**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 05 02:59:57 2006 Oct 05 06:17:13 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r9be6b44e... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Oct 05 06:17:13 clamav 0.84: Handle the /var directories correctly by making use of the Oct 05 06:17:13 volatiles system. Previously these packages were broken after a reboot if Oct 05 06:17:13 /var was on tmpfs due to missing directories and files. Note that the Oct 05 06:17:13 updated virus definitions are stored in /var so they will be lost after a Oct 05 06:17:13 reboot (but immediately re-downloaded) if using var on tmpfs. Oct 05 07:15:54 morning Oct 05 07:19:15 morning all Oct 05 07:21:50 morning Oct 05 07:37:28 morning all Oct 05 07:38:34 morning Oct 05 07:39:35 morning all Oct 05 07:40:24 hi XorA, do13_ Oct 05 07:40:31 hey Richard Oct 05 07:41:37 RP: on the way to berlin? Oct 05 07:41:55 do13_: Not yet - the flight isn't until this afternoon Oct 05 07:42:37 RP: have fun on OEDEM Oct 05 07:43:28 do13_: will try, thanks :) Oct 05 07:44:31 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * rf4ab4afc... 10/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Oct 05 07:44:31 clamav 0.84: Simplify the init scripts. assume that the volatiles Oct 05 07:44:31 processing takes care of the required directories and permissions in Oct 05 07:44:31 /var, don't try and create the home directories when adding the clamav user. Oct 05 07:44:41 RP: made sure your not using sony batteries :-) Oct 05 07:44:54 XorA: I did check ;-) Oct 05 07:45:20 I have a feeling in UK at moment that could lead to a spell on an island in an orange jump suit :-) Oct 05 07:46:26 I'm still not entirely sure what I'm allowed in hand luggage. Thankfully they've relaxed some of the restrictions Oct 05 07:50:15 good morning Oct 05 07:50:16 RP: I suspect like the whole sharp objects thing, they keep the rules vague so THEY can always justify an employee cockup Oct 05 07:50:40 XorA: yes :-/. Its mainly no liquids Oct 05 07:50:56 RP: Ever read about the gunpowder tea? Oct 05 07:51:57 morning all Oct 05 07:52:05 XorA: No. There are a lot of scary liquids around though... Oct 05 07:52:24 morning Oct 05 07:52:33 lo mickeyl Oct 05 07:52:40 XorA: no liquids includes no lipstick so that's my weekend ruined :) Oct 05 07:52:45 hey mickeyl Oct 05 07:53:07 RP: A guy tried to take gunpowder tea onto a plane (its a real type of tea BTW). They made him put it in a plastic bag and through away the "dangerous" cardboard box Oct 05 07:53:07 morning mick Oct 05 07:53:12 morning mickeyl Oct 05 07:53:30 RP: you can buy a new one in berlin :) Oct 05 07:54:03 no gothing for OEDEM :-) Oct 05 07:54:40 XorA: totally mad :-/ Oct 05 07:55:02 * XorA hates airport staff Oct 05 07:57:25 to what extend is OE/.dev's cramfs endianess aware? Oct 05 08:02:43 RP: any OH people going to linuxworld? Oct 05 08:04:12 XorA: At present, probably not but I don't know for certain Oct 05 08:04:31 RP: don't miss your flight :) Oct 05 08:04:46 RP: oh well, had hoped to at least bump into some of the secret CABAL :-) Oct 05 08:05:37 zecke: Its not for another 7 hours... Oct 05 08:05:46 * RP should really think about packing Oct 05 08:06:09 I have work to do before then as well Oct 05 08:06:21 hi do13 Oct 05 08:07:02 XorA: Rule No1: There is no CABAL ;-) Oct 05 08:08:06 I thought rule 1 was dont speak about CABAL Oct 05 08:08:14 but you can't speak about something that doesn't exist Oct 05 08:09:31 ~cabal Oct 05 08:09:32 There is no cabal Oct 05 08:09:43 ~botsnack ibot Oct 05 08:09:43 aw, gee, XorA Oct 05 08:15:21 * Varoudis Hello World! Oct 05 08:20:31 ~oedem Oct 05 08:24:06 ~RP Oct 05 08:35:01 03lenehan 07org.oe.dev * r1c0cf98b... 10/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Oct 05 08:35:01 clamav 0.88.4: The optional linksource field in the volatiles file is in Oct 05 08:35:01 fact mandatory, so add it back. I removed it after noticing other packges Oct 05 08:35:01 didn't specify it, so they'll also be broken. Oct 05 08:35:44 grr its cold today Oct 05 08:38:17 ibot: oedem is the OpenEmbedded Developers European Meeting (http://openembedded.org/oedem) Oct 05 08:38:18 mickeyl: okay Oct 05 08:47:18 03pH5 07org.oe.dev * r52d9f3c8... 10/ (6 files in 3 dirs): linux-libc-headers: add 2.6.19-rc1, there is a linux-kernel-headers tarball now Oct 05 08:52:47 mickeyl: :-D Oct 05 11:23:05 Its quiet in here today for some reason :) Oct 05 11:31:07 RP: quick hijack OE Oct 05 11:31:26 ~lart gcc for having different options to g++ than gcc Oct 05 11:31:26 * ibot whips out a sword and chops gcc in half for having different options to g++ than gcc Oct 05 11:34:31 XorA: I did that a while back and called it poky ;-) Oct 05 11:35:19 RP: :-D Oct 05 11:35:42 RP: have you seen this sort of stupidity? Oct 05 11:35:44 gtk-khtml.cc:1: warning: switch -mcpu=arm920t conflicts with -march= switch Oct 05 11:35:51 where -march=armv4t Oct 05 11:37:27 XorA: no, I've not come accross it. I stick to C trhough... Oct 05 11:38:08 RP: C++ should die Oct 05 11:38:39 XorA: :) Oct 05 11:39:18 * XorA has always hated that bastard language written by an idiot Oct 05 11:40:22 time for food Oct 05 11:49:08 hehe Oct 05 12:08:47 here's something interesting. build a new kernel, any additional files you may have put in a directory (say, drivers) disappears Oct 05 12:12:35 files =? Oct 05 12:12:57 bigd0g, you are trying to add files to the kernel build? Oct 05 12:13:10 yeah... i had an additionial text file in there... when i re-built, it just wiped it Oct 05 12:13:17 i figured it would've just left it alone Oct 05 12:13:30 you need to add it to the bb file Oct 05 12:13:38 and cp it into the buid tree Oct 05 12:13:40 Crofton: well, i modified gpio.c to meet my needs yesterday... the rebuild just hosed the file Oct 05 12:14:02 see how the defconfig file is handled Oct 05 12:15:49 i see the file, yes. how it's handled... no Oct 05 12:16:12 no? Oct 05 12:16:32 ...org.openembedded.dev/packages/linux/linux-omap1-2.6.x+git/defconfig Oct 05 12:16:34 right ? Oct 05 12:16:47 yeah, or maybe another kernel file Oct 05 12:17:02 in case that one does a make ...defconfig Oct 05 12:17:29 no, that one appears to be a legitimate defconfig Oct 05 12:18:01 i should've guessed it was going to overwrite anything in the directory Oct 05 12:18:04 :) Oct 05 12:18:05 yeah Oct 05 12:18:07 which begs this question... Oct 05 12:18:10 that is what clean does Oct 05 12:18:16 RP: did I once see someone say OH was working on iwmmx accelleration for Xfbdev? Oct 05 12:18:30 how can i modify one of the *.c files and make it compile when i try a re-build? Oct 05 12:18:51 i need to modify gpio.c (again), and then lcd_osk.cd and lcdc.c Oct 05 12:18:54 you could try typeing make and see if that works Oct 05 12:19:07 you may have to look carefully at the args Oct 05 12:19:27 unfortunatley most of the really smart guys are going to OEDEM this weekend Oct 05 12:19:39 Crofton: OI :-D Oct 05 12:19:55 and I am in in hotel room in Toronto Oct 05 12:19:55 oh, bother Oct 05 12:20:00 i don't know if i'll ever get this working Oct 05 12:20:01 and need to leave soon Oct 05 12:20:04 you will Oct 05 12:20:15 bigd0g: I did my first large bit of kernel work today and I learned quilt, it made it very easy to produce patches and integrate them in the .bb Oct 05 12:20:17 worst case just add them to the bb file Oct 05 12:20:31 and copy Oct 05 12:20:38 best case learn quilt :) Oct 05 12:20:54 good luck, I need to go meet a guy about cleaning out a condo .. Oct 05 12:20:58 ooh... needlework ;p Oct 05 12:21:07 ok. ttyl. gl & hf Oct 05 12:21:14 stitching together a working condo Oct 05 12:21:16 er kernel Oct 05 12:21:19 bigd0g: always good for relaxing Oct 05 12:21:22 l8r guys Oct 05 12:21:31 XorA: was there a quick reference you used? Oct 05 12:21:44 bigd0g: quilt help and man quilt Oct 05 12:21:58 XorA: ok, standard docs it is ;) Oct 05 12:22:31 ...although i supposed i need to install it first Oct 05 12:22:31 bah Oct 05 12:24:30 XorA: 'gquilt' or 'quilt' ? Oct 05 12:24:57 bigd0g: quilt Oct 05 12:25:06 cheers Oct 05 12:25:09 is gquilt a gui? Oct 05 12:25:32 yeah, i just looked it up. a PyGTK wrapper for 'quil't Oct 05 12:25:36 check out the designer: http://users.bigpond.net.au/Peter-Williams/PeterEdited.jpg Oct 05 12:25:38 * bigd0g shudders Oct 05 12:27:11 bigd0g: There are two methods I use to build without wiping out. First is "bitbake -b -f -c compile" to just force a configure (or "-c configure" to force a configure etc). Oct 05 12:28:21 v8jlene: will that generate whatever i'm configuring and put it in my 'deploy' directory? Oct 05 12:28:59 Second is to "bitbake devshell", the run "tmp/deply/addons/...devshell..." command, the cd into the directory and just run oe_runmake or oe_runconfigure etc. Oct 05 12:29:12 bigd0g: Well.. it depends Oct 05 12:29:46 depends on the build followed, i guess Oct 05 12:29:59 e.g. the bb file Oct 05 12:30:38 bigd0g: If you compile, install and then package it will. ie.. bitbake -b -f -c compile; bitbake -b -f -c install; bibake -b -f -c package Oct 05 12:31:01 bigd0g: It's basically manually running each of the stages OE normally does, so you can repeat various steps until you get it right... Oct 05 12:33:37 v8jlene: ok, i think it makes a bit more sense to me now Oct 05 12:33:43 i guess the only way to really know is to play with it Oct 05 12:34:42 bigd0g: Have a look here: http://www.openembedded.info/wiki/Bitbake_usage Oct 05 12:34:56 Hmm... I should update that... I know more now than when I wrote that originally ;) Oct 05 12:35:07 haha :) Oct 05 12:35:10 v8jlene: noted and bookmarked Oct 05 12:35:18 thanks Oct 05 12:36:01 bigd0g: I'm slowly adding all the stuff from that site to the user manual. (The bb recipe chapter just about done... it's taken forever...) Oct 05 12:36:24 v8jlene: wtf... where was this site when i needed it? it's got everything missing from the oe wiki Oct 05 12:36:45 oh, i see Oct 05 12:37:25 bigd0g: This site contained my notes from when I learnt OE. I've been moving it to the user manual (slowly!). Oct 05 12:37:26 i'll have a case study to submit at some point Oct 05 12:37:44 * XorA really needs a feed updater script Oct 05 12:38:08 * XorA wathces his cores max out Oct 05 12:38:28 * v8jlene wonders what a "feed update script" would actually do... Oct 05 12:38:56 haha. indeed. Oct 05 12:39:05 v8jlene: take ipk from tmp/deploy/ipk that are older than ones in /var/www/feed and update only those ones Oct 05 12:39:30 v8jlene: but not delete ones in /var/www/feed that are not in tmp/deploy/ipk Oct 05 12:40:51 XorA: Sound like a pretty simple job... Oct 05 12:41:03 v8jlene: yeah, I shall get round to it one day Oct 05 12:41:49 XorA: As I always say "I'll put it on my list"... pity the list is so damn long ;) Oct 05 12:50:32 gah, I remember the days I thought a 2x64bit cores would be fast enough Oct 05 13:06:21 looking through the tslib.bb file I have noticed that by default --disable-ucb1x00 is set.. if I'm using the ucb1x00 is it correct to assume I should enabled it, or is there a generic interface that is used making the device specific one relevant? Oct 05 13:08:44 well I guess doing a configure -h on tslib answered my question.. the --enable-input uses the generic kernel event interface. Oct 05 13:09:22 Gerrath: you also probably want to make sure you got tslib-2.6.conf Oct 05 13:09:38 Gerrath: which enables the right module for 2.6 Oct 05 13:10:44 ~lart irda Oct 05 13:10:44 * ibot hooks into a hydrant and hoses irda down Oct 05 13:11:12 XorA, thanks.. I just figured that out after looking at configure -h, I'm betting that is my issue. Oct 05 13:11:32 Gerrath: just been through that pain for smdk2440 Oct 05 13:11:45 Gerrath: no :) Oct 05 13:12:02 Gerrath: You need to differentiate between driver and external interface Oct 05 13:12:18 Gerrath: for tslib it does not care for the driver, it cares for the interface used Oct 05 13:15:51 zecke, I think that is what I'm doing.. I'm running a kernel mod that uses evdev to generate an event device for the ucb1x00 so I compile tslib with --enable-input which is the generic event interface. Then I set up the ts config file to tell tslib to use the input kernel module. Is that all correct? Oct 05 13:16:52 ahh, just tested it and it works! thanks everyone! Oct 05 13:23:52 Gerrath: congrats :) Oct 05 13:24:17 Gerrath: in the old and gray past of the 2.4er kernel. Each driver developer developed a custom interface to userspace Oct 05 13:24:35 Gerrath: this is why compaq ts, ucb1x0 and similiar interfaces exist Oct 05 13:31:10 zecke, makes sense, its always nice when the kernel gets a unified (generic) interface. Oct 05 13:34:29 zecke: Tomas is in Berlin now :) Oct 05 13:36:05 now I just need to figure out if gpm supports tslib, time to do some searching :-) Oct 05 13:39:05 Gerrath: Oct 05 13:39:11 http://lists.linux.it/pipermail/gpm/2005-December/000878.html Oct 05 13:40:33 XorA, yes I just found that patch too. I'm going to add it to OE, test it and if it works I'll post it to the bug tracker. Thanks for the info. Oct 05 13:42:35 Gerrath: cool, its a patch I long wanted to see, but I didnt realise someone had done it Oct 05 13:44:43 RP: he may come here :) Oct 05 13:46:33 zecke: Where is here? :) Oct 05 13:48:41 BMCO forum :) Oct 05 13:49:10 zecke: right :) Oct 05 13:51:13 ah my macbook is repaired :) Oct 05 13:51:40 zecke: What's the weather like over there? Oct 05 13:51:56 specifically - much chance of rain? Oct 05 13:52:14 if I set a variable like LIBV="blah" in a .bb, how do I get hold of that with python in do_split_packages? Oct 05 13:52:49 XorA: bb.data.getVar("LIBV", d, 1) Oct 05 13:55:21 RP: cheers, I must be being stupid in other areas then Oct 05 13:56:24 RP: it rained today, but now it is sunny :) Oct 05 13:56:52 RP: some rain but mostly sunny would be my guess Oct 05 14:02:42 RP: forecast claims it is windy and rainy on friday and saturday Oct 05 14:06:01 zecke: Hmm, ok thanks Oct 05 14:09:23 RP: decision about clothes? Oct 05 14:10:50 If I want to pass certain CFLAGS and LDFLAGS to a program (its configure script) when I'm building it with OE can I just do export EXTRA_CFLAGS = "mycflags" and export EXTRA_LDFLAGS = "myldflags" Oct 05 14:11:03 in its bb file? Oct 05 14:11:57 do13_: Just wondering. Most of mine aren't waterproof... Oct 05 14:11:59 Gerrath: use CFLAGS_append Oct 05 14:12:26 zecke, thanks, and I'm assuming use LDFLAGS_append as well? Oct 05 14:14:28 sure Oct 05 14:14:57 * zecke waits for hrw... Oct 05 14:24:33 * RP -> off to find a plane Oct 05 14:28:36 enjoy OEDEM Oct 05 14:29:29 RP: good luck! Oct 05 14:44:00 Hi, if compiling for different setups, what do I need to separate out into different tmp directories? a) MACHINE, b) DISTRO c) something else? Oct 05 14:45:12 Wow, just found out about OEDEM from ade|desk's post. Oct 05 14:45:18 Is it possible to join? Oct 05 14:45:28 I do not live too far away. Who is coming? Oct 05 14:49:06 Laibsch: machine can be dealt with by using multimachine conf, i'd seperate distros in to diff tmps personally Oct 05 14:49:47 Laibsch: I guess there is no harm in going Oct 05 14:49:53 Laibsch: you can always join for some drugs in the evening Oct 05 14:49:59 ;-) Oct 05 14:50:12 Well, I am seriously considering the drive now. Oct 05 14:50:24 Let's see what my girlfriend says. Oct 05 14:51:01 She usually is not much into surprises and spontaneous things. Oct 05 14:51:36 Just found http://www.openembedded.org/oedem which should have been linked from the top of OE.org Oct 05 14:51:51 The list of ppl is very impressive and I would really like to meet these guys. Oct 05 14:54:04 bloody hell my python coding is abysmal Oct 05 14:54:33 XorA: then don't use python Oct 05 14:54:40 morning all Oct 05 14:54:45 ade|desk: it seemed to be the easiest way Oct 05 14:54:50 XorA: good news, it works :) Oct 05 14:54:51 hey lrg Oct 05 14:54:59 lrg: good good Oct 05 14:55:16 XorA: i'll now try on MX21 Oct 05 14:58:24 I'm trying to build a glibc 2.4 version of openslug and have changed the conf file to reflect the change. However even after blowing away the tmp directory, it still wants to build 2.3cvs20050627. How can I best figure out why it isn't picking up the change? Oct 05 15:00:07 joshin: run through your conf files and see what you link in, i guess the distro may set the preferred glibc later on Oct 05 15:00:19 zecke: Ah, I just realized you also replied (I thought it was ade|desk) Are you already in Berlin? Oct 05 15:00:41 * Laibsch reading through the list of topics to be discussed to decide which day to go. Oct 05 15:01:33 ade|desk, I've modified all the conf files. Done searches on them, the includes, the machines. Used a find -exec grep to hunt down stragglers in the directory. My desk is dented from banging my head on it. :) Oct 05 15:02:03 joshin: its got be there somewhere ;) Oct 05 15:02:56 Laibsch: looks like friday is more OE dev based, saturday is more OE organisation. Oct 05 15:03:26 Yes, sounds like tomorrow would be more fun. Oct 05 15:03:49 Unfortunately, tomorrow might be problematic. I'd have to cancel some appointments. Oct 05 15:04:16 never cancel, just postpone Oct 05 15:04:45 nonetheless a problem. Oct 05 15:05:19 I can go. But my GF can't leave before 14 o'clock. Oct 05 15:08:19 random question: how can i open a file surrounded by #'s ... i.e. #lcd_osk.c# ? Oct 05 15:09:13 i tried to open it in emacs... but it doesn't appear to load anything. just stays at the root emacs screen with logo Oct 05 15:10:01 escape the # Oct 05 15:10:14 oh. good point. Oct 05 15:10:22 isnt #xxx# the emacs tmp file? Oct 05 15:10:24 vi \#lcd_osk.c\# perhaps Oct 05 15:10:55 that works, thanks. hrm. now to see if anything's different in it Oct 05 15:11:06 XorA: you might be right Oct 05 15:11:29 * bigd0g runs 'diff' Oct 05 15:12:22 yeah, appears just to be a temp file Oct 05 15:12:30 I'm trying to get slugos to build using glibc-2.4, but simply replacing the PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc in the config file doesn't cut it. It complains that the preferred version isn't available and proceeds to build 2.3+cvsdate. Anyone got a clue? Oct 05 15:12:32 all entries match but one... and it's wrong ;) Oct 05 15:12:57 NAiL: dont forget -initial and -anotheronew Oct 05 15:14:07 -intermediate Oct 05 15:14:16 * XorA is starting to suffer brain melt Oct 05 15:14:57 XorA: ok, but aren't those dependencies of 2.4? Oct 05 15:15:26 NAiL: not as versions ones I dont think Oct 05 15:17:31 I have PVm PV-initialand PV-intermediate all set to 2.4 with the same behavior as NAiL. Oct 05 15:17:56 zecke: Can you give me your mobile number just in case I need to contact you? Will Saturday also be at the bmcoforum? Oct 05 15:18:31 joshin: I think I've got it, checking now :) Oct 05 15:21:28 but, intermediate failed earlier, so there might be some work left there Oct 05 15:23:45 heh Oct 05 15:24:00 I tried bb -n glibc... that gave me... A traceback :-\ Oct 05 15:25:27 NAiL, I'm doing a build from scratch. I didn't specify glibc-initial (but did the other 2) so maybe that will take. Oct 05 15:30:12 a+ Oct 05 15:33:42 NAiL, what did you try? Still getting "NOTE: preferred version 2.4 of glibc not available" Oct 05 15:34:09 joshin: i still get that yet it builds 2.4 for me anyway Oct 05 15:34:23 NOTE: package glibc-2.4-r10: task do_populate_staging: started Oct 05 15:34:23 Laibsch: +491621303176 but we will be in irc most likely Oct 05 15:35:05 well, if I am on the road, I will not have irc (never had it on the Z either but my Z broke recently :-( ) Oct 05 15:35:19 zecke: Thanks for the number. Oct 05 15:35:25 ade|desk, Odd. I get "NOTE: package glibc-2.3.5+cvs20050627: started" after the package unavailable message Oct 05 15:41:18 are 'dbgenter' and 'dbgleave' sounding familiar to anyone? like common debug routine or anything? Oct 05 15:42:01 i see them scattered about this driver file, but haven't been able to turn up an explanation Oct 05 15:43:17 sounds like debug enter/leave points to me Oct 05 15:43:27 ok, so i'm not going crazy Oct 05 15:43:31 thanks Oct 05 17:08:04 crofton's not around... but the compile a la 'make' for the kernel works Oct 05 17:08:16 just have to add my oe cross compile toolchain to me path Oct 05 17:08:23 progress. heh Oct 05 17:09:30 RP: ping? Oct 05 17:09:57 RP: Do you have any idea how to get SlugOS to use glibc 2.4? Oct 05 17:27:35 NAiL: couldn't you just download it and compile it manually, sticking it in the proper spot? Oct 05 17:28:22 and by compile... i mean download + uncompress to the location. bitbake should call your cross compile toolchain to do the compile Oct 05 17:28:23 bigd0g: no Oct 05 17:28:56 I'm trying to change the distro to use glibc 2.4 instead of 2.3+somecvsdate. Which is proving to be a big pain. Oct 05 17:29:49 wish i knew more to help. sorry Oct 05 17:29:55 it's this "provides" and "virtual" stuff that confuses me. Oct 05 17:30:13 oh? Oct 05 17:30:51 just setting PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc=2.4 doesn't help. It still builds 2.3+something. Oct 05 17:31:47 that syntax looks off... Oct 05 17:32:12 if i was going to set a preferred version for gcc, i would do 'preferred-gcc-version' Oct 05 17:32:24 it would make sense, then... that it should be 'preferred-glibc-version' Oct 05 17:32:31 but i could be wrong. i really don't know Oct 05 17:33:49 it used to be just PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc=2.3+somedate Oct 05 17:34:34 hrm. than it wouldn't make sense to switch it around. maybe '2.4' isn't enough Oct 05 17:34:51 not sure how you could be "more specific", though Oct 05 17:35:09 looking at other distros gives me the same Oct 05 17:35:10 eg Oct 05 17:35:11 angstrom-2007.1.conf:PREFERRED_VERSION_glibc ?= "2.4" Oct 05 17:35:52 hrm. that's odd. should mean yours would work. did you try a clean before re-building? Oct 05 17:36:37 i wonder if it's caching something somewhere on you Oct 05 17:37:46 yeah, cleaned out everything Oct 05 17:38:38 NAiL: i've seen that before, where it says 2.4 isnt available, despite it being right there in packages... just for the hell of it, try removing the DEFAULT_PREFERENCE from the 2.4 .bb Oct 05 17:38:56 kergoth: I did. Oct 05 17:39:11 I even added DEFAULT_PREFERENCE = "-1" to the 2.3+somedate .bb Oct 05 17:39:13 ah. well that was my only idea then Oct 05 17:39:15 :P Oct 05 17:39:25 that just made it build the version *before* 2.3+somedate :-\ Oct 05 17:39:47 so then you need +1 ! ... hehe ... j/k Oct 05 17:55:57 aww. kernel build failed. Oct 05 17:56:05 discouraging... Oct 05 17:56:11 more work tomorrow, i guess. Oct 05 17:56:12 later. Oct 05 19:00:36 does anyone know if a PXA270 can drive a VGA display at 16bpp without flicker? Oct 05 19:00:45 I recall w/ the PXA255 it was iffy ... Oct 05 19:07:29 cbrake vga = 640x480 should do ... and if i remember cottect zauri with pxa270 don't have a graphic co-processor ... Oct 05 19:08:59 gremlin[it]: thanks for the datapoint Oct 05 19:09:52 u'r wellcome Oct 05 19:10:21 gremlin[it]: I've been through the flickering screen issue a few too many times with the 255 and don't want to get bit by it again. Oct 05 19:11:13 i know ... i play with pxa255 too Oct 05 19:20:43 CosmicPenguin, do you u still work with any mips alchemy ? Oct 05 19:26:14 no Oct 05 19:27:52 rob_w: AMD sold Alchemy nearly 6 months ago, and I haven't touched it sense Oct 05 19:27:53 since Oct 05 19:54:26 hi Oct 05 20:31:14 CosmicPenguin, ok thanks anyway Oct 05 22:25:35 * v8jlene is back Oct 06 01:13:24 * v8jlene is away (lunch) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 06 02:59:57 2006