiple heads and multiple kb's / mice could be runs with Xephyrs on every head Aug 04 21:12:54 do i have to cd to the deloy/ipk dir and run ipkg-make-index there - or is it run on the Z? Aug 04 21:13:00 koen: if that makes any sense Aug 04 21:13:39 koen: but that is where that and the other evdev patches are from at least. why they are there I do not know. Aug 04 21:14:18 mallum_: jg_ was talking about evdev support and I noticed those patches a bit later Aug 04 21:14:30 so I was curious what those patches were about Aug 04 21:15:10 i guess it runs on the Z because it doesnt seem to exist on the build machine Aug 04 21:15:52 poushag: 'bitbake package-index' Aug 04 21:16:16 k thx koen Aug 04 21:16:29 run from any dir? Aug 04 21:17:25 koen: Im 99% sure that not related Aug 04 21:18:47 nm i get it - it builds the package-index from same dir as other bitbake commands Aug 04 21:21:06 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r06d89437... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): linphone: upgraded to 1.3.99 (console), courtesy of Thomas Reitmayr Aug 04 21:21:14 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r00db812f... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages.bb: added linphone Aug 04 21:21:24 koen: I guess entice isn't getting auto esmart deps....probably just needs to be manually added to RDEPENDS Aug 04 21:22:41 JustinP: I also can't figure out how to use entice :) Aug 04 21:23:48 heh Aug 04 21:24:19 entice nor entince shows any pictures Aug 04 21:24:28 just the entice screen Aug 04 21:24:57 it could also be possible that the entice built is too old....perhaps try a newer SRCDATE? Aug 04 21:25:08 * JustinP will try to remember to test it when my current build finishes Aug 04 21:25:13 build(s) Aug 04 21:25:16 I don't have an OZ tree atm Aug 04 21:25:30 ah Aug 04 21:25:31 well Aug 04 21:25:43 I'll try to build it in a sec.... Aug 04 21:26:00 e17 is a lot faster than I expected Aug 04 21:26:05 :-) Aug 04 21:26:24 I was pleasantly surprised as well Aug 04 21:26:33 now I just need to figure out how to get a notification area into a shelf Aug 04 21:26:41 (or write a backlight module) Aug 04 21:27:00 hey lrg Aug 04 21:27:07 hey koen Aug 04 21:28:56 hi lrg Aug 04 21:29:24 koen: using somebodys free wifi service at Edinburgh railway station. It cuts out everytime a train pulls into platform 1 :) Aug 04 21:29:33 hey florian Aug 04 21:29:34 :) Aug 04 21:29:55 koen: how is nbp ? Aug 04 21:30:04 faster ;) Aug 04 21:30:20 florian: cool :) Aug 04 21:30:56 lrg: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/index.php?path=screenshots/ Aug 04 21:31:37 koen: holy crap - very good :) Aug 04 21:31:50 lrg: I built a softfloat (OZ) image yesterday - worked out of the box incuding suspend and its much faster than Familiar. Aug 04 21:32:21 florian: excellent. has anyone tried angstrom on nbp ? Aug 04 21:32:39 koen: did you? Aug 04 21:32:45 lrg: not yet, that requires a patched kernel for EABI Aug 04 21:33:01 either 2.6.9+eabi or 2.6.17+ nbp hacks Aug 04 21:33:02 florian: sadly not, I'm very short on time :( Aug 04 21:33:50 koen: did the pcb work ok as a build machine ? Aug 04 21:34:02 train pulls into p 1 Aug 04 21:34:08 okay, sounds like i need to fight these stupid kernel image tools... Aug 04 21:36:57 nite Aug 04 21:39:38 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * reb7d96a0... 10/ (1 packages/e17/entice_20060128.bb): entice: add explicit esmart RDEPENDS Aug 04 21:42:09 nite all Aug 04 21:44:21 koen: I'll try building the new e17 in oz354x before I try entice Aug 04 21:46:40 JustinP: cool, many thanks Aug 04 22:10:14 koen: I can expose my oz354x feed for you as well if you like Aug 04 22:10:47 JustinP: that would be great Aug 04 22:10:58 (as I walk to my bed) Aug 04 22:11:04 'night all Aug 04 22:11:15 ok, well le tme know when you wan tto use them.... Aug 04 22:11:28 * JustinP slaps his thumbs Aug 05 00:16:29 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * rf61b7a5b... 10/ (34 files in 4 dirs): efl, e17: sync with .dev **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 05 02:59:56 2006