**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 18 02:59:57 2006 Aug 18 03:44:41 stupid crl-alt-backspace ;( Aug 18 04:27:45 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rbcb7b770... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Aug 18 04:27:45 usermanual: Add details on fakeroot to the reference section. Update Aug 18 04:27:45 the carious places in the image_ipkg and rootfs_ipkg that talk about Aug 18 04:27:45 fakeroot to refer to the fakeroot section. Aug 18 05:56:18 O_Neil Aug 18 06:20:46 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * rf786bbfa... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/fakeroot.xml): usermanual: Run the spell checker over the fakeroot documentation. Aug 18 06:55:28 hello Aug 18 07:33:03 morning Aug 18 07:33:21 morning Aug 18 07:34:53 hey hrw|work Aug 18 07:57:30 hi zecke Aug 18 08:00:08 Luke-Jr hey Aug 18 08:04:14 someone other then koen maintain angstrom distro config? Aug 18 08:04:20 NOTE: multiple providers are available (ntp, ntp-ssl); Aug 18 08:04:20 NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime ntpdate Aug 18 08:07:06 RP: ping Aug 18 08:07:26 RP: is the 2.6er kernel 50% bigger in size and slower than a 2.4er kernel? Aug 18 08:08:03 larger it is Aug 18 08:08:19 zaurus configs had to be stripped to fit Aug 18 08:09:06 hi woglinde Aug 18 08:09:10 hi hrw Aug 18 08:12:58 zecke: hi? Aug 18 08:15:37 Luke-Jr: I do not think a 2.6er kernel is slower Aug 18 08:15:46 Luke-Jr: specially not on XScale cores Aug 18 08:16:01 Luke-Jr: IIRC 2.4.19 of MVista requires a 2.95 gcc Aug 18 08:16:03 I finally built angstrom gpe/opie images for tosa. few bugs exist in angstrom config and in few packages. Aug 18 08:16:21 Luke-Jr: which generates multiple store/load instructions because it doesn't know XScale exists Aug 18 08:16:21 hrw|work: next test is does it boot :-) Aug 18 08:16:30 Luke-Jr: which are generally slow on XScale Aug 18 08:16:31 hrw|work: I am guessing gpe no Aug 18 08:16:35 XorA: I assume that it does not boot Aug 18 08:17:25 hrw|work: mine mostly boots, just the Xfbdev locks the console so with no networking you are stuff, you can SaK it and recover vaugely sometimes Aug 18 08:19:14 zecke: ok... and you are telling me this why? :) Aug 18 08:20:58 or just idle conversation? =p Aug 18 08:22:10 zecke: pong Aug 18 08:22:20 zecke: bigger maybe, I'd not say slower Aug 18 08:22:48 morning all btw :) Aug 18 08:23:17 hi rp Aug 18 08:23:55 hey RP Aug 18 08:23:56 http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1339 - GPE Contacts 0.46 need dbus-glib Aug 18 08:23:58 hi RP Aug 18 08:24:01 hi Pendalar Aug 18 08:24:09 hi obergix[work] Aug 18 08:24:19 hi hrw|work Aug 18 08:24:39 bugzilla bot would be usefull Aug 18 08:24:49 hrw|work: dbus-glib is fun to build, pH5 was working on it Aug 18 08:25:59 XorA: fun? I just did 'bitbake dbus-glib' and it was built Aug 18 08:26:22 hrw|work: oh, he must have fixed it when I wasnt looking, at one point you had to hook it to your system dbus :-) Aug 18 08:26:48 hi zecke Aug 18 08:26:49 hi woglinde Aug 18 08:26:54 hoi pb Aug 18 08:27:02 that 'NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available' message is annoying Aug 18 08:27:31 hrw I took the lines from angstroem.conf and than it works for me with openzaurus Aug 18 08:27:58 hrw I think it has to do with settinge libc-kernel-header-package Aug 18 08:28:05 but not for sure Aug 18 08:29:40 can ipkg install packages from password protected feed urls? Aug 18 08:30:13 hey Aug 18 08:30:25 france: hey! Aug 18 08:30:37 zecke: hi Aug 18 08:32:12 pb_: hi, (only one tail today? Must be a casual day) Aug 18 08:32:30 hi france Aug 18 08:32:32 heh, indeed Aug 18 08:34:16 hrw|work: heh, i -think- its the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE. bitbake seems to be handling it incorrectly at the moment Aug 18 08:34:24 hi kergoth Aug 18 08:34:41 kergoth: just the man! Hi! Aug 18 08:34:47 hey Aug 18 08:35:21 morning kergoth Aug 18 08:36:36 kergoth: on the gpe mailing list Nils is claiming that the migration of the OE site is done. Can I zap the OE mailing list from HH.org? Aug 18 08:36:57 zap is a poor word, deactive, as the archives shoudl still remain. Aug 18 08:37:34 france: what to do with the MailingList-Id Aug 18 08:37:50 according to the RFC it should stay oe@handhelds.org, would you mind that? Aug 18 08:38:45 zecke: it is not so much mind, as I do not want any more hassles over the OE stuff... Aug 18 08:39:02 zecke: Nils is claiming it is all moved.. Is it not? Aug 18 08:39:18 I don't know Aug 18 08:39:19 france: afaik mickeyl is managing the last of the transition, i'm not in the loop Aug 18 08:39:46 zecke: tried tinderclient with bitbake 1.6.1? Aug 18 08:39:56 File "", line 72, in tinder_do_tinder_report Aug 18 08:39:56 TypeError: getVar() takes at least 2 arguments (1 given) Aug 18 08:40:27 kergoth: ah, you are the admin for the oe mailing list.. he is the admin for the angstrom-dev list.. Aug 18 08:40:41 DAMN Aug 18 08:40:55 which doesnt mean anything Aug 18 08:40:59 i wasnt involved in oe for over a year Aug 18 08:41:02 in any way, shape, or form Aug 18 08:41:05 until very recently Aug 18 08:41:05 as long as it is being maintained and I am in the loop, I do not mind... but if it is not being utilized ... Aug 18 08:41:23 as far as i know, mickeyl wants to tarnsition the mailing lists this weekend Aug 18 08:41:34 but you'd be best off emailing him to check on things Aug 18 08:43:29 france: There is no rush to instantly deactivate the lists. I'm sure someone will tell you once the transition is complete - personally, I have no idea what's going on... Aug 18 08:44:49 RP: there are too many people claiming this and that, but nobody that is being responsible for it. Aug 18 08:45:12 once again, as far as i'm aware, mickeyl is heading up the last of hte trasnsition Aug 18 08:45:14 RP: I would like to get things up... now is a good time, as the servers and software are being upgraded. Aug 18 08:45:20 and as far as i now, has done most of the rest of it as well Aug 18 08:45:25 i've not been involved at all Aug 18 08:45:45 other than updating the dns when mickeyl asks for changes Aug 18 08:46:33 france: If it helps, I can promise to notify you once the the transition is complete and the lists can be deactivated. I don't know the timescales and I guess you need mickeyl for that as he appears to be handling both lists Aug 18 08:47:12 RP: thanks...it is confusing, as Nils is claiming it has already been done... but... Aug 18 08:47:31 good morning Aug 18 08:47:48 france: what is Nils claiming? :-) Aug 18 08:48:44 that OE and angstrom have transfered to linux-to-go Aug 18 08:49:06 florian_kc: hi Aug 18 08:49:10 which means I can deactivate the OE and angstrom-dev mailing lists on hh.org? Aug 18 08:49:12 florian_kc: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1339 - GPE Contacts 0.46 need dbus-glib Aug 18 08:49:53 france: i'm curious as to what makes you think that nils statements are official stattements of the oe project. Aug 18 08:50:00 regardless, contact mickey Aug 18 08:50:02 lol Aug 18 08:50:17 france: no, the mailinglists are still at hh.org Aug 18 08:50:41 france: i guess he didn't know - only web and scm moved. Aug 18 08:50:49 kergoth: you say you are not running it...pb says not me... mickeyl and I do not talk...nils claims that linux-to-go is his site... he must know what is going on. Aug 18 08:51:03 france: "his"? Aug 18 08:51:25 france: The mailing lists have not been transferred yet - that much I know. Aug 18 08:51:29 france: don't spread FUD here Aug 18 08:51:45 BOYS: Calm down, take a step back Aug 18 08:51:52 florian_kc: I am not spreading FUD nor I am going to quote private e-mail to make you happy. Aug 18 08:51:56 recognize we all sit in the same boat, we do Free Software Aug 18 08:52:56 true :-) Aug 18 08:53:13 zecke: when is the oe meeting? Aug 18 08:53:50 florian_kc: 5th to 8th october and I think I have found a room Aug 18 08:54:04 florian_kc: but my garden is not big enough to provide accomodation :} Aug 18 08:54:26 http://www.openembedded.org/oedem - please edit Aug 18 08:54:28 hrw|work: true, i guess i can fix that :-) Aug 18 08:54:41 florian_kc: I suppose Aug 18 08:54:52 zecke: ok, great Aug 18 08:55:15 zecke: np, i have a brother and a good friend in berlin :-) Aug 18 08:55:31 zecke: Ania wants to go too Aug 18 08:56:36 hrw hm Aug 18 08:56:38 hrw|work: nice, but I have no lady to entertain here Aug 18 08:56:51 zecke: she will take care herself Aug 18 08:57:19 hm I shoould sent this dammit email Aug 18 09:01:41 furlongm_: hey Aug 18 09:06:51 furlongm_: as I have just mailed you. I have transfered the money, but I can only check the account statements once I'm home (I'm an analog person) Aug 18 09:13:27 BTW: What do you think about SPI? Aug 18 09:16:19 morning Aug 18 09:44:36 moin reenoo Aug 18 09:50:19 hi mickeyl Aug 18 09:50:25 hi guys! Aug 18 09:50:34 hrw|work: hey, I have fixed tinderclient.bbclass Aug 18 09:51:22 zecke: cool Aug 18 09:51:46 hrw|work: sadly glibc is the failing package, so testing takes some time Aug 18 09:53:09 zecke: I can test it Aug 18 09:53:31 mickeyl: http://www.openembedded.org/oedem Aug 18 09:54:56 hrw|work: did you add that page? thanks. i added a rough agenda yesterday Aug 18 09:55:19 thx Aug 18 09:55:33 mickeyl: I think we should consider spi-inc.org instead of creating and running our own e.V, Aug 18 09:56:47 zecke: ok, i need to look that up Aug 18 09:57:20 mickeyl: basicly they can manage the finances for us Aug 18 09:58:18 sounds very good. I have enough finance stuff tumbling over my head now that i'm freelancer :) Aug 18 09:58:20 zecke: e.V. == ngo? Aug 18 09:58:29 i aquired a fiscal consultant (Steuerberater) yesterday Aug 18 09:58:41 i'm a scientist, not a manager Aug 18 09:58:44 or whatever Aug 18 09:59:15 hrw|work: e.v. is legally registered non-profit community Aug 18 10:00:27 in germany Aug 18 10:01:29 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r5941ccc6... 10/ (1 classes/tinderclient.bbclass): classes/tinderclient.bbclass: Fix the getVar invocation and the test... Aug 18 10:02:57 hm topic change? Aug 18 10:03:03 btibake 1.4.4? Aug 18 10:03:27 good idea Aug 18 10:05:48 * mickeyl pours another cup of coffee Aug 18 10:06:18 hi mickeyl Aug 18 10:06:47 re. oedem, when we have an idea of who will be there in which timeframe, then we should refine the schedule, because there are some points which I'd like to discuss with all and some are of less relevance. Aug 18 10:06:55 morning RP. how are things @ ohand and in private? Aug 18 10:07:30 mickeyl: someone need to write about it to oe ML Aug 18 10:08:02 hrw|work: ok, i will handle this this weekend if no one beats me to it Aug 18 10:08:10 mickeyl: Things at ohand seem to be moving along ok :). Private life is problematic atm but is basically out of my control. I'll survive ;-) Aug 18 10:08:11 hrw|work: we need to make sure to not outgrow the 'room' (which we do not have 100% yet) Aug 18 10:08:34 zecke: btw., LaForge has volunteered to help us if we have room problems Aug 18 10:08:45 so that could be an opportunity as well Aug 18 10:08:47 zecke: thats understable Aug 18 10:09:18 RP: glad to hear that :) saw your last motocross pictures. darn, that was a couple of really steep hills weren't it? Aug 18 10:09:23 mickeyl: GMIT is moving to a new, not yet found, office Aug 18 10:09:34 mickeyl: it all depends on the size of the new office Aug 18 10:09:58 zecke: ah right. cool. get them to hire a Fabrikgebäude ;) Aug 18 10:10:13 mickeyl: motocross is dirk bikes, but yes, Cadwell has wonderful hills - I love that circuit... :) Aug 18 10:10:30 mickeyl: sure Aug 18 10:10:38 mickeyl: Backstein! Hinterhof! Aug 18 10:10:45 hehe Aug 18 10:11:26 mickeyl: do you know does someone check meta-opie-all for building for angstrom? Aug 18 10:11:54 hrw|work: i did -- last time i had time for oe work. Aug 18 10:11:59 some months ago Aug 18 10:12:07 ok Aug 18 10:12:12 i can start another run next week Aug 18 10:12:20 mickeyl: I have it running now Aug 18 10:12:23 ah cool Aug 18 10:14:56 is it me or is the 2.6 on collie initializing the display not 100% correctly? Aug 18 10:14:59 it flickers Aug 18 10:15:23 mickeyl: did not yet tested it Aug 18 10:15:38 mickeyl: Its entirely possible is doesn't Aug 18 10:15:58 I can confirm I can make the oedem btw :) Aug 18 10:16:03 yay! Aug 18 10:16:06 * mickeyl dances a jig Aug 18 10:16:13 that's pretty cool :) Aug 18 10:16:14 HEY Aug 18 10:16:34 now I only need to get rid of my mother and I can provide accoomodation for the more poor guys Aug 18 10:16:52 hehe Aug 18 10:17:00 take care about the students first Aug 18 10:17:35 fyi, i'm finally building a new dev workstation.. that coupled with getting my zaurii from mn soon, and i should be in a better position to be more effective at the oe work, start actively maintaining package metadata again Aug 18 10:17:39 :) Aug 18 10:17:44 ah more good news! Aug 18 10:17:48 cheers kergoth Aug 18 10:17:57 ~hail o-hand.com ;) Aug 18 10:18:00 * ibot bows down to o-hand.com ;) and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 18 10:18:05 2006 is looking to be a hell of a year. much better than 2005 Aug 18 10:18:16 ~curse 2005 for being such a sucky year to mickeyl Aug 18 10:18:16 note to self: never buy an xpc again, and especially never shove a 10k rpm drive in one with an ahtlon 64 Aug 18 10:18:18 May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, 2005 for being such a sucky year to mickeyl ! Aug 18 10:18:36 kergoth: heat or sound? or both? Aug 18 10:18:48 heat, random crashes during oe builds :'( Aug 18 10:18:52 bummer Aug 18 10:19:01 kergoth: still causing problems? Aug 18 10:19:36 was, i gave up and went back to windows for now, doig my development on remote machines atm. less convenient than a local one, but at least builds complete Aug 18 10:19:43 heh Aug 18 10:20:35 kergoth: mine is more stable after figuring out the fancontrol script in lm-sensors Aug 18 10:21:15 zecke: do you have a guitar at home for the late oedem nights? :) Aug 18 10:21:24 restarted build - this time with tinderclient Aug 18 10:21:45 mickeyl: I could get Al's Aug 18 10:21:58 that'd be cool Aug 18 10:22:20 i take my handcrafted 470 song trascriptions book with me Aug 18 10:22:45 then all you guys have the opportunity to hear me playing heh Aug 18 10:22:54 I will record it then Aug 18 10:23:01 mickeyl: and we can broadcast it using DVB-H Aug 18 10:23:04 mickeyl: and testing of alsa recording in zauruses Aug 18 10:23:04 heheh Aug 18 10:23:08 right Aug 18 10:23:34 RP: that noise was because I had touchclick sounds on.. Aug 18 10:23:46 hrw|work: Aha :) Aug 18 10:24:00 hrw|work: Were they distorting? Aug 18 10:24:02 RP: but when I boot poodle then altboot play one sound. sound is clear and ok but after it poodle generate noise Aug 18 10:24:24 hrw|work: The noise generation is the bug I keep dicussing with Liam Aug 18 10:24:34 ok Aug 18 10:24:58 btw, I found the jffs2/mtd bug in 2.6.18-rc so we should hopefully get a working 2.6.18 kernel Aug 18 10:25:12 Took me an age but I found it... Aug 18 10:29:26 RP: what was it? Aug 18 10:29:53 mickeyl: http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/patches/mtd_fix_chipops_locking-r0.patch Aug 18 10:30:41 hmm Aug 18 10:30:54 nand_release_device(mtd) destroys the chip structure? Aug 18 10:32:12 mickeyl: No, but it unlocks it for access in other places. As we run preempt, it can context switch, overrwrite it, switch back and you have corruption Aug 18 10:32:25 ah of course. PREEMPT. Aug 18 10:32:39 tough one. Aug 18 10:32:49 You need to hold the lock until you finish with the structure Aug 18 10:37:40 hi reenoo Aug 18 10:39:42 hail pb_ Aug 18 10:40:02 hail mickeyl Aug 18 10:41:02 http://www.openembedded.org/user/login : how may I create a login ? Aug 18 10:41:13 to be able to edit the oe wiki... Aug 18 10:44:47 hrw|work: join us in the world of static sounds :-) Aug 18 10:49:46 obergix[work]: that's a good question... i can't find a register button myself Aug 18 10:50:35 mickeyl: ;) Aug 18 10:52:43 morning all Aug 18 10:54:44 morning lrg Aug 18 10:57:04 hi lrg Aug 18 10:57:20 hi Liam Aug 18 10:58:16 hi all Aug 18 10:58:23 RP: will have new patch for you shortly. Aug 18 10:58:31 hey eFfeM Aug 18 10:59:30 lrg: I still haven't got to the last ones :-/. I did finally find the mtd bug though and ASoC is the next priority! Aug 18 11:00:03 RP: np, I'm also under load with other stuff. Such is life ;) Aug 18 11:02:20 hey mickeyl, RP, pb_, etc :P Aug 18 11:04:16 hi mithro. how's life? Aug 18 11:04:21 hi mithro Aug 18 11:04:41 okay Aug 18 11:04:54 just putting finishing touches on my honours proposal Aug 18 11:05:05 ~lart glibc for filesystem cases Aug 18 11:05:06 * ibot takes large quantities of Krispy Kream donuts and stuffs them one after another down glibc's throat until glibc puts on 150lbs for filesystem cases Aug 18 11:06:28 lrg: hey liam Aug 18 11:07:07 XorA: did postie bring stuff ? Aug 18 11:07:13 zecke: tch. you should follow drepper's advice and get a real filesystem. Aug 18 11:08:59 Is bitbake 1.4.4 required now? Aug 18 11:09:57 lrg: they havent posted it yet, they phoned me this morning though Aug 18 11:10:32 XorA: cool Aug 18 11:10:49 lardman: .oz354x req 1.4.4 Aug 18 11:10:58 XorA: it's a miserable day to be a postie anyway.. Aug 18 11:11:05 lrg: yeah Aug 18 11:11:23 pb_: It is not required to be real, just sane :) Aug 18 11:11:44 pb_: I should claim I use GNU (darwin) Aug 18 11:12:05 heh, right Aug 18 11:12:28 it uses mach and is like BSD (in contrast to System V) Aug 18 11:12:32 RMS must love it Aug 18 11:12:35 hrw|work: Thanks, might be worth updating the GettingStarted page Aug 18 11:14:56 * zecke adds installing GNU HURD to the agenda Aug 18 11:18:50 pb_: master, do you know dejagnu? Aug 18 11:19:02 pb_: did you ever try to use gdbserver to run tests? Aug 18 11:19:30 zecke: I've used dejagnu occasionally, but not recently. Aug 18 11:19:47 don't think I've ever tried to run tests under the gdbserver though Aug 18 11:19:57 (nor can I immediately think of a reason why you'd want to) Aug 18 11:20:13 pb_: I hope to execute the code remotely Aug 18 11:20:26 pb_: e.g. runing make check-gcc but let the code execute on a device Aug 18 11:21:00 zecke: isn't ssh the tool you want for that? I'm not sure what gdbserver would buy you. Aug 18 11:21:43 pb_: I had hoped I could upload the program through gdb Aug 18 11:21:53 but now that you say that :) Aug 18 11:22:14 iirc, gdbserver doesn't have that capability Aug 18 11:23:08 too bad Aug 18 11:23:36 I'm not really the dejagnu or gdbserver h4x0r though. you probably need someone like paul brook for that. Aug 18 11:23:52 I know he was doing some stuff to do with running the tests under qemu, which I always planned to put into oe. Aug 18 11:23:55 never did though :-} Aug 18 11:24:19 pb_: I will start adding a do_check task to OE Aug 18 11:24:32 rock Aug 18 11:24:35 pb_: and start with the -native tools Aug 18 11:24:44 pb_: sadly, quilt, autoconf, automake fail :( Aug 18 11:25:00 suck Aug 18 11:25:06 zecke: sbrshd is precicely for that task, ie. sending a binary to a target device.. Aug 18 11:25:27 and has been used for gcc testsuites specifically Aug 18 11:26:17 I'm uding arm-sim ATM Aug 18 11:26:26 as the target board Aug 18 11:26:35 it uses nfs thou as the transport.. but you need that anyway if the testsuite accesses any files Aug 18 11:27:19 how is sbrshd different from regular ssh? Aug 18 11:27:46 lol dejagnu can do rsh Aug 18 11:27:54 sbrsh is more insecure Aug 18 11:28:17 but it does nfs mounts for you and passes over fakeroot sessios Aug 18 11:28:21 session Aug 18 11:33:12 I'm trying to build angstrom with hardfloat support (for arm11 VFP). I've changed angstrom.inc to reflect this, however it fails on nothing provides virtual/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-gcc. Any ideas ? Aug 18 11:33:36 did you change TARGET_ARCH? Aug 18 11:34:08 zecke, afaik, I created a new machine and set it to armv6 Aug 18 11:34:19 * lrg checks for sure Aug 18 11:34:50 lrg: better leave that at 'arm' and tune/cpu for arm11 Aug 18 11:37:23 Hello. Any known problem with konqueror-embedded? It complains about not finding kde-config while configuring. Aug 18 11:37:40 zecke: TARGET_ARCH=arm, and in tune file I have TARGET_CC_ARCH="-march=armv6 -mtune=arm1136j-s", PACKAGE_ARCH="armv6" Aug 18 11:37:49 I suppose I don't need to have kde installed in the host machine, do I? Aug 18 11:37:58 zecke: i could be wrong though Aug 18 11:38:15 zecke: with the tune args Aug 18 11:39:14 sirfred: in a perfect world, you don't need to be installed Aug 18 11:39:47 lrg: They could be wrong, but that doesn't matter for the dependencies Aug 18 11:39:52 zecke: :) Aug 18 11:39:58 zecke: thanks Aug 18 11:40:00 lrg: also your PACKAGE_ARCH will make trouble Aug 18 11:40:21 be back in a minute Aug 18 11:40:22 zecke: should it be arm ? Aug 18 11:46:55 re Aug 18 11:47:21 lrg: I misread that PACKAGE_ARCH="armv6" is okay/right Aug 18 11:47:33 python generate *.pyc files - are they arch-related or not? Aug 18 11:47:47 lrg: just make sure it is in the list of compatible architectures otherwise you fail with installing them Aug 18 11:48:01 lrg: okay now let us find out why it isn't working Aug 18 11:48:07 zecke: thanks. I've also made a correction wrt mtune=arm1136jf-s Aug 18 11:48:27 zecke: I'm tryng again.... Aug 18 11:50:20 lrg: my gcc-cross_4.1.1.bb reads PROVIDES = "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}gcc" Aug 18 11:50:48 which should be arm-linux-angstrom-gnueabi-gcc Aug 18 11:50:51 :q Aug 18 11:50:53 lol Aug 18 11:51:23 hm Aug 18 11:51:29 so Aug 18 11:51:31 heading home Aug 18 11:51:34 bye till later Aug 18 11:55:02 zecke: confirmed on my system. It's rebuilding a gettext now.. Aug 18 11:57:35 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r899787fc... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): bitbake: added 1.6.0, dropped older Aug 18 11:57:51 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r31503632... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): bitbake: updated to 1.6.0 Aug 18 11:59:04 ~seen mickeyl Aug 18 11:59:19 mickeyl is currently on #htc-linux #oe #openezx #opie. Has said a total of 53 messages. Is idling for 55m 3s, last said: 'hi mithro. how's life?'. Aug 18 12:06:09 zecke: it's building now. changing -mtune from arm1136j-s to arm1136jf-s did the trick :) Aug 18 12:06:57 lrg: so compiling gcc-cross failed and then he had no other provider? Aug 18 12:07:12 thanks god, RP is fixing this dependency hell Aug 18 12:08:56 zecke: yep, gcc had no provider. change the -mtune with the correct cpu (and f flag) and all is ok Aug 18 12:09:49 hmm, I'm glad it works Aug 18 12:10:49 zecke: I'll let you know if it boots a kernel etc. it may require some more tuning.... Aug 18 12:11:46 zecke: I may have some more patches. btw is the oe list the correct place for patches. I sent an alsa patch yesterday for the device table Aug 18 12:12:03 lrg: bugtracker is more correct Aug 18 12:12:47 lrg: generate monotone key and send it to mickeyl/koen Aug 18 12:12:47 hrw|work: ok thanks Aug 18 12:13:27 hrw|work: ok, this may be easier (I am lazy at times) Aug 18 12:16:44 morning all Aug 18 12:19:16 morning Aug 18 12:25:22 I'm looking for a volunteer to build a package to check if a bug can be re-produced @ another system - anyhow some spare build capacity? Aug 18 12:27:20 pgfeller: which package? Aug 18 12:28:38 libvncserver (Bug 1312) Aug 18 12:29:40 started build Aug 18 12:29:59 thanks Aug 18 12:30:31 I would switch to libsdl-x11 instead of libsdl-qpe Aug 18 12:30:35 less problems Aug 18 12:30:37 hrw|work: pyc files are arch related Aug 18 12:30:52 RP: thx. then bitbake in OE is wrong Aug 18 12:31:24 zecke: The key to the dependency issue is the logging - we really need to add some sanity to the messages :) Aug 18 12:31:41 but that should work well with the msg class I've started, hopefully : Aug 18 12:31:43 :) Aug 18 12:33:24 RP: add an option to swow timestamps in messages Aug 18 12:33:47 hrw|work: Would that be useful? Aug 18 12:33:52 200608181450 NOTE: task umbaumba-17.3-r9 do_compile started Aug 18 12:34:18 RP: I had it months ago to track which task take most of time Aug 18 12:34:29 RP: with configurable timestamp it could rule Aug 18 12:34:55 hrw|work: It'd be easy to add - I just don't fancy a whole range of commandline options... Aug 18 12:35:40 RP: I share that 'hope' Aug 18 12:36:46 RP: MSG_TIMESTAMP_ENABLED = 1/0 MSG_TIMESTAMP_FORMAT = "%Y%m%d%H%M%s" (if I remember strftime modifiers ok) Aug 18 12:38:20 hrw|work: bitbake data isn't available at log time to look up those variables but that doesn't mean its impossible... Aug 18 12:39:29 hrw|work: change base.bbclass Aug 18 12:40:15 florian_pissed: are you in the pub ? Aug 18 12:40:29 lrg: hehe Aug 18 12:40:47 lrg: U.S. pissed, or pissed off I guess Aug 18 12:40:57 zecke: ah Aug 18 12:41:19 lrg: no, discussing with reenoo about gpe move :-( Aug 18 12:41:32 so pissed off Aug 18 12:43:22 pgfeller: NOTE: package libvncserver-0.8.2-r2: task do_build: completed Aug 18 12:43:40 pgfeller: use libsdl-x11 instead of libsdl-qpe and most of SDL problem vanish Aug 18 12:46:35 hrw: strange - w/o adding LDFLAGS += "-lstdc++" I always face a linker problem with libqte-mt.so.2 (clean re-build), but meckey nor you have this :-? Aug 18 12:47:50 hrw: the SDL problem I was able to overcome by adding libxext to DEPENDS Aug 18 12:48:52 pgfeller: Depends: libxtst6 (>= X11R7.0-1.0.1), libxext6 (>= X11R7.1-1.0.1), libxinerama1 (>= X11R7.0-1.0.1), libxrandr2 (>= X11R7.1-1.1.1), libxfixes3 (>= X11R7.1-4.0.1), libxdamage1 (>= X11R7.1-1.0.3), libc6 (>= 2.4), libssl0.9.7 (>= 0.9.7g), libcrypto0.9.7 (>= 0.9.7g), libx11-6 (>= X11R7.1-1.0.1), libz1 (>= 1.2.3), jpeg (>= 6b) Aug 18 12:51:04 pgfeller: for me it looks like x11vnc build from libvncserver recipe need more depends and does not even try to use sdl... Aug 18 12:52:19 hrw: yep - as far as I know x11vnc does not need SDL - but there's also a VNC viewer included which is based on SDL Aug 18 12:53:21 pgfeller: which did not get built here Aug 18 12:53:27 hrw: x11vnc I´ve not tested @ yet - 1st I'd like to stage libvncserver.a to create a package/receipt for fbvncserver-iPAQ afterwards Aug 18 12:57:05 pgfeller : it failed also on ppc/uclibc Aug 18 12:57:45 hwr: but I'm still not sure if something with my OE setup is not IO, as nobody else faces the linker problem () Aug 18 12:57:45 libqte-mt.so.2: undefined reference to Aug 18 12:57:45 `vtable for __cxxabiv1::__class_type_info' Aug 18 12:58:18 lfaistos: did it fail on SDL, or on libqte-mt? Aug 18 12:58:47 pgfeller : sdl Aug 18 12:59:43 strange : "svn: URL 'http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk/zaurusd' doesn't exist" during bitbake run whereas "svn co http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk zaurusd" works Aug 18 12:59:47 any idea ? Aug 18 12:59:56 lfaistos: can you please try to change the DEPENDS line in the .bb to DEPENDS = "virtual/libsdl virtual/libx11 libxext zlib jpeg" & give it a try? Aug 18 13:00:26 obergix[work]: yes? ' ' vs. '/' Aug 18 13:00:41 obergix[work]: the one command tries to checkout onething Aug 18 13:00:44 pgfeller : np. i'll give it a try Aug 18 13:00:55 obergix[work]: the other will checkout trunk and names it zaurusd Aug 18 13:00:58 lfaistos: or build libxext 1st to stage the necesssary libs Aug 18 13:01:02 lfaistos: thanks Aug 18 13:02:14 * ... have to leave for a moment - 'll be back on IRC in ~30 minutes Aug 18 13:03:17 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rac9e6c73... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Aug 18 13:03:17 bitbake: it is not PACKAGE_ARCH='all' as it contain python byte-compiled stuff which is arch related Aug 18 13:03:17 applied changes from 31503632aa868621c7106edd1358385e9c8f4267 Aug 18 13:03:17 through 1ce847551d29aa89a9004dbe9df99547f6f93e3f Aug 18 13:03:23 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r1ce84755... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): bitbake: it is not PACKAGE_ARCH='all' as it contain python byte-compiled stuff which is arch related Aug 18 13:03:29 zecke: hmmm... well... I'm not sure I can understand... Aug 18 13:03:50 hrw|work: bitbake should just exclude the pyc files from packaging? Aug 18 13:03:55 obergix[work]: what part? Aug 18 13:04:21 obergix[work]: nk/zaurusd vs nk zaurusd Aug 18 13:04:26 obergix[work]: ' ' vs. '/' Aug 18 13:04:31 zecke: ' ' vs. '/' Aug 18 13:04:42 obergix[work]: while '/' is a path separator Aug 18 13:04:46 ok ... Aug 18 13:04:51 obergix[work]: ' ' is used to separate two commands Aug 18 13:05:00 so there's a problem in bitbake somewhere... Aug 18 13:05:06 RP: maybe - I'm not familiar with that problem Aug 18 13:05:19 zecke: I had not seen the space between the quotes Aug 18 13:05:22 obergix[work]: the 2nd commands says get me misc/trunk (a path) and zaurusd in MY filesystem Aug 18 13:05:38 obergix[work]: and NO I doubt there is anything wrong with bitbake Aug 18 13:06:26 hrw|work: What I mean is that PACKAGE_ARCH='all' is correct but it shouldn't ship pyc files Aug 18 13:06:56 zecke: well... I'm rebuilding drom scratch in .oz354x... and dunno why but it fails... I tried and investigate further before filing a bug... Aug 18 13:07:31 obergix[work]: that is good Aug 18 13:07:46 obergix[work]: did you look at the SRC_URI of the failing file? Aug 18 13:08:01 zecke: probably a problem with latest bitbake and old metadata ? Aug 18 13:08:23 so "SRC_URI = "svn://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk;module=zaurusd;proto=http \" in zaurusd's bb file won't work... Aug 18 13:08:29 zecke: indeed Aug 18 13:08:44 obergix[work]: stop claiming that BitBake is at fault Aug 18 13:08:57 zecke: why not ? ;) Aug 18 13:09:43 zecke: who's parsing SRC_URI, then ? Aug 18 13:09:56 RP: ah Aug 18 13:10:08 obergix[work]: and your mother is responsible for every problem in your life? Aug 18 13:10:29 obergix[work]: http://pastebin.ca/137534 Aug 18 13:10:53 zecke: okay... just trying to figure out why a fresh OE tree wouldn't fetch sources... Aug 18 13:10:54 obergix[work]: okay the SRC_URI is correct, BitBake is correct Aug 18 13:11:04 zecke: but it fails Aug 18 13:11:05 obergix[work]: because you didn't have a network connection? Aug 18 13:11:13 obergix[work]: it just suceeded here, see the log i have pasted Aug 18 13:11:35 zecke: read my msg : the manual svn co works from the same account... Aug 18 13:11:49 obergix[work]: listen boy Aug 18 13:11:53 NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk;module=zaurusd;proto=http Aug 18 13:11:58 Checked out revision 76. Aug 18 13:12:04 NOTE: package zaurusd-0.0+svn20060509-r7: task do_fetch: completed Aug 18 13:12:08 hrw|work: I have version 120 Aug 18 13:12:11 obergix[work]: from scratch fetching Aug 18 13:12:15 zecke: just like you Aug 18 13:12:16 zecke: I have old CVSDATE Aug 18 13:12:43 obergix[work]: problem is on your side. Aug 18 13:12:51 NOTE: Fetch svn://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk;module=zaurusd;proto=http Aug 18 13:12:57 svn: URL 'http://svn.o-hand.com/repos/misc/trunk/zaurusd' doesn't exist Aug 18 13:13:04 obergix[work]: and .oz354x use STAGING_DIR which has zaurusd in proper version Aug 18 13:13:07 obergix[work]: what SRCDATE/CVSDATE have you set? Aug 18 13:13:07 so what ... ;) Aug 18 13:13:17 obergix[work]: svn --version Aug 18 13:13:43 I have 1.2.3 Aug 18 13:14:02 obergix[work]: and yes using svn co -r1 it fails as well Aug 18 13:14:04 I have 1.3.2 Aug 18 13:14:09 zecke: nothing : just basic os354x OE metadata... and a local.conf file with DISTRO = "openzaurus-3.5.4" Aug 18 13:14:27 svn, version 1.1.4 Aug 18 13:14:34 obergix[work]: does openzaurus-3.5.4.conf exist at all? Aug 18 13:14:50 anyway I need to work now Aug 18 13:14:57 zecke: better exist or it would fail earlier I suppose ? Aug 18 13:15:09 obergix[work]: summary: You should understand the difference in your two commands Aug 18 13:15:34 zecke: I do understand... but apparently there's a script wich doesn't ;) Aug 18 13:15:38 obergix[work]: any reason not to use 3.5.4.1? Aug 18 13:15:53 obergix[work]: stop saying that, if you say that you don't understand the issue Aug 18 13:16:11 zecke: ok, let's say that you get back to work... thanks very much ! Aug 18 13:16:21 lol Aug 18 13:16:39 obergix[work]: what is wrong with using openzaurus 3.5.4.1? Aug 18 13:16:45 florian: nils needs to be a bit more careful using his mail client ;) Aug 18 13:17:00 hmm I have to drop 3.5.4 then Aug 18 13:17:20 hrw|work: or add ${@oe.fatal("Ancient error")} Aug 18 13:17:29 good Aug 18 13:17:48 obergix[work]: and the issue is: *drum* your SRCDATE of openzaurus 3.5.4 is just ancient Aug 18 13:17:55 zecke: but 3.5.4 is included by 3.5.4.1/3.5.4.2 Aug 18 13:17:56 obergix[work]: and predates the existance of zaurusd Aug 18 13:18:00 food Aug 18 13:18:01 zecke: all right, maybe Aug 18 13:18:03 mallum: heh, i said something similar... i assume he was quite angry. Aug 18 13:19:29 hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/3541-feed$ bitbake umbaumba Aug 18 13:19:29 ERROR: You are trying to build unsupported OpenZaurus version. Aug 18 13:19:43 good Aug 18 13:20:25 hrw|work: so for building 3.5.4.x for an akita, which DISTRO spec should I use ? Aug 18 13:20:53 obergix[work]: 3.5.4.x where x is 1 or 2 Aug 18 13:20:56 3.5.4.1 or 3.5.4.2 Aug 18 13:21:26 hrw|work: decide yourself ;) Aug 18 13:21:41 obergix[work]: they do not differ for akita at all Aug 18 13:21:44 ok Aug 18 13:22:06 obergix[work]: and as they are your build I will probably do not support it ;d Aug 18 13:22:21 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r860013e0... 10/ (1 packages/gaim/gaim_2.0.0-cvs-mco1.bb): gaim: Add fix from .dev Aug 18 13:22:28 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rec67868e... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.46.bb): gpe-contacts: depend on dbus-glib instead of dbus Aug 18 13:22:33 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * re250046d... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): oz.conf: 3.5.4 is not supported as DISTRO with current metadata. Use OZ 3.5.4.1 or 3.5.4.2 as DISTRO Aug 18 13:23:30 florian: .oz354x was ok Aug 18 13:23:34 florian: .dev is wrong Aug 18 13:23:43 *argh* Aug 18 13:23:51 florian: can you revert it? Aug 18 13:24:02 that's not the first time i do useless thigns toay... Aug 18 13:24:06 hrw|work: yes sure Aug 18 13:24:30 can we fix .dev as well in that case? Aug 18 13:24:43 RP: bug is only in .dev Aug 18 13:25:31 hrw|work: so .dev is ok? Aug 18 13:26:20 RP: no - .oz354x is ok as it use old dbus. .dev use newer dbus and need dbus-glib Aug 18 13:27:54 updated http://www.openembedded.org/gettingstarted-0 for DISTRO in local.conf... Aug 18 13:28:38 after setting DISTRO to 3.5.4.1, it checks out OK Aug 18 13:28:42 thanks guy Aug 18 13:28:44 s Aug 18 13:28:50 hehe Aug 18 13:28:53 you are welcome Aug 18 13:29:23 mallum: any comments from your side apart from that unpleasant discussion? Aug 18 13:35:57 florian: well I moved mb from hh.org a long time ago so cant really comment. But that was when it was really unreliable and it was hurting me productivity wise Aug 18 13:37:04 florian: its pretty sad that everything is going so sour though Aug 18 13:37:04 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rf2e45376... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.46.bb): gpe-contacts: revert change, this branch isn't affected Aug 18 13:37:19 mallum: hmm.. i didn't even try to agrue with that, even if my cvs update took about one hour yesterday Aug 18 13:38:37 mallum: yes that's true... in fact i was surprised that the reaction was that negative from some sides. Aug 18 13:38:47 florian: I dont know where all this bad feeling with france has come from. I dont really understand that. I know he fault pretty hard to keep hh.org going when hp labs closed etc Aug 18 13:40:24 florian: so also apart from that I dont know why GPE is moving Aug 18 13:40:44 mallum: We had some unpleasant discussions before, but i thaought that was history till today. Aug 18 13:40:56 it's pretty opaque from user's point of view, at least Aug 18 13:41:59 mallum: well, linuxtogo is something we had im mind for a long time. now that it is there it would be stupid if we didn't use it for our projects. Aug 18 13:42:22 florian right Aug 18 13:42:33 mallum: and we are much faster and flexible there - projects can add their own users and take care about their own mailinglists. Aug 18 13:43:06 mallum: we can just install software we want to try or use without the need to ask or discuss. Aug 18 13:43:46 mallum: ltg is an experiemnt if a community can take care about the platform for the projects as well. Aug 18 13:44:41 the first reaction on the mailinglist was like if we had moved gpe to kernelconcepts.de :-( Aug 18 13:44:57 florian: but iits all owned by kernel concepts right ? Aug 18 13:45:16 florian: and they've made no statement about its intentions Aug 18 13:45:28 florian: I thought until today for example ltg was done by koen Aug 18 13:46:08 florian: Im not saying its a bad thing to be owned by kc just that by not making that apparent I can see why its causing some confusion like you say Aug 18 13:48:42 mallum: from a legal point of view that might be true, but we didn't know how to do different. i think nils payed the first bills... Aug 18 13:49:59 mallum: there are several people working on it, mickeyl, koen, nils and me are doing the major part of the work so far. Aug 18 13:50:44 hm Aug 18 13:51:00 is bitbake now hosted on berlios and liunxtogo? Aug 18 13:51:06 berlios Aug 18 13:51:15 hm hm Aug 18 13:51:22 mallum: well... if we had know that it would be *that* confusing we migth have done it in a different way :-( Aug 18 13:51:24 it might have been wise to state that the server hosting costs for ltg were expected to be shared by the participants. Aug 18 13:52:00 kernelconcepts is gracefully sponsoring us until now but it wasn't the plan to go on with this forever Aug 18 13:52:13 mickeyl: yeah, we should start a discussion about that on the list... Aug 18 13:59:40 I need to clean DL_DIR.. Aug 18 14:00:48 hrw hehe Aug 18 14:00:52 I know this problem Aug 18 14:04:21 1.8G in DL_DIR (CVS_DIR is in other dir) Aug 18 14:08:23 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3479f276... 10/ (1 packages/portabase/metakit_2.4.9.3.bb): metakit: fix copying of libtool files Aug 18 14:12:16 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf370cb48... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): dejavu: updated to 2.9 (TTF and QPF) Aug 18 14:15:10 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r375f276d... 10/ (13 files in 3 dirs): dejavu: updated to 2.9 (TTF and QPF) Aug 18 14:19:10 mickeyl: ping Aug 18 14:26:09 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rf8625e80... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.46.bb): gpe-contacts: depend on dbus-glib instead of dbus Aug 18 14:29:56 hrw|work: how do i build oz for h3900 now? :-( Aug 18 14:30:37 * florian thinks a warning about building an unofficial version would be good but an error is a bad thing imho. Aug 18 14:31:28 hrw|work: pöng Aug 18 14:31:47 florian: oz 3.5.4.1 use Aug 18 14:32:14 hrw|work: hmm... but that's not what i want Aug 18 14:32:24 florian: set DISTRO_VERSION Aug 18 14:32:52 mickeyl: angstrom-2006.9.conf lack pref_prov for some stuff Aug 18 14:33:18 hrw|work: oh. can you please add what you think is missing? Aug 18 14:33:38 mickeyl: libgpewidget ntpdate libxss hotplug Aug 18 14:33:43 thats atleast Aug 18 14:33:45 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rf37f2457... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): oz.conf: fix to get it working Aug 18 14:33:50 hrw|work: so i use DISTRO="openzaurus" and DISTRO_VERSION="3.5.4.2"? Aug 18 14:34:04 florian: DISTRO='openzaurus-3.5.4.2' Aug 18 14:35:05 hrw|work: well... ok, do i need to understand this? ;) Aug 18 14:35:22 florian: not need - set DISTRO='openzaurus-3.5.4.2' Aug 18 14:35:51 hrw|work: i do, i do :-) Aug 18 14:39:26 ;) Aug 18 14:50:14 NOTE: multiple providers are available (udev, linux-hotplug, hotplug-ng); Aug 18 14:50:14 NOTE: consider defining a PREFERRED_PROVIDER to match runtime hotplug Aug 18 14:50:20 PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hotplug = "udev" Aug 18 14:50:25 is not enough Aug 18 14:51:10 how to fix it? Aug 18 14:53:13 ideas? Aug 18 15:07:18 unslung stuff need COMPATIBLE_MACHINE love Aug 18 15:07:39 "bitbake -kn world" show some interesting things Aug 18 15:08:33 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf9c6177a... 10/ (1 conf/distro/angstrom-2006.9.conf): angstrom: added some PREFERRED_PROVIDERS. PREFERRED_PROVIDER_hotplug need fixing Aug 18 15:09:46 cu Aug 18 15:14:27 bye Aug 18 15:28:08 hotplug needs to die in angstrom... Aug 18 15:28:16 and OZ 2.6 Aug 18 15:34:56 ~slay hotplug Aug 18 15:34:58 * ibot brandishes Excalibur! "With this sword, I vanquish thee, hotplug!" apt lops off hotplug's head. Aug 18 15:48:15 *g* Aug 18 15:48:20 bye xora Aug 18 15:55:03 hi all Aug 18 15:57:00 hi mr_nice Aug 18 15:59:54 woglinde: hi Aug 18 16:34:19 in the staging dir /kernel/include which headers are stored ? those from the libc-headers or from the installed kernel ? Aug 18 16:35:07 Ifaistos: I think koen might know the answer to that Aug 18 16:35:11 but he's not around Aug 18 16:35:51 * Ifaistos is facing header hell for the second day in a row Aug 18 16:37:10 ifaistos hehe Aug 18 16:43:14 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/t/angstrom-world.log.txt if someone interested Aug 18 16:43:23 hi Aug 18 16:43:39 it is log of 'bitbake -kn world' for angstrom/tosa build Aug 18 16:43:57 some PREF_PROV to set, some missing deps Aug 18 16:44:23 probably also some recipes need updating Aug 18 16:51:04 hms some sed guru here? Aug 18 16:51:22 how do I replace all after some pattern Aug 18 16:52:06 g Aug 18 16:52:20 dont laugh Aug 18 16:52:21 sed -i s#a#b#g file Aug 18 16:52:22 s/somepattern(.*)/somepatternUMABUMA Aug 18 16:52:32 I didnt find a example yet Aug 18 16:52:47 woglinde: BTW: Is that GNU sed? Aug 18 16:52:54 yes Aug 18 16:52:59 its for a bbfile Aug 18 16:53:00 'g' Aug 18 16:53:23 woglinde: `g' Aug 18 16:53:23 woglinde: Apply the replacement to _all_ matches to the REGEXP, not just the Aug 18 16:53:23 first. Aug 18 16:53:27 from info sed Aug 18 16:54:13 hrw hm didnt is there something like s/pattern(matchthis)/matchthis=somethingother Aug 18 16:54:25 no I didnt mean 'g' Aug 18 16:54:30 hehe Aug 18 16:54:50 woglinde: kergoth is your king! Aug 18 16:54:54 woglinde: s/pattern(match)/patternOther/g Aug 18 16:54:54 hehe Aug 18 16:55:00 args Aug 18 16:55:02 nono Aug 18 16:55:39 hrw s/pattern(.*) okay and now (.*) should replaced with soemthing Aug 18 16:56:17 s/pattern(.*)/patternsoemthing/g is not? Aug 18 16:56:24 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re37de5f9... 10/ (1 packages/python/python-pymp3_0.3.4.bb): python-pymp3: fix DEPENDS: s/python-ncurses/python-curses Aug 18 16:56:36 yes put looks like poor little man Aug 18 16:56:39 but Aug 18 16:56:42 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rf967aebf... 10/ (1 packages/feh/feh_1.2.6.bb packages/feh/feh_1.2.7.bb): feh: fix DEPENDS: s+imlib2+virtual/imlib2 Aug 18 16:56:49 there must be something better Aug 18 16:56:54 woglinde: no, looks sane to me Aug 18 16:57:01 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r43d68a54... 10/ (1 packages/giblib/giblib.inc): giblib: fix DEPENDS: s+imlib2+virtual/imlib2 Aug 18 16:57:07 woglinde: I can draw the NFA for you if you feel better Aug 18 16:57:07 hms Aug 18 16:57:28 woglinde: we can wait for kergoth though Aug 18 16:57:38 no need to write the first pattern again Aug 18 16:57:38 woglinde: he helped me creating the SED of the Opie upgrade script Aug 18 16:58:49 woglinde: what about s/(pattern).*/\1somethingelse/ Aug 18 17:00:10 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rd4cbbf77... 10/ (1 packages/gsoap/gsoap-native_2.7.7.bb): gsoap-native: unbreak self-dependency Aug 18 17:00:55 hm (.*) didnt work Aug 18 17:01:10 * Aug 18 17:01:16 \(.*\) maybe? Aug 18 17:02:02 ok. fixed some problems, log updated Aug 18 17:02:04 cu Aug 18 17:02:11 hrw|gone: later! Aug 18 17:02:46 hm yes Aug 18 17:02:49 bye hrw Aug 18 17:03:11 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r3c3ef4d5... 10/ (1 packages/angstrom/angstrom-bootmanager.bb): angstrom-bootmanager: if it does not do anything then let it does not add bugs - disabled RDEPENDS Aug 18 17:03:12 woglinde: if you want to replace everything _after_ the pattern, you have the bracketing in the wrong place. Aug 18 17:03:30 pb it was just coolnes Aug 18 17:03:48 hrw's soltuions works and that's I have first in mind Aug 18 17:03:59 but i tought there is a clever way Aug 18 17:04:07 try echo "zecke sucks" | sed 's/\(zecke \).*/\1rules/' Aug 18 17:04:10 or some such Aug 18 17:04:24 oh he Aug 18 17:04:30 pb is sed guru too Aug 18 17:04:36 pb__: damn that even works with BSD sed Aug 18 17:04:52 eek Aug 18 17:05:13 ~hail pb Aug 18 17:05:16 * ibot bows down to pb and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 18 17:05:41 woglinde: but that was in the info file as well Aug 18 17:05:50 okay Aug 18 17:12:11 ~seen Ifaistos Aug 18 17:12:17 ifaistos is currently on #oe (56m 17s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 37m 57s, last said: 'in the staging dir /kernel/include which headers are stored ? those from the libc-headers or from the installed kernel ?'. Aug 18 17:12:37 ifaistos: ping Aug 18 17:24:32 zecke: heh, oh dear Aug 18 17:24:40 hi reennoo Aug 18 17:25:12 hey pb__ Aug 18 17:26:08 hmm *-image, meta-opie and meta-gpe all fail on OSX :( Aug 18 17:29:14 for those that do not read the front page of hh.org bugzilla is down while it is being upgraded and moved to another server. From handhelds.org/~bugzilla to bugzilla.handhelds.org. Turning off bugzilla for the move has dropped the load average on the main server down to 2 from 20. Aug 18 17:30:57 france: already awake again? Aug 18 17:31:30 zecke: once it gets light it is too hard to sleep....and my new 14 cup coffee maker helps. :-D Aug 18 17:31:42 :( Aug 18 17:33:03 pgfeller : Hi ! the build did not finish as the machine had a reset. :( Aug 18 17:33:58 pgfeller : fat fingers situation Aug 18 17:34:10 there are other tidbits on the front page about ftp and rsync for the curious Aug 18 17:35:44 ifaistos: though I try it again myself - this time also clearing the src directory - unfortunately it can't fetch tslib :-/ ... Aug 18 17:37:49 ifaistos: ... in case you figure out something - even if it works you maybe can add a comment in bugtracker? Aug 18 17:38:03 A general question. Is there a maintainer for the /site files ? it seems that a number of errors for non arm build are because the sie files are not there or have a lot of things that are missing Aug 18 17:38:48 pgfeller : I'll let it build overnight from scratch Aug 18 17:39:13 ifaistos: thanks a lot :-) (p.s. do not remove the tslib src files ;) ) Aug 18 17:39:44 mickeyl: adding maintainers for site files would be a good idea Aug 18 17:44:42 pgfeller: use bitbake1.4.4 ;) Aug 18 17:48:32 zecke: ... did just install 1.6.0 ... & 'll give it a try. Aug 18 17:51:56 pgfeller: 1.6.0 is sadly a bit verbose Aug 18 17:53:45 zecke: so 1.4.4 then - no problem ... Aug 18 17:54:12 pgfeller: or svn version of BitBake (1.6.1) Aug 18 17:55:18 zecke : The parts for the cluster have arrived today. Got 10 board/cpus. I have 5 2U boxes and expect the rest next week. Aug 18 17:56:11 later all Aug 18 17:57:18 cu pb__ Aug 18 18:02:00 pb__: nite Aug 18 18:10:19 hm simpad-image build Aug 18 18:22:51 Ifaistos: I will check icecream now Aug 18 18:24:09 argh so many stupid autoconf users Aug 18 18:24:35 | i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.1: unrecognized option '-rdynamic' Aug 18 18:24:35 | /usr/bin/ld: unknown flag: -rpath-link Aug 18 18:31:17 'evening Aug 18 18:39:32 re katossi **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 18 18:42:48 2006 Aug 18 18:44:17 woglinde: hi woglinde Aug 18 18:56:02 hi andersee Aug 18 18:58:49 woglinde: howdy Aug 18 19:11:56 how to build for multible machine targets? splitting it in * directories or is there a possibility like bitbake target bootstrap-image? Aug 18 19:25:45 mr_nice_slacker: you have to alter your local.conf Aug 18 19:26:11 mr_nice_slacker: an easy way is to include some other conf (auto.conf is used for OZ) and have the machine in there Aug 18 19:26:40 mr_nice_slacker: see oz354x/contrib/buildscripts/openzaurus/build-oz-jpatrin.sh for the one I've used Aug 18 19:26:57 mr_nice_slacker: you also need to set a few extra things in your local.conf for arch specific dirs Aug 18 19:28:02 kergoth: could you give me the tailor file you used for tslib? Aug 18 19:28:06 hi justin Aug 18 19:28:57 woglinde: hi Aug 18 19:29:06 JustinP: thx I will read the script Aug 18 19:31:23 mr_nice_slacker: I am pushing instructions in the sh file right now Aug 18 19:31:29 mr_nice_slacker: pushed ;-) Aug 18 19:32:09 mr_nice_slacker: BTW, .dev already has the "multimachine" stuff so you don't need the extra stuff in local.conf. That script is only tested on oz354x as well, not dev Aug 18 19:32:37 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * r14a90733... 10/ (1 contrib/buildscripts/openzaurus/build-oz-jpatrin.sh): contrib/buildscripts/openzaurus/build-oz-jpatrin.sh: add local.conf instructions Aug 18 19:33:38 JustinP: mulitmachine stuff? Aug 18 19:38:31 JustinP: I check out oz354x stuff now :). Aug 18 19:41:55 JustinP:If I get i handled well i will thinik about offering different machine targets Aug 18 19:46:08 can it get a list of possible build targets? or have I just ls the dir for .bb files? Aug 18 19:46:33 mr_nice_slacker: the build script lists the targets you want Aug 18 19:46:42 mr_nice_slacker: it only deals with MACHINE at the moment as well Aug 18 19:47:20 JustinP: ah ok Aug 18 19:49:45 JustinP: I will try the script tommorow - cause the machine is on building stuff atm. Aug 18 19:50:56 hm Aug 18 19:51:03 2.6.18-rc boots on simpad Aug 18 19:51:09 woglinde: sure Aug 18 19:51:14 hehe Aug 18 19:51:21 now usb thingi Aug 18 19:51:40 woglinde: cool Aug 18 19:54:54 hm or ist possible now to run pcmcia stuff without setup with pcmiautils? Aug 18 19:55:06 re tmbinc Aug 18 19:56:09 woglinde: good question, I'm a complete stranger to the new PCMCIA subsystem Aug 18 19:56:17 woglinde: but we could hack kinit tomorrow Aug 18 19:56:31 hm first mq200 Aug 18 19:56:46 woglinde: we can add root on nbd Aug 18 19:57:44 :) Aug 18 19:58:10 if you are need a rabit to test - i will do it ;) Aug 18 19:59:13 woglinde: bring your simpad Aug 18 19:59:23 woglinde: mine is still in the office waiting to get soldered... Aug 18 19:59:26 *busy* Aug 18 20:00:27 you can specify multiple filesystem types in IMAGE_FSTYPES, right? Aug 18 20:17:10 wow Sound Juicer rocks Aug 18 20:52:14 whats command with cvs, to drag a specific date? Aug 18 20:52:46 or to see what a tag represents for date? Aug 18 20:54:05 dunno, it is too late here Aug 18 20:54:12 :D Aug 18 20:55:24 cvs -D doh Aug 18 21:06:58 zecke_: you know who looks after sound juicer? Aug 18 21:09:55 03mreimer 07org.oe.dev * r7f283765... 10/ (1 packages/swig/swig-native_1.3.29.bb): swig-native: add a bb file for 1.3.29. Aug 18 21:11:51 RP: NO, I HAVE NO FREAKING CLUE Aug 18 21:12:10 RP: Ross Burton and by co-incidence he is a o-hand mate? Aug 18 21:12:32 zecke_: No need to shout. He is indeed :) Aug 18 21:12:36 hehe Aug 18 21:12:41 I'm just tired Aug 18 21:12:53 Ubuntu + Sound Juicer really rock Aug 18 21:13:01 My macbook refused to read some CDs Aug 18 21:13:29 I put the CD into the DVD drive and SOund Juicer popped up (the same time I searched for it in the menu) Aug 18 21:13:41 and with two clicks I had FLAC enabled Aug 18 21:13:44 :) Aug 18 21:13:47 really nice working tool Aug 18 21:14:03 Now I have to find the remaining "The Doors" CDs Aug 18 21:14:25 dammit why usb dont show up Aug 18 21:14:29 Its so simple it just confuses me :) Aug 18 21:14:42 RP: If I would know how to create a gst pipeline Aug 18 21:14:52 RP: I would even appreciate the advanced encoding options Aug 18 21:15:14 * RP has no clue... Aug 18 21:18:11 RP: ah the only thing that didn't work. My "Genre" is empty Aug 18 21:23:12 zecke_: I'm sure there is a good explaination :) Aug 18 21:23:40 zecke_: Demand your money back ;-) Aug 18 21:47:48 ~lart ppc kernel headers Aug 18 21:51:02 you build a kernel using ppc as arch BUT if you want to build an external module you have to use powerpc as arch and have those includes 'handy' **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 19 02:59:56 2006