**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 26 02:59:56 2006 Sep 26 06:44:40 salut Sep 26 06:47:58 Greetings ! Sep 26 06:48:24 morning :) Sep 26 06:49:29 Genesis : hi Sep 26 06:50:21 563 revisions... some people were busy all these days :) Sep 26 06:55:02 * v8jlene is back Sep 26 07:18:38 good morning all Sep 26 07:21:57 koen: morning Sep 26 07:25:01 koen : morning Sep 26 07:27:48 hey v8jlene & Ifaistos Sep 26 07:28:41 morning Sep 26 07:28:47 hey hrw|work Sep 26 07:29:40 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r2ae64e9d... 10/ (1 classes/cpan.bbclass): Sep 26 07:29:40 cpan.bbclass: Instead of putting modules into ${libdir}/perl5 put them into Sep 26 07:29:40 ${libdir}/perl5/site_perl/${version} since ${libdir}/perl5 is not part of Sep 26 07:29:40 the standard INC (search) path for perl and so these modules are not Sep 26 07:29:41 found by default in the original location. Technically they should go Sep 26 07:29:43 in vendor_perl instead of site_perl, but that requires changes to all Sep 26 07:29:45 of the configuration files which is a much more complex change. Sep 26 07:29:47 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r87190a93... 10/ (1 classes/cpan_build.bbclass): Sep 26 07:29:49 cpan_build.bbclass: The existing cpan.bbclass works for perl modules that Sep 26 07:29:51 uses the old Makefile.PL based build ssytem. This class is for perl modules Sep 26 07:29:55 that use the new Build.PL based build system (not widely used yet but Sep 26 07:29:57 starting to appear). Again this use site_perl instead of vendor_perl since Sep 26 07:29:59 vender_perl is not being setup by the perl build. Sep 26 07:32:15 koen : Just back from my honeymoon... i think i can make it to the OEDEM, is it still on the same dates ? Sep 26 07:32:49 Ifaistos: congrats on the wedding and honeymoon Sep 26 07:33:09 http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/OEDEM that has the latest info Sep 26 07:36:35 koen : any info on location, in order to arrange for hotel ? Sep 26 07:37:09 it's near the U6 subway line Sep 26 07:37:15 I forget where the location was Sep 26 07:37:20 * koen looks at zecke Sep 26 07:38:20 koen, Ifaistos: http://www.bmco-forum.org/index.php?id=28 Sep 26 07:38:32 morning all btw Sep 26 07:38:52 hey RP Sep 26 07:40:40 RP : Hey Sep 26 07:42:26 Adding new user `gitlog' (UID 113) with group `adm' ... Sep 26 07:42:29 * koen WTFs Sep 26 07:43:19 hi RP Sep 26 07:44:51 howdy folks Sep 26 07:45:29 morning Sep 26 07:46:25 hey XorA Sep 26 07:50:06 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rcd0ccc8a... 10/ (1 classes/cpan.bbclass classes/cpan_build.bbclass): Sep 26 07:50:06 cpan.bbclass/cpan_build.bbclass: Make all perl modules DEPEND on perl Sep 26 07:50:06 and RDEPEND on perl-native to avoid having to add it to every single Sep 26 07:50:06 perl module recipe. Sep 26 07:50:50 v8jlene: RDEPEND on -native? Sep 26 07:51:15 That sounds very very wrong Sep 26 07:51:52 grrr... the codes correct.. comment has it backwards ;( Sep 26 07:52:20 I suspected something like that :) Sep 26 07:52:29 It RDEPENDS on perl, DEPENDS on perl-native *sigh* I'm drowning in perl modules... Sep 26 07:55:09 v8jlene: don't forget to bump PR on the affected modules Sep 26 07:55:58 def build( self, params, cmd = "build" ): Sep 26 07:56:00 hmmm Sep 26 07:56:16 /data/build/oe/bitbake/lib/bb/shell.py:145: SyntaxWarning: name 'last_exception' is assigned to before global declaration Sep 26 07:56:20 koen: Yeah, I'll get to it. There's only two checked in and no one could have ever used those 'cause they don't work ;) They were added for the native versions... Sep 26 08:00:13 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r57f56983... 10/ (19 files in 2 dirs): Sep 26 08:00:13 perl modules: Add the first collection of perl modules. These modules are Sep 26 08:00:13 required to run mason (perl web content development and delivery engine). Sep 26 08:00:13 Mason itself, and the additional modules needed to build it, to follow. Sep 26 08:01:12 burned thinkpad looks nice Sep 26 08:01:58 hrw|work: it's a secret plot to kill FOSS developers Sep 26 08:04:47 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r2a36f6aa... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Sep 26 08:04:47 perl: Update modules that were effected by the cpan.bbclass changes: Sep 26 08:04:47 - Remove the DEPENDS on perl since the cpan class now adds it. Sep 26 08:04:47 - Bump PR to take into account the changed installation location. Sep 26 08:05:31 03xora 07org.oe.oz354x * r413f65e0... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb): linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb : update to ASoC 0.11.5 Sep 26 08:06:11 XorA: thx Sep 26 08:06:34 XorA: now time to rebuild and finding testers Sep 26 08:06:54 hrw|work: I am running that on c7x0 Sep 26 08:07:07 hrw|work: I reported that kernel to .dev Sep 26 08:07:10 XorA: testers = akita, spitz also Sep 26 08:07:20 hrw|work: when it arrives :-) Sep 26 08:07:26 hrw@bitbake:~/devel/build/3541$ for machine in c7x0 akita spitz ;do echo "MACHINE = \"$machine\"" > conf/auto.conf;echo "MACHINE = \"$machine\""; bbrebuild packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.16.bb ;done;date Sep 26 08:08:05 ~hail multimachine Sep 26 08:08:08 * ibot bows down to multimachine and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Sep 26 08:11:01 45 patches applied to 2.6.16 Sep 26 08:13:05 hmm. squashfs not updated... will skip updating it anyway Sep 26 08:15:23 c7x0 built Sep 26 08:15:44 hmm.. iptables... Sep 26 08:15:51 ohi Sep 26 08:15:55 03rpurdie 07org.oe.dev * r5386fdf3... 10/ (1 packages/linux/linux-openzaurus_2.6.18.bb): linux-oz-2.6.18: Update to ASoC 0.11.7, refresh poodle_audio patch, correct hrw-pcmcia-ids revision number Sep 26 08:15:57 was about to go to sleep Sep 26 08:16:14 RP: ops. Sep 26 08:16:29 hrw|work: np ;-) Sep 26 08:17:22 hrw|work can I expect iptables modules for sl-c3200 anytime soon? :) Sep 26 08:17:27 Kevin`: what blocks you? Sep 26 08:17:35 Kevin`: will add it today Sep 26 08:17:44 blocks me? Sep 26 08:18:15 Kevin`: from going to sleep Sep 26 08:18:21 is poodle supposed to flash lights when charging? Sep 26 08:18:26 just asking that Sep 26 08:18:29 good night Sep 26 08:18:47 XorA: It depends how low on charge it is... Sep 26 08:18:59 RP: I dont think Liam charged it so its dead Sep 26 08:19:19 XorA: unplug and replug the charger after a few minutes and it will probably show lights Sep 26 08:19:50 XorA: o.. you got that poodle into hands? Sep 26 08:20:38 hrw|work: yeah Sep 26 08:20:54 hrw|work: building an umage right now Sep 26 08:21:17 XorA: 3.5.4.2 is too old? :D Sep 26 08:21:59 hrw|work: need dev env for fixng ASoC anyway Sep 26 08:22:47 XorA: its probably too early to ask, but how do you feel being paid for working with Zauruses? Sep 26 08:22:52 hi olivier Sep 26 08:23:12 hrw|work: money is always good Sep 26 08:30:38 all 3 machines built Sep 26 08:34:03 hey Sep 26 08:34:13 hi zecke Sep 26 08:34:33 wooo oz 3.5.3 Sep 26 08:35:04 hi zecke Sep 26 08:35:15 hey Sep 26 08:35:28 zecke: How did the presentation go? Sep 26 08:35:46 I think it was quite amusing for me and everyone around Sep 26 08:35:55 and I have gotten more feedback than expected Sep 26 08:35:58 zecke: do you have the slides online? Sep 26 08:36:09 koen: slides? slides are for losers ;) Sep 26 08:36:13 zecke: and does TT have a bounty on your head now? Sep 26 08:36:21 zecke: sounds good :) Sep 26 08:36:22 koen: no, actually not at all Sep 26 08:36:46 RP: So more and more people, even OSDL, care for mobile devices Sep 26 08:37:06 RP: and even OSDL classifies stuff like Zaurus, N770 as 'desktop' because it has a GUI Sep 26 08:37:19 RP: so we are finally getting away from the term 'Embedded Devices' Sep 26 08:37:49 zecke: The term has never bothered me but I can see what that is good :) Sep 26 08:40:01 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * rde17215c... 10/ (1 classes/kernel.bbclass): kernel.bbclass: do not override machine/*.conf setting of KERNEL_IMAGETYPE to allow image other than zImage to be produced - close #1435 Sep 26 08:40:58 Is Tom on irc? Sep 26 08:41:06 t0mw ? Sep 26 08:41:09 its --author push Sep 26 08:41:15 who is Tom anyway? Sep 26 08:41:24 eh? Sep 26 08:41:53 koen: you rang? Sep 26 08:41:54 T0mW: Did you file bug 1435? Sep 26 08:41:54 'mtn automate certs' is your friend :) Sep 26 08:42:00 RP: yeah Sep 26 08:42:22 RP: that's the one about the KERNEL_IMAGETYPE ? Sep 26 08:42:43 T0mW: In future can you file bugs in the OE metadata against OE, not bitbake Sep 26 08:42:55 huh? Sep 26 08:43:19 RP: I thought the class lib was bitbake? Sep 26 08:43:31 RP: oh, doh, sorry Sep 26 08:43:41 T0mW: No, the classes are in OE Sep 26 08:44:06 RP: I tend to think of the apps as OE and anything that isn't an app as BitBake Sep 26 08:44:25 RP: got it now. heh Sep 26 08:44:41 T0mW: np :) Sep 26 08:45:16 T0mW: FWIW, I'm not sure the machine.conf is the best place to set KERNEL_IMAGETYPE - Its usually set by the kernel .bb file (after the inherit kernel) Sep 26 08:45:31 my first project is about done here, I am very pleased with the results of having use OE to build it. Sep 26 08:45:42 (although I can see arguments either way...) Sep 26 08:45:58 RP: yeah, but you cannot override what the kernel.class will do. Sep 26 08:46:33 RP: imagine machines which use different bootloaders so need uimage/zimage but has one kernel... Sep 26 08:46:42 T0mW: you can - 'inherit kergel \n KERNEL_IMAGETYPE="bzImage"' Sep 26 08:47:09 ok Sep 26 08:47:20 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * raf3514ac... 10/ (1 classes/base.bbclass): base.bbclass: handle tar.Z archives - close #1433 Sep 26 08:47:22 T0mW: Can you tell us what the project was out of interest or not? Sep 26 08:47:38 np, it is the Zipit Sep 26 08:48:15 T0mW: Ah, interesting. Have we a machine.conf for that in OE now? Sep 26 08:48:22 RP: http://www.openzip.org Sep 26 08:49:07 RP: couple more things to polish and then I'll see about getting a dev account to commit the stuff. Sep 26 08:49:31 T0mW: Host openzip.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) :-/ Sep 26 08:49:55 RP: doh, http://www.openzipit.org I am really tired of typing tonite. I need a break! Sep 26 08:50:22 RP: check out the Add-On Board, that is mine Sep 26 08:52:23 T0mW: very cool :) Sep 26 08:54:06 RP: That thing just has caught my imagination. I pick them up on ebay for about $60 Sep 26 08:54:48 I've got this one running openvpn and accessing my IMAP mail from public wifi. Sep 26 08:55:08 03Tom 07org.oe.dev * r34b832f9... 10/ (1 packages/pine/pine_4.63.bb): pine: fixed SRC_URI - close #1434 Sep 26 08:55:09 cannot get weechat to build though Sep 26 08:55:55 T0mW: I know someone with one and played with one for a while. They're quite cute devices :) Sep 26 08:56:31 cute devices? where :) Sep 26 08:56:32 The thing is that the flash is too small to do anything serious with it. Sep 26 08:56:46 simcop2387: down boy, down. Sep 26 08:57:00 T0mW: But this is where your miniSD comes in? :) Sep 26 08:57:04 T0mW: what kind of devices? i'm always up for new devices Sep 26 08:57:38 RP: yeah, the new system I put together with OE loads the kernel from flash but boots from the mmc card. Sep 26 08:58:03 I just wish that I could put a clock in this thing. Sep 26 08:58:09 no room Sep 26 08:58:17 just keep using ntpdate! Sep 26 08:58:33 simcop2387: LOL yes Sep 26 08:59:23 simcop2387: when you power the unit off, save the old clock time for the next boot. that way your files have something like a real date/time on them. Sep 26 09:00:39 yea, i'm planning on patching/fixing my zaurus (collie) to do that, with the latest openzaurus, it resets it to build time at boot for some odd reason Sep 26 09:01:04 ew! Sep 26 09:01:05 simcop2387: on collie you can try to remove /etc/timestamp Sep 26 09:01:57 03Shane 07org.oe.dev * r5792a180... 10/ (1 packages/gdb/gdb-cross_6.4.bb): gdb-cross: added 6.4 version - closed #1426 Sep 26 09:02:27 do we have ciabot source in contrib? Sep 26 09:03:31 hrw|work: thanks, i planned on going through the whole init :) Sep 26 09:04:23 though i may end up writing a Makefile driven init for the collie anyway, simply because of how much faster i know it can be thanks to less overhead Sep 26 09:04:55 i once booted a 486 33mhz laptop in < 10 seconds that way, fully functional boot too Sep 26 09:05:07 hard as hell to maintain though Sep 26 09:07:23 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r78ea8c7c... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): glibc 2.4 backport two patches from HEAD Sep 26 09:12:01 03Bastian 07org.oe.dev * rdf4696f2... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): bacula-client: added 1.38.11 - close #1420 Sep 26 09:12:12 hey there Sep 26 09:12:28 How do I DEPENDS on a specific version of another bbfile Sep 26 09:12:48 no way now Sep 26 09:13:00 hmm Sep 26 09:15:31 there we go, got it to stop trying to compile the 2.6 kernel for collie, (it kept borking on uart symbols anyway) Sep 26 09:22:47 good morning Sep 26 09:23:54 good morning to you 2 Sep 26 09:24:43 leon@blaze:~/sandbox/ixp4xx/openembedded/build/tmp/work/busybox-1.2.1-r1.3/busybox-1.2.1$ grep MOUNT .config -----> # CONFIG_MOUNT is not set Sep 26 09:25:31 I do not get how the busybox mount functionality is used in OE, can someone explain pls? Sep 26 09:28:30 T0mW: hows is your samsung coming? Sep 26 09:29:28 XorA: heh, been spending time learning OE. Next week I'll have to pull that samsung together. I cannot get the USB working on it. Sep 26 09:29:39 T0mW: which board do you have? Sep 26 09:30:08 XorA: the littlechips LN2410SBC-LN64 Sep 26 09:30:21 T0mW: have a SMDK2440 here Sep 26 09:30:32 ah Sep 26 09:30:37 XorA: http://www.littlechips.com/LN2410SBC_TFT.htm Sep 26 09:31:09 XorA: I don't need the LCD for this project, but... Sep 26 09:31:12 ;) Sep 26 09:31:46 T0mW: cool, we are trying to figure out the 2440 seems a bit quiet on board support for that Sep 26 09:32:21 humpf, everyone seems quiet about linux support for thier boards, don't they? Sep 26 09:32:44 T0mW: yeah, all pretty pictures, no code Sep 26 09:33:54 XorA: been there done that, I bought a couple of dev boards these past few years and it seems that most will give you an outdated kernel source and then give you blank looks when you ask about linux. Sep 26 09:36:29 Hi, all! Anybody tried to cross-compile ncurses? it seems to ignore CFLAGS environment variable... Sep 26 09:41:08 03Bastian 07org.oe.dev * r9b62bcf6... 10/ (8 files in 4 dirs): privoxy: added 3.0.3 - close #1419 Sep 26 09:50:36 XorA: when you will get working poodle image then can you look at #1388 and #1415? Sep 26 09:53:00 hrw|work: 1388 is my job Sep 26 09:54:06 XorA: 1388 should be fixed in recent ASoC releases. The only known issue is now the static Sep 26 09:54:12 XorA: I know, but nudge anyway Sep 26 09:54:36 RP: currently my machine is catching fire doing two builds :-) Sep 26 09:59:07 mickey|zzZZzz: I suspect your last email needs a PREFERRED_PROVIDER_dbus-glib = "dbus-glib" but I missed the orignal mail Sep 26 10:00:41 get_gcc_fpu_setting get_glibc_fpu_setting functions.. will they migrate into classes/ or bitbake trunk will warn about them? Sep 26 10:01:35 * XorA hasnt seen opie for years :-) Sep 26 10:03:57 XorA: I do not remember when last time I saw any gui on Z :) Sep 26 10:06:05 RP: does bitbake trunk (r612) is usable/working? Sep 26 10:09:51 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * rbbe00e72... 10/ (1 packages/opie-mediaplayer1/opie-mediaplayer1.inc): opie-mediaplayer1: remove unneded DEPENDS on opie-mediaplayer2-skin-default - probably close #1406 Sep 26 10:13:21 hrw|work: you are near to marriage, you arent allowed toys :-) Sep 26 10:14:32 XorA: its not so good already Sep 26 10:19:57 hrw|work: I'm running trunk for all my builds... Sep 26 10:20:16 In fact I'm considering moving poky to use trunk... Sep 26 10:20:19 ok Sep 26 10:20:50 RP: can you do 'bitbake-trunk -n opie-mediaplayer1' on recent .dev? Sep 26 10:21:11 hrw|work: No, it will give circular dependency errors Sep 26 10:21:26 RP: .dev or opie-mediaplayer1? Sep 26 10:21:44 hrw|work: The metadata is correct but incompatible with debian.bbclass Sep 26 10:21:49 aha Sep 26 10:21:59 hi Bernardo Sep 26 10:22:01 good morning Sep 26 10:22:06 hi hrw|work Sep 26 10:22:21 hrw|work: How we solve it is a difficult question and probably needs a rewrite of our package renaming code Sep 26 10:25:59 12:43 hrw@work:linux-2.6.16$ diff -u ../defconfig-c7x0 .config|diffstat .config | 128 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------- Sep 26 10:26:35 iptables stuff... Sep 26 10:26:49 RP: FYI, for me, bitbake trunk stopped working at all after latest commits (which were >1week ago though). Sep 26 10:28:06 RP: And before that, trunk tried to fetch more stuff than 1.6. I.e. when "bitbake gpe-image" converged to just building image with 1.6, running trunk tried to pull up more stuff. Sep 26 10:28:43 psokolovsky: Stopped working in what way? Sep 26 10:29:03 RP: Anyway, is there some requirements/textual description why dep refactor was done and what it addressed. I'd like to know background before asking stupid questions ;-) Sep 26 10:29:19 psokolovsky: It will build more things but it is correct to do so - dependency handling was incorrect in previous versions :-( Sep 26 10:30:02 psokolovsky: I can summarise - the problem is debian.bbclass - it renamed packages and requires anything to be built before it can work out the correct renaming Sep 26 10:30:03 RP: Currently, it gives parsing error for each .bb ;-(. Anyway, consider that FYI only. I'll double-check my setup, and only them come up with mor formal report/questions. Sep 26 10:30:23 psokolovsky: It shouldn't give a parsing error (and doesn't do that here) Sep 26 10:30:43 RP: I tried to move away debian.class usage, but it still tried to fethc more. Sep 26 10:31:20 RP: Ok, again, i need look more carefully at it. Just on todo for couple of weeks, so I guessed I just mention it now ;-) Sep 26 10:31:21 psokolovsky: When you say moved away from, you removed the inherit? Sep 26 10:31:36 RP: Yes, from angstrom distro config. Sep 26 10:31:56 That should have stopped it pulling in most things Sep 26 10:33:33 so I thought. maybe I made a mistake somewhere. So, is there a kind of summary what issues the refactor addressed, except allowing for multithreaded builds? Sep 26 10:34:15 psokolovsky: It isn't really documented anywhere :-/ Sep 26 10:34:34 RP: Ok, np, code is my friend ;-) Sep 26 10:34:59 RP: what do you think about dropping other machines then c7x0/spitz/akita from 2.6.16 in .oz354x? Sep 26 10:35:43 hrw|work: I have no problem with that Sep 26 10:35:50 ko Sep 26 10:36:25 RP: Just in case, passing a feature request I got from users: it would be nice to make possible separate fetching of all sources required to build some target, to be them later (e.g., work vs home). I guess, new dep framework would allow to do that. Sep 26 10:36:52 RP: Or would -c fetch would do that with trunk already? Sep 26 10:37:01 psokolovsky: It will, we just need to add some way to trigger it from the commandline Sep 26 10:37:11 psokolovsky: bitbake -cfetch some-target Sep 26 10:37:33 That won't work and never should have as the fetch task doesn't depend on all the other fetch tasks Sep 26 10:37:34 RP, hrw|work: Ok, thanks, will pass that info Sep 26 10:37:44 hm Sep 26 10:38:00 ok Sep 26 10:39:53 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * rde446702... 10/ (7 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz 2.6.16: drop support of other models then c7x0/spitz/akita Sep 26 10:39:58 03hrw 07org.oe.oz354x * r92e38746... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): linux-oz 2.6.16: enable iptables Sep 26 11:25:23 hey mikearthur Sep 26 11:25:30 good day XorA Sep 26 11:25:33 enjoying wolfson? Sep 26 11:25:59 mikearthur: cool so far Sep 26 11:26:16 mikearthur: your muppet makes it easy to find my desk Sep 26 11:26:20 :D Sep 26 11:33:14 XorA: changed jobs ? Sep 26 11:41:04 ade|desk: Im sitting in mikes old seat in wolfson Sep 26 11:44:44 XorA: groovy Sep 26 11:51:33 morning all Sep 26 11:51:46 What's the proper way to fix the package versions inside a stable distro release? Sep 26 11:51:57 hey lrg Sep 26 11:52:10 likewise: PREFERRED_VERSION_package = "myversion" Sep 26 11:52:11 hi all Sep 26 11:52:15 RP: does zaurus serial need a MAX chip inline? Sep 26 11:52:26 hrw|work: and set this for each package in the distro.conf file? Sep 26 11:55:27 yes Sep 26 11:56:07 m orning Sep 26 12:17:32 simcop2387: did you notice that the symlink in rc0.d and rc6.d for save-rtc.sh is wrong? It should be K26save-rtc.sh not S26save-rtc.sh Sep 26 12:18:57 hrw|work: did you complete your earlier checkin with linux-oz_2.6.17 as Im having trouble with .dd having v4 of the ids patch Sep 26 12:19:40 moment Sep 26 12:21:35 simcop2387: nm, I was wrong, it is correct. :/ Sep 26 12:22:03 XorA: thx. fixed Sep 26 12:22:11 hrw|work: cool Sep 26 12:22:37 03hrw 07org.oe.dev * r8e21cbd2... 10/ (4 files in 2 dirs): linux-oz: s/r4/r5/ on hrw-pcmcia patch Sep 26 12:26:11 cu Sep 26 12:39:51 XorA: technically, yes Sep 26 12:40:32 XorA: The SerialIO people got away without that using some resistors for the 5V models (i.e. not cxx00). I suspect the serial on poodle is missing some locomo code Sep 26 12:40:50 03blaster8 07org.oe.dev * r60a1e838... 10/ (13 files in 6 dirs): Sep 26 12:40:50 ixp4xx-npe: Add automatic byte-swapping for LE firmware load Sep 26 12:40:50 mdev: Update loadmicrocode.sh Sep 26 12:46:04 RP: so if I got the techies here to make somethuing like this? http://www.pdaxrom.org/node/92 Sep 26 13:01:26 XorA: It would work fine. Can I have one too? :) Sep 26 13:01:49 XorA: You still might need to fix the locomo driver in poodle Sep 26 13:04:49 RP: ok, but having working cable would be helpful Sep 26 13:05:29 hrw|work: biff Sep 26 13:05:32 zecke: biff Sep 26 13:08:02 XorA: yes :) Sep 26 13:12:43 XorA: if you are going to work on s3c24xx, have a chat with prpplague Sep 26 13:12:48 ~seen prpplague Sep 26 13:13:13 prpplague is currently on #ol (20m 47s) #edev (20m 47s) #openjtag (20m 47s) #uclibc (20m 47s) #handhelds.org (20m 47s). Has said a total of 2 messages. Is idling for 45s, last said: '~quote scox'. Sep 26 13:15:16 koen: got a real name to go with that nick? Sep 26 13:15:26 XorA: Dave Anders Sep 26 13:15:56 koen: cheers Sep 26 13:16:42 koen: biff what? xbiff? Sep 26 13:16:59 'biff' as in 'you have mail' Sep 26 13:17:54 I knew that Sep 26 13:18:04 I have not read mails since ages as my macbook is still broken Sep 26 13:18:12 I have read a botmail today though Sep 26 13:18:16 I think it was from you Sep 26 13:19:19 zecke: ewi546 is going to be redeployed Sep 26 13:19:30 koen: oh :( Sep 26 13:19:36 indeed Sep 26 13:19:44 and I should get my stuff off this machine then Sep 26 13:20:43 I'm trying to keep it, but it doesn't look like I will succeed :( Sep 26 13:28:43 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r300063bb... 10/ (31 files in 5 dirs): Sep 26 13:28:43 dbus: move obsolete versions (0.20 - 0.61) to packages/obsolete/dbus Sep 26 13:28:43 * rebuild dbus and apps dependant on it Sep 26 13:41:48 koen: ;( Sep 26 13:44:40 zecke: http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2006/09/24/akademy-2006-day-1 Sep 26 13:45:03 my eyes!!!!!! Sep 26 13:45:57 koen: George is a moron, I have proof for that Sep 26 13:46:16 koen: Oh I'm so kewl, I just use Haret, a pre compiled kernel Sep 26 13:46:32 koen: I have too much money to spend on geek toys, but don't do any coding :} Sep 26 13:46:34 zecke: but he's so funny ... Sep 26 13:47:02 someone google decided to kick us out of their office at nine o'clock Sep 26 13:48:40 zecke: is he another 'pavel machek' kind of man? Sep 26 13:50:21 hrw|work: no, Pavel actually knows stuff Sep 26 13:50:34 hrw|work: George is, well a journeyer Sep 26 13:50:47 ah Sep 26 13:51:45 hrw|work: no just a 18 years old really mixed up boy ... doesn't seems to be past the "girls have cooties" stage Sep 26 13:53:05 zecke: can't remember the number of time I gave him pointer on programming ... Sep 26 13:54:17 cooties? Sep 26 13:54:19 hrw|work: when will pavel learn to recognize an overfilled root partition? Sep 26 13:54:30 koen: ask him Sep 26 13:54:51 hrw|work: cooties are imaginary bugs girls have Sep 26 13:55:28 thx for translation Sep 26 13:55:40 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooties Sep 26 14:00:52 undergrads have cooties Sep 26 14:02:05 ~quote scox Sep 26 14:02:08 SCOX: 1.75 (1.78/1.72), 9/26/2006 10:04am, Opened 1.72, Volume 18,675, Change +0.06 Sep 26 14:06:03 ~lart spectrum-fw build Sep 26 14:06:03 * ibot breaks out the Hoover and sucks up spectrum-fw build Sep 26 14:06:46 why does it fetch firmware during configure? Sep 26 14:11:41 XorA: I suspect spectrum-fw was my fault :-/ Sep 26 14:12:10 RP: heh heh, it would be ok, but wolfson proxy seems to block it Sep 26 14:15:06 cant we add results into metadata? Sep 26 14:15:12 or mirror it somewhere? Sep 26 14:16:40 RP: like your emails, xmms-mad/xmms-tremor/xmms have the RDEPENDS/DEPEND circular at the moment, it would be nice to see that fixed Sep 26 14:17:07 RP: looking at DEPENDS at task level its nice and solvable Sep 26 14:22:22 hrw|work: I'm not sure about the licence on spectrum-fw :-/ Sep 26 14:22:42 XorA: Yes, its no big problem, just needs someone to spend some time on splitting up the packaging task Sep 26 14:24:53 hrw|work: http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/openzaurus/ Sep 26 14:26:21 * koen looks at http://zaurus.daemons.gr/menaie/openzaurus/mkzgcc.sh and cries Sep 26 14:26:35 echo "... unpacking $i" Sep 26 14:26:36 ar -x $PKGDIR/$i data.tar.gz 2>/dev/null Sep 26 14:26:36 zcat $ZGCC_ROOT/data.tar.gz|tar xvf - -C $ZGCC_ROOT/build >/dev/null Sep 26 14:27:00 "how to become clueless about package management - part I" Sep 26 14:27:37 BTW: IceCream rocks! Sep 26 14:28:01 koen: interesting Sep 26 14:35:39 koen: The packages list is obviously OE derived :) Sep 26 14:37:24 RP: it is :) Sep 26 14:37:30 ~hail sockisfy Sep 26 14:37:33 * ibot bows down to sockisfy and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" Sep 26 14:37:38 the script would be a lot simpler if Sep 26 14:37:49 a) it would use package names instead of filenames Sep 26 14:37:57 b) would use ipkg -o Sep 26 14:38:12 /home/hrw Sep 26 14:39:12 koen: has anyone already investigated in why the 32-bit builds differ from the 64-bit builds (in terms of diff'ing the generated binaries)? Sep 26 14:39:40 likewise: iirc yes Sep 26 14:39:41 not that I know Sep 26 14:39:58 ~spell Netherlands Sep 26 14:40:01 'Netherlands' may be spelled correctly Sep 26 14:40:09 pb_(_) had people disassemble the binaries Sep 26 14:40:27 likewise: People started to but never came to a good conclusion. It would be good to know Sep 26 14:40:28 This new audioslave album rocks Sep 26 14:40:59 rp: hmmm, I ran out of diskspace trying to install a 32-bit environment for that test... grr Sep 26 14:41:41 did openslug 3.10 suffer from this (because that's a nice old test set)? Sep 26 14:43:02 koen: time for you to start #oe.radio Sep 26 14:44:15 XorA: faith no more also rocks, kudos to your wife for reminding me :) Sep 26 14:46:26 koen: you google stalker :-) Sep 26 14:47:01 koen: she is forever bitter that she is 5 years too young to have grown up when all the cool rock bands were big Sep 26 14:48:54 XorA: you mean bands like deep purple? Sep 26 14:49:25 koen: I love faith no more, what audioslave album do you mean? Sep 26 14:49:43 koen: sabbath, metallica, bon jovi, aerosmith, etc etc Sep 26 14:50:10 likewise: revelations Sep 26 14:50:21 koen: ok, tnx Sep 26 14:50:48 wow mtn 0.30 is out Sep 26 14:51:11 zecke: yes, have a look in http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/ Sep 26 14:51:18 zecke: I spent whole day re rostifying database Sep 26 14:52:01 zecke: I built pre-built monotone binaries (.deb) for ubuntu-amd64. there are on the venge.org website already. Sep 26 14:52:44 my girlie surprised me with a motorcycle lesson yesterday Sep 26 14:52:48 likewise: I have a icecream cluster here :) Sep 26 14:53:03 zecke: huh? Sep 26 14:53:25 likewise: icecream is distcc on steroids Sep 26 14:53:36 anyone else see zlib-native not staging zlib.h? Sep 26 14:53:38 likewise: at aKademy, we have about 20-60 CPUs to spare Sep 26 14:53:40 with a nice monitor :) Sep 26 14:53:59 * likewise mumbles... 'where was I during my graduation project....' Sep 26 14:54:05 chouimat: I have heard teambuilder is more nice Sep 26 14:54:21 XorA: similar problems, libz.la not staged. Sep 26 14:54:44 XorA: happens on only one of my build hosts, both are amd64 ubuntu.... Sep 26 14:54:55 zecke: it's different ... I think it use less cpu ... Sep 26 14:55:02 likewise: i686 ubuntu here Sep 26 14:55:05 zecke: the immendio dudes have a patches jpeg package with a libtool update to unbreak it Sep 26 14:55:18 patched* Sep 26 14:55:32 koen: I have missed it was broken, wow I'm out of loop Sep 26 14:55:44 zecke: http://developer.imendio.com/projects/gtk-macosx/build-instructions Sep 26 14:55:57 out of loop error, that's what I suffer from also. Sep 26 14:56:03 "Note: The reason the script downloads a modified version of libjpeg is because the released tarball has a too old libtool version that can't make a dynamic library on OS X. The only change is an updated libtool." Sep 26 14:56:53 zecke: I also bought a firewire HD so I can do OE builds on osx Sep 26 14:57:13 AHHH Sep 26 14:57:22 macbook == broken == life sucks Sep 26 14:57:40 likewise: I added do_stage from zlib_1.2.3 to zlib-native_1.2.3 and that seems to fix it Sep 26 14:57:45 * florian_kc hands zecke an old thinkpad Sep 26 14:58:06 * koen hands florian_kc and zecke a fire-extinguisher Sep 26 14:58:19 XorA: to be absolutely clear (because I am a OE moron): you plain copied the zlib_1.2.3 do_stage() to zlib_native (.bb) Sep 26 14:58:31 likewise: yes Sep 26 14:58:36 XorA: :-) thanks Sep 26 14:59:14 likewise: I suspect thats a "hack" though Sep 26 14:59:23 real 3m37.031s Sep 26 14:59:23 user 2m19.921s Sep 26 14:59:23 sys 0m14.429s Sep 26 14:59:29 time needed to compile mtn 0.30 Sep 26 15:00:45 hmm, 0.30 worth it? Sep 26 15:01:04 chouimat: you need to regenerate a cache (which takes tiiiiime) Sep 26 15:01:12 Crofton: you need to regenerate a cache (which takes tiiiiime) Sep 26 15:01:26 but only once? Sep 26 15:01:45 yes Sep 26 15:01:53 and netsync is compatible Sep 26 15:02:00 ok Sep 26 15:02:04 so you can use netsync 0.30 on the server and 0.26 on the client Sep 26 15:02:10 or 0.26 client and 0.30 server Sep 26 15:02:27 koen: How about removing old handhelds-pxa-2.6 versions? like 2.6.8? Sep 26 15:03:27 psokolovsky: go ahead Sep 26 15:04:03 or you download http://www.openembedded.org/snapshots/OE-this-is-for-mtn-0.30.mtn.bz2 Sep 26 15:04:16 koen, ok. I know, there're people who still use 2.6.12 kernel. So, I'll delete up to that. Sep 26 15:05:01 note that mtn 0.31 will feature a similar change to the db which agains speeds up initial pull Sep 26 15:05:41 0.30 makes pulling ~40% faster Sep 26 15:06:08 it's all in the release notes :) Sep 26 15:06:11 hey lamikr Sep 26 15:07:31 hi koen Sep 26 15:13:17 03pfalcon 07org.oe.dev * r8f247360... 10/ (7 files in 2 dirs): Sep 26 15:13:17 handhelds-pxa-2.6: Remove old versions. Sep 26 15:13:17 * Familiar 0.8.4 was on 2.6.15. Sep 26 15:13:17 * But there are people who still use 2.6.12. Sep 26 15:13:17 * So, remove pre-2.6.12 (left one 2.6.11 bb just in case). Sep 26 15:13:17 * Approved by koen. Sep 26 15:13:40 njs: your test-coverage page is broken Sep 26 15:13:46 heh - approved by koen Sep 26 15:13:47 njs: or do you only have 0% covered? Sep 26 15:15:43 CosmicPenguin, yep, I'd prefer such things as dropping kernel .bb's or other core component go thru explicit approval by one of core maintainers. Sep 26 15:16:38 but koen? Sep 26 15:16:42 we could be like kernel fanboys and require stuff like Sep 26 15:16:44 :) Sep 26 15:16:59 farted-on-by: Koen Sep 26 15:18:09 CosmicPenguin, koen: ah yep, I usually write full name, but got caught among few things, and typed irc nick ;-) sorry Sep 26 15:18:11 SOB etc? Sep 26 15:18:15 +1 from me Sep 26 15:19:14 hrw|work: 'mtn approve ' Sep 26 15:20:34 koen: when I look at packages/random/files/random.patch I like to see who did patch and why Sep 26 15:21:09 hrw|work: mtn approve will attach a cert to that revision Sep 26 15:22:34 hrw|work, let's hope mtn log will soon become fully usable to let do that easily Sep 26 15:24:20 psokolovsky: 0.31 addresses that with the new 'heights' stuff Sep 26 15:24:31 ok Sep 26 15:24:41 and 0.32 will probably address it again with the 'uncommon ancestor' stuff Sep 26 15:31:17 cu Sep 26 15:32:54 RP: two questions: Sep 26 15:33:10 RP: what's the state of the devgen stuff in poky? Sep 26 15:33:24 RP: did you manage to fill in the devmand svn repo yet? Sep 26 15:35:07 The devgen stuff in poky was merged from the branch into poky and is functional. I want to merge it into OE but need to abstract it a class for packaged staging use. That isn't needed for poky so is something I'll have to do on my own time Sep 26 15:35:22 and no, devmand hasn't happened yet - just lack of time Sep 26 15:35:35 My brother's house is going to impact a lot on my hacking time :-( Sep 26 15:36:27 RP needs colin & justin to help with his brothers house ;) Sep 26 15:36:57 hehe Sep 26 15:37:16 how many Brits are here anyway? :p Sep 26 15:39:02 later Sep 26 15:41:50 blaster8: afaik me, RP, XorA, maybe more Sep 26 15:42:15 +mallum, cwiiiiiiiiis Sep 26 15:42:38 koen: ah, I forgot :) Sep 26 15:43:15 hi folks. has anyone with an Akita noticed that their CF slot stopped working (like, cards don't even turn on) after upgrading to OZ 3.5.4.1? yes, I know this is not an OZ support channel, but no one talks in there. /msg me if you know what I'm talking about, please. thanks. Sep 26 15:46:41 * ade|desk hides in Norfolk during the day and Cambs by night Sep 26 15:47:11 Cambs or Cam? Sep 26 15:47:38 Cambs, nr Ely Sep 26 15:47:50 Cool, nice place Sep 26 15:47:53 bit flat though Sep 26 15:48:04 lol understatement Sep 26 15:49:23 pH5: http://galathilion.livejournal.com/85187.html Sep 26 15:52:44 right hometime Sep 26 16:12:52 ~seen fluff Sep 26 16:13:28 fluff was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 270d 54m 33s ago, saying: 'rod: what is your question?'. Sep 26 16:13:52 lrg: just put some samsung SoCs on your sill and the dooks fairy will come your way Sep 26 16:14:32 koen: they are on my sill, he may be on vacation atm Sep 26 16:14:59 koen: btw how is nbp ? Sep 26 16:15:10 lrg: 44 days of uptime Sep 26 16:15:30 koen: excelllent :) Sep 26 16:15:54 03tmbinc 07org.oe.dreambox * rbb2fb1b2... 10/ (1 packages/enigma2/enigma2.bb): enigma2: the integrated movie player needs gst-plugin-mpegstream, update to 20060926 Sep 26 16:15:58 but simtec doesn't respond to my mails about the copyright status of the patch, and I don't have the tools to build a kernel-image Sep 26 16:16:38 I should poke Philippe to build 2.6.9/EABI Sep 26 16:17:29 koen: most of it should be in mainline by now. Sep 26 16:17:46 lrg: except machine support and pcon Sep 26 16:18:05 koen: pcon :-/ Sep 26 16:18:07 the pcon stuff needs a rewrite for the new i2c infrastructure Sep 26 16:21:35 lrg: sd, pcmcia, cpufreq, audio, video and usb should be present in mainline Sep 26 16:22:40 koen: touch will be soon Sep 26 16:24:46 lrg: I suspect XorA will drool over any nbps left at wolfsson ;) Sep 26 16:25:06 koen: you have the last ones :) Sep 26 16:25:24 * koen increases security Sep 26 16:26:23 heh Sep 26 16:26:33 I did receive another pcmcia -> cf type 2 converter today so I can put a microdrive in the devboard Sep 26 16:27:18 koen: cool, it should be a good for native build Sep 26 16:28:33 I did find out that distcc is not working well in OZ Sep 26 16:30:17 koen: how so? Sep 26 16:32:32 kergoth: it has trouble finding gcc, and when it does it errors out will compile errors Sep 26 16:32:45 I tested it with hello.c Sep 26 16:33:22 I didn't try the updated version I added to .dev Sep 26 16:35:20 a+ Sep 26 16:38:38 meh Sep 26 16:38:48 I should write down more stuff Sep 26 16:39:03 * koen suddenly sees the point of lab journals Sep 26 16:39:03 koen: thanks for the pointer :) Sep 26 16:40:17 pH5: the xcb dudes needed a release to get in to X11R7.2 Sep 26 16:41:01 7.2 is looking sweet, but I fear the new RandR stuff will break with kdrive and/or pdas Sep 26 16:42:11 I hope 7.2 will have working xcalibrate* foo Sep 26 16:42:19 ~nbp Sep 26 16:42:58 hvontres|poodle: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/koen/cms/netbookpro-s Sep 26 16:43:09 koen: I didn't follow development closely. Any exciting news besides working xcalib and possibly not working xrandr? Sep 26 16:43:32 a lot of bugfixes Sep 26 16:43:37 koen: ahh :) Sep 26 16:44:24 pH5: I'm working on a machine file for my desktop (tyan 2462 mainboard) to test angstrom/x86 Sep 26 16:44:48 7.2 seems to have better support for ATI cards Sep 26 16:45:28 * hvontres|poodle goes searching ebay for nbps... Sep 26 16:47:24 cool, my olde laptop has a M9. But I guess that doesn't include imageon yet :) Sep 26 16:56:23 * XorA|gone wonders if lrg is hiding stuff from him Sep 26 17:01:46 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r0934fe98... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): libxcb, xcb-proto: add 0.9.91 (1.0 RC1) Sep 26 17:01:52 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * re50c88a2... 10/ (1 packages/xcb/libxcb_0.9.91.bb): libxcb-0.9.91: correct library naming, stop splitting dev package Sep 26 17:01:59 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r6925fd8e... 10/ (1 conf/machine/include/tune-athlonmp.conf): tune-athonmp: tune from athlon MP cpus Sep 26 17:02:06 03koen 07org.oe.dev * r090b60f3... 10/ (1 conf/machine/guinness.conf): guinness.conf: machine description for computers containing a tyan 2462 mainboard Sep 26 17:02:13 03koen 07org.oe.dev * rffd7294f... 10/ (3 files in 3 dirs): linux-x86: add a rudimentary config for the guinness machine Sep 26 17:05:55 mornign Sep 26 17:07:08 I'm tring to build glib-2.0 as it it required by several packages and I keep getting the following error during build: gconvert.c:47:2: #error GNU libiconv not in use but included iconv.h is from libiconv Sep 26 17:08:53 Gerrath: do you have USE_NLS=no or build uclibc? Sep 26 17:09:31 hrw, I'm using glibc and not uclibc. What is USE_NLS=no? Sep 26 17:10:00 Gerrath: do not remember now exactly Sep 26 17:10:24 hrw, were do I set it? Sep 26 17:10:51 if not set then do not touch rather Sep 26 17:12:48 hrw, any other ideas why it won't compile? I guess I can try a fresh OE build.. Sep 26 17:13:13 no idea now Sep 26 17:13:44 Gerrath: that indicates that you've built libiconv, which overwrote the C library's iconv.h. dont build libiconv unless you're using uclibc Sep 26 17:13:47 if i recall correctly anyway Sep 26 17:13:50 that stuff was unpleasant Sep 26 17:14:17 kergoth, so how can I undo it if that is what happened? Rebuild glibc? Sep 26 17:14:22 kergoth: should not libiconv have check 'if glibc then skip'? Sep 26 17:15:15 probably, afaik currently it just doesnt get added to the deps Sep 26 17:15:18 Gerrath: yep Sep 26 17:15:33 hrw: cant wait for packaged staging ;) Sep 26 17:17:16 kergoth, what is packaged staging? Sep 26 17:22:00 its an effort to make the staging area managed by a package management system, so things lke one package overwriting another's files wont be allowed Sep 26 17:33:52 03kristoffer 07org.oe.dev * r2b6edbb6... 10/ (1 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf): Sep 26 17:33:52 conf/distro/jlime-donkey.conf : Remove glibc-intermediate providers Sep 26 17:33:52 * Remove due to "spam" at buildtime. Sep 26 17:36:24 kergoth, that is great! I'm just so impressed with the state of OE. I'm hoping to put together a demo and present it to as many companies as possible in my area (Pittsburg, PA). I want to be an OE preacher :-p Sep 26 17:37:01 Woot! Another Pittsburgher :) Sep 26 17:37:21 hi JoseJX2 Sep 26 17:37:25 hi hrw Sep 26 17:38:33 ~spell satisfactionable Sep 26 17:38:35 possible spellings for satisfactionable: satisfaction able satisfaction-able satisfactions satisfaction satisfaction's Sep 26 17:40:00 zecke: it does that sometimes... if you wait a bit it will have numbers again :-) Sep 26 17:41:01 JoseJX, are you a student or do you work in the area? Sep 26 17:41:19 Gerrath: Grad student at Pitt Sep 26 17:41:43 JoseJX2: collie user? Sep 26 17:42:03 JoseJX2, I just started to look into the Pitt grad program.. I'm a Penn State Alumni so its been a hard migration :-p Sep 26 17:42:05 * mrz80 is away: Metaphysically I'm still here; physically, I'm elsewhere Sep 26 17:42:19 hrw: I just got a 5000D. Sep 26 17:42:32 hrw: I'm not sure if RP told you, but I'm documenting the SD/MMC slot driver Sep 26 17:42:43 Gerrath: heh, understandable :) Sep 26 17:42:52 JoseJX2: I got mail Sep 26 17:43:10 http://josejx.net/collie/ Sep 26 17:43:32 That's where the specs will end up, I've started documenting now that I'm mostly done translating Sep 26 17:43:57 JoseJX2: translating? Sep 26 17:44:39 hrw: I translated all of the ARM assembly into C by hand so I can understand it better. Sep 26 17:44:46 ah Sep 26 17:44:49 hrw: I basically have the source to the 2.4 driver in C now. :p Sep 26 17:45:19 tried to use it instead of binary one? :D Sep 26 17:45:44 hrw: No, not yet. It's not 100% compilable yet, but I could... Sep 26 17:45:46 :) Sep 26 17:46:35 Actually, maybe you can explain this Sep 26 17:46:54 In sharp_char, they use ioctl 0x5680-0x5682 for LEDs Sep 26 17:47:13 I'm not familiar with 2.4-crapix Sep 26 17:47:13 In this driver they use the same ioctl for some of the SD bus control. Sep 26 17:47:18 That doesn't make sense :p Sep 26 17:47:22 heh, okay, nm then Sep 26 17:48:12 * mrz80 is back (gone 00:06:07) Sep 26 17:48:29 Well, my goal is to get 2.6 running on my collie, so, hopefully crapix will go away sooner rather than later :) Sep 26 17:48:46 JoseJX2: tried OZ 3.5.4.2 image? Sep 26 17:50:37 hrw: I think it's running 3.5.4 Sep 26 17:50:46 hrw: I haven't flashed it in a while Sep 26 17:50:58 JoseJX2: 3.5.4.2 is 2.6 powered experimental Sep 26 17:51:03 Then no Sep 26 17:51:10 I need my SD slot Sep 26 17:51:19 RP: ping Sep 26 17:51:25 :p Sep 26 17:51:25 Only 32MB of ram with a dead backup battery Sep 26 17:51:37 ah.. Sep 26 17:51:45 So I use the ram for volatile, SD for storage Sep 26 17:51:53 I have a wifi card for the CF slot Sep 26 17:52:26 JoseJX2: we probably can find unused 5500 Sep 26 17:52:41 It's okay, I'm otherwise happy with my 5000D. Sep 26 17:53:06 I just need to buy a new backup battery at some point and find the time to solder it in :) Sep 26 17:53:08 hi xora Sep 26 17:53:18 JoseJX2: no need to solder Sep 26 17:53:27 JoseJX2: and most of collie lack that battery Sep 26 17:53:31 Oh really? That's much easier then Sep 26 17:53:35 Hmm really? Sep 26 17:54:03 I thought that losing the data on reset was a symptom of a dead battery Sep 26 17:54:43 data from flash or mtdram? Sep 26 17:54:53 ramdisk Sep 26 17:55:03 Isn't it supposed to have a battery backup for that? Sep 26 17:55:25 * JoseJX2 doesn't really know Sep 26 17:55:35 I haven't looked into it all that much Sep 26 17:56:58 JoseJX2: you're probbably better off using the RAM as RAM anyways Sep 26 17:57:19 hvontres|poodle: Yep, that's the conclusion I came to as well. :) Sep 26 17:57:26 32MB isn't all that much anyway Sep 26 17:58:50 JoseJX2: If I remember correctly, the 5000D still uses SMD RAM chips, so in theory, it could be upgraded with only minor pain, As opposed to a 5500 or newer machine, which all use BGA's Sep 26 17:59:47 hvontres|poodle: I'll have to open it and see :) Sep 26 18:00:41 JoseJX2: http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=368 for backup battery Sep 26 18:00:54 JoseJX2: and http://www.oesf.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=11337 Sep 26 18:03:13 Cool, thanks Sep 26 18:04:39 sometimes 9h time diff helps Sep 26 18:06:23 hmmm Sep 26 18:06:46 * koen hits a subtle bug with 'target is almost host' Sep 26 18:06:52 * koen stabs i686-linux Sep 26 18:07:38 koen: i always set TARGET_VENDOR just in case arch/os of build matches target, want to make damn sure autoconf doesnt think its native when it isnt Sep 26 18:07:41 heh Sep 26 18:08:16 would I be correct in thinking m4 autconf macros may look in /usr/... and cause problems with OE? Sep 26 18:08:50 shouldnt. autoconf-native was built with a prefix in staging Sep 26 18:09:21 I am thinking the problem is stuff theat ends up in aclocal.d Sep 26 18:10:11 hmm.. my gfx card lost xvideo ;( Sep 26 18:10:42 mplayer -zoom -xy 1280 -vo x11 is not daemon of speed.. Sep 26 18:10:44 hi leoncamel Sep 26 18:11:33 hrw, hey Sep 26 18:11:36 hrw, so. what are you talk about ? mplayer on arm ? Sep 26 18:12:29 leoncamel: no - on my x86 desktop my gfxcard lost xvideo - just show blue window Sep 26 18:13:14 hrw, remote login and play video ? Sep 26 18:13:31 leoncamel: no Sep 26 18:14:17 hrw, :). no idea . Sep 26 18:26:49 kergoth: that's the problem, target-vendor is set Sep 26 18:27:03 kergoth: but it looks like multimachine.bbclass doesn't include it Sep 26 18:27:13 (haven't looked at it, just guessing) Sep 26 18:34:00 ~poky Sep 26 18:34:22 i heard poky is http://projects.o-hand.com/poky, or a subset of OpenEmbedded, created by o-hand.com to testdrive some of their technology Sep 26 18:43:21 hrw: ewi is going to be moved to a new lab soon, so it will be down for some hours Sep 26 18:43:34 koen: noticed Sep 26 18:43:44 hrw: but thanks to bureaucracy I get to keep it for a while :) Sep 26 18:43:48 koen: have to think how to resolve OZ feeds now Sep 26 18:44:08 and where to put that 7G of stuff. Sep 26 18:44:08 good evening #oe ! Sep 26 18:44:09 doesn't feeds.hentges.net cover that? Sep 26 18:44:13 hey cyrilRomain Sep 26 18:44:20 hi koen Sep 26 18:44:40 koen: it do but cannot be used as primary machine Sep 26 18:44:53 koen: bandwidth costs Sep 26 18:44:56 hi cyrilRomain Sep 26 18:45:24 koen: too bad that company where I work has problems with storage now.. Sep 26 18:45:57 koen: if not that then I would probably be able to get some GB there and no transfer limits maybe even Sep 26 18:46:53 zecke and I want to get a new colo box Sep 26 18:46:59 most likely under the ltg banner Sep 26 18:47:52 ~lart being non-profit Sep 26 18:47:52 * ibot acting on orders from an unspecified client drags being non-profit into court suing for $200 million Sep 26 18:48:09 it looks like ewi will be up till OEDEM, so we can discuss it there Sep 26 18:51:14 koen: ahh Sep 26 18:51:40 koen: maybe it should just use TARGET_SYS then Sep 26 18:51:42 * kergoth shrugs Sep 26 18:51:51 hi kergoth Sep 26 18:54:22 hey Sep 26 18:57:25 * chouimat is listening to "Seemann" by Die Apokalyptischen Reiter on Riders on the Storm Digipak [Amarok] Sep 26 18:59:21 cu all Sep 26 19:20:00 03blaster8 07org.oe.dev * rf6d01778... 10/ (1 packages/linux/ixp4xx-kernel_2.6.18.bb): ixp4xx-kernel: Bump to latest SVN for LE fix Sep 26 19:20:06 03blaster8 07org.oe.dev * r39de275a... 10/ (6 files in 4 dirs): Sep 26 19:20:06 mdev: Add proper firmware loading support to mdev Sep 26 19:20:06 * Patch contributed by Christian Hohnstaedt Sep 26 19:20:06 * mdev.conf updated to reflect change in firmware loading Sep 26 19:32:31 * koen wonders what http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=2b6edbb63b17a950a2044fb6ffe7f9a42bdc903d is supposed to achieve Sep 26 20:10:13 hrw|gone: pong Sep 26 20:13:42 Sigh - we could really use GIT targets for all the X stuff Sep 26 20:14:19 I keep getting complaints that the Geode driver isn't working for 7.2 Sep 26 20:27:01 CosmicPenguin: feel free to add them :) Sep 26 20:28:30 thanks Sep 26 20:28:38 ~lart my firewall Sep 26 20:28:38 * ibot beats my firewall senseless with a 50lb Unix manual Sep 26 20:28:50 ~lart projects that don't make development snapshots Sep 26 20:28:50 * ibot makes a balloon animal out of projects that don't make development snapshots Sep 26 20:29:09 I can only do HTTP GIT Sep 26 20:29:13 which limits me greatly Sep 26 20:30:27 especially, lart X for not providing development snapshots Sep 26 20:30:42 does our git fetcher understand http git? Sep 26 20:31:34 looks like it Sep 26 20:31:48 lets see if it works Sep 26 20:32:14 you could fetch a git tree at home and throw the tarball our way and use that as SRC_URI Sep 26 20:32:28 yeah - but thats always so messy Sep 26 20:32:39 at least it's predictable... Sep 26 20:32:53 but only as predictable as I am Sep 26 20:33:00 there's something to be said for pulling "official" sources Sep 26 20:33:07 true Sep 26 20:33:31 except when 'official' means 'darcs using hippies' Sep 26 20:34:12 koen, who might that be? Sep 26 20:35:05 Crofton: any project that uses darcs :) Sep 26 20:35:07 "The display in the hardware is based off of the Geode GX2. One of the folks at AMD has written an EXA driver for the hardware" Sep 26 20:35:14 * CosmicPenguin looks around Sep 26 20:35:25 Those bastards! Sep 26 20:35:44 Thats AMD for you - always doing something stupid Sep 26 20:36:08 " in order to hit our targets for operating system footprint (100MB of flash used) we need to remove a lot of unused bits from the set of packages we’re including." Sep 26 20:36:14 poor redhat people Sep 26 20:36:20 koen: how did you get your hands on that blog engry? Sep 26 20:36:24 s/engry/entry/ Sep 26 20:36:26 ? Sep 26 20:36:33 planet.gnome.org Sep 26 20:36:49 Wow - they are fast Sep 26 20:36:59 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=222 Sep 26 20:37:04 hahah Sep 26 20:37:10 Yeah - he just posted that like 5 minutes ago in #olpc Sep 26 20:39:03 I hit 'refresh' in my news reader a few minutes ago :) Sep 26 20:39:12 '100MB might sound like a pretty low number but we’re pretty sure we can make that.' Sep 26 20:39:20 heh Sep 26 20:39:40 I distinctly remember building a uclibc OS that was under 2MB compressed Sep 26 20:39:41 We've been squeezing X + mb + gpe in 14 mb for some time now Sep 26 20:39:47 hehe Sep 26 20:40:00 people have gotten X + mb + custom tools in <8MB Sep 26 20:40:04 heh Sep 26 20:40:09 they are probably not using compression, I bet Sep 26 20:40:13 jffs2 Sep 26 20:40:21 oh they are, good :) Sep 26 20:40:30 still JFFS2 is mighty slow on big disks Sep 26 20:40:42 they have patches for that Sep 26 20:41:03 dwmw2 got a board sometime ago Sep 26 20:41:03 And we have the MTD god on our side Sep 26 20:41:17 around the time the yaffs2 people were trying to get their stuff into the kernel Sep 26 20:41:30 The redhat image has lots of junk in t Sep 26 20:41:31 ~impressed Sep 26 20:41:32 it Sep 26 20:41:35 for example - perl Sep 26 20:41:42 and python Sep 26 20:41:46 he Sep 26 20:41:47 h Sep 26 20:41:51 well - python isn't going anywhere Sep 26 20:41:58 for better or worse Sep 26 20:42:19 i wish someone would build something capable based on scons Sep 26 20:42:31 scons is too low level, everybody ends up implementing shit in thieir own way, so nothing is standard Sep 26 20:42:35 meh Sep 26 20:42:36 CosmicPenguin: hehe Sep 26 20:42:46 CosmicPenguin: they are investigating where perl comes from ;) Sep 26 20:42:50 kergoth: that's why kde dumped it and switched to cmake Sep 26 20:42:54 * kergoth nods Sep 26 20:42:57 sugar has an obscene number of dependancies Sep 26 20:42:58 that one, waf, looked promising Sep 26 20:43:02 havent checked it out in a while though Sep 26 20:43:44 http://public.kitware.com/Dart/HTML/Index.shtml has some nice buzzwords as well Sep 26 20:44:04 koen: are you at aKademy as well? Sep 26 20:44:07 waf makes me think of frank herberts Dune Sep 26 20:44:19 who is this Jordan Crouse person .... Sep 26 20:44:33 Crofton: CosmicPenguin = Jordan Crouse Sep 26 20:44:39 :) Sep 26 20:45:00 He's a dick Sep 26 20:45:15 talking to redhat people and everything Sep 26 20:45:27 I have been secretly running OE images the whole time Sep 26 20:45:28 approximatly how much power do zaurii/ipaq's consume power when idling with linux? Sep 26 20:46:10 suihkulokki: with or without lcd+backlight? Sep 26 20:46:40 "too much" probably, since they're using xscales Sep 26 20:46:44 koen: either way Sep 26 20:47:11 I remember RP doing some tests Sep 26 20:47:31 100 mA comes to mind, but I don't now wether that's full load or idling Sep 26 20:47:50 (and yes, mA isn't power, I know) Sep 26 20:48:19 that's with 3.3V ? so it would be about 330mW Sep 26 20:48:30 4.7 iirc Sep 26 20:50:25 roger Sep 26 20:51:42 OLPC people are reporting that their system has reached "only 3W" consumption when idling Sep 26 20:52:10 they do have a bigger screen Sep 26 20:52:41 http://www.0xdeadbeef.com/weblog/?p=222 Sep 26 20:53:14 My measurements are higher,but I have this power sapping dcon FPGA on mine Sep 26 20:54:16 CosmicPenguin: are you still using OE to build the bios? Sep 26 20:54:23 no Sep 26 20:54:42 ah, too bad Sep 26 20:54:44 http://dev.laptop.org/git.do?p=users/jcrouse/buildrom;a=summary Sep 26 20:54:56 OE is too heavy for the BIOS Sep 26 20:55:42 CosmicPenguin: hmm I should have given you a minimal OE :( Sep 26 20:56:02 Its just not that complicated Sep 26 20:56:27 we don't need dependancy tracking or a solid variable namespace Sep 26 20:57:05 trust me- I would have used bitbake if we had needed it Sep 26 20:57:06 I'm only asking since my workstation is supposed to have linuxbios support as well Sep 26 20:57:23 I believe that ray pushed up a LB target Sep 26 20:57:34 Its probably possible to put together something with OE Sep 26 20:58:06 CosmicPenguin: http://www.openembedded.org/viewmtn/revision.psp?id=090b60f3cd2b37a02d6dd0e3e8f854462cd2ea1e Sep 26 20:59:21 seeing that ubuntu managed to break my "long term support" install of dapper twice in the past month, I'm seriously considering running and OE built distro Sep 26 20:59:24 koen: hmm - I don't see 2462 in LB Sep 26 20:59:38 [jcrouse:mainboard]$ ls tyan/ Sep 26 20:59:38 s2735 s2875 s2881 s2885 s2892 s4880 Sep 26 20:59:38 s2850 s2880 s2882 s2891 s2895 s4882 Sep 26 20:59:41 it was supported by LB a few years ago Sep 26 20:59:48 Oh - did they drop it? Sep 26 21:00:03 thats stupid Sep 26 21:00:07 hold on - I was in a dumb area Sep 26 21:00:30 It must be similar to something else Sep 26 21:00:47 http://www.mail-archive.com/linuxbios@listman.lanl.gov/msg04985.html Sep 26 21:01:24 oh, we suck Sep 26 21:01:46 2462 = "thunder K7" Sep 26 21:02:30 running and OE build 'distro' inside my bios chip would be 1337 Sep 26 21:02:41 (pardon my speech) Sep 26 21:03:05 No - its pretty neat Sep 26 21:03:08 I really like the whole LB idea Sep 26 21:03:34 And the geek in me smiles at the OLPC "bootloader" kexecing a bigger kernel from the small kernel Sep 26 21:08:08 I've been thinking about using some nommu and linuxtiny patches to make a small kernel with uclibc + busybox + kexectools in to the kernel partition in some devices Sep 26 21:08:40 thats just almost exactly what we are doing with olpc Sep 26 21:08:45 insert 'initramfs' somehwere above Sep 26 21:09:32 and bribe some demoscene dudes to make some 3d rotating boot menu Sep 26 21:09:39 3d rotating? Sep 26 21:09:40 heh Sep 26 21:09:45 I'm not nearly that leet Sep 26 21:09:49 my bootmenu only does 2d Sep 26 21:09:50 in ~5k Sep 26 21:10:16 but I might make it do xfig Sep 26 21:11:02 I love the bootloader on my sgi indigo2 machines Sep 26 21:11:17 and the one one my sparc5 is pretty decent as well Sep 26 21:12:01 anyway Sep 26 21:12:05 'night all Sep 26 21:16:32 gah Sep 26 21:16:38 ~lart gentoo Sep 26 21:16:39 * ibot gets a hotmal account and SPAMs gentoo Sep 26 21:18:05 why isn't curl support for git built in automagically? Sep 26 21:20:51 CosmicPenguin: perhaps you didn't set curl in yoru USE flags for git? Sep 26 21:20:57 yeah - but still Sep 26 21:20:59 CosmicPenguin: or perhaps you have -curl somewhere? Sep 26 21:21:03 * JustinP shrugs Sep 26 21:21:05 I shouldn't have to go out of my way to select it Sep 26 21:21:06 easy to fix Sep 26 21:21:23 echo "app-devel/git curl" >> /usr/portage/package.use Sep 26 21:21:24 They're really serious about encouraging the git:// protocol Sep 26 21:21:58 theres a ietf draft for ssh urls, i wonder if curl supports that yet Sep 26 21:23:14 * v8jlene is back Sep 26 21:24:26 wow MontaVista uses directFB Sep 26 21:32:33 03lenehan 07org.oe.documentation * r4c3c0276... 10/ (1 usermanual/reference/var_src_uri.xml): Sep 26 21:32:33 SRC_URI: Support for tar.Z in SRC_URI was added to OE, update the Sep 26 21:32:33 documentation include it as well. Sep 26 21:34:17 hi Sep 26 21:35:53 CosmicPenguin: Did you get sugar running under OE in the end? Sep 26 21:36:54 yeah Sep 26 21:36:55 most of it Sep 26 21:37:03 well - actually Sep 26 21:37:09 I got the login screen... :) Sep 26 21:37:20 The main stuff need avahi - which just wouldn't build for me in OE Sep 26 21:37:26 and I didn't want to dick with it too much more Sep 26 21:37:26 That's good enough for me ;-) Sep 26 21:37:36 Strange, avahi works in poky... Sep 26 21:37:42 I should compare them Sep 26 21:37:47 it might be a x86_64 issue Sep 26 21:38:05 Perhaps. I'm stuck in the past with 32 bit. Safer ;-) Sep 26 21:38:16 Have you waved one of the OE images at the olpc people? Sep 26 21:38:32 no way I'm stirring up that hornet's nest Sep 26 21:38:36 re Sep 26 21:39:02 I got first OE related job ;) Sep 26 21:39:02 CosmicPenguin: I can't say I blame you :-( Sep 26 21:39:10 hrw: congrats :) Sep 26 21:39:32 CosmicPenguin: There's no way some info/an image could slip out? Sep 26 21:41:04 I guess I also have mixed feelings as something the size of redhat could take over and destroy OE Sep 26 21:41:14 There is no reason why the OE or poky metadata can't have an olpc targeted image Sep 26 21:41:16 after all - its open source Sep 26 21:41:31 indeed :) Sep 26 21:41:31 hrw: Congratulations on getting a job for OE stuff... I am asuming it's a paying gig, right? Sep 26 21:41:38 but we're just not going to convince OLPC to dump RH Sep 26 21:41:52 which is probably a good thing in the end - we've got all the RH brains working on OLPC, which is a good thing for the project Sep 26 21:42:05 RP: | ../avahi-common/.libs/libavahi-common.so: undefined reference to `rpl_realloc' Sep 26 21:42:06 CosmicPenguin: Dumping RH wasn't what I had in mind Sep 26 21:42:11 hvontres|poodle: quite nice paying Sep 26 21:42:44 hrw: I guess it's time to save for a nice laptop to replace your athlon headache :) Sep 26 21:43:10 hvontres|poodle: 1000 EUR for cheapest turion64x2 Sep 26 21:43:50 CosmicPenguin: you being amd guy - what do you think about t64x2? Sep 26 21:44:07 CosmicPenguin: google on that Sep 26 21:44:16 re Sep 26 21:44:19 RP: I personally suspect the project is going to die a horribly flaming death at some point, so letting redhat deal with it seems like a good thing :) Sep 26 21:44:21 hrw: I have real trouble recommending AMD parts for mobile Sep 26 21:44:36 midnight - ewi connection broke Sep 26 21:45:12 CosmicPenguin: ok Sep 26 21:45:35 I'm not very satisfied with my laptop Sep 26 21:45:54 ggilbert: I know what you mean :) Sep 26 21:45:58 I'm a company man and all - but I cna't go against the facts Sep 26 21:46:00 CosmicPenguin: neither do I with my desktop Sep 26 21:46:10 Servers? yeah - amd all the awy Sep 26 21:46:22 laptops - there are bettter implementations out there Sep 26 21:46:28 and I say that from a mobile standpoint - power and heat Sep 26 21:46:37 CosmicPenguin, rpl_realloc error can be common crosscompile issue when configure can't run exe's and assume realloc is broken. Sep 26 21:46:39 I was bitten by AMD once too often several years ago :-/ Sep 26 21:46:42 if you are only going to ever keep your laptop on a desk plugged in, then sure, get an AMD part Sep 26 21:47:59 the good point is that familiar-unstable will get less popular soon.. Sep 26 21:48:20 Hrww: why? Sep 26 21:48:52 anyone know how to find out if symbol visibility is implented in a system/binary? Sep 26 21:48:53 RP: celf use it for omap-osk machine Sep 26 21:49:47 Hrww: ah Sep 26 21:50:07 celf must have done their own machine file ... Sep 26 21:51:39 RP: I have to reidentify.. Sep 26 21:51:52 Hrww: ah, ok Sep 26 21:52:42 ahh - ok Sep 26 21:52:46 done Sep 26 21:53:28 the x86 site files haven't been updated with ac_cv_func_realloc_0_nonnull Sep 26 21:55:10 NOTE: package xserver-xorg-1.1.0+git20060906: completed Sep 26 21:55:11 hmm Sep 26 21:58:37 now /me needs avahi-python Sep 26 21:58:39 RP: btw my ping today... Sep 26 21:59:00 RP: I think that machine/distro features will get extended soon Sep 26 21:59:12 RP: s/ext2/internal-cf-storage Sep 26 21:59:30 RP: usb-host usb-gadget usb-wlanng namespaces Sep 26 21:59:56 hrw|work: That's fine, what's there was always intended to be a first draft :) Sep 26 21:59:58 RP: I want also to kill^Wreplace zaurus-clamshell-2.6.conf with zaurus-2.6.conf Sep 26 22:00:18 hrw|work: also fine with me Sep 26 22:00:31 RP: also kill of zaurus-clamshell-2.4.conf and rest of 2.4 for clamshells Sep 26 22:00:58 Once it was for clamshells but that has changes a bit as the other 2.6 ports have caught up. We also have a lot less info in there to worry about now Sep 26 22:01:25 I should try and see if I can make the distro features stuff work for my distro as well. Since I'm doing router/firewall stuff the requirements are a bit different. Sep 26 22:01:32 RP: list of features need to be longer Sep 26 22:02:06 RP: bluetooth -> usb-bluetooth, serial-bluetooth, cf-bluetooth Sep 26 22:02:14 hm.. no. Sep 26 22:02:27 no :) Sep 26 22:02:30 machine feature usb-bluetooth or serial-bluetooth Sep 26 22:02:58 machine which feature pcmcia automatically can get pcmcia-wifi pcmcia-bt pcmcia-serial etc... Sep 26 22:03:14 you could say the same for usb Sep 26 22:03:46 RP: usb-wifi == usb-wlanng usb-zd1211 usb-ralink (and some more follow) Sep 26 22:04:10 big granulity.. Sep 26 22:04:41 hrw|work: The built in wifi modules might be best specified as machine options Sep 26 22:05:12 RP: what if I want to have wifiless distro on tosa? Sep 26 22:05:45 hrw|work: Hmmm. How likely is that? :) Sep 26 22:05:46 RP: machine_features = 'usb-wlanng' but distro_features does not contain 'wifi'... Sep 26 22:06:13 RP: it is possible... Sep 26 22:06:21 If you think that will be a problem, create usb-wlanng Sep 26 22:06:28 RP: I plan to Sep 26 22:07:02 I don't think we have to cover every possible option. All I intended was to create something that could do so, if we needed it to Sep 26 22:07:55 RP: sure Sep 26 22:08:12 RP: but why not giving wlan-ng-modules by default for cxx00? Sep 26 22:08:44 RP: whey have usb-host and distro has wifi so it can get usb-wlanng/usb-ralink/usb-zd1211 in rootfs by default Sep 26 22:08:45 hrw|work: Do people have cards that use that driver? Sep 26 22:09:02 RP: I was close to get one Sep 26 22:09:28 wlanng crap card is 50% of zd1211 or ralink one Sep 26 22:09:39 In general, people using usb-host will probably expect to install modules... Sep 26 22:10:22 RP: spitz ones has internal-cf-storage... Sep 26 22:10:54 hrw|work: Its tricky :) Sep 26 22:11:33 RP: .dev/task-base is same as poky one? Sep 26 22:12:23 hrw|work: near enough, yes Sep 26 22:12:27 k Sep 26 22:13:57 RP: http://pastebin.ca/183433 Sep 26 22:14:40 RP: if I will not be so tired like I was today after work I will work on it Sep 26 22:14:59 hrw|work: Looks good but what the spaces with append Sep 26 22:15:06 s/what/watch/ Sep 26 22:15:30 yep Sep 26 22:16:07 ~curse the god damn sky2 driver Sep 26 22:16:17 May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, the god damn sky2 driver ! Sep 26 22:18:08 hmm.. at work I have over 4k recipes.. Sep 26 22:18:11 have to update Sep 26 22:20:40 ok. time to sleep Sep 26 22:20:41 cu Sep 26 22:20:50 'night hrw|gone Sep 26 22:20:56 n8 hrw|gone Sep 26 22:21:08 n8 guys Sep 26 22:35:50 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r9d592baa... 10/ (14 files in 2 dirs): Sep 26 22:35:50 perl: Add some additional perl modules. This are the optional dependencies Sep 26 22:35:50 of libmodule-build, the new Build.PL based perl install system. Sep 26 22:37:22 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r0612bd80... 10/ (1 packages/perl/libio-zlib-perl_1.04.bb): Sep 26 22:37:22 perl: Add libio-zlib perl module which I forget to add in the previous Sep 26 22:37:22 commit. Sep 26 23:00:37 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1efdf395... 10/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Sep 26 23:00:37 perl: Add the libmodule-build perl module. This is required for anything Sep 26 23:00:37 using the new Build.PL build system, *expect* for libmodule-build itself Sep 26 23:00:37 which can bootstrap itself. Sep 26 23:07:47 * CosmicPenguin kicks his SDK build Sep 26 23:07:49 bah Sep 27 00:58:06 bye yall Sep 27 01:18:10 welll that seems to have done it Sep 27 01:21:51 since i'm forced to compile the 2.6.17 kernel when using the latest org.openembedded.oz354x, i ran into an issue, in arch/arm/mach-sa1100/collie.c "CONFIG_SHARP_LOCOMO" does not want to compile, it fails with stuff about uart turning this off and it compiles fine **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Sep 27 02:59:56 2006