**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Aug 24 02:59:57 2006 Aug 24 06:47:17 good morning all Aug 24 06:48:27 salut Aug 24 07:22:03 morning Aug 24 07:25:20 epia/generic bootstrap-image built with glibc-2.4 Aug 24 07:32:40 hey hrw|work Aug 24 07:36:21 morning Aug 24 07:36:24 hrw|work: http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/OZ/oz-feeds.db.bz2 (800kB) Aug 24 07:36:28 hey XorA Aug 24 07:40:32 morning all Aug 24 07:40:39 hey RP Aug 24 07:41:26 kergoth: did you get glibc 2.4 working for arm OABI? Aug 24 07:42:32 koen: tried to run firefox yet? Aug 24 07:44:35 XorA: good point, will try it now Aug 24 07:58:48 koen: I cannot debug firefox as I cant even build it Aug 24 07:58:52 hey Aug 24 07:59:11 XorA: it's in the angstrom feed Aug 24 07:59:13 hey zecke Aug 24 08:00:21 koen: cool, I might try and install it later then Aug 24 08:00:44 once I finish reflashing my hx, I'll try it on the device Aug 24 08:00:47 * XorA needs a build machine with decent disk size Aug 24 08:00:50 /cr Aug 24 08:10:11 koen: can you also provide current version of script? Aug 24 08:12:22 hrw|work: scripts.tar.bz2 in the same dir Aug 24 08:12:48 http://linuxtogo.org/~koen/index.php?path=OZ/ Aug 24 08:12:56 ok Aug 24 08:15:03 hrw|work: and could you think about a license for that stuff? Aug 24 08:16:01 personally prefer GPL, can accept BSD/MIT Aug 24 08:16:35 gplv2? Aug 24 08:16:41 yes Aug 24 08:16:45 ok Aug 24 08:19:58 koen: org.openembedded.dev/contrib/feed-browser/? Aug 24 08:20:26 hrw|work: that's OK by me Aug 24 08:26:02 morning all Aug 24 08:26:18 koen: what was the name (PN) of the script that sources me an environment and setup PATH, CFLAGS, QMAKESPEC etc? Aug 24 08:26:52 devshell Aug 24 08:28:16 hi dirk Aug 24 08:28:24 hey dirk Aug 24 08:30:01 hey Koen, Marcin Aug 24 08:39:01 hello again Aug 24 08:40:31 i've run into another issue with my linux-omap1 build and was wondering if someone was available to help Aug 24 08:40:40 the errors from the console are available here: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tEh8Ff47.html Aug 24 08:40:51 thanks, in advance Aug 24 08:41:28 bigd0g: ;) I have seen that before, but I sadly do not own a omap Aug 24 08:41:58 hi zecke :) thanks for looking. do you know who i might talk to who does? Aug 24 08:42:12 (i really appreciate all the help you've given me thus far, if i haven't made that abundantly clear) Aug 24 08:47:18 bigd0g: open up the BB file Aug 24 08:47:41 bigd0g: currently it only has do_deploy_omap5912osk {} Aug 24 08:49:14 zecke: yep, i see that. i do have that board, though. Aug 24 08:49:50 bigd0g: I have close to zero clue about this omap stuff Aug 24 08:49:59 bigd0g: is your bootloader uboot as well? Aug 24 08:50:06 zecke: indeed Aug 24 08:50:24 bigd0g: then you might want to reconsider your MACHINE (which you set in local.conf) Aug 24 08:50:39 bigd0g: or you can edit this bb file and remove the '_omap5912osk' Aug 24 08:50:50 zecke: ok. let me see what i set machine to in my 'local.conf' file Aug 24 08:51:37 zecke: i currently the machine set, as follows... Aug 24 08:51:54 zecke: MACHINE = "omap5912osk" Aug 24 08:52:41 hmm Aug 24 08:52:56 remove the _omap5912osk from the linux bbfile Aug 24 08:52:59 is i remove the "_omap5912osk", you think that would forace the compile? Aug 24 08:53:07 hrm. ok. i'll give that a go. Aug 24 08:53:44 bigd0g: Do you know what this _omap5912osk should do? Aug 24 08:54:06 bigd0g: it will not force a recompile, it will try to call do_deploy again and hopefully succeed (if you have a mkimage somehwere) Aug 24 08:54:47 i'm not sure why the _omap5912osk is specified. i mean, that is the board, but it appears to be the only do_deploy loop in that .bb Aug 24 08:55:15 omap5912osk is actual chip itself, if that was more of the question you were asking. Aug 24 08:55:16 zecke: the nokia770 doesn't need that do_deploy, that's why its omap5912 only Aug 24 08:55:41 koen: I wonder why the OVERRIDE is not working Aug 24 08:56:15 if i remove the _omap5912osk ... will that compile a valid image for the omap5912osk ? Aug 24 08:56:31 i don't have the nokia version of the omap5912. i literally have the osk dev board. Aug 24 08:56:33 bigd0g: you already have a compiled image Aug 24 08:57:00 koen: feed browser looks like being written by someone who use C and just started using php ;) Aug 24 08:57:01 oh. what exactly does the do_deploy loop do ? Aug 24 08:57:06 bigd0g: it just failed copying the image somewhere Aug 24 08:57:25 it shouldn't be trying to copy it to the device, should it? Aug 24 08:57:25 bigd0g: copy the image somewhere, where it can be used e.g. copying it to tmp/deploy/images Aug 24 08:57:31 oh, ok Aug 24 08:57:41 just making sure i understand what's going on Aug 24 08:58:53 ok... tried it with the _omap5912osk not specified Aug 24 08:59:04 it can't find "mkimage" command Aug 24 08:59:12 posting the full console error text... 1 moment Aug 24 09:00:03 good monring Aug 24 09:00:15 new error @ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/uapmq545.html Aug 24 09:00:24 morning, florian_kc Aug 24 09:01:52 the "mkimage: command not found" line concerns me Aug 24 09:01:59 bigd0g: tell me more Aug 24 09:02:09 bigd0g: wtf should mkimage be? is it a uboot tool? Aug 24 09:02:27 yep mkimage is a uboot tool Aug 24 09:02:40 thanks Aug 24 09:02:54 "I suspect it's some german pun" Aug 24 09:03:01 rofl, koen Aug 24 09:03:17 that's what craig duffy said at fosdem Aug 24 09:03:25 koen: you boot? Aug 24 09:03:45 and the submarine thing Aug 24 09:04:22 zecke: just did some research -- mkimage builds the uboot image for the device Aug 24 09:04:35 zecke: at least as far as the omap goes Aug 24 09:04:48 bigd0g: you need that in your path or check if OpenEmbedded has a uboot-native package Aug 24 09:05:25 zecke: ok, will do. Aug 24 09:05:40 zecke: thanks. Aug 24 09:06:52 bigd0g: u-boot_1.1.4.bb also builds mkimage Aug 24 09:07:29 bigd0g: so you could uncomment the DEPENDS line in linux-omap1*.bb Aug 24 09:07:50 checking... Aug 24 09:09:55 zecke: if i compile with the 'depends' line uncommented, what will happen next? Aug 24 09:10:36 it will buld uboot first Aug 24 09:10:46 and then continue with 'do_deploy' of linux-omap1 Aug 24 09:11:45 that's what i would have thought, but i'm not seeing how it does that in the .bb file Aug 24 09:11:50 just trying to understand it better Aug 24 09:11:57 i'll try running it now with the line uncommented Aug 24 09:12:14 bigd0g: check the BitBake manual for DEPENDS Aug 24 09:12:23 zecke: ok, thanks. Aug 24 09:13:41 hrw|work: could you add the feed-browser to OE? Aug 24 09:13:57 * koen heads out to gather some food Aug 24 09:13:58 koen: working on it now Aug 24 09:14:25 ok, now it's trying to grab uboot via cvs. i have to remember what i did yesterday to make cvs work thru this proxy Aug 24 09:29:54 i grabbed the uboot tarball from sourceforge, renamed it to what it was trying to grab from the cvs repo, and dropped it in my sources dir Aug 24 09:30:06 it unpacks it correctly, but when it tries to apply the arm patch... it fails again Aug 24 09:30:15 new error @ http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/28esyj46.html Aug 24 09:49:41 bigd0g: maybe grab the cvs snapshot tarball not a release tarball?@ Aug 24 09:50:56 XorA: i was thinking the same. can a grab a cvs snapshot tarball via http? Aug 24 09:51:11 bigd0g: you used to be able to on sourceforge Aug 24 09:51:32 XorA: ok, i'll give it a go Aug 24 09:52:03 oesources.org appears to have deprecated their uboot tree Aug 24 09:53:36 it's available at "cvs://anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/u-boot;module=u-boot" Aug 24 09:53:40 i tried "http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/u-boot;module=u-boot" Aug 24 09:53:51 that doesn't appear to work. is there something incorrect in that url ? Aug 24 10:01:57 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r9eba9db1... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Aug 24 10:01:57 feed-browser: starting version of web browser for feeds (GPLv2 license) Aug 24 10:01:57 - show packages list Aug 24 10:01:57 - show sections list Aug 24 10:01:57 - show package information Aug 24 10:01:57 - allow to download package Aug 24 10:03:48 koen: feel free to hack it Aug 24 10:04:09 XorA: have any idea what's wrong with "http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/u-boot;module=u-boot" ? Aug 24 10:04:35 bigd0g: yes ;) Aug 24 10:04:52 bigd0g: bitbake uses the URI to decide if it should use cvs,svn,wget,git... Aug 24 10:05:05 bigd0g: and it will do wget http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cvsroot/u-boot;module=u-boo Aug 24 10:05:33 bigd0g: don't waste too much time, just put mkimage into your path Aug 24 10:06:22 ok Aug 24 10:10:20 whats the "right" datatype to use for boolean values in the linux kernel? Aug 24 10:13:25 XorA: Reply to this topic > Aug 24 10:13:29 ops Aug 24 10:13:37 XorA: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=19095&view=findpost&p=139614 Aug 24 10:13:44 hi all Aug 24 10:21:11 03koen 07org.oe.dev * re302f817... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/update.php): contrib/feed-browser/update.php: add GPL header Aug 24 10:22:57 koen: what do you feel about new look? Aug 24 10:27:12 hrw|work: I wonder why he needs that? Aug 24 10:27:54 so do I Aug 24 10:28:31 hrw|work: I will look after I finish some xmms tidying Aug 24 10:29:18 3.5.4 upgrades contain too much stuff ;) Aug 24 10:36:44 * bigd0g wanders off: food Aug 24 10:37:51 hrw|work: it's very white :) Aug 24 10:38:13 koen: its clean Aug 24 10:38:24 what happened to the source fields? Aug 24 10:38:34 koen: OZ feed does not have Source info Aug 24 10:38:40 ah Aug 24 10:39:06 its stripped to save memory on devices Aug 24 10:39:47 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/fb/?action=details&pnm=qt-x11-qvfb Aug 24 10:40:09 and? Aug 24 10:40:58 people have been asking for that, and it has been in the feeds all the time Aug 24 10:41:30 ah.. qvfb Aug 24 10:41:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r2633d302... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/update.php): contrib/feed-browser/update.php: fix path to db Aug 24 10:43:38 koen, florian_kc: you do not use gtk+ other then 2.6.10 in OZ? Aug 24 10:44:21 not afaik Aug 24 10:44:48 zecke: i have now checked the stuff with the craped display and 2.6 on t-sinus pad(mq SXX20804 0022) and the trik with first booting 2.4 worked there - only as info Aug 24 10:44:56 I dropped other ones Aug 24 10:45:15 mr_nice_slacker: hmm weird, as I do a full reset of the mq200 on boot Aug 24 10:45:33 * zecke needs more time... Aug 24 10:46:01 I'm busy with preparing equipment for three fairs... Aug 24 10:47:09 hrw|work: not yet Aug 24 10:47:28 zecke: not a reset a complete disconnection of power (bat reset) results in a crapped display. Aug 24 10:49:27 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r58599d8a... 10/ (1 packages/gtk+/gtk+_2.6.10.bb): gtk+: s/-jpg/-jpeg as it is gdk-pixbuf-loader-jpeg Aug 24 10:49:32 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r9b5e1673... 10/ (161 files in 13 dirs): gtk+: dropped other then 2.6.10 Aug 24 10:52:51 hrw|work: just finishing testing an xmms version which seperates out plugins if you are nterested for OZ branch Aug 24 10:59:48 do i need to add every partition i made with hh.org bootldr to the linuxargs mtdparts argument - or only the bootldr and root partition? Aug 24 11:04:51 XorA: so xmms_1.2.10 -> xmms + xmms-plugin1 xmms-plugin2 etc? Aug 24 11:06:27 hrw|work: yes Aug 24 11:07:11 is it worth it? Aug 24 11:07:57 hrw|work: Visualization, Effects is pretty worthless on a PDA, and input-mpg123, input-vorbis and worthless without FPU Aug 24 11:08:11 and cdaudio is also waste Aug 24 11:08:44 xmms depend on needed ones? Aug 24 11:09:00 hrw|work: RRECOMMEND Aug 24 11:09:27 ok Aug 24 11:10:00 I dont think it technically Depends on any plugins, it just doesnt do much Aug 24 11:10:45 how does stuff end up depending on its -dbg package? Aug 24 11:11:43 Hi! Aug 24 11:12:01 njs: Any plans on mtn 0.29 package for Debian? Aug 24 11:12:51 morning all Aug 24 11:13:07 hey lrg Aug 24 11:14:02 ~lart rsync Aug 24 11:14:03 * ibot gets a hotmal account and SPAMs rsync Aug 24 11:14:09 XorA: I'm ordering you a dual Xeon 3Ghz with 2GB ram today Aug 24 11:14:18 psokolovsky_: you'd have to ask the debian maintainer (shaun) about that Aug 24 11:14:30 lrg: wooo, first time a work machine has been faster than my home machine Aug 24 11:14:50 XorA: dual LCD monitors and it no windows Aug 24 11:15:15 koen: I see. Ok. Aug 24 11:15:24 XorA: what distro would you like ? Aug 24 11:16:04 ~seen do13 Aug 24 11:16:08 do13 is currently on #oe (12h 37m 13s), last said: 'hrw|tv: ok. should we think about removing the 2.4 crap from .oz354x?'. Aug 24 11:18:45 lrg: I find debian easiest for OE work Aug 24 11:19:12 XorA: ok, remember and bring in CD's Aug 24 11:19:47 lrg: crap I forgot you guys have slow internet Aug 24 11:20:04 * XorA hasnt done a debian cd install for 10 years Aug 24 11:20:05 XorA: not any more, 100Mb on Monday :) Aug 24 11:20:25 lrg: X86_64 xeons? Aug 24 11:21:08 XorA: don't think so, my cpuinfo doesn't report any 64's Aug 24 11:21:45 lrg: nice machine Aug 24 11:22:17 hey Liam Aug 24 11:22:30 hey Dirk Aug 24 11:25:47 koen: prepare for another update of f-b Aug 24 11:32:58 ok Aug 24 11:33:03 03xora 07org.oe.dev * rba1952e7... 10/ (1 packages/xmms/xmms_1.2.10.bb): Aug 24 11:33:03 xmms_1.2.10.bb : split the plugins into seperate packages as very few Aug 24 11:33:03 of them make sense on a PDA platform. Aug 24 11:33:03 Add RRECOMMENDS for needed plugins and mad/tremor ones so people automatically Aug 24 11:33:04 get working mp3/ogg playback Aug 24 11:34:00 koen: index.php | 109 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------------------- Aug 24 11:41:48 RP: I think I found another bug in the OE metadata/multithreading Aug 24 11:42:04 koen: go on... :) Aug 24 11:42:20 koen: pushed Aug 24 11:42:24 RP: my multithreaded bitbake builds both hh-pxa-26 and linux-OZ for MACHINE=ipaq-pxa270 and 'bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image' Aug 24 11:42:59 RP: and 2.6.17 wins in do_rootfs :( Aug 24 11:43:27 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r14f31d96... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/update.php): feed-browser/update.php: define database name once Aug 24 11:43:32 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re8b7b3d1... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Aug 24 11:43:32 feed-browser: more cleanups Aug 24 11:43:32 - package details switched to definition list Aug 24 11:43:32 - database check/creation moved to function Aug 24 11:43:32 - removed dead code Aug 24 11:44:53 koen: did one of the builds fail? Aug 24 11:45:02 RP: no, both succeeded Aug 24 11:45:24 koen: strange. I wonder why it would do that... :-/ Aug 24 11:46:18 RP: multiple provides for something, and multithreading saying "let's build both!"? Aug 24 11:47:13 That's not the way it works - it has a list of providers in order of preference for each given target. The lower preferences shouldn't be touched unless the upper ones fail Aug 24 11:47:25 Did you build with -k? Aug 24 11:47:43 and did anything else in the build fail initially? Aug 24 11:48:10 rm tmp ; bitbake angstrom-bootstrap-image Aug 24 11:48:29 If something that depended on hh-pxa-26 failed, its possible it could have removed hh-pxap26 from the build. It would have only done that with -k though Aug 24 11:49:01 RP: I think it buids hh-pxa as virtual/kernel and linux-oz for hostap Aug 24 11:49:13 koen: ah, that would make sense Aug 24 11:49:22 I removed the ipaq-pxa270 from linux-oz locally Aug 24 11:49:54 hostap needing linux-oz would pull linux-oz in Aug 24 11:50:44 koen: Did it ask about any preferred providers? Aug 24 11:51:34 linux-oz still has hostap-modules in providers? Aug 24 11:54:07 koen: next changes to f-b would be joined with database changes probably Aug 24 11:57:45 hrw|work: I'll keep that in mind Aug 24 11:58:59 koen: get rid of p_/f_, adding ID to feeds, s/p_feed/feed_id etc Aug 24 12:00:21 koen: adding listtree of sections on left side, kind of searcher too Aug 24 12:01:17 hrw|work: "SELECT DISTINCT p_name,p_desc,p_section FROM packages WHERE p_name LIKE '$searchword' ORDER BY p_name ASC;" is not really what we want Aug 24 12:01:57 we only want p_name to be distinct, otherwise stuff without DESCRIPTION like gpe-conf shows up multiple times Aug 24 12:03:20 sure Aug 24 12:04:47 koen: and un-spaghetti code... Aug 24 12:04:56 yup Aug 24 12:05:22 and ideally put all functions in a .inc so index and update can share it Aug 24 12:13:54 hrw|work: realy not sure what that post is about, configure in mplayer takes no arguments to do with executable stacks Aug 24 12:14:33 XorA: you are mplayer maintainer - I do not have any idea what to write Aug 24 12:15:10 does OZ have selinux? Aug 24 12:16:10 o Aug 24 12:16:11 no Aug 24 12:22:32 hrw|work: I got bmpx to compile in OE, it crashes when run though :-( Aug 24 12:23:02 XorA: does strace/gdb give any clue? Aug 24 12:23:46 koen: havent had time to go through it yet Aug 24 12:24:00 koen: segfault on Angstrom, Floating Point Exception in OZ Aug 24 12:24:58 koen: but I was running an EABI kernel for OZ and that doesnt quite work Aug 24 12:26:22 though I did find a problem, qt/e removes RTTI from qmake built stuff, bmpx requires rtti in taglib Aug 24 12:27:11 qmake-base sorry Aug 24 12:32:58 hi folks Aug 24 12:34:36 * bigd0g is back from getting food Aug 24 12:34:45 so... how do i get a cvs tree via http? Aug 24 12:34:57 i'm trying ot get: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=65938 Aug 24 12:37:27 bigd0g: you can't Aug 24 12:37:57 hrm. so what are my options? Aug 24 12:38:03 bigd0g: uboot_cvs.bb has the wrong URI for sourceforge cvs, maybe thats your problem Aug 24 12:38:25 according to crofton only the git one works Aug 24 12:38:26 problem is i'm behind an http proxy stopping cvs traffic Aug 24 12:38:47 so i need some other way to get it, since cvs doesn't seem to act on http_proxy env vars Aug 24 12:39:01 not suprising as cvs doesnt use http Aug 24 12:39:08 hmm Aug 24 12:39:21 right. although i did find a patch to make it use it. but it's for an old version of cvs and not supported Aug 24 12:39:23 I think the older u-boots won't complie on gcc4 Aug 24 12:39:23 so... i'm kind of stuck Aug 24 12:39:49 I want to create a meta bb file for stuff I regularly compile. Going along the lines of the stuff in packages/meta/ I took the following steps. I'd appreciate comments if there is a more elegant way to do this. Aug 24 12:39:53 bigd0g, what is your problem again? Aug 24 12:39:58 1) added BBFILEBBFILES += "${PATH2OE}/mystuff/*/*.bb" to build/conf/local.conf Aug 24 12:39:58 2) created $PATH2OE/mystuff/meta/meta-rl.bb Aug 24 12:40:02 3) set DEPENDS in meta-rl.bb for the packages I want to build regularly Aug 24 12:40:02 4) bitbake meta-rl Aug 24 12:40:18 Crofton: i'm behind an http proxy that requires all traffic go through it. cvs doesn't use http or socks4, so i can't grab a tree Aug 24 12:40:34 Crofton: i need to know what other measure i can take to grab the sourceforge uboot tree Aug 24 12:40:55 I think grabbing u-boot from sf is a bad idea Aug 24 12:41:07 why? Aug 24 12:41:16 I think that is no longer maintained, or soon to be Aug 24 12:41:38 well, that's where bitbake is trying to download it from... and i'm trying to help bitbake along Aug 24 12:41:44 http://u-boot.sourceforge.net/ Aug 24 12:41:44 the other mirror listed is oesources.org Aug 24 12:41:48 it, however... is dead Aug 24 12:41:49 yeah Aug 24 12:42:06 try using the bb file I did that pulls from git Aug 24 12:42:18 does git work for you? Aug 24 12:42:24 i tried executing the bb file and it fails. am i supposed to do something special to it? Aug 24 12:42:33 which one? Aug 24 12:42:39 1 sec... Aug 24 12:43:13 what hardware are you trying to run on? Aug 24 12:43:38 i tried "bitbake u-boot_1.1.4.bb" ... i'm assuming that the wrong board Aug 24 12:43:50 i'm trying to build for an omap5912osk board Aug 24 12:43:53 ok Aug 24 12:43:57 I do also Aug 24 12:44:06 s/wrong board/wrong command Aug 24 12:44:17 use the git version Aug 24 12:44:30 I don't think 1.1.4 will build for the OSK Aug 24 12:44:43 so I made a bb file that gets source from a git tag that has the fixes Aug 24 12:45:29 what's the git version to grab it? Aug 24 12:45:38 standby Aug 24 12:45:58 cheers Aug 24 12:45:59 u lot get serious about work to early Aug 24 12:46:18 sorry? Aug 24 12:46:41 still trying to wrap my head around all of this. this is my first time working with this board and oe. Aug 24 12:46:47 u-boot_LABEL.2006.06.30.2020.bb Aug 24 12:46:54 that will build and work on the OSK Aug 24 12:47:15 I am working on the machine file for the osk Aug 24 12:47:34 oh, great. is there documentation or anything about will and what will not work on the board? Aug 24 12:47:40 heh Aug 24 12:47:42 no Aug 24 12:47:45 i have a feeling if i ever get this first filesystem built... it's not going to work Aug 24 12:47:52 yeah, that's what i was afraid of :) Aug 24 12:47:53 It should work Aug 24 12:48:06 I have had stuff working Aug 24 12:48:15 I am going through trying to make it idiot proff Aug 24 12:48:18 in my spare time Aug 24 12:48:23 u-bbot was step 1 Aug 24 12:48:41 next I want to make a more recent kernel Aug 24 12:48:53 I'll look at pushing my current machine file later today Aug 24 12:49:04 that includes the preferred verion oof u-boot Aug 24 12:49:20 is there something i should sign-up for to get that notice? mailing list or something? Aug 24 12:49:32 +PREFERRED_VERSION_u-boot = "LABEL.2006.06.30.2020" Aug 24 12:49:50 add that line to the omap5912osk machine file Aug 24 12:49:57 roger that Aug 24 12:50:10 curently it says to use 1.1.2 Aug 24 12:51:05 what are you using the OSK for? Aug 24 12:51:49 i'm working on developing an embedded wireless system for personal health monitors Aug 24 12:52:01 our test personal health monitor is a glucometer Aug 24 12:52:03 cool Aug 24 12:52:26 yeah, it should be fun. it's been a huge learning curve, though Aug 24 12:52:34 I think I am the current omap5912osk guru here Aug 24 12:52:41 which isn't saying much Aug 24 12:52:54 i'm a us unversity student trapped in ireland completing this. this is my first foray into embedded computing Aug 24 12:52:59 so please excuse my n00bness ;) Aug 24 12:53:01 I am going to push the prefered version change when I get to my lab Aug 24 12:53:06 heh Aug 24 12:53:10 we are strt somewhere Aug 24 12:53:53 do i have to add the preferred_version line anywhere special in that file? Aug 24 12:54:07 i don't see any other preferred_versions listed... just preferred_providers Aug 24 12:54:17 hmmm Aug 24 12:54:22 stand by Aug 24 12:54:30 let me go ahead and commit the change Aug 24 12:54:34 looks like I added it Aug 24 12:54:46 give me a few minutes to make sure I do this correctly Aug 24 12:54:54 sure thing. no worries Aug 24 12:55:10 I was trying to figure out what to order to upgrade mt tivo ..... Aug 24 12:55:43 a bigger hard drive ;) Aug 24 12:55:51 and neetwork Aug 24 12:56:15 i've wanted a tivo for a while. my student budget prevents that from happening. Aug 24 12:56:59 heh Aug 24 13:01:26 so... with the omap5912osk.conf file changed ... do i have to do a complete re-build? Aug 24 13:01:34 or can i just let bitbake pick-up where it left off? Aug 24 13:02:36 not sure Aug 24 13:02:44 ok, i'll give it a go and see what happens Aug 24 13:02:48 probably try restarting Aug 24 13:03:13 just getting ready to push now Aug 24 13:03:20 ok, cool Aug 24 13:03:59 ok Aug 24 13:04:08 mtn pull; mtn update Aug 24 13:04:40 you were failing building ubbot? Aug 24 13:04:47 yes Aug 24 13:04:52 well... it couldn't pull it Aug 24 13:04:55 bitbake -c clean uboot Aug 24 13:04:56 so it never really got a chance to build Aug 24 13:04:57 03crofton 07org.oe.dev * r3207f3e4... 10/ (1 conf/machine/omap5912osk.conf): Aug 24 13:04:57 omap5912osk: change prefered version of u-boot to a recent git tag Aug 24 13:04:57 * Compiles with gcc 4.x Aug 24 13:04:57 * Compiles for omap5912osk Aug 24 13:05:11 there you go Aug 24 13:05:20 cheers. trying the pull/update now Aug 24 13:06:10 aren't i just supposed to do the mtn pull within the org.oe.dev tree? Aug 24 13:06:50 yes Aug 24 13:07:06 cd'ing to dev and doing mtn pull should work Aug 24 13:07:12 if the defaults are set ok Aug 24 13:08:07 guess they're not set ok Aug 24 13:08:22 mtn --db=.... pull Aug 24 13:08:39 Somewhere there are instructions on setting them Aug 24 13:10:06 i found the web site. i had it bookmarked Aug 24 13:10:17 getting started guide - http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/GettingStarted Aug 24 13:10:45 bigd0g: cd 'working copy'; mtn --set-default pull SERVER BRANCHES Aug 24 13:11:11 bbiab, need to get "dressed" Aug 24 13:11:33 hrw|work: thanks Aug 24 13:12:28 hrw|work: mtn: error: sqlite error: database is locked Aug 24 13:12:42 other monotone process use it Aug 24 13:12:50 oh... Aug 24 13:12:56 * bigd0g checks jobs Aug 24 13:14:13 hrw|work: great. that worked. Aug 24 13:14:24 looks like mtn also doesn't like this http_proxy Aug 24 13:14:36 i must've pulled the database from my residential connection Aug 24 13:17:35 hrm. damn. there's not a way to pull the tree through an http proxy, is there? Aug 24 13:17:49 morning Aug 24 13:18:06 greetz, chouimat Aug 24 13:20:35 bigd0g: 0.27+ can sync over ssh Aug 24 13:21:24 bigd0g: sounds like you need some general software to break out of firewall Aug 24 13:21:58 hrw|work: yeah. the campus is limited to an http_proxy and a socksv4_proxy. anything else isn't allowed Aug 24 13:22:05 XorA: any recommendations? Aug 24 13:22:34 XorA: i saw transconnect on sf... but it appears to no longer be developed Aug 24 13:23:16 complain you can't actually work with that firewall ..... Aug 24 13:23:38 you could apply the change by hand for now Aug 24 13:23:55 is viewmtn running against OE db? Aug 24 13:24:38 Crofton: a copy of the db Aug 24 13:24:43 bigd0g: you can try http://proxytunnel.sourceforge.net/ Aug 24 13:24:45 Crofton: synced every 30 minutes Aug 24 13:24:51 ok Aug 24 13:25:06 bigd0g: can you ssh somewhere? You can easily setup a socks proxy Aug 24 13:25:12 http://www.openembedded.org/aggregator/sources Aug 24 13:25:24 zecke: ssh is blocked unless i can route it through the proxy. haven't figured out how to yet Aug 24 13:25:40 if i could ssh to my university in the us, i'd be fine. we have an open network. Aug 24 13:26:11 do13_: looking up that link now Aug 24 13:27:36 Crofton: http://www.openembedded.org/aggregator/sources pulls from viewmtn every hour (or somethinglike that) Aug 24 13:28:07 bigd0g: looked at httptunnel? Aug 24 13:28:21 bigd0g: will tunnel any tcp/ip through a http proxy Aug 24 13:28:33 XorA: that sounds more what i'm looking for Aug 24 13:28:59 do13_: thanks for proxy tunnel Aug 24 13:29:06 XorA: is it this? http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html Aug 24 13:29:07 bigd0g: http://www.nocrew.org/software/httptunnel.html Aug 24 13:29:10 :) Aug 24 13:29:11 snap Aug 24 13:29:14 XorA: installing firefox now Aug 24 13:29:19 zecke: np Aug 24 13:29:35 do13_: I think the most nasty setup is to proxytunnel to ssh and then start pppd to get a interface on your host... Aug 24 13:30:10 Argh Aug 24 13:31:47 zecke: Hmm I had a bb-file for proxytunnel, but can't remember on which machine Aug 24 13:32:26 XorA: hrm. httptunnel still requires me to install something on an external machine Aug 24 13:33:34 bigd0g: sorry I misunderstood, I thought you had access to a unix shell elsewhere Aug 24 13:34:16 XorA: well, i do... as soon as i get access to ssh. i suppose i could try setting this up from home Aug 24 13:34:50 is there any possible way to override the inclusion of "dropbear" in an openslug-image build which is pulled in by images/slugos-image.bb ? Aug 24 13:38:07 Caelian|work: use BB collections Aug 24 13:38:17 CoreDump|home: and replace Openslug files with your prefered copy Aug 24 13:38:56 zecke, this is basically my first time with hacking on openslug firmware ... could you perhaps provide a little bit more detail ? Aug 24 13:39:13 Caelian|work: Read the Manual :) Aug 24 13:39:24 zecke, link ? Aug 24 13:39:35 http://bitbake.berlios.de/manual/ch04s02.html#id2522780 Aug 24 13:40:30 zecke, aaaah ... this looks very interesting :) Aug 24 13:40:34 http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch04s03 Aug 24 13:40:38 one learns something new every day :) Aug 24 13:41:31 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/ Aug 24 13:41:50 hrw|work: hmmm Aug 24 13:41:57 hrw|work: can those section be collapsed Aug 24 13:42:23 hrw|work: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=gqview Aug 24 13:42:30 zecke, in the second link ... it uses ${LOCALDIR} is that variable always available ... and if so what does it "contain" ? Aug 24 13:42:35 koen: probably can but not now Aug 24 13:42:42 in my browser the sectionlist overlaps with the main screen Aug 24 13:43:16 Caelian|work: no Aug 24 13:43:23 it shows that I think sections are nonsense :) Aug 24 13:43:28 Caelian|work: it is your LOCALDIR Aug 24 13:43:34 * koen looks at the 'base' section Aug 24 13:43:43 koen: it show that we need to cleanup sections Aug 24 13:43:48 that too Aug 24 14:01:23 koen: changed css Aug 24 14:02:47 much better Aug 24 14:03:15 * koen browses the tango project for some icons Aug 24 14:05:38 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=bl Aug 24 14:09:03 that's bit clearer as 'main screen' Aug 24 14:12:14 ok... i'm going to try setting these things up from my residential connection Aug 24 14:12:31 be back in a couple hours Aug 24 14:12:35 thanks for the help Aug 24 14:12:42 XorA: firefox does a SIGILL Aug 24 14:13:01 koen: :-( Aug 24 14:13:09 koen: worse than it used to then Aug 24 14:13:19 hmm Aug 24 14:13:22 now it segfaults Aug 24 14:14:39 koen: though under angstrom SIG* is a random event :-) Aug 24 14:19:26 meh Aug 24 14:19:33 someone teach rday the wiki concept Aug 24 14:19:52 koen: buy an OE baseball bat Aug 24 14:20:14 I'll print OE shirts instead Aug 24 14:20:27 * XorA needs an OE shirt Aug 24 14:24:46 koen: This Page Is Valid XHTML 1.0 Strict! Aug 24 14:24:58 hrw|work: cool Aug 24 14:25:54 Extended Input Devices not yet supported. Impelement it at line 625 in kinput.c Aug 24 14:25:58 ~lart kdrive devs Aug 24 14:25:59 * ibot sends a legion of lawyers after kdrive devs's head Aug 24 14:26:05 hehe Aug 24 14:26:08 no lag Aug 24 14:26:45 woglinde: hey? Aug 24 14:26:52 he zecke Aug 24 14:26:58 hms my initrd didnt work Aug 24 14:27:18 need to look up why "no cpio magic found" is raised Aug 24 14:28:52 hm nice with net beans you now able to programm with CDC profile Aug 24 14:28:57 for Aug 24 14:29:01 koen: your php and html skills scares me a bit Aug 24 14:29:08 *g* Aug 24 14:29:10 I have skills? Aug 24 14:30:58 koen: index.php | 131 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---------------------- Aug 24 14:31:07 koen: you are 1337 Aug 24 14:31:33 o koen needed less lines? Aug 24 14:32:09 beware my next changeset Aug 24 14:33:45 * koen bewares Aug 24 14:34:28 what's the good method to remove lib that are in staging ? Aug 24 14:34:34 rm Aug 24 14:34:37 oki Aug 24 14:34:57 bitbake -c clean deosn't remove them , i was surprising :) Aug 24 14:35:15 I noticed that OE's mozconfig file for Firefox includes --disable-accessibility. Does this really need to be turned off? Aug 24 14:35:52 mattcamp: how did you gdb firefox? Aug 24 14:36:10 * Genesis try to compile FF 1.5 Aug 24 14:36:38 I didn't gdb firefox itself; I ran gdb on regxpcom after adding /usr/lib/firefox-1.5.0.6 to LD_LIBRARY_PATH Aug 24 14:37:43 But about --disable-accessibility in mozconfig, this should be configurable through a .conf file. Alternatively, just move components/libaccessibility.so to a separate package if you're that concerned about size. Aug 24 14:38:01 because sometimes the accessibility feature is needed. Aug 24 14:39:31 hmz Aug 24 14:39:40 why does my glibc build keep failing? Aug 24 14:39:43 let me elaborate: Aug 24 14:39:58 i want a toolchain with a gcc 3.4.4 compiler Aug 24 14:40:10 is apm included in any of the existing oe packages? Aug 24 14:40:27 but the glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627.bb errors out with some assembler error Aug 24 14:40:30 as does 2.3.3 Aug 24 14:40:42 what's the preferred glibc for gcc 3.4.4? Aug 24 14:41:31 giel: kernel 2.6 on target? Aug 24 14:41:52 koen: pushed Aug 24 14:42:01 yes Aug 24 14:42:02 2.6.10 Aug 24 14:42:15 and upgrading is no option Aug 24 14:42:15 giel: try glibc 2.4 then? Aug 24 14:42:20 mattcamp: it still crashes over here on a dl_open Aug 24 14:42:41 koen: Do you have firefox-dbg installed? Aug 24 14:42:47 hrw|work: i'm going into territory not really understood by me, but does glibc 2.4 also work with non-eabi stuff? Aug 24 14:42:51 mattcamp: not anymore :) Aug 24 14:43:10 mattcamp wich version of FF ? Aug 24 14:43:27 1.5.0.6 Aug 24 14:43:48 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * re3e21d5a... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Aug 24 14:43:48 feed-browser: another set of functionality and look changes Aug 24 14:43:48 - added sections tree on left side Aug 24 14:43:48 - need some work as we do not have 'e' or 'gnome' section so parts are wrong Aug 24 14:43:48 - letterchooser is always visible Aug 24 14:43:49 - removed menu as it is useless now Aug 24 14:43:51 - package details has versions sorted by PV Aug 24 14:43:58 i've a pb of conflict with dependancies Aug 24 14:44:26 libgtk-x11-2.0.so: undefined reference to `g_intern_static_string Aug 24 14:44:38 with FF 1.5.0.1 and not with 1.0 Aug 24 14:44:54 which glib/gtk verison mattcamp ? Aug 24 14:45:09 ( same with libbonoboui ) Aug 24 14:45:27 I haven't actually run Firefox yet; I'll get to that today. Aug 24 14:45:35 oki Aug 24 14:46:14 mattcamp, : if you succeed , warn me Aug 24 14:46:14 hrw|work: what is the tc6393 chip in the tosa? Aug 24 14:47:30 Genesis: OK, I'm rebuilding now with the --disable-accessibility option removed from mozconfig Aug 24 14:47:35 mikearthur: toshiba gfx chip iirc Aug 24 14:47:40 hrw|work: cheers Aug 24 14:50:33 mattcamp: http://rafb.net/paste/results/POaC2b58.html Aug 24 14:52:26 What is the distro file for? Aug 24 14:52:56 hrw|work: i have the feeling i fundementally don't understand the process of building a toolchain, but now it's trying to build glibc-intermediate_2.4 and the configure complains about the compiler not having threads support Aug 24 14:54:42 giel: so do I sometimes Aug 24 14:54:52 :) Aug 24 14:55:03 giel: building for non arm? Aug 24 14:55:07 XorA: no, arm Aug 24 14:55:20 i have seen this stuff before and i thought i figured it out, but i forgot how :( Aug 24 14:56:29 giel: eneabling nptl? Aug 24 14:57:09 XorA: i don't know, should i? isn't it on by default? what is it? Aug 24 14:57:16 giel: you want to build a glibc 2.4, NTPL, EABI toolchain? Aug 24 14:57:36 zecke: no, i want to build a non-eabi toolchain, for the rest i don't really care Aug 24 14:57:55 zecke: because in my understanding i need a newer kernel for eabi Aug 24 14:58:21 ah nptl is hte thread stuff Aug 24 14:58:24 i need threads Aug 24 14:58:29 giel: you want to build glibc2.4 which only has NTPL support Aug 24 14:58:50 giel: in contrast to < 2.4 which allowed NTPL and LinuxThreads Aug 24 14:59:13 upgrading 2.6.10 -> 2.6.16/17 should not be implossiblem.. Aug 24 14:59:15 giel: for glibc2.4 your cross initial compiler needs thread support enabled but more I don't know Aug 24 14:59:30 suihkulokki: yes it is not impossible, but too much effort for now... heaps of out-of-tree drivers Aug 24 14:59:47 anyway need to finish stuff for IBC Aug 24 15:00:09 zecke: i do not necessarily want 2.4, but the 2.3.5+cvs and 2.3.3 ones errored out with something about an assembly error Aug 24 15:00:28 giel: then take a look at openzaurus-unstable.conf Aug 24 15:00:36 giel: and set a preferred version of binutils Aug 24 15:00:38 will do, thanks for the pointer Aug 24 15:00:53 giel: binutils 2.17 does not work with old glibc :} Aug 24 15:00:59 is the preferred version of binutils also in openzaurus-unstable? Aug 24 15:01:03 zecke: ah! thanks! Aug 24 15:01:21 giel: yes, it is in openzaurus-unstable, there are two lines you can copy into you local.conf Aug 24 15:01:45 zecke: thanks a lot! will try! Aug 24 15:01:51 hrw|work: what would the parent of the tosa touchscreen device be? Aug 24 15:01:54 zecke: btw, we should meet up at the IBC exhibition! Aug 24 15:02:04 zecke: or aren't you coming? Aug 24 15:02:09 giel: I won't be there, just need to pack stuff, update phones :( Aug 24 15:02:13 *back office* Aug 24 15:02:13 mikearthur: It doesn't have to have a parent Aug 24 15:02:49 zecke: good luck Aug 24 15:05:17 koen: What's at the URL that you sent me a few minute ago: Aug 24 15:05:51 RP: ok, but should I make one anyway? Aug 24 15:05:56 mikearthur: I'm not familiar with kernel code Aug 24 15:06:11 hrw|work: no worries Aug 24 15:06:22 hrw|work: you just seem to know whats going on :D Aug 24 15:07:49 koen: Oh, I see, it's an strace dump. Aug 24 15:11:30 koen: index.php | 44 ++++++++++++-------------------------------- Aug 24 15:11:41 koen: Were you running firefox or regxpcom? Aug 24 15:12:13 in a kernel bb file, how can I run some machine specific stuff to assemble the kernel into an inage suitbale for falshing? Aug 24 15:13:06 mattcamp: firefox-bin Aug 24 15:13:39 Crofton: do_deploy() { if MACHINE == 'my machine' then do magic;fi}? Aug 24 15:13:46 giel: have you seen http://planet.linuxtogo.org/ ? Aug 24 15:13:54 ok Aug 24 15:14:08 Crofton: look at packages/linux/linux-openzaurus.inc Aug 24 15:14:21 Crofton: but your override should work :} Aug 24 15:14:40 unless we call do_deploy without doing update_data Aug 24 15:15:05 mattcamp: regxpcom breaks at the same point Aug 24 15:15:31 koen: Are you sure the problem is with a dlopen call? Based on the strace output (in particular, the fact that it crashed right after loading a JS file), I suspect a problem with xptcall. xptcall has segfaulted on ARM before. Aug 24 15:15:53 mattcamp: I'm not sure anymore Aug 24 15:16:11 mattcamp: the dl_open stuff was probably a remnant of having debug files Aug 24 15:16:14 I will try to debug it on my device. Aug 24 15:16:18 which are gone now Aug 24 15:16:26 koen: pushing new stuff for you Aug 24 15:16:32 hrw|work: yay! Aug 24 15:17:57 koen: Incidentally, I've worked with Mozilla on XScale-based hardware before, in a project I did about two years ago. Aug 24 15:18:21 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r2b7f351a... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/index.php): feed-browser: no need to keep two copies of package listing generation code Aug 24 15:18:26 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbefec029... 10/ (1 contrib/feed-browser/index.php): feed-browser: split maintainers to separate lines (works when ', ' is used as separator Aug 24 15:18:29 koen: At that time, I had to use gcc 2.95.x because xptcall crashed when I used gcc 3.x. Aug 24 15:19:37 we had minimo running a while ago Aug 24 15:19:38 koen: But OE has a patch for that; maybe that's broken in FF 1.5 Aug 24 15:19:41 and FF 1.0 Aug 24 15:20:48 firefox 1.0.7 series run fne Aug 24 15:21:30 firefox 1.0/1.5 are obsolete Aug 24 15:21:31 zecke: no, will look at the page Aug 24 15:21:43 zecke: it seems this is working now, it's still compiling, thanks a lot! Aug 24 15:21:55 zecke: i would never figured out by myself i needed an older binutils Aug 24 15:22:45 zecke: ah your blog! will read Aug 24 15:22:54 dvbsnoop sounds good! Aug 24 15:24:15 ;) Aug 24 15:24:32 in contrast to dvbnet it is not oopsing your machine Aug 24 15:25:48 hehe Aug 24 15:25:54 zecke: i've got a custom tuntap like thingy Aug 24 15:26:11 zecke: a kernel module that makes an ethernet device and a device node Aug 24 15:26:20 zecke: write to the device node, it ends up in the ethernet device Aug 24 15:26:32 zecke: that's what i use instead of the dvbnet mess Aug 24 15:27:11 giel: I need to learn the 'dvr' API and finally I'm able to get the full transport stream on my Apple notebook and x86 desktop Aug 24 15:27:34 I wonder if implementing the MPE FEC is any fun Aug 24 15:27:58 zecke: yeah, i'm supported by philips semiconductors for that stuff, has advantages and disadvantages, at least i have some hardware and some more-or-less working stuff, but their code is quite horrible Aug 24 15:28:04 zecke: they really are linux noobs Aug 24 15:28:06 Has anyone considered alternatives to hard-coding --disable-accessibility in Firefox's mozconfig file? Some users need this feature. Aug 24 15:28:24 http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/2006/08/24/feed-browser/ Aug 24 15:29:22 hrw|work: cool Aug 24 15:31:04 cu Aug 24 15:32:52 mattcamp: someone was probably a bit overzealous with space-saving Aug 24 15:33:57 hrw|gone: http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Gallery has some nice icons for feedbrowser Aug 24 15:34:53 koen: Agreed. I've removed that option from my copy. Aug 24 15:35:26 koen: If size is really a problem, I think moving components/libaccessibility.so to a separate package would be an acceptable compromise. Aug 24 15:35:45 yeah Aug 24 15:43:49 hrw|gone: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/fb/?action=details&pnm=a52dec (note the icons) Aug 24 15:50:51 hey koen, this you gave shows a52dec 0.7.4-r0 twice (once for OZ 3.5.4 and once for OZ 3.5.4.1). isn't that a bit confusing? looks good though Aug 24 15:51:04 pH5: it is Aug 24 15:51:10 pH5: it should include the feed name Aug 24 15:51:20 (or we shouldn't include multiple releases) Aug 24 15:51:49 oh well, s/this you/this example you/ :) Aug 24 15:52:19 koen: I'd prefer option (b), if the two versions are identical (and they should be) Aug 24 15:57:35 pH5: is the dbus-glib cset in already? Aug 24 15:58:49 koen: regxpcom doesn't segfault for me. Aug 24 15:59:44 koen: only the part that makes old dbus packages provide dbus-glib Aug 24 16:01:06 koen: What hardware and what toolchain are you using? Aug 24 16:01:29 mattcamp: glibc 2.4/gcc4.1.1/EABI pxa270 Aug 24 16:01:38 koen: I'll check in the change for some gpe packages Aug 24 16:02:56 koen: Ah, OK. We're using glibc 2.3.5+cvs20050627 and gcc 3.4.4. Aug 24 16:04:24 Hello Aug 24 16:06:16 koen: Does Firefox 1.0.7 work with the same toolchain? Aug 24 16:06:55 hi sirfred Aug 24 16:07:58 mattcamp: haven't really tried Aug 24 16:08:21 mattcamp: building that one now Aug 24 16:08:42 so once i've got an updated oe database from mtn, how do i merge it with the existing tree? Aug 24 16:08:52 if i try to checkout, it errors stating the folder already exists Aug 24 16:08:52 koen: I think it would be worthwhile to try. I suspect that the xptcall implementation for ARM is broken when compiled with gcc 4.x, as it was for 3.x about two and a half years ago. Aug 24 16:11:03 koen: Anyway, Firefox 1.5 now runs with my toolchain. (Granted, I can't see it because my device has no screen and my text-to-speech code for Firefox isn't working yet, but that's another story.) Aug 24 16:11:29 :) Aug 24 16:13:25 I want to see how to add usb support for the PXA270, I need USB mass storage and USB serial converter. Is there a good example I can go and look at in one of the existing kernels in OE? Aug 24 16:16:47 Gerrath: the modules exist. if the pxa270 is the host, you need uhci-hcd, usb-storage and usb-serial, if it's on the other end you need pxa27x_udc, g_file_storage and g_serial Aug 24 16:17:25 pH5, I'm assuming I can just compile them all in so there is no need to load/unload modules? Aug 24 16:18:21 Gerrath: not for the gadget drivers, only one of g_file_storage and g_serial can be loaded at a time. Aug 24 16:19:19 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r3f115a3c... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): gpe-autostarter: depend on dbus-glib Aug 24 16:19:23 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rc3e7c314... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): gpe-beam: depend on dbus-glib Aug 24 16:19:23 pH5 ok, but if I'm just doing a generic serial and a generic mass storage then compiling it in should work, correct? Aug 24 16:19:28 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r4511935a... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gpe-calendar: depend on dbus-glib Aug 24 16:19:33 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * rbb532edd... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-contacts/gpe-contacts_0.45.bb): gpe-contacts-0.45: depend on dbus-glib Aug 24 16:19:39 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r2727f913... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): gpe-filemanager: depend on dbus-glib Aug 24 16:20:12 Gerrath: yes. I compiled in pxa27x_udc + g_ether here and it worked just fine. Aug 24 16:20:56 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r8c3e8231... 10/ (1 packages/libhal-nm packages/libhal-nm/libhal-nm_0.0.2.bb): libhal-nm: add 0.0.2 by Milan Plzik. Aug 24 16:21:01 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r03a83944... 10/ (1 packages/hicolor-icon-theme/hicolor-icon-theme_0.9.bb): hicolor-icon-theme: add 0.9 (by Milan Plzik) Aug 24 16:21:06 03florian 07org.oe.dev * rb5047198... 10/ (5 files in 4 dirs): libnl: add 1.0-pre6 based on an earlier version by Milan Plzik Aug 24 16:21:11 03florian 07org.oe.dev * r0c62f25e... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): dhcdbd: Add 1.14 by Milan Plzik Aug 24 16:21:14 pH5, good, eventially I want to do it modular but it (ipk) wants to install the kernel as well since the kernel is not accessable via the rootfs and I don't want to deal with that issue yet :-) Aug 24 16:22:12 Gerrath: empty the kernel package Aug 24 16:22:33 Gerrath: for ipaq-pxa270 it just creates an empty k.. as koen said :) Aug 24 16:22:47 koen, great, man that is simple. can't believe I didn't think of that one :-/ Aug 24 16:26:55 pH5, I see the option for the OHCI option in the kernel config but not the UHCI, do you know what it is labled as in the kernel config? Aug 24 16:29:08 Gerrath: my error, ohci is correct for the pxa270 usb host. Aug 24 16:29:55 pH5, great, thanks. Aug 24 16:33:02 note to self: before updating oe.dev tree... back-up your local.conf file Aug 24 16:33:03 grr Aug 24 16:35:29 bigd0g: er? your local.conf shouldn't be in the tree.... Aug 24 16:36:12 it was in the conf folder. that's the only way i could get bitbake to run it. i'm sure there's another way? Aug 24 16:42:24 bigd0g: it looks for conf/local.conf in every folder of your BBPATH environment variable Aug 24 16:43:19 pH5: ohhh Aug 24 16:59:44 heh Aug 24 17:00:11 I just love people who don't do their homework and spend ages reinventing the wheel Aug 24 17:00:27 ? Aug 24 17:01:19 chouimat: someone has trouble making a .bb for gdal Aug 24 17:01:31 which I added a few weeks ago Aug 24 17:01:47 koen i see ... Aug 24 17:03:11 * chouimat is listening to "Lord of Light" by Iron Maiden on A Matter of Life and Death [amaroK] Aug 24 17:03:22 hrm... Aug 24 17:03:29 does anyone know what causes these types of errors? Aug 24 17:03:30 ERROR: /home/bigd0g/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-keytabs/opie-keytabs_cvs.bb Aug 24 17:03:30 is not a BitBake file while parsing /home/bigd0g/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/opie-keytabs/opie-keytabs_cvs.bb Aug 24 17:04:34 most of the time it's being caused by opie-keytabs_cvs.bb not being a bb file Aug 24 17:05:29 koen: What's the status of your Firefox 1.0.7 build? Aug 24 17:06:11 ~seen crofton Aug 24 17:06:26 crofton is currently on #casualti (2h 52m 5s) #ol (2h 52m 5s) #oe (2h 52m 5s) #elinux (2h 52m 5s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1h 52m 32s, last said: 'ok'. Aug 24 17:07:35 mattcamp: still going Aug 24 17:08:23 n/m ... i think i found the error in my local.conf Aug 24 17:08:48 much better. Aug 24 17:12:03 when generating the cache for a new bitbake build, i get: Aug 24 17:12:04 NOTE: Handling BitBake files: \ (0434/3943) [11 %]ERROR: Could not include required file swig_1.3.29.bb while parsing /home/bigd0g/stuff/org.openembedded.dev/packages/swig/swig-native_1.3.29.bb Aug 24 17:12:10 should it concern me? Aug 24 17:21:54 bigd0g: that's a known problem. Someone forgot to check in a file Aug 24 17:22:24 JustinP: ok, thanks. i updated bitbake and the repo and saw that... got me concerned Aug 24 17:38:36 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r7ed71e4c... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tslib: remove detect-stylus from ipaq-pxa270 RDEPENDS Aug 24 17:40:34 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r63c780f3... 10/ (1 packages/swig/swig_1.3.29.bb): swig-1.3.29: add missing recipe that bitbake complains about Aug 24 17:45:00 re Aug 24 17:45:12 a+ Aug 24 17:52:21 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r2aa3e694... 10/ (1 packages/xorg-util/xorg-util-common.inc): xorg-util: use tar.bz2 sources instead of tar.gz Aug 24 17:52:27 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r74b1d902... 10/ (6 files in 2 dirs): gpe-bluetooth: depend on dbus-glib Aug 24 17:52:32 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r59362794... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gpe-bluetooth-0.54: add BTS support to hciattach script Aug 24 18:11:55 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r40cf0ba6... 10/ (1 packages/libhal-nm/libhal-nm_0.0.2.bb): libhal-mm: fix packaging and recipe style Aug 24 18:12:01 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r45d524b8... 10/ (1 packages/libnl/libnl_1.0-pre6.bb): libnl: fix PV and clean it up a bit Aug 24 18:17:33 koen: Have you had a chance to run Firefox 1.0.7 on your device yet? Aug 24 18:17:41 not yet Aug 24 18:30:08 anyone know how to fix "dependency virtual/arm-linux-depmod (for linux-omap1) not satisfied? Aug 24 18:30:33 I am trying to make a bb file that gets kernel source from linux ompa git repo? Aug 24 18:31:12 possibly because PV=v2.6.17-omap1? Aug 24 18:32:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * reaa8c25e... 10/ (9 files in 4 dirs): networkmanager: add modified nm by Milan Plzik Aug 24 18:41:21 morning all Aug 24 18:41:47 I try to understand how to build a new libsdl-qpe - therefore I started reading about Autotools; Aug 24 18:42:32 but there's no configure.ac for libsdl? - Do I missunderstand something - thought this file is needed by autotools? Aug 24 18:50:37 koen: http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=kbdd Aug 24 18:52:58 pgfeller: not needed Aug 24 18:53:10 pgfeller: configure.in is enough Aug 24 18:53:52 hrw|tv: cute Aug 24 18:53:52 hrw: but configure.in was initially generated out of an .ac - or is it also practice to write them manually? Aug 24 18:55:18 pgfeller: it can be written by hand Aug 24 18:55:23 koen: css rulz Aug 24 18:55:41 hrw|tv: it does indeed Aug 24 18:56:10 hrw: thanks Aug 24 18:56:36 i've got some more problems when compile linux-omap1... failing on glibc again Aug 24 18:56:41 is someone available to help? Aug 24 18:56:44 config.log -- http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/AjL9YU96.html Aug 24 18:57:05 log.do_configure -- http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5ZLGDR22.html Aug 24 18:57:36 i specified bintools and bintools-cross, as zecke suggested last time, in my local.conf Aug 24 18:57:46 but, as noted, it appears to be failing again Aug 24 18:59:07 bigd0g: sorry you are at the furst error again?! Aug 24 18:59:59 bigd0g: now you use a different gcc, now your tuning must contain a '-' again ;) Aug 24 19:00:08 one has to love the gcc people Aug 24 19:00:38 koen: feeding with feeds now... Aug 24 19:00:42 brb Aug 24 19:03:31 zecke: haha. yeah, i was surprised to be at that error again. thanks :) Aug 24 19:03:50 zecke: i was making note of all the config changes, but i guess i forgot about the tuning file Aug 24 19:03:52 cheers Aug 24 19:05:28 bigd0g: oh well, it is a ping pong with' -s' and 's' on different versions of gcc Aug 24 19:08:47 grr Aug 24 19:09:00 I am trying to make a bb file to build an omap kernel from git Aug 24 19:09:04 but I fail with Aug 24 19:09:16 Crofton: we have a sample git kernel file (RPs one) Aug 24 19:09:20 Crofton: fetching works? Aug 24 19:09:38 dependency virtual/arm-linux-depmod- (for linux-omap1) not satified Aug 24 19:09:43 fails b4 the fetch Aug 24 19:10:02 I think I will do the fetch ok, since I have u-boot building from git Aug 24 19:10:23 Crofton: 'depmod-' looks like you need to specify some kind of version Aug 24 19:10:39 yeah Aug 24 19:10:48 I don't know if KERNEL_VERSION is still there Aug 24 19:10:57 zecke: hi Aug 24 19:11:46 Crofton: check line 4 of kernel.bbclass Aug 24 19:11:54 I wonder if that dependency is coming from Aug 24 19:11:55 ah Aug 24 19:11:56 ok Aug 24 19:12:00 kernel.bbclass:4:DEPENDS += "virtual/${TARGET_PREFIX}depmod-${@get_kernelmajorversion('${PV}') Aug 24 19:13:01 PV is v2.6.17-omap1 Aug 24 19:13:23 bb file is linux-omap1_v2.6.17-omap1.bb Aug 24 19:14:01 check get_kernelmajorversion then Aug 24 19:15:26 Crofton: can you omit the v? Aug 24 19:15:32 I think I will need to change PV to 2.6.17-omap1 Aug 24 19:15:39 then edit it to get git tag ... Aug 24 19:16:02 Crofton: ask RP and we can change the get_kernel_majorversion to allow 'v' Aug 24 19:16:36 when is he usually about? Aug 24 19:17:10 now, later and always ;) Aug 24 19:17:52 RP, you paying attention? Aug 24 19:19:44 Crofton: or write a mail Aug 24 19:19:49 Crofton: or decide not to use v Aug 24 19:19:52 heh Aug 24 19:20:06 supporting v would be helpful Aug 24 19:21:50 putting 'v' in a var called version isd a bit superfluous Aug 24 19:23:12 well Aug 24 19:23:22 I am doing it so I can use PV as the git tag Aug 24 19:23:36 * Crofton didn't create the tag Aug 24 19:23:37 tag=v${PV}? Aug 24 19:23:53 yeah Aug 24 19:24:30 IS that prefered over hacking get kernel-major version? Aug 24 19:25:01 * koen <- lazy Aug 24 19:25:06 I'd say yes Aug 24 19:25:21 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tmp/hrw/fb/?action=details&pnm=kernel Aug 24 19:25:28 because you are lazy :) Aug 24 19:26:40 hrw|tv: what to you think about moving 'size' to the seperate download links? Aug 24 19:26:58 koen: idea correct Aug 24 19:27:36 koen: but not today Aug 24 19:27:49 koen: it need thinking how to present it Aug 24 19:28:08 hm, i'm getting "mtn: warning: protocol error while processing peer ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl: 'received network error: remote public key hash 'b5b58f8c07cbbb054b19db799ae0a2ae2727575c' is unknown'" when trying to push. It's my first mtn 0.26+ push, and I thought i properly imported my private key. Aug 24 19:28:14 has my pubkey maybe not been included in the new database? Aug 24 19:28:39 tmbinc: good question Aug 24 19:28:41 cu Aug 24 19:28:51 hrw|tv: or wait for the hundreds of patches all the users will contribute Aug 24 19:29:24 koen: who knows.. Aug 24 19:29:31 b5b58f8c07cbbb054b19db799ae0a2ae2727575c tmbinc@openembedded.org Aug 24 19:29:45 tmbinc: monotone.openembedded.org has your key Aug 24 19:30:45 oh, i didn't even knew about monotone.openembedded.org. thanks :) Aug 24 19:31:30 anyone knows where I can check what "gnu-configize" does ...? Aug 24 19:31:55 pgfeller: log.do_configure, or in general? Aug 24 19:32:09 zecke: in general Aug 24 19:32:24 dunno Aug 24 19:33:52 zecke: if I just inherit autotools libsdl-qpe it won't configure - but if I override do_configure() with gnu-configize & oe_runconf it builds something Aug 24 19:34:06 zecke: now I need to understand what and why ;-) Aug 24 19:35:56 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r784476b7... 10/ (11 files in 4 dirs): remove python-2.4.* for merging Aug 24 19:36:06 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r0a0b4dd6... 10/ (23 files in 8 dirs): fix conflicts Aug 24 19:36:10 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r717b9154... 10/ (9 files in 5 dirs): fix remaining conflicts Aug 24 19:36:19 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf9eb6608... 10/ (29 files in 6 dirs): gstreamer: remove gstreamer-0.8, fix package splitting by introducing a single provider for all gstreamer plugins Aug 24 19:36:22 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r63698e6b... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): python: fixup python packages after merge Aug 24 19:36:28 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb57f656c... 10/ (17 files in 7 dirs): change CVSDATE occurences to SRCDATE Aug 24 19:36:33 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r941cf417... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-tuxtxt-32bpp/32bpp.diff): tuxbox-tuxtxt-32bpp: update patch Aug 24 19:36:39 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r771dee4f... 10/ (7 files in 6 dirs): opendreambox: add light-weight boot init scripts Aug 24 19:36:44 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1903d389... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-common.bb): tuxbox-common: remove tuxbox-hdd script, it's part of the unified boot initscript now Aug 24 19:37:00 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r455991c5... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): dreambox-dccamd,dreambox-dvb-modules: remove initscripts Aug 24 19:37:09 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb9d3ec5c... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): dreambox-image: move to images/, remove modutils-initscripts and use initscripts-opendreambox Aug 24 19:37:19 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r437168c8... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): opendreambox: move to 1.4 Aug 24 19:37:36 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rf760edc6... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-bootlogo.bb): dreambox-bootlogo: add dm600pvr support Aug 24 19:37:43 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r269f55e8... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvb-modules.bb): dreambox-dvb-modules: add dm600pvr support Aug 24 19:37:48 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rc2d5f19a... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-dvbincludes.bb): dreambox-dvbincludes: add dm600pvr support Aug 24 19:37:56 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r0b773ed6... 10/ (1 packages/images/dreambox-image.bb): dreambox-image: add dm600pvr support Aug 24 19:38:07 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r2aa87566... 10/ (1 packages/dreambox/dreambox-secondstage.bb): dreambox-secondstage: add dm600pvr support Aug 24 19:38:09 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r1bcf0697... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-libtuxtxt.bb): tuxbox-libtuxtxt: support for dm600pvr Aug 24 19:38:14 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rb320169f... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-plugins.bb): tuxbox-plugins: add support for dm600pvr Aug 24 19:38:21 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r02070ec4... 10/ (1 packages/tuxbox/tuxbox-libtuxbox.bb): tuxbox-libtuxbox: replace CVSDATE with SRCDATE Aug 24 19:39:03 heh Aug 24 19:39:12 and I thought it would be one or two commit Aug 24 19:39:23 s Aug 24 19:39:47 he, no. It's mainly a long awaited merge which didn't worked with the old monotone because of a bug there Aug 24 19:41:20 he tmbinc Aug 24 19:41:51 ~lart 30 page 'reviews' Aug 24 19:41:51 * ibot installs PocketPC on 30 page 'reviews''s PDA Aug 24 19:42:01 one paragraph != one page Aug 24 19:47:19 stupid question ... Aug 24 19:47:38 tmbinc how did you sovle the startuptime now? Aug 24 19:47:41 There is a dfault config for the omap5912osk in the kernelsource Aug 24 19:47:48 what is the vodo to use it? Aug 24 19:48:02 copy it to .config ? Aug 24 19:48:31 anyone knows what's wrong with this statement: char *argv[] = { { "SDLApp" } }; ? Aug 24 19:48:59 I thought there was a smarter way :) Aug 24 19:49:20 woglinde: having one script which does it all, in a much simpler way than the originals Aug 24 19:49:24 hardcoded to our machines Aug 24 19:49:27 but it really helps Aug 24 19:49:40 tmbinc hm Aug 24 19:51:46 pgfeller: one set of braces Aug 24 19:52:28 pH5: this is out of the libsdl sources - was this IO with earlier compilers? Aug 24 19:54:01 pgfeller: I guess so. gcc4 is a lot stricter than older versions. Aug 24 19:55:03 ph5: thanks ... so it probably needs some patching. Aug 24 19:57:46 pgfeller: which libsdl version is this? I think libsdl-x11_1.2.9 compiles with gcc4. Aug 24 20:00:45 how is monotone 0.29? Aug 24 20:02:11 chouimat|away: 40% slower as 0.30 :) Aug 24 20:02:46 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * r67f32569... 10/ (11 files in 11 dirs): misc: add dm600pvr support Aug 24 20:03:08 bigd0g, what machine and distro file are you using? Aug 24 20:03:14 koen it works with oe server? Aug 24 20:06:17 ph5: I'm woring on a .bb for libsdl-qpe 1.2.11 Aug 24 20:08:54 anyone knows how to scroll in an qemu window when the kernel panics? Aug 24 20:09:32 woglinde: you could abuse serial console Aug 24 20:11:25 chouimat|away: yes Aug 24 20:11:47 because I cant see why my initrd fails Aug 24 20:12:01 koen thanks :) Aug 24 20:13:48 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r4013d0d7... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): dhcdbd: add patch to make it work it the new dbus api Aug 24 20:13:53 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rb64396ce... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): networkmanager: fix depends and add patch for new dbus api Aug 24 20:14:15 pH5: thanks to your gnomevfs patch I could patch networkmanager and dhcdbd :) Aug 24 20:22:22 behold the power of imitation! i wonder whom I copied there.. Aug 24 20:22:57 don't innovate, imitate! Aug 24 20:23:13 hehe Aug 24 20:23:18 but please don't put that on the angstrom front page Aug 24 20:23:26 qemu is nice Aug 24 20:23:39 pH5: if I do, you can always remove it :) Aug 24 20:24:06 koen how can I build gdb so that I can debug arm files on my i386 woth oe? Aug 24 20:24:22 ehm Aug 24 20:24:29 my guess would be gdb-cross Aug 24 20:24:37 or gdbserver inside qemu Aug 24 20:25:02 aeh yes but the gdb on the host needs to know about arm Aug 24 20:25:52 woglinde: connect a serial to it Aug 24 20:25:58 woglinde: network console Aug 24 20:26:56 hm I can use minicom? Aug 24 20:27:20 woglinde: I don't have a qemu installed, I would assume you can use minicom Aug 24 20:29:18 (as minicom can read pipes,unix domain sockets)... Aug 24 20:30:02 ah Aug 24 20:30:04 no Aug 24 20:30:09 monitordevice null Aug 24 20:30:16 thats what I need Aug 24 20:30:51 Crofton: no worries. i've been compiling successfully for a little while now. zecke reminded me to modify the arm9 tune file Aug 24 20:32:05 ah Aug 24 20:32:08 why the heck Aug 24 20:32:16 the kernel dont load the initramfs Aug 24 20:32:41 well, I'll let you know when I have the more recent kernel going Aug 24 20:32:44 Crofton: yeah. hopefully i get all the way through the compile for the first time Aug 24 20:32:57 Crofton: that would be great :) Aug 24 20:34:28 yes :) Aug 24 20:38:17 much of this depends on me remembering stuff I have forgotten Aug 24 20:42:44 hm Aug 24 20:42:52 kernel dont load the initramfs per default Aug 24 21:07:09 nite Aug 24 21:54:06 yay! the linux-omap1 compile failed near the end Aug 24 21:54:20 ugh. i'll have to play with it more tomorrow. Aug 24 21:54:29 thanks again for the help, guys Aug 24 21:54:39 * bigd0g wanders off: time for Zzz Aug 24 22:16:17 can BitBake handle non-*nix targets? Aug 24 22:22:27 Luke-Jr: In theory, yes. You'd probably have a lot of setup to do though Aug 24 22:32:45 hmm Aug 24 22:36:43 Luke-Jr: bitbake has no issue with it, its OE's metadata which is the problem ;-) Aug 24 22:49:06 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * ra4443c27... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17.bb): linux-oz-2.6.17: Add fix to make spectrum_cs work. Upgrade to ASoC 0.11pre12 + some extra fixes which seemingly fixes the poodle sound bugs (static and speaker control issues) Aug 24 23:09:02 ~hail RP, master of poodle Aug 24 23:09:05 * ibot bows down to RP, master of poodle and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Aug 24 23:09:54 nite all Aug 24 23:11:16 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * rac2124fc... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.17+git.bb): linux-oz-2.6.17+git: Add spectrum cs fix, update to latest ASoC, fix nasty NAND corruption bug, update tosa/collie/hx2750 patches, updates to latest git **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Aug 25 02:59:56 2006