**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 11 02:59:57 2006 Sep 11 03:24:29 morning .. ~! :) Sep 11 04:29:03 * v8jlene is back Sep 11 06:50:39 good morning all Sep 11 06:51:31 morning koen Sep 11 06:52:22 morning Sep 11 07:12:02 hi Sep 11 07:12:18 sorry as i did ask this once before , but i did not managed it ,... Sep 11 07:12:29 hey Sep 11 07:12:35 how can i inject a version string dependant on which date the build was performed ? Sep 11 07:15:25 PV = 1.0+${DATE} and I hope this matches our versioning policy Sep 11 07:16:24 zecke , cool but can i inject this inside the code of my application somehow ,, so that also inside my code this date is known ? Sep 11 07:18:18 rob_w: well you do do CPPFLAGS_append = " -DROB_DATE=${DATE} " Sep 11 07:18:42 rob_w: and then you could do std::string version = ROB_DATE; Sep 11 07:19:27 ahh ,, does this also apply on C only ? like CFLAGS etc Sep 11 07:20:00 rob_w: bah, who is writing C code anyway? Sep 11 07:20:14 rob_w: actually CPPFLAGS 'should' apply to both c and c++ Sep 11 07:20:33 treat that should skeptical Sep 11 07:20:40 i see Sep 11 07:20:48 i give that a go Sep 11 07:33:59 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r2cafd704... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): openntpd: Sanitize, and drop old version Sep 11 07:34:04 03nail 07org.oe.dev * ra5fd29ad... 10/ (1 packages/watchdog/watchdog_5.2.bb): watchdog: Sanitize Sep 11 07:34:09 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r4775f6d4... 10/ (1 packages/wakelan/wakelan_1.1.bb): wakelan: Sanitize Sep 11 07:35:29 "Just rm -r usr/lib/ipkg" Sep 11 07:35:36 ~lart pavel machek Sep 11 07:35:37 * ibot shoots pavel machek in the head Sep 11 07:37:00 morning akk Sep 11 07:37:13 koen: What did he do? Sep 11 07:37:38 morning Sep 11 07:37:39 top entry in http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/ Sep 11 07:37:45 hey hrw|work & RP Sep 11 07:37:51 hi hrw|work Sep 11 07:38:43 koen: Ah, reinventing the wheel :-/ Sep 11 07:39:02 and removing the axis as well Sep 11 07:39:28 I don't think ipkg likes it when you remove its status file and alternative database Sep 11 07:40:33 koen: Its one way to free up space though I guess :) Sep 11 07:42:03 I suspect it's a lot easier to install bootstrap-image and install X from there Sep 11 07:42:17 morning all Sep 11 07:42:25 hi Dirk Sep 11 07:42:42 hey Richard Sep 11 07:43:30 hey Dirk Sep 11 07:44:14 zecke showed some way to shrink binaries with -funit-at-a-time yesterday Sep 11 07:44:38 hey koen Sep 11 07:47:04 hi dirk Sep 11 07:47:43 koen: btw, xchat 2.6.1.bb misses a "=" after SECTION ;) Sep 11 07:47:49 hey Marcin Sep 11 07:48:46 NAiL: talk to psokolovsky, he touched it last Sep 11 07:49:58 * NAiL fixes Sep 11 07:50:06 trivial, to say the least :P Sep 11 07:50:18 Hehe... I've been resisting the urge to fix that all day ;) Sep 11 07:50:20 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r78bcf1f7... 10/ (1 packages/xchat/xchat_2.6.1.bb): xchat: Fix missing '=' after SECTION Sep 11 07:51:09 http://www.infodrom.org/~joey/log/?200609102259 ;DDD Sep 11 07:53:05 hahah Sep 11 07:55:43 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r34210cbb... 10/ (1 packages/xchat/xchat_2.6.0.bb): xchat 2.6.0: Add SECTION. Sep 11 07:56:53 morning Sep 11 07:57:18 hey XorA Sep 11 07:57:45 hi XorA Sep 11 08:02:08 Packaged contents of sl into /data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/angstrom/deploy/ipk/sl_3.03-r0_armv5te.ipk Sep 11 08:02:19 after 3 years, I have finally packaged it for OE :) Sep 11 08:03:29 NAiL: You left the sanatize.py errors and warning in the wakelan bb (they are comments, but don't really need to be in the bb) Sep 11 08:03:42 heh Sep 11 08:04:02 koen: was is sl? Sep 11 08:04:35 hrw|work: 'apt-get install sl ; sl' Sep 11 08:04:42 v8jlene: thanks ;) Sep 11 08:04:48 it teaches you not to misspell 'ls' :) Sep 11 08:05:11 ;) Sep 11 08:06:15 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r8584e3f2... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): openntpd: Upstream upgrade to 3.9p1 Sep 11 08:06:20 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rccc0894b... 10/ (1 packages/wakelan/wakelan_1.1.bb): wakelan: Remove sanitize-comments Sep 11 08:07:32 do13_: did you played with CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND? maybe it will replace usbctl Sep 11 08:08:51 zecke, works , thanks ! Sep 11 08:10:34 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rd2e1959c... 10/ (1 packages/sl packages/sl/sl_3.03.bb): sl: add 3.03 Sep 11 08:10:44 hrw|work: Afaik, this puts devices into suspend state but doesn't disable the power Sep 11 08:10:52 rob_w: hehe Sep 11 08:11:19 rob_w: now do me a favor and stop writing apps in this language called 'C' Sep 11 08:12:07 koen: the important bit with unit-at-a-time is to have a huge unit Sep 11 08:12:11 i actually plan to get my c++ skills updated .. as it seems trolltech catches up in terms of markets Sep 11 08:12:13 koen: e.g. the complete application Sep 11 08:12:40 rob_w: hehe, nice answer Sep 11 08:12:48 rob_w: may I ask what you are coding? Sep 11 08:13:09 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r161c11a8... 10/ (1 conf/machine/titan.conf): Sep 11 08:13:09 machine titan: Add machine file for the sh4 based TITAN boards (Nimble NP51R Sep 11 08:13:09 and jjplus LinkGear Series 100). Sep 11 08:13:15 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rc3ccb88c... 10/ (1 conf/machine/wrap.conf): Sep 11 08:13:15 machine wrap: Add machine file for the geode(i486) based WRAP boards from PC Sep 11 08:13:15 engines. Sep 11 08:13:33 ~curse konqueror Sep 11 08:13:37 am doing a visualisation and controlling app for big bio-gas engines , where the visuals are gtk and my deamon is c Sep 11 08:13:41 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, konqueror ! Sep 11 08:13:49 man I'm tired... Sep 11 08:13:52 Heh, zsh already corrects sl to ls for me ;) Sep 11 08:14:00 rob_w: interesting Sep 11 08:14:32 oh, I will fall asleep immediately... Sep 11 08:14:42 that it is , but yet we might need to close the gui also , so then i will have to learn c++ for probiatory qt Sep 11 08:14:51 sleep well , dude Sep 11 08:15:22 rob_w: oh no, I must stay awake in the office :} Sep 11 08:15:33 rob_w: I shouldn't have hacked until 5 a.m :} Sep 11 08:16:00 if you where in japan , they do allow naps Sep 11 08:16:21 i could lock the door and leave the key in the lock... Sep 11 08:17:11 zecke: Once you get to 5.00am you might as well have keept on going ;) Sep 11 08:17:36 hrw|work: can you give it a try? this put the device into suspend state. in this state the device should consume less than 500 uA Sep 11 08:17:59 v8jlene: at 5.a.m private stuff has ended at 9:30 work began Sep 11 08:18:31 do13_: can test it a bit during evening - but first have to find out/know how to check does device is suspended Sep 11 08:18:36 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r5fc1e00b... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): vsftpd: Upstream upgrade to 2.0.5. Remove old versions Sep 11 08:18:42 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r3e1adbc3... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): vsftpd: clean up proper Sep 11 08:22:38 oh cyril has found sone missing source packages Sep 11 08:22:44 http://ewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/tinderbox/showlog.pl?machine_id=113&logfile=20060910170215.log&format=raw Sep 11 08:26:24 http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/09/10/four_cores_on_the_rampage/ - Intel Core Quad Sep 11 08:26:53 good morning Sep 11 08:27:38 zecke: zip & unzip have new versions, old versions moved. I'll add the new versions. Sep 11 08:27:39 hrw|work: you know that intel licensed the multiple core IP from IBM/POWER? Sep 11 08:27:49 v8jlene: beware Sep 11 08:28:11 v8jlene: I have fallen victim of this thinking in the past Sep 11 08:28:41 v8jlene: if no security issue lead to the release of the new version it is best to find the old source Sep 11 08:28:56 v8jlene: upload it somewhere, then consider upgrading Sep 11 08:29:17 v8jlene: e.g. I remember a issue where 'zip' didn't use the crosscompiler to compile Sep 11 08:29:20 zecke: Yeah, I always look at the changelogs, test it and sometimes diff it... Sep 11 08:29:28 :) Sep 11 08:29:44 zecke: Anyway, I lied... looks like it's actually ok. Sep 11 08:30:49 False alarm, must have been a temp failure of the site. All ok. Sep 11 08:31:09 anyone knows a good lab creating "mini-me's"? Sep 11 08:32:26 I'm glad cyril is doing sanitizing/bittest now Sep 11 08:34:10 mtn: 1,2 M | 861,9 k | 320/3.741 | 81/926 Sep 11 08:38:12 * v8jlene is away Sep 11 08:40:05 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r3f66b334... 10/ (1 packages/libol/libol_0.3.18.bb): libol: Upstream upgrade to 0.3.18 Sep 11 08:40:11 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r249c8701... 10/ (1 packages/syslog-ng/syslog-ng_1.6.11.bb): syslog-ng: Upstream upgrade to 1.6.11 Sep 11 08:48:55 zecke: do you know what to do when konq hang after RMB click? Sep 11 08:52:04 hrw|work: disable plugins Sep 11 08:53:45 hi, folks. what kind of machins is "tosa" ? Sep 11 08:53:51 ~tosa Sep 11 08:53:57 tosa is probably the Sharp SL-6000 PDA, or a dog (see http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/tosa.htm) Sep 11 08:54:19 ~poodle Sep 11 08:54:20 somebody said poodle was sl-5600/b500, or a dog Sep 11 08:55:22 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rff6f66dc... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc.inc): uclibc.inc: allow EABI uclibc builds Sep 11 08:56:44 03nail 07org.oe.dev * re483dba7... 10/ (1 packages/eventlog packages/eventlog/eventlog_0.2.5.bb): eventlog: Add package eventlog Sep 11 08:57:12 zecke: which plugins? netscape like plugins? Sep 11 08:57:29 hmm, is there any hardware feature list of Sharp SL-6000 PDA . Sep 11 08:57:50 leoncamel: tosa = pxa255/400, 64M ram, 64M flash, usb host, usb wifi Sep 11 08:58:32 is there any Sharp PDA which using PXA 27x ? Sep 11 08:58:37 leoncamel: sd slot, cf slot, sleeve slot (second cf + battery), internal battery (1800mAh iirc), small keyboard Sep 11 08:58:44 leoncamel: cxx00 ones Sep 11 08:59:00 hrw|work: kdeaddon plugins Sep 11 08:59:03 hrw|work, OK. thanks. Sep 11 08:59:10 zecke: but how? Sep 11 08:59:19 ~hail alt-f9 combo Sep 11 08:59:20 hrw|work, do you mean "c7x0" ? Sep 11 08:59:21 * ibot bows down to alt-f9 combo and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Sep 11 08:59:35 hmm Sep 11 08:59:38 hrw|work: if you press RMB it will query service types (KTrader using ksycoca) and it will load plugins like (KUICK Copy To, Move To) Sep 11 08:59:44 Is there a template .bb anywhere? Sep 11 08:59:57 hrw|work: you can a) run kbuildsycoca to regenerate the cache and see if something changes Sep 11 09:00:06 hrw|work: or you could remove the kdeaddons package :} Sep 11 09:00:31 BTW: rooms are 100% secured for friday, saturday and sunday Sep 11 09:00:45 we have a beamer, net, whiteboards Sep 11 09:01:32 zecke: cool Sep 11 09:01:45 zecke: nice work :) Sep 11 09:01:50 ~lart kdeaddons Sep 11 09:01:51 * ibot blames kdeaddons for all the evil in the world Sep 11 09:02:13 zecke: We have a final location then? Sep 11 09:02:16 zecke: so the 'final' place is known as well? Sep 11 09:02:20 what dose this mean ? "GUI_MACHINE_CLASS = "bigscreen"" ? Sep 11 09:02:37 bigscreen = VGA screen ? Sep 11 09:02:44 leoncamel: or higher Sep 11 09:03:03 leoncamel: smallscreen = hrw|work, what dose it exactly do ? Sep 11 09:03:16 zecke: kbuildsycoca does not help ;( Sep 11 09:03:26 leoncamel: another selector for apps in gpe images Sep 11 09:03:48 hrw|work, I mean what extra parameters did it append ? Sep 11 09:04:26 hrw|work, I am not clear. which "selector" ? Sep 11 09:05:25 RP: koen : Yes. Sadly the final place is next to S-Bahnhof Attila-Strasse Sep 11 09:06:17 http://www.stadtplandienst.de/fastlink.asp?key=f54f6725dfba16453da0f4fa1d407e37 Sep 11 09:06:27 (only valid for the next 48 hours) Sep 11 09:06:48 leoncamel: if GUI_MACHINE_CLASS == bigscreen then install 1 2 3 4 5;elseif smallscreen then install 8 4 7 Sep 11 09:07:54 http://www.bmco-forum.org/index.php?id=28 Sep 11 09:07:59 for exact coordinates Sep 11 09:12:01 zecke: thanks Sep 11 09:16:12 hrw|work, OK. I got it . Sep 11 09:32:41 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rf381f851... 10/ (1 packages/uclibc/uclibc_svn.bb): uclibc_svn: remove patches that have been applied upstream Sep 11 09:34:49 03nail 07org.oe.dev * rbd7c783b... 10/ (1 packages/libdvb/libdvb_0.5.5.1.bb): libdvb: Sanitize Sep 11 09:35:01 03nail 07org.oe.dev * ra70eb00a... 10/ (1 packages/bwmon/bwmon_1.3.bb): bwmon: Update licence Sep 11 09:49:44 morning all Sep 11 09:50:04 hi Liam Sep 11 09:50:45 hrw|work: I'm cleaning up new touch patch today, will send later. Sep 11 09:52:12 hey lrg Sep 11 09:53:15 lrg: thx Sep 11 09:56:06 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r92e3493a... 10/ (1 packages/zd1211/zd1211_r83.bb): zd1211: Add HOMEPAGE, sanitize Sep 11 09:58:50 hey Liam Sep 11 10:06:48 ~lart pavel machek Sep 11 10:06:48 * ibot eats pavel machek's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti Sep 11 10:07:33 any 'file' or ELF expert around? Sep 11 10:07:39 hi Liam Sep 11 10:08:02 lrg: Did you have any thoughts on that params_format issue? Could you reproduce with madplay? Sep 11 10:09:29 hrw|work: his patches? Sep 11 10:09:40 do13_: his LJ posts Sep 11 10:09:41 RP: unfortunately not. I'm start a poodle build tomorrow. This should give me your setup and I'll see what happens. Btw, fixed mplayer alsa pause (although mplayer alsa pm still broken) Sep 11 10:09:44 http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/27576.html Sep 11 10:10:02 RP: will send new patch today Sep 11 10:10:25 do13_: his ways to get something working (how to get X working on collie with usage of hammer and few other hardcore tools but without using brain) Sep 11 10:10:27 lrg: Was 32 bit support something recently added to ASoC? Sep 11 10:10:52 RP: yes Sep 11 10:11:11 RP: although, I have the only hw that it works on Sep 11 10:11:18 lrg: So its possible, the OSS emulation is broken with respect to it? Sep 11 10:11:43 lrg: Can spitz support 32 bit sound? Sep 11 10:12:06 hrw|work: cool we free a lot of space in flash:) Sep 11 10:12:10 RP: spitz can only support 16 bit due to pxa2xx i2s limitation Sep 11 10:12:47 RP: the only way to get > 16 bits on pxa2xx is to use the ssp ports for audio Sep 11 10:13:12 lrg: It seems we're advertising 32 bit capability to userspace in the resulting bitmasks :-( Sep 11 10:13:47 lrg: That suggests the capabilities aren't being restricted by the transport capabilities properly :-/ Sep 11 10:14:13 s/transport/dai/ ? Sep 11 10:14:16 RP: I've fixed an issue here wrt this. The DMA mask was overiding the codec/DAI mask. Sep 11 10:14:29 RP: now they are all ANDED Sep 11 10:14:42 RP: so we only get the common bits. Sep 11 10:14:48 lrg: ah, something like that might do it Sep 11 10:14:55 * lrg has his fingers crossed Sep 11 10:15:37 lrg: I know ASoC thought it was capable of 32 bit. I just wasn't sure if that was the case and if not, where the limiting factor was :) Sep 11 10:19:27 lrg: morning Sep 11 10:21:52 lrg: could you (or mikearthur) write a small story on your OE experiences from a IHV point of view? Sep 11 10:22:22 lrg: something we can evaluate at OEDEM Sep 11 10:27:42 koen: mike has finished now, so it looks like I'll have to write something. Sep 11 10:35:10 ;( Sep 11 10:35:18 ~meetings Sep 11 10:35:34 meetings must be destroyed Sep 11 10:35:47 bb in 1.5-2h Sep 11 10:36:47 where is pb_? Sep 11 10:41:12 ~lart uclibc Sep 11 10:41:13 * ibot blames uclibc for all the evil in the world Sep 11 10:41:45 zecke: i wondered about that too Sep 11 10:42:35 florian_kc: he is missing for a couple of weeks :( Sep 11 11:12:50 03rpurdie * r603 10bitbake/lib/bb/cache.py: cache.py: The cache doesn't really need to know about any progress callback - adjust logging accordingly Sep 11 11:13:55 zecke: Nils got a mail from pb_ almost three weeks ago, that's the last i heared. Sep 11 11:18:38 03rpurdie * r604 10bitbake/ (bin/bitbake lib/bb/shell.py): Sep 11 11:18:38 bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: Sep 11 11:18:38 bitbake/bin/bitbake: Sep 11 11:18:38 Split collect_bbfiles into collect_bbfiles and parse_bbfiles Sep 11 11:18:38 Allow -b option to accept an expression which uniquely identifies a .bb file instead of requiring a full path Sep 11 11:18:41 Disable BBFILES support within .bb files (it was already non-functional) Sep 11 11:24:15 RP: http://rafb.net/paste/results/PLbOpr25.html Sep 11 11:27:28 RP: stupid question, is bittest broken now? Sep 11 11:27:56 zecke: Did it use collect_bbfiles? Sep 11 11:28:45 koen: Could you try http://www.rpsys.net/openzaurus/temp/bitbake_buildfiles.patch ? Sep 11 11:29:40 RP: NOTE: package uclibc-0.9.28+svn20060911: started Sep 11 11:29:50 koen: thanks :) Sep 11 11:31:10 03rpurdie * r605 10bitbake/bin/bitbake: bin/bitbake: parse.handle must have an absolute path Sep 11 11:49:26 RP: IIRC it uses collect_bbfiles Sep 11 11:50:43 RP: I better look at the commit first Sep 11 11:53:37 RP: okay, your patch looks reasonable and I shouldn't use bin/bitbake anyway Sep 11 11:54:08 RP: *sorry*, I fear I sound like bitching even If I'm 100% daccord with your changes and happy you place your energy there :) Sep 11 11:54:14 zecke: You can convert by making the change I made to the shell Sep 11 11:54:31 zecke: Don't worry, I know what its like when people break things :) Sep 11 11:54:57 * zecke sabotages RPs work Sep 11 11:55:10 ;) Sep 11 11:55:14 :) Sep 11 11:56:13 zecke: I just didn't want to duplicate the BBFILES logic for my extension to the -b command Sep 11 11:56:30 reasonable :) Sep 11 11:56:42 I think I have a copy of collect_bbfiles already Sep 11 11:57:02 zecke: What do you think about converting the dep graph code to use taskData? Sep 11 11:58:08 RP: Have you comitted stuff like crazy? Sep 11 11:58:25 RP: I have little clue about the graph code Sep 11 11:58:30 zecke: define crazy? :) Sep 11 11:58:42 RP: +20 revs Sep 11 11:58:58 zecke: In that case, yes :) Sep 11 11:59:19 Just a few little tweaks I'd been thinking about for a while ;-) Sep 11 12:00:29 zecke: When you wrote the graph code, you forked the providers code - can you remember why? Sep 11 12:00:35 RP: http://svn.berlios.de/viewcvs/bitbake/trunk/bitbake_qa/lib/bittest/fileparser.py?rev=315&view=markup <- does it make sense to have a unified collect_bbfiles Sep 11 12:00:46 RP: and what would we win by changing the graph code? Sep 11 12:01:22 zecke: The dep graphs would be guaranteed to match the dependencies as taskdata sees them ;-) Sep 11 12:02:08 zecke: Does bittest want to find any .bb file or take into account BBMASK and BBFILES? Sep 11 12:02:19 BBFILES and BBMAK Sep 11 12:02:35 zecke: I'd say a common funciton then Sep 11 12:02:52 zecke: Maybe in the parser __init_.py rather than bin/bitbake :) Sep 11 12:03:00 yes :) Sep 11 12:03:10 RP: okay the taskData argument is quite strong :) Sep 11 12:04:05 does trunk still pass the unit tests? Sep 11 12:04:39 koen: the things RP has touched are not covered by tests so far Sep 11 12:05:18 RP: we have an ancient bug report about the graph code that we walkt it twice Sep 11 12:05:18 zecke: and therefore bug free? :) Sep 11 12:05:41 zecke: taskdata is probably worse :-/ Sep 11 12:05:45 zecke: taskdata needs optimising Sep 11 12:05:56 but taskdata is the future :) Sep 11 12:06:06 Its not that slow and can only get faster :) Sep 11 12:06:11 RP: passing tests does not show you are free of bugs Sep 11 12:06:18 RP: well, we can at least close the old bug Sep 11 12:06:58 zecke: I know, regression free is perhaps a better way of putting it ;-) Sep 11 12:07:41 RP: I have to look at taskData, but if you say it is the future :) Sep 11 12:07:42 zecke: We could write a test of the taskdata code if we convert the depgraph code - check it always generates the same depgraph for a given set of metadata :) Sep 11 12:08:39 RP: I have a nice dark, quite room here. I will lock you there and exchange testing against food ;) Sep 11 12:09:03 zecke: hehe :) Sep 11 12:11:35 okay, I will hack on my insanity.bbclass now Sep 11 12:11:38 later :) Sep 11 12:11:57 zecke: cya Sep 11 12:12:03 * RP -> food Sep 11 12:16:34 hmmm Sep 11 12:16:54 adding uclibc support for new machines and distros is a bit complicated Sep 11 12:17:31 especially since someone put theirs in 'arm' Sep 11 12:17:36 lol berkeley db 4.4 doesn't eat data when crashing? Sep 11 12:17:59 what a stunning new feature for DB Sep 11 12:18:24 suihkulokki: it is quite radical and I would have assumed a name change Sep 11 12:18:36 suihkulokki: e.g we have used Berkeley DB as shred replacement Sep 11 12:27:35 morning Sep 11 12:27:46 hey chouimat Sep 11 12:29:57 Crofton|home: still watching tivo? Sep 11 12:32:14 heh Sep 11 12:32:18 not atm :) Sep 11 12:32:43 I should extract some stuff to watch though Sep 11 13:03:46 lrg: static is gone :) Sep 11 13:07:04 RP: :) Sep 11 13:07:37 lrg: I have another less serious bug - audio doesn't resume if you suspend/resume :-/ Sep 11 13:07:59 RP: is this with mplayer ? Sep 11 13:08:06 lrg: madplay Sep 11 13:08:12 (so oss) Sep 11 13:09:31 RP: madplay worked with suspend resume ok yesterday. I think there is some issue with the pxa2xx i2s port. It may need a magic udelay() on resume. Sep 11 13:10:17 lrg: ok, I'll try and experiment with that at some point Sep 11 13:11:13 RP: I'll see if I can repro as well Sep 11 13:20:56 re Sep 11 13:21:22 lrg: did you get poodle? Sep 11 13:22:20 hrw|work: yes thanks. it arrived on friday afternoon. Sep 11 13:22:39 hrw|work: I still have to create a build for it. Sep 11 13:22:53 hrw|work: probably do that tomorrow Sep 11 13:23:26 lrg: great Sep 11 13:23:36 hrw|work: could you update http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/ProjectDevices ? Sep 11 13:23:38 lrg: can you add info to OE Project Devices page? Sep 11 13:23:51 koen: ;) Sep 11 13:24:19 * hrw|work starts to like Kompose Sep 11 13:24:34 hi koen hrw|work Sep 11 13:25:21 very good Sep 11 13:25:36 lrg: Ah, you have a poodle - great :) Sep 11 13:25:57 * chouimat is having dream about the media mvp and the GESBC-9315 ... Sep 11 13:26:02 hrw|work: i'm just building oz with updated dbus for tosa... i gess you could test the image, right? Sep 11 13:26:02 * RP looks forward to finding the source of the static :) Sep 11 13:26:07 "In the beKinninK there was a freaK Keyboard malfunKtion from eKsKessive typinK of the word (insert here a half-KirKle, opened to the riKht)ool resultinK in damaKe to the letter (insert here a half-KirKle, opened to the riKht). On the third day it was proKlaimed henKeforth the letter 'K' would be used instead" Sep 11 13:27:01 florian_kc: I can in the evening Sep 11 13:27:07 koen huh? Sep 11 13:27:29 chouimat: from http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/KDE Sep 11 13:27:43 deliberately misspelling words annoys me Sep 11 13:28:11 "KDE is the swiss army Knife of desKtops: it has more features than anybody aKtually Kneeds and it's shiny." :D Sep 11 13:28:49 koen me too ... and some people even in gnome lack imagination when they name their apps ;) Sep 11 13:29:01 hrw|work, koen: wiki updated Sep 11 13:29:03 yeah Sep 11 13:29:36 the current gnome "let's think of a silly word" is mildly annoying as well Sep 11 13:29:45 but ubuntu fixes that in their menus Sep 11 13:30:17 LOL "In a cruel twist of fate, two Nigerian widows are genuinely fighting it out for their husband's (yes, the same husband) $55M fortune. The BBC has the full scoop. Who wants to bet we're abot to see a whole lot of 419's from 'The Wife of the Late Timothy Olufemi Akanni?'" Sep 11 13:30:26 hrw|work: ok, great Sep 11 13:30:27 lrg: you have 2nd poodle Sep 11 13:30:39 lrg: I'll edit it a bit and post donor Sep 11 13:30:50 hrw|work: thanks Sep 11 13:31:56 koen I hate ubuntu ... Sep 11 13:34:39 lrg: sent mail Sep 11 13:46:40 RP: http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/11/please-do-not-follow-pavel-machek-way/ Sep 11 13:48:08 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Sep 11 13:50:04 heh Sep 11 13:51:21 koen: ? Sep 11 13:51:33 http://www.hrw.one.pl/2006/09/11/please-do-not-follow-pavel-machek-way/ Sep 11 13:51:59 I also didn't comment on his LJ, thinking "some people don't want to learn" Sep 11 13:52:35 I comment on his LJ from time to time Sep 11 13:52:55 koen: but this post has too many infos to be lost somewhere Sep 11 13:53:14 I gave up after his "I installed debian for bash and gpsdrive" nonsense Sep 11 13:54:06 where is this collie-2.6? Sep 11 13:54:09 hrw|work: you in poland? Sep 11 13:54:50 mithro: yes Sep 11 13:55:07 chouimat: OpenZaurus 3.5.4.2-rc2 provide bootstrap image Sep 11 13:55:18 oo.. how long has apt-get had this functionality? "apt-get install --reinstall all-installed-packages" Sep 11 13:55:24 hrw|work: cool ... Sep 11 13:55:59 mithro: all-installed-packages == `cat lista-pakietow.text` Sep 11 13:56:42 o :P Sep 11 13:56:51 mithro: it can be done in one line too Sep 11 14:00:02 mithro: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg -l|grep '^ii' | awk -F" " '{print $2}'` - but this will fail as some packages need to be configured before rest Sep 11 14:00:22 mithro: so lista-pakietow.text is better Sep 11 14:13:21 hrw|work: Its a nice sane reply :) Sep 11 14:16:32 RP: random question out of my mind: is there a way to time code execution down to cpu cycle with oprofile, reliably? Sep 11 14:18:15 psokolovsky: oprofile is a statisitical profiler - it doesn't log specific events. If you want specific events loot at lttng Sep 11 14:18:50 psokolovsky: oprofile will just tell you what percentage of CPU time was spent in a given function Sep 11 14:19:10 RP: well, I mean, pass it a (short) code buffer to execute, it disables the interrupts and clocks it Sep 11 14:19:27 psokolovsky: Nothing does that Sep 11 14:20:03 psokolovsky: I'm not even sure why you'd want to do that Sep 11 14:20:05 RP: and would it be hard to do that? (I mean, is there existing interface which could be used for that?) Sep 11 14:20:23 psokolovsky: Yes, it would be hard, no existing interface Sep 11 14:20:41 RP: heh, just random thought on doing automated, genetic algorithm, peephoel optmization for ARM ;-)) Sep 11 14:20:45 ok Sep 11 14:20:52 psokolovsky: You'd be better off writing an instuction analyser for the instruction set Sep 11 14:21:17 later Sep 11 14:21:39 RP: yes, that would be part of that. but i think fo full automation and cpu independence. well, just thoughts ;-) Sep 11 14:22:22 RP: thx Sep 11 14:52:49 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r6fcc6d1d... 10/ (1 packages/nylon/simple-firewall.bb): simple-firewall: fix CVSDATE/SVNDATE confusion. Sep 11 14:52:51 03MartinDietze 07org.oe.dev * r4ca57ebd... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Sep 11 14:52:51 libpcre: fixes resulting from renaming pcre->libpcre Sep 11 14:52:51 * the recipes in libpcre now contain the code from the removed pcre packages (sorry for the mess) Sep 11 14:52:51 * nylon-feed now DEPENDs on libpcre instead of pcre Sep 11 14:58:18 * mrz80 is back (gone 01:10:11) Sep 11 15:28:00 I have a question about the bb file hierarchy. I want to add a new machine to "org.openembedded.dev/packages/base-files/base-files", must I put that machine description under that dir? Or, can I put the bb file in my local tree and have it referenced? Sep 11 15:28:42 something like "zipitbbfiles/base-files/base-files/" Sep 11 15:29:08 T0mW: yes Sep 11 15:29:32 or, would I have to copy the entire "org.openembedded.dev/packages/base-files" tree into my private tree? Sep 11 15:30:11 rather copy Sep 11 15:30:52 Ah, and, put the BBFILES entry for my tree as the first in the list of locations to scan? Sep 11 15:31:22 best off not relying on BBFILES order. use bitbake collections to ensure yours is the priority Sep 11 15:31:25 or use BBCOLECTIONS Sep 11 15:31:28 e.g.: BBFILES = "my_path org.openhardware.dev/path" Sep 11 15:31:44 thanks, I'll look into it. Sep 11 15:32:09 the copy is needed though, correct? Sep 11 15:32:27 "base-files_3.0.14.bb" Sep 11 15:32:45 O Sep 11 15:32:48 drat Sep 11 15:33:20 I'm just trying to keep from sprinkling my system definition around inside the org.openembedded.dev tree Sep 11 15:34:22 what not just add them to dev? Sep 11 15:34:46 Crofton: I'm just afraid that I'll do something stupid like delete that tree Sep 11 15:35:06 ah Sep 11 15:35:09 Crofton: also, I would like to make my bb files available for others to use. Sep 11 15:35:31 commit them to dev? Sep 11 15:35:48 Crofton: heh, yeah, I could do that too. Sep 11 15:36:05 If you would like, you could send them to me and I can commit them Sep 11 15:36:14 If you are worried abuot the mechanics Sep 11 15:36:55 well, I'm not worried about the method of the commit, I assume it is going to be similar to cvs/svn style of commit Sep 11 15:36:59 ? Sep 11 15:37:25 I think I will need a dev account, then what software? GIT? Sep 11 15:37:30 T0mW: monotone Sep 11 15:37:36 ah, good Sep 11 15:37:48 do I need a developer account? Sep 11 15:37:55 T0mW: show us patches, we will give you r/w (or not) Sep 11 15:38:09 T0mW: to be able to commit/push: yes. to use OE: no Sep 11 15:38:41 np, thanks, It will be sometime before I finish polishing my stuff before I would show it you. I will do that. Sep 11 15:39:03 I'm still on the slippery slope of the learning curve with OW Sep 11 15:39:09 s/OW/OE Sep 11 15:40:13 * T0mW`busy goes out to beat himself up on the cinder track Sep 11 15:41:00 hmm 9h30m of burnK7 and home machine still works. 64.5°C Sep 11 15:41:19 PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND Sep 11 15:41:19 6493 hrw 25 0 96 16 8 R 99.9 0.0 526:54.72 burnK7 Sep 11 15:42:07 hrw|work: use prime95 for h/w testing Sep 11 15:42:37 CoreDump|afk: mprime is nice too - but does not force machine to such temp. Sep 11 15:42:52 there's still no easy way for one package to poke into the metadata of another, correct? Sep 11 15:43:21 actually it does, if you renice it to 0 =) Sep 11 15:43:36 hrw|work: http://handhelds.org/~florian/tosa/ Sep 11 15:43:47 florian_kc: ok. will look at home Sep 11 15:44:04 hrw|work: many thanks Sep 11 15:44:27 florian_kc: can you add md5? Sep 11 15:45:48 hrw|work: done Sep 11 15:45:51 thx Sep 11 15:46:25 burnMMX failed.. Sep 11 15:46:58 good afternoon folks Sep 11 15:47:08 hi chris144 Sep 11 15:47:13 hi hrw|work Sep 11 15:47:17 hrw|work: are you testing for a stable O7´´o/c or are you just checking your home machine? Sep 11 15:47:35 CoreDump|afk: checking Sep 11 15:48:10 CoreDump|afk: this cpu can be nicely o/c anyway Sep 11 15:48:33 my x86_64 box hates me Sep 11 15:48:56 kergoth, why? Sep 11 15:48:58 if i boot without noapic, my rtc freaks out. if i boot with it, my sound card freaks out Sep 11 15:49:14 fwfw, burn* ran fine here for hours, but tripple mprime renice'd to 0 showed problems _really_ fast Sep 11 15:49:16 if i boot without one of acpi=off or noapic, the kernel aborts early saying the timer isnt connected to the apic or somesuch Sep 11 15:49:35 someone remember how to get returncode of app in bash? Sep 11 15:50:01 $? ? Sep 11 15:50:16 yep.. Sep 11 15:50:24 ~lart me for &? Sep 11 15:50:25 * ibot hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at hrw|work for &? Sep 11 15:50:33 folks, is there any chance to get a "named" account for the wiki? I'd love to contibute to the wiki, but as "anonymous" it doesnt look right to me... Sep 11 15:50:57 chris144: there is no way to register? Sep 11 15:50:59 kergoth, my x86_64 has a no_timer_check in the kernel args Sep 11 15:51:17 pretty sure i tried that already, but i'll try it again Sep 11 15:51:45 burnMMX gave 254 - integer/memory error Sep 11 15:51:51 hrw|work: not that I know, I asked koen some time ago when the new wiki was very fresh he said he dint figure out yet how to do the login stuff etc. Sep 11 15:52:39 chris144: realname, email please Sep 11 15:52:50 "This web page allows the administrators to register a new users by hand. Note that you cannot have a user where either the e-mail address or the username match another user in the system." Sep 11 15:53:15 chris144: I suggest realname to be 'name surname' instead of nickname Sep 11 15:53:40 hrw|work: Christopher Lang, christopher.lang@chl-informatik.de Sep 11 15:54:22 chris144: "Password and further instructions have been e-mailed to the new user Christopher Lang." Sep 11 15:54:42 hrw|work: cool stuff. thanks!! Sep 11 15:54:45 :-) Sep 11 15:55:52 hmm. if burnMMX fails then it looks like memory problem. but memtest86 does not fail... will have to look more at ram then Sep 11 15:56:24 hrw|work: got the mail... Sep 11 15:58:47 ok Sep 11 16:01:00 cu Sep 11 16:10:52 Crofton: no luck, mine still freaks out :( Sep 11 16:11:00 says the 8254 timer isnt connected to the IO-APIC Sep 11 16:11:09 whatever that means, x86 is voodoo to me Sep 11 16:11:11 heh Sep 11 16:11:38 kergoth, you dont need sound anyway do you? Sep 11 16:11:46 hehe Sep 11 16:11:51 you could buy a cheap usb soundcard :) Sep 11 16:12:09 trying acpi=off apicpmtimer, so itll use the local apic timer instead of the PIT, maybe thatll help Sep 11 16:12:14 * kergoth shrugs Sep 11 16:13:25 hi kergoth Sep 11 16:14:07 so i guess MS got tired of too many people refusing to upgrade to w2k/XP ? Sep 11 16:14:14 hey chouimat Sep 11 16:16:23 hearing funny things about the Opanki worm Sep 11 16:24:14 So, what's the current procedure to submit a new .bb file? Sep 11 16:25:26 RP: did you book yet? Sep 11 16:25:33 RP: (oedem hotel, that is) Sep 11 16:27:04 mickeyl: not yet, no. Any recommendations? Sep 11 16:27:15 * RP needs to sort that out Sep 11 16:27:37 RP: looks like there are two in direct vincinity (2km) Sep 11 16:27:41 1.) Berliner Bär Sep 11 16:27:45 2.) Alt Tempelhof Sep 11 16:27:47 both 3 stars Sep 11 16:27:58 I think Tomas was thinking of 2) Sep 11 16:28:25 ok, cool, let's just settle on that, then we are three Sep 11 16:28:33 * mickeyl checks availability Sep 11 16:29:21 ? Sep 11 16:29:25 http://www.alt-tempelhof.com/ ? Sep 11 16:30:07 d'oh. nothing available Sep 11 16:30:31 mickeyl: :-( Sep 11 16:30:43 * mickeyl checks 1) Sep 11 16:31:04 * koen should book a hotel soon(TM) Sep 11 16:32:24 evening Sep 11 16:33:50 mickeyl: Was that through the web or phoning them? Sep 11 16:33:54 web Sep 11 16:34:16 mickeyl: ok. tf said there were spaces last week :-/ Sep 11 16:35:21 bbl Sep 11 16:37:10 mickeyl: Let me know where you end up and we'll try and get the same place Sep 11 16:37:15 RP: will do Sep 11 16:49:20 RP: ok, i've booked the "Berliner Bär" now. Sep 11 16:49:27 this is 3km from the conference location Sep 11 16:49:35 including breakfast Sep 11 16:50:12 mickeyl: ok, I'll talk to tf Sep 11 16:50:13 mickeyl: is the bear close to downtown? Sep 11 16:51:29 koen|away: ya, i think so. and it's pretty close to all kinds of public transportation Sep 11 16:51:52 I'll suggest that hotel to Nynke :) Sep 11 16:52:20 who's that? Sep 11 16:52:38 my girlfriend, who will be planning the trip Sep 11 16:52:43 ah, cool Sep 11 16:52:49 "secretary" ;) Sep 11 16:52:51 we'll be staying till monday to see berlin Sep 11 16:54:41 oh cool. Sep 11 16:54:56 and she won't be bored on friday and saturday? Sep 11 16:55:07 mickeyl: RP's overlay patch doesn't apply to 2.6-ezx, so that will have to wait till stefan_schmidt releases a 2.6.18-ezx Sep 11 16:55:17 mickeyl: she said she wouldn't be bored Sep 11 16:55:32 enough shops in berlin ;) Sep 11 16:55:36 heh, true that Sep 11 16:55:41 be sure to take all your CC with you :D Sep 11 16:55:53 :D Sep 11 16:55:57 ok, while i'm in hotel booking mood... Sep 11 16:56:06 * mickeyl searches for a Munich hotel for TT DevDays Sep 11 16:56:15 I just received a notification from fed-ex that google shipped the SoC cheque Sep 11 16:56:21 koen|away: excellent Sep 11 16:56:39 i hope my mentee got his one as well Sep 11 16:57:53 mickeyl: there has been some noise on the mentor list about splitting up organizations Sep 11 16:58:09 mickeyl: the kde-office team wants to be a seperate org next year Sep 11 16:58:32 koen|gprs: i see. i guess they want to have more projects for individual orgs Sep 11 16:59:01 btw: http://projects.linuxtogo.org/frs/?group_id=18&release_id=8 Sep 11 16:59:14 no need to bother figlabs ;) Sep 11 16:59:39 hehe, nice Sep 11 17:01:31 * koen|gprs gets off the train Sep 11 17:01:33 later all Sep 11 17:01:48 Is there something wrong with the following line: SRC_URI = "http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/downloads/libtorrent-${PV}.tar.gz" Sep 11 17:02:01 It doesn't seem to even try to grab the file Sep 11 17:02:03 looks good to me at first glance Sep 11 17:03:15 Thanks. Sigh... weirdness surrounds me. Sep 11 17:03:40 sure you don't inherit a class that zaps SRC_URI? Sep 11 17:04:54 Yes. Figured it out. Seems that the do_fetch stamp was in place but the file wasn't in the download directory Sep 11 17:05:38 aah Sep 11 17:06:33 Trying to build bb files for dtach (detach functions of screen), libtorrent, and rtorrent. Sep 11 17:06:40 cool Sep 11 17:07:20 mozilla sucks Sep 11 17:22:39 Is there an easy way to determine byte alignment? libtorrent's configure script picks up endianness correctly but dies trying to figure it out Sep 11 17:32:10 joshin: there're autoconf site configs for that, to record pre-knowledge for each platform. Sep 11 17:32:14 gcc has an __alignof__(), you can check the alignment of types Sep 11 17:33:14 RP, got a quick question (installing openzaurus on my 3200) Sep 11 17:33:29 thanks kergoth! I'll check that out Sep 11 17:33:38 np. works just like sizeof Sep 11 17:33:41 was playing with it a while back Sep 11 17:33:54 RP, I put the image files in a subdir the first time I tried to install it so it couldnt find them. When i try to do it again I cannot make it go back to the maintenance Sep 11 17:34:29 Kristoffer: don't ask RP, other can help :-| Sep 11 17:34:57 Kristoffer: what do you mean "cannot go back to maintenance"? How are you trying to do it? Sep 11 17:35:26 Pressing OK + powerbutton doesnt go back to maintenance Sep 11 17:36:01 It just gets me back into the default "os" Sep 11 17:36:37 Doh Sep 11 17:36:41 wait just realized something Sep 11 17:36:46 Maybe need to reset it again :D Sep 11 17:42:30 re Sep 11 17:42:49 kergoth: Btw, I heard that you were working on adding arm-wince-pe support for OE. Is there any more info on that? Sep 11 17:43:25 nite folks Sep 11 17:44:48 psokolovsky: havent touched it in a very, very long time, and no longer have any means of testing it :) Sep 11 17:45:26 kergoth: but was it released? any way to have a look at it? Sep 11 17:45:38 not really, would have to do it again Sep 11 17:45:40 iirc Sep 11 17:45:51 dont remember it being all that painful though. Sep 11 17:46:35 hi Sep 11 17:47:20 kergoth: well, if there's some URL, I appreciate it. I just added initial mingw32 support to OE. Took me 2 nights. I luv OE ;-) Sep 11 17:47:56 nice Sep 11 17:48:07 i played with adding cygwin stuff too Sep 11 17:48:18 ~lart mainboard Sep 11 17:48:18 * ibot pushes the wall down onto mainboard whilst whistling innocently Sep 11 17:48:49 I have 2 512M sticks. both works ok when are alone in dimm1. when dimm1/dimm2 are used then memory errors.. Sep 11 17:48:50 Arghh, great just managed to delete the old OS and didnt get the new one installed (due to not fdisk'ng) Sep 11 17:49:01 have to create table and check all combiinations... Sep 11 17:49:36 Any suggestions? Bootdisc for zaurus? :D Sep 11 17:50:22 Kristoffer: there's at list one for PocketPC's ;-) - http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/RamdiskRescue Sep 11 17:51:09 big thx man Sep 11 17:51:55 eh, isnt this for ipaq like systems? Sep 11 17:52:16 JustinP, you there man? Sep 11 17:52:16 Kristoffer: exactly, so I wrote ;-). Sep 11 17:52:29 psokolovsky, ah doh :D This is for a Zaurus SL-C3200 Sep 11 17:52:41 just need a minimalistic system so I can bootup linux and format with fdisk Sep 11 17:52:57 or bootup from CF card Sep 11 17:53:07 Kristoffer: flash OZ 3.5.4.1 bootstrap image then Sep 11 17:53:19 * hrw|tweaking shutdown to exchange mem stick Sep 11 17:53:52 Kristoffer: If there's a way to boot a raw kernel with initrd in your sitaution, you can try RR is nothing else will fit. (it has fdisk, etc.) Sep 11 17:54:05 hrw|tweaking, the problem is that it wont fit on the microdrive partition, cause i didnt partition it Sep 11 17:54:26 hrw|tweaking, or you mean I can boot right away from a CF card? Sep 11 17:57:35 cyrilRomain, Hi! So what about renaming sanitize.py to bbsanitize.py? Sep 11 17:59:18 'evening all Sep 11 17:59:48 hrw|tweaking, ah thx Sep 11 17:59:48 hi psokolovsky! Sep 11 18:00:13 psokolovsky: no need for such a renaming since sanitize in now part of the bittest content_checker :) Sep 11 18:01:16 psokolovsky: I simply defined a 'oe_stylized' function (as suggested by koen) that do what the sanitize.py main's function do Sep 11 18:01:39 s:/oe_stylized/oe_stylize/ even Sep 11 18:02:27 cyrilRomain: well, sanitize is part of bittest, but does bittest part of offcial bitbake? ;-) one needs to set up it first ;-( ;-) Sep 11 18:03:22 bittest can be easily used: zecke wrote a bittest_single command that do not require setup Sep 11 18:03:23 hrw|tweaking, the bootstrap-image wont fit on the microdrive (partition 1?) Sep 11 18:03:55 Anyone good at Zaurus sl-c3200 is welcome to lend a hand here :D Sep 11 18:04:15 psokolovsky: the only thing that is missing since in bittest is to easily test _one_ bitbake file Sep 11 18:04:30 psokolovsky: with bittest you need to change your BBFILE to do that Sep 11 18:05:22 re Sep 11 18:05:32 psokolovsky: I think we can make bittest take bb file as argument to overcome that Sep 11 18:05:37 hey hrw|tweaking Sep 11 18:09:07 Kristoffer: fetch fdisk for sharprom then Sep 11 18:09:34 hrw|tweaking, is the sharprom untouched? Can I do a rest to bring it back? Sep 11 18:11:22 Kristoffer: sharprom is pain but users were able to repartition before installing OZ Sep 11 18:11:47 hrw|tweaking, yes but how Do I reset the machine so I can get into sharprom again? Sep 11 18:11:55 Or do I need to download and update? Sep 11 18:12:05 Kristoffer: you can try to boot into rescue shell Sep 11 18:12:33 The kernel panics, So Im guessing it didnt have room for much in the current partition scheme Sep 11 18:12:40 Kristoffer: disconnect AC, battery. hold DM keys (or DB I do not remember now) and connect AC and turn it on Sep 11 18:13:02 Kristoffer: then release DB - you will boot into rescue system and maybe there will be fdisk Sep 11 18:13:10 oki thx Sep 11 18:15:46 hrw|afk, gives same stuff as before..just gives me openzaurus logo with kernel panic Sep 11 18:22:45 * florian prepares to switch gpe to use dbus 0.92 in oe Sep 11 18:25:30 hrw|afk: shouldn't the gpe versions table be included in the versioned oz distro configs? Sep 11 18:26:10 i mean that the older ones still want to stay at 2.7 inc and the latest wants to include 2.8? Sep 11 18:30:00 anyone with a zaurus sl-c3200 that can give me a helping hand? Sep 11 18:31:55 Kristoffer: what's the problem (sorry, been afk) Sep 11 18:32:32 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Sep 11 18:33:57 JustinP, well I installed openzaurus before doing the partitions, so it couldnt fit everything on the default partitions. And the kernel panics at startup Sep 11 18:34:03 Kristoffer: http://wiki.openzaurus.org/Spitz/Install Sep 11 18:34:29 Kristoffer: see "preparing the hard drive" Sep 11 18:34:40 JustinP, yes but the problem is that I have nothing to run fdisk with :D Sep 11 18:35:31 So what I need is either a way to boot from CF (so I can repartition microdrive) or some way to get old system back Sep 11 18:35:36 Kristoffer: see that section, of course you do Sep 11 18:35:52 from that page: "You can boot to a console from NAND using these instructions:" Sep 11 18:36:26 the zaurii have nice maintenance mode built in :-) Sep 11 18:36:52 when doing that I still get the openzaurus logo and kernel panic Sep 11 18:38:04 Kristoffer:Check out TriSoft's Web site. I think they have resore images for borked clamshells available :) Sep 11 18:38:33 hvontres|poodle, it will work even though I didnt buy it from them? Sep 11 18:38:54 Kristoffer: did you remove your power plug and battery? Sep 11 18:39:09 Kristoffer: try again, but flip #2 and #3 Sep 11 18:39:21 Kristoffer: press D+B then put the battery back in Sep 11 18:39:29 * JustinP thinks the instructions are wrong Sep 11 18:39:38 Kristoffer: I believe so. There were seveal threads on the OESF forums about rescuing your "bricked" 3x00. Sep 11 18:39:40 JustinP, oki, let me try again.. Sep 11 18:40:07 florian: if you can clean it then it would be great - basically current metadata can be set to current GPE stuf only Sep 11 18:40:26 I have to check next entry from RAM table ;( Sep 11 18:40:35 bbl Sep 11 18:40:54 JustinP, you are quite right the instructions are wrong. Switching #2 and #3 worked, Big thx man Sep 11 18:41:01 hvontres|poodle: Kristoffer is not bricked Sep 11 18:41:35 JustinP, oki to partition from console?.. Sep 11 18:42:29 Kristoffer: follow the instructions Sep 11 18:42:33 Kristoffer: on that page Sep 11 18:42:35 * JustinP fixes the page Sep 11 18:42:58 big thx Sep 11 18:43:12 put a note on the page saying "if you tried to install before fixing partitions.." Sep 11 18:43:21 package xulrunner-0.0+cvs20060906: completed Sep 11 18:43:22 Kristoffer: fyi, you should be asking this stuff on #openzaurus, not #oe Sep 11 18:43:23 fear! Sep 11 18:44:15 JustinP, a doh... btw is o really correct? it says on page that it should blow all partitions away but on zaurus it says that "o = create a new empty DOS partition table" Sep 11 18:47:36 Kristoffer: I don't know...press "h" Sep 11 18:48:09 maybe s = create a new empty Sun disklabel? Sep 11 19:03:20 brb - have to switch memstick Sep 11 19:07:41 Hi Sep 11 19:08:31 re Sep 11 19:10:29 hrw: wb Sep 11 19:10:36 hrw: ok, will do so Sep 11 19:11:13 florian: thx Sep 11 19:11:29 JustinP, machine working nicely now thx Sep 11 19:11:45 * florian fears the next pull Sep 11 19:11:54 eh push Sep 11 19:17:45 hmm.. looks like I got working combination of ram sticks Sep 11 19:29:12 hrw: ok, i'll push a big update now... including the updates in the oz configs. Sep 11 19:31:25 ok Sep 11 19:31:32 will look into them tommorow Sep 11 19:33:27 hrw: ok - great Sep 11 19:33:53 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r65c9d170... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): gconf-dbus: Fix dependencies to dbus-glib. Add more recent svn package. Sep 11 19:33:59 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rae263f1a... 10/ (15 files in 5 dirs): dbus: add up to date dbus 0.92 and dbus-glib 0.71 Sep 11 19:34:12 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r252c7ed6... 10/ (1 conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc): preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc: Use new dbus 0.92, add dbus-glib and update gpe-beam. Sep 11 19:34:19 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rf8b59c47... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tosa-2.6.conf): tosa-2.6.conf: Fix location of zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf. Sep 11 19:34:24 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r78f9b14f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): gtk+: Add patch to fix runtime warning (from Familiar tree). Sep 11 19:34:29 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r2e51dac7... 10/ (16 files in 4 dirs): gpe-contacts: Depend on dbus-glib instead of dbus. Drop old releases. Sep 11 19:34:34 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r117d3e1e... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth_0.54.bb): gpe-bluetooth: depend on dbus-glib instead of dbus Sep 11 19:34:39 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r6df83d79... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-beam/gpe-beam_0.2.9.bb): gpe-beam: add 0.2.9 Sep 11 19:34:44 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r3f830082... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-calendar/gpe-calendar_0.72.bb): gpe-calendar: depend on dbus-glib Sep 11 19:34:50 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * rb4a981df... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-autostarter/gpe-autostarter_0.12.bb): gpe-autostarter: add 0.12 Sep 11 19:34:56 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r3a0121b8... 10/ (1 conf/distro/preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc): preferred-gpe-versions-2.8.inc: add current gpe-autostarter Sep 11 19:35:01 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r57e5be33... 10/ (1 packages/gpe-filemanager/gpe-filemanager_0.25.bb): gpe-filemanager: depend on dbus-glib Sep 11 19:35:07 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r9a1b5b60... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): bluez-utils-dbus: update to 2.25 supporting new dbus api Sep 11 19:35:12 03florian 07org.oe.oz354x * r8345e6dd... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): openzaurus: Update configurations to use GPE 2.7 in 3.5.4.1 like before and the updated 2.8 version table in 3.5.4.2. Sep 11 19:36:01 sorry... ;-) Sep 11 19:37:36 why, that's cool ;-) Sep 11 19:38:26 nice set Sep 11 19:39:13 florian: your tosa image contain those changes? I'm flashing it now Sep 11 19:41:46 i can imagine pH5 might like it :-) Sep 11 19:42:12 :) Sep 11 19:42:26 hrw: yes... and i think everything necessary is in mow Sep 11 19:42:32 s/mow/now Sep 11 19:42:35 ok Sep 11 19:43:11 ah... it might contain a little bit different software selection... i had a hacked "gpe-image.bb" laying around. Sep 11 19:43:22 ;) Sep 11 19:43:34 I have to regenerate oz-bootsplash one day Sep 11 19:44:02 those svg files have notneeded border Sep 11 19:45:51 florian: hmm.. no question about root password?? Sep 11 19:49:01 hrw: yes, i commented out the zap_root_password... Sep 11 19:49:47 hi Sep 11 19:49:50 if somebody needs the latest status of zap_root_password, just ask me :-D Sep 11 19:50:42 I wonder why noone added windowmaker into OE... Sep 11 19:51:01 because it has too large buttons :) Sep 11 19:51:32 and is hard to use with one button mouse? Sep 11 19:52:03 florian: atleast OE generated images contain now all my hacks ;) Sep 11 19:52:55 florian: one more thing... why gpe-dm is blue? Sep 11 19:54:43 and something is fscked with wlan-ng ;( does not go up.. Sep 11 19:55:25 brb - boot into normal system Sep 11 19:56:51 heh Sep 11 19:57:00 you mean ppc? :-] Sep 11 19:57:19 zap: no - debian instead of knoppix Sep 11 19:57:39 if just startet to work with oe, and have "the first" problem. How can I freeze the cvs version of a kernel source (handhelds-sa-2.6 kernel tree) Sep 11 19:57:45 zap: I do not have ppc (as powerpc) hardware Sep 11 19:58:08 Slims: SRCDATE_handhelds-sa-2.6 = "20060902" Sep 11 19:58:12 i was meaning pocket pc (e.g. wince :) Sep 11 19:58:24 thanks i try it Sep 11 19:59:05 zap: then I do not have such hardware too Sep 11 19:59:28 hrw: pb_ liked the colour... Familiar has a patch to make it use the default theme iirc Sep 11 20:00:22 ah Sep 11 20:07:11 cu Sep 11 20:11:57 * v8jlene is back Sep 11 20:18:36 florian: .dev should also have the no-blue patch :) Sep 11 20:20:57 koen|away: :-) Sep 11 20:21:14 * florian still wonders what happened to pb_ Sep 11 20:21:35 I think I did disguise it a 'fontfix.patch' or something like that Sep 11 20:21:59 florian: could you also add the gtk patch you pushed to .oz to .dev? Sep 11 20:23:39 koen: good point... and more, i need to check if we have all up to date gpe version in it and try to find out why the gtk file selector causes segfaults in oz but not in Familiar. Sep 11 20:24:01 no idea Sep 11 20:24:28 * mrz80 is back (gone 01:51:57) Sep 11 20:31:42 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Sep 11 20:45:53 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rcf9ef45e... 10/ (5 files in 2 dirs): site i486,i586,sh4: Add required site file entry for rp-pppoe. Sep 11 21:34:49 What's the best/proper way to install a library that is depended upon by other packages? I'm working on getting libtorrent built (and then submit the bb file). Sep 11 21:35:24 An example bb file would be fine. I see a few different ways in various bb files. Sep 11 21:38:40 joshin: Add it to RDEPENDS if you need the library at run-time, to DEPENDS if you need it at compile time. Sep 11 21:39:47 v8jlene, Got that, thanks! I want to know the best way to ADD a library so that a package that depends on it will be built. Sep 11 21:40:06 oe_libinstall would appear to be the proper way Sep 11 21:41:25 joshin: Ah, how to put libraries and headers in the staging area for a new .bb you've created then? Sep 11 21:41:47 v8jlene, exactly. Sep 11 21:42:50 joshin: Very short example: http://www.openembedded.info/wiki/Bitbake_recipes#do_stage Sep 11 21:43:11 Perfect, thanks! Sep 11 21:44:07 Next thing should be to whom should I send the bb files to add them to the repository. :) Sep 11 21:44:53 The usual thing is to add them to the bugtracker once they are working ok. Or send to mailing list for comments. Sep 11 21:45:55 It's a good idea to run org.openembedded.dev/contrib/sanitize.py over your .bb's as well to make sure they are the correct style. Sep 11 21:46:34 Will do. Sep 11 21:50:35 v8jlene, Hi! So, how about adding section list to wiki? Sep 11 21:52:49 psokolovsky: Feel free to do it ;) Sep 11 21:53:04 v8jlene: ok Sep 11 21:53:59 psokolovsky: I think there's already a list on there somewhere as well, its a bit difficult to find. Sep 11 21:54:17 Mozilla is in dire need of an Xorg like splitting Sep 11 21:54:35 v8jlene, ok will, look for it. but it's place is clearly at Policies page Sep 11 21:55:01 I'm working on completing a .bb recipe chapter for the usermanual which is probably a more useful activity for me at the moment! Sep 11 21:56:54 v8jlene, sure. just don't want to get ahead of you ;-) Sep 11 21:57:05 there is already a section list in the manual: http://www.openembedded.org/bbfile Sep 11 21:57:21 but there is a more recent list also Sep 11 21:57:32 * cyrilRomain finds ... Sep 11 21:58:05 http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s09 Sep 11 21:58:10 Yeah, that's where I had seen it on the web page. That one should probably just be removed. Sep 11 21:58:27 the second one ? Sep 11 21:58:36 cyrilRomain: Yeah, that's my most recent this. Sep 11 21:59:03 Heh, our comments crossed ;) No user manual one stays, one on http://www.openembedded.org/bbfile to go. Sep 11 21:59:52 v8jlene: :) Sep 11 21:59:54 "most recent this"? too early in the morning,,, that should have been "most recent one" (for http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s09) Sep 11 22:00:23 v8jlene: the most recent one is: http://www.openembedded.org/user-manual&dpage=ch07s09 Sep 11 22:00:45 cyrilRomain: Yep. (I wrote that one) Sep 11 22:00:49 v8jlene: lol, too late in the evening for me ;) Sep 11 22:00:56 v8jlene, cyrilRomain: I propose following: one currently in manual stays, marked as RFC1. The main list is kept in wiki, where it can be easily udpated. Once it is stable, moved back to manual. Sep 11 22:02:50 psokolovsky: I agree, but I'm not the good person to decide Sep 11 22:24:57 who knows what engine http://www.openembedded.org runs on? there's no wiki help ;-/ Sep 11 22:27:13 psokolovsky: ! Sep 11 22:27:32 psokolovsky: i guess koen can fix that... Sep 11 22:27:42 psokolovsky: moinmoin (I think) Sep 11 22:28:04 florian: yes, Koen agreed it sucks ;-) Sep 11 22:28:19 v8jlene: right Sep 11 22:28:20 v8jlene, if... Unfortunately, no ;-( Sep 11 22:29:34 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rdf35446b... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) Sep 11 22:29:34 gnupg 1.4.2.2: Fix for x86. The assembler code was being compiled Sep 11 22:29:34 with underscores prefixed to the functions while the C code was not Sep 11 22:29:34 expecting the underscores. This was caused by the configure script Sep 11 22:29:34 assuming that _'s were required when cross-compiling. Turning off Sep 11 22:29:35 assembler code via a configure option would have fixed this, but Sep 11 22:29:39 instead I've modified the configure script to actually test for Sep 11 22:30:11 psokolovsky: Hmm... I see a mention of drupal in the page source... Sep 11 22:32:03 v8jlene: yes it is drupal Sep 11 22:33:11 v8jlene, good catch. now just need find wiki doc on their site %) Sep 11 22:34:16 the main website is made with drupal, but iirc the wiki is moinmoin Sep 11 22:35:03 g'night Sep 11 22:35:16 03mickeyl * r606 10bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py: Sep 11 22:35:16 * shell: fix 'which' command Sep 11 22:35:16 * shell: use 'rebuild' task for implementing rebuild Sep 11 22:38:24 Ok, so it eats mediawiki syntax. Sep 11 22:38:41 wiki syntax is real new problem in information exchange ;-) Sep 11 22:39:58 psokolovsky: PEAR (PHP) package Text_Wiki supports a bunch of syntaxes and can be used for translations ;-) Sep 11 22:40:34 JustinP: cool, just need add some doc link for that ;-) Sep 11 22:41:17 it doesn't have moinmoin AFAIK....but it does have some MediaWiki support Sep 11 22:41:59 JustinP: checked that tables work ;-). Added note on frontpage. Sep 11 22:43:45 hum, isn't restructured text made to use the same wiki syntax anywere ? Sep 11 22:45:21 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * rcca36223... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-utils_20060128.bb): e-utils: remove e dependency as it is no longer a package Sep 11 22:45:27 03justinp 07org.oe.dev * r4b587626... 10/ (1 packages/e17/e-utils_20060501.bb): e-utils: remove e dependency as it is no longer a package Sep 11 22:46:45 anyway, here's a page: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/SectionList . I'll fill in actual list later Sep 11 22:48:50 03justinp 07org.oe.oz354x * rc593a621... 10/ (1 packages/e17/engage_20060128.bb): engage: remove e DEPENDS Sep 11 22:50:48 Hi, anybody ever heard of assa or libassa? Is it available for OE? Sep 11 22:51:19 heard, don't remember what it is Sep 11 22:51:22 Laibsch: check the website Sep 11 22:51:44 Laibsch: http://www.openembedded.org/filebrowser/org.openembedded.dev/packages Sep 11 22:53:08 JustinP: Seems like it is not there. :-( Sep 11 22:53:30 Laibsch: sometimes it's as easy as giving it a source URL and inherit autotools ;-) Sep 11 22:53:35 (and depd) Sep 11 22:53:37 deps Sep 11 22:53:52 yes, I know. Sep 11 22:53:56 Let's see. Sep 11 22:54:25 I try to build granule.sf.net. And incidentally, libassa.sf.net seems to be from the same guy. Sep 11 22:56:22 v8jlene: psst ! check your mail for the new sanitize.py Sep 11 22:57:44 cyrilRomain: Hmm... i don't see any attachment in your email? Did you forget to add it (or to my mail->news gateway stuff it up?) Sep 11 22:58:38 v8jlene: gosh! I attached it though :( Sep 11 23:01:26 v8jlene: Attached autotools fix to http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1326 . Maybe you can review it now. Sep 11 23:01:29 * cyrilRomain wonders why. As if mime type was not correct Sep 11 23:02:51 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1b9ad8be... 10/ (1 site/i486-linux site/i586-linux): site i{4,5}86-linux: Add required entries for lftp. Sep 11 23:04:43 rahh +à@~~# Sep 11 23:05:22 cyrilRomain: Can you email it directly to me? Or try it out on packages/quagga/quagga.inc or packages/iputils/iputils_20020927.bb which were two that it was making a bit of a mess of. Sep 11 23:05:31 psokolovsky: Will check now. Sep 11 23:05:38 thanks Sep 11 23:06:04 v8jlene: sure Sep 11 23:08:25 v8jlene: I made correction working on quagga.inc Sep 11 23:08:36 s/tion/tions/ even Sep 11 23:09:24 v8jlene: if you find anothers issues, feel free to send me an email Sep 11 23:11:42 hum.. probably the mail server ignore text file that exceed a certain size and certain file on extensions ... Sep 11 23:14:04 'night all Sep 11 23:14:51 psokolovsky: Builds fine on sh4, i486 and i586. The .pc files looks fine. Things that depend on libpng build fine. Sep 11 23:15:19 v8jlene: Ditto for me. So, I commit it? Sep 11 23:15:35 cyrilRomain, gnite Sep 11 23:15:37 cyrilRomain: New version looks much better. Thanks, Sep 11 23:17:18 psokolovsky: Might be worth bumping PR to make sure everyone rebuilds it? Sep 11 23:17:46 psokolovsky: Otherwise go ahead and commit - it's definately an improvement! Sep 11 23:19:00 v8jlene: Sure, just seems it was older diff I made before bumping PR and rebuilding. Sep 11 23:19:01 ok Sep 11 23:33:59 03cyril.romain 07org.oe.dev * r69dac44f... 10/ (1 contrib/sanitize.py): (log message trimmed) Sep 11 23:33:59 contrib/sanitize.py: Revision 0.5 Sep 11 23:33:59 * Recognise pkg_preins and pkg_prerm scripts Sep 11 23:33:59 * For alternatives put the required items before the option items Sep 11 23:33:59 * For initscripts put the package list first Sep 11 23:34:00 * Recognise PKG variable Sep 11 23:34:02 * Remove blank lines between variables with the same prefix (eg the Sep 11 23:34:56 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * reed5ae4e... 10/ (1 packages/libpng/libpng_1.2.12.bb): Sep 11 23:34:56 libpng 1.2.12: Switch to use autoconf'ed build. Sep 11 23:34:56 * 1.2.12 (or other version past 1.2.8) switched to the full configure support, Sep 11 23:34:56 use autotools class to build it. Sep 11 23:38:06 psokolovsky: libpng-native doesn't work (it didn't work prior to your change either, so nothing new there) Sep 11 23:41:30 v8jlene, will have a look Sep 11 23:41:31 psokolovsky: False alarm.. I needed to merge before update would work. It works fine. So you actually fixed libpng-native as a side effect of your change ;) Sep 11 23:41:44 v8jlene, ok ;-) Sep 11 23:42:21 v8jlene, btw, what happened to your site configs refactors? Sep 11 23:44:25 psokolovsky: It works fine for me and it's nice being able to stick the site files in with the package (where they are package specific)... I made a new diff this morning which I'll re-send and then see what happens. Sep 11 23:45:34 v8jlene: Nice! I just re-read previous thread and also think it's good idea (now that I faced that too ;-) Sep 11 23:47:48 Even just mergering the i{4,5,6}86-linux files would make my life easier! Sep 11 23:52:38 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1bca221f... 10/ (1 packages/libgpg-error/libgpg-error_1.3.bb): libgpg-error 1.3: Remove spurious .debug directories from the non -dbg packages. Sep 12 00:09:44 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * ra7f8532d... 10/ (1 packages/gnupg/gnupg.inc packages/gnupg/gnupg_1.4.2.2.bb): gnupg 1.4.2.2: Remove spurious .debug directories from the non -dbg packages. Sep 12 01:13:34 * v8jlene is away (lunch) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Sep 12 02:59:57 2006