**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 19 02:59:56 2006 Aug 19 06:33:04 morning all Aug 19 06:36:42 cyrilRomain : Hi Aug 19 06:43:51 hey Ifaistos Aug 19 06:44:28 cyrilRomain : early birds get the bugs :) Aug 19 06:45:15 Ifaistos: I got indeed some of them http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showbuilds.pl?tree=Angstrom :) Aug 19 06:47:03 Does anyone know if opie-mediaplayer1 is going to be replaced with opie-mediaplayer2 ? Or it is here for another reason ? Aug 19 06:50:41 cyrilRomain : i am strugling with kernel headers for the ppc. after 2.6.12 they have 'splited' kernel-headers and although you compile the kernel for arch=ppc external modules need to be compiled for arch=powerpc Aug 19 06:51:24 cyrilRomain : the difficult thing is to do it in OE Aug 19 06:53:27 Ifaistos: sorry I don't have any clue for that Aug 19 06:56:11 Ifaistos: Are you sure about that? I thought the "powerpc" was new merged ppc thingy and you could build kernel and modules for all ppc stuff with it? Aug 19 06:56:22 Different arch for kernel and modules doesn't sound right. Aug 19 07:01:54 BTW what it the difference between ppc and powerpc arch ? (even lastest kernel provide the both) Aug 19 07:03:47 and googlefight give similar results for both .. Aug 19 07:07:15 cyrilRomain : basicaly different chips. ppc supports the embedded stuff 4xx, 8xx. powerpc supports the 'big' brothers Aug 19 07:07:25 it seems like migrating out ppc arch into powerpc is under way: http://ozlabs.org/pipermail/linuxppc-dev/2006-July/024189.html Aug 19 07:07:46 Ifaistos: thanks for the details Aug 19 07:08:09 cyrilRomain : yes. that's my problem :( Aug 19 07:09:20 :-/ Aug 19 07:12:10 v8jlene : unfortunately not all... older boards/cpus are still in ppc Aug 19 07:15:17 Ifaistos: Hmm, ok. So you need to switch arch for modules only based on the machine name? Aug 19 07:16:09 v8jlene : and need kernel headers for both arches at the staging dir Aug 19 07:16:59 v8jlene : and this is where the 'fun' begins... Aug 19 07:35:35 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r1d7230d2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Aug 19 07:35:35 usermanual SRC_URI: Add details on SRC_URI and all the different Aug 19 07:35:35 methods and options that effect it to the reference manual. Aug 19 07:41:10 hi zecke Aug 19 07:43:30 hey Aug 19 07:43:32 how are you? Aug 19 07:46:38 fine, thanks Aug 19 07:49:42 zecke: ah, maybe you have the answer: Aug 19 07:49:44 08:02 < cyrilRomain> Does anyone know if opie-mediaplayer1 is going to be replaced with opie-mediaplayer2 ? Aug 19 07:49:47 Or it is here for another reason ? Aug 19 07:57:00 ~seen CoreDump|home Aug 19 07:57:23 coredump|home is currently on #gpe #oe #openzaurus, last said: '~lartv woglinde '. Aug 19 07:57:57 cyrilRomain: hehe, what about mediaplayer3 then? Aug 19 07:58:35 cyrilRomain: The answer is, sadly all three versions are not too maintained Aug 19 07:59:53 zecke: in fact I hae trouble building mediaplayer1 but not mediaplayer2 Aug 19 08:00:24 zecke: so I should track the bug down in mediaplayer1 instead of changing opie-image.bb to build mediaplayer2, right ? Aug 19 08:01:45 s/opie-image/meta-opie/ Aug 19 08:02:51 cyrilRomain: ah that is A BUG in our metadata! Aug 19 08:04:12 need to reboot Aug 19 08:04:15 be back in a minute Aug 19 08:20:51 Morning. Aug 19 08:22:08 I don't know if this is caused by a configuration error on my machine or something, but I had to add a pair of lines to konqueror-embedded_20030705.bb to make it compile for openzaurus-unstable. Aug 19 08:22:28 export QTDIR = "${STAGING_DIR}/${TARGET_SYS}/qt2" Aug 19 08:22:51 and '--enable-threading --enable-mt' to EXTRA_OECONF Aug 19 08:23:14 Perhaps someone is interested. Aug 19 08:23:56 sirfred: I think you should report the bug with the error you got and attach your suggested patch :) Aug 19 08:25:10 cyrilRomain: Yes, that should be fine. But while I'm not sure if it's a problem of mine (because it looks an strange problem) Aug 19 08:25:42 cyrilRomain: And, anyway, where should I report the bug? Aug 19 08:25:53 cyrilRomain: I should read the topic. Aug 19 08:25:57 sirfred: http://bugs.openembedded.org Aug 19 08:26:02 cyrilRomain: :) Aug 19 08:26:44 sirfred: reporting bug and suggeting patch is always welcome :) Aug 19 08:27:06 s/suggeting/suggesting/ even Aug 19 08:27:19 cyrilRomain: OK. I will report it. Aug 19 08:27:30 sirfred: thanks :) Aug 19 08:27:40 no problem Aug 19 08:30:16 zecke: well, meta-opie includes task_opie_multimedia and task-opie.bb:RDEPENDS_task-opie-multimedia = "opie-mediaplayer1" Aug 19 08:30:45 yes opie-mediaplayer1.bb needs fixing Aug 19 08:32:46 ok, let me know if you are going to fix it, otherwise I'll fix it (if I can) Aug 19 08:33:03 cyrilRomain: feel free to fix it (you have push access?) Aug 19 08:33:41 zecke: I had it at for the monotone-0.25 database Aug 19 08:33:53 but I think I don't have it anymore Aug 19 08:34:01 cyrilRomain: hmm, good question Aug 19 08:34:04 anyway, I'll bug the report and submit a patch Aug 19 08:34:11 cyrilRomain: I think you should still have it... Aug 19 08:34:21 cyrilRomain: you get link errors on op1? Aug 19 08:34:45 zecke: ok, anyway I'm not confident enough to commit (at least I prefer to have one of your permission) Aug 19 08:35:07 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=98&logfile=20060819024915.log Aug 19 08:35:08 Has anyone had time to fix/update the matchbox card applet yet? Aug 19 08:35:28 zecke: right Aug 19 08:35:38 I'd presume not as my bug report has had no comments filed against it Aug 19 08:36:23 have you transfered the requested amount of money? Aug 19 08:36:43 cyrilRomain: okay, that is fairly easy then Aug 19 08:37:49 zecke: is it possible that the twice '-lqpe' can be the cause ? Aug 19 08:37:58 cyrilRomain: twice is right Aug 19 08:38:06 cyrilRomain: but rssparser.o twice is the issue ;) Aug 19 08:38:08 I'm also concerned about the lack of a British keyboard map, that was another definite showstopper for me in 3.5.4.1. Has this been dealt with too yet? Aug 19 08:38:47 dan: dunno Aug 19 08:38:49 zecke: well, I'll have a look soon on that (I'm about to report a prboom bug now) Aug 19 08:38:53 zecke: thanks Aug 19 09:07:42 zecke: ok, the opie-mediaplayer1 issue was fairly easy to solve. I'll file the bug and the patch, or maybe can I try my first commit ? Aug 19 09:08:44 cyrilRomain: I will push a fix Aug 19 09:09:15 zecke: ok Aug 19 09:09:38 * cyrilRomain file the bug right now Aug 19 09:13:57 03freyther 07org.oe.dev * r122eeaf1... 10/ (1 packages/opie-mediaplayer1/opie-mediaplayer1_1.2.2.bb): packages/opie-mediaplayer1: Do not link/add rssparser a second time Aug 19 09:15:22 zecke: http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1345 Aug 19 09:15:35 ah, already done ;) Aug 19 09:15:39 zecke: thanks Aug 19 09:22:30 good morning zecke Aug 19 09:22:32 hi ph5 Aug 19 09:23:04 good morning Aug 19 09:28:02 hrw|gone: I have implemented another feature wish for tinderclient Aug 19 09:38:44 SWIG is broken!!! Aug 19 09:54:39 ~seen mickeyl Aug 19 09:54:54 mickeyl is currently on #htc-linux #oe #openezx #opie, last said: 'g'night stefan_schmidt'. Aug 19 09:55:16 mickeyl: ping **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Aug 19 09:57:03 2006 Aug 19 10:02:00 Probably a typo in task-e-x11.bb:PREFERRED_PROVIDER_virtual/imlib2 = "imlib-x11" Aug 19 10:02:17 this should be "imlib2-x11" instead, isn't it ? Aug 19 11:10:32 morning Aug 19 11:10:48 cleaning .dev errors in progress Aug 19 11:12:50 mickeyl: ping Aug 19 11:13:17 hrw: :) Aug 19 11:19:32 hrw: morning ... do you have a minute for me? Aug 19 11:19:49 pgfeller_: with libvncserver bug? Aug 19 11:20:02 hrw: yep :-) Aug 19 11:20:13 go ahead Aug 19 11:20:47 hrw: I tried the dependencies you proposed: libxtst6 (>= X11R7.0-1.0.1), libxext6 (>= X11R7.1-1.0.1), libxinerama1 (>= X11R7.0-1.0.1), libxrandr2 (>= X11R7.1-1.1.1), libxfixes3 (>= X11R7.1-4.0.1), libxdamage1 (>= X11R7.1-1.0.3), libc6 (>= 2.4), libssl0.9.7 (>= 0.9.7g), libcrypto0.9.7 (>= 0.9.7g), libx11-6 (>= X11R7.1-1.0.1), libz1 (>= 1.2.3), jpeg (>= 6b) Aug 19 11:21:09 hrw: but libxtst6 was not found Aug 19 11:21:13 pgfeller_: I not proposed them - I got them from build Aug 19 11:21:20 pgfeller_: xtst provide it Aug 19 11:22:03 hrw: how can you deduce dependencies from build? Is that difficult? Aug 19 11:22:26 be back in 10 minutes Aug 19 11:26:04 pgfeller_: you can use special compilation with EXTRA_OECONF, e.g. EXTRA_OECONF = "--disable-alsa" to remove also dependency Aug 19 11:26:34 cyrilRomain: yes, that needs to be imlib2-x11. can you change it? Aug 19 11:26:59 yes, but I'm not sure to have push rights Aug 19 11:27:06 i thought you had once Aug 19 11:27:10 hi mickeyl btw :) Aug 19 11:27:27 on the monotone 0.25 database yes Aug 19 11:27:34 anyone know how to change from dropbear to ssh? ipkg remove dropbear kills my ssh session hence postrm fails and the operation doesn't suceed. Aug 19 11:27:36 dunno with the new one Aug 19 11:28:06 cyrilRomain: go ahead and try :) if it doesn't work, then send me your key again please Aug 19 11:28:07 * cyrilRomain give it a try Aug 19 11:28:08 cyrilRomain: thanks ... I could reduce the package to libvncserver.a (excluding the other parts completely) - but I do not know if this is good practice? Advice welcome ... Aug 19 11:28:52 pgfeller_: no, some dependency are really required Aug 19 11:29:19 pgfeller_: xinerama should be faluctative though Aug 19 11:30:07 pgfeller_: on way to know what you can remove is to have a look to gentoo ebuilds. Aug 19 11:31:47 s/on/one/ Aug 19 11:32:24 cyrilRomain: as I only intent to use fb mode I could do do EXTRA_OECONF = "-without-x" ... Aug 19 11:32:27 pgfeller_: for example looking at http://www.gentoo-portage.com if you don't have Gentoo Aug 19 11:33:08 pgfeller_: give it a try :) Aug 19 11:33:27 I mean, with EXTRA_OECONF = "-without-x" Aug 19 11:33:33 cyrilRomain: have SuSE 10.1 => I'll have a look @ it. I just do not know what is policy for receipts: provide the max. function supported by the lib, or reduce it to what I need ... Aug 19 11:34:21 mickeyl: xqt need fixing for qte-mt Aug 19 11:34:46 pgfeller_: ok. For the policy sorry i'm not the one to ask. Aug 19 11:36:20 pgfeller_: disable xinerama, check does it can be built with gnutls instead of openssl Aug 19 11:36:41 cyrilRomain: a first .bb for libvnc was reduced to the min. I needed; mickeyl then added x11vnc and the other parts - therefore I imagine that's what is expected, but I'll ask him directly. Aug 19 11:37:53 hrw: as xtst provides libxtst6, should it be added to the provide section of xtst's .bb? Aug 19 11:38:26 hrw: ok, i'll handle that Aug 19 11:40:55 pgfeller_: no Aug 19 11:46:10 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9f43adae... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): kaffeh-native: clean RDEPENDS to get it build Aug 19 11:46:15 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9cb5b087... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-mythfront.bb): task-mythfront: set COMPATIBLE_HOST to same as mythtv Aug 19 11:46:20 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rb40cd07f... 10/ (1 packages/xqt/xqt_0.0.9.bb): xqt: fix DEPEND on flex-native Aug 19 11:49:37 pgfeller: anything which need libxtst6 need to depend on xtst (or libxtst - i do not remember how it was called) Aug 19 11:50:18 hrw: how did you figure out the exact dependency list? Aug 19 11:51:35 pgfeller: build it from scratch - if it build and work then fix its deps to that set. if needed then also fix configure part to NOT use extra stuff Aug 19 11:53:16 any idea why openssh's ssh-add would only accept DSA keys? did we disable rsa? Aug 19 11:53:29 dont remember Aug 19 11:54:34 ah! Aug 19 11:54:38 funny Aug 19 11:54:43 ssh-agent needs to run Aug 19 11:54:53 otherwise ssh-add only adds the DSA key Aug 19 11:55:17 * mickeyl working on automated backup solution w/ his nslu2 Aug 19 11:55:28 finally i found something serious to use it for :) Aug 19 11:57:24 ;) Aug 19 11:57:36 13:27 hrw@work:dev$ time nice bitbake -nk world|egrep -v 'started|completed'|tee world.log Aug 19 11:58:02 simpl way to find errors Aug 19 11:58:09 handy Aug 19 11:58:26 cyrilRomain: just have the gentoo libvncserver receipt in front of me; does gentoo use bitbake - ot do they just look similar? Aug 19 11:58:31 mickeyl: most of my recent .dev fixes was for it Aug 19 11:58:40 pgfeller: they just look similar Aug 19 11:58:42 pgfeller: bitbake took some ideas from portage Aug 19 12:02:03 function SSHStartAgent Aug 19 12:02:04 { Aug 19 12:02:09 "function" now known Aug 19 12:02:11 is this a bashism? Aug 19 12:02:17 s/now/not/ Aug 19 12:02:47 mickeyl: try with "function SSHStartAgent()", (?) Aug 19 12:02:57 * mickeyl tries Aug 19 12:03:15 -sh: Syntax error: "(" unexpected Aug 19 12:03:16 hmm Aug 19 12:03:19 ~lart ash Aug 19 12:03:19 * ibot blames ash for all the evil in the world Aug 19 12:04:05 ah right Aug 19 12:04:07 - function Aug 19 12:04:08 + () Aug 19 12:04:15 then it works. looks like a bashism indeed Aug 19 12:04:24 * mickeyl removes function keyword and adds brackets all over Aug 19 12:04:49 jez.... Aug 19 12:05:01 why linux 2.6 on desktop is not usable without swap? Aug 19 12:05:05 function is facultativ in bash iirc Aug 19 12:05:11 total used free shared buffers cached Aug 19 12:05:11 Mem: 906416 847732 58684 0 19460 363376 Aug 19 12:05:48 eeeks Aug 19 12:05:50 gawk: file not found Aug 19 12:05:54 who on earth is using gawk??? Aug 19 12:05:55 * hrw want a tool which will show exact memory usage of apps Aug 19 12:07:00 hrw: ya, that'd be nice. perhaps now that we have more profiling support in the kernel this may happen soon Aug 19 12:07:07 hrw: that is a hard one because of shared libraries... when should you count them? Aug 19 12:07:30 Philippe: split it to MemApp MemShared Aug 19 12:07:39 ~hug nslu2 Aug 19 12:07:41 * ibot hugs nslu2 Aug 19 12:07:42 MemApp MemLibs MemShared even Aug 19 12:07:51 Mem: 906416k total, 866020k used, 40396k free, 19460k buffers Aug 19 12:07:51 Swap: 0k total, 0k used, 0k free, 459752k cached Aug 19 12:07:58 this situation suxx Aug 19 12:08:26 hrw: btw there is something like smaps in the 2.6 kernels that should give you some kind of correct memory figures. Aug 19 12:09:03 http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/vm/smaps/v2.6/smaps-rml-2.6.13-1.patch Aug 19 12:09:07 XFS just decided to shutdown my rootfs partition Aug 19 12:09:09 FSCK! Aug 19 12:09:10 FSCK! Aug 19 12:09:39 why the hell I have to waste time for fighting with system instead of just USING it? Aug 19 12:09:47 hrw@home:~$ dmesg Aug 19 12:09:47 bash: dmesg: command not found Aug 19 12:09:49 hrw@home:~$ df Aug 19 12:09:50 bash: /bin/df: Input/output error Aug 19 12:09:51 etc Aug 19 12:10:49 ugly Aug 19 12:10:57 hrw: yay! sounds bad. Even worse than the time I managed to overwrite all my system utilities with ARM busybox stuff... Aug 19 12:10:58 did you crash your home system? Aug 19 12:11:00 ext2 suxx, reiserfs3 has some nasty things, jfs was named 'better skip it', now xfs fails... Aug 19 12:11:12 mickeyl: yes - the one which I use now Aug 19 12:11:17 bummer :/ Aug 19 12:11:24 hrw: about memory, also see http://bmaurer.blogspot.com/2006/03/memory-usage-with-smaps.html Aug 19 12:11:27 now have to sysrq boot Aug 19 12:11:48 Philippe: that's an interesting read Aug 19 12:12:00 * hrw want reliable x86 machine which can be used as normal box Aug 19 12:12:06 *reliable* even Aug 19 12:12:14 * mickeyl points hrw to a Mac and smiles innocently Aug 19 12:12:29 mickeyl: macpro with 2 xeons? Aug 19 12:12:33 yeah Aug 19 12:12:36 that thing must rock Aug 19 12:12:42 i'm tempted between that and the MBP Aug 19 12:12:49 price-wise they're the same Aug 19 12:12:57 mickeyl: I do not have even 5% cash for it Aug 19 12:12:59 question is... do i really need a laptop or not Aug 19 12:13:02 heh Aug 19 12:13:10 we need to get you up to speed as OE-consultant Aug 19 12:13:14 brb Aug 19 12:13:17 mickeyl: macpro is probabely a lot faster... Aug 19 12:13:39 Philippe: definitly. i really don't know whether i need a laptop or not in the future Aug 19 12:14:01 * Philippe has a Poweredge 1800. Was relatively cheap as I got the second CPU for free and cost me about half of the MBP. Aug 19 12:14:32 hi mickeyl Aug 19 12:14:35 hail pb__ Aug 19 12:14:40 Philippe: wow, that's a beast! Aug 19 12:14:41 hi pb__ Aug 19 12:14:51 hi philippe Aug 19 12:15:38 mickeyl: I have a few nslu2's running backup duty, using rdiff-backup over ssh. It's been working very well ;) Aug 19 12:16:03 re Aug 19 12:16:16 booted into rescue rootfs and started xfs_repair Aug 19 12:16:29 ~curse xfs for lack of normal fsck Aug 19 12:16:38 ln -s /bin/true fsck.xfs Aug 19 12:16:45 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, xfs for lack of normal fsck ! Aug 19 12:17:34 looks like sooner or later I will switch to umsdos (if it is still available in 2.6) Aug 19 12:18:04 is there ZFS support already in the linux kernel? Aug 19 12:18:34 fatal error -- can't read block 16777216 for directory inode 15988676 Aug 19 12:18:41 thats all from xfs_repair ;( Aug 19 12:18:52 Philippe: not in mainline iirc Aug 19 12:19:16 v8jlene: yeah, cool. I need something I can forget about that backsup my local stuff from the always-running windows machine and the remote stuff from my 24/7 server. the slug is _perfect_ for that Aug 19 12:20:26 it probably can drive usb dvd burners as well Aug 19 12:20:27 Philippe: zfs is that one which do checksums for anything what has to be written? Aug 19 12:21:15 NOTE: package libvncserver-0.8.2-r2: task do_compile: completed :-D Aug 19 12:22:19 ... now I'll try a clean re-build: => rm -rf ./tmp && rm -rf ./sources && bitbake libvncserver Aug 19 12:22:46 I would not erase sources without 10Mbps connection to net Aug 19 12:23:00 hrw: Not running one of those 2.6.17 with the xfs corruption bugs are you? Aug 19 12:23:51 hrw, mickeyl : should I remove the pcmcia-driver.patch from wlan-ng ? (iirc, you said it is already applied upstream) Aug 19 12:23:55 v8jlene: recently switched to 2.6.17.8 Aug 19 12:23:58 cyrilRomain: yes Aug 19 12:24:10 hrw: ok, thx. Aug 19 12:24:21 cyrilRomain: we have to do fixeddate 0.2.3/0.2.4 release Aug 19 12:24:37 v8jlene: but thats it probably Aug 19 12:25:34 hrw: ok. I'll first submit the patch to make wlan-ng build from svn Aug 19 12:25:51 hrw: It was fixed in 2.6.17.7 I think and they made a new xfs_repair to fix the damage. Might be worth trying if you don't already have it. Aug 19 12:26:15 what would prevent an added "EXTRA_CFLAGS += ..." line in the .bb from passing that addition to the CFLAG defs in the run.do files? Aug 19 12:26:22 v8jlene: just trying Aug 19 12:26:32 v8jlene: and got it fixed Aug 19 12:27:12 hrw: that's I#ll be away now for a while ;-) Aug 19 12:28:58 hrw: should I also remove pcmciasrc.patch in addition to the pcmcia-driver.patch ? Aug 19 12:29:21 cyrilRomain: I'm not familiar with wlan-ng Aug 19 12:29:41 hrw: ok, I'll not remove it then. Aug 19 12:30:23 that looks like a patch to make it build at all, i'd live it in Aug 19 12:30:25 s/live/leave/ Aug 19 12:30:45 bbl Aug 19 12:30:48 mickeyl: [ patch in progress ... ] Aug 19 12:31:59 hrw: not that I remember. It's SUN's latest filesystem. I suppose it should be kind of reliable. Aug 19 12:32:22 hi all Aug 19 12:32:39 x29a: ping Aug 19 12:32:42 brb - reboot to xfs Aug 19 12:36:39 mr_nice_slacker: just going outside Aug 19 12:37:24 x29a: hehe , good idea Aug 19 12:38:36 x29a: i have the edge connector Aug 19 12:41:29 re Aug 19 12:44:40 hrw, mickey|sun : wlan-ng-svn patch http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1260 Aug 19 12:55:06 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rc9627a53... 10/ (1 packages/tasks/task-dvb.bb): task-dvb: set COMPATIBLE_HOST to same as mythtv Aug 19 13:03:49 * hrw want Java Virtual Machine which will not eat 400M each time.. Aug 19 13:06:02 hrw: don't use java, and use lua or neko for very little VM :) Aug 19 13:09:26 cyrilRomain: show me bittorrent client for linux which will beat azureus Aug 19 13:09:51 hrw: that's the point :-/ Aug 19 13:15:40 zecke i saw you had some problem with oe on mac yesterday - sis you figure out why? Aug 19 13:19:14 9665 hrw 15 0 526m 94m 22m S 87.9 10.7 0:25.22 java Aug 19 13:19:16 argh Aug 19 13:24:47 hrw, id like to get your opinion about the feasibility (and your willingness) to make local.conf settings override the distro conf files - for example the ENABLE_BINARY_LOCALE switch in distro conf cannot be overridden by local.conf - this seems like a mistake to me - is it something you would consider changing? Aug 19 13:25:53 poushag: oz 3.5.4.1+ has binary locales enabled. eot Aug 19 13:26:33 poushag: if you want to disable them then create 3.5.4.1-poushag Aug 19 13:28:44 hrw - i dont think im the only one that thinks local.conf should override distro conf - the default to build locale is fine - but not letting the user override it in local.conf seems to be an error Aug 19 13:29:12 it sounds like you mean to say that you wont consider changing it - ok then i will deal with it Aug 19 13:30:10 besides which im using .dev branch Aug 19 13:30:26 poushag: exactly - I will not allow to change oz configs by local.conf settings. if someone want to create different oz-related distro then feel free to create own config Aug 19 13:31:31 ok i follow your logic there for oz - what about .dev then? is it the same as oz? Aug 19 13:32:23 I do not maintain distros in .dev Aug 19 13:43:34 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r71b8cdbf... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): irk: point SRC_URI to OpenZaurus source archive - close #1348 Aug 19 13:43:40 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r6f7030a7... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): irk: point SRC_URI to OpenZaurus source archive - close #1348 Aug 19 13:45:37 hrw, so can openzaurus-unstable conf be overridden by local.conf? Aug 19 13:46:08 poushag: I do not remember what is inside of it and do not plan to work on that Aug 19 13:47:15 ok fair enough - i will handle some other way then Aug 19 13:54:22 2/cr Aug 19 14:12:01 x29a: it is soldered now - i will setup 2.4 and update it now Aug 19 14:35:52 x29a: ok i will save the first 5 blocks and upload it - than i will grep the hole 16 MB - but this time the first 5 blocks should do it Aug 19 14:39:00 should I do bugreports for simpad with openzaurus-unstable as disrtibution - or is that without sense? Aug 19 14:39:39 it has sense Aug 19 14:41:09 hrw: re-build of libvncserver worked :-D ... I changed the DEPENDS from virtual/libsdl to libsdl-x11 ... Aug 19 14:42:21 hrw: so the sdl-qt version is the cause of the problem (as Marcin said in Bugtracker) Aug 19 14:42:36 pgfeller: I'm Marcin Juszkiewicz Aug 19 14:42:59 pgfeller: :-D Aug 19 14:43:32 pgfeller: was not aware of that ;) Aug 19 14:43:38 hrw: Aug 19 14:43:43 pgfeller: /whois hrw Aug 19 14:43:52 19 16:57 [FreeNode] -!- hrw [n=hrw@ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl] Aug 19 14:43:52 19 16:57 [FreeNode] -!- ircname : Marcin Juszkiewicz Aug 19 14:44:28 hrw: thanks ... so is sdl-qt bugy? Aug 19 14:45:15 I would not say buggy but rather overhacked Aug 19 14:46:05 hrw: but do I understand this right: sdl-qt for OPIE & the x11 for GPE? Aug 19 14:46:28 yes Aug 19 14:46:37 in short Aug 19 14:47:29 hrw: mhh ... as I'm using OPIE (and I'm very happy with it) I'll try to make it work with sdl-qt ... Aug 19 14:56:01 http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=21120 Aug 19 15:10:24 ~botmail for x29a: here is the link http://opensimpad.org/images/8/8c/Test2_loader_2.5.3.img (first 5 blocks) - the hole image is in progress now Aug 19 15:17:29 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3504addc... 10/ (7 files in 7 dirs): rt2570: added driver for Ralink USB 802.11g WiFi stick Aug 19 15:18:45 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r3504addc... 10/ (7 files in 7 dirs): rt2570: added driver for Ralink USB 802.11g WiFi stick Aug 19 15:19:05 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r5ea9eb6f... 10/ (8 files in 6 dirs): rt2570: added driver for Ralink USB 802.11g WiFi stick Aug 19 15:27:47 can someone do bad things by sending bitbake arguments? I need to know how much I have to check that bitbake only get the right arguments. Aug 19 15:28:03 define bad Aug 19 15:28:49 hrw: executing shell commands ore something similiar Aug 19 15:29:38 if you will feed bitbake with nasty recipes then it can do bad things Aug 19 15:29:56 hrw: i want to grep a email and pass the subject to bitbake - someone could fake the mail and give bitbake a argument which i don't want Aug 19 15:30:20 hrw: can I give bitbake a recipie with an argument? Aug 19 15:30:43 iirc no Aug 19 15:31:23 hrw: so it should be save as long there is no nasty .bb file Aug 19 15:31:46 yes Aug 19 15:32:34 hrw: ok - that makes things much easier Aug 19 15:32:40 hrw: thx Aug 19 15:32:45 np Aug 19 15:51:08 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r4f5a4340... 10/ (1 packages/sudo/sudo.inc): sudo: remove bogus double SECTION Aug 19 15:51:14 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r45e1a8de... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): libesmtp: add 1.0.4, remove older ones Aug 19 15:51:19 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * rd62bfa48... 10/ (1 packages/libesmtp/libesmtp_1.0.4.bb): libesmtp: inherit binconfig Aug 19 15:51:24 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r67adbb4e... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): esmtp: update to 0.5.1 Aug 19 16:32:27 hi Cliff Aug 19 16:58:51 hello; does the processing of FILES_packagename work recursively? I mean, if I put there /usr, will it include for example /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/ ? Aug 19 17:06:19 I don't want to put unneccessary things in bbfile, but I would like to be sure... Aug 19 17:06:53 yes Aug 19 17:07:30 Hmm, so I'm definitely doing something wrong:) (my files don't get included) Aug 19 17:07:32 use ${datadir}/icons/ Aug 19 17:08:37 aha, that coulf do the trick:-) Aug 19 17:08:48 I thought that one has to put there absolute paths, as in installed filesystem Aug 19 18:02:00 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rcc7e7fd4... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-native.bb): slugos-native: moved libc6-dev to the linux section as it is not for uclibc Aug 19 18:02:09 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * rf9b2fe26... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): Aug 19 18:02:09 slugos-packages.bb: demoted apr, boost, linphone, sudo for ucslugc Aug 19 18:02:09 promoted asterisk, asterisk-sounds, alsa-utils, ircp to common section Aug 19 18:02:09 as they also work for ucslugc. Aug 19 18:02:22 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * r0d0869be... 10/ (1 packages/ushare packages/ushare/ushare_0.9.7.bb): ushare: created; ushare is a UPnP media server Aug 19 18:02:32 03eFfeM 07org.oe.dev * ra0f14f1e... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-packages.bb): slugos-packages: added libupnp and ushare Aug 19 18:03:16 eFfeM: can you add COMPATIBLE_MACHINE to slug recipes? Aug 19 18:54:07 hrw: Hi Marcin Aug 19 19:45:13 cu Aug 19 20:05:20 ... well - I'still playing with libvncserver :-): inside the Makefile.am of the module which failed I see that $(SDL_LIBS) are added to LDADD Aug 19 20:05:33 does anybody know where this $(SDL_LIBS) is defined Aug 19 20:05:51 as it seems to work for libsdl-x11, but doesn't for libsdl-qpe Aug 19 20:06:34 makefile i'd suspect Aug 19 20:07:17 emte: isnĀ“t the Makefile generated out of Makefile.am? Aug 19 20:08:10 partially Aug 19 20:08:56 emte: I checked the Makefile & indeed there it is defined - but I assume it is not a very clever idea of mine to change it .... Aug 19 20:09:26 emte: any advice what I#ve to do to add a "-lstdc++" to $(SDL_LIBS) Aug 19 20:09:29 look at the patch differences for both projects Aug 19 20:10:57 emte: the difference is if I use dependes on libsdl-x11, or libsdl-qpe in the .bb; or to what do you refere by projects? Aug 19 20:12:04 well one is obviously not passing the parameter you want Aug 19 20:12:12 i am guessing the other one is Aug 19 20:12:32 so if you look at the one that works, you should find the difference Aug 19 20:12:56 emte: so I should look @ the libsdl receipts? Aug 19 20:13:14 probably Aug 19 20:13:40 emte: thanks ... will try it. Aug 19 20:24:50 hrw|gone: missed your msg as I was away (but forgot to change nick, sorry) Aug 19 20:25:24 hrw|gone: what exactly do you want me to add and where? I don't know COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and I am not sure which recipe you are referring to Aug 19 20:32:27 hi Aug 19 20:33:01 hrw: hi Aug 19 20:33:27 hrw: ... need some more advice - do you have a minute or two? Aug 19 20:33:43 go Aug 19 20:34:21 hrw: it seems that the problem with libsdl-qpe is, that a "-lstdc++" is missed for the linker for the SDL VNC viewer ... Aug 19 20:34:54 libsdl-qpe need to be build with g++ Aug 19 20:34:55 hrw: I found that there is a var $(SDL_LIBS) in the Makefile.am which is used to inform the linker via LDADD Aug 19 20:35:11 and everything which isss linked with this Aug 19 20:35:45 hrw: is that a problem with my OE configuration? Aug 19 20:36:10 its a problem with libsdl-qpe Aug 19 20:36:56 hrw: missed your msg as I was away (but forgot to change nick, sorry) Aug 19 20:37:02 this crap is so hacked by many people... and noone work on getting it upstream so it is dead now Aug 19 20:37:06 hrw: what exactly do you want me to add and where? I don't know COMPATIBLE_MACHINE and I am not sure which recipe you are referring to Aug 19 20:37:33 hrw: how difficult would it be to take care about libsdl-qpe? Aug 19 20:38:08 hrw: as I think this lib is quite important for OPIE - or do I missunderstand? Aug 19 20:38:09 effem: i did a world simulated build and all *slug* metas/images depend on stuff defined only in slug configs Aug 19 20:38:52 effem: COMP_MACH tell bitbake to skip it - look at zaurus kernels as example Aug 19 20:39:34 pgfeller: this lib is needed to run sdl apps under opie Aug 19 20:39:56 and i do not know how to fix problems with it Aug 19 20:40:03 hrw, will do, actually the slug meta's were not made by me, but I'll happily give it a go Aug 19 20:40:34 can take a while though, i'm not doing this today any more, tomorrow is fully booked and tue I have to leave on a business trip for the rest of the week Aug 19 20:40:42 so that means it is monday or next weekend Aug 19 20:40:44 effem: you are one of slug devs which maintain them and was last who touched them Aug 19 20:41:01 effem: no problem - wanted to point it Aug 19 20:41:03 yeah, I know, I add packages in meta/slugos-packages.bb Aug 19 20:41:07 hrw: so it is the door to a whole "familiy" of apps ... well - I fear my knowledge is on the lower end of such a task, but I'll try to understand libsdl-qt build process & to find the problem Aug 19 20:41:08 cu Aug 19 20:41:13 l8r Aug 19 20:41:14 cu Aug 19 21:41:41 hello Aug 19 21:46:53 evening all Aug 19 22:01:27 hi RP Aug 19 22:44:40 hey RP Aug 19 22:52:12 'night all :) Aug 20 02:18:45 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * rf79e4803... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): php: upgrade PHP5 to 5.1.4, thanks to Shane Volpe , bug #1338 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Aug 20 02:59:56 2006