**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 30 02:59:57 2006 Sep 30 09:17:02 morning all Sep 30 09:19:19 hey RP Sep 30 09:52:52 gosh jhbuild needs stamps Sep 30 10:02:58 03nail 07org.oe.dev * r2283d6d9... 10/ (1 packages/meta/slugos-native.bb): slugos-packages: Upgrade monotone to 0.27 in slugos feeds Sep 30 10:09:31 morning folks Sep 30 10:09:48 hey Sep 30 10:21:56 hi ..there are working apache .bb ? Sep 30 10:24:33 i'm afraid not. Sep 30 10:24:41 apache is a bitch when it comes to cross compiling Sep 30 10:24:50 could you work on it? Sep 30 10:24:58 so the only solution is to do a native compilaton? Sep 30 10:25:29 damn.. me? :) Sep 30 10:25:47 i just use OE for 3 days now.. Sep 30 10:26:20 mickeyl: not working? I've got 2.0.54 running on one of my slugs? Sep 30 10:26:38 wow Sep 30 10:26:42 i take it back, sorry Sep 30 10:26:46 not working was my last state Sep 30 10:26:49 (2 years ago) Sep 30 10:26:49 heh Sep 30 10:26:52 haha Sep 30 10:26:54 wow Sep 30 10:27:08 I'm not sure who got it working, but it's been working for some time Sep 30 10:27:23 IIRC, getting php as a loadable module is the hard bit. Sep 30 10:27:30 its definately a bitch when it comes to crosscompiling, thats certain Sep 30 10:27:33 * kergoth shudders at the memory Sep 30 10:27:41 hey kergie Sep 30 10:27:58 if you want to shudder at memory, then think about buildroot ;) Sep 30 10:28:58 so why bitbake don't want with a ERROR: Nothing provides dependency apache ? Sep 30 10:31:35 gumz: because it's not in your BBFILES (or something like that?) Sep 30 10:31:56 the .bb is in openembedded/packages/apache (oddly enough;) Sep 30 10:32:07 i see the 2.0.54 Sep 30 10:32:20 if i force it with -b it raise with this error : Sep 30 10:32:33 bb.parse.SkipPackage: Apache will only build nativly (TARGET_ARCH == BUILD_ARCH) Sep 30 10:33:52 ah... yes. Apparently apache was from our native feed *cough* Sep 30 10:33:59 so we cheated Sep 30 10:35:19 what i have to build to have gcc, g++ .... on my target hard ? Sep 30 10:36:13 the somewhat-equivalent of build-essentials is slugos-native Sep 30 10:36:27 i think to compile php with thttpd... Sep 30 10:37:08 its maybe interesting to have a bb file for php-thttpd, no ? Sep 30 10:44:54 ok .. so no ... :) Sep 30 10:57:43 * koen_ recommends to use cherokee Sep 30 11:03:38 koen: ? Sep 30 11:04:10 thttpd and boa suck Sep 30 11:04:15 as well as apache Sep 30 11:04:22 ah its a httpd? Sep 30 11:04:54 gumz: http://www.0x50.org/ Sep 30 11:05:20 FastCGI, SCGI, PHP, CGI, TLS and SSL encrypted connections, Virtual hosts, Authentication, on the fly encoding, Apache compatible log files, and much more. Sep 30 11:05:23 interesting :) Sep 30 11:05:52 And the lead developer is a nice guy :) Sep 30 11:05:59 hey pH5 Sep 30 11:06:07 hey koen Sep 30 11:06:45 re pH5 Sep 30 11:07:33 [02:17:19] * pH5_ (n=ph5@p5485DF7A.dip.t-dialin.net) Quit (Remote closed the connection) :'( Sep 30 11:08:50 As I use debian, I just had to try compiz. With EXA enabled that didn't really work. Sep 30 11:09:06 heh Sep 30 11:40:53 why does udev_092 build, not udev_100? Sep 30 11:41:13 I do not think I prefer 092? Sep 30 11:55:13 Crofton: PREFERRED_VERSION_dbus ?= "0.92" in angstrom-2007.1.conf Sep 30 11:55:49 hmm, not using angstrom ... Sep 30 11:56:03 but dbus controls udev? Sep 30 11:56:27 Crofton: Ii think it's the other way around ... Sep 30 11:56:44 I don't even build dbus Sep 30 11:58:29 I'm sorry, my comment was totally irrelevant. Sep 30 11:58:36 the reason is DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" in udev_100.bb Sep 30 11:58:43 ah Sep 30 11:58:46 thanks Sep 30 11:58:53 must.. wake.. up.. Sep 30 11:59:01 so udev_100 is set not to atuo build Sep 30 11:59:12 er auto Sep 30 12:02:40 there are a update for having a gcc not in debug mode on arm target ? Sep 30 12:08:19 what does that mean? Sep 30 12:10:45 zecke: -g3 :) Sep 30 12:11:42 gumz: don't install the -dbg packages Sep 30 12:11:48 03mickeyl 07org.oe.dev * r6fc8e3fb... 10/ (1 packages/libxml/libxml2_2.6.26.bb): libxml2 2.6.26 fix SRC_URI Sep 30 12:11:48 ALL HAIL objcopy Sep 30 12:12:34 i've juste bitbaked gcc ... and i have gcc in /usr/bin/.debug/... Sep 30 12:12:58 gumz: now you have a question I understand :) Sep 30 12:13:12 :) Sep 30 12:13:23 you mean my english sux ? :) Sep 30 12:13:30 gumz: feel free to fix the packaging of gcc. This can be done using the PACKAGES and FILES variables Sep 30 12:13:49 gumz: no your domain knowledge (OpenEmbedded) is just to be created Sep 30 12:14:22 ok Sep 30 12:16:54 I will catch some food now Sep 30 12:56:42 hmm Sep 30 12:56:53 xserver-kdrive no longer patches here Sep 30 12:57:20 the git version, that is Sep 30 12:57:27 although i didn't change SRCDATE Sep 30 12:57:34 (using 20060814) Sep 30 12:58:47 hmm oh Sep 30 12:58:56 the git fetcher no longer honors SRCDATE Sep 30 13:00:04 mickeyl: did it ever? i thought that there is no date information attached to git revisions at all? Sep 30 13:04:25 urghs Sep 30 13:04:33 you're kidding aren't you? Sep 30 13:04:51 that would be sucking Sep 30 13:05:05 svn also has no date concept, but can checkout a revision from a date Sep 30 13:23:50 --enable-embedded-mysqli : its really new for php5 ? Sep 30 13:26:31 forget it Sep 30 13:50:23 CROSS COMPILE Badness: /usr/include in INCLUDEPATH: /usr/include/mysql ? Sep 30 13:59:35 gumz: You don't need to pay me any money. Just say thank you :) Sep 30 14:00:51 thank you Sep 30 14:00:54 (? :p) Sep 30 14:02:11 gumz: some app is stupid enough to put -I/usr/include into the compile line Sep 30 14:02:22 gumz: this is a bug of the application, now you are free to fix the app Sep 30 14:05:18 i will try.... but ... that why i would like to have a gcc in the target... :( Sep 30 14:05:54 gumz: oh well, start with reading the story about the error you have seen Sep 30 14:06:03 gumz: it should be on the main site of www.openembedded.org Sep 30 14:06:56 morning all ! Sep 30 14:08:21 ok i see Sep 30 14:08:21 moien cyril Sep 30 14:08:55 gumz: and then you need to share some information. E.g. where you are building what Sep 30 14:38:31 mickey|sports: any specific reason for you to use kdrive git? Sep 30 16:58:44 njs: lol. You have worked on Berlin/Fresco? Sep 30 17:00:23 arg Sep 30 17:00:30 make don't exist !!!! lol Sep 30 17:16:28 btw, what happened w/Berlin? Haven't heard about it for a long time. Sep 30 17:18:57 psokolovsky_: it is called fresco Sep 30 17:19:12 psokolovsky_: and seems dead since 2003 Sep 30 17:21:42 zecke: that sucks ;-I. Many advanced GUI concept seems to have failed test of practicity. I used to be interested in constraint-based UI frameworks, like Garnet and Amulet, but long since understood they don't scale to real world conditions. KISS and pragmatism what's ruling here. Sep 30 17:52:43 any help out there? Sep 30 17:53:16 dunno, I'm inside Sep 30 17:56:31 depends what kind of help you need Sep 30 18:00:09 well, er, starting small, with a kernel compile...i.e. bitbake virtual/kernel...and..uh.. I fugured I would use the branch that would be easier for me...uh.. oz354x (!)... so anyway the message was repeated in the devel archives but I didn't the solution posted...er, um "--exclude-libtoolize" Do I need to use the regular dev branch? I wanted to test it out... Sep 30 18:02:56 it was saying something like: /stuff/tmp/staging/i586-linux/bin/autoreconf: unrecognized option `--exclude=libtoolize' Sep 30 18:03:22 well I am no help with that ... Sep 30 18:03:42 osborne: the autoconf/autoreconf bitbake builds is patched to gain that option Sep 30 18:03:50 it sounds like yours wasnt patched for some reason Sep 30 18:05:22 yeah, but I did go back to svn and get a new bitbake 'n all that monotone checkout/pull stuff Sep 30 18:06:14 I set everything for org.openembedded.oz354x Sep 30 18:07:04 do I need a different repo/server? for checkout/pull? bitbake? Sep 30 18:09:53 this is it: Sep 30 18:09:58 OE Build Configuration: Sep 30 18:10:06 BB_VERSION = "1.6.1" Sep 30 18:10:06 OE_REVISION = "8d41afc996184bb6f5a6b0e9d09307ffb1872001" Sep 30 18:10:06 TARGET_ARCH = "arm" Sep 30 18:10:06 TARGET_OS = "linux" Sep 30 18:10:06 MACHINE = "poodle" Sep 30 18:10:06 DISTRO = "openzaurus" Sep 30 18:10:06 DISTRO_VERSION = "3.5.4.1" Sep 30 18:10:06 TARGET_FPU = "soft" Sep 30 18:19:09 anyway I'll take another stab at it, maybe picking the regular '.dev' branch this time... Sep 30 18:56:17 OK, glibc-2.4 does not build even after cleaning out tmp. Sep 30 20:11:29 hi koen Sep 30 20:15:03 hey pgfeller Sep 30 20:16:08 koen: thanks again for the tip & help with the devshell ... the shell makes my life much easier :-) Sep 30 20:16:16 :) Sep 30 20:16:35 there as still some bugs in devshell, but I think the o-hand dudes have some patches for that Sep 30 20:17:52 so far it performed well - had to develop a feeling for the parameters to use (e.g. for ./configure) - but since then (& until now) it works fine ... Sep 30 20:18:36 I have another little question ot OE (if you don't mind) ... Sep 30 20:19:18 I use the local.conf in /tuff/build/conf (where I think it is supposed to be) Sep 30 20:19:51 to initialize my OE env I use a script, where I can choose the branch I do wana use (.dev, oz ) Sep 30 20:20:32 but one seems to use /stuff/tmp to work, one /stuff/ebuild/tmp ... - is that expected? Sep 30 20:21:28 ebuild sounds awfully gentooish Sep 30 20:21:51 I haven't tried mixing branches, since it involves changing BBFILES *and* BBPATH Sep 30 20:21:51 ups ... just build - was a typo (infact I run SuSE) Sep 30 20:22:21 yep - du use env. variables in local conf to distinguish Sep 30 20:22:30 ehm: do use Sep 30 20:22:43 I do use this: Sep 30 20:22:44 TMPDIR=/data/build/koen/OE/build/tmp/${DISTRO} Sep 30 20:22:59 that allows me to change DISTRO without having to wipe /tmp Sep 30 20:23:21 (in local.conf) Sep 30 20:23:23 TMPDIR - that's what I was looking for ... so I can define it similarly :-) Sep 30 20:23:33 perfect ... thanks. Sep 30 20:24:04 you can even put ${DISTRO_VERSION} in there to have seperate builds for different distro version Sep 30 20:24:06 s Sep 30 20:24:44 ... sounds like I'll need an additional HD soon ;) Sep 30 20:25:06 yeah, a distro build takes ~8GB Sep 30 20:25:26 bitbake world for ~8 machines -> ~20GB Sep 30 20:25:54 /dev/disk0s3 74G 74G 619M 99% / Sep 30 20:26:09 * koen ordered a new disk last week :) Sep 30 20:26:14 s/new/extra/ Sep 30 20:34:20 koen|away: is ewi down for good? Sep 30 20:40:55 njs, does mtn 0.30 rally need boost 1.33.1 over 1.32.0? Sep 30 22:24:35 hum ... libresolv.a does not contain __dn_skipname.... :( Sep 30 23:46:47 hello all Sep 30 23:47:29 zlib-native 1.2.3 from .dev. does not seem to stage the zlib.h file? Can anyone else confirm this? Oct 01 00:18:08 finally ... php + mysql + cherokee... :) Oct 01 00:23:38 building nano...first time...on slow setup...whew... Oct 01 00:27:09 didn't use '-b' ; it's building, building, building.... Oct 01 00:28:52 yes.. but when all working its beautifull :) Oct 01 00:30:26 very cool! and well thought out! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Oct 01 02:59:57 2006