**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 09 02:59:56 2006 Aug 09 04:32:41 hrw|gone: ummm...why did you drop emacs? Aug 09 04:42:35 * emte chuckles about boot times Aug 09 04:42:46 intial boot times 5-20min Aug 09 06:29:35 hi Aug 09 06:30:57 JustinP: emacs-x11? lack time to build it with .oz354x - if you want it then push working version Aug 09 06:34:25 hello Aug 09 06:42:07 poushag: sorting works for files Aug 09 06:42:43 poushag: http://www.openembedded.org/repo/org.openembedded.dev/packages/ works also for dirs Aug 09 06:43:23 hi hrw, will try again Aug 09 06:44:25 still not working -what browser are you using? Aug 09 06:45:23 oh wait - thats a different url Aug 09 06:46:37 ok that one does work - sry bout earlier - its late here and my eyes are heavy Aug 09 06:47:48 9:9 here Aug 09 06:47:57 I will go to work Aug 09 06:48:17 ok have a good day Aug 09 06:48:42 this link should be in the header of this irc channel Aug 09 06:49:37 cu Aug 09 06:50:03 thx man ttyl Aug 09 07:01:14 hi koen Aug 09 07:03:49 under http://www.openembedded.org/repo/ the oldest files in .dev are from jul 18 - were they relocated from another repository or something? i expected to see a much wider range of dates Aug 09 07:04:39 koen that filebrowser link doesnt sort by dates - thats why hrw used the repo one Aug 09 07:05:44 (try clicking last-modified - it doesnt work) Aug 09 07:06:03 poushag: the /repo/ link is scary apache output Aug 09 07:06:43 scary? how? Aug 09 07:08:06 it works and thats all that concerns me - hrw seemed to agree Aug 09 07:08:29 http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages/avahi?sort=desc&order=Last+modified& works for me Aug 09 07:09:17 and not only that - the scary apache stuff is waaaay easier to read on Z konqueror Aug 09 07:17:37 well im going to sleep -good night Aug 09 07:19:35 morning (again) Aug 09 07:20:07 hey hrw|work Aug 09 07:20:13 * hrw|work got Scythe Kama Bay - home machine will get lower temp inside Aug 09 07:21:13 its 120mm fan which can be mounted in 3x5.25" bays Aug 09 07:21:44 that would be an option to replace my dying hd fans Aug 09 07:22:03 ~change 55 pln to eur Aug 09 07:22:09 55.00 Zloty (PLN) makes 14.2014 Euro (EUR) (from http://www.xe.com/) Aug 09 07:22:10 quite cheap Aug 09 07:22:17 or I could just buy a thecus 2100, add OE support for it and use that :) Aug 09 07:22:24 what is it? Aug 09 07:22:39 intel IOP + 2x sata + 1x gbit Aug 09 07:22:46 and it takes normal ram Aug 09 07:23:47 dan williams added a patch for ioplinux to OE ages ago, but he didn't respond to my comments Aug 09 07:23:48 ah Aug 09 07:25:34 last question - i see packages updated in .dev and i want to know wht the change was about (say the changes since jul 18 to ipkg-utils) - is running mtn log the best way to do that? and then piping the output of the log into grep maybe? what would you guys recommend? Aug 09 07:25:54 hey XorA Aug 09 07:26:04 hey koen Aug 09 07:26:07 morning all Aug 09 07:26:11 hi xora Aug 09 07:26:57 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=20703&hl= <- morons Aug 09 07:27:10 ~stab grub Aug 09 07:27:18 ~kill grub Aug 09 07:27:18 * ibot runs at grub with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. Aug 09 07:27:21 * ibot shoots a magneto-ionized fluxtachyon gun at grub Aug 09 07:27:22 ~lart grub Aug 09 07:27:22 * ibot slaps grub upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh Aug 09 07:27:45 what use is a freaking /boot/grub/menu.lst if grub ignores it? Aug 09 07:28:04 well, ignores half of it Aug 09 07:28:16 grub randomly decides to timeout or not Aug 09 07:28:40 If I ever colo a server, grub is not going to be installed Aug 09 07:36:24 ~lart the cvs version of poppler with bad PV Aug 09 07:36:25 * ibot squeezes the cvs version of poppler with bad PV till the cvs version of poppler with bad PV turns blue like papa smurf Aug 09 07:37:01 how do I fix it so 2006XXXX is < 0.5.3? Aug 09 07:37:10 hi all Aug 09 07:37:34 XorA: 0.5.2+cvs2006xxxx Aug 09 07:37:49 koen: yes, but for upgrades Aug 09 07:38:05 koen: as I suspect oz 3.5.4 has the 2006XXXX version as a package Aug 09 07:38:19 XorA: 1:0.5.2+cvs2006xxxx Aug 09 07:38:24 use epoch Aug 09 07:38:29 manually remove that 2006xxx package Aug 09 07:38:30 or 0:0.5.2.... Aug 09 07:38:35 OE doesn't support epochs Aug 09 07:38:37 koen: what about users? Aug 09 07:38:53 so I have to PV="1:${PV}" Aug 09 07:39:05 XorA: that breaks Aug 09 07:39:13 XorA: we tried it with X11R7.x Aug 09 07:39:34 koen: but for OE I can force the priority of 2006 version lower Aug 09 07:39:46 koen: and the PV needs fxed for the output ipkg Aug 09 07:40:19 XorA: fix the PV to be correct in .dev Aug 09 07:40:30 I do not wish to be bug-compatible Aug 09 07:41:08 * XorA tries to make life easy for hrw|work though Aug 09 07:43:15 hmz Aug 09 07:44:06 another question which i only ask because i only seem to find answers when i ask questions, so please ignore: why does flex-native all of a sudden error out because LC_MESSAGES seems to be undefined? Aug 09 07:44:55 XorA: hrw|work doesn't use .dev, does he? Aug 09 07:45:44 morning all Aug 09 07:45:52 hey RP Aug 09 07:46:28 hi RP Aug 09 07:47:44 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r39915e18... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Aug 09 07:47:44 usermanual: Add a "Reference" section to the manual. Document the distutils, Aug 09 07:47:44 update-alternatives and update-rc.d classes in the reference section. Each Aug 09 07:47:44 is documented in a seperate file so they can be easily moved elsewhere and Aug 09 07:47:44 so it's easier to edit seperate class reference information. Aug 09 07:48:05 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/08/09/sharp-zaurus-jtag-cable/ for those who doe snot saw it yet Aug 09 07:48:50 okay i know the solution, but not the reason Aug 09 07:49:00 flex-native needs an -O flag to build correctly Aug 09 07:51:01 v8jlene: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07 Aug 09 07:51:43 v8jlene: thanks for expanding our docs Aug 09 07:54:26 koen: It's a start... my .bb file stuff is probably more useful but I need to think about more about the order of stuff in that. Aug 09 07:56:19 koen: The update-rc.d stuff isn't showing up on the web page. It's fine when I docbook2html locally. Aug 09 07:57:23 v8jlene: the website uses a phpscript to strip out the header Aug 09 08:00:22 koen: You might want to check it at some point to see why the last page has no content - this one: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s03 Aug 09 08:00:43 I'm checking that since 10 minutes ago :) Aug 09 08:03:41 v8jlene: it's working now Aug 09 08:04:01 morning folks Aug 09 08:04:18 v8jlene: for some reason it's using a different header, so I had to change the search string for the split Aug 09 08:04:41 koen: Yep, looks fine now. Aug 09 08:04:46 it now does '$dbarray1 = explode('
', $dbhtml);' instead of '$dbarray1 = explode('
', $dbhtml);' Aug 09 08:05:50 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r72eaf9dd... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Aug 09 08:05:50 poppler_0.5.3.bb : new version Aug 09 08:05:50 poppler_20060418.bb : fix PV Aug 09 08:32:21 * koen hooks the usermanual into the viewmtn update script Aug 09 08:54:13 does anyone have any experience with newlib? Aug 09 09:19:10 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r9c203648... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): usermanual: Add details on the autotools class to the reference section. Aug 09 09:32:15 /cr Aug 09 09:44:09 good morning Aug 09 09:50:10 03xora 07org.oe.dev * r29f18c2c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Aug 09 09:50:10 gnome-vfs-dbus_svn.bb : dbus_connection_disconnect is now called Aug 09 09:50:10 dbus_connection_close, patch to fix. Aug 09 10:28:45 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r81da83ba... 10/ (12 files in 2 dirs): dbus: add dbus-glib to PROVIDES Aug 09 10:28:46 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r6be23872... 10/ (1 packages/devmem2/devmem2.bb): devmem2: fix SRC_URI Aug 09 10:28:52 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rda567461... 10/ (1 packages/puzzles/puzzles_r6712.bb): puzzles: add r6712 Aug 09 10:28:58 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * ra95d37a1... 10/ (12 files in 2 dirs): x*: delete some empty folders Aug 09 10:29:05 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r6172d35f... 10/ (9 files in 9 dirs): xorg: use bzip2 compressed source tarballs Aug 09 10:29:39 hey sirfred Aug 09 10:29:46 Morning. Aug 09 10:29:48 koen: Hi Aug 09 10:49:14 ping x29a Aug 09 10:52:03 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r4c592719... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): Aug 09 10:52:03 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Increase Binutils versions Aug 09 10:52:03 * Lets increase preferred binutils versions from 2.15.94.0.1 -> 2.17 Aug 09 11:34:47 anyone familiar with the git fetcher around? Aug 09 11:35:17 * RP hides Aug 09 11:35:44 * RP wrote it... Aug 09 11:36:09 RP, I need to make a bb file for u-boot that uses source from a git tag Aug 09 11:36:24 I can't find any examples in the existing bb files Aug 09 11:36:36 Crofton: linux-openzaurus_2.6.17+git.bb Aug 09 11:36:37 Crofton: packages/linux/*git* Aug 09 11:36:44 hmmm Aug 09 11:36:45 ok Aug 09 11:36:54 I am not real familiar with git Aug 09 11:37:11 Crofton: add ;protocol=git to the url though... Aug 09 11:37:16 * RP needs to push that Aug 09 11:37:35 much more efficient that the default of rsync Aug 09 11:38:01 and rsync is going to be removed Aug 09 11:38:21 hrw|work: right :). We should change the default in bitbake Aug 09 11:38:31 The fetcher is a bit evil and started as a bit of a hack but is slowly improving over time Aug 09 11:38:44 I fixed a lot of its space issues Aug 09 11:39:13 The git protocol didn't exist when it was written :) Aug 09 11:44:13 does it take the text based tags? Aug 09 11:44:20 the git fetcher? Aug 09 11:45:55 Crofton: yes Aug 09 11:46:21 thanks Aug 09 11:47:00 Guess I need to cross the street and make a new u-boot bb file so it iwll build for omap OSK board again Aug 09 11:47:59 * Crofton Crofton ssh's across the street Aug 09 11:59:50 does somebody know how to handle a "mtn: warning: orphaned node conflict on node 12835, dead parent 11206, name autohell.patch" when merging? Aug 09 12:01:41 tmbinc: try asking njs Aug 09 12:03:21 tmbinc: it means that on one side of the merge, someone deleted a directory Aug 09 12:03:40 tmbinc: but on the other side of the merge, there was a file added to that directory (named "autohell.patch", in this case) Aug 09 12:04:15 tmbinc: to avoid the conflict, before you merge, either delete that file or move it to some other directory that will survive the merge Aug 09 12:06:45 can i display more details about that, i.e. from which directory it came? Aug 09 12:09:59 re Aug 09 12:10:06 hi tmbinc Aug 09 12:10:11 hey woglinde Aug 09 12:14:12 RP: ping Aug 09 12:14:21 he hrw Aug 09 12:14:26 ho woglinde Aug 09 12:35:15 njs: sorry, i can't get this resolved. it must be something in the python directory, but neither "removing the python/* from one branch" helped, nor "copying python/* from one branch to another" (agreed, that was a bad idea), nor "removing the directory containing autohell.patch" (not sure though if i grabbed the right one) Aug 09 12:36:02 hmm Aug 09 12:36:11 did you try removing autohell.patch? Aug 09 12:36:22 it would be a serious help if i would knew which directory "parent 11206" is Aug 09 12:36:22 13896 balister 25 0 608m 331m 1196 R 93.5 76.3 1:28.35 python Aug 09 12:36:28 so i can only guess Aug 09 12:36:38 tmbinc: you can do 'mtn get_roster | less' and search for that number Aug 09 12:36:58 oh, looks like i've now found the correct one Aug 09 12:37:00 tmbinc: sorry about this, it's just a temporary interface, and our SoC student is working hard on a better one Aug 09 12:37:59 ...well... right now he's on a cross-country road trip, but in theory he will have a better one within the next month or so! Aug 09 12:38:17 hehe Aug 09 12:38:42 well, as long as there is *any* way (and a person who can tell you the way) it's no problem for me. Aug 09 12:38:47 nod Aug 09 12:38:51 you figured it out now? Aug 09 12:39:46 well, i've removed directory in python/ which contained an "autohell.patch" on one side of the merge. Aug 09 12:40:02 i'll guess i'll fix that after the merge then Aug 09 12:40:17 hrw|work: pong Aug 09 12:42:39 http://pastebin.ca/123620 Aug 09 12:43:07 This bb file which I called u-boot_LABEL_2006_06_30_2020.bb Aug 09 12:43:24 causes bb to grow memory until it is killed Aug 09 12:43:49 during parsing Aug 09 12:44:06 Crofton: That number of underscores in the name probably causes the overrides code to go a bit mad :) Aug 09 12:44:19 hmmm Aug 09 12:44:22 bother Aug 09 12:45:23 I was hoping it would pare everything after the first undercore as PV Aug 09 12:45:27 and pass it in Aug 09 12:45:39 so you could do a new version, just by changing the name Aug 09 12:45:43 of the bb file Aug 09 12:46:02 Crofton: It might well not be that but its the first thing I'd rule out Aug 09 12:46:20 yeah Aug 09 12:46:26 checking with simpler name now Aug 09 12:47:05 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rbc0630d8... 10/ (1 conf/distro/maemo-1.0.conf): maemo: fix feeds Aug 09 12:47:10 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r14667242... 10/ (1 conf/distro/include/angstrom.inc): angstrom: correct email address Aug 09 12:52:57 RP: read my mesg Aug 09 12:53:58 Crofton: you could include a bit of python/shell in the .bb so change '-' to '_' Aug 09 12:54:21 hrw|work: I didn't get it - you're not registered with nickserv Aug 09 12:54:30 ops Aug 09 12:54:47 changing the name has it building Aug 09 12:54:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r8a61fc94... 10/ (83 files in 40 dirs): lots of files: fix my mailaddress Aug 09 12:55:50 anyone have an exmaple of using python to dork with PV? Aug 09 12:56:10 I hate the idea, but like the idea of passing in the version string Aug 09 12:56:25 Crofton: any opie stuff Aug 09 12:56:43 Crofton: opie do 1.2.1 -> 1_2_1 Aug 09 12:56:52 thanks Aug 09 12:57:39 * koen hugs sed Aug 09 12:58:40 I bet it does it in inherit opie ... Aug 09 12:59:52 koen hehe Aug 09 13:26:19 TAG = "${bb.data.getVar('PV',d,1).replace('.', '_')}" Aug 09 13:26:38 Will that create a variable tag by replacing .'s in PV with _'s? Aug 09 13:26:54 yes Aug 09 13:27:25 still waiting for my tool chain to rebuild .... Aug 09 13:27:54 looks PR was bumped in gcc 4.1.1 stuff Aug 09 13:29:02 zecke fixed our toolchains last week Aug 09 13:29:57 wish I had run bitbake after my update ast night :) Aug 09 13:32:22 would anyone mind if I renamed the openomap distro to opensca? Aug 09 13:32:46 kergoth, made the the openomap distro file when I started messing with the OSK board Aug 09 13:33:14 but I really want to use the distro to build images suitable for the software defined radio work we do Aug 09 13:35:02 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r706fffd6... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): cairo: add 1.2.2 release and drop the bugridden 1.2.0 Aug 09 14:04:53 good morning Aug 09 14:05:40 i find that browsing the metadata via konqueror works well to tell me what was updated recently (when sorting on date) Aug 09 14:06:26 i usually do this while feeding the kids breakfast - they eat slowly and i have time to read while they are chewing Aug 09 14:07:06 and im actually using the Z to browse Aug 09 14:07:15 poushag: the rss feed give a much better impression Aug 09 14:07:27 since the timestamps aren't garanteed to be correct Aug 09 14:08:19 but if i want to know more about what has changed in a package i dont have a good option - tried corsair and it doesnt seem to have a way to show th timestamps or sort on them - or to screen out all the stuff that is not .dev branch Aug 09 14:09:16 is there another rss reader for opie? or another way to get that info on the Z? Aug 09 14:09:55 what i really want would be like a way to get cvs history of each package Aug 09 14:10:22 but since we dont use cvs...im kinda at a loss Aug 09 14:10:45 mtn log Aug 09 14:11:00 does mtn run on the Z? Aug 09 14:11:09 yes Aug 09 14:11:16 ipkg install monotone-6 Aug 09 14:11:23 http://www.openembedded.org/aggregator/sources <- sorted by date Aug 09 14:11:39 http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/branch.psp?branch=org.openembedded.dev <- sorted by date as well Aug 09 14:12:58 ok thx koen will try those urls - after installing mtn on Z do i have to do other things before running the mtn log command? Aug 09 14:13:19 get the OE.mtn file, etc Aug 09 14:18:07 alright - as i expected - just not sure how much space all that mtn stuff will take - any idea? Aug 09 14:19:12 poushag: 100M database Aug 09 14:19:21 128M working copy Aug 09 14:21:47 NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (1270/3923) [32 %]ERROR: Error in executing: /home/balister/oe_home/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uboot/u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020.bb Aug 09 14:21:47 ERROR: Exception:bb.MalformedUrl Message:'_')} Aug 09 14:21:47 ERROR: Printing the environment of the function Aug 09 14:21:47 ERROR: '_')} while parsing /home/balister/oe_home/org.openembedded.dev/packages/uboot/u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020.bb Aug 09 14:22:05 any thoughts? Aug 09 14:23:16 hey koen, can i look at the viewmtn page in web browser without the sidebar? Aug 09 14:23:36 not that I know off Aug 09 14:25:38 Crofton: Looks like you are missing an @ to make it python - ie should be "${@bb etc Aug 09 14:26:18 "mtn log " is busted in 0,28 at least.. takes for ever and gives you stuff totally unrelated to the file... Aug 09 14:28:30 thanks v8jlene Aug 09 14:28:38 on to the next problem :) Aug 09 14:31:30 anyone claiming xorg maintainer-ship ? Aug 09 14:33:47 ade|desk: you! Aug 09 14:34:03 koen lol Aug 09 14:34:17 v8jlene: it's indeed busted in .28, but fixed in HEAD/trunk Aug 09 14:35:17 koen: Ah, good. It's really annoying not working... Aug 09 14:36:34 v8jlene: there's also a python version that's a lot faster in the trac-monotone branch Aug 09 14:38:23 koen: I'll take a look at it (tommorow!). Thanks. Aug 09 14:40:25 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r64ba45dc... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-lib/diet-x11_X11R7.1-1.0.1.bb): diet-x11 X11R7.1: re-add xim.patch Aug 09 14:40:49 hrw, i only have 92mb of space on my Z :( Aug 09 14:41:33 is there no way for me to get mtn rev hitory on just one package at a time (without having the whole db)? Aug 09 14:43:30 well maybe i can use the db on my build machine and connect to it using the Z? Aug 09 14:43:42 i guess ssh would work ok for that Aug 09 14:43:58 but if im not at home its no good Aug 09 14:45:23 * poushag is not a happy camper at the thought of not having simple web browser access to package revision history Aug 09 14:47:22 poushag: feel free to write such a tool Aug 09 14:47:25 hey zecke Aug 09 14:47:27 njs, ping Aug 09 14:47:33 hey Aug 09 14:47:39 hi zecke Aug 09 14:47:50 poushag: one important thing: We need a case sensitive filesystem or DMG Aug 09 14:47:51 re Aug 09 14:48:07 koen, if my skills were compatible with such a task i would be happy to try Aug 09 14:48:32 zecke - i was waiting for you to say that again :) i saw it the last two times but only after you were already offline Aug 09 14:49:10 hehe Aug 09 14:49:11 zecke, i have a solution to that - make a disk image and format it as case sensitive hfs Aug 09 14:49:41 then mount the disk image and put all oe on it Aug 09 14:49:49 did WORKDIR used to be W? Aug 09 14:49:50 I did that on my ibook Aug 09 14:50:04 poushag: but I reinstalled my macbook Aug 09 14:50:16 ping mr_nice_slacker Aug 09 14:50:24 block 21 unlocked Aug 09 14:50:24 erasing block 21: 0 Aug 09 14:50:24 addr: 0x002ABD12 Aug 09 14:50:24 verify: Aug 09 14:50:24 addr: 0x002ABD12 Aug 09 14:50:25 Done. Aug 09 14:50:27 jtag> Aug 09 14:50:29 looks good Aug 09 14:50:32 gotta run to the postoffice quick Aug 09 14:50:46 ok so you have case senstitivity on the whole macbook then zecke? Aug 09 14:51:56 x29a you could flash? Aug 09 14:52:02 yupp Aug 09 14:52:38 zecke: the usermanual on the website gets updated every half hour now Aug 09 14:52:46 zecke, sounds nice - but one thing i dont yet understand - what is broken without case sensitivity or what works much better with it? Aug 09 14:53:12 poushag: e.g. glibc has a file foo.s and foo.S Aug 09 14:55:03 zecke is that a theoretical example or for real? (i understand the theory, just want to know if it fixes a particular build tool or something to have case sensitivity implemented) Aug 09 14:55:18 poushag: it is real Aug 09 14:55:31 poushag: I had a failing cvs co on glibc Aug 09 14:55:35 poushag: due a .s and .S Aug 09 14:55:40 ok then we very much DO need case sensitivity Aug 09 14:56:01 did you add it to the wiki page? Aug 09 14:56:11 not yet Aug 09 14:56:20 k guess i will go ahead then Aug 09 15:02:21 morning all Aug 09 15:04:14 hi lrg Aug 09 15:07:37 hi liam Aug 09 15:10:45 hey liam Aug 09 15:11:18 hey lrg Aug 09 15:14:56 ok zecke, wiki updated - btw- i cant remember if i enabled case sensitivity on my Tiger install - how can i check that quickly? Aug 09 15:15:36 nm Aug 09 15:15:48 i just ran 'ls /ETC' and it worked Aug 09 15:16:00 poushag: using the Disk Utility Aug 09 15:16:08 looks like i will be making that disk image Aug 09 15:18:51 dont understand why macosx is an unix and the default filesystem options isnt case sensitivity Aug 09 15:19:06 join the club woglinde Aug 09 15:19:09 maybe to dont stress old customers who dont know better Aug 09 15:19:29 woglinde, are you also a mac addict? Aug 09 15:19:33 nope Aug 09 15:19:58 too bad - its quite a pleasant addiction with no adverse side effects :) Aug 09 15:20:30 any u-boot building gurus about? Aug 09 15:20:41 crofton whats the problem? Aug 09 15:20:49 i really enjoy those apple getamac tv ads Aug 09 15:20:56 well Aug 09 15:21:51 http://pastebin.ca/123772 Aug 09 15:22:24 error: version.h: No such file or directory Aug 09 15:22:25 woglinde: Should I get you a Mac? Aug 09 15:22:29 yeah Aug 09 15:22:41 but I think there is a CFLAGS issue Aug 09 15:22:49 is -i legit? Aug 09 15:22:51 crofton if I remeber correctly u-boot somehow depends on kernel-headers Aug 09 15:22:59 Crofton: -isystem Aug 09 15:23:24 -systems says the compiler dont look under /usr/include only take my include dirs with -I Aug 09 15:23:24 Crofton: man gcc, but -isysem is legitim Aug 09 15:23:28 there is a include dir in the u-boot source with version.h (and the other file) Aug 09 15:23:29 ups Aug 09 15:23:33 -isystems Aug 09 15:23:34 thansk zecke Aug 09 15:23:46 Crofton: it will look into the system dir as the last resort Aug 09 15:23:50 I think I need a -I./include :) Aug 09 15:24:07 Crofton: for some reasons OE and Makefile's hate each other Aug 09 15:24:15 yeah Aug 09 15:24:19 Crofton: 'we' (OE) overwrite CFLAGS from the Makefile Aug 09 15:28:26 the bb file uses oerunamke Aug 09 15:28:34 I am going to try just make Aug 09 15:28:53 fails differently Aug 09 15:29:13 don't do that Aug 09 15:29:21 add their CFLAGS to yours... Aug 09 15:29:22 I just did :) Aug 09 15:29:40 a) patch Makefile to += special options Aug 09 15:29:51 b) CFLAGS_append = "-uboot stuff" Aug 09 15:30:07 trying to figure out what the right thing is :) Aug 09 15:30:36 crfoton is there really a version.h? Aug 09 15:30:57 what says the include line in start.s Aug 09 15:32:36 #include Aug 09 15:32:44 okay Aug 09 15:32:49 same for version.h Aug 09 15:32:52 oh Aug 09 15:33:10 and is there a version.h around in the u-boot dir? Aug 09 15:33:24 and they exist in ./include in the u-bbot source Aug 09 15:34:09 okay than the compiler should invoke -I../include Aug 09 15:34:26 yeah, need to find where that happens in u-boot makefiles Aug 09 15:34:32 or -I$completepaththouboot/include Aug 09 15:34:42 and figure out how to stop OE from buggering it :) Aug 09 15:34:48 hmmm Aug 09 15:35:27 I'm going to do some more defective work Aug 09 15:36:22 I'm not sure if any of the bb files for u-bbot actually build right now Aug 09 15:38:12 lunch Aug 09 15:39:15 hrw|work: gpe-conf 0.2.1 is ready... Aug 09 15:39:24 hey zecke, in your experience using that disk image, could it be resized dynamically or is size static? Aug 09 15:39:26 push then Aug 09 15:41:50 it appears static Aug 09 15:53:25 zecke: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/launchd_152.bb Aug 09 15:58:51 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r183058fc... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.2.1.bb): gpe-conf: update to 0.2.1 Aug 09 15:58:56 hrhmh, companies should be forbidden from creating their own "opensource" licenses Aug 09 15:58:56 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r9b3a1e46... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-conf/gpe-conf_0.2.0.bb): gpe-conf: drop buggy 0.2.0 Aug 09 15:59:51 nchip: "shared-source" Aug 09 16:05:43 zecke i created a disk image but it didnt seem to allow me to choose case sensitivity as an option Aug 09 16:05:46 cu Aug 09 16:05:54 later hrw Aug 09 16:06:34 hi lrg Aug 09 16:06:39 koen: well I was looking at APSL2 for launchd, but seems it will be relicensed Apache license, so it should be ok Aug 09 16:06:43 lrg: Thanks for the patch. Will try and test later Aug 09 16:07:40 RP: thanks. I'm about 50% way through Takashi's requests Aug 09 16:07:41 nchip: the dependencies are still covered under the evil apple license Aug 09 16:16:07 ok got the case sensitivity done- option was under 'erase' tab - will add to wiki later Aug 09 16:17:32 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r78d2e10a... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gpe-icons: set package arch to 'all', follow the styleguide a bit more, fix DEPENDS/RDEPENDS, drop old versions Aug 09 16:27:35 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6308fd1a... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libpng: update to 1.2.12 Aug 09 16:55:14 woglinde: yeah, it worked Aug 09 16:55:20 have to try the image now tho Aug 09 17:16:44 I am building a cross toolchain for ARM. I successfully build the arm-gcc compiler but when I run it to compile anything it says ld can't find crt1.o. Any ideas? Aug 09 17:17:52 cyrus__: use OE to create the toolchain Aug 09 17:18:19 koen - I tried that as well but got tonnes of errors Aug 09 17:18:36 then report those errors Aug 09 17:19:05 * Crofton is hating make -e Aug 09 17:19:18 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r34480b0a... 10/ (1 packages/speex/speex_1.1.12.bb): speex: disable parallel make Aug 09 17:20:34 à d'main / bye Aug 09 17:20:58 Crofton: you only hate it when the makefiles are broken Aug 09 17:21:11 Crofton: which only happens 70% of the time ;) Aug 09 17:21:18 :) Aug 09 17:21:58 it seems like nothing I do to CFLAGS in uboot actually does anything Aug 09 17:22:15 since make has been told to use only the settings from the environment Aug 09 17:28:44 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r887cd4df... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): telepathy-gabble: add release, remove snapshot Aug 09 17:29:24 so uboot should never dork with CFLAGS at all Aug 09 17:29:38 rather it should add it's own flags? Aug 09 17:32:59 it should but the -I and -L flags it actually needs in some other var Aug 09 17:34:01 I'll try patching that way Aug 09 17:34:17 I am pretty confused about overrides from the environment right now :) Aug 09 17:34:36 Can't figure out what make -e does Aug 09 17:34:57 trying with a sample makefile that echos a variable Aug 09 17:36:58 ok got it Aug 09 17:37:19 confusing overrides from the command line with overrides from the environment Aug 09 17:39:29 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb13e1665... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): farsight: drop snapshot, add release Aug 09 17:39:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r824ce552... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gst-plugin-farsight: drop snapshot, add release Aug 09 17:40:39 So, how did u-boot ever compile with OE? Aug 09 17:42:54 Crofton: u-boot did compile at one point for ARM in OE, but its been a year of so since I tried it. Aug 09 17:43:36 1.1.4 deosn't for me, but it doesn't like the machine I am using at that rev Aug 09 17:45:58 I going to try 1.1.2 and see if that works, then look at the 1.1.2 Makefile if so Aug 09 17:49:40 cute, Xorg has an Xsdl nowadays Aug 09 17:52:52 re crofton Aug 09 17:55:56 heh u-boot 1.1.2 looks broken wrt to gcc 4. Aug 09 17:56:22 | cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mshort-load-bytes" Aug 09 17:56:22 | cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mapcs-32" Aug 09 17:59:02 hehe Aug 09 17:59:06 yes old compiler options Aug 09 17:59:30 I'm still not sure how it built ... Aug 09 19:01:28 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r3c0caf4e... 10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): sylpheed-claws: add mbox plugin Aug 09 19:09:50 hey. is mailing-list traffic low or it's only me? Aug 09 19:29:27 100 messages is low? Aug 09 19:30:18 CosmicPenguin: that was today? damn... have we been migrated to openembedded.org? Aug 09 19:30:29 heh - no Aug 09 19:30:32 I was just joshing you Aug 09 19:30:43 had you worried, though.. :) Aug 09 19:30:50 yeah :) Aug 09 19:30:57 no mails since yesterday. Something is broken by the looks of it Aug 09 19:31:12 probably hh.org related :-/ Aug 09 19:31:15 the mailserver must be sad Aug 09 19:31:34 france: ping - is the hh.org mailserver ok? The oe@ list doesn't seem well :-/ Aug 09 19:49:43 RP: only 3 weeks left till oe gets to use a non-broken mailserver Aug 09 20:01:15 hey koen Aug 09 20:02:03 hey mallum Aug 09 20:02:35 koen: I got my wireless mmx book, looks pretty interesting Aug 09 20:02:47 mallum: it does? Aug 09 20:03:03 I still get the impression it's all intel handwaving Aug 09 20:03:31 koen: yeah could still be, I've only skimmed it Aug 09 20:03:58 mallum: zeenix showed me that you can build an optimized gcc for the pxa270 by passing --target=xscale-foo-linux instead of arm-foo-linux Aug 09 20:04:16 sadly OE can't build that right now Aug 09 20:13:34 poushag: pong Aug 09 20:13:57 koen, do you have any thoughts on builind u-boot in OE? Aug 09 20:14:12 it seems like OE wants to override a bunch of stuff in the amkefile Aug 09 20:14:15 Crofton: no idea, sorry Aug 09 20:14:24 but the u-bbot makefile is very cross aware aready Aug 09 20:14:25 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r65cddc99... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb): linux-openzaurus: bump PR to get dependencies in modules recreated for feeds Aug 09 20:14:30 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r67ffe591... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gpe-conf: update to 0.2.1 Aug 09 20:14:47 so I am thinking of just running make and unsetting vars like CFLAGS Aug 09 20:43:38 njs - i am just checking on the likelihood of having simple web browser access to package revision history at some point - my skills are not up to doing a thing like that - but maybe you already have it in the plans for monotone Aug 09 20:44:03 anything? Aug 09 20:51:07 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd3250884... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-themes/gpe-theme-e17_0.1.bb): Aug 09 20:51:07 gpe-theme-e17: add a matching gtk+ theme for the default e17 theme Aug 09 20:51:07 * sample: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/screenshots/netbook-pro2.png Aug 09 21:00:20 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * ref93d38e... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-themes/gpe-theme-e17_0.1.bb): Aug 09 21:00:20 gpe-theme-e17: add a matching gtk+ theme for the default e17 theme Aug 09 21:00:20 * sample: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/screenshots/netbook-pro2.png Aug 09 21:18:27 hi Aug 09 21:19:01 hi CoreDump|home Aug 09 21:58:43 im trying to run ipkg-make-index but its not found - how do i get it? apt-get cant find it Aug 09 21:58:54 is that something i have to bitbake? Aug 09 22:21:38 poushag: do you mean package index? http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/UsefulTargets Aug 09 22:22:03 hmmm - maybe i do Aug 09 22:22:53 yeah thanks Aug 10 02:01:50 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * re99dc95c... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): usermanual: Document binconfig and pkgconfig in the reference section. Aug 10 02:06:37 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rd0b6240a... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Aug 10 02:06:37 usermanual: Add "class" to the end of the title of all the class Aug 10 02:06:37 documentation in the reference manual in preperation for some non class Aug 10 02:06:37 things being added. Aug 10 02:53:15 hrw|gone: well...the bbfiles do work, with qemu-0.8+ at least. Would you like me to send you some ipks? I have working ones. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 10 02:59:56 2006